So, Pterodactyl, you are saying if there was a limit you would cheat?

: ) :



with all those 176g small diameter drivers and aviars looks like he already is. :o;)

Ya know, I thought the same thing when I read that (and even drafted a post not at all dissimilar to yours) until I checked the "Approved Discs" list (PDF format) &amp; learned, to my amazement, that max weight for Teebirds, Monsters, &amp; Aviars <u>is</u> 176.0g.

Strangely, max weight for a TL is 175.1g. Go figger.

So, Pterodactyl, you are saying if there was a limit you would cheat?

: ) :



with all those 176g small diameter drivers and aviars looks like he already is. :o;)



You know what, I was just guessing on those 176ers. I actually don't know what the grammage was on most of them because I can't read it on them any more. (Also not a specs-o-file) I'll check my discs when I get home and edit my post if I find anything different. I just throw what I buy presuming they are legal if I can buy them. I doubt any of them are illegal.

I just throw what I buy presuming they are legal if I can buy them. I doubt any of them are illegal.


Sounds like a NFL performance-enhancing substances suspension defense. :p

Ya know, I thought the same thing when I read that (and even drafted a post not at all dissimilar to yours) until I checked the "Approved Discs" list (PDF format) &amp; learned, to my amazement, that max weight for Teebirds, Monsters, &amp; Aviars <u>is</u> 176.0g.

Strangely, max weight for a TL is 175.1g. Go figger.


whack.

The minimum i could throw and still Jam with my Level:
1-CE Valk
1-Ch Boss 175
2-Star Teebird 175
1-Ch Monster
2-KC Rocs 177
1-CH Gator 175
2-JK Aviar 175
1-BB Aviar DX Putt only

This is my bag anyways, Less is so much Better....I play better, I make better Decisions on the course.
I have a CE Roc, 1 extra Boss, 1 star Wraith, 1 Dx ram that i like in my bag, but could live with out.....
I find guys that have 20+ disc make to many mistakes on bad Disc selection and blame their bad game on Disc more than guys with say 10-15 disc. I would dare to say that more Top Pros have 10-15 disc in their bag. Only more if they carry multiple's of same mold !!!! less is more.

KC Aviar
JK Aviar
P&amp;A Aviar (beat)
CE Leopard
Star Sidewinder
KC Teebird
KC Teebird (beat)
Champ Firebird (beat)
Champ Firebird
Champ Boss
Star Excalibur
Pro Wraith
KC Roc (beat)
Z-Buzzz

So, Pterodactyl, you are saying if there was a limit you would cheat?

: ) :



with all those 176g small diameter drivers and aviars looks like he already is. :o;)



So, are we all on the same page that I am not a cheater? :eek:

So, are we all on the same page that I am not a cheater? :eek:



Well, the original question was:


What would you have in your bag if there was a 14 disc limit like the limit in golf?



If the limit was 14 discs and you carried the 16 discs you listed, I'm thinking..... :o

So, Pterodactyl, you are saying if there was a limit you would cheat?

: ) :



with all those 176g small diameter drivers and aviars looks like he already is. :o;)



So, are we all on the same page that I am not a cheater? :eek:



:D :D :D yep.

14 is too many already, in my opinion. how about a 9 disc limit? that would make things [a little] more interesting:
dx aero 165
dx cro 170
ch gator 175

ch monarch 159
star TL 170
z pred 170

dx destroyer 150
ch boss 172
ch xcal 175

So, are we all on the same page that I am not a cheater? :eek:



Well, the original question was:


What would you have in your bag if there was a 14 disc limit like the limit in golf?



If the limit was 14 discs and you carried the 16 discs you listed, I'm thinking..... :o



Oh, OK, so I am a cheater. Guess I should have read the first post. I guess I would just drop a couple drivers that I have doubled up on. :o

3x Wizahd's
4x Rocs
1x Roadrunner
3x Teebirds
2x Wraiths
1x Pred

This will be my setup going into '09.

