The 2004 Ziegen Light Texas 10 Charity Tour is on the way.

Please post all ZT10 info on this thread as the old one takes forever.

I still owe myself a couple of hours sleep so back soon with scores, stats etc from the weekend.

Thanks
Chris

Pro scores please

man, cant wait to taste that.....

I'll be back for 2k4.....

Thanks for everything you do for Discgolf in TEXAS, Chris!!!!

ZIEGY!ZIEGY!ZIEGY!ZIEGY!ZIEGY!ZIEGY!ZIEGY!ZIEGY!ZI EGY!ZIEGY!

All the scores have just been sent to Gary to prepare to post. Now we just have to work out how to post tables on the new board. Please be patient.

I forgot to mention the awesome finish by Donald Ellsworth last night. Last hole in the lead group Donald steps up and hits a 2 skip ACE on hole 18 to finish 1st in the bonus money. The gallery went wild. Barry must have having flash backs.

More soon.

Chris

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Hey Chris how do we go about trying to get a copy of our $ 10000 ace run?? I would LOVE to see mine. about a foot left and it would have been nothing but chains. Hit the Rocks behind the basket and fell with in about 6 inches of the pole. :D

Nice Shooting SeeHorse, shame you missed another ZT10 CHA-CHING!!!

thanks sure wished I could have played as well Sun afternoon as I did Sun morning :confused:

2003 ZT10 Pro Finals
Nov 16, 2003

Lewisville

Open Pro
Finish Name Bonus LL Woods Lake Total Payout Bonus Total
1 Barry Shultz No 44 43 87 $1,100.00 $1,100.00
T2 Eric Mccabe No 45 47 92 $560.00 $560.00
T2 Judah Moser No 44 48 92 $560.00 $560.00
T4 Pat Cantrell No 50 43 93 $325.00 $325.00
T4 Donald Ellsworth Yes 45 48 93 $325.00 $302.00 $627.00
T6 Joe Torres Yes 50 44 94 $240.00 $135.00 $375.00
T6 James McCaine Yes 47 47 94 $240.00 $135.00 $375.00
T6 Dagon Owen Yes 47 47 94 $240.00 $135.00 $375.00
T9 Ron Russell No 47 48 95 $180.00 $180.00
T9 Daniel Stacey No 47 48 95 $180.00 $180.00
T9 JD Ramirez No 47 48 95 $180.00 $180.00
12 Jay Reading Yes 48 48 96 $150.00 $55.00 $205.00
T13 Benjamin Poole Yes 53 44 97 $120.00 $55.00 $175.00
T13 Kevin Mccoy No 52 45 97 $120.00 $120.00
T13 John Maiuro Yes 48 49 97 $120.00 $55.00 $175.00
T13 Justin Landers Yes 48 49 97 $120.00 $55.00 $175.00
17 Justin Kerr No 49 49 98
T18 Vinnie Miller Yes 49 50 99 $21.00 $21.00
T18 Chris Ware Yes 47 52 99 $21.00 $21.00
T20 Scott Cook Yes 54 46 100
T20 Dave Hemmeline No 52 48 100
T20 Mike Sayre Yes 50 50 100
T20 Clayton Bethmann Yes 49 51 100
T24 Robert Knight No 54 47 101
T24 Zach Williamson Yes 52 49 101
T24 Danny Reeves No 52 49 101
T24 Michael Olse Yes 51 50 101
T24 Nolan Grider Yes 50 51 101
T29 Steven Lawty Yes 53 49 102
T29 Pete Lopez Yes 50 52 102
31 Alan Kubala Yes 50 53 103
T32 Cris Hicks Yes 57 47 104
T32 Scott Nelson No 51 53 104
T34 Paul Kreke No 53 52 105
T34 Charles Cox No 53 52 105
36 Chris Pepperling Yes 56 50 106
37 Paul Testa No 58 49 107
38 Brad Bishop No 55 55 110
39 Doug Hubbard Yes 56 56 112
T40 Brian Lindstrom Yes 58 56 114
T40 Rene Torres Yes 57 57 114
T40 Kyle Grundmann No 55 59 114
43 David Tremonti No 59 56 115
44 Dan McGough No 58 59 117
45 Anthony Martinez No 60 59 119
46 Doug Garner No 68 59 127
47 Tor Harper No 72 59 131

Pro Masters
Finish Name Bonus Lake LL Woods Total Payout Bonus Total
1 Mitch McClellan No 45 49 94 $700.00 $700.00
2 Randy Greywoolf Yes 47 50 97 $475.00 $161.00 $636.00
T3 Mike Kennedy No 51 47 98 $238.00 $238.00
T3 Glenn Hale Yes 49 49 98 $238.00 $79.00 $317.00
T3 Joel Kelly Yes 49 49 98 $238.00 $79.00 $317.00
T6 Kevin Agpalo Yes 47 52 99 $145.00 $40.00 $185.00
T6 Joe Sofinowski Yes 46 53 99 $145.00 $40.00 $185.00
8 Alex Hughes Yes 49 51 100 $120.00 $31.00 $151.00
T9 Marcus Roberts No 51 50 101 $105.00 $105.00
T9 Jerry Crumpton Yes 48 53 101 $105.00 $27.00 $132.00
11 John Luecke Yes 50 52 102 $90.00 $90.00
T12 Dale Hemmeline No 52 51 103
T12 Mark Martin No 51 52 103 $40.00 $40.00
T12 Jay Bitner Yes 50 53 103 $40.00 $40.00
T15 Ron Klein No 53 51 104
T15 Jerry Perez Sr Yes 51 53 104
17 Mark Smith Yes 56 49 105
18 Danny Waldron No 51 55 106
19 Tom Peirce Yes 56 51 107
T20 Bill Burns No 55 53 108
T20 Pat Kinghorn Yes 53 55 108
T22 Mark Thomas No 53 56 109
T22 Kirk Lavallee Yes 51 58 109
24 Larry Owen No 55 55 110
25 David Vaughan Yes 51 60 111
T26 Corky Dunn No 57 56 113
T26 Steve Dufrane No 53 60 113
T28 Dirk Snow No 58 56 114
T28 W. Kyle Power No 53 61 114
T30 Tom Prusaitis Yes 57 58 115
T30 Kenny Tuck Yes 53 62 115
32 Lloyd Sitkoff Yes 58 60 118
33 Pat Brenner No 57 63 120

Pro Grand Masters
Finish Name Bonus LL Woods Lake Total Payout Bonus Total
1 Joe Martin Yes 52 51 103 $305.00 $108.00 $413.00
2 Willy Castaneda Yes 51 56 107 $200.00 $62.00 $262.00
3 Glenn Schleicher Yes 56 57 113 $125.00 $43.00 $168.00
T4 Tom McCutcheon Yes 58 56 114 $40.00 $17.00 $57.00
T4 Ed Morgan Yes 57 57 114 $40.00 $17.00 $57.00
6 Don McGregor No 59 56 115
7 Ken Cantrell Yes 63 59 122

Pro Women
Finish Name Bonus LL Woods Lake Total Payout Bonus Total
1 Des Reading Yes 53 51 104 $315.00 $85.00 $400.00
2 Jennifer Allen No 54 58 112 $190.00 $190.00
3 Amy Perdreauville Yes 61 60 121 $125.00 $50.00 $175.00
4 Melinda Ring Yes 60 64 124 $25.00
5 Barb Paske No 63 64 127
6 Suzi Johnston No 67 63 130

My-hero enjoyed playing the last round with ya. wished I had my game with me. also Thanks again for pint glass.. :D

Now Himing how do we get a copy of our $10,000 ace RUN??

