Beat the course, not the player.



Or you can do both. :D:) :D

Good luck NC!!! Show everyone what NC is all about!!! BANG! BANG!

Before we get there I just wanna say thanks to all the okies for putting all they've got into this tourney. I have been waiting a long time for this, and I look forward to seeing what okie golf is like. See you guys tomorrow. peas

220 miles away...be there early tomorrow woot woot :D:D

A friend of mine is still looking for a partner for Mixed Dubs if any of you ladies are interested.

Who's friend wouldn't be?...Sword fightin' Dode fest

Hotel is not to bad. Need a ride to play. Call my cell phone (919)478-1870 or come by room 261 if you can give a couple of people a ride.



What about Nelle???

Does anyone know off the top of their head what the earliest you can check in on Monday would be?"

Nice weather up here tonight...what's all this 100 degree talk about? :D

will there be any preferred time during the week to get in a casual round if spectators are in town to check out the action?

will there be any preferred time during the week to get in a casual round if spectators are in town to check out the action?



http://www.2006amworlds.org/2006amworldsscheduleinvites.pdf

Here is a copy of the schedule. Doesn't look like there'll be any time before 5pm on any day available for casuals. Looks like on Tues after 5, you could play Haikey or Hunter. Wed after 5, McClure or Dovillio. Thurs and Fri, every course, after 5.

did she make it?

Who?

Live Oak's finest!

is any Round Rocker's in the house?

I don't think so. I was just askin' cuz he was namin' Discraft sponsored players...no women, of course, though! I'll check with Joe.

When is Edman and the Hovey's arriving?

I didn't think she was going to be able to make it. :(

Edman and laura I believe left yesterday so should be there. not sure on the hovey's.

A few of us are planning on playing a little poker at the host hotel this evening at 9pm.

We are gonna meet down in the little private dining area in the restaurant/bar area. I'll play Himing in heads up if I have to! LoL!

Played the hawks today, and really enjoyed them. Shot around even on Red and couple over on Black. Chris warf shot -4 on Red and Around even to -1 on Black .

The Triangle ate my putter/ :(

Had 10 people play poker in our little private dining area. Had a blast even though I went out on the bubble in 4th place. Thanks gang! It was fun.

Get in touch with Nikko if your looking for some more poker players tonight! He is with devan.

SuperGirl (Nicole) and Ariona are going to play doubles together in the U13 girls division. If anyone knows how to get in touch with the other U13 girls (Rebecca and Taylor), please tell them to sign up for doubles so the U13 girls can have a doubles division. I am not sure, but I think they need to signup today. The cost is $10 per girl and they play 2 rounds of doubles on Monday.

Thanks.......Rick

Hey! A lot of folks have been asking about playing more poker...

...Here's what I think I'd like to organize for any interested poker players - Wednesday night in the private party area say 9:30. Texas hold em tourney style (get there between 9:00 and 9:30) - seating is limited to about 14 max.

Well, finally got full permission from my beautiful, VERY pregnant wife to come on over. So looks like the last of the Arkie herd is finally ready to roll out to TULSA. C-Ya soon!!

Its not about winning, or even schooling your buddies. For me it's about reaching your goals. My goals:
Haikey=52
Hunter=49
Dovillio=50
Mcclure=48
Blackhawk=57
Redhawk =51
Total = 307
Good luck to everyone in T-town this week!!!
See you in Tulsa.........

Its not about winning, or even schooling your buddies. For me it's about reaching your goals. My goals:
Haikey=52
Hunter=49
Dovillio=50
Mcclure=48
Blackhawk=57
Redhawk =51
Total = 307
Good luck to everyone in T-town this week!!!
See you in Tulsa.........


How many scoobies are you going to throw?

Its not about winning, or even schooling your buddies. For me it's about reaching your goals. My goals:
Haikey=52
Hunter=49
Dovillio=50
Mcclure=48
Blackhawk=57
Redhawk =51
Total = 307
Good luck to everyone in T-town this week!!!
See you in Tulsa.........

I think your gonna have to shoot a little better at Mcclure and blackhawk.

That **** Redhawk keep's on kicking my *** I have played it 3 time's and my best is a 54 :mad:

Blackhawk is BRUTAL if your game isn't totally on! Love it!

If you ain't here, you are missing no less than the best experience in the world. The Tulsa crew has done the PDGA proud already and the play hasn't even started. Total Kudos to all who helped to get this event in the air.

The brand new courses are SWWEET!!!!!

Thanks,
Kendall

Good luck Jolly, Wop, Bergy, EasyG, GaryC, Trav, Buttercup and the rest.

Bring it home again.

I want wop, Gough, and Jeb on the lead card.

the hawks cannot be harder than the courses in Charlotte, you boys got the advantage.

oh yeah and watch out for the MoneyShot!!!

Lefties blow.

Lefties blow.





Watch it Berd. :D:) :D

Does anyone know what time the 2nd round at hunter starts tmorrow?

1 PM

Thanks Team Tulsa! We went through the players check-in and what did they give us? They gave all the women and junior gals six, very beautiful long-stemmed roses in a vase. And then at the players meeting last night, they had all of us go up to the front and they gave us each boxes of really cool PartyLite candles and candle holders. And today after our first round, top Pros Des Reading and Courtney Peavy are going to have a meet and greet, Q & A, games, and instruction.

Wow Tulsa! Thanks for making us women feel so very special and welcome! You rock!

Good Luck to all TEXANS in attendance.

Texans in the House :D

come on beck you spoiled us in DM

someone has to return the favor.

thanks again for '04

Anybody heard any scores yet? Watch out for Little Will S. in 16 in under boys.................. He just turned 14, Represent K-Town Big Daddy!!!

Any scores yet? The first round just started 39 minutes ago!

Mixed and Junior doubles results posted in the PDGA Announcements thread.

Anyone know the format/course used for Mixed doubles.... I see the 2nd round was alt shot at McClure, what about the first?

This just in from T-Town, " Handsom Rob " Lowry from austin shot 6 under his first round. Go Texas !