1 1st run proto star excal (big annie bombs) 175
1 12x wraith (long hyser flips) 175
1 star max (thumbers, tomahawks, head wind hysers) 175
1 star t-bird (long smooth hyzers)175
1 champ leopard (long straight to turnover)175
1 pro beast (roller) 175
1 star gator (spikes, and short hysers, head wind inside 250)
1 old school ontario roc (short turnovers) 180
1 06 usdgc pink baby roc (all purpose inside 350') 179
1 new ace race (when it needs to end left inside 300) 176
2 11x kc rocs (1 beat in severely) and (1 slightly beat in) 180
1 star aviar driver (inside 200 that needs to end left) 175
1 ss magic (to drain those 40 footers and short up shots) 175

14 is too many already, in my opinion. how about a 9 disc limit? that would make things [a little] more interesting:
dx aero 165
dx cro 170
ch gator 175

ch monarch 159
star TL 170
z pred 170

dx destroyer 150
ch boss 172
ch xcal 175



I like the idea of a 9 disc limit. This forces some decision making.

Technical wooded course:

organic Voodoo 175
beat Warlock 174
stiff Wizard 175

Meteor 178
2nd FR Buzz 178
E Warrior 178

Monarch 175
Star Teebird (beat) 175
Z Predator (beat) 175

Open course:

organic Voodoo
stiff Wizard

Buzz
Warrior

Star Teebird
Z Predator

Star Wraith 175
Champ Boss 175
Eco-Star Xcal 175

Opto Riot 170
Star Wraith 166
CE Valk 166
Champ roadrunner 166
Vision 169
KC Roc 171 (worn in to straight flyer)
Ontario Glo roc 170 (even less stable)
dx cobra 170
champ stingray 166
(2)star aviar 174

14 is too many already, in my opinion. how about a 9 disc limit? that would make things [a little] more interesting:




I agree. I carry 13-14 normally and feel like there's too many choices.

14....
Sparkle Rogue
Proline Rogue
ESP Surge
ESP Pred (subtract for 9)
Z Pred
CE Leopard Beat (subtract for 9)
Star Leopard (subtract for 9)
Z Buzzz SS
Z Buzzz
Z Extreme (subtract for 9)
Aviar P&amp;A (subtract for 9)
Aviar Chains 91
S Wizard
SS Wizard


BTW, if you have a dog that likes to go out and play DG, definitely check out this bag:

http://www.backcountryoutlet.com/outlet/...&amp;mv_pc=r126 (http://www.backcountryoutlet.com/outlet/RUF0003/Ruffwear-Palisades-Pack-II.html?CMP_ID=SH_FRO002&amp;CMP_SKU=RUF0003&amp;mv_pc=r12 6)

It is made out of stronger material than Revolution Bags. I took Sprocket out for 5 hours with 8 discs on each side of the pack and a Nalgene Bottle on each side, and still had room for extras.

It was such a great experience bringing him (and carrying my gear) that he'll come with me whenever possible(most PDGA tournaments excluded).

1 aviar p&amp;a
2 rocs
2 star destroyer
ce leopard
old proline leopard (fast aviar)
beat to crap pro wraith
squawky the hawk surge

swap the surge out for a star max if super windy

2 Pro D Challengers
1 Star Rhyno
1 beat KC Pro Roc
1 Star Roc
1 Star Kite
1 Star Teebird
1 Star Wraith
1 Champ Boss


That Was Hard
ultimately I would decide based on the course I was playing

I carry 16 discs. If the PDGA mandated a 9-disc limit, the only change I'd make to to the bag would be to rip the "PDGA Member" tag off of it &amp; throw the tag in the trash. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

If it's a 9 disc limit...

E Spirit
SRP Raging Inferno
E Inferno

E Blaze
E Sabre

S Demon
E Element-X

Med. Wizard
Organic Voodoo

i know this thread is for 'fun' but the PDGA deciding to have special 'class' of events in this realm would've made more sense than the super class stuff. This is at least still disc golf and not an attempt to make 'frisbee golf' or 'frolf' a competitive/sanctioned sport.

my 9 would be...

11x firechicken
star Maxx
Boss

Cryztal Buzzz
Comet

4x JK Putter

and interchange the other 3 for 'specialty' holes or particular shots depending on the course

I'ts a hypothetical Ray.... step inside off the ledge.

I'ts a hypothetical Ray


As is my reply.


.... step inside off the ledge.


Actually, it's quite breezy &amp; cool out here. Quite pleasant; I think I'll stay . . .

