Hell, Pat... I'VE made more STD events than you!



and bambam, i've got more completed sanctioned events than you :D

but this isn't the completed sanctioned event thread.

That's OK, BBD.... it's the only thing he has to hang his weak DG career hat on. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

BBD.... maybe we will just form a renegade team till Woody surfaces (not sure but I might have seen his face on a milk carton yesterday) :p anyway.... Im thinking perhaps we could just kick the crap out of ALL of them.... young and old alike.... :D

works for me, ya old bagger. Maybe we can teach the masses that neither age group reigns supreme, the key is a combination of both :)

yeah i'm weak. just not compared to you :D

sandalmans top 3 finishes, 2005: 4
bambams completed rounds, 2005: 3

sandalmans a tier wins, 2004-05: 2
bambams OMB DFLs, 2004-05: 2

sandalmans career firsts: 9
bambams career finishes: 7
............i win more often than you finish! :o

sandalmans career top three finishes: 26
bambams career rounds: 26
............i dominate more often than you pick up your bag :eek: :D

BamBam I can't believe I'm siding with you.... ;)

It's easy to be ahead in the above numbers when that's all you do (of course they're not percentages, so not really valid comparisons)... so let's compare BamBam vs Flipperman's:
weekends with family
money spent on tourney entry fees
money spent on all the things surrounding tourneys
height (ok Bam you lose that one) :D

Thanks, BBD.... there's just not a lot to add to that observation of yours. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

OH, let's not forget one other thing Pat excels at better than I... being a superior pain in the backside on countless threads on this board.

I'm only a pain on THIS thread. :D:D:D:D

but its so slow on thye 2MR threads today :D:D:D

btw, my tourney weekends ARE spent with my family. they travel with me, and enjoy the parks, scenery, views, etc. :cool:

btw2, i spend more at Home Depot when i stay at home for the weekend :eek:

btw3, i'll get busy converting some stats to percentages... but i'm warning you ahead of time... its gonna be ugly :o


btw4, this is the smack talk thread, isnt it? bambam knows (i hope) i am messing with him. if i didnt like him or think he was a good guy i wouldnt bother.

That was 5 minutes of my time well spent - LMAO :D

Of course I know that, Pat... everything here is all in good fun, as far as I'm concerned.

But, don't be too surprised when I call you out to defend $20 of your own cash in a head-to-head singles match, on your own course, even.... yano, just to shut ya up! :D:D

I just got a text msg from Reddman... he and the wife are at the hospital, now. Let's all have good thoughts for them and the successful birth of their new baby girl!! :D

Best Wishes for you and yours, Mark and Amy!!!

Couldn't wait just a few more days to share a birthday with me :D

Good luck to the new family!!!

ok, there is no one to blame for this but BBD:

bambams events played as novice, first four years: 20%
sandalmans events played as novice, first four years: 4%

bambams career cashes: 60%
sandalmans career cashes: 86%

bambams career DNFs: 30%
sandalmans career 1sts: 32%

bambams DNFs as OMB since july 2004: 100%
sandalmans A tier firsts since July 2004: 100%



dont make me do more! :D

and good luck Reddman!!!

I love it when I can make a comment that causes work for someone else :D

anyway, GRATS REDDMAN!!!

Just started looking through tourney results and found something I like about OMB in Texas.

Over the last 5 years, and 70+ sanctioned events, I have come in second in OMB 11 times. Of those 11 times only one player has finished ahead of me twice and one of those was in doubles play. This is a great division, and no one dominates. It is always a toss-up at the start who is going to have a hot round and have a chance at a victory. I will admit there are some players you expect to see in the top 5, but they are not always the ones that win.

There is more great news to report, but I will let Reddman get on and do it himself. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

They have computers at the hospital ?

He came out with a mini in his hand? :D

False alarm? :D

It isn't his :D

Hey sandman could you do that stuff with my career stats :D

Don't forget to get the stats from '93 on when you total mine:D:o

Thanks. :cool:

I know I've got 1st and 2nd at M, A, B, & C tiers. We don't have any D-Tier events around here.

what M did you get a 1st or 2nd at, gary?

Marshall Ray, i'll look into it, but '93-'00 is hard to get. now, this is not defnititive, but i'm pretty sure it would look something like this:

1993: you sucked 100%
1994: you sucked 96%
1995: you sucked 82% (way to step up!)
1996: you sucked 74%
1997: you sucked 69%
1998: you sucked 48% (EXCELLENT WORK!!!)
1999: you sucked 51%
2000: you sucked 54%

i'll get the rest later :D

what other, more challenging stats can flipperboy come up with? how bout:

how many smileys per post has Frank averaged since 11/03 (when the board was rebuilt)? How many for BamBam?
Given x as the number of threads Sandalman has posted on, what percentage of x have received whiny-boy posts? What percentage have received braggardly posts?
What percentage of STD events have BamBam and Sandalman each participated in? (close to 0 for both :D)
Of all STD events, what percentage have been "protested" or "boycotted" by Pinkie?

:cool:

I want this on my desk by COB tomorrow ;)

Shoot when sandman, duke and I got our pdga #s there were no tiers. I wouldn't have gotten my # if they hadn't required it in '95 or'96. In 94 I got second at Waco. It was only a 9-hole course that they had just gotten the Baskets set the thursday before the tourney. The back 9 were portables. I got 3rd and 4th at Waterloo Park tournies Park Pete and Waterloo that year and moved up from Novice that year. Aww those were the days of going to the local courses and not having to wait behind a herd of kids.

Oh and Sandman YOU SUCK! :D

But that was good smack :cool:

i'll finish that for you he still sucked the next four years. :Dbut also turned into a rule [I'm a potty-mouth!]. :Dwhich he still sucks at. :D

World Doubles is listed as a Major. It's not singles play, but it's still a finish in a Major.

i'm a potty mouth :eek: that sounds like something your grandmother would say. :p

i got my number in 1998, a few months after i started playing... i think there were tiers then, not exactly sure. they gave me the lowest available number, so mine is lower than people who got theirs several years earlier.

gary, looks like 5 firsts, 11 seconds, and 5 thirds.

BBD, that was pretty funny. the brain transplant seems to be working.

you cissy's better hope pat and i don't decide to team up on this one. all this weightless smack you've been dishing will be back to haunt you all at once. :eek:

tats right.... even at porter where the weenie arm ygbs can reach upwards to half of the greens from the tee! :eek:

Shoot when sandman, duke and I got our pdga #s there were no tiers. I wouldn't have gotten my # if they hadn't required it in '95 or'96. In 94 I got second at Waco. It was only a 9-hole course that they had just gotten the Baskets set the thursday before the tourney. The back 9 were portables. I got 3rd and 4th at Waterloo Park tournies Park Pete and Waterloo that year and moved up from Novice that year. Aww those were the days of going to the local courses and not having to wait behind a herd of kids.