SCORES????? :o


WHAT'S UP B-BOP :cool:

am mixed doubs was dovillio than mcclure
jr mixed dubs was mcclure than dovolio

Steve Parker from Carrollton is tied for the lead in the Adv masters division. (abet only after one round)

3 of the top 4 in adv masters are from TEXAS

Link to scores:

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5513

The Austin folk look like they're doing just fine!

Shout out to my boys Hal and Wop. Keep it up Sean Golf and Brian Jones! Use that thumber Jolly and get back up in there! :D

1045 is ok I guess

Come on Chris Howard, acclimate to the Okie weather already.

3 of the top 4 in adv masters are from TEXAS

I saw some folks bragging about the top ams from Michigan too. So what are we playing for here, the right to be called the Bagger State? :D

Anyone know the format/course used for Mixed doubles.... I see the 2nd round was alt shot at McClure, what about the first?




Mixed Dubs - First Round - Best Shot at Dovillio
- Second Round - Alternate Shot at McClure

Same format for Juniors, only they played McClure first.

any one play redhawk today what did you shoot if you did. i shot a 60 not sure how thats gonna hold up in 16 and under. im thinking about 17th

what happend to Owens ? penaltys or something? hope to see you all saturday and good luck. :cool:

Bergey look nice in B and don't forget Henry C.

Lets go Texans. Jack Tabor Tooth Tiger and Steve Valet Parker!! Kick it up and have a great time and know we are with ya. :cool:

great job getting the scores up!!!! thanks!! tear it up all my texas bros!!!!!!!!! :D

Jerry shoots a 56 on Black Hawk, should be a pretty good move up the board. :D

Bergey look nice in B and don't forget Henry C.



I told Bergey, I don't want to have to use the scroll function. He seems to be complying.

Just check out all the people from Austin at or near the top.
Now, bring it on home !!! :D

Well, it looks like NC is in pretty good shape after the first day. Keep it up fellas!!! Bring it home!!! :D

Way to throw down lil' Wigglins! Same with you C.Warf! Keep feeling confident about your skills and have fun out there!

Look out for some of the CO players. so far we have several near the top. Keep it up guys.

Adv. Masters Steve Hardyman, Rob Liebman
Adv. Pat Blazek, Dash Harrison

some more can still make a move, it's a long week!

The masters have been shuffled and Jerry is in the lead. Keep it up man!

keep it up super girl!!!

keep it up jerry :cool:Cody Rodgers bring something home old man :D

I want to give a quick shout out to the only El Paso rep at the tourney, Alex Bachicha. Nice 2nd round to get back in the mix, and make sure you represent. Also, Effrain, keep it up man!!! ;) ;) ;)

Scratch that, I mean Erron! Oops, but Effrain you keep sending your bro the good vibes.

MichiGAN showin everyone how to play!!! Play on Kuehle, Tucker, bring 1 home!!!!

NC showin how its done leading in 4 divisions!
Bring it home Krall, Warf, Wiggins jr and Coggin!!!

CW prefers to be called "Buttercup"! :D

Tear it up NC'ers!!!! Looking good guys and gal!

Jollygreen, Gopher and Howie better get their heads out of their bums!

How cool would it be to be 11yo, and be a back to back to back World Champion. Always impressed with the job you have done Wiggie Sr., keep it up. Good Luck everyone!!!!

nice day 1 Naved.....keep it up bro

Updated scores through round two:

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5513

There are 72 slots in the F pool, why aren't they all being filled? (I see that there are a bunch of ties for the next slots, but nonetheless, the F pool should be filled with 72 players...especially when shuffling pools after only 2 rounds.) Hope this doesn't happen in Advanced too! The remaining 4 slots in F pool should be given to somebody...heck - go by order of registration date or something. But fill those slots!

David Vance is looking for another world championship to bring home to GTDG. worlds doubles and now 1 stroke behind the lead. Go git em dirty dave! we are rooting for ya.
jarrod Martinez is holding his own in jrs - have fun buddy.
Good luck to all the texans playing this week - represent!

Nope. The policy is to not break ties unless the number of players tied is so high that the pools would be very unbalanced (say 70 and 54). The Master split is 70 and 65 which is just fine. The only tiebreaker available for the shuffle is PDGA number which is felt to be a weak way to split ties by the Competition Directors. You cannot use previous rounds as a tiebreaker because players who are tied played different courses for their last rounds which many times have different SSAs.

Go Austin; Go Texas; Go Waterlooooooooooooo :D

"At the quarter pole, it's Jerry Power by a neck."

Keep it up Jerry!!!

Boy, with this many pools for the advanced guys and not knowing the courses, it's hard to tell who are the frontrunners. I figure Ian is still in contention, but my hope of Lou Moreno winning it all has been dashed. Or should I say shattered. :p

Ian looks to be in a good spot (as do all of the high ranking TX/OK pools players), with the two easy courses coming up today.

There are 72 slots in the F pool, why aren't they all being filled? (I see that there are a bunch of ties for the next slots, but nonetheless, the F pool should be filled with 72 players...especially when shuffling pools after only 2 rounds.) Hope this doesn't happen in Advanced too! The remaining 4 slots in F pool should be given to somebody...heck - go by order of registration date or something. But fill those slots!




The slots are not filled because only 136 players registered for Advanced Masters. Technically, 144 could have played in this division. Seems illogical to add players once two rounds have been played.

Great shooting Blake Baumgardner :DTexas is well represented :D

Boy, with this many pools for the advanced guys and not knowing the courses, it's hard to tell who are the frontrunners.



If you look at actual total scores for the two rounds (not the over/under par), it's very close to the correct order already across all four pools because the sum of SSAs for both sets of courses is almost exactly the same total of 101 for Tuesday. Hunter and Haikey added together played the same as McClure and Dovillio added together.

Well, if that is the case then those three guys from what I'll call the midwest pool, and Locostro (sp) from the midwest are the current frontrunners. As a fan, I need Rodney's odds and some real gambling to add a little more spice to this event. ;)

tear it up today Ian!!!

Where's the round 3 scores?? Did MichiGAN continue it's domination?

