The PGA operates with a set of competition rules that are in addition to the basic USGA Rules of Golf. We are working toward a similar separation into The Rules of Disc Golf where the 804 competition section would just have the minimum number of rules about scoring and running event rules, and there would be an additional rule book like the PGA which covers Rules for Sanctioned Competition. This would be an expanded version of the 804 section which will discuss rules for items like divisions, formats, dress, facilities and libations. We're not there yet, but the Tour Guidelines, which are an addition to our new rulebook, are along the lines of the future direction being taken.

I don't know about you, but I'm getting thirsty.

Nice to see you post. I guess that means all went well with the angiogram/stints?
That is one wicked birthday present to yourself.
Sorry I got off topic, but did not see you post anywhere else.

I posted in the High Ratings thread when I got back today. Two new stents and back in action. No chainsaw work for a few days but can I can throw by Friday.

... go easy there Chuckles ... when you're feeling better , c'mon to T-Town ... I'll buy you a beer ...

Chill on the periods.

... it's not periods ... it's whut's known as a "pregnant pause" ... :cool:

... and here's another problaym-Oh : The "Drinking-Light" is lit , fellers ... follow me here ... "The Tour Standards" (2/3/06) state that in "late 2002" , 804.05 was amended , re-clarified , etc. , etc. to prohibit alcohol (period) during PDGA play ... no TD discretion ... just (bang) automatic DQ ... also (quoting here) : "applies to all 2005 Tour Events" ... whoops , last year's rule only ... now in the (1/1/06) "new Rules Book" (that little thing that all Players carry ) ; 804.05 does not say this ...
... sez: (not verbatum) "illegal consumption of alcohol" AND that offenders "may be warned by TD" ... now , if I'm of legal age ; and in the Park or Farm Property the Course is on , drinking a beer is legal ; then my consumption is not "illegal" ... the TD can't even warn me ...
...and even if he went to the trouble to "specifically prohibit consumption of beer" ,
(which shouldn't have to be his job) ... does he "specifically prohibit throwing from O.B. ?...
... does he "specifically prohibit" calling out the wrong score ? ...
... does he "specifically prohibit" running past mini-markers before release ? ...
... does he "specifically prohibit" artificial devices hooked to your arm helping you throw 800 feet ? ...
; he "may" just warn me while I'm having my 6-pack ...
... not an "automatic DQ" ...
.
... if , if , IF , IF the PDGA intended to maintain the Rule they installed in "late 2002" , and penalty thereof ;
why , in-the-whole-wide-world , didn't it make this latest RULE BOOK (1/1/06) ...
.
... only one answer : it must be "off" now ...
... it's not in the NEW Rule Book ...
... the only place it's "mentioned" is in Tour Standards text ...
... and then , it "used to apply" to '03 , '04 , '05 Events ...
... not now ... not with our new Rule Book ...
... so , the "drinking light" is on again ...
.
... how can it be a "rule" if it's not in the "rule book" ??? ...
... if someone were taking the current "Officials' Test" , how could they answer any question based on 804.05 any other way ? ... they're taking a "rules test" ; not a "tour standards test" ; not a "local community jurisdiction test" ; not a "Baptist Catholic Methodist by-laws test" ; a "rules test" ...
post by Wayne Forest




exactly several of my points there ! ...
.
... ? why is a "rule" not "in the Rule Book" ? ...
... players carry and read a "Rule Book" ...
... players do not read or carry a copy of "standards" ...
... besides the fact that this "standard" applied to 2005 ...
.
.
... if it's illegal during Play ; if it's strictly prohibited in all cases and at all venues and on all Courses ,
. . . . . . . it SHOULD have been made a "bye-gawd" RULE ! ...
.
... ( not a suggestion ) ... Post by Wayne Forest




� 2006 PDGA Tour Standards V2.5 2/3/06

Goals are to:
� Organize the classification of all PDGA events into their appropriate tiers
� Provide a set of event standards where players can expect consistency at each tier level
� Make PDGA Tour events affordable for more players
� Increase the professionalism and marketability of the Tour


The following PDGA policy and clarification to Rule 804.05, was developed and passed by
the Board of Directors in late 2002, and is a requirement of all 2005 PDGA Tour Events:
Any player who uses an illegal substance or any other substance forbidden by park or
course rules, during his or her play (from the 2-minute warning through submission of his
or her scorecard) shall be disqualified from the event and may be suspended by the
PDGA. This standard applies equally to underage consumption of otherwise legal
substances, as well as to substances illegal for use by all. This standard also extends to
venues where alcohol is otherwise permitted: in such cases there must be a course or
event rule in place making the use of alcohol during play illegal. In summary, the use of
alcohol and illegal substances are forbidden during competition. TDs are to report any and
all such disqualifications to the PDGA as quickly as possible.



This has hit a nerve with me and this is from the TD who is in charge of the PDGA Amateur World Championships.

We have a person who has been charged with the duty of upholding the Rules and REGULATIONS of this sport for probably the most important tournament of most amateur disc golfers, and he is making a mockery of them (the R&R).

Without discussion he has proposed that alcohol be allowed on the courses during play and to hell with the rules and regulations. The Regulations for the Tour were updated on 2/3/06 and thus are a carry over from the previous year. I do not remember any discussion about this being a temporary ban on alcohol.

You, Mr. Forest should have consulted with the Tour and Rule Committee before bringing this topic up on the discussion board.

I am not against alcohol at all, but I do believe that there is no place on the course for it during competition. In the years that I have been playing, there is a remarkable visual difference of all the players. The players carry themselves much better now and finish rounds that previously were not or they finish them in a timely manner.

DO NOT go out and make blanket statements before you know all the facts and how situations will be handled.

Thank goodness MARSHALLs will be present to uphold rules and regulations, since it seem that the TD of AM WORLDS will not.

Now I feel better and this is all that I am going to say about it.

... pastied quote :

" The following PDGA policy and clarification to Rule 804.05, was developed and passed by
the Board of Directors in late 2002, and is a requirement of all 2005 PDGA Tour Events: "
.
... cessation of quote ----------------------------
.
... uh hello ... Mr.DiscCoach ... "at the tone , the time will be 6:03pm CST , March 7 , 2006 " ...

It doesn't say it doesn't carry forward into 2006, just for sure it was required for all events in 2005. Why would you put the statement in the 2006 document if it didn't carry forward?

This is a paste of the rule:

"(4) Activities which are in violation of the law or park regulation or disc golf course rule, including the illegal consumption of drugs or alcohol. Directors are granted the discretion to disqualify a player based on the severity of the offending conduct. An official warning of disqualification may be issued by a director where appropriate. "

If the consumption of alcohol is not illegal, then it sounds as if it should not be considered a violation of the rules.

You're correct regarding disc golf rules but not PDGA sanctioning rules. PDGA Tour Guidelines are an additional part of the rules just like the PGA rules are in addition to the USGA ball golf rules.

You're correct regarding disc golf rules but not PDGA sanctioning rules. PDGA Tour Guidelines are an additional part of the rules just like the PGA rules are in addition to the USGA ball golf rules.


And could you please help me locate the PDGA Tour Guidelines?

You're correct regarding disc golf rules but not PDGA sanctioning rules. PDGA Tour Guidelines are an additional part of the rules just like the PGA rules are in addition to the USGA ball golf rules.