Oh and Sandman YOU SUCK! :D

But that was good smack :cool:



I remember that tournamaent, (I played Adv) how about the tournamment held before that run by John Houck that we did not have enough baskets to use so we played a tree for one of the holes.

I use to play every Waco tournament because my sister lived in Waco. Those were some great times.

I also played several tournaments at Waterloo, including Park Pete Open.

I got my PDGA number for the 2nd Am Worlds in Whichita KS. I think that was before any of you ever played a round and before some of you were born :D

Yeah, I never got 3rd in a Major.

i'll finish that for you he still sucked the next four years. :Dbut also turned into a rule [I'm a potty-mouth!]. :Dwhich he still sucks at. :D



We'll see how bad I suck @ the Marshal gig next time you're around :D #800

Bring it protest boy and athletes feet ...we may or may not win..we may play flips..but atleast we will smack on the course and not here for a few hours.. :D

Mark - are you a daddy yet?????

Ryan...I just picked up a Predator that my brother had with your name..I gave him a crud disc ( nice plastic Cyclone)..

I will have it on thursday if you want it back.if not..it goes to the sacrifice pile :D

Thanks, Adam.. yeah, I'd like that one back. I'll bring my plastic stash with me on Thursday... maybe you'll see something you like that you can replace that Cyclone with.

well looks like team pink flip flop may be able to work it out :eek: as ole jack would say. ' YOU CAN'T HANDLE TEAM FLIP FLOP' :D

that's team pink flip flop. oh and i'm still in protest mode.

Ryan - I wasn't too stuck on the cyclone.it was just the closest disc within reach that I wasn't real attached too...just grab something I can throw over #14 and not care if it doesn't come back :D

though I did park it a few days ago with the cyclone..

Any new word on Mark and family?

wouldn't it be team pink thong?

i vote for draw doubles,, no more of this bring your own damm partner,, i would like to play around with some one different,, frank you have to get over this and bring you [I'm a potty-mouth!] out to play,, smurf i want on of those GR's,, will bring my $ on thursday,, well if we aint drawing then not sure if i am in..
and for those that dont want to do draw then come up with a reason not to.... :p

that is wierd (i'am a potty mouth) and I spelled a z z,, guess they are catching on.. :o

and yet you still find a way to type it into a message...

You know I am in. I will shoot with any of you as long as I just get to play.

I will bring a few retrievers with me Watts and Josh if you still want one...I have 4 left I think.

I wanted one of those too.

draw doubles is fine with me.... all I know is that whoever I end up teamed up with is gonna end up on the winning team.... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

and that aint smack talk.....

Yes, there is good news about Mark and family, but I'm gonna let him tell it.... don't want to steal ALL of new daddy's thunder, yano. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D:D

I wanted one of those too.



I should still have 1 or 2 left over and if not I am going to purchase another batch of 5

well i asked first :) like forever ago

Then grab one, I won't need one for a few months.

I wanted one also.... but then I got to thinking.... I dont think I really want to throw in the water in the first place.... so I think Im gonna save myself 20 bucks and just not throw it in the water anymore.... :p

you other guys know what holes you gonna use them on yet? :D

I'm gonna carry mine just so I can charge you $1 every time you have to borrow it. I figure it'll only take one round to get my money back :D

I will have one for both Josh and Gary W.

Duke if you want one now I can hold it for you, but if not we can always get more..

Todd and I are going to Porter today if anyone wants to play around 5:30-5:45.

LOL Parker, you had better go ahead an buy two of them!!!

or you could play in the mini in Mckinney tonight.....
parker you have a PM

or you could play in the mini in Mckinney tonight.....
parker you have a PM



Pretty Mouth :o

ok thats it,, phag joke :o

Gary doth protest too much, methinks ...

Gary doth protest too much, methinks ...


HHHMMMM both Gary and Frank are in protest mode??? Sounds so sweet, they must be in love!!! ROFLMAO

Nice signature there Tad.... :o

hey if pat and i show up, were a team if you don't like it tough pink string. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif still waiting on confirmation from pat.

man you are a little beeatch sometimes :D...go for it...

Pat...do the stats on lefty holes vs righty...

I am still with flipping with whoever shows up....Krell rolled us tonight with -8 and parker and I tied at -2's...ouch

no just smart :eek: i'm not driving clear across town to get somebody i may or may not want as a partner. since duke is in hurt mode i'll take another omb in sandals. :eek:

you guys are lucky butterfly and i aren't teaming up. :D

who's butterfly?

Jimmy Porter, lefty vs. righty

Hole 1 - 0
Hole 2 - 0
Hole 3 - 0 (this could be righty, but lefty with an annie is at no disadvantage)
Hole 4 - 0
Hole 5 - +1 righty
Hole 6 - 0
Hole 7 - 0
Hole 8 - 0
Hole 9 - 0
Hole 10 - 0
Hole 11 - 0
Hole 12 - 0
Hole 13 - +.5 righty
Hole 14 - 0 (altho i feel this can ever so slighty favor a righty, the narrowness close to the pin makes it easier to call it even)
Hole 15 - 0
Hole 16 - 0
Hole 17 - +.5 lefty
Hole 18 - +.5 lefty

OVERALL: 0.5 righty. Jimmy Porter is an incredibly balanced course. absolutely equal.


you could make a case for a few of these holes going .5 one side or the other, but they are so short that really simple annie lines are there. and there are as many Ls as Rs in this category, so its a push.

that would be mr. watts :Dhe's gonna kick my butt next time he sees me. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

i agree on all but 14. if that isn't a lefty hole then watts doesn't have a cute tattoo. :D

14 - lefty straight but extreme trouble if ANY hyzer on last 2/3's of flight, or if you're even 10' to the right. righties can s-ball it a little more easily than lefties. but righties can also get into trouble if they skip left. 14 is a testy little hole. if you draw out all the possible lines for both righty and lefty, then assign a degree of difficulty to each line, i think you'll see it might as well be a toss-up. dont forget to account for the troublethat happens if you miss the perfect line!

now, are you playing tom or what???

yep

sweetness! see you there!

