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The Evolution of Flying Disc Technical Standards and the Sustainability Initiative

The Evolution of Flying Disc Technical Standards and the Sustainability Initiative

Sunday, November 6, 2016 - 11:12

Disc rim images courtesy of InfiniteDiscs.com.

Early History

Our games began innocently enough, but as we were tossing our new Pluto Platters around in the backyard, we pretty quickly started to come up with games that were a lot like golf. And, when we moved into the local park to play it was no problem at all because these delightful toys were a great fit with a mixed-use environment. If a flight did go astray it was certainly much less of a disruption than a baseball or football flying into your picnic. We played very well with others.

Sports Objects

In the grand scale of sports missiles, we were a very friendly addition. And, just for fun, here's a list of a few sports objects roughly arranged by, "least friendly" to "most friendly." At the top of the list are missiles that you would least want to have fly into your picnic and at the bottom are those that you probably wouldn't even notice:

  • Bullet
  • Javelin
  • Arrow
  • Dart
  • Shot Put shot
  • Discus
  • Bowling ball
  • Horseshoe
  • Paint ball
  • Hockey puck
  • Golf ball
  • Baseball
  • Softball
  • Soccer ball
  • Tennis ball
  • Volleyball
  • Basketball
  • Shuttlecock
  • Table Tennis ball
  • Nerf ball

So, where did our 75 gram Pluto Platter fit in? Somewhere in the neighborhood of the tennis ball seems about right. It was a very friendly object, especially because it floated through the air and fell to the earth so much more slowly than most of the other objects. And, that friendly flight was definitely a big part of the Frisbee's appeal.

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1958 Wham-O Frisbee, based off of Fred Morrison's Pluto Platter.

The Performance Race

Fast-forward about 25 years. Our little Pluto Platter had turned into a Pro Model and then to a World Class 119g. That said, how were we doing on the friendliness scale? Actually, not too badly. Even the 119g was still probably in that tennis ball level. It was still pretty light and flexible, and of course, now had an even taller rim that is almost square. Unless it landed in the potato salad, it probably wasn’t a big deal if it floated into a picnic.

But, disc sports had now emerged and had now begun the search for improved performance. We wanted to fly farther, driven mainly by our rapidly growing interest in disc golf and the overall field events.

The first key to that improved performance was the gradual increase of disc weights. It wasn't quite as obvious as we might now think, but it quickly became clear that heavier discs flew farther and handled the wind more effectively. Especially in disc golf, those benefits were immediately obvious. In fact, during the Night Flyer "weight race" period, it seemed like there were slightly heavier disc available for sale at every event. In fact, this created quite a controversy as the limited number of the latest and heaviest discs were not always available to everyone.

At about this same time we made another basic discovery; smaller discs flew farther than larger ones. Again, this may seem obvious now, but do remember that in earlier days we were under the impression that large discs like the top of the line Master Frisbee were the best performers. However, somewhat smaller discs like the 70 mold showed that they could outperform the larger 40 mold 119.

There was a good bit of talk that this push for heavier and heavier discs was harming the sport. This led to the first ever technical specification for golf discs; a limit on the number of grams per centimeter of disc diameter. Various attempts were made to set limits and, at one point, a vote was taken among active players. The average of the suggestions was to become the new limit.

The math may have been a bit shaky since at least one jokester submitted "infinity" as his vote. After a number of years, an 8.3g per centimeter of diameter limit was set for competitive play, as well as a 200g max weight. These limitations removed a number of very heavy existing discs from play, but that standard held and continues to this day.

And that brings us to the next and possibly most significant step with the development of the beveled-edge rim. Once again, this advancement in aerodynamics may seem obvious in retrospect, but it was a big performance breakthrough that has changed the configuration of performance discs for all time. And, even though the design of early discs like the original Eagle appeared very radically pointed at the time, they of course, were relatively blunt.

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The original Innova Eagle, now called the Aero.

At about the same time, we began to see discs that were made of somewhat stiffer material as there was a growing belief that very rigid flight plates made for better performance. It was a common occurrence to see competitors at the distance throwing line with their discs being kept chilled in an ice chest.

The performance formula was clearly starting to emerge. To fly farther, discs needed to be heavier, smaller, stiffer, lower, and sharper. But, at this point we were still exploring the possibilities and the only two factors that were controlled for competition were weight and minimum diameter.