And could you please help me locate the PDGA Tour Guidelines?



Follow this link (http://www.pdga.com/documents/td/2006tourinfo.php) in the box on the PDGA home page.

To quote the guidelines:

"TDs further:
� agree to enforce the PDGA Rules of Play.
� agree to enforce the PDGA policy on use of illegal substances, and, if the course venue allows use of alcohol, to have in place a course or event rule making its use during play illegal. This policy is a requirement of all PDGA Tour events."

Click the link on the upper right side of the PDGA Home page for all the Tour Information docs. It's there with the latest versions every year.

Thanks !!!
So, if the TD does not put in place a course or event rule making it's use during play illegal then, what ?

Not sure. Ask Gentry.

Thanks !!!
So, if the TD does not put in place a course or event rule making it's use during play illegal then, what ?


It would violate the terms of sanctioning, and I assume it would void the sanctioning agreement and make the tournament unsanctioned.

If that was to happen then, every participant in the tournament would suffer.

Wayne runs a good tournament, and you all are just arguing to be difficult. Show up in Tulsa and be prepared for 1st class treatement.

I am a proud TDSA life-time member, and I only lived in Tulsa one-year.

Well stated, Jason.

... and here's another problaym-Oh : The "Drinking-Light" is lit , fellers ... follow me here ... "The Tour Standards" (2/3/06) state that in "late 2002" , 804.05 was amended , re-clarified , etc. , etc. to prohibit alcohol (period) during PDGA play ... no TD discretion ... just (bang) automatic DQ ... also (quoting here) : "applies to all 2005 Tour Events" ... whoops , last year's rule only ... now in the (1/1/06) "new Rules Book" (that little thing that all Players carry ) ; 804.05 does not say this ...
... sez: (not verbatum) "illegal consumption of alcohol" AND that offenders "may be warned by TD" ... now , if I'm of legal age ; and in the Park or Farm Property the Course is on , drinking a beer is legal ; then my consumption is not "illegal" ... the TD can't even warn me ...
...and even if he went to the trouble to "specifically prohibit consumption of beer" ,
(which shouldn't have to be his job) ... does he "specifically prohibit throwing from O.B. ?...
... does he "specifically prohibit" calling out the wrong score ? ...
... does he "specifically prohibit" running past mini-markers before release ? ...
... does he "specifically prohibit" artificial devices hooked to your arm helping you throw 800 feet ? ...
; he "may" just warn me while I'm having my 6-pack ...
... not an "automatic DQ" ...
.
... if , if , IF , IF the PDGA intended to maintain the Rule they installed in "late 2002" , and penalty thereof ;
why , in-the-whole-wide-world , didn't it make this latest RULE BOOK (1/1/06) ...
.
... only one answer : it must be "off" now ...
... it's not in the NEW Rule Book ...
... the only place it's "mentioned" is in Tour Standards text ...
... and then , it "used to apply" to '03 , '04 , '05 Events ...
... not now ... not with our new Rule Book ...
... so , the "drinking light" is on again ...
.
... how can it be a "rule" if it's not in the "rule book" ??? ...
... if someone were taking the current "Officials' Test" , how could they answer any question based on 804.05 any other way ? ... they're taking a "rules test" ; not a "tour standards test" ; not a "local community jurisdiction test" ; not a "Baptist Catholic Methodist by-laws test" ; a "rules test" ...
post by Wayne Forest




exactly several of my points there ! ...
.
... ? why is a "rule" not "in the Rule Book" ? ...
... players carry and read a "Rule Book" ...
... players do not read or carry a copy of "standards" ...
... besides the fact that this "standard" applied to 2005 ...
.
.
... if it's illegal during Play ; if it's strictly prohibited in all cases and at all venues and on all Courses ,
. . . . . . . it SHOULD have been made a "bye-gawd" RULE ! ...
.
... ( not a suggestion ) ... Post by Wayne Forest




� 2006 PDGA Tour Standards V2.5 2/3/06

Goals are to:
� Organize the classification of all PDGA events into their appropriate tiers
� Provide a set of event standards where players can expect consistency at each tier level
� Make PDGA Tour events affordable for more players
� Increase the professionalism and marketability of the Tour


The following PDGA policy and clarification to Rule 804.05, was developed and passed by
the Board of Directors in late 2002, and is a requirement of all 2005 PDGA Tour Events:
Any player who uses an illegal substance or any other substance forbidden by park or
course rules, during his or her play (from the 2-minute warning through submission of his
or her scorecard) shall be disqualified from the event and may be suspended by the
PDGA. This standard applies equally to underage consumption of otherwise legal
substances, as well as to substances illegal for use by all. This standard also extends to
venues where alcohol is otherwise permitted: in such cases there must be a course or
event rule in place making the use of alcohol during play illegal. In summary, the use of
alcohol and illegal substances are forbidden during competition. TDs are to report any and
all such disqualifications to the PDGA as quickly as possible.



This has hit a nerve with me and this is from the TD who is in charge of the PDGA Amateur World Championships. ... yes , part of a large group ...

We have a person who has been charged with the duty of upholding the Rules and REGULATIONS of this sport for probably the most important tournament of most amateur disc golfers, and he is making a mockery of them (the R&R).
... a mockery ? ... I should think not ... more like exposing a "very large" flawed area ...
Without discussion he has proposed that alcohol be allowed on the courses during play and to hell with the rules and regulations. ... I never used "aych - eee - double - hockey - sticks" , now did I ? ... The Regulations for the Tour were updated on 2/3/06 and thus are a carry over from the previous year. I do not remember any discussion about this being a temporary ban on alcohol. ... good point ... same as mine ... WHY didn't this become a "rule" in the new Rule Book ... it was formulated in "late 2002" ... the Rule Book at that time was 1997 edition ... I had been looking forward to it's inclusion in the 2006 edition ...

You, Mr. Forest should have consulted with the Tour and Rule Committee before bringing this topic up on the discussion board. ... this can be an effective method of "moving and shaking" ... you'll notice that my posts were not done in "mean-ness" toward people ... not cursive ... not profane ... NOT attacking good volunteer people ... RATHER , I was attacking the situation ... "railing away" at a poor omission of a Rule ... "hollering" about the need for inclusion in a "printed Rule Book" ... no personal slams ...

I am not against alcohol at all, ... nor am I ... but I do believe that there is no place on the course for it during competition. ... that's why we need a "Rule" banning it ... not a "suggestion" ... not a letter of "policy" ... not a 4-year old "memo" that didn't get adapted into the Rules-Book for all eyes to see ... not just a "note" on "some extra piece of paper" somewhere on page 6 ... not just to say "that's the way it's always been" ... a RULE printed in a RULE BOOK ... In the years that I have been playing, there is a remarkable visual difference of all the players. The players carry themselves much better now and finish rounds that previously were not or they finish them in a timely manner.

DO NOT go out and make blanket statements before you know all the facts and how situations will be handled. ... oh trust me , I know all the facts ...

Thank goodness MARSHALLs will be present to uphold rules and regulations, since it seem that the TD of AM WORLDS will not.