What?!? Sandalman showing up!?! not flipping? I'm protesting :cool:

BS on Porter

#1 .25 lefty - with the brush that the rail road cut, the hole now favors lefties
#2 .25 righty - Only the tree stop this from being =
#3 .5 Righty - my favorate shot is actually over the trees
#4 .75 lefty - this is a turnover shot for me everytime.
#5 1 righty - no brainer
#6 .75 righty - very small lefty shot
#7 .25 righty - larger gaps on the right
#8 .5 lefty - there is a good lefty skip shot
#9 .5 Lefty - There really is not a hyzer shot
#10 .75 righty - The lefty shot puts you much more over the pond with trees guarding the hole.
#11 .75 Righty - There is a small straight shot for lefties
#12 0 - with the basket right in the middle this is a straight shot from the tee pad
#13 .25 righty - the big hyzer over the top is much better than the lefty shot through the trees.
#14 .25 lefty = the leftly has a better chance of the bird
#15 0 - birdy both left and right
#16 .25 Righty - the second shot favors a righty
#17 .5 Lefty = There is a tough shot over the top.
#18 .75 lefty - for the locals it is an automatic bird from the right. But for non local players, this is a pure lefty hole.

I was not all that far off, I figured 1.5 favor righty. This hole makes a right handed player throw the turnover on more than one hole.

you'll be protesting when were done with you. :eek:

no just smart :eek: i'm not driving clear across town to get somebody i may or may not want as a partner. since duke is in hurt mode i'll take another omb in sandals. :eek:



man you are a wuss....god forbid you have to play with a partner you didn't choose... :eek:

#1 .25 lefty - with the brush that the rail road cut, the hole now favors lefties
<font color="purple"> if a righty cannot execute a straight shot for less than 300', they need some serious practice. this hole play is a push </font>

#2 .25 righty - Only the tree stop this from being =
<font color="purple"> if a lefty is worried about that one lonely tree he needs to get a life. the brnaches are high enough they are not a factor. this hole is a push. </font>

#3 .5 Righty - my favorate shot is actually over the trees
<font color="purple"> again, the righty has a long (400') hyzer. unless you are one of the few with a 400' honking hyzer, this hole is easier to reach for a lefty! calling this a righty hole is a perfect example of not enough thinking when doing a LvR analysis. </font>

#4 .75 lefty - this is a turnover shot for me everytime.
<font color="purple"> less than 250', a righty throws a gentle annie. if that shot is not in your bag, you are in trouble. the ease of the annie makes this a push. </font>

#5 1 righty - no brainer
<font color="purple"> PG got the no brainer right at least. go figure :D</font>

#6 .75 righty - very small lefty shot
<font color="purple"> what is it, 200'? so what if the righty can swing it wider... if righty doesnt go wide enough he's in the creek. the lefty, who should absolutely be able to hit that hole at less than 200', is at least skipping towards grass. the difficulty difference is non-existant </font>

#7 .25 righty - larger gaps on the right
<font color="purple"> yes, there are a few more trees blocking the left route. but not nearly enough to make it a righty favorable hole. </font>

#8 .5 lefty - there is a good lefty skip shot
<font color="purple"> be serious. that skip shot is just as small a hole as the straight shot. </font>

#9 .5 Lefty - There really is not a hyzer shot
<font color="purple"> huh??? the lefty has an open hyzer. righty doesnt, but geez, he's got a straight line to the basket, which is less than 300'! what do you want? a fifty foot hole??? </font>

#10 .75 righty - The lefty shot puts you much more over the pond with trees guarding the hole.
<font color="purple"> this is one i could go along with you on. but, it is a relatively short hole, and lots of room for a lefty annie. certainly not .75. maybe .5R at most, if anything. a lefty should not consider this a righty hole at all. it might pose a chal;lenge to a lefty, but not enough to merit serious complaints. </font>

#11 .75 Righty - There is a small straight shot for lefties
<font color="purple"> a lefty complaining about having to make a 150' annie is a total wuss cvissy mama's boy. besides, there's a tomahawk that drops right on the pin. </font>

#12 0 - with the basket right in the middle this is a straight shot from the tee pad
<font color="purple"> now i know you are not paying attention. i call this one even also.. but you have been assigning points for extremely slight advantages... if you were consistant you'd recognize that the righty has a nice slow hyzer fade, while the lefty needs to annie ever so slightly. still a push in my book. </font>

#13 .25 righty - the big hyzer over the top is much better than the lefty shot through the trees.
<font color="purple"> the lefty shot is not through the trees. its a high turnover that crashes the tops. i might agree it is marginally a righty hole, but the shortness really makes it a push. </font>

#14 .25 lefty = the leftly has a better chance of the bird
<font color="purple"> this hole is one of the most incorrectly analyzed holes in disc golf. i dare you to draw out all of the possible shot lines on a graph paper, lefty and righty, and support the theory that this is anything but a very tricky hole for both sides.</font>

#15 0 - birdy both left and right
<font color="purple"> i guess it takes a wide open 300' hole with the same number of trees on both sides for PG to get one correct! :D</font>

#16 .25 Righty - the second shot favors a righty
<font color="purple"> WRONG again. there are as many lines thru the guard trees for lefty as righty. also, a roller stays more in the center of the fairway for a lefty. </font>

#17 .5 Lefty = There is a tough shot over the top.
<font color="purple"> probably true </font>

#18 .75 lefty - for the locals it is an automatic bird from the right. But for non local players, this is a pure lefty hole.
<font color="purple"> that doesnt make it a lefty hole. the line is there for righties. lefty cant help it if they cant/dont see it. i'd give this one a .5L, though, just for the pure (bigger than it looks) lefty hyzer. </font>

PG, the first key to LvR analysis is not to be too detailed. second key is to consider all shots a decent player should have. a 200' gentle annie glide should be as given for a decent player. therefore holes like #11 are pushes. a 400' hole with stuiff on the left may look like a R hole, but is arguably more reachable with an s-ball... making it a push. and so on...

hey frank you just suck,,, what the he11 is wrong with flip doubles??? we have all agreed on it,, well i guess some of us have,,, what the he11 bring who ever you want and play where ever you want you phag... I will be there and the rest of us can flip and hopefully we all beat the [I'm a potty-mouth!] out of the pink flip flops..

your truely, butterfly

Pat - you have way too much free time - go Putt! :D

see you there Mr Watts...I am fine with flipping...maybe Steve can carry me around the park :p

and I don't care one way or the other... hell, I finally get to play a round on a day other than Saturday! WOO HOOO!!!! :D

bambam it will be good to see ya,,,, and i am glad i get to play as well, and I do not care who my partner is,, good golf good freinds, good fun,, and frank sucks for sure :o

it is a 6PM start, right?