The Flazer

In 1989, we were gifted by a vision from the future. Into a few hands came the "Flazer", the prototype of a disc that was much sharper and stiffer than any of the current production. It was, of course, simply the logical extension of the performance formula that was being discovered.

In fact, it did seem to have some performance potential, but the bad news was that in some test throwing, when it struck the trunk of a palm tree… it stuck! This gave pause for thought and concern. Our playful little toy had now indisputably moved up into the less friendly third of sports objects. However, the general perception of flying discs, still typically dubbed with the congenial "Frisbee" name, was that they continued to be harmless fun, welcome to fly through any family picnic without concern.

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The design of the Flazer was breakthrough.

Simple Measures

In the early 90s, it seemed that the time was right to put in place a comprehensive set of standards for discs that would be used in play.

However, the flying disc industry was already beginning to take off with four major manufacturers and a number of others coming on as well. It obviously was going to be a challenge to overlay these comprehensive standards when no standards other than weight and size had been previously controlled. The additional factors that seemed important to include were: rigidity, rim depth, rim configuration and edge sharpness.

The last two components may sound redundant, but the general shape of the rim and the size of the actual edge of the disc were obviously different factors. An additional challenge to setting up the standards was a commitment to keeping the measurement procedures very simple so that every manufacturer would be able to evaluate their own discs without the need for purchasing extremely expensive equipment.

In several cases, this required the invention of simple procedures to replace more sophisticated engineering techniques that were also quite complicated. After much experimentation, a set of standards was established along with simple procedures to determine compliance. However, an even more significant issue was how to best fit with current production and convince the various companies to cooperate with the new standards.

It was not that difficult to set standards for most of the components without affecting current production. The most difficult of the standards turned out to be the edge sharpness, which had been our main concern about the prototype Flazer. A hot new driver on the market that had just come out was the Eclipse, which was significantly less sharp than the Flazer, but it was still the sharpest of the existing discs.

Because it had already achieved broad popularity it seemed essential to have that disc be within the standards if we were to achieve overall acceptance of the standards. That made the standard 1/16 of an inch. To pass the test, the edge of the disc had to fit into the gauge without the tip touching the bottom.

A High Level of Compliance

Reaction to the new standards was widely mixed, as expected. Most players were supportive because it didn't really affect them too dramatically. Some manufacturing companies were immediately supportive, recognizing that it would make production more predictable. Others, of course, resented any restrictions and preferred that the "market determine what was most desirable. " However, most observers realized that unbridled development toward more and more ballistic discs would soon take us away from the basic concept of Flying Saucers. Ultimately, there was almost complete compliance by the beginning of the next competitive season and the implementation of the standards was a success.

Do remember that all this was over 25 years ago. As disc sports grew in popularity and more and more manufacturers joined the industry, they all of course built their products right up to the limits of the existing standards. At that point, our discs were firmly positioned in the less-friendly third of sports objects. However, in many ways we all continued to imagine that we were still throwing Pluto Platters.

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Current specs for disc design can be seen in the PDGA Technical Standards document.

Modification Efforts

Some of us worried that there might be an unfortunate incident that would be very negative for all involved and create a significant backlash against the sport. To address the risk of that possibility, a couple of efforts were mounted to modify the nature of the discs in play.

In 1989, there was an effort to dial back one of the critical design components and an effort was begun to change the rim sharpness rating from 1/16" to 3/32". For various reasons, that effort never got traction, although there was significant sentiment in its favor.

A few late years later, in the mid-90s, came the creation of 150g class competition. This effort did have some success including various championships and a nation-wide adoption by the Japanese Flying Disc Association. However, the idea of 150 g competitions outside of Japan didn't continue. The significant side benefit of the effort was that, despite widespread pessimism about the performance of these lighter discs, most companies began to experiment with the less-weighty versions. These models soon found a significant clientele and typically remain as popular parts of most companies' offerings. Ironically, one of the initial concerns about 150 class was that the discs would not fly nearly as far as the heavier versions, but of course, it turns out the lighter discs have come to dominate distance competition. And, these days, it's not unusual to find a few of the lighter discs as part of many golf bags.

Part of what has been an underlying factor in all of these considerations has been the amazingly good safety record of disc sports in general. This record is especially impressive when one considers the wide range of activity that is taking place every single day. This includes everything from physical education classes to pick up Ultimate games, recreational disc golf and random picnic tossing. These days, there are undoubtedly many millions of disc throws every day around the world and most of them are made by people who are far from experts. Only a very small percentage are members of clubs and participate in formal competitions.