Relax DS, I am sure they are getting the scores in as soon as they can. Go back to your outhouse for another hour or two, come back and they should be there. :D

Look out!!!!!! here come them Texas boys

Ian Hovey looks like he playing some smoking hot golf.
TEXAS, OUR TEXAS ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY STATE!

Here are the aces so far:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Steve Dufrane</td><td>MM1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Redhawk</td><td>17
</td></tr><tr><td>Keith Forshee</td><td>MA1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Dovillio</td><td>8
</td></tr><tr><td>Evan McKee</td><td>MA1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Hunter</td><td>16
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Hey Chuck- what do you think the projected cut line will be?



I say even..... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Here are the aces so far:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Steve Dufrane</td><td>MM1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Redhawk</td><td>17
</td></tr><tr><td>Keith Forshee</td><td>MA1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Dovillio</td><td>8
</td></tr><tr><td>Evan McKee</td><td>MA1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Hunter</td><td>16
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>



Crap, now we'll have to listen to Steve talk about his Worlds Ace....

:)

Roll with it Ian! Lou, Austin is behind you. Oh, one more thing
ROUND ROCK

Here are the aces so far:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Steve Dufrane</td><td>MM1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Redhawk</td><td>17
</td></tr><tr><td>Keith Forshee</td><td>MA1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Dovillio</td><td>8
</td></tr><tr><td>Evan McKee</td><td>MA1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Hunter</td><td>16
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>



Crap, now we'll have to listen to Steve talk about his Worlds Ace....

:)



Funny Bender! I saw that and said the same thing....it's not like Dufrane doesn't have enough to talk about already...someone get some duct tape!!!!!!

you all listen to what he says?
I know when he TRYS to talk to me...I just look at him like one of my kids asking for money

Crap, now we'll have to listen to Steve talk about his Worlds Ace....





Just imagine what it's like to be here too TB! :D He's too hot to handle with his new little Miata convertible! Glad the car has a better muffler system.

Here are the aces so far:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Steve Dufrane</td><td>MM1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Redhawk</td><td>17
</td></tr><tr><td>Keith Forshee</td><td>MA1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Dovillio</td><td>8
</td></tr><tr><td>Evan McKee</td><td>MA1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Hunter</td><td>16
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>



Crap, now we'll have to listen to Steve talk about his Worlds Ace....

:)



Funny Bender! I saw that and said the same thing....it's not like Dufrane doesn't have enough to talk about already...someone get some duct tape!!!!!!


Well, if GUY BUYAN hits one , the whole darn state of Oklahoma will know it!

Update so far today:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Steve Dufrane</td><td>MM1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Redhawk</td><td>17
</td></tr><tr><td>Keith Forshee</td><td>MA1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Dovillio</td><td>8
</td></tr><tr><td>Evan McKee</td><td>MA1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Hunter</td><td>16
</td></tr><tr><td>Barney Davis</td><td>MJ1</td><td>Wed</td><td>Whitehawk</td><td>7
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Well, if GUY BUYAN hits one , the whole darn state of Oklahoma will know it!



And so will Texas, Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas...

:)

Let's be honest...... The continential U.S.

SSNNNNNAAAAAAAPPPPPP!

And Mexico.

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Here are the aces so far:
Steve Dufrane MM1 Tues Redhawk 17

Keith Forshee MA1 Tues Dovillio 8

Evan McKee MA1 Tues Hunter 16





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Crap, now we'll have to listen to Steve talk about his Worlds Ace....




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Funny Bender! I saw that and said the same thing....it's not like Dufrane doesn't have enough to talk about already...someone get some duct tape!!!!!!



At least you guys didn't have to play the second round with him. :D:D

It is an interesting story :D Steve is a great guy to play with, it gives the guys who have played with him an advantage to the ones who have not on the card. :D :D

...The only tiebreaker available for the shuffle is PDGA number which is felt to be a weak way to split ties by the Competition Directors...



Weak? I believe this to be the best once (Hot round is exhausted). Doesn't MEMBERSHIP mean ANYTHING!? :confused:

nice namefor the pool G leader

"Rick Coon #$*&amp;$! Fleming"

whoa! i cannot even write the guy'sname who isleading the pool!

NICE!

do not ever let anyone tell you it is the message board that is tarnishing our image :)the board is tougher than the list of players :D

I never thought there could be a worse PDGA name than Joe 'Lick Me' Proud (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=2773), but leading the Advanced Masters is:
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>Rick 'Coon #$*&$!' Fleming. </pre><hr />


PDGA Amateur Disc Golf World Championships Unofficial Results (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5513&amp;year=2006&amp;incl udeRatings=1#Advanced)

Edit: Darn you Sandlaman, you beat me to it!

hey, us admins hafta be quick on the draw :cool:

GO AZ!! watch out for the new kid in AZ--Paul Ulibarri. Also representing AZ is David "Toad" Neff--make us proud!!

Yah, Russ what's up with this guy Paul. Is he a newbie to the game? Go AZ!!!

What happened to Lund?

Chad!! Whatsup? Man this Paul kid has been kicking all of our so-called "Pros" *****, even Dano. He's only 17, and he lives in the pinetop/snowflake area. He's currently in 2nd in our Cactus league, and he will definately make the team that goes to San Diego. He says he will move up after Worlds. He's already turned down alot of cash, even in non-pdga events.

Good to see you're still alive, hope you're still golfing.

looks like the shuffle has happened.

NC reppin the A pool with 5 playas

gosh, the <10 boys is more competitive than MA1! :D

Always impressed with the job you have done Wiggie Sr



Thanks Craig! today I had a world class disc golf drive, meaning of course that I drove 3 leaders in their division of the World Championships to their morning round :cool:All from North Carolina, of course!