Gary said phag....... :D

who cares! what time does the thing start tonite?

Yes, Pat.... 6:00pm start tonight.

6'ish....once we are all there..but pretty close to that....time to throw some plastic, smack the smack and enjoys some CFO's with the gang

thanks bam and todd. i'm gonna leave office at 4:15, swing thru arlingotn to grabthe wife and kid, then head north. should be there by 6 no prob. i hope we start at 6 - the purrs are gagging on the pistons again tonite and i dont wanna miss too much of it. :D

6:00pm, Jimmy Porter. Be there or be square... well i guess some of you can't help but be square... or old :D

As far as LvR analysis, sandalman you aren't thinking very hard with yours, either. Hole 1, for example *does* favor lefty. Just b/c there is an easy line for a righty advanced player doesn't mean that it is necessarily neutral. it's far easier to just throw a big hyzer than to nail a straight (slight turnover) shot. You can't take for granted the player's skill in an analysis like this. If we assume top-pro skill, then nearly every course is neutral. You have to think of it more like: "does it take more skill for a lefty or a righty." Only then you can really judge the hole. Obviously the easiest shot in the book is the basic BH hyzer, so if the hole favors that shot for either group, the points go that way. I do, however agree that it probably does work out to a fairly neutral course. Since I'm at work and bored... I'll rate the course LvR using -1 as a full lefty advantage, and +1 as a full righty advantage.

#1 -0.5
lefty hyzer is by far the easiest route, still not difficult for a righty

#2 0
long, straight shot. advantage really depends on the wind conditions

#3 +0.5
I agree w/ PG. the righty s-bomb is the easiest route to the hole. the easiest 3 is most certainly the righty hyzer route. Since Flipperboy says lefty is easy too... I'll go .5

#4 -1
shorter version of hole 1. big lefty hyzer. any lefty newbie could birdie this hole fairly easily

#5 +1
arguably the toughest lefty birdie on the course.

#6 +0.5
easier for a righty skip, short enough to be almost neutral anyway.

#7 +0.5
easier line for the righties

#8 0
tunnel or hyzer for either group

#9 -1
once more, a lefty hyzer shot.

#10 +0.5
safer routes for righties, easy 3 for either. easier to birdie for righties

#11 +0.5
righty hyzer skip was how steve and I both aced it a few weeks ago. it's not a full 1 since the thumber route is popular and there for both groups

#12 0
used to slighty favor righties but PG moved it (PG we gotta talk about this. #12 could be an awesome hole with the basket out farther to the R and deeper. Come out today and I'll show ya where I mean :D)

#13 +0.5
righty spike hyzer is easiest route, plenty of other routes for those more creative.

#14 0
no real advantage either way. Both groups have tons of risk when shooting for birdie and very little risk when laying up.

#15 0
easy hyzer for either group.

#16 0
long bomb, wide open...

#17 -0.5
lefty hyzer route is a little more accessible

#18 -0.5
lefty hyzer is way more accessible, but there are good righty hyzer routes too

This assessment results in an overall +0.5 score.

well, we both say .5R, just different methods for arriving at it.

#3 - if the righty annie is sweet, why is the lefty annie more difficult? by taking the righty annie instead of the hyzer, you've (correctly) figured out that the annie will get ya there more easily than the hyzer.

#4 the lefty hyzer still must negotiate a tree jail - and it is thicker than the jail you face when going staight at it. there is NO way #4 is as difficult for a righty as #5 is for a lefty.

#6, #7 - its an insult to lefties to say these are advantages righty. average length of about 240'.

#9 - i MIGHT be able to give you a -.5 on this hole, but thats a bit lame. all a righty has to do is go straight for 240'. certainly not a -1

#10 if #9 is a -1 with no OB at all, then #10 would have to be a +3! calling 9 a -1 and 10 a +.5 is silly.

#14 - finally someone who understand what i've been sayin all along! BBD gets it! i really dont understand why this hole is so difficult for people to call a push.

the rest - you are pretty much right on. you may give out some points more easily than me, but Porter has enough of a balance that it zeroes out, and we get the same overall result.

i think BBD has some good talent at this LvR stuff!

the reason I say #3 favors R is that for a rec player or anyone else that can't throw 400 ft (even with an S-bomb), a 3 is easier for a righty. just 2 hyzer shots and you're putting. no trees to deal with, nothin. The main difference b/t our approaches is that I'm assuming little-to-no skill for a baseline, and working up from there, while you're assuming that the player at least has intermediate-level skill. Saying that "all they have to do is throw straight for 240'" is a little presumptuous. I'd say that on average, more people can throw a hyzer 240' and get close to their target than can do the same thing for a straight shot.

Maybe the point is that no matter how you look at it, the course is neutral :D

so, since there are lefty *and* righty holes... does this mean that team <font color="pink">pink thong</font> should have an advantage? So if you get beat, that means you REALLY suck? :D

The main difference b/t our approaches is that I'm assuming little-to-no skill for a baseline

i guess you have to work with what ya know the best :D

whats the <font color="pink"> thong </font> stuff? sandals are not underwear. besides, i'm partial to commando style.

the answer to your questions is: porter is short, relatively easy course. in doubles it should push no matter what the team's makeup. in essense that means that if we are on the same team and if we get beat, then yes, we would have truly sucked. especially if we got beat by a team with BBD on it.

None of you old trash talkers are going to come to Lubbock this weekend??!!!

nope. need a weekend with da family and my home depot charge card. had tourneys in 2 of last 4.

I am sure my dad will be disappointed in you guys not making him feel at home for this tourney!!! :p

Well, maybe if it were called "Old Short Fat Bald Weenie Arms on the Brazos", I might consider it. :D

LOL.

maybe we can hold a short drive contest for you bam bam. :D

sorry nate, but we have way to many local tourny's....

That'd be great.... but could we call it a "long putt" competition, instead? Feeds the ego a little better, I think. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D

jack and kevin will be out with us tonight, i told them we were going to flip for doubles,, with the exception of Pinkie and swamp foot..
so i guess flip flop gets dumped when dukie desides to come out and play again,, you know all three of you need to get a room :o
i am flipping and playing a round with the young guns and having some fun

i never said anything about flipping or not flipping. except when all you loverboyz were pms'ing last week and i suggested ya knock it off, flip for partners, and track overall results instead of omb v ygb.

i sure dont blame the ygbs for being skeered of a pinkie/sandalman team. they should be!

but i dont care if we flip either. in fact, in some ways that would be preferred. this is only my second std event, so i'm just going along with whatever.

I like flipping unless a doubles tournament is coming up. Since we only have about three of those a year, it isn't that often.