I think it'd be great to watch everyone's but mine. :(
I watched Kirk Lavallee, Eric McCabe and Cris Hicks all make great runs at it. I'm sure there were quite a few more.

Me and Pepper took great advantage of the free Zigenbock at Sneaky Pete's last night. I won't say how many I had but it was more than 9. :D

It was a great year. Thanks, Chris, for all you've done!
I'm sure 2004 will be even better, but even with more bonus, I don't see how it can top 2003 for Don and me! :D

Here is a sample of some photos that are now online. All the photos from Sunday should be up soon. I look forward to the Hooters ones :cool:

http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?eventorder?photo=04Q9000F000212&amp;start=0&amp;a lbum=0&amp;adjust=-1
Photo Caption:
"Hi I'm Charles Cox, and I am King of the World!"

Check this out. Does anyone have an email for Ken, Pat or Steph Cantrell.

http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?eventorder?photo=04Q9000F000123&amp;start=0&amp;a lbum=0&amp;adjust=-1

Does anyone have a contact email for Scott Nelson In Lewisville. I think he would like this photo.
http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?eventorder?photo=04Q9000F000112&amp;start=0&amp;a lbum=0&amp;adjust=-1

When I get back home at the end of the week I will look at the Hole in One tapes and see what is good. I will then see how to tranfer them to a form to put the good ones online. Seewhere I may need your help.

I hope the Sunday photos will be online tomorrow.

Thanks
Chris

Any chance on putting all of them into a DVD format?..with 250 or so players that might be quite the 30min or so DVD.

:eek:

Proof that John Welch was violating park rules. (http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?eventorder?photo=04Q9000F000210&amp;start=0&amp;a lbum=0&amp;adjust=-1)

:)

Been looking at all of the photos and they're excellent. No e-mail for the Cantrell's but you can send it to me.

The best thing I will take from this weekend was getting the plessure to see not 1 but 2 people blowing chow at headquarters....The most amazing thing about it is, that it wasn't drunken disc golfers.

You have seen the "Wingman" coors light commericals aye? Buy the "other" girl a beer while your buddy is playing tonsil hockey with the brunken bar-maid?
Well what do you call the girl the holds the other girls hair while Spewing Chew, ensuring that no chunks get in the puker girls hair? I call it the HOOTERS GIRL not liking the taste of my special sauce. Now that would be a good commercial

Sorry for getting off the subject. GREAT EVENT I'll be at many more next year.




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Did Red Bull ever show up this weekend? I didn't see any cans on Saturday.

They turned up just after lunch on Saturday for about 2 hours. On Sunday I had a couple of hundred cans in my coolers they left me. Something happenned to their staff car on Sunday and they couldn't show. Next time I will have them stay all day.

The Hooters Girls did show however :)

Another great year! We had a great time. It was nice to see everyone. Thanks to Chris and all the staff for all the hard work. :)

Need help, after a few too many Ziggy's Mr. Pepperling left his bag in the back of Doug Hubbard's truck. If anyone knows how to get ahold of him please let me know so I can get BONEHEAD his bag back .

Pepper!!!!! You idiot! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You better get that back before this weekend.

None of the Cantrells have e-mail, but I have purchased the photo for them. (Please don't tell them. I'll give them as a suprise.) I saw the first post with the link to the photos prior to seeing the second post asking for the e-mail address.

they are already on ebay jason :D

LOL....thats evil Frankie.....

Though, not suprising, coming form you.....

Just talked to Donald who will call Doug and let him know to get a hold of Pepper!! That Pepper is such an idiot /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Hell the way he shot he should just start over with a new bag and get some plastic from BAGGER Reeves! what a pay day for that AM on Sat. :D

Yeah and I'm already bidding on his CE ROCS :D

Thanks. I would have had a nice payday on Sunday if that F'ing basket could have held my putt and not spit it OB!!!!

.....but Danny, you played sooooo well!! ;) (inside joke people!)

Geez, I hate that!

Hey Himing can we get player ratings for those round?? where is Rodney when you need him..


RODNEY!!

Chris disregard rating question I contacted Rodney.

When are the Sunday photos going to be on the picture website?

And what was Rodney's reply? Did he get the ratings sorted out?...

Sunday's photos are now online. I know which ones are my favorites :cool:

You can order any prints of these photos in any size direct from Richards website. If we get plenty of orders we may convince him to cover more of our events.

www.mcmakinphoto.com (http://www.mcmakinphoto.com) Just click on "Find Photos" then on the right you will see the listing for the ZT10 photos.

Enjoy.

Rodney said he will get me some ratings today. so I will post them later. Chris let me know about the ace runs??

When Rodney (Hi Erin) does them does it make a difference that the holes changed from the last event there? The Am's played long wiht no OB while the Pro's played no and all OB. Also Holes 5 and 9 at the Lake are now long. Or is it just a comparisom between the players at that event?

Thanks
Chris

not sure. probably will just be ratings for this event againist others.

The Fort Worth Star Telegram has a story about Nolan and the ZT10 tour. Check it out.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/7298825.htm

Thanks Rodney:


I used only Open Pro from
this event. Therefore, no other events matter.

The SSAs are only (semi-)valid for any divisions that played the same layout as Open Pro in this event.

My stats aren't quite up to date, but these are probably reasonable approximations:

Round 1 = 47.4
Round 2 = 46.5

Event Ratings
Barry Shultz 1040
Eric Mccabe 1011
Judah Moser 1011
Pat Cantrell 1005
Donald Ellsworth 1005
Joe Torres 999
James McCaine 999
Dagon Owen 999
Ron Russell 993
Daniel Stacey 993
JD Ramirez 993
Jay Reading 987
Benjamin Poole 982
Kevin Mccoy 982
John Maiuro 982
Justin Landers 982
Justin Kerr 976
Vinnie Miller 970
Chris Ware 970
Scott Cook 964
Dave Hemmeline 964
Mike Sayre 964
Clayton Bethmann 964
Robert Knight 958
Zach Williamson 958
Danny Reeves 958
Michael Olse 958
Nolan Grider 958
Steven Lawty 952
Pete Lopez 952
Alan Kubala 946
Cris Hicks 940
Scott Nelson 940
Paul Kreke 935
Charles Cox 935
Chris Pepperling 929
Paul Testa 923
Brad Bishop 905
Doug Hubbard 893
Brian Lindstrom 882
Rene Torres 882
Kyle Grundmann 882
David Tremonti 876
Dan McGough 864
Anthony Martinez 852
Doug Garner 805
Tor Harper 782

Those are some great photos. Fascinating that my favorites are of Pros on Am day and of Ams on Pro day.

Chris, I assume you got the pic of Ken and Grandson. If you didn't I will. (almost did already)

AHHH - Chris takes time to pose with the Hooters Girls...I am sure that was tought work :o

What a great tourney and it just keeps getting better. Photos, results, and hopefully a VHS or DVD copy of all the $10,000 ACE RUNS??????????????

Chris, thanks for the link. "disc golf phenom"-----I love it. Congrats Nolan.

I am still in Lewisville. The plan is to head south early Thursday. So if anyone is trying to get hold of me please be patient.