PS we've shortened CW's nick to "Butter" cause his form is as smooth as butter ;)

NC is rockin fo sho!

looks like texas has the overwhleming majority of the old talent though (so far) :)

keep it up super girl and Jerry P. lets go chris brooks and Deatra.... and of course its time to play some golf ROUND ROCK

Chad!! Whatsup? Man this Paul kid has been kicking all of our so-called "Pros" *****, even Dano. He's only 17, and he lives in the pinetop/snowflake area. He's currently in 2nd in our Cactus league, and he will definately make the team that goes to San Diego. He says he will move up after Worlds. He's already turned down alot of cash, even in non-pdga events.

Good to see you're still alive, hope you're still golfing.


Man, the kids are killing us these days. They have no fear and usually lots of confidence. Anyhow, will hope to see you at the Tumbleweed (I'll actually be going). Haven't been playing much golf, but hope to get back to it soon. Army makes it hard sometimes.

Where's the round 3 scores?? Did MichiGAN continue it's domination?



I had to go back 3 pages just to see anything about Michigan...and no one replied??? Two in the top 10 including 1st by 6 Strokes!!!!

Come on people.

A new champion will be crowned. Michigan golf is in full force, and 3/4ers of our Good players are still at home.

:D
1 G Rick Coon #$*&amp;$! Fleming 19878 940 55 59 67 +7 181


Great nickname! Copy and pasted straight from the pdga tour results page.

Tabor just a few out of Powers in Masters and Jeremy O hanging tight in Advanced..nice shooting guys..Soules is up there also?? :D

keep it up texas golfers!!!!! keep rep'n..Wish I could have been there!!

Way to shoot one of the hot rounds in your division today, Rob Lee(bro). 4th card and moving on up to the North side. 10 strokes is nothing with that many rounds left. Leave it all on the course...

Go Lubbock. Jon Lee on the comeback trail as well.

3 of the top 10 (plus ties) are from Texas
4th Ian Hovey
8th Blake Baumgardner
10th Billy Moody

Other Texas A Pool players

19th Eddie Coffey
35th Armando Gordo Garcia III
35th Brandon Smitheal
39th Erron Salazar
39th Scott Coleman
46th Tom Langley
46th Chris Leifeste
50th Glenn Bo Neill
50th Andy Newberry
61st Guy Boyan

our advanced Women

15th Michele Williams
20th Laura Hovey
24th Misti Kingston

Texas own top 10 Adv Masters

1st Jerry Power
4th Mark McCrimmon
5th Don Quattlebaum
5th Jack Tabor

out top Women Adv Masters

2nd De'Atra Hunter
8th Kimberly Kosina
10th Susan Macaluso

Texas own Grand Masters

6th Lawrence Nance
12th Walter S. Rayburn

Our Woman Grand Master

1st Patricia Stallman

Texas Senior Grand Master

2nd Jim Yount


Under 16 boys

7th Chris Brooks

Under 13 boys

5th Jarred Martinez
7th Cavan Power

And last,

Our own Super Girl under 13

1st Nicole Cazares

Tear it up Jeff and bring that title back to Brewer home of the big arms.

Keep it up Mr. Wiggins, I am sure everyone is grateful for the assistance and support. The shortened name makes sense. When I thought of the original for Chris, it was right after I realized he was as young as he is (AM Crosstown, we were tied for the start of the third round). He missed a shot, finally, and he looked dissapointed. I looked him in the eye, kind of bummed I was being taken stroke for stroke by him, and said something along the lines of "Suck it up, Buttercup! You got many more years to make that one." He had a chuckle about it, and it stuck ever since. :D:D:D

Go NC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It'll be interesting to see who wins the distance competition....with about 100 guys at worlds who can throw well over 550ft. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Shout out to Will S. lighting it up in the 16 and under division. Shot a 983 hot round to get in a three-way tie for 1st. Keep it up.

NC showin how its done leading in 4 divisions!
Bring it home Krall, Warf, Wiggins jr and Coggin!!!



Can someone please give a list of the real names of all the NC players? I'd like to track them, but I don't know the nicknames used here. If you can give the nicknames too, matched to the player that would help.

NC players at worlds

Pool A
14th Matt Smith
24th Jeb Bryant
24th Caleb Wood
29th Anthony Adinolfi
50th Henry Childress
Pool B
11th Sean Gough
22nd Chris Howard
22nd Brian Jones
51st Fred Jarrett
Pool C
31st Rob Brown
49th Travis Grindle
Pool D
3rd Paul Bergey
Pool E
11th Babette Martin
Pool G
7th Gary Carmichael
17th Mack Jones
Pool H
4th Stuart Krall
22nd Doug Silngleton
49th (granmasters) Rocky Geist
7th (snr grandmasters) Lee Minehart
8th (snr grandmasters) Roger Crooks
Pool J
19 and under
2. Chris Warf
Girls 16 and Under
2. Dawn Geist
13 and Under
1. Dave WIggins Jr.
10 and Under
1. Andrew Coggins

NC showin how its done leading in 4 divisions!
Bring it home Krall, Warf, Wiggins jr and Coggin!!!



Can someone please give a list of the real names of all the NC players? I'd like to track them, but I don't know the nicknames used here. If you can give the nicknames too, matched to the player that would help.



Those we not nicknames... they were last names. :eek:

NC showin how its done leading in 4 divisions!
Bring it home Krall, Warf, Wiggins jr and Coggin!!!



Can someone please give a list of the real names of all the NC players? I'd like to track them, but I don't know the nicknames used here. If you can give the nicknames too, matched to the player that would help.



Those we not nicknames... they were last names. :eek:



Krall Grandmaster
Warf 19 under
Wiggins 13 under
Coggin 10 under

: ) :

congrats to the warden, side arm aces are just too cool. (thats all your gonna get from me dufrane - when you gonna drive that miata down to the gtdg to play kleins redesign?) I also heard one of the stallman bros hit an ace though I haven't seen it posted. Keep up the play TEXAS, lots of golf left with even more wiggle room to make some moves.

Kris and Nathan had simultaneous aces at Hunter as their first throws of the round.