86 mold Softie
Heavy Super Roc
Heavy Sidewinder (Champion)
Heavy Orc (Champion)
Heavy Boss (Champion)
Heavy X-Cal (Champion)

This is what I always use, but I normally carry a back-up for each because the creek here likes my stuff.

i know this thread is for 'fun' but the PDGA deciding to have special 'class' of events in this realm would've made more sense than the super class stuff. This is at least still disc golf and not an attempt to make 'frisbee golf' or 'frolf' a competitive/sanctioned sport.




I agree. Instead of super class, it should be named "lower class" or even "retro class". How about "devo class"?

maybe superclass should only be allowed to use object courses? hmm?

force beat
force
esp surge
z crush
esp crush
esp buzzz
zone
challenger
magnet

9 discs

2 Ch Firebird
2 St Teebird
2 St Wraith
2 KC Roc
1 DX Roc

Dont really need a putter since i tend to putt with an old ontario roc anyway

I'ts a hypothetical Ray


As is my reply.


.... step inside off the ledge.


Actually, it's quite breezy &amp; cool out here. Quite pleasant; I think I'll stay . . .



http://www.davidbowieisverydisappointedinyou.com/images/bowie.gif

i know this thread is for 'fun' but the PDGA deciding to have special 'class' of events in this realm would've made more sense than the super class stuff. This is at least still disc golf and not an attempt to make 'frisbee golf' or 'frolf' a competitive/sanctioned sport.

my 9 would be...

11x firechicken
star Maxx
Boss

Cryztal Buzzz
Comet

4x JK Putter

and interchange the other 3 for 'specialty' holes or particular shots depending on the course



Stack my boy, you gotta have a Whippett added. ;)

maybe superclass should only be allowed to use object courses?



You must not have been paying close attention. Chuck is already in the process of trying to have all chain assemblies removed from existing baskets, so it's pretty much heading that way. ;)

I slimmed down the bag for the winter
1st run champ boss
Night Shift Destroyer
esp pred
ce tl
sb roc
flx buzz
s sabre
E illusion
assassin
e demon
champ banshee
2 medium wizards, 1 ss wizard

Current bag:
drivers:
2 Star xcalibers, one new, one beat, long forehands that finish left
1 KC 11x Banshee, Thumbers and trick shots
2 12x firebirds, one new, one beat, forehands that finish left fast
1 CE FL, forehand flex shots
2 Star destroyers, one new, one beat, for long backhands
1 Champ destroyer, for long forehands
1 X-out Boss for max D, or flippy long forehands
1 Champ Boss, new for max D backhands
1 Star Wraith for long accurate backhands
1 Champ Wraith, beat, for turnover forehands or backhands
1 CE Eagle, very accurate windy day fairway driver
1 CE Teebird , go-to disc, for any shot requiring deadly accuracy
1 Star TL, accurate turnover fairway driver, leopardish
1 Champ Monarch, beat, great utility disc for crazy situations
Mids:
4 Rocs, different stages of wear, most midrange shots
1 Gummy spider, For any tightly wooded upshot, a lifesaver
1 Champ coyote, Staight as an arrow
4 KC Pro Aviars, All putts and some teeshots
All these discs stuffed in a Revolution dual pack

2-175g Organic Voodoos for putting
1-174g S Warlock (rubbery plastic) beat for short turnovers and hyzer flips
1-175g S Wizard (rubbery and HARD) for straight drives
1-175g E Wizard (stiff and durable) for overstable short drives

1-178 ESP Meteor for straight and turnover shots
2-178 2FR green Buzzes one beat one new, beat one does everything on calm days

1-175g 11x KC Pro Teebird for straight drives and soft hyzers
1-175g Champ Teebird that is very overstable for wind
2-175g Z Predators one new one beat for hyzers/spikes/forehands/thumbers

1-175 Champ Monarch very flippy for turnovers/rollers and strong tailwinds
1-175 Star Monarch much more stable for straight drives or long turnovers
1-175 FR Champ Boss that flips a little for D and hyzer flip shots
1-173 Champ Boss that bombs in calm conditons
1-175 Champ Boss stable for wind
1-175 Champ Xcal for windy days and big, open courses

Disc--Peed I agree with your bag almost like mine....
One question? Why putt with the Voodoo, i have tried it, what do you like over the warlock or the wizard?
and if you have not tried the New Evo Element instead of your meteor for the same shot...atleast give it a try.
Its flex-xy almost like FLX and it holds an anny line almost as much glide as my leapord and very--very controllable. b/c of the new gummy evo element i throw ce leapord for long control anny, and any thing less with the element.....