Gary and I have been numbers crunching the approx $20,000 player bonus. We are hoping that ALL Amateurs that play 4 events get at least something in the payout. Just something to think about.

I will look at the video soon and see if it's good enough to put on to a DVD.

My next job is to put together a photo essay for sponsors to say thank you for this year then for new ones next year. I met with Budweiser for an hour yesterday and shared a few new ideas.

For the last month I have said I will always be able to sleep in December. Right now I hope that is true. Still lots to do.

Thanks
Chris

seewhere u have mail.

Chris,
I'm not sure if you saw my post on the old forum, but can you share with us any info you have on next year's event locations? If you want it to be a big secret, then I guess that's okay. Thanks again for a great tourney.

THANKS AGAIN TO Rodney.. This might be a little off but should be somewhat close.

AM Ratings for Sat.
Rough numbers based on the Advanced field:
Round 1 = 47.9
Round 2 = 46.7

Event ratings
Coda Hatfield 986
Anthony Newberry 980
Danny Reeves 974
Rob Canadian 957
Jeff Ohnesorge 957
Ed Coffey 951
Kyle Wilkes 946
David Rose 946
Justin Kerr 946
Greg Gifford 940
Dave Hickok 940
David Marsheck 940
Wayne Atkinson 934
Paul Testa 934
Mitch Justice 934
Billy Nelson 934
Clayton Brumit 928
Colin Evans 928
Dave Hemmeline 928
Cruz Rangel 922
Corky Dunn 922
Steve King 922
Scott Carter 922
Stephen Brower 917
Dave Emrick 917
Mark Vargas 911
Shawn Low 905
Troy Soules 905
Blake Nicholson 905
Benjamin Powell 905
Matt Farrar 899
Carl Butts 899
Nathan Bitner 894
David Nicholson 894
Gabe Miles 894
Mike Fuller 888
Martin Tasker 888
Blair Nicholson 888
Kyle Grundmann 882
Jason Baker 876

Can Tony Bender, Brad Bishop and Kevin Weimann please contact me asap. I can't find your emails.

Thanks
Chris

[email protected]
512-289-2299

hey chris.......
congrats on a great year and it sounds like next year will be even more spectacular!!!
i might have to make it out there for a visit :D

also thanks for MAILING my discs :mad:as i'll get to see them sometime in december....i guess putting it down abot 5 times and letting you know by phone to please send them ups and i would pay the difference didn't matter.....
i'll remember that when you have something else you want to sell me :D

keep in touch with the details for next year please....keith

Your discs shipped Priority Mail over 1 1/2 weeks ago. All the Texan buyers have theirs. I even sent set #6 as requested. I can't help it if your American postal system [*****]. If it was not for Lance being sponsored by them I would really have a problem :)

Thanks for the good words about the tour. Yes next year will be huge. The estimated $20,000 bonus along with a few other things I have planned could make for a fun year.

The 24 Hour Marathon is still moving along. That little event last week slowed me down a little :)

Talk to you soon.

Chris

you misunderstood my friend.....i got the little pink slip days ago........problem is that i can't get to the post office except on saturdays when i'm in town(which isn't many)as they are not open past the time i get out of work....and they are only open saturdays from 8:30-11:30 which conflicts with my leagues when i am in town....ups driver drops the box off right at my door step and puts it in the car in the driveway on days it is raining...which is why i asked VERY NICELY to please have it sent by lance's competitors...(don't i give the man enough money during the year that i can get ONE package by ups :D)
talk to you later and thanks again....keith

The 2003 ZiegenBock Texas 10 Charity Tour finished out the season last week in beautiful sunshine and clear skies. What a year we have had. It�s been a long, yet rewarding year for everyone concerned. Next year I promise to raise the bar even more, and continue to bring disc golf to the minds of businesses all across Texas. Most of you already know a few of the things in store for next year. Here�s one to think about for a few minutes�$10,000 added to the Players Tour Bonus.

Our wonderful relationship with the Lance Armstrong Foundation (LAF) will continue in 2004. Please support Texas 10 and help us in our goal of donating over $25,000 next year alone. More news on the LAF, and how we plan on gaining national exposure very soon.

In a tour such as this, many people, cities, and businesses are involved. There are way too many names to thank, but I would like to name a few that have always believed in my dream of bringing Texas 10 to corporate America and building a solid foundation to increase exposure for our sport. To all the wonderful people I have not named, thank you.

Mr. Don Fischer � General Manager of the local Anheuser-Busch distributor. You believed in us and helped us proceed in the right direction. Thank you for your efforts in securing national sponsorship support from Anheuser-Busch. That support will always be appreciated.

The City of Lewisville � have provided wonderful support and encouragement for our tour. Not only are the courses always maintained, mowed and cleaned, but also the belief they have in how disc golf in Lewisville helps the community. I look forward to many more years of bigger and bigger events in Lewisville.

USAutomatic and Tom McCutcheon � as I have said many times before, Tom has and continues to be my mentor, business partner, and my friend. Your experience and guidance has been invaluable from the very start, thank you.

Innova-Champion Discs � thank you for continuing to supply the best discs on the market.

My staff and volunteers through out the year have been awesome. Thank you to everyone that has lent a hand, large or small. Not only do I appreciate you, but also disc golfers all across Texas appreciate you.

I am very proud to announce again that next year we will be called�

�Ziegen Light Texas 10 Charity Tour�

A new beer for a new year, stop in at your local beer store and try the new Ziegen Light before our tour starts next year. Both Ziegen Light and ZiegenBock will be available at each of our ten events next year.

Here is my other announcement I made over the weekend�

$10,000 will be added to the Players Tour Bonus in 2004

That�s right, $10,000 will be added. This money is on top of all other player bonuses, sponsorships, entry money, raffles etc. In 2004 I hope that you the players will share in over $20,000 just in the tour bonus alone. Before the first entry is taken next year we start off with $10,000.

Congratulations to Nolan Grider in his efforts to make history this year. He fell a little short in the end and did not win the $10,000 Pro Bonus but gave it a great run. You will have plenty more chances in the years to come Nolan, I promise you.

The USAutomatic $10,000 Hole in One was given a shake but it did not fall. A couple of people hit the basket and several buzzed the chains but nothing fell. There is always next year. Someone soon will win at least a $10,000 hole in one at a Texas 10.

During the finals weekend in Lewisville we had Richard McMakin who is a professional photographer walking the courses. Please check out the following link to see hundreds of great photos from the weekend. You can purchase any of these direct from Richard on his website. www.mcmakinphoto.com (http://www.mcmakinphoto.com)

You may even see photos of Donald Ellsworth�s double skip ace on the final hole on Sunday. In the lead group joined by World and US Champ Barry Shultz, on his last shot of the event, in front of the large gallery Donald skip one in to secure 4th in the event and 1st in the tour bonus. Great shot mate.

Thanks to Barry Shultz, Ron Russell, Kevin McCoy, Eric McCabe and all the other touring players that came to town to play. I trust you all had a great time and will be back soon.

Here are a few statistics about the final event.

250 Players
$22,703 Payout (cash and merchandise only)
143 of the 250 players were qualified for the tour bonus

There are still some collector�s sets left for sale. Go to www.discgolftourist.com (http://www.discgolftourist.com) to order yours today. Only 50 of these 2 disc sets will ever be made.

Next years first event kicks off back in Lewisville on February 28th, 2004. All the information you will need will be announced very soon.