A New Factor

One later and unanticipated design component which was not initially controlled by the tech standards was that of rim width. That development was a surprise and it had a dramatic effect on disc performance. Not only did it affect how the discs flew, but also how they skipped and rolled. Beyond that, the wider rims also changed the overall structure of the discs, making them generally more rigid. In 2008, the PDGA established a maximum rim width of 2.6 cm, again having to take into account the existing models that had already been approved. In retrospect, that move was probably a bit late in terms of the most desirable structure for the discs and their ease of handling.

The Sustainability Initiative

In 2013, the PDGA board undertook a general evaluation of the long-term sustainability of disc golf. Many times when things are going very well for an endeavor it's difficult to look ahead. In a period of rapid growth, it's often challenging just to keep up with the pace of expansion. Because of that, the PDGA Board of Directors decided to put a special emphasis on this attempt to consider the potential challenges that lay ahead. The result of that evaluation was an identification of three main areas of effort that specifically related to the game itself. They are as follows:

  • Education
  • Courses
  • Equipment

Of these three, education is undoubtedly the most effective. Of course, it is always difficult to change well-established behaviors, but it is absolutely something that must be done. We need to fully address the current implications of our play, rather than pretending that we are still a completely harmless activity. When we look at sports that use extremely dangerous equipment, such as archery, we see that all participants are fully versed in the risks and their obligations. Clearly, our equipment is significantly less risky than arrows, but especially since we often play in the neighborhood of other park users, we would be wise to emulate the care which has been a hallmark of archery and other similar sports.

Of course, this education also includes the informing of the public and venues as to the nature of our activity. This is the reason for a much more robust effort to post informational signs in the areas that we use. That is only reasonable and fair. These informational signs are now being made available through the PDGA and other sources. It is critical that they are put into place where they are needed.

To further minimize risks, we also need to do a much better job of assuring that our courses and tournaments are using best design practice. We all know particular holes, courses, and even tournaments that are great fun to play, but simply are not adequately safe. As painful as it may be, those cases must be addressed. We will look to the course designer group to lead us in this effort, but it will require our collective resolve at all levels to make these necessary adjustments.

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Ultimately, we should recognize that the development of disc golf-only areas is a large part of our future. Ball golfers don't share their fairways with picnickers. If our sport is going to grow we need our own space. It is in our best interest to make that development a priority.

Changes to equipment are especially challenging because, although we are still a young sport, we have made many, many discs to the existing standards. And, there are only certain practical changes that can be made. Obviously, there would be greatly reduced risk if we played with 150 gram rubber Night Flyers, but that's not possible or desirable.

Because of the technical issues involved in these considerations, the PDGA will draw upon the experience of the Equipment Manufacturing Consortium to determine what, if any, modifications might be considered to the specifications for disc golf equipment in the future.

All of these efforts combine as we assume the responsibility of taking our place as an established sport rather than just an idle pastime.

This article was a collaboration between Dan "Stork" Roddick, Director of Special Projects for the PDGA Board of Directors & Brian Graham, PDGA Executive Director. 

Comments

Submitted by kdrossel on

Our local club was reviewing signage for safety reasons and ran into a case where we were told these signs opened up risks in lawsuits. That posting a notice of danger was making a statement you KNOW this is a hazard, and yet you allow it. Knowingly creating risk of injury. Was that considered in coming up with the content of the PDGA sign?

Submitted by Stork on

That's a good question to raise and yes, we have come across that concern. As we all know, there are many, many warning signs that we see every day from the wet floor in the restaurant to the parking area behind the ball diamond. A search on line shows the wide array. Ours are not unusual. The twists and turns of any legal matter are impossible to predict, but obviously, a claim can be made either way. You either didn't alert people or you did. Our position is a simple one and it is that we want to have our courses be set up in the most responsible way that is possible. It seems clear that it is more responsible to alert people to the fact that they are in an area where disc golf is being played. That is useful information and it doesn't seem fair to not let people know. Are we admitting that it's not a good idea to be hit by a flying disc? Yes, we are, but that seems obvious and it's true of virtually all sports projectiles. Thus, it seems like it is a responsible thing to remind both our players and others of that reality. The question is, which situation would you feel better about defending? One where we did alert people to potential risk or one where we did not? That answer drives our education effort and signage initiative.
Thanks for that useful question. 003

Submitted by NOVASully on

The elements of negligence are:

(1) Duty of care;
(2) A breach of that duty; that is the
(3) Causation of
(4) The plaintiff's damages.