Putt:
still deciding with
S Wizards and DX BB AViar / Jk Aviar X / Kc Aviar

MID:
JK Aviar X. 2: max weight. New 1 for hyzer and windy days. 1 beat for straight shots or long anny�s.
KC Roc. 1 new, 1 beat in...strait, hyzers on calm day
CE Roc. 1..hyzer's, wind or no wind (its very over stable)
new: evo element. its like a fast buzzz. grippy and flexx: it holds a great anny line with lots of glide.
Ch Gator: stupid windy up shot
DX Ram: when only choice is to SKIP left...it does(stroke saver)

Way Long:
Str Teebird: controllable D, hyxer, sidearm.(my go to disc)
Ch Boss: new one for hyzers, skips/ beat in for Looonngg D
Ch XCAL: will fly in any wind...this disc "ain't sceered"
Star Wraith: only 1 beat in�for Pancake shots up and over (250-330ft) and I use for rollers.
New..CE Laepord: nice and controlled anny�s, goes where I point it�(like a KC Roc with rocket boosters on it)

Going slow for now...

3 Medium Wizards
1 S Magi
3 dx Rocs
1 E Sabre
1 S Blaze
1 D Control Driver
1 S Power Driver

BOOM!!!

3x Wraith (2 Champ 1 Star)
1x Eco Xcaliber
1x Z Xtreme
3x Teebird (2 DX, 1 Star)
2x Comet (1 Z, 1 ESP)
1x E Warrior
3x S Wiz
1x S Warlock

'84 Beadless Aviar
Star Aviar
Super Roc
SB Roc
Star Kite
Pro Starfire
Ultra Light Raging Inferno DT

Disc--Peed I agree with your bag almost like mine....
One question? Why putt with the Voodoo, i have tried it, what do you like over the warlock or the wizard?
and if you have not tried the New Evo Element instead of your meteor for the same shot...atleast give it a try.
Its flex-xy almost like FLX and it holds an anny line almost as much glide as my leapord and very--very controllable. b/c of the new gummy evo element i throw ce leapord for long control anny, and any thing less with the element.....



I like the rounded bottom of the Voodoo. Its mainly the feel in my hand. I also find the Voodoo possesses a little more loft than the Warlock. Basically I like the convex rim of the Wizard and I always have, I just don't like the feel or effect of the bead when putting. The Voodoo is the convex rim without the big bead. I may eventually drive with Voodoos as well as soon as I can get some in the S plastic I like for that. When it comes to driving with Gateway putters, the plastic is more important to me than the mold.

I have seen 2 different versions of the new E Element. I have a stiff white one with an herb leaf on it, and that one flies well, but I don't like the feel in my hand like the Meteor. I also find the Meteor to flip more, which I like, where the Element is a little more like my Buzz. My friend has the FLXish Element and he loves it, but I prefer stiffer plastic.

Champ Firebird
2 Star XCals 1 New one Worn
2 Destroyers Star or Pro (1 New 1 worn)
2 Star Wraiths (1 newer 1 worn )
Star Teebird
Star TL
Champ RoadRunner
1 1st Run Z BUZZZ
2 2nd 1st Run Z BUZZZ
1 Pro D Challenger
1 CryZtal Z Challenger
2 Cam Todd Challengers for putting
2 Zones ( 1 new 1 beat )
Utility
2 Z Flicks (1 New 1 Beat)
Champ Valk for Rollers

2 esp forces
2 esp nate doss surges
2 avengers 1 z, 1 esp
3 z flashes (red, first run)
2 esp avenger ss
1 flx xl
1 z flick
-
2 drones 1 d, 1 esp
2 buzzes 1 z, 1 esp
-
4 d magnets

172 g's und up

i only carry 5 different discs, 8 in all, learn these intimately don't need anything else
2 aviar BB (175, putt approach, drive
2 Valkyrie (175, Longrange, Tailwind, stillwind, anhyzer
Firebird (175, head wind, hyzer
Stratus (171, straight drive
2 Skeeter (175, everything, **anhyzer**

9 disc limit...