Thanks again for a great year. 2004 promises to be even bigger and better for everyone. Happy Holiday�s and I look forward to seeing you all on the course again very soon.

Yours in Flight,

Chris Himing � Tournament Director
Ziegen Light Texas 10 Charity Tour
www.texas10tour.com (http://www.texas10tour.com)

It's that time of year to have some fun and win some prizes.

I am very close to completing the 2004 schedule. Who would like to guess where the 2004 locations will be?

The 1st person to correctly guess the 10 event locations for 2004 will win an Innova Tour Bag worth $65.

I will do not expect the dates to be complete for the next few weeks but the locations should be. To the handful of people and friends that have been let into the secret locations sorry please don't post. I will buy you all a beer next time I see you. :cool:

10 Events, One Charity, 1000's of Disc Golfers
Helping Lance in the fight against cancer.

I've got a couple of guesses. Am I eligible?

oh wait...an INNOVA tour bag?


nevermind. :)

Lewisville, Live Oak, Waco, Round Rock, Dallas, Lubbock, Stephenville, Houston, Arlington?

Lewisville, Live Oak, Houston, Waco, Arlington, Victoria, Round Rock, Lubbock, Dallas, Lewisville

Lewisville, Live Oak, Waco, Round Rock, Dallas, Lubbock, Houston, Arlington, Lago Vista

oh yeah, and Lewisville again for the final.

Lewisville, Houston, Dallas, Waco, Moody's (come on, baby!!), Round Rock, Wimberley (wouldnt that be awesome!!) Live Oak, Stephenville and back to Lewisville.

..Rivery and Round Rock, hopefully. :D

Chris,

Are there 10 distinct locations or is one or more of them used more than once? If one is used more than once, I would think that we would have to list only 9 locations.

If you really want a hint 2 events are in Lewisville again this year. You will have to guess the rest.

By the way, nobody has got close yet. :cool:

Can I play ?

In my best John McEnroe voice, "you can't be serious".

As the potential Texas State Coordinater I think that counts you out, not to mention what else you know.

Instead of a beer I will buy you a diet coke to keep quiet.

I havent seen the 2K4 requirements, but does it REQUIRE 36 distinct holes, like last year was SUPPOSED to? (no jabs at the ones who didnt)

Yes and No. The preference is for 36 holes. If not we will work something out.

In 2004 I will try to have each event play 36 holes. Just remember I can put up portable baskets anywhere. Anything is possible if I need it to happen.

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Well that certainly opens up the possibilities....

well that just blows my guesses into the wind. :mad:
ps. Will the Final be the same as it was this year? Two days, ams and pros seperate.

I have to run out for a while but here's a little more info.

1st and 10th event in Lewisville. The final will be 2 days, the same as this year. Am's Saturday and the Pro's Sunday.

Don't worry about whether a course has 9, 18, or 27 holes, I can make things happen and will.

Here's the original post again.

It's that time of year to have some fun and win some prizes.
I am very close to completing the 2004 schedule.

Who would like to guess where the 2004 locations will be?
The 1st person to correctly guess the 10 event locations for 2004 will win an Innova Tour Bag worth $65.

I will do not expect the dates to be complete for the next few weeks but the locations should be.

To the handful of people and friends that have been let into the secret locations sorry please don't post. I will buy you all a beer next time I see you.

10 Events, One Charity, 1000's of Disc Golfers
Helping Lance in the fight against cancer.

Hrmmmm.......new guesses to follow....

Lewisville, Lewisville, Burnet, Live Oak, Houston, Waco, Arlington, Round Rock, Lago &amp; uh, uh Temple.

that's the first time anyone's ever offered to buy me a beer just to keep my mouth shut. hmmmm....new possible ways of acquiring beer....its good to be me. :)

2xLewisville, Round Rock, 2xWaco, Houston, Ft. Worth, Lubbock, Red Rock, Lago Vista

d*mn it, James. Those are good guesses but I dont think Himing has the bag in pink, yet.

I'm with ya Mark!! Of course I have no clue to the locations, but I'll keep that to myself for a ZIGGY!!! :D

a free beer and a pink bag...Hmm..Lewisville,Ft.Worth,Waco,Round Rock,Lago,LiveOak,Round Rock,Round Rock,Round Rock,Round Rock. Sorry to let the cat out of the bag Chris.

LOL.....good guesses Edman.....

I have a feeling, its going to be a rather strange list, that Chris is confident nobody will figure out, to offer such a sweet prize...

I heard some rumors/stories earlier in the year, and have talked to people around the state over the last several weeks, but think 2-3 of my guesses are pretty far fetched.

I will offer up a wild guess at some point, after some more people make guesses, to potentially narrow down my possibilities.

:p

Lewisville
Houston
Live Oak
Waco
Lubbock
Austin
Round Rock
Red Rock
Wichita Falls
Lewisville

stop 11: NEW ORLEANS (EAST TEXAS)

NAWLINS!!!!!!

Interresting guesses.....going off history, Id say Austin Proper is a no way....

List nearing completion.....

Interesting guesses there Mike. Who knows you may be able to convince me to drive East with the Thunder.

As for Austin, Cong is very correct. Not the most supportive city in the world. The good news is there is plenty of good cities willing to support disc golf.

Looks like I have to give out more free beer than expected. Jason don't speak to your wife, she knows. However I may have a surprise or two in store. :)

I hate Austin Proper. :mad:

*sniff sniff* I'm an old hand, now. looks like MM1 and beyond for this old timer. :D

I hate Austin Proper. :mad:



No Doubt.....its AMAZING that Moody is even able to do COTO, they are such a PITA....

Chris says Mikey has good guesses......hrmmmmm....

he said interesting, not good.

here, let me take a stab, based on mikey's far fetched guesses.

lewisville
scottsdale
sipapu
la mirada
las vegas
waco
shreveport
minneapolis
tulsa
lewisville

how's that? :)

True.....my bad....

Still, we all know how slippery that Kangaroo is, so maybe he is intentionally misleading us!

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Minneapolis is too cold. You know I like the heat. Sipapu or Aspen???

We could head further east. I know a great little course in South Carolina. :)

chris, what kind of support do you require? just curious.

and, what kind of hassles does austin present a potential tournament director? i've always wondered why there's not more tournaments in my favorite texan city :mad::(

Hey Chris,

Which cities dropped out for next year?

The pain of living in a Disc Golf Mecca with only two tournies a year. Not including the Ice Bowl and Worlds Biggest by Gordo. COTO, Waterloo, Ice Bowl and World's Biggest are the only events that I can think of. I know that Marka was going to have a two-day tourney out at Bart but not sure how he lined that one up.

Just plain sad. :mad:Someone else can respond as to why Austin is such a stinker.

martin's right, we did originally schedule the Cold Turkey Classic at bartholomew park in austin. i was very excited by the prospect of an austin event, that is until i actually had to speak to the folks with the parks department. don't get me wrong, the folks i spoke to were real nice and sympathetic, but they have bosses. there were construction issues with the park that were supposed to begin prior to our event, that still haven't begun. there were park usage fees that couldn't be gotten around. there are insurance issues. most of all, there seems to be an attitude that the city of austin just really doesn't care if there are tourneys here or not. their courses are among the most played casual courses in the country, so beyond that they really don't seem to care about competition on them.

another big problem, at least in my mind, is that as chris mentioned, there are so many other cities out there who welcome us with open arms that we'd rather take tourneys to, that austin proper becomes kind of irrelevant.

this is all just the opinion of this author and in no way is meant to reflect anyone else's take on the austin situation. :)

Lewisville x2
Waco
Houston
San Antonio area
Corpus Christi area
Amarillo
Dallas
Lubbock
Wichita Falls

To all the people that have been calling, IM'ing and emailing the few people that know the key locations...I know who you are :)

I am sure you will all be happy and maybe surprised with a couple of the choices.