<table border="1"><tr><td> Name</td><td>Division</td><td>Day</td><td>Course</td><td>Hole No.
</td></tr><tr><td>Steve Dufrane</td><td>MM1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Redhawk</td><td>17
</td></tr><tr><td>Keith Forshee</td><td>MA1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Dovillio</td><td>8
</td></tr><tr><td>Evan McKee</td><td>MA1</td><td>Tues</td><td>Hunter</td><td>16
</td></tr><tr><td>Barney Davis</td><td>MJ1</td><td>Wed</td><td>Whitehawk</td><td>7
</td></tr><tr><td>Paul Ulibarri</td><td>MA1</td><td>Wed</td><td>McClure</td><td>2
</td></tr><tr><td>Adam Stallman</td><td>MA1</td><td>Wed</td><td>McClure</td><td>4
</td></tr><tr><td>Kris Allen</td><td>MA1</td><td>Wed</td><td>Hunter</td><td>3
</td></tr><tr><td>Nathan Facine</td><td>MA1</td><td>Wed</td><td>Hunter</td><td>8
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

thanks for the update chuck. kneel martinez is saying he'll get an ace at redhawk with 9 ace runs in a row. we'll see. good luck kneel. Jarrod, keep up the good play lilbro have fun and soak up the experience. wish I could be there instead of working here in denver. ...maybe next year. work sux when there is golf to be played.

Don't forget Ant Gale, Adv. Masters.....AKA Parman.

Also want to prop my southern brother Mark Muren.

I knew there would be someone I would forget.

Sorry Ant!

MTL,

Wow! Thanks for the detailed info, less than half an hour after I made the request! Good job!

I aim to please

And besides, I figure if I'm at work I might as well do some work.

Is anybody else having trouble getting any work done ?
It is driving me nuts , knowing all of my locals are having the time of their life's ! Any body down for a MASS WORK BOYCOTT? Carpool to Tulsa anybody?

Is anybody else having trouble getting any work done ?
It is driving me nuts , knowing all of my locals are having the time of their life's ! Any body down for a MASS WORK BOYCOTT? Carpool to Tulsa anybody?


I hear ya there! I had this tourney on my radar since they announced it...but due to life's circumstances I'm relegated to spectatin'! It's still fun, though... :cool:

Where's the round 3 scores?? Did MichiGAN continue it's domination?



I had to go back 3 pages just to see anything about Michigan...and no one replied??? Two in the top 10 including 1st by 6 Strokes!!!!

Come on people.

A new champion will be crowned. Michigan golf is in full force, and 3/4ers of our Good players are still at home.



Noone wants to think about a MichiGANder taking the title away from NC!! Nice Ace Face!! And ooooweeee Jeff Kuehle beating the snot out of EVERYONE!!! Keep it up MI! ZV, nothing against Brent, but tell Tucker to turn it up and grab 2nd. I'm sure Brent would be happy with 3rd :D:D

Looks like Jerry will maintain his position in Masters and his World Doubles partner Don Q will join him on the lead card. :)

Go Don Q. Z-Boaz course crew is rootin' for you! Bring home the win for Laura and your new baby girl!
Lay off the iced tea!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All you masters, watch out. He will throw left handed!

Maybe I am looking at the results wrong but I dont see any NC golfers on the leader card, if the Michigander takes it from anyone it will be a Texan because Ian has SERIOUS game and can make up 9 strokes in 4 rounds easy especially on a technical course like Blackhawk.My prediction is that Ian is going to take the title and go to Augusta and cash. Tear it up kid.

3 of the top 10 (plus ties) are from Texas
4th Ian Hovey
8th Blake Baumgardner
10th Billy Moody




Not just from Texas; all three are from AUSTIN!!! :D

Way to go y'all, keep on tearing it up. :D

I bet more NC'ers would be in the top ten if they were underage, and didn't follow the example's set by their idols, TTeam TTrim! :o;) :D

Billy Moody is originally from Tulsa. Keep it up Billy.

It's also pretty much official now that all you AM's are going to have to play with Discpimples again for another year! :o:D Just ribbing ya Steve!

Keep it up - the whole Bougher clan looks to be playing well! Hutch could soon prove that he is the greatest bagger of all time if he can pull of a win at worlds.
Hang in there Lund, Moody, MC, & Thong. Shout out to my boys Brandon and Lou. Let's go Ian, give those baggers hell.

Hutch could soon prove that he is the greatest bagger of all time if he can pull of a win at worlds.




Not even close

Billy Moody is originally from Tulsa. Keep it up Billy.


out of curiosity did he petition to regain AM status??? :confused:

I really hope so (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=11034&year=2004)

Me too (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=11034&year=2003) :D

no kiddin, he's taken cash almost every year. :D;

Hutch...if he can pull of a win at worlds.



Not happening. 3rd is definately a possibility.

Billy Moody has cashed as a pro, what a bagger. He must have a low players rating Cash as a pro should always be a pro

Billy Moody has cashed as a pro, what a bagger. He must have a low players rating Cash as a pro should always be a pro



player rating doesnt matter for all majors.

You could be rated 190 and have accepted one dollar in PDGA play and yeah you could play whatever division you want in PDGA play, but for worlds, you have to have never accepted any cash to play.

This is some crap that this guy is playing. His excuse will be "my rating is low enough"

Maybe he has a prosthetic appendage or something now.

Why even have a players rating, thats all BS.

maybe it has something to do with him cashing in doubles tournaments (w/ kevin mccoy, co-td of am worlds, as his partner) and there is an exception there.......I don't think it's right or I would be there now, my rating is lower than his but they wouldn't let me play..........pretty much BS that he is playing.

yeah i noticed that too will.

he cashed in singles as well

Billy Moody has cashed as a pro, what a bagger. He must have a low players rating Cash as a pro should always be a pro


This guy hasn't played a PDGA tournament as an AM since '01. He has also won over $500 as a pro. How does he get to play AM worlds?

maybe the PDGA will answer that same question. nothing against Billy he is a great guy all he did was sign up its up to the PDGA to verify if players are eligible. but I am curious to what the PDGA BOD has to say

Not really. I don't know the guy, so I am not gonna be nice and say he didn't do something wrong. He signed up, and he shouldn't have. He is an established pro, cashing many times, and now he is playing in an am event. The PDGA may have made an oversite by letting him play, but he knew what he was doing when he signed up. That is not right.