Star XCaliber
Star Destroyer

Champ Firebird
Star Teebird
Star Valkyrie

ESP Zone
CryZtal Buzzz
ESP Meteor

ProD Challenger

Putt:
Pro D Challenger

Mid:
ESP Buzzz
ESP Drone
ESP Meteor

Drivers:
ESP XL
Elite Z Tracker
Sparkle Rogue
ESP Predator
ESP Surge
Elite Z Surge
ESP Pulse
ESP Force

14 is tough. I could do like 8 or so molds, but I love having duplicates...

175g Organic Voodoo
174g beat Warlock

178g ESP Meteor
178g 2FR Buzz

175g 11x KC Pro Teebird
174g Champ Firebird
174g Star Monarch
175g Champ Groove
175g Champ Boss

S Wiz
S Warlock

Esp Comet
Z Comet
KC Roc

DX Teebird
Star Teebird
ECO XC
Champ Groove

I always try to keep the bag 8 discs or under. The bag I use doubles as a chair and the pouch cannot hold more than that.

Drivers:
FLX Surge
FLX Surge SS
ESP Pulse
FLX Avenger
Champion Monarch

Midrange:
FLX Drone
ESP Meteor

Putter:
FLX Challenger


Do you see a pattern in the style of plastic I like?

Z Buzzz
ESP Comet
Z Avenger x 2
Z Tracker
ESP Force
Z Flick
D Challenger x 2

my bag usually has fewer than 9 anyway, but:

magic
2 buzzes
zone
star TL
z pred
2 destroyers
champ xcal

2 jk aviars
Boss
dx avair
10x roc
11x roc
champ wraith
star destroyer
eco groove

9 huh? I still look back on the Gazelle, Roc, Tank rounds in 99-01 and am amazed at how far this sport has come and all for the beauty of a flying disc.

So:

Blue Pro Rhyno

1st Run Champ Gator

DX Ching Flatty Roc Stable
DX Ching Flatty Roc Beat
DX Stingray

CFR Destroyer
Champ Sidewinder
1st Run Champ Beast
Star Maxxx

3x KC Aviars (or Wizards)
4x KC Rocs (and 1 evo Warrior)
3x Teebirds ( 2 Teebirds)
2x Firebirds (Monster)
2x Boss

Dave and I could use the same bag sweet.

XCal
2 Destroyers
Roadrunner
Firebird
TL
BUZZZ
Challenger
Zone

magnet
challenger
zone
buzzz
buzzz
1st run esp crush
z crush
force
surge

Beat KC Aviar
Star Aviar Driver
Flippy 11x Roc
Straight 11x Roc
Champ San-Marino Roc
Straight Star Teebird
Stable Eagle-X
Echo Star Xcaliber
Echo Star Groove

I could pretty much cover every shot under the sun as far as my abilities allow with that setup.

Aviar
CE Aviar
11x Roc (very flippy)
ESP Comet
SB Roc
Champ Firebird
Pro Wraith
Star Teebird
CE TL

Crystal Challenger
Really flippy Pro D Challenger
Newish Pro D Challenger
FLX Drone
ESP Buzzz
ESP Comet
Star Max
Star Tee Rex
Champ Groove
Star Destroyer
2 x Star Wraith
Star Roadrunner
Champ Sidewinder

This IS my bag, so I guess I am always at the 14 disc limit, if there was one. :cool:

2 DX Aviar P&amp;A
1 D Zone (into a head wind it acts like a putter, this disc is great)
2 Buzzzs one beat, one stable (ESP,FLX, or Z)
1 ESP Wasp
3 Teebirds (from roller to newish in dx, star, champ, whatever)
2 Predators (174 ESP for wind, 168 FLX for shots that are a little longer/lefter than optimal for a teebird. also for forehands)
1 Star Teerex (semi-beat, use it for long forhands)
1 Champ Boss or Star Wraith (consistent stable max d, long hyzers)
1 Trashed Pro Wraith (for anny distance lines)

9 disc lineup:

Warlock
Wizard
Star Whippett
CE Warrior
DX Roc
CE Sabre
11x Firebird
Champ Xcal
Champ Boss