I would also like to try the paske partners method of trading of partners halfway through the round. It's a little more trouble to keep stats, but not really very difficult.

I think keeping stats at this point is a bad idea. Too many rules and too many people who disagree with them. Let's just play :)

i sure dont blame the ygbs for being skeered of a pinkie/sandalman team. they should be!




Yeah right, the only thing we will be scared of is how much whining you two are going to be doing.

And after the posts I've seen from you today :mad::confused:, I am worried about your attire. New Rule, OMB's must be fully clothed to play with YGB's. No unnecessary nudity or butt slapping!!! LOL :eek: :D

i sure dont blame the ygbs for being skeered of a pinkie/sandalman team. they should be!




Yeah right, the only thing we will be scared of is how much whining you two are going to be doing.

And after the posts I've seen from you today :mad::confused:, I am worried about your attire. New Rule, OMB's must be fully clothed to play with YGB's. No unnecessary nudity or butt slapping!!! LOL :eek: :D

The main difference b/t our approaches is that I'm assuming little-to-no skill for a baseline

i guess you have to work with what ya know the best :D


somehow i knew you would find a way to say this... nice edit of my post ;)


whats the <font color="pink"> thong </font> stuff? sandals are not underwear. besides, i'm partial to commando style.


See (copied from dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=thong)):
thong (th�ng, thng) n.
1. A narrow strip, as of leather, used for binding or lashing.
2. A whip of plaited leather or cord.
3. A sandal held on the foot by a strip that fits between the first and second toes and is connected to a strap usually passing over the top or around the sides of the foot.
4. A garment for the lower body that exposes the buttocks, consisting of a narrow strip of fabric that passes between the thighs supported by a waistband.

so... by definition #3, a "thong" is a type of sandal. You wear sandals. Frank is deathly afraid of pink string. A string bikini is comprised in part of a garment also called a "thong." Team <font color="pink">Pink Thong</font> is the logical combination of these ideas. Learn to deal with it. :D


the answer to your questions is: porter is short, relatively easy course. in doubles it should push no matter what the team's makeup. in essense that means that if we are on the same team and if we get beat, then yes, we would have truly sucked. especially if we got beat by a team with BBD on it.

You'd better show up and take your whoopin like a man. Oh, and BTW we talk sh*t the whole time. Be ready :D

taad is becoming a post wh*re :D

Cool, they liked my post so much they had to add it twice.

Just spoke with Nate Derr and he is back home and starting to feel a little better. He was in pretty bad shape but will be back on the course soon. Said he had a friend bring over a basket for him to putt at.

See everyone at Porter tonight, lets throw some frisbee's!!!

Let's try this.

Series 1 swept by the OMB's at 4-0.
Series 2 tied at 3-3 going into this week.
Series 3 to start next week.

That's good news about Nate... that's one DG brutha that needs some good karma.

He ought to just get really good at DG, turn pro, and join the tour. That way, he could just ride around with other pros and stay away from bikes and cars, altogether. :D:D

Get well, N8!

do you have a proposed scoring method? I think flipperboy or someone (all you OMBs look alike) mentioned something along the lines of a weighted point system. Here's my take: Teams are flipped for, top 50% get points based on the number of teams beat. one point given for showing up (but not placing), and one extra point given to the victorious team. At the end of Season 3, the point leader determines the winner. Points are carried solely on a per-age-group basis. For instance:

Game 1 (hypothetical. for you OMBs, that means "not real, only for conversational purposes")
#1 Parker / Dann (the way it should be :D) 6 pts
#2 Murphy / Krell 4pts
#3 Dorsett / Watts 3 pts
#4 Tabor / Jones 1 pts
#5 Flipperboy / Krappl 1 pts
#6 some OMB / Some YGB (I ran out of names off the top of my head) 1 pts
net result: YGB 17pts, OMB 15 pts.

This method keeps either group from gaining too much advantage with a stacked field, but still rewards those who show up. Teams can be flipped for without detriment to the OMB/YGB competition, and another factor is added for mixed teams since points are shared. It does, however, make it difficult to swap partners mid-round. I'm not a big fan of that anyway unless it's a pro/am or mixed doubles format.

thoughts? questions? comments? stupid remarks?

gary, that would imply this week would be traditional omb/ygb competition.

here's another example of an unbalanced event:

#1 OMB/YGB 4pts
#2 YGB/YGB 2pts
#3 OMB/YGB 1pts
#4 YGB/YGB 1pts
net result: OMB 5pts, YGB 11pts.

or, same people, different teams and placing:

#1 OMB/OMB 4pts
#2 YGB/YGB 2pts
#3 YGB/YGB 1pts
#4 YGB/YGB 1pts
net result: OMB 8pts, YGB 8pts.

As with any 2-sided competition, the side with more numbers has the advantage, but even in a 25%/75% split, a tie is stil possible.

bbd, so you had to go the third definition for it to make sense? ok, i can live with that. after all, you need to go to your third putt to complete the hole. life is so balanced, its hard to argue against a creator of higher intelligence :D

as far as the scoring thingie goes, if its flipping plus points system as described, that would work, but it wouldnt make sense to keep it omb/ygb. it would be better just as man on man. (i am sure watts will prefer that approach anyway! :D)

can we just throw some fargin plastic :o

I'd say 5,4,3,2 then 1's regardless of the turnout.

If there are only three teams, at least they all made the effort to show up and should be rewarded.

With any flipping or swapping system, points should be kept on an individual basis.

ok, if you insist on making it omb/ygb then why not only award points to the top n players from each "division" where n = the number of omb or ygb players, whichever is smaller.

but i see one problem. if one division is sufficiently ahead after several weeks, they could deliberately screw up if they got a partner from the other division, making it impossible for the other side to catch up.

i think you either have to make it individual competition, or always pair up within divisions. could you flip within divisions? that way jones wouldnt have to live in perpetual fear of a <font color="pink"> pink thong </font> dynasty.

i think that system could preserve the OMB/YGB competition. The points are rewarded to the age group, not the individual. I think it would also promote more participation to boost numbers :) It also has the potential to eliminate and discrepancies about who won what. You show up, your team gets points. You play well, your team gets more points. Pretty simple.

As for 3 explanations... it's not my fault you can't grasp a concept the first time :eek: :cool:

can we just throw some fargin plastic :o


we'll get there... but I have at least 2 more hours of drudgery from which my only escape is getting creative with points systems. I was also gonna reply to Gary on this post... but I'm gonna do some post-wh*ring myself :D

but what about the screw your partner problem?