Now I feel better and this is all that I am going to say about it. ... ... good , because you seemed to lay some of your "blanket statements" on me ... ... my points have been made without attacking the PDGA ... good people that I work with ... and I'm never been one to complain and yell out aimlessly ... I have definitive aim ... AND I don't just bellyache without having "constructive solutuions" or "fixes" or "theories" to solve a situation ... I'm thinking that I might need to help with the next "Rule Book" revisions & re-writes ... (2009?) (2012?) ... as I introduce our Sport to others , and show them Baskets , and show them Discs , and show them a (gulp) Rule Book : the best thing about it is the cool PDGA logo on the cover ... it might be a city Mayor ... a TV anchor person ... a celebrity Musician ... any walk of life ... anyone could read the "rule-book" ... but they wouldn't know all the "rules" ... I'm not a "rules-zealot" ; but ya know there are plenty of 'em out there ...


.
... self-explanatory : if it's a Rule , put it in the RULE BOOK ...

Wayne never said that he would ignore the ruling against alcohol, just expressed his disappointment that the "policy" had not been added to the rules.

... leave it to Duke to "hit the nail on the head" ... :cool:

has anyone been getting their invations yet? I just remembered someone said they come in around March some time but didn't know when

So I'll buy the Adv Masters all the beer they want to drink before,during and only one after the round at AM Worlds. ;)



Is that a promise! :D Watch out :D

I think the way the alcahol rule is now, in the PDGA guidelines or wherever, is good enough. In non-sanctioned events, leave it up to the TD to make the tournament stance known. Why should an unsanctioned tournament be forced to break a rule to allow not-illegal substances (ref: the Ziegenbock Texas 10 of the past). The illegal substance rule should be good enough. I classify this right up there with the 2 meter rule. Move on to the next subject...


(The extra periods are for W :D)

Hey Kelly, I'm getting to Tulsa about a week before worlds, That's a long time before the round starts.

Went by Mohawk at lunch and Dave Zucconi had the Parks Dept crew working hard. All of the brush piles that the volunteers stacked around the course are now gone and mulched. They have been pushing off all of the large fallen trees and starting to dress up the fairways. Next week they will brush hog and then the club can put the finishing touches to it.

Later this week, they will begin the process to have the forms set for concrete on the Red course and poured next week, then the week after we will pour pads for the Black course, the week after that I hope to see Dovillio poured. At the same time all of that is going on we will also be installing baskets and signs.

Things are coming together, soon, very soon all of the courses will be in and ready for the Worlds. :D

Hey Kelly, I'm getting to Tulsa about a week before worlds, That's a long time before the round starts.


I don't know if Tulsa can handle the Duke for that long! :D

My buddy tried reseving the room at the host hotel yesterday. All the grouped rooms were booked, we decided $82 per night was a little steep, the hotel next door was completey booked. So now we are staying at the Red Roof Inn about a mile away.

This is going to be huge, I hope no one is banking on the wait list. :eek:




For those of you who want a room with a fridge for freezing your Gatorade and stove for food, check out the Extended Stay America just a couple miles from the Holiday Inn. Jessie the manager there says that if he can get a group of 15 or so people to reserve rooms, the price would be about $39 per night. Can't beat that!

I stayed at an extended stay in Des Moines, great place to be if you like having a full sized fridge and cooking some of your own meals.

If the Tourney Hotel is booked up I would suggest finding a HOTEL near Admiral & Memorial.....You will be VERY close to McClure and Dovillio, within 5 miles of Mohawk and next to the highway to get out south to Haikey and Hunter.

You could always try the Best Budget Inn at 34 S Sheridan. I'm sure you could find something to DO there... :eek:

I know of a place that has a special weekly rate...they have a kitchen in them.

It is on 41st and Memorial right off HWY 51.

How much? if there was any way possible, I'd love to come, but I'd have another player and a wife with me :DCheap would be the key to coming since everything is multiplied times three, actually four becuase I'd have another non player!
rWc :cool:

I hope you can work something out It'll be good to see you again.

If the Tourney Hotel is booked up I would suggest finding a HOTEL near Admiral & Memorial.....You will be VERY close to McClure and Dovillio, within 5 miles of Mohawk and next to the highway to get out south to Haikey and Hunter.




The Tournamnet Hotel Is NOT booked up. I called to check the rooms yesterday and there still 67 rooms available for the 8 night package at $55 and 226 rooms available for the daily rate of $65.

I don't now how you guys are trying to do this or if your calling them on the phone but there is a discount code that notes you are with the Worlds and have access to those rooms. If you just tried to call them on the phone, they may have told you they are full, we have most all of the rooms blocked off.

So, I say again THE HOST HOTEL IS NOT BOOKED FULL YET.

The reservation code fro the 8 night packege is PDG.

The reservation code for the nightly rate is PDN.

Here is the link
http://www.selecttulsa.com/discgolf/

THANKS TWOPUTT!!!!!

:D:D:D:D

I just booked us for the 21st through the 30th.

Woo HOOO!

The BEST bet is the TOURNEY HOTEL!

You get to stay in a real nice place, plus be on top of things at the hotel. And its always fun to take over a hotel full of Disc Golfers

Good Lord willing and the creek don't rise I look forward to seeing you as well Duke. :cool:

It does not work for me. I click on the links and get to the hotel site, then enter the dates and all. Then it reads there are no more rooms. Help!

Call the phone number.

Call the phone number.



Good idea! Had to call three times before I figured out they were sending me to the national line. Then I got the Hotel in Tulsa to keep me there, and the rooms were there! Ask for "in-house" reservations! :D

So now I got the reservations, but at $65.00 per night. So I call back to check out why and the lady says she can give me the room at $55.00 per night, but I can't cancel, if for some reason I can't make it! I have never heard of this before. It should not be that difficult to book a room.

I was talking to a guy at the tournament I was at this weekend. Apparently he booked his reservation in December holding it with his debit card. Well they charged his card for the full rate in excess of $500 this past week. That wiped out his bank account and he was slapped with overdraw fees.

Is the hotel charging the credit cards in advance? I thought they were supposed to only hold the room with the card number. Not charge it before check-in.

Does this hotel have mini-fridges in the rooms? I could not see anything on the website.

Please contact me via email for all hotel reservation problems!
allied@oklahoma.net

I will work on each problem individually. The hotel should NOT be pre charging any credit/debit cards. If this has happend, please contace me ASAP.

The Hotel is filling quickly, I am trying to secure more rooms for more players and we are now making arrangements for a spill over hotel. Its looking to be a BIG event. ;)

Thanks, I forwarded your post on to him. Hopefully it can be resolved.

I think I have it worked out, but man, what a lot of time on the phone. The guy at Holiday Inn was really cool about the hole thing and I can't wait to get out there.

Thanks for the heads up Kris.

<font color="black"> HOTEL INFORMATION </font>

I think the problems with the reservations system have been fixed. The problem of pre-charging the full amount for the 8 night rate of $55 has been resolved. It should not have happened but it was done on the weekend when our contact was not there. She will be calling those that were charged and calling all the rest of the people that have the 8 night guarantee rate. Unfortunately they will be charging the amounts in May. This should give all ample time to make sure about how they want to make their payment.

Those that have the single night rate of $65 have not and will not be pre-charged before check in. The link for the Host Hotel information page should be changed shortly to address the pre-payment policy.
http://www.selecttulsa.com/discgolf/

If anyone has any further problems or if you need assitance with your Hotel resevations, please eamil me at allied@oklahoma.net.