JPG if I was to tell you if, or which events dropped off from this year that wouldn't be any fun now would it.

Bill if I was to do Wichita, Lubbock and Amarillo I think I would need Exxon to sponsor me.

agreed. I would rather play casual here than worry about fees and so forth that the Parks Dept rapes us little guys on. There are plenty of minis to keep me busy all week long. :)

and Marka is right by saying that there are plenty of other cities that welcome us with open arms but might not have the night life that Austin offers. Or great courses. I do remember having a great time at the KoKo Inn's bar in Lubbock. Natty Light goes down so much easier when it is served from in a mason jar. :DFEAR THE DRIVE!

ok I will try again(the first one did not show up)
Lewisville x 2
Waco x 2
Round rock
Live Oak
Houston
Athens
Gonzales
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Lewisville x2
Houston x2
Live Oak
Lubbock
Dallas
Waco
Round Rock
Corpus Christi

Lewisville X 2
Waco X 2
Lubbock
Round Rock
Stephenville
Lago Vista
San Marcos
Wichita Falls

One more hint James. Lewisville is the only location we will do twice.

Gonzales won't be on the Texas 10 schedule but hopefully an event there very soon. I am still working out the details.

Here's my last try.

Lewisville (2)
Houston
Corpus Christi
Live Oak
Waco
Round Rock
Dallas
Lubbock
Nacogdoches

Lewisville x2
Round Rock
live oak
abilene
waco
houston
dallas
Stephenville
Lago Vista

Here's my guess:
Lewisville
Waco, Round Rock, Lubbock, Arlington, Lago Vista, Live Oak, Dallas, and Houston then again at Lewisville.

This is Marks guess:
Lewisville, Round Rock, Waco, Lubbock, Live Oak, Houston, Arlington, Victoria, Lago Vista.

How about this set Chris?

Lewisville X 2
Waco
Lubbock
Round Rock
Stephenville
Lago Vista
DFW Area
Wichita Falls
Victoria

Seeing lots of different gueses, still havent decided on a final guess.....

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, then back to Mercury for the final.

Woo-Hoo.....What did i win?

How long until you take pity on us poor guessers and tell us? Just curious about the time frame. :)

i guesss 168 players.....
do i win a free disc???? :D

this guesssing is just as bad as guessing the number of players except it takes ten times as long to read the thread

i'll buy chris the bag he's giving away if he'll make it stop!
:eek:

Lewisville x2, Waco, Live Oak, Lago Vista, Lubbock, Houston, Victoria, Wichita Falls, San Angelo :D

Ray

here we go
Lewsville times 2,gonzales,round rock/G,houston,waco,temple,dallas,san marcos,&amp; wimberly

OK....TONS of different cities guessed, and I suspect some of last years wont be there this year.

still finalizing my guess, have 2 lists in my head, one classic, and one going on info I have gathered.....

I'll give it a little time, before i decide which to go with...

That was just too funny Keith. I am the master of suspense. :) I will email you later about the marathon. The offers are out.

For Keith's benefit let's say you have until 8am Monday morning next week to guess correctly. If no one guesses it by then you all owe me a beer.

No one has really got close at the moment. As I said I am sure I will surprise a few with my decisions. As always I do things for a reason.

More hints soon if your lucky. :)

you are the greatest chris...i knew you would get what i said! :D
look forward to the marathon info as az is setting up the cactus series for 2004 this weekend and i would like to have an idea of time frame so i can get a good position on the calendar.....take care.....keith

Chris,

You gotta help us out here a little. Of the 8 remaining sites after LVille x2, how many will be temp courses?

In my best Jack Nicholson voice, "Help, you can't handle the help". So... I changed the words.

Now Bill if I gave you all the clues it would be too easy. How about the first letter of each location. I know at least one is a W.

One of the courses usually plays at 18 to 21 holes. We will make it an awesome 36. Another location that is normally 36 will share an event. One location is further north and one further south. One is old, one is new.

Have fun with those. :cool:

Look's like Keith will be tormented until Monday.

MUST....RESIST....URGE.....

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Lifeline ?
Audience opinions so far...
<table border="1"><tr><td>City</td><td>Guesses</td><td>City</td><td>Guesses</td><td>City</td><td>Guesses
</td></tr><tr><td>Lewisville</td><td>30</td><td>Ft. Worth</td><td>2</td><td>Minneapolis</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Waco</td><td>19</td><td>Gonzales</td><td>2</td><td>Scottsdale</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Round Rock</td><td>17</td><td>Nacogdoches</td><td>2</td><td>Shreveport</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Houston</td><td>13</td><td>Red Rock</td><td>2</td><td>Sipapu</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Lubbock</td><td>11</td><td>Abilene</td><td>1</td><td>Tulsa</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Live Oak</td><td>10</td><td>Amarillo</td><td>1</td><td>Earth</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Dallas</td><td>8</td><td>Athens</td><td>1</td><td>Jupiter</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Lago Vista</td><td>8</td><td>Austin</td><td>1</td><td>Mars</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Wichita Falls</td><td>5</td><td>San Angelo</td><td>1</td><td>Mercury</td><td>2
</td></tr><tr><td>Corpus Christi</td><td>4</td><td>San Antonio</td><td>1</td><td>Neptune</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>San Marcos</td><td>3</td><td>Temple</td><td>1</td><td>Pluto</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Stephenville</td><td>3</td><td>Wimberly</td><td>1</td><td>Saturn</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Victoria</td><td>3</td><td>La Mirada</td><td>1</td><td>Uranus</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Arlington</td><td>2</td><td>Las Vegas</td><td>1</td><td>Venus</td><td>1</tr></td></table>

Your amazing Gary. Maybe I will do a Texas 25 next year? Should we start the poll now? Sorry Keith.

Hey Chris,

You said one is old one is new. Is that old to the ZT10 or an old course? Same with the new. New to ZT10 or new course?

Both probably.....

ok one more try
Lewisville X2
Waco
Round Rock
Live Oak
San Marcos
Dallas
Victoria
Houston
Wimberly(more of a hope than a guess) :D

Two people picked mercury. :eek:

I thought we had only one of "those" people posting on here. ;)

And finally Chris. Make Smack Daddy [*****] or get off the pot. His almost-guessing is pissing me off. :)

Nyah-Nyah-Nyah!!!!

Im soooooo close, but dont want to get it wrong.....

I have a lightning big bag, that is falling apart, and a small/medium Innova bag.....could use a new one....

;)

John voted for Mercury twice.

Lewisville x 2
Waco
Houston
Lubbock
Live Oak
Round Rock
Georgetown
Lago Vista
Arlington

Lewisvillex2
Houston
Waco
Wimberly
Lubbock
Lago Vista
Dallas
Arlington
Round Rock

Gary,

I think you need to recount some of your hanging chads. I saw 6 votes for Arlington before you posted your table, including each of the first three guessers. That makes me wonder what somebody knows...