Putting up a sign might concede (1), but it goes a long way toward satisfying (2). IOW, it says "hey, court, we understand we need to make people aware of the dangers inherent in any given activity in our park. So we posted signs to warn people about the risk of injury."

Submitted by Stork on

Sully,
Thanks for highlighting that important angle on the issue. In such things there are definitely many considerations. In taking on this initiative, our goal is a straightforward one and that is to help make disc golf in public areas work as well as possible for our players and other users of the space. It is our contention that the addition of appropriate signage moves us toward that goal, benefitting both players and the public. We also feel that similar signs posted for other activities reflect the same considerations. A search on images of various sports warning signs shows how well-established this precaution has become. Still, there’s no substitute for player discretion and intelligent course design. #003

Submitted by Rlyehable on

Number 1 (never throw into a blind area) will require a redesign of a great number (majority?) of courses. Most of the courses that I know have at least one pin in a position that cannot be seen from the tee (in summer with full leaved trees). A spotter is not always a possibility (i.e. casual solo play) or practical (the turn to the blind pin beyond the half-way point of the hole).

While I agree with the sentiment, they may not be practical

Submitted by Stork on

Rlyehable,
You’re absolutely correct that there is much work to be done. We believe that improvements can be made in a number of ways. We also realize that all
problems will not be solved by this initiative, but that doesn’t mean
that the effort shouldn’t be made. It’s important to educate players to
the realization that throwing into blind areas is risky behavior. Players
must learn to make whatever arrangements are needed to assure that their
landing area is clear. The fact that this may be inconvenient doesn’t
lessen our responsibility. If holes are badly designed, then we have to
address those holes. The magnitude of this challenge also continues to
point us toward the promising potential of developing more courses that
are in single-use areas. If we are to grow to the degree that we aspire,
we will need our own space. Ball golf got that done and so can we. #003

Submitted by cdamon on

The Flazer was a far-flying menace. You could practically shave with that thing. Even the makers knew it wasn't a realistic product, though it would have been an interesting experiment to see what a deregulated disc market would have said about it. (My guess is that they would have seen some short-term profit until the first death by golf disc, which would have done huge and irreparable damage to the sport.) I've always been amazed that the sport has been as successful as it has despite being played primarily in shared public spaces. Dedicated spaces (even if shared with golf) will almost certainly figure more and more prominently into the sport's future. If we combine that with player education and keep a close eye on tech standards and course design, the sport has a much better chance to accelerate its growth.

This article and discussion are excellent. Relevant and helpful.

The evolving performance and specification of discs is a big factor in course design, but not only due to safety concerns. Combined with players' increasing athleticism and skill , it also impacts the length, shape, and tightness of holes. A "big arm" course for Open Pros in the 1980s now plays moderately long (fairway drivers) for Advanced players and short (putters/mid-range) for the Pros.

For what it's worth, Jack Nicklaus says that golf ball performance has harmed the playability of traditional golf courses, and thus harmed the business and growth of the overall sport. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jack-nicklaus-blames-golf-ball-132904968.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma

Submitted by wilbs1999 on

Very good article! It made me think back to throwing my first disc in 1999 which was a DX Gazelle. Now a day with discs being more stable distance and accuracy has definitely improved. I can't wait to see what discs are like 20 years from now!

Terrific and necessary thread. Here's another view. A recent discussion with a certain 40 year Disc Golf veteran associated with a legendary So-Cal store (I'll let him speak for himself if he chooses too) had him offering the view that over 1000 of our courses should be CLOSED?!? That park courses are beyond merely a 'challenge' ie signage and responsible behavior etc....that they are in fact dangerously obsolete.

I do not agree...however, it does bring up the question. I believe that we need to do much more, especially on our park and other public courses. The proliferation of Ski Mountain courses increases the number of super long, fast and out of control throws for instance.

We may find that banning drivers makes sense for certain courses. I know...how do you enforce that? We may find that shortening holes or re-placing tees and baskets away from 'civilian paths' makes sense.

Whatever the future brings, it will most certainly involve more private land, more signage and more encouragement of responsible behavior. The sooner we 'get on it and get ahead of the curve' on safety the better.