Thanks
Dave Wise

My problem is I'm still not sure we can make it. Need a couple of things to happen first (sell a house) and then we'd have a better idea (want to come, bad!).

Thanks Gary! So I guess that means you're not making BG this year! Maybe my luck will improve and we can make Tulsa. Or you could come to Bud Hill in Memphis this May! It's a great time! rWc3523 :cool:

Never mind the doubles thing.

I looked at the proposed schedule, and decided to use the day to practice instead.

Thanks anyway.

Happy B-Day,

No, my work schedule won't allow BG this year.

Hope things work out and I get to see you in Tulsa.

Just got my invite to worlds :o:o:o

This may be too early to ask this question, but is there any significant order to how the first pool assignments will be figured?

Ratings?
Alphabetical?
PDGA#?
Order of recieved entries?

Just curious :cool:.

That's done by Hoeniger at PDGA office. Theoretically, all divisions with multiple pools like Advanced and possibly Adv Master are supposed to have pools with the same strength. However, we have been doing the top pool by ratings plus international players, and the second pool with those who have requested to travel together. This may continue to make sense for Tulsa since wind is usually such a factor. I'm not familiar with all of the courses but I suspect that some are much more wide open than others. That would suggest that seeding the 'A Pool' with the top rated and international players would be done. Hoeniger makes the call based on recommendations from the host TD.

Cool, thanks Chuck.

I took these pics this morning...

We just did a lot of work on this course with new baskets to boot!!

This is hole 8 at Haikey Creek looking back at the tee box.


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/8basketlookingattee.jpg

Haikey - Hole #2 looking back at tee box, it's about 350ft.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/2basket.jpg

Here is the green on Haikey #17.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/17green.jpg

Tee shot on Haikey hole #17.



http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/17tee.jpg

Tee shot on Haikey hole #17.



http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/17tee.jpg



Oh Snap! Better bring my flippy Buzzz.

Good thing that Tulsa is the same elevation as Birmingham. At least I won't have to learn how all my discs fly again.

Looks sweet. I hope 3 days to practice 6 courses will be enough. :eek:

Parknputt, you will enjoy the courses come July...don't forget the sunblock.

This is Haikey hole #4 looking back at tee.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/4basketlookingattee.jpg

Haikey hole #3:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/5tee.jpg

Ahhhh...sooo familiar...

I was in town this past week visiting family and got to play Haikey on Wed.. Good challenging design. I look forward to playing it again....hoepfully with no wind next time

I even aced No. 9...but no one was around to see it :(

Haikey hole #3 basket looking at tee.


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/3basket.jpg

I even aced No. 9...but no one was around to see it :(



Good ace on hole #9!

OK last pic of Haikey...this is a pic of the tee on hole #18, very difficult finishing hole...it's just over 400ft with a slight bend to the left towards the end of the hole.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/18tee_2.jpg

Yeah.....dont skip off to the left on your drive or your in the ____! I have the scraps to prove it :o

No kidding, the main thing we need to get rid of on 15-18 is the living barbwire...as you prob already know that stuff is BRUTAL!!

Bring on the shule and tight fairways!!! :Dthnx for the pics Mike!!what are the other courses like?

What up Salazar? ,

You can expect a tight course at Mohawk Park (new 36 hole facility). Everything else is moderately tight to fairly wide open, holes range from 250-700. You won't be disapointed ;)

I'll get more current pics of Worlds courses up soon.

Mohawk will be tighter and longer with more trees. :cool:

Haikey - Hole #2 looking back at tee box, it's about 350ft.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/2basket.jpg



Watch out cuz Green Country is starting to turn GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN again!!!!

Look at that picture of hole #18,and add 300 ft.,that's what the long holes will look like.

Hopefully you have plastic caps on the pipes behind the number plates. I got stung in my back in the mid-90s on Haikey #8 from a nest of wasps living in that pipe.

SHhhhhh .........Don't give away all the local's secrets. :D

What secrets. The only real thing I know about Haikey is that
1) you better have a strong arm.
2) be able to throw a long way consistantly
oh yea
3) prey the wind is less than 40mph sustained.

Mailman just picked up the mail.

My entries for MA1, Distance, and putting are on their way to Alpharetta.

Woo Hoo!

I am looking forward to courses where I can finally throw drivers. :eek:

Look at that picture of hole #18,and add 300 ft.,that's what the long holes will look like.




that would be real kewl!! :D

David McKibbin and Jim Yount finished 1st in Adv. Grandmaster division at TEXAS STATE DOUBLES (AM). Do you think they should play Intermediate division at AM WORLD DOUBLES? Please vote at link below... :D
http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=523311&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

No pics of Course Dovillio today, too much rain...if it lets up 2morrow i'll take some pics.

Mailman just picked up the mail.

My entries for MA1, Distance, and putting are on their way to Alpharetta.

Woo Hoo!

I am looking forward to courses where I can finally throw drivers. :eek:



Mine is the same way but Im playing jr under 19

I tried to book a room last week and also had the problem with instantly charging my card with no cancellation possible; so I didn't book. Was glad to see you worked out that problem so I called this morning and was told that not only were the DG rooms all gone, but the entire hotel was overbooked for the week. The guy said if everyone shows they will be turning people away. He had no recommendation for an alternate hotel. If this is all true I really could use any info on a spill-over recommendation. I'd prefer to use a place that the tournament staff is dealing with.

OK last pic of Haikey...this is a pic of the tee on hole #18, very difficult finishing hole...it's just over 400ft with a slight bend to the left towards the end of the hole.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/18tee_2.jpg



Please note this picture is in the winter time.
By the time worlds arrives it will much greener,
and much thicker around the edges.
Do not miss the fairway, a pitch out will be likely.
D.P. :D

UT back to Sweet Sixteen !!!
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HOOK 'EM !!!

... Spring sprung , yesterday ... :cool:

Did Tulsa get nailed by that Spring Blizzard?

I was looking at the invited players info I recieved and noticed on the draft schedule that on Wednesday the MM1 division is split and plays 2 different courses. This is before the shuffle. Is this a mistake on the draft schedule? It seems to me that before the shuffle the entire division needs to play the same courses, on the same day. If anybody reading this knows what's up, please post.

I'm not positive but I think the shuffle for Advanced Masters is after the first day of play on Tuesday, not after Wednesday like the Advanced.

Did Tulsa get nailed by that Spring Blizzard?



Nope it missed Oklahoma, Kansas got hit in parts.

... now that we're into April ; and May is "just around the corner" ; this Monster of a Tournament will be here be-fore ya know it !!! ... :cool:

Hole #9 at Hunter Park, 390 ft hole with a creek 20 ft behind the basket.

Picture is Keith throwing his fairway shot.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/73947524.jpg

Hunter Hole #13.

Road is OB about 30 feet behind basket.

Pictured is Jaypee.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/IMG_0115.jpg

I called today and made reservations, no problem. I did want to give everyone who may still be interested in staying in the Host hotel a heads up on the available rooms left.