Not really. I don't know the guy, so I am not gonna be nice and say he didn't do something wrong. He signed up, and he shouldn't have. He is an established pro, cashing many times, and now he is playing in an am event. The PDGA may have made an oversite by letting him play, but he knew what he was doing when he signed up. That is not right.



see I disagree with this.

I'm thinking he probably misunderstood the ratings rule and thought it applied to all am events, which it does not. This falls solely on the PDGA.

Billy Moody is one KEWL cat! Nicest guy you'll ever meet. Over the years, i've never seen anyone bring more dates to disc golf events. He's the real DG PIMP!

This is a PDGA boo-boo though. Billy must not have understood the small print. He certainly isn't the type of person that looks to take advantage of people. I guess he'll have to deny the cash......er......i mean PLASTIC! :D

Go Billy Go!

I would have no problem with him being refunded his money. Like John said, this is a PDGA error.

However, I feel he should have to immediatly stop playing this event. Not fair to true amatuers at all.

Glad to hear that someone like MyHero speaks for his integrity. I am sure you are right then, that he just did not understand the fine print.
Seems this kind of thing would be easy to catch- but having never come close to running a major I really have no idea...

Man, I shoulda signed up again! :D

If you guys are really concerned and want to take action, you should email The Commish and The Competition Director *now*, and maybe even call PDGA HQ and ask them to forward the message. I'm betting most of the BOD and all of the Staff are either at Tulsa and/or prepping for Augusta so one will notice any messages posted on here.

Accepting cash, playing as an Am................... Tisk, Tisk. This could get really messy. Think about the guy who is 73rd @ the cut, if he could have played but did not, and finds out after the fact........ Messy! If this issue is not addressed soon , that could be the issue that ruins 06 am worlds. I would hate to see that happen to the TD, Kevin McCoy, Mike Conners and all the Tulsa Crew. They have put their heart and souls into making this the BEST Am Worlds, to have that tarnished by an oversight, that would be awful.....

Accepting cash, playing as an Am................... Tisk, Tisk. This could get really messy. Think about the guy who is 73rd @ the cut, if he could have played but did not, and finds out after the fact........ Messy! If this issue is not addressed soon , that could be the issue that ruins 06 am worlds. I would hate to see that happen to the TD, Kevin McCoy, Mike Conners and all the Tulsa Crew. They have put their heart and souls into making this the BEST Am Worlds, to have that tarnished by an oversight, that would be awful.....


If that's how you really fell you should try to do something about it today.

Currently contacting my man in Tulsa. For all of you out there that think this is B.S. please reference the Riverside Glide 02- he took 25 dollars in the open division for his winnings. You can now throw away the DOUBLES argument!

Billy Moody petitioned to return to Am status and it was granted. So he's legit for this event in terms of policy.

Billy Moody petitioned to return to Am status and it was granted. So he's legit for this event in terms of policy.



Go Billy Go!!!! :D

Billy Moody petitioned to return to Am status and it was granted. So he's legit for this event in terms of policy.



thanks Chuck

...let the flood of petitions begin.

what a crock.

imo reclassified players have no business in the majors, too bad that policy changed.

agreed

So be it! Just one more Texan @ the top of the field!
All hail the mighty state!

Thanks Chuck!

Billy Moody petitioned to return to Am status and it was granted. So he's legit for this event in terms of policy.





chuck when did this happen? and why is he registered as a pro for 06?

I don't know the details, nor did Gentry, but he confirmed that it happened. Just passing the info along.

....don't kill the messenger. :p

ok thanks as long as he was not granted AM status this year otherwise he needs to wait 1 year!!!!

He has been registered as a pro for years.........
Does seem a little wierd! Perhaps some people get their proverbial cake, and eat it also!
But, if PDGA has granted him AM status, so be it.
Billy will be the one whom has to look himself in the face every morning, not us !

any updates on this??

Hey Chris, mabey we should petition to return to rec. status. I am running a little low on plastic! :D

When are they holding the Rec World Championships? You could overlay a disc golf course on a Putt-Putt facility..... SWEET!

Jesus Christo. Y'all are complaining about a guy rated 939!!!!!!!! Yeah, he shouldn't be allowed to play cause he actually has balls and played open, while all those other guys rated much, much higher than him ducked the competition, or declined money so they could kick donkey on lower competition. Yeah, Billy's a real villian here.

They guy is rated 939 and playing well for his ability. People should be congratulating him, not taking cheap shots.

ps. I barely know him, so this is not some leave-my-buddy-alone rant.

No cheap shots here . The PDGA has made their ruling, thats final! There is always haters when you are that close to the top!

while all those other guys rated much, much higher than him ducked the competition, or declined money so they could kick donkey on lower competition.


Those guys will always get what's coming to them, its called karma!

939 is close to the top?

Disc golf's divisional structure is meaningless. A 939 rated player playing at Am Worlds is doing nothing wrong. He is merely competing with a lot of his peers, and many people better than him.

James, I agree! But the common mind set amongst disc golfers is that once you recieve cash ( @ a sanctioned event ) , you are a pro...... That is going to be a tough sell amongst the masses.

Maybe I am looking at the results wrong but I dont see any NC golfers on the leader card,



3 NC golfers in the top 15 after 5 rounds. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

and only 13 strokes off the lead :o

Chad!! Whatsup? Man this Paul kid has been kicking all of our so-called "Pros" *****, even Dano. He's only 17, and he lives in the pinetop/snowflake area. He's currently in 2nd in our Cactus league, and he will definately make the team that goes to San Diego. He says he will move up after Worlds. He's already turned down alot of cash, even in non-pdga events.

Good to see you're still alive, hope you're still golfing.


Man, the kids are killing us these days. They have no fear and usually lots of confidence. Anyhow, will hope to see you at the Tumbleweed (I'll actually be going). Haven't been playing much golf, but hope to get back to it soon. Army makes it hard sometimes.