I think the fear comes from your "commando style" remark...too many visuals...Watts can't handle it :D

Great news on Nate Dog

I think Pat has a valid point. There has to be a limit on the number of players that can gather points for their team and it has to be limited by the team with the lower number of players. So if there are 8 YGBs and 6 OMBs, only the top finishing 6 YGBs get points.

i know it would not be obvious with BBD as the partner, because his completely talentless play is virtually indistinguishable from deliberate tanking... but with anyone else (possible exception of twatts) is could happen!

I'd say 5,4,3,2 then 1's regardless of the turnout.

If there are only three teams, at least they all made the effort to show up and should be rewarded.

With any flipping or swapping system, points should be kept on an individual basis.


First of all, death to swapping. Watts might be disappointed, but I'm just not into that sort of thing. Plus it skews all the numbers and results.

I think 5,4,3,2,1,1,1,1 (ad infinitum) is fine, except when we have an unusually large turnout or an unusually small one. If we had 10 teams, it's a 40% payout, with 2 teams, it's 100%. I think we should keep it at 50% (rounded up), with a minimum number of points for payout. Say, 3 pts minimum. If only two teams show up, one team is playing for 3 pts, the other for 1. Three teams would be:
#1 3pts
#2 1pts
#3 1pts

WTF,, can we all not just flip and then play around,, oh but wait, frank all ready said that he would only be partners with pat or he wasnt playing,, screw him,, i say we flip and you stat boys do what ever and we have a great fun round of STD's you know like it use to be,, dukie why do you all ways want to do some stupid [I'm a potty-mouth!] like change up partners in the middle of the round or whatever,, disc golf is challenging enough for me as it is,, leave it f*cking along..
hey bbd you can shut you pie hole and keep them phag jokes to you self..
what the he11 does a casual round mean to you guys any f&cking how,, play and have fun with your **** friends..
at this point i can go home and have more fun....

ok I just saw the other posts from flipper and dukie... valid points. lemme see if I can mesh those ideas with mine... brb :)

P.S. Watts ya big sweetiepie, we're just having fun with this stuff. You don't have to worry your pretty little mouth about it :D

can we just throw some fargin plastic :o

No doubt

Then post wh*re on my fellow golfers....let 'er rip...I am not working today so give me some fodder to have fun with...

no more dictionary posts though - :D

Boy all these point systems and flipping and crying sure is a lot of effort for bragging rights! It's probably a good thing there is not money or plastic riding on this. Kinda like a war, although some of you OMB's would have to stay out of the front lines as women are not allowed into combat situations. :cool:

Good start TAD...SMACK ATTACK....and poor Pinkie can't even read this until later....after he loses :p

Because I have fun when trying new approaches to familiar situations. I don't really enjoy playing the same courses the same ways over and over. I like the challenge of finding new lines and approaches, like the hopscotch holes we played at Porter. That was fun, not because we won, but because we had to think and execute.

Anything that takes you away from the normal routine throws is entertaining.

so of course this is just for fun, but maybe we could actually develop a good system (to be used in some crazy format somewhere). I'm sure we can keep the stats in a format readable by all. I'll even host it on my site if ya want. I'm still having trouble coming up with a system without any holes in it... might have to just apply it to today's results once we have it hashed out :)

Good start TAD...SMACK ATTACK....and poor Pinkie can't even read this until later....after he loses :p



yeah and wait till he gets there tonight and finds out that he might have to flip for a partner,,, lets see any takers that he gets in his box and goes home crying all the way,,
oh and shari please do not call him we want to surprise his silly *****..
well its almost time for all he11 to break loose. :D
hey smurf what time you getting to the course if you are not working,,, care to have a CFO before the BS starts/???

oH..gARY...I am actually at work,,,just not working...I have someone else taking care of that for me today so I am catching up on old stuff that is mind-numbing and pointless..I will be there at 5:30 with a full cooler....many with your name on them....just say the word...

see you then with a beer in my hand

Gary said phag again.....

I want an OMB on my team....I never get to shoot with them..just against them...and I need someone to carry me around the place :p

I have your retrievers Watts and Dann

gary says phag and parker get interested. what a pattern there steve. make sure you come out of the closet at least an hour before tee off so your eyes have time to adjust

weak....... dissmissed........

Should be atleast 4 YBG's and 4 OMB's...come on 5pm, cold beer, disc golf and fun

Did some bastich take the batteries out of the clock? I'm dyin ova hear!~!

i'll be there by 6. prepare to lose.

i am counting at least 6 old farts,, Jack, kevin, dirty feet, pinkie, parker in the closet, and myself,,
yeah my clock is slow as well,, maybe i just move that biatch up :D

Oh yeah...Jack and Kev...

I think we have Todd, Krell, Josh and myself....I think Dieder is visiting momma and Woody is still MIA

ummm... hello?

(tap tap) is this thing on???

:p :D :eek: /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D:cool::) (just for those of you counting smiley faces)

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:D

oh and i forgot about bambam,, sorry shorty

so OMB will win 7-3 !

SWEET!

smurf you have a pm.... and that dont mean pretty mouth either for all you phag's out there lurking (parker) :o

No problem, almost as shorty. :D

It hasn't shown up yet Gary....I will check again in a bit...

so where is everybody?

What happened ?

Parker and Jack shot -11...Todd and I pulled -10...Frank said he won't play Thursday anymore so we ragged him and Watts even harder...They were -9...Kevin and Ryan -7....Josh and Krell -9...Pat (odd man) -8 I think??

Frank..you better show up again..and Sherri..smack that man in the skull....and tell him to check his cart :D

your choice brother...but I enjoy golfing with ya...

i thought that the pink twatt shot -10, but i might be wrong. yes, i did go -8 playing cali, with a circle 5 on #5. cali is fun, but it does suk. a small disadvantage with only one extra shot per hole. i guess i'll start a thread about it tomorrow :D

it was fun. lil steve parker's drives are really coming along. jack had a beautiful solo birdie on 16. well not really solo.. his 80 footer run was set up by steve's nicely executed layup. bbd and the krellster were great to play with. krell sure can putt!