4 Rooms left-- 2 double beds, non-smoking
6 Rooms left-- 1 King size bed, non-smoking

1 Room left--1 King size bed, smoking
1 Room left--2 double beds, smoking

Whew, glad I made the call when I did. By the way, I may have the other bed available for whoever wants to go in on the deal. If you're interested please send me a P.M. Neal Martinez

... somehow , I don't think their "numbers left" are running that low ... any Hotel problems or issues of being "full" , can e-mail David Wise from our "Contacts" list ...
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... PDGA folks and John Houck will be "touring" our Courses and Layouts for the 2006 AmWorlds next week ...
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I hope they end up getting the big "double thumbs-up!"

I just completed my registration form today. It'll go out in tomorrow's mail.

It will be my first attendance at a Worlds event as a participant! Any other "no-talent" TDs coming? :D

I'll be sitting on pins and needles waiting for the day to finally get here when I get to leave for Tulsa! (Imagine that! - A Texan looking forward to going to Oklahoma!)

(Imagine that! - A Texan looking forward to going to Oklahoma!)




Just like your best high school football propects. :D

(Imagine that! - A Texan looking forward to going to Oklahoma!)




Just like your best high school football propects. :D


That could easily be debated this year !!!
<font color="orange"> "I BLEED ORANGE" </font>

I'll have to make sure to remember to take my UT Dad hat along with me...

Hook 'em Horns :D

It will be my first attendance at a Worlds event as a participant!

I'll be sitting on pins and needles waiting for the day to finally get here when I get to leave for Tulsa!



We'll see you there Larry. Gonna be fun! :)

Less then two weeks away :DBetter sign up soon :DThis event will fill :D

David- you must be talking about World Dubs or either Texas States, Am Worlds is in July..............

UP Date from this weekend from K-Mac.

Thanks AGAIN to all that came out and work at Mohawk this weekend. We got alot accomplished and it is looking GOOD!

There are 18 baskets in the ground at Mohawk, if you want to go out and try it out, you should follow the first 10 holes on the RED course and then walk over and play holes 1-5 on the BLACK course. We have 2 more holes near the ponds on the BLACK course and then #16, the 700+ foot par 5 is in the ground.

The course is still under construction but if you do go out there to play be aware that there is poison ivy, and ticks out there so be prepared.

Also if you do go try it out, please take a trash bag, because there is tons of unwanted trash on the course.

We will be installing a few baskets each night this week. Hopefully by weeks end we will have all the baskets in on the BLACK course (there will be 3-5 holes that are still far from completion but your traffic will help beat the course down.

By the way on the BLACK course there will be two tees, (The BLACK and the WHITE(short tees) The White course looks like it will be very entertaning also if you don't want to bruise your ego on the 8500+ foot wooded course.

What did no one see that one of the new courses is 8500+?

I thought that would generate some discussion.

(The BLACK and the WHITE(short tees)



I suggest using the PDGA guidelines for tee colors for these new courses (of which White is one of them). Perhaps Houck and Gentry will suggest that during their visit.

Its not White and Black tees, the courses are called BlackHawk and WhiteHawk.

The WhiteHawk course is a seperate course within the BlackHawk course. Some may say short tees, but the course is different enought to justify calling itself another course.

I haven't seen any BLUEHawks or even GoldHawks flying around this part of the country :D

From K-Mac on the Tulsa thread. Just to give you a little insight as to what to expect on these courses.

Let me tell you about a few holes out there if you haven't been there.

#10 on the Black course is my favorite hole out there right now. It was measured at 480 feet yesterday. It is a par 4 that has a pond on the right side and two HUGE trees that is gaurding the fairway on the left side. BIG arms will try and go out over the water to avoid the 2 HUGE trees in the fairway, but be careful because it is 350 feet to carry water if you go this way, and your gap to get to the hole is only 20 feet wide.

If you more reasonable you will throw your drive to the 2 huge trees and then throw a right to left (hyzer for righties) to get a putt for a birdie 3.

There will be an occasional 2 on this hole but the Risk-Reward to get it is very high price to pay to try and get a duece. Cuz if your disc gets thirsty, It will be a VERY HARD 5, I could see people making FROSTY the snowmen on this hole alot.


Hole #6 on RedHawk Hole is measured out at 824 feet, a par 5 that has a creek on the entire right side of the hole. The hole goes about 450 feet and then doglegs right. If you can get a drive out around the 400 ft mark, you may be able to cut the corner and make an attempt to get there in 2, but an errarnt shot right will definatly end up in the drink and a BIG SCORE will be in your future. Yesterday when we took a few sample tosses on this hole the average score was 5. There were a few 4's and there were two that would have had atleast an 8 maybe a 12 if they finished.


YOU CAN PLAY BOTH of these holes TODAY if you want. Go out there and check it out. BRING a TRASHBAG! Help clean this track up with us.

Did you rename RedHawk to WhiteHawk because of the Players Cup course in Florida?

Chap

No, the big wooded course will be the Black Hawk, the open course will be the Red Hawk.

There are alternate tees within the Blakhawk course that will be called the white hawk course.

There are two courses, with one of them having alternate tees.

I don't really know who to ask this question, so I will just ask on here. Would it be a problem if I post the link to all the "players" information (schedules, field events, that sort of thing)? Some of the Kansas guys are wanting the info.

Some of those holes sound very difficult! Can't wait to lose some discs! :D

Don

Ok here are some pics of Course Dovillio, as you can see we are in the process of pouring pads...if you have ever played White Park in Bowling Green you can expect the same size pad.

This is the tee box on hole 1 at Dovillio.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/Dovilliowalkingto1tee.jpg

Hole 15 tee at Dovillio.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/Dovillio026.jpg

Hole 8 Green at Dovillio.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/Dovillio8basket.jpg

Hole 17 Fairway at Dovillio.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/Dovillio17fairway.jpg

I'll put more pics up later, it's 5oclock and it's time to gooooooooo!

Mike,
BG first, and PDGA worlds 2nd. I have seen 2 BG champs win world dubs the last 2 yrs in a row.
RonSTL
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Peace,
Ron
Will play, only time will tell.
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Mike,
BG first, and PDGA worlds 2nd. I have seen 2 BG champs win world dubs the last 2 yrs in a row.
RonSTL
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I think a lot of people would be happy with those results.

I'll be dropping off the last 18 baskets today at Mohawk...I will post the new course pics tomorrow.

Better get your accuracy game together cuz Mohawk is TIGHT!!

... 'n' gnarly ... :eek:

MC hopefully see you in BG. We are staying at host. OH Yeah, the hot tub for the old men. You definitely know associates of mine.

Peace,
Ron

Wayne,

... 'n' gnarly ...

Yea, bring it!

I just have to play a few meaningful tournys inbetween now and then.

Ron

Wayne,
A second off subject, we did not win GCD we got 2nd. We got hammered in the last round, 35mph sustained alt. shot and took 2nd.

I will not post on this again.

Ron

PS. worlds is just around the corner.

... and the "corner" is getting closer ... :cool:

MC hopefully see you in BG. We are staying at host. OH Yeah, the hot tub for the old men. You definitely know associates of mine.

Peace,
Ron



Yo Ron, I'll see you there we are leaving Thur morning.

I have not played golf in 2 weeks due to spending all my personal time WORKING ON WORLDS COURSES!! It will all be worth it come July ;) ;)

I'm looking forward to a BG weekend warrior getaway!