This Paul kid definately has none. He bangs long putts all day, without any care for the comebackers. I noticed that he also aced today.....excuse while I look for my wheelchair.


The Tumbleweed is going to be great. One of the best courses I've played. Make sure to book a room now if you're staying at the hotel, which I HIGHLY recommend. Ya playin pro still? hope so, that's where I will be. See ya there!!

and only 13 strokes off the lead :o



Good math!

Hey Russ, it's funny to just sit and watch your avatar bang his head to a pulp. I can watch it over and over again! WIll be staying across the street from the resort, but I am sure we'll hang out. Still contemplating pro vs adv since I have been out of the disc picture for awhile and unlike this Moody Dude, I have not cashed in Pro. That all seems a little fishy whether he is a nice guy or not. May give incentive to others to do the same, which I don't quite agree with. :p

Does anyone know what score the cutoff will be for advanced men's division?

72 to make Semis but prizes will go deeper than that.

This is a Bumps classic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbZR0kiAeCM&search=nwa

Thanks Chuck. How many make the finals?

Billy Moody is a great guy and one of the reasons Tulsa has soo many courses. He owns/use to own 9/18 baskets and would install them at a new course untill the club raised the cash for the course. Then he would move his baskets to another place.

He has also been active in teaching kids the art of disc golf.

He also use to live across the street from McClure.

i use to play Advance with him in the early 90's.

He was always one very laid back dude.

Hey Russ, it's funny to just sit and watch your avatar bang his head to a pulp. I can watch it over and over again! WIll be staying across the street from the resort, but I am sure we'll hang out. Still contemplating pro vs adv since I have been out of the disc picture for awhile and unlike this Moody Dude, I have not cashed in Pro. That all seems a little fishy whether he is a nice guy or not. May give incentive to others to do the same, which I don't quite agree with. :p


This is exactly why the P.D.G.A. has a process in which a Pro can once again play as an Am. If they can't compete at a Pro level and don't except cash anymore then, they should be allowed to play at an Am level. I do personally believe that if they show the potential to play Pro again then, they should. Can I get a clarification on my last statement from the P.D.G.A., Rhett ?

The banging hands and head into keyboard avatar has gone
around awhile but, I still watch and chuckle when I see it. :D

Does anyone know what happened to the four under 13 boys that all carded a 100 that last round ??Were they stroked or something ??? One of them is a local boy &amp; many of us were wondering because he was playing very well. Thanks, Kevin

That 100 is a temporary score for those boys until their scorecard is found or turned in.

Thanks.

What is funny is 2 out of top 15 are playing where their rating says they should be !!! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

where the field events today??

Chuck or David,
also still wondering when B Moody asked for AM status????

This guy played advance in the early 90's he should be playing open by now.


Bring the title home to the best disc golf state Michigan
go Jeff and finish strong Zach.

Does anyone know what happened to the four under 13 boys that all carded a 100 that last round ??Were they stroked or something ??? One of them is a local boy & many of us were wondering because he was playing very well. Thanks, Kevin



As I have been told, the card was turned in and was witnessed by several staff personnal, but they cannot find it. Until the scores can be determined, I am guessing they will use 100 as place holders.

Anyone got them?

Billy Moody is a disgrace to the great state of Texas, he better stay am for life that BAGGER!!!!!!

Give me a break Chile. Also, it's kind of funny seeing ams criticize him when they apparently haven't played open, yet are rated higher than him.

Seems to me, we should like it when people play above their level. You know, when a 939 player plays open. The sport needs more people like that. Why the hell does it bother y'all now that he has chosen to play at level of his rating?

If we must spew some venom at people, why not reserve it for those that never chose to play in a division where they are challenged, and continue to duck the competition and beat up on inferiors time and time again. Mr. Moody hardly fits that description.

Good statement James!

yes nice James now play above your level and quit hiding in masters :eek: :D:p

probably because it is the AM World Championships :confused:, is it really fair that Niko had to turn down big cash at a NT(KCWO) and this guy gets to accept cash for the last 4 years- I dont think so and dont really see why you think its fair.No matter what he has done for the area Tulsa area DG scene I still think its shady;would you go back to AM status if AM worlds came to Austin?

Poor #73, you are getting royaly screwed. This should never have happened at a major.

BAD ETHICS!

I agree and rules should be rules!!! You cash in Pro, you stay in Pro. If he has made such an impact on disc golf, he should obviously be coherant of the rules as they are laid out. I would still like to hear why the PDGA let him play or admit that they overlooked the fact that he cashed Pro previously.

any word on the u13 boys whos card was missplaced?

your right, I think if you petition to play down a level then you should be able to play everything except major events in the AM division.If he had only cashed in doubles I could kinda understand but since he cashed in singles and doubles I dont understand it.

the pdga has stated he has petitioned for AM status they just won't answer the question of when he petitioned . per the rules you have to wait 1 year after re-gaining bagger status prior to playing a major.

i agree am worlds is not your typical event and should be for those who have never cashed in pro. maybe semi pro worlds?

Five consecutive years as a PROFESSIONAL, playing with PROFESSIONALS, gaining PROFESSIONAL experience. No advantage there! :confused:

I agree and rules should be rules!!! You cash in Pro, you stay in Pro. If he has made such an impact on disc golf, he should obviously be coherant of the rules as they are laid out. I would still like to hear why the PDGA let him play or admit that they overlooked the fact that he cashed Pro previously.



It's clear Billy is following the rules as they exist, so your first statement makes no sense as an argument for why he should not be playing this week in Tulsa.

I do have a problem, though, with a "former" pro shooting a series of rounds in competition and carding rounds consistently rated about 60 points higher than his current rating. That smacks of sandbagging. Billy -- an experienced disc golfer, a former pro -- SUDDENLY rediscovers his missing distance/accuracy/putting on the one week it makes the largest impact: the Am Worlds???

:p

I've seen this happen in other tournaments this year (though I won't hijack this fine thread to go into those details here). All we can do as fellow players is shake our heads in disbelief and accept lesser prizes when these guys finish ahead of us. (Well, I guess we can work on improving our own game, too, but that's another topic for another thread.)