Krell can putt??.. you must have been watching another card :D

I can stand losing by 1 any day if you birdie #16...SWEET...

what a fun round...that is the game... :)

I think the fear comes from your "commando style" remark...too many visuals...Watts can't handle it :D

Great news on Nate Dog




I will be there in December so get ready!!!!!!!! :D

You are talkng to me right?????? :confused: /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Nope, Nate Derr was involved in a car accident on the way to Waco. He was reported to be out of the hospital and getting better.

you guys suck /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Happy Birthday Adam

Happy b-day Murphy... you drunk yet? :)

-11 Tabor/Parker
-10 Team T-n-A
-9 Krell/Dann
-9 Team Pink Mariposa
-8 Sandals played with himself
-6 BamBam/Kevin (I think)

Some pretty decent scores. It was nice to have the deciding factor be a 2 on a 485ft hole :) Everyone showed Frank the love. We just hope he can handle it :D

oh yeah, we set a record with BamBam, Frank, and Sandals all there at the same time. congrats to BamBam and Sandals for playing their first STD event this season :D We also had Mr. Tabor and Kevin there who are part-time regulars. I guess Frank showing up makes everyone want to play :D

you guys suck /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



i guess thats all we will ever here out of him again,, come on frank it's all good,, maybe if you would have put you head in the game we could have done better you old *(&^#@ :D

Saturday - lake lewisville 8:30am
sunday - cedar hill 8:30am
come one come all,, smurf if you would get in bed just alittle earlier you would be able to come out and enjoy the fun.. :o

this sunday *is* fathers day so I'll be in Athens. I might be tempted to join ya at the lake tomorrow though, depending on if we play cards tonight.

you guys coming to CH on sunday morning... you oughta come to the vet and play at 10AM... the ace pot will be well over 2 grand.

Actually, BBD, that was my second STD this year... first one was GB way back in week 2 or 3.

You remember, the one where you showed up late, and we were just finishing hole 2 when you got there? :D

I enjoyed getting out with the STD group again, even though I left part of my game at home. It's good Kevin was putting well, because I think I hit 2, maybe 3 putts the whole round. :mad:

Good shooting Tabor/Parker!

Oh yeah, almost forgot...

Happy Birthday, Smurphy!!! :cool:

Actually, BBD, that was my second STD this year... first one was GB way back in week 2 or 3.

You remember, the one where you showed up late, and we were just finishing hole 2 when you got there? :D



wait, was that the one when I got there at 5:55 (for the 6:00 start time), *told* TWatts on the phone that I was on my way, and y'all still started without me, forcing me to play odd-man since everyone else already flipped? I guess I forgot you were there :D Man, I really shoulda gone into protest mode after that one...

Man, I really shoulda gone into protest mode after that one...

Oh, no doubt! That was as good a reason to protest as any other we've seen this year. :p :D

Thanks for the b-day wishes Gang - I think Krell and Dieder are about to go shoot a round...

Happy b-day Adam.

What's going on ?
Do we have a current score ?
Are we even keeping score anymore ?

I think it's obvious, Gary. Frank has totally dominated this year. He has obliterated the competition... Frank wins. :D

Man, you guys suck! You made me read 182 posts for the last 3+ days!!! :D

Yes, I officially became a daddy @ 2:22 pm on June 14. As I told several people last week, we would have a Flag Day baby (no tWatts, that's not phag day). If you didn't know, my wife's maiden name is White and her favorite color is blue. Do I really need to spell out the <font color="red"> Redd </font> part? She is a good little girl who hardly ever cries! :eek: We came home yesterday afternoon, and she just sleeps, poops, and eats. :D What a life!! Here is the scoop that some might be insterested in:

Alexandra Amile Reddoch
June 14, 2005 2:22 pm
5 lbs 15.8 oz (rounded up to 6 lbs - I thought Flip-flop and BBD might like that technical stuff)
19 inches long

Wish us luck that she will continue to be a non-crier! :) BTW, Mommy is doing great. Labor was so easy for her. She wasn't very far along, so I went to grab a quick lunch with my brother. I did have permission from Mommy and the nurse to eat! :D I come back less than 30 minutes later, my wife says, "It's go time!" (Mandelbaum from Seinfeld :D)

Sorry, got interrupted having to watch someone poop some more. :D Promise me you won't make me read another 182 posts!!! :)

Congratulations, if you wouldn't wait three days between readings, it wouldn't get so high.

OK, Frank wins. Do we start a new series ?

yeap thats it franks wins and its all over now,, and he was mad as he11 about it,, oh well we will never see him again,, thanks for being a good sport.... :D
congrats Redd...

congrats Mark and family..... happy bday Smerf....

any one there,, is this thing on,,

I think it needs batteries.

Mandelbaum!! Sweet Mark...congrats the both of you

BBD..thinking of maybe playing some glow golf around 7 or 8pm...just got to moms for some pool time..My beer intake and score were quite similar this morning and I am not sure what to think of the Discraft Avenger :p

I found Todd, Joe Rotan and Duke's discs at PIAS..none of yours or mine

Give me a ring if you think a doubles round with Tadd and Krell at GB might work...PIAS gave me 2 lights and I think Todd has some also

Congratulations Redd!!! :D

your only 4500+ post away TAD :D

have fun for that last 20 min of work.... :D

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your kidding me. :eek:out of the 9 birds hole 6 my drive hole 8 my drive hole 11 my drive hole 12 my drive hole 15 my drive hole 17 my drive hole 2 my drive. hole 14 your drive my putt hole 13 your drive my putt. :eek: imagine that. i may not of been a happy camper but i always try. :eek:

congrats reddman on the new addition, hope the wife is doing good. so is she dating yet. :Dhappy b-day smurph you punk. :D

Congrats Red..... I am very happy for you and your family. Glad to hear everybody is healthy. Can't wait to get back out there and play with you guys. See you soon. hollaaa

oh and happy B-day Murphy..Your not an OMB yet are you?? :o:D

no he just looks like one :D

I still have hair you cranky OMB :D

and I have yet to adopt the pull-cart into my game :p

so are you having a nice birthday Adam?

hey, congrats to Reddmann and Happy Bday to Adam!

so are you having a nice birthday Adam?



All I could ask for and now I am about to fall down and call it an event...I bought back some of the crews discs...played golf...was able to hear about Marks good news...splashed in the water, spent time with the neighbors and family...found out yesterday Atwood is getting married, lost money in Poker ( josh ..you didn't call).., made Krell drink 4 whole beers, found directions to the Fly 18 course for tomorrow and enjoyed every bit of it..

Wherever next week is I hope to see FRANK out there..

Protest THiS :o

hey he told me about that awhile back but i thought we weren't supposed to say anything. :eek:

Its common knowledge now, Frankiepoo. :)

Congrats to the new dad with the coolest first name. :)

Happy belated B-day to Mr. Murphy.

that's cool it was just one more thing i could beetch at him for. :D

Congrats to the new dad with the coolest first name.