MC hopefully see you in BG. We are staying at host. OH Yeah, the hot tub for the old men. You definitely know associates of mine.

Peace,
Ron



Yo Ron, I'll see you there we are leaving Thur morning.

I have not played golf in 2 weeks due to spending all my personal time WORKING ON WORLDS COURSES!! It will all be worth it come July ;) ;)

I'm looking forward to a BG weekend warrior getaway!



May you have tha almighty Karma on your side Mike!! thanks for all your hard work!!

... DO WELL , Conners ... your Karma will indeed be Strong ! ...
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Appreciate the suport guys!! Can't wait to get there.

... these Courses around Tulsa are lookin' s-w-e-e-t-e-r by the week ...
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... Courses will be challenging , as well as entertaining ! ... :cool:

... :cool:...

... almost OVERNIGHT the foliage around here has 'kicked in" ... Trees have started to fill out with leaves ...
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... a little "taste o' Worlds" will be on tap this Saturday (15th) ...
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All Divisions welcome (from beginner all the way up to Open Pro)

All Genders welcome (but only if you bring a smile on your face)

2 rounds of (at least) 18-holes each

non-PDGA

Entry fee = $20 ... includes :
$15 into pay-out (cash-Pro's / prizes-Am's)
$1 into Ace-Pot (cash for all)(must be hit or thrown-off)
$4 into the "New Tee-Signs" for Haikey (hope to complete about a month after we know the Course Layout)
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... AND ... check out the "preview" in your latest DGWN ... superb ! ...
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... written by our own Jeff Paul ...
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... coupla "super" Club Members ! ...

... assembled & published by our own Kent Johnson ( Mr.Massive Graphics) ...
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... the "AmWorlds Full-Page Ad" Layout by our own Steve & Kathy Ward ...
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... AND ... if you think we're Proud now ; just wait till you see us at the 2006 AmWorlds ! ...
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... just 13 weeks to go 'n' counting ... :D

... 146,880 minutes ...

...tick - tick - tick ... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Worlds Clock (http://www.7is7.com/otto/countdown.html?year=2006&month=7&date=25&hrs=8&min=30&sec=0&tz=local&title=Countdown%20To%202006%20Am%20Worlds&lang=en&bgcolor=%23CCFFFF)

... Hole 1 at Haikey is now 911 feet ... :eek:

Course Dovillio now has 18 new tee pads all 6' x 12'. We poured all 18 and were finished by 2:30. Pretty amazing for one day. Thanks to all the volunteers that came out to help.

Now just 36 more pads to go and we will be very close to being ready for the multitudes of players that will hit here in July. ;)

Hey Wayne,
Just a thought, you could put the basket right by the tee pad and put a pole in the placement and make it mando you go around the pole and then back to the basket.

I believe that makes it 1822 feet, just about the right length.

RonSTL :D

... then the Hole Nickname would be : "U-Turn , Clyde" ? ! ? ...
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tell them your
> Name
> City , State
> PDGA #
> maybe a phone # , or your active e-mail address
> what Division you wish to enter in the 2006 AmWorlds / Junior Worlds
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... hi Becky ... :cool:

BUMP

Worlds Clock (http://www.7is7.com/otto/countdown.html?year=2006&month=7&date=25&hrs=8&min=30&sec=0&tz=local&title=Countdown%20To%202006%20Am%20Worlds&lang=en&bgcolor=%23CCFFFF)

Don't forget to include any info that might help you get bumped up on the wait list...like if your wife was invited and you weren't! :)

Hello to you too Wayne!! I was eating my lunch and reading the discussion board and had to laugh when I read your post!

I'm so excited about going to Tulsa Am Worlds and I mailed my entry fee in the week after the PDGA invites went out. I am so very impressed with you and your entire Tulsa Worlds Team that I can't miss this one. The countdown clock is classic!

I also logged onto the Tulsa Convention and Vistors Bureau website, http://www.visittulsa.com and ordered a free visitor packet. It arrived in the mail four days later. I didn't know Tulsa had so much going on! It's going to be way fun! Have a great day Wayne!

... and you as well ... :cool:

I had a question about the mixed doubles tourney. Do both players on a team have to be in the singles tournament?

Thanks!

Don

Just a short note to let you know new items have been added to the pro shop including some cool new styles for the ladies and the 2006 PDGA Amateur / Junior World Championships.

Plan on watching the SPECIAL BLEND ORC make a surprise visit back to the shop early next week. That's right folks... ALL 3 stamps will be made available in limited numbers for a very short time. If you missed out the first time around this is your chance to grab one of the 2006 SPECIAL BLEND Orc's made for this promotion.

Also in the new and exciting department is the 2006 AM Worlds raffle tickets! Here's your chance to get a car audio system from KICKER car audio (the official audio company of the TV show "Overhaulin")a ONE OF A KIND (actually there was 2 made but they won't let the other one go!)Basket from the awesome folks at DGA (Disc Golf association)after seeing this baby you will see why they are "the folks that brought you the game" and last but certainly not least a matching set of 2 Revolution Disc Golf Bags and Towels from our friends at discgolfer.com

So as you can see we've been busy trying to ensure you are ready to have a most Twisted Season!

Thanks for your support, see you on the course.

Great idea about getting the info from the tulsa visitors board...just asked for my free info :D OMG I am soo excited......this will be my first AM Worlds..W O W!!!!! Road trip from MD to OK...can't wait /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Information can be found here:

http://ww3.visittulsa.com/general.asp?id=63

Thanks

It looks like I'm official now...

Can't wait!

Great idea about getting the info from the tulsa visitors board...just asked for my free info :D OMG I am soo excited......this will be my first AM Worlds..W O W!!!!! Road trip from MD to OK...can't wait /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



I've made that roady from OK to MD many of times. All my relatives on my moms side are from Maryland and Viginia....I was born in the state of black eyed susans ;)

Well then..... if you were born in the land of black eyed susan's you must be ok :DShould be an interesting road trip :D

I had a question about the mixed doubles tourney. Do both players on a team have to be in the singles tournament?

Thanks!

Don


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... I figgered McCoy (puli mon) would get ya responded to ... he's coordinating that puppy ...

I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I made it through 27 pages of posts without seeing anything, so I figured I'd just ask anyway.

Is there any way for an invited player to sign up for AM Worlds on the 'net?


Jeff

Good question.


PDGA?

Anyone?

... send an e-mail to David Gentry ... tourmgr@pdga.com ...
if he doesn't know , he will find out ... :cool:

I had a question about the mixed doubles tourney. Do both players on a team have to be in the singles tournament?

Thanks!

Don


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Wow that is a good question. I'm not sure if that has came up before. I'm going to have to get back to ya on that one. The PDGA may want to answer that question also.

.. .thanks Kev. ... :cool:

I had a question about the mixed doubles tourney. Do both players on a team have to be in the singles tournament?



There have been players who only played divisional or mixed doubles. As long as they are current members and meet the qualifications for the division being entered, it's been approved before.

THANKS CHUCK!

There it is

You can do it! :D

I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I made it through 27 pages of posts without seeing anything, so I figured I'd just ask anyway.

Is there any way for an invited player to sign up for AM Worlds on the 'net?


Jeff





No one has addressed his question.