Lewisville x2
Live Oak
Round Rock
Houston
Lubbock
Lago
Waco
Corpus
Stephensville

Lewisvillex2
Waco
Round Rock
Houston
Lubbock
Arlington
Dallas
Live Oak
Lago Vista

OK, screw it.....here goes....

Lewisville x2
Round Rock
Wimberley
Witchita Falls
Victoria
Lago
Arlington
Live Oak
Waco

Lurking on this thread long enough.
Lewisville x 2
Waco
Lago Vista
Round Rock
Arlington
Victoria
Live Oak
Houston
Lubbock

Lewisville
Round Rock
Wimberley
Lubbock
Arlington
Live Oak
Waco
Beaumont
Houston
Lewisville

Ok, a recount.

<table border="1"><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td>City</td><td>Guess</td><td>City</td><td>Guess</td><td>City</td><td>Guess</td><td>City</td><td>Guess
</td></tr><tr><td>Lewisville</td><td>50</td><td>Arlington</td><td>10</td><td>Gonzales</td><td>2</td><td>Georgetown</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Waco</td><td>29</td><td>Stephenville</td><td>6</td><td>Red Rock</td><td>2</td><td>La Mirada</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Round Rock</td><td>28</td><td>Victoria</td><td>6</td><td>Temple</td><td>2</td><td>Moody\'s</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Houston</td><td>22</td><td>Wichita Falls</td><td>6</td><td>Abilene</td><td>1</td><td>Nacogdoches</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Live Oak</td><td>19</td><td>Wimberley</td><td>5</td><td>Amarillo</td><td>1</td><td>Rivery</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Lubbock</td><td>17</td><td>Corpus Christi</td><td>4</td><td>Athens</td><td>1</td><td>San Angelo</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Lago Vista</td><td>15</td><td>San Marcos</td><td>4</td><td>Austin</td><td>1</td><td>San Antonio</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Dallas</td><td>14</td><td>Ft. Worth</td><td>2</td><td>Burnet</td><td>1</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td></tr></td></table>

Outside of Texas guesses.
<table border="1"><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td>Location</td><td>Guess</td><td>Location</td><td>Guess</td><td>Location</td><td>Guess</td><td>Location</td><td>Guess
</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Las Vegas</td><td>1</td><td>Shreveport</td><td>1</td><td>Mercury</td><td>2</td><td>Pluto</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Minneapolis</td><td>1</td><td>Sipapu</td><td>1</td><td>Earth</td><td>1</td><td>Saturn</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>New Orleans</td><td>1</td><td>Tulsa</td><td>1</td><td>Jupiter</td><td>1</td><td>Uranus</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Scottsdale</td><td>1</td><td>Mars</td><td>1</td><td>Neptune</td><td>1</td><td>Venus</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td></tr></td></table>

Lewisville x2
Waco
Round Rock
Live Oak
Victoria
Arlington
Houston
Corpus
Burrnett sp?

where do I pick up my bag?

I wish La Mirada was in Texas!

Some interesting choices. I am sure Mark will do his own event in Burnet since he is the Course AM.

I will say this, in the last week one person did get very close.

:)

Course AM, HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Lewisville x2
Waco
Round Rock
Live Oak
Victoria
Arlington
Houston
Corpus
College Station -whoop!! lol

now can I come get my bag?

Lewisville X 2
Lubbock
Victoria
Live Oak
Waco
Wichita Falls
Stephenville
Arlington
Houston

Chris, will you confirm if someone is right, after they post it, or will we have to wait, till you want to let the cat out of the bag?

(wonderig if i need to re-work my guesses) seeing as several people have made multiple guesses, i guess its OK.

wild guess here
Lewisville x 2
Waco
Carrollton
Wimberley
Round Rock
Lubbock
Arlington
Houston
Live Oak

ok i think i got it this time...

Lewisville
Round Rock
Wimberley
Lubbock
Arlington
Live Oak
Waco
Fort Worth
Houston
Lewisville

the suspense is killing me !!!!

Off the guessing subject a bit, but ending over the next few hours, Chris, our beloved TD has some great items going on ebay. Signed 2001 CE ROC by Shutlz, Signed Lance Armstrong Jersey, Signed Roc from the 2001 TX 10 and a few other goodies. Check them out before they are gone.

Lewisville x2
Arlington
Waco
Round Rock
Live Oak
Wimberly
Victoria
Wichita Falls
San Marcos

we need more clues

can some one tell me if my gif is working or not

Its not....

Second Guess:

Lewisville x2
Round Rock
Wimberley
Witchita Falls
Victoria
Nacogdoches
Arlington
Live Oak
Waco

lewisville,houston,arlington,live oak,waco,round rock, gonzales,lubbock,lago vista,lewisville

now it should be working

yep, its working now....

Lewisville x 2
RR
LV
G Town
L Oak
Waco
Arlington
Houston
Arlington

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lewisville x 2,waco x 2, arlington,round rock, temple,lubbock,live oak, and houston :p

Fortune, Chris said that Lewisville is the only location with more than 1 event.

Thanx Kid, then make one of those waco's Lago Vista. :o

Lewisville x 2
Waco
Round Rock
Live Oak
Wimberly
Houston
Victoria
Arlington
San Marcos

Lewisville x2
Lubbock
Arlington
Round Rock
Waco
Lago Vista
San Saba
Houston
Live Oak

LewisvilleX2,Round Rock, Waco,Lago Vista,Live Oak,Victoria,Witchita Falls,BB Owens,?

here's a clue for you all, the WALRUS IS PAUL

I always thought the Walrus was Ringo. :D

Koo Koo Ka Choo

What language you speaking Metal? Even I am confused and I know the locations.

Doesn't take much anyway :D You've been around Atwood too long :D

wrong, putter breath, he hasn't been around me long enough. if he had, he'd recognize the beatles reference.

btw, i buried paul. turn me on, dead man. :)

Lewisville x2
Lubbock
Wimberley
Round Rock
Waco
San Saba
Houston
Live Oak
Carrollton

Chris
Can you tell us if all the locations have been guessed and just not by the same person or is there a location nobody has guessed?

ah...i was waiting for that. :)

my guess has to be right!

good question....good question.....
Survey says....

Sorry guys I have been at the post office, such a fun place this time of year.

The survey says...

All the individual locations have been picked but not by the same person. One person was just one location away, some were way wrong. :)

Sounds like we need another HINT! Was there only 1 person that was 1 location off?

Lewisville
Live Oak
Waco
Round Rock
Lubbock
Houston
Victoria
Corpus Christi
Lewisville

Left one out

Lewisville
Live Oak
Waco
Round Rock
Lubbock
Houston
Lago Vista
Victoria
Corpus Christi
Lewisville

Hey James, don't you guys in the DFW area want more events in your part of town? Sounds like you don't mind driving. :cool:

Chris I would love more events in DFW
My Texas 10 wish list

Lewisville, Lake / LL Woods
Carrollton, Jimmy / Greenbelt
Arlington, Veterans with original front 9
Ft Worth, Z Boaz / Weatherford
Dallas, BB Owen / Audubon
McKinney, Alex Clark with some kind of temp holes
Irving, Fritz Park using the temp back nine across creek
Grapevine, Bear Creek with some kind of temp holes
Dallas, 24 hole Temp course at Flag Pole Hill
Lewisville, Lake / LL Woods

I could almost walk to them all :p
I guess you would have to change the name to Ziegen Light Dallas Ft Worth 10 Charity Tour

PS: I was hoping your reply was going to be � And we have a winner �

James, those guesses sound good to me! :p

Chris...stop the suspense...If this thread gets much longer we are going to have to start another one :D

ReddMan, Hanging out on the Board on a rainy Friday night. How are you, hope all is going well. Be sure to take a guess and try to win that bag. Take it easy!!
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I can't believe I have forgotten to guess until now. Here goes...