:mad:

Chris, your zinger would sting more if I was being critical of him. Then I might be being hypocritical.

Obviously, the rules don't come into my argument much, but the rules are schizoprenic anyway: for most tourneys, they guy is allowed to play advanced because that is where he belongs, but for super special tourneys, where the competition is greater, he is not. So, quoting the rule to knock on the guy doesn't provide justification IMO. Anyways, from what Chuck wrote, he is entirely within the rules anyway.

What's worse?

A pro is playing in am worlds or a pro is playing in am worlds and is 12 strokes off the pace? :eek:

RULES SHOULD BE BLACK AND WHITE! LOT OF GRAY HERE!
Lets petition the NBA, I would kick some #$*&$! if the basket were 2 feet lower!

[QUOTE]
...I do have a problem, though, with a "former" pro shooting a series of rounds in competition and carding rounds consistently rated about 60 points higher than his current rating...



Edit: I've checked, and Billy Moody's first five rounds are only averaging 40 points higher than his current rating. Only two of those rounds are 60 points above his current rating.

So I hereby retract one third of my outrageous indignation.

;)

Half of these arguments rely on some ideal that doesn't exist in our sport anyway. Lower rated players are simply players playing for cash in the form of plastic. Some players ride this unfortunate fact to the bank while ducking competition. Some play up above their rating. Apparently, the mob thinks those people deserve a scarlet B, while those routinely playing against lower rated competition deserve an award for their fidelity to the holy ideal of amateurism. Complete BS.

Looking at his stats, it seems he even has USDGC and PRO WORLDS experience! He was also rated @ 963 at one time. I dont care what your argument is for him, its just plain ridiculous. Even if he is within the rules, what's he trying to prove? I just dont understand.

Is it obvious to anyone else that his 939 rating is a farce!!!!!!!!!!!

Looking at his stats, it seems he even has USDGC and PRO WORLDS experience! He was also rated @ 963 at one time. I dont care what your argument is for him, its just plain ridiculous. Even if he is within the rules, what's he trying to prove? I just dont understand.



I thought most people went am worlds, pro worlds, USDGC, in that order.

I guess he just did it in his own way.

I think CuTT's recent 269 is a plot to go to AM Worlds 2007! :o:D;)

I'm not even going to bother looking at how he played at USDGC or Pro Worlds, but I bet he wasn't scaring anyone. Basically, I'll stop since this is going nowhere, but I've seen him play, as well as many others in this tourney. If I feel compelled to tar someone as a bagger, he'd hardly be my first choice, regardless of how much "pro" experience he has.

I'm not even going to bother looking at how he played at USDGC or Pro Worlds, but I bet he wasn't scaring anyone. Basically, I'll stop since this is going nowhere, but I've seen him play, as well as many others in this tourney. If I feel compelled to tar someone as a bagger, he'd hardly be my first choice, regardless of how much "pro" experience he has.



Point taken.

I don't have a dog in this hunt, either. I'll let this go and get on with my day. But the decision-makers we elected to the PDGA should be aware of how it looks to the playing community when this sort of thing is allowed to happen.

About the worst result for all involved is if Billy were to go ahead and win the event, IMO. Where does he go then? Back up to Open for a year or two...?

/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

<font size=1>Meanwhile, no one's nailing Hovey for winning Open in an unsanctioned event...</font>

If you look at some of these guys at the top, guys like Jeff, Brent and Ian; they were playing intermediate 2 years ago. Just like Jack and I last year. No matter how hot they shoot right now, THEY are the true ams, and I wish them all the best against Billy.

Ian is PRO material. He whipped a_s in a non sanctioned event against alot of the top rated Texas pros. I know he will not have problems against any of the apponents he is playing now. Billy is good, but this kid has talent at a young age.

I am still waiting for the PDGA to chime in on when he was granted his AM status and if he truely was granted am status again why does it show him registered as a PRO!!!

RULES SHOULD BE BLACK AND WHITE! LOT OF GRAY HERE!
Lets petition the NBA, I would kick some #$*&$! if the basket were 2 feet lower!



Let's petition the PDGA; I would kick some #$*&$! if the basket were 2 inches lower!

Ian is PRO material. He whipped a_s in a non sanctioned event against alot of the top rated Texas pros.


Come on, its Texas. Our Intermediates can whip up on those pros too! :D:p

let the whole pro/am playing at AM worlds thing go.
The PDGA will handle......find something else to crusade.

About the worst result for all involved is if Billy were to go ahead and win the event, IMO. Where does he go then? Back up to Open for a year or two...?

/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif


Truly the worst result is going to be the " true amature golfer " sitting @ number 73 of a 72 player cut......
Even if billy is legit, there is still an aire of controversy. That keeps the doors of skeptisism wide open!

BRAVO Vinnie :cool:

Ian is PRO material. He whipped a_s in a non sanctioned event against alot of the top rated Texas pros.


Come on, its Texas. Our Intermediates can whip up on those pros too! :D:p



Low Blow!

whatever!

The scorecard was found and Junior Boys scores updated.

I'm entering field events and it will take some time to do it. There are several ties that need to be broken for some divisions in some events. So those results will likely not be posted until those ties are resolved later today or tomorrow.

Chappy is at this event as a marshal and knows about the Moody reclassification. If I can talk with him later, maybe we'll have some info to post.

Funny, kid

On my breakfast trip this morning I was scouting for laundromats. I decided "heck with it" and bought some underwear and socks at Walmart instead to make it a few more days. I flip on the news about an hour after I get back and there was a fire and explosion at the laundromat I passed...

thanks Chuck

So...Walmart saved your life!(?)! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

oohh, final destination 4 :o (I just watched 3 last night)

This has to be a first for any worlds.....Possibly 4 world champions for one family in one year. Mother and three daughters all potentially going to win. That would be very cool and they are a really nice family. Dad isn't as high up, in the Am Masters, but that is still very cool. Finish up strong ladies and bring'em home for the Hoosier state.

bs

Sorry if this has been posted previously..I haven't gone back and read the 40 plus pages...