If you can't get an answer for Am Worlds, you can sign up instead for the Mid-Nationals major online... :)

The website is listed in the invitation package. Its a site similar to the Pro Shop here on PDGA.com. I dont remember the URL, but I DO remember there is an alpha-numeric code you have to input before you can register. That code is also in your invitation package. If you have been expecting an invitation and havent gotten it yet, I would contact PDGA HQ as soon as possible.

http://www.discgolfsignup.com
This is the site to sign up on, but you will need the Invite Code in your invitation package to register.

I had a question about the mixed doubles tourney. Do both players on a team have to be in the singles tournament?



There have been players who only played divisional or mixed doubles. As long as they are current members and meet the qualifications for the division being entered, it's been approved before.



And I thank you as well! :cool:

If you can't get an answer for Am Worlds, you can sign up instead for the Mid-Nationals major online... :)


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They should be. Tulsa is more Mid-National than the current location. :o

We don't allow any of those baggers with ratings over 974 that aren't mid-level players though :o

Sent in my check yesterday. I don't know if any other players are coming from GA but I sure as hell am. Whooohooo can't wait to check those courses out.

The article in the DGW was great. I have read it twice now. :D

... the third time's the Charm ... :cool:

I know I'm ready for the tournament but just hope we get a big show of Jr. that would be nice to see more than last year

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... their official statement is that "invitations to waitlisted players being announced by June 1" ...

... well ... fee - fye , foh - foh - Fum ... look out b-a-b-y ; cuz here we come ... :cool:

I now have these in my posession! :D
They will be for sale next week. We also have minis of the same disc and minis of the original Space Man disc. Pricing and types of discs will be posted next week. This disc looks just as good in your hands. ;)
http://www.innovadiscs.com/cfr/2005/06AmWorldsIndian.jpg

Or on my wall next to the Space Man disc. Those things looks great. sent ya an email. :D

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> > > twelve more weekends > > > ... :cool:

Is that a rain dance he is doing?? :(

... we do need the rain ... :)

... we're gaining some "celebrities" who will be in attendance here in July ... :D

Wayne please email me, I need to ask you a few questions and am not sure if you are getting my emails.

Thanks
Chris

... done ... :cool:

These beautifull discs are now available there were only 50 made and I have 25 left. I have 11 Star Starfires and 12 Star Fire Birds left. They are $30 each. We also have minis of the same design and minis of the original Space Man design for $10 each.

To order yours, please either send me a PM or for those that can only read the board you can email me at allied@oklahoma.net or call my insurance office at 888-781-1160 toll free to order your discs. Just mention you're calling about discs.

I will give you mailing instructions after you have contacted me. Hurry and get your's now, the last 25 of these won't last long. If you don't get yours now, I'm sure you can buy one off Ebay in another couple of weeks for $50. :o
http://www.innovadiscs.com/cfr/2005/06AmWorldsIndian.jpg

It is a sad day. We were just informed that one of our Akansas disc golfers was lost yesterday. Denny Reeves. Denny was a great guy, golfer and volunteer for the sport. We will miss him very much. :(

The below post is from the Darrell Baily in Arkansas.

For those that have not heard. I got a call last night from Ganzel and was shocked,upset and saddened to hear that our own Denny Reaves was killed in a fire at his apartment early wed. morning. I don't know all the details, all I know is he is gone and disc golf will never be the same for me. I still can't believe this has happened and he won't be at the park this Sat. or taking a road trip to Tulsa to help clean up. I have lost a very good friend as I know others will be just as upset when they hear the news. I ask all who read this to keep his family,especialy his two young daughters,in your prayers and give them the strength to get through this difficult time.


GOD SPEED Dennis Reaves(#28415)

It was a pleasure to be your friend.

OMG

I will prey for the family and all the Arky boys. I have some close friends there and understand what they must be going through.

Tragic is the only word in my head at this point.

RonSTL
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... after being satisfied with my complete assessment of this work-of-art , I once again traversed back across to my waiting steed , pulled up my cinch strap , and gently nudged the spurs towards home ... completely impressed ... happily taken-by-surprise ... and to no small extent , overwhelmed ...
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... side note: the Riverside Park Course in not in your competitive rotation for the 2006 AmWorlds ... it's a little-too-easy for all youse Players ... but , while in T-Town ; you can swing by there & check it out ... you'll dig it ... :cool:

... just 3 more weekends till Memorial Day ... it's all so busy after that ... :cool:

.. .AND ... since the Rains finally came : we are truly "Green Country" ... :cool:

... one of the NEW Mohawk Courses gets concrete tee-pads poured next Saturday , 13th ...
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2006 AM WORLDS BLOG (http://blog.myspace.com/70399907)

... just 11 more weekends to go ... :D

... just 11 more weekends to go ... :D

How much longer to AM WORLDS and where is it going to be? :D

The wait list invitees should be out soon!

How much longer to AM WORLDS and where is it going to be? :D


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... dang , jimbo : you're town's named after a tennis shoe ... :D

Yes, Converse ALL STARS. :D

... only 10 more weekends ... :cool:

... just got off the phone with a "bigfoot" ...
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... a "Yeti" ...
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... on one of the "World's Nights" in Tulsa ; our Players' Party will be hosted by : Jay & Des Reading ... :D
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2006 AM WORLDS BLOG (http://blog.myspace.com/2006amworlds)

Will the RAINS ever end?

:D

keep the Blog rolling!!

Very Nice, new reading is all good, Keep the Blogs coming.

In STL
I bet we have got at least 2-3 inches of rain in the last 2 hrs. It is still coming down and it is beautiful. Rain is a beautiful thing when the ground is way dry. Worlds will be beautiful, green, and hot in BIG T-Town in July. Time is getting close to play the game.

RonSTL,
16479 :)

... only 10 more weekends ... :cool:



Holy Cow, that is crazy!

And it's gonna be HOT!!!

Happy b-day Conners!!! :D

For months now I've been going to the 2006 Am Worlds website to see what these courses look like, and for months I keep seeing "Photos and hole descriptions coming soon". Is anyone in Tulsa ever gonna get this simple task out of the way??? Little more than 2 months remain and it would be nice to see what these courses look like. Excellent job though for whomever took the time to illustrate the Hunter Park course. The other courses should've been done in this manner months ago.

various pics have been posted on different threads!!!

Are you serious? Is this the first time you've been to this thread?

Patience - The TDSA is taking care of more important things than posting pictures. Please be thankful for the pictures you have because they weren't available for the Am Worlds in Flagstaff.

Why can't the WORLDS be in DES MOINES every year????

-duBBs

For months now I've been going to the 2006 Am Worlds website to see what these courses look like, and for months I keep seeing "Photos and hole descriptions coming soon". Is anyone in Tulsa ever gonna get this simple task out of the way??? Little more than 2 months remain and it would be nice to see what these courses look like. Excellent job though for whomever took the time to illustrate the Hunter Park course. The other courses should've been done in this manner months ago.



Chill out! Pictures never do golf holes any justice anyway...all you have to know is you will need every shot in your game. You can expect tight LONG holes, tight short holes, holes with water and creeks will be in effect, you can also expect long/short OPEN holes.

Spread the word, bring your game not your attitude, you will enjoy yourself I promise.

Why can't the WORLDS be in DES MOINES every year????