Lewisville x2
waco
live oak
houston
round rock
arlington
carrollton
wimberley
temple

Lewisville X 2 Lubbock Victoria Live Oak Waco Wichita Falls Stephenville Round Rock Houston

Lewisville X2
Waco
Round Rock
Live Oak
San Marcos
Dallas
Victoria
Arlington
Wimberly :cool:

last try

One more guess...I guess
Lewisville x 2
Waco
Lago Vista
Round Rock
Dallas
Alington
Live Oak
Houston
Victoria

aaahhh, some free time to read a few post and there were several on this thread I had not read.

hears a hint for you all

Leave off Lubock (unless something changed sence last I heard)

say no more, say no more, wink wink nudge nudge.

as current pdga Texas Coordinator (at least for a few more weeks) I don't think I am able to make some guesses. :D

Lewisville x2
Arlington
Waco
Georgetown
Round Rock
Lago Vista
San Saba
Live Oak
Houston

Lewisvillex2
Houston
Waco
Wimberly
Lubbock
Lago Vista
Carrollton
Arlington
San Saba

Lewisville X 2, Round Rock, Waco, Arlington, Live Oak, Houston, Witchata Falls, Victoria, Dallas

This is addicting...
Lewisville x 2
Waco
Lago Vista
Round Rock
Dallas
Alrington
Live Oak
Houston
San Marcos

TWO MINUTES!

It's now 8am on Monday morning as promised.

Here you go. Please note these are in alphabetical order. The dates for these events can wait until early January.

Arlington
Dallas
Lewisville x2
Live Oak
Round Rock / Georgetown
Victoria
Waco
Wichita Falls
Wimberley

Cong and Mitch got the closest from memory only being one location off. The Round Rock / Georgetown guess I would have accepted RR by itself.

I believe everyone that guessed wrong owes me a ZiegenBock. :)

Have fun, I will be back to answer questions later.

Thanks
Chris

I was only 1 F'ing location away. :(

looks good! DALLAS?
What course?
and if its bb owens, I hope them boys have new baskets(not upgraded) by the event.
You can count on the ROCK/RIVERY event to have good baskets and by far the most challenging of all the courses.

by far the most challenging of all the courses.



Y'all are redisigning the rock? :eek:

Maybe we could play White Rock and Flagpole Hill. BB sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D

I second that Kid-Roc! B.B. Owens is pitiful! Come on THUNDER from DOWN UNDER, Flagpole Hill and White Rock Lake!

All the courses listed are challenging, The problem with each one is the second course used is always some pee pee course or some made up turd.
Tell you what Jamesy
Come to the Willco mini this Sunday.
I will bring the silver platter, you bring you arse and I will serve you .
A little side action. Lets say I give you 10 strokes for the day for $20

Wow, 10 strokes???? Can I get that deal too?

All the courses listed are challenging, The problem with each one is the second course used is always some pee pee course or some made up turd.



you might wanna rethink that comment, bull. was white rock a made up turd? will the other 18 at vetran's be a made up turd? was the rr south course a made up turd? is the hill course in wimberley a pee pee course? is either waco course pee pee or made up or a turd? have you seen the witchita falls courses?

don't playa hate, playa participate. :)

What happened to lago vista ? That was an awesome setting I know the format was a little wierd only playing nine at a time. But I had more fun there .Sure makes it hard on a Corpus player to travel to Dallas three or four times .

White Rock is not a turd. BB is!

All the courses listed are challenging, The problem with each one is the second course used is always some pee pee course or some made up turd.



you might wanna rethink that comment, bull. was white rock a made up turd? will the other 18 at vetran's be a made up turd? was the rr south course a made up turd? is the hill course in wimberley a pee pee course? is either waco course pee pee or made up or a turd? have you seen the witchita falls courses?

don't playa hate, playa participate. :)



thats our Vinnie....people skills totally absent....

How is the ROCK/Rivery gonna work?

How long of a drive is it, between them, only played rivery twice I believe, but never played both in one day.

my point was that white rock was the temp course. vinnie was a little outta hand in his comment and i was just bringing him back down to earth. that's all.

you gotta do that sometimes

Mark you got a private message

Hey, I'll take blame for this one. I knew Vinnie was dozing off at work, so I jabbed him in the side. You know, he's almost masters age now and needs that extra jolt on monday mornings. It was my week to provide the jolt.

Round Rock and Rivery are about 15 mins apart. GOING TO BE THE BEST TOUR STOP OF THEM ALL!!!!

well james how bout them 10 strokes.
Ok I retrack wimberly and waco are nice 2 course events. And the rest....lets put it this way . You can polish a turd all you want, it still a trud

Just say no to BB!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

what's a "trud?"

c'mon vinnie, you really don't think you're being a little harsh? what about the 36 hole vpo layout at veterans? and you didn't answer my question about whether you've even seen the wf courses yet. and, i know you're a fan of victoria.

ease up there, man. :)

TURD!
I 'll easy up when I die!
and what about 36 holes at veterians. They got 18 holes that are nice.
WF course?
If you mean the lucy park course , I have played that -15 course.

HAHA, this thread is getting interesting.

This thread will get interesting when its santioned. Until then its a rec one day mini interfearing with the P.D.G.A. schedule :D

This thread will get interesting when its santioned. Until then its a rec one day mini interfearing with the P.D.G.A. schedule :D


That was funny :D

I have to argue the sanctioning portion of that argument.

First, these are not sanctioned, and therefore do not have to follow any PDGA scheduling problems. Chris does work with the SC to secure dates that do not interfere with sanctioned events. He does not have to and any TD that wishes to do so can schedule an event on the same weekend as a ZT10(I guess it is ZLT10 now) except for the final.

Second, the ZLT10 draws in a lot of non-tournament players because it is non-sanctioned. Many of the new TX golfers that are starting to tour got into competitive golf through the ZLT10.

From an attendance point of view, if all of the ZLT10s were sanctioned the attendance of current touring PDGA golfers at ZLT10 events would increase, but the number of non-PDGA golfers would decrease. As it is now, the number of non-PDGA players that start in ZLT10 events that later go on to become PDGA members and start playing other events is increasing.

Personally, I would prefer that all of the ZLT10 events be sanctioned, but I think the current situation is better for the growth of DG in Texas.

Of course, I could be wrong.

This is just what I have noticed from watching the number of participants that start the year without PDGA numbers and end the year with PDGA numbers and how many of those PDGA numbers start showing up in other events.

THANK GOODNESS!! A TOURNEY IN WIMBERLEY!! Let's just hope it is during a nice time of year so the camping will be good.

HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!

okay, easing up might be a lot to ask for, i'll admit. but, maybe, you should at least redefine your perception of "mini."

at least you included the smiley. :)

Mark, you know nothign short of 10 ROCk stops, woudl stop Vinnie from ******** and moaning....

:D

thats why we love him so.....you ALWAYS know how he feels about something....