What ? Did Watts have a baby ? :cool:

if it is such a cool name why didn't he name the baby mark. :D

Alexandra is good enough. Her Daddy's middle name is Alexander. :D Plus, Mommy and Allie have the same middle name.

Thanks for all the well-wishes! :cool: Hope to get to play some golf in the next year. :p

Congrats on the new baby girl!

yes, CONGRATS again redd. when are you gonna post some pics up somewhere? Ya know, so we can see if she looks like you or not ;)

Murphy, sorry I didn't call. Had some issues to deal with at home and by the time that was all figured out i was so tired i just kinda passed out. I totally meant to call and play some cards :-\

Let's start deciding on thursday's location so that Frank has plenty of time to come up with an excuse :D

fritz

FRITZ works for me...Todd is right by there with his work and Krell can make it. How about the rest of you?

can't make it :eek: gotta trim my toe nails that day. :D

fritz works for me......

Watts..Todd and I will be at CH in the morning (gasp)...we are going to leave about 7:45 so we SHOULD be there by 8:30

give me a call in the morning if your plans change..or I will just have to Whoop in TOAD by myself :D BBD..come on..If I can get up that early...you might be able to :p

Krell's back is broken and we are currently searching for a nice "home" to let him live out his last days with a smile.

i've got dibs on the car then :D

Nice to play so early in the morning and whoop in the OMB"S....Todd and I pulled -11 to the OMB's -5, -5 and
-4 :D

Parker - have the kiddo show you how to send the mullet photo

Fathers Day, man... I was up that early, but headed to Athens. Spent the day on the lake, can't complain :) No golf though... I guess it wasn't perfect :Dbut we had a good time. Seems like you guys coulda let the old bastids win one on Fathers Day?!? :)

i wasnt there, so the ygbs took advantage. i was however going back to back with 1sts at CH on saturday and Veterans on sunday. (not bragging, just reviewing the facts of the weekend :) )

in MA1 or just MM1? maybe it's time for you to move up... :D

both were open masters, you tree smacking worm burning 150' hyzer throwing weenie arm :)

open masters? geez.. SKEERED much? :D

not of you, no. unless i'm a tree. :o

MOVE UP. play MA1 :)

Move up.... that's a good one, BBD. :p :D

i' ve done that a few times in pdga play. but at locals minis it is not moving up to play in MA1.

Heck, any DFW area tourney where Mike Kennedy, Joe Sofinowski, or Randy Greywolf show up, playing Open Masters is tougher than playing Advanced.

and frequently as tough as playing open

what happened to the denton open? it was supposed to be this weekend, but its not on the pdga schedule.

anyone know?

Did you notice who the TD was supposed to be? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I would assume (dangerous word, I know) since he was having trouble funding/running his TX10 events, that the Denton event was probably not real high on his list of things to worry about this year. :D:D

Like the gonzales open!! **** shame, that is a good couse!!

well then thats a bummer.

something to keep in mind when priorities are handed out next scheduling session!

now, what about the Fahrenheit Fling? toolen was pimping it at yesterdays mini, but its not on the pdga tour calendart either :(

also the temple open!! another bummer!! :confused:

hey frank you playing this week,, might need a partner :oyou grumpy old fart,,
so i am guessing it is at fritz??

yeah I was looking forward to the Denton open... oh well, i guess :(

Fritz this week! 2x through the 9-hole course. Lotsa shade, fun holes, good times. Far enough west that maybe some of the A-town boys can make it :D

and far enoug hsouth. if it was for the HOV lane, i wouldnt been at JP in time last week. but fritz is on the agenda for this week for sure. lots of shade is right, and the kid can go hang in the playground so the whole family's happy.

i might, but i am not sure yet,, I would have to get out of here early to beat all that traffic.

I'll have to see if Mommy will let me get out to play this week. I think it won't be a problem as she has been bugging me to go play already. :cool:

Not only do I have an awesome wife, but I have a great daughter, too. She got me a a Carolina bag for Father's Day. What a smart kid for only 5 days old!! :D Do I really have to tell you what color I ordered?

Congrats Mark!!!

What's her pdga number?

I dunno, but I bet her sig line will soon read "highest rated player in my house" :eek: :D

So Mark, momma's getting tired of you hogging all the feeding time with li'l Allie already, huh? :D:D

No PDGA number yet. :cool: I might have to see how well she can putt once she starts walking. I think Mommy enjoys dressing her in all of her clothes. She is so small that we had to buy some preemie sized clothes. Time to get a shot of her holding a mini. :D

Kewl... I've got a wooden "Longhorns" mini she can hold :cool:

How long 'til you two start dominating the Father-Daughter doubles events? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Denton is canceled.

The Fling is unconfirmed, and late for a sanctioning request.

Denton is canceled.

The Fling is unconfirmed, and late for a sanctioning request.



Either one would be too hot for me! I hate TX summers. :D

hey duke i,m trying to call but i think it's your lost cell i'm trying to call. :p

I can hear it all the way up here! Answer your phone, Duke!! :D

Who's going to start the thread to complain that post totals don't show anymore?

Pat - Todd has one more blue swirl APX that is new if you are interested...I can bring it out on Thursday

thanks, but i dont want swirlies. not that i dont like them... i do. but i'm looking for the old plastic apx.

OMBs suck

yes, they suck at losing. they dont have much experience with that. they could learn a thing or two about losing from the ygbs. cuz the ygbs excel at losing. the ygbs suck also, but they suck at winning. given this difference it is clear that ygbs win at sucking.

that was pretty weak till the end. even then, not all that great. OMBs lose at posting about sucking, but win at sucking at posting...

Pat - Todd has one more blue swirl APX that is new if you are interested...I can bring it out on Thursday



Adam, i'm interested! What does he want? :D

Pat - I doubt I, myself, have any APX old school left but I will look around...I know I did, but can't recall if they went on ebay. I may also have some MRV and MRX old school if you throw those.

Pat - Todd has one more blue swirl APX that is new if you are interested...I can bring it out on Thursday



Adam, i'm interested! What does he want? :D



I've got an APX <font color="green"> Swirl </font>. Not used very much. What would you be willing to give for it? :cool::) No asking what color it is! :o

I'd guess it'd have somewhat of a reddish hue to it. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Am I close? :D

Only if you are thinking about <font color="green"> Christmas </font>. :D

its prolly green, cuz he knows john has a salad thing.

Hush with the salad talk. I can't help that i enjoy bleu cheese dressing on my salads.

Mark, I'll take it. Adam, I'll take it. Sandals, shut your donkey! :D

its prolly green, cuz he knows john has a salad thing.



Yes, it's green. And that was funny! :D