-duBBs



Zip that man-pleaser CUTT :D You aint comin so why ya #$*&$!? :eek: It will be a while before any worlds can match the quality of IOWA worlds, we're gonna give it our best shot.

I can promise you that you will enjoy at least 5 of the courses. The other I can't speak for anymore

:(

As Co-TD of the PDGA 2004 Worlds in Des Moines, I want to enthusiastically endorse the TDSA (Tulsa Disc Sports Organization) and the PDGA Am/Jr Worlds 2006!

The TDSA has been working on their Worlds planning, tasks and organization since the fall of 2004. I was able to watch them present their bid to host the Worlds at the 2005 PDGA Spring BOD Summit and they did an excellent job of preparation and presentation. The quality and depth of their staff and team helping out is fantastic. And they have been diligently fundraising, working on their courses, and promoting the event. (Did you read the articles in DGW and Disc Golf Magazine?)

I know it is going to be an amazing, fun, challenging event and they are going to do a super job with amenities too! And so that is why I sent my entry fee in back in March and have my hotel room already reserved!

There are over 300 people on the waitlist which opens up in the next week or so. So I encourage you to send in your entry now and guarantee your spot if you were invited! They are going to put on quite the show and it will most certainly rival Des Moines!! I�m so looking forward to being a part of it!

http://www.2006amworlds.org/courses.html

McClure is posted and if you check back through the threads they have posted pics there too.

COurse Dovillio
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/dov00145.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/MIsc036.jpg
http://ttp://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/MIsc035.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/dov00249.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/dov00248.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/dov00247.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/dov00249.jpg

I can promise you that you will enjoy at least 5 of the courses. The other I can't speak for anymore

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Well if " the other " falls thru then I want to put Chandler back in for all the shortarms, physically disabled, and people who drop out early. :D

I can rebuild it. I can make it longer than it was before. ;)

Mohawk Black, just to give you an Idea.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/dov00286.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/dov00285.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/dov00284.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/dov00275.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/dov00271.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/dov00270.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/dov00268.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/dov00266.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/dov00264.jpg

If those are good representative shots of the OK courses......advantage..........NC. Those fairways looks like football fields.

-duBBs

If those are good representative shots of the OK courses......advantage..........NC. Those fairways looks like football fields.

-duBBs



ugh....this thread was clean of N/S Carolina prima donnas until now.

You guys act like you are the only ones who have trees on your courses.

YAAAAWWWNNNNN! :p

Stirrin the pot ParkNPutt....dont worry I know where the trees are and so does my plastic.

Adam W.

Adam W?????? Where's CuTT????

Tee's look good at Dovillio! Nice job guys!

Whatt up Big Badd...I kidnapped him and stole his identity....he says whatup from the closet. For now he will have to answer through me only, anything in particular you want to know from the CUTTERZ...perhaps a prediction of the AM worlds winner?

I can promise you that you will enjoy at least 5 of the courses. The other I can't speak for anymore

:(



Well if " the other " falls thru then I want to put Chandler back in for all the shortarms, physically disabled, and people who drop out early. :D

I can rebuild it. I can make it longer than it was before. ;)



I wish we had another course worthy to change from Haikey out with NOW...Get ready LOCALS

****Haikey soon to be RIVERSIDE SOUTH**** except undoubtedly WORSE!!!

... ease off Kev ... that's wrong 'n' you're wrong to say it ...

Guys, I think we need to keep this conversation off the boards.

Thanks for the pics TwoPutt!!! Are those what you guys consider "tight" shots? Those look about average for Carolina courses. Can't wait to try 'em out. :)

I love the Cardinals, and cannot wait for Big T-Town, for the biggest get together, of disc golfers in the country.

I (obviously) love the <font color="red"> CARDS </font> too! I'm actually from Springfield and just moved here about 1 and 1/2 years ago. Although I love T-Town, I'm really just a transplant! And since I had never even heard of DG before I moved here, I must claim T-Town when talking to fellow golfers!

... ease off Kev ... that's wrong 'n' you're wrong to say it ...



Please......
Can we all ... Just get along.... :o
Please.... :D:D:D

Thank You Mr. Rodney King for you
sane imput on this matter.

Its a choice make it. :p
D.P. :cool:

Lets just keep moving along and get these courses finished. We are almost there and when they are done we can all just settle down and relax and play golf on all new equipment.

Then we can gear up and get ready for the biggest Double "O" ever. ;)

Lets just keep moving along and get these courses finished. We are almost there and when they are done we can all just settle down and relax and play golf on all new equipment.

Then we can gear up and get ready for the biggest Double "O" ever. ;)

... HEAR HEAR ...
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... truly WISE words ... :)

... and yes , the '06 O.O. will rock ... there's already things being worked on ...

... Oklahoma Open ... SuperTour ... A-Tier ... October 28 &amp; 29 , 2006 ... much more info to be divulged later ... but , re$t as$ured , a real Mon$ter ...

What about a Double O NT in '07

Middle June before/after Kansas City Wide Open

3 rounds WHITEHawk, REDHawk, BLACKhawk

FINAL 9

... v-e-r-y possible ... I know you've brought that up into recent discussions ... as our State Coordinator , you'll have to see what you can do ... ;)

If those are good representative shots of the OK courses......advantage..........NC. Those fairways looks like football fields.

-duBBs



ugh....this thread was clean of N/S Carolina prima donnas until now.

You guys act like you are the only ones who have trees on your courses.

YAAAAWWWNNNNN! :p



I don't see one entry from NC in advanced, and until I do, how about you guys shut your hole about the courses and how good you will do. The only entry from SC that I see is Paul Bergey and he is from Norman, OK. :D

Where you guys at??? :o

Don't for get to add a little bit o' w~i~n~d...to the mix! :cool: If the wind ain't your friend...you're in for a l-o-n-g week.

I don't see one entry from NC in advanced, and until I do, how about you guys shut your hole about the courses and how good you will do. The only entry from SC that I see is Paul Bergey and he is from Norman, OK. :D

Where you guys at??? :o



Never talked about how good I will do, I will see after the end of the first 6 rounds, then if I make the cut, I may talk some game. I was just poking fun about how the Carolina guys say they are so awsome in the woods.

I am hoping that with my new job I can get out to Tulsa for a weekend before the tournament and practice the courses. But I am just looking forward to a week of fun. I am not scared of the length, wind or tightness of the courses have to offer. I am just looking to throw well and be happy with a week dedicated to disc golf.

The only thing I would talk smack about is the distance contest. Billy Boy is goin' DOWN! :o

:D :D :D

when did the blue bison stamp SB Orcs again become available? were more made or were these stashed away?

i wanted one and now one is on the way :D

We had a limited supply stashed back and decided to let them go. ;)

:eek: works for me :D

Hi All,

Travel Logistics Question:

The plan is to do a long leg between Ottawa, ON and Indianapolis on our way to Tulsa with another stop in Springfield, MO on the way. Having not played the areas before, are there courses we should definitely play or definitely avoid in the Indy or Springfield, MO areas? Thanks.

:D

Brother
Ottawa Disc Golf Club (http://www.odgc.ca)

I would suggest any of the Kansas City course before Springfield...

I would stop in Des Moines lots of golf there,if you haven't been there,and I wouldn't waste my time in Springfield,stop by Waterwork in North KC.