I like the way you thinking.... but if it was 10 rock stops they WOULD be sanctioned. :D

I'm like a shotgun shell thrown in a fire, you know its going to go off, but when and at who......you just never know :cool:

Ya vinn,But thats what we love about ya .No Z-10L at Lago this year so will you please bring your boat to mr atwoods event there! That was the best time I had all year .

hech yeah,
We have a condo out there now so there will be a "mini" long weekend boating and golfing the first of the month

we all need to take a deep breath and laugh:

How can you tell if someone is a sissy? (http://homepage.mac.com/heythere/LeapinLizards.mov)

**** it, there goes Vinnie again!!! 2 choices, either love him or hate him :D We'll definately be out for the Lago event this year :D Nothing like abusing your body for 2-1/2 days straight :D Hopefully I'll remember it a little better this time :o

That is one funny clip! :o

Lets say I give you 10 strokes for the day for $20


Will you give me 10 strokes on the day also? :D

hey v-man, i capn klank is referring to the 2-day hcf event on memorial day weekend at LV this year, not my 1st of the month mini. a holiday weekend on a beautiful course and lake at one of the best parts of the year weather-wise.

its gonna rule.

sorry for the thread drift mate, i just have to spend so much time keeping vinnie straight. man is it time consuming. oh well, that's what friends are for, i suppose. :)

<font color="brown"> </font> Chris I hope you are enjoying the holidays as much as possible without being down under. Looking forward to the Z10 Light Tour. I was in Victoria last weekend visiting the in-laws :p and saw a nice article in the paper about the Riverside Disc Golf Club's Ice Bowl next month. The piece also mentioned the Z10 tour stop on August 21 as well as the Victoria Open in February. Well take care and I'll see you'll next year.

Thanks Billy. Yes a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everybody. The weather at home right now is in the 90's. I hope you enjoyed the photo of Lance and me I emailed out to everybody last night. That was one funny joke he told me.

Victoria will be a fun event. The date may change but I will let you know on that. It will still be a summer event.

Don't forget the Gonzales Open will happen on March 27th. It will not be a Texas 10 but a PDGA C-tier and a Southern Nationals qaulifier. A fun course only 40 minutes SE of San Marcos. More news soon.

2004 is going to be a great year for everybody.

:cool:

the SN qualifier is for people who play pro only? Can an Am qualify for SN?

Martin, where are you getting the Pro Only from?

Gonzales Open, does not refer to a pro only tournament...

:cool:

SN Finals, are both AM and PRO....

Seperate weekends, I think....

gotcha. I just thought the SNationals were for Pros only. I didnt know SNationals had an am and pro weekend.

Chris,

Do you know possibly around what month the Wichita Falls stop will be? I am really excited about playing that one....

The Wichita weekend will be a fun one. Texas 10 on Saturday and a HCF event on Sunday.

On Saturday March 20 I will do a 2 round Texas 10 event. On Sunday Mark Atwood will do a HCF Tour Event. Now you have no excuses not to go. Wichita Falls is only 90 minutes north of DFW.

We expect a good crowd from Oklahoma as well as Texas.

More news on the schedule and entry info next week.

Happy New Year
Chris

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Wichita Falls is only 90 minutes north of DFW.


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Chris babe,

It's about 147 miles from DFW Intl Airport to WF. If you get there in 90 minutes, here's the math:

(147 miles/90 minutes) X (60 minutes/hour) = about 98 MPH or 158 KPH.

This is not posted to discourage a caravan from D/FW, but if I see the "Thunduh from down Unduh" in my rear view mirror, I'm gettin' outa the way!!



Looking forward to ZLT10CT04!

2 hours to WF

:oChris will obviously be attending 2004 tour in his new Ziegen Light Texas 10 Charity Tour Bell Jet Ranger helicopter. That could explain the estimated time to travel from DFW to WF. ;) <font color="yellow"> </font> <font color="brown"> </font>

Dates??

I will be posting dates and how to enter first thing on Tuesday morning.

I will also post how to enter along with a few sponsorship options.

Thanks
Chris

The 2004 Ziegen Light Texas 10 Charity Tour is ready to go. Please find following the dates and locations for this years events, along with how you can signup now to guarantee your place in the huge added money final in November.

In the coming days I will announce more exciting new things about the tour including tour bonus calculations, sponsorship methods, tour points prizes and hole in one info, just to name a few.

In 2004 the prices for the first 9 events have not changed. These are all-inclusive and include your ace pot, charity donation, and tour bonus.

All pro divisions - $40
All advanced divisions - $30
All intermediate divisions - $30
All recreational divisions - $20

The exciting new addition will be at each of the first 9 events you will be allowed to buy 1 mulligan per round. Each mulligan costs $2. $1 of this money goes to the Lance Armstrong Foundation and $1 to you as tour bonus.

February 28 Lewisville
March 20 Wichita Falls
May 1 Live Oak
May 22 Wimberley (plus $5 greens fee)
June 19 Arlington
July 10 Waco
July 31 Victoria
August 21 Dallas
September 25 Round Rock / Georgetown
November 13-24 Lewisville

Call me directly today at 512-289-2299 to pay by credit card. Titledisc is not setup just yet to accept our entries, but should be by the end of the week. Or email me back with your phone number and best time for me to call you.

Call me now to secure your place in the 2004 Ziegen Light Texas 10 Charity Tour. More news very soon.

Thanks
Chris


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Ziegen Light Texas 10 Charity Tour
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Ph. 512-289-2299

Got my quick 6 picked out already...have to get some group roadtrips for the others....looking forward to another great year Chris!!!!

"November 13-24 Lewisville"
**** chris....
i knew you like to do things big but a 12 day finals is not ever to be equaled...
longer than worlds and usdgc combined....
sorry that i only get 2 weeks vacation or i would be there!!!
:D

Sorry Nov 13-14. It just takes me that long to recover. :)

Don't forget I also do a few other little events during the year.

- Gonzales Open : March 27
- 24 Hour Marathon : Each weekend in June all over the world!
- McKinney Open : June 26
- Surprise event : September 11

More fun news soon. Keith your time to talk will come.
:)

Sorry Nov 13-14. It just takes me that long to recover. :)

More fun news soon. Keith your time to talk will come.
:)



sounds like i'm in trouble or something...isn't that what they tell you as the switch is getting pulled on the electric chair :eek:

too bad about the may 1st date for LLLLIIVVEEEoAK!! @ least one half of Team LIVE OAK (that's 3 players) will not be in attendance.....going to try to find disc golf in HAWAII !!!!! :( I guess we'll have to get all of our bonus qualifiers on the road this year. :)

Theres Discgolf in Hawaii Robert, you lucky bastages......

who are the other 2?

Matt Farrar V and Shawn Low. We're all taking our better halves to Oahu....I saw a directory listing for a target golf course.... will have to check it out. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

chris....the powers that be here in az didn't put my june 26-27 days on the calendar for this year and one of the mountain cities asked for the same days for a cactus series event...after their event had been scheduled for sept....if i dion't kill somebody first i may move the event to september when their dates were(if nothing else it might be only in the 100's instead of 110's during the day..........would this be ok with you???
also check out the socal charity thread..you will like what i posted to michelle and rhett......keep up the great work....keith

Hi Keith. I can work with your dates but will give you more details soon. Why not combine the player package and fundraising efforts for the Cactus Series event with the Marathon. $5 from each package will go back to that event.

Lots more info soon on the Marathon.

Thanks for the other post.
Chris