SK

SS Warlock - Main Putter
S Eraser Wizard (2) DD Stamp - Stable to Understable Approaches/Drives &gt;300
S Magic - Touch/Turnover Approaches
S Voodoo - Longer Stable Wizard Shots
DX Aviar (Beat)
KC Pro Roc (2) - Overstable to Straight Approaches &gt;320
CE Warrior DD Stamp (totally clear) - Overstable Drives &gt;325
CE Element - Straight to Turnover Drives and Approaches &gt;320
DX Roc (Beat) - Flippy/Turnover Approaches
KC Pro Whippet - Utility Shots (sidearm, overhand, skippers, etc.)
CE Sabre DD Stamp - Controlled Drives &gt;340
CE Blaze DD Stamp - Controlled Hyzers &gt;330
E Assassin - Straight Drives, Long Sweeping Hyzers
Champion Beast - Long Turnovers/Rollers
1x Champion "Barry" Beast DD Stamp - Flip Up Straight Drives
11x Glow Champion Firebird DD Stamp (2) - Sidearms, Overhands, Long Flat Hyzers
Champion XCaliber - Windy Max D Driver, Longer Faster Hyzers
First Run Champion Boss - Max D w/o wind, Downwind D, Flip Up LONG drives
I-Dyed Champion Boss - BOMBS

All in White/Grey Revolution Backpack with DD Patch, DD Towel and Sweet Roc Patch.

A big thanks to Dave Mac @ Gateway and Jeremy @ Dynamic Discs!!

SK

10x KC Aviar
11x KC Aviar
CE Firebird
Star Teebird
CE TL
Glo Roc x2
Champion Orc
SB Orc

Putters:
2 KC Aviar
Star BB Aviar
DX Rhyno
Pig
2 SSS Wizard

Mids:
Ontario Roc - beat
11x KC Roc - beat
2 San Marino Roc ( Star, DX ) - straight
Champ Roc - overstable

Drivers:
3 Teebirs (Pro, Star, 11x Champ)
2 Eagle X's (Star, 11x Champ)
2 Star Grooves (Flippy long range duties)
1 Boss (others in rotation, straight low long distance)
1 Xcaliber (overstable duties)
1 11x Champ FIrebird (overhand duties)

been out for over 3 months due to shoulder surgery. mixed up short discs in the bag during during this down time, and will try it out at the memorial, if my shoulder can handle 3 rounds. should be interesting.

soft magics- putting and touch shots
buzzes- D and Z for most shots under 300
zones- overstable upshots/sidearms

star TL
Z-pred

DX and Pro destroyers

_____________________
First Run Red ESP Surge
Blue Z Sparkle Rogue
Proline Rogue Beat
____________________
First Run Pink ESP Pred
Original Mold Z Predator
Champion Xcallibur
_________________________
Merlot Champion Boss Max D
Champion Groove (Long TBird)
2nd Run CE Leopard Beat
Star Leopard
___________
Z Buzzz New
Z Buzzz SS New
Z Buzzz SS Beat
_____________
Avar P&amp;A Beat
Aviar P&amp;A
Soft Wizard
SS Glow Wizard

I trimmed some fat off my bag and cycled in some new stuff. I switched out my Z Preds. In their place I throw an overstable Teebird (more predictable than my broken in Pred for the same jobs) and a Champ Firebird for my new Pred b/c its more overstable and slower for approaches.
So far i'm not missing them.

2-175g Organic Voodoos for putting
1-174g S Warlock (rubbery plastic) beat for short turnovers and hyzer flips
1-175g S Wizard (rubbery) for straight/overstable drives

1-178 ESP Meteor for straight and turnover shots
2-178 2FR green Buzzes one beat one new, beat one does everything on calm days

1-175g 11x KC Pro Teebird for straight drives and soft hyzers
1-175g Champ Teebird that is very overstable for wind
1-174g Champ Firebird (spikes, utility, thumbers, wind)

1-175 Champ Monarch very flippy for turnovers/rollers and strong tailwinds
1-174 Star Monarch more stable for straight drives or long turnovers
1-174 Champ Groove (replaced Wraith-controlled D)
1-175 Star Boss (max D)
1-175 Champ Boss stable for wind

Here we go again!

Distance-
3x Star boss (1 being Nightshift)

Fairway/Control-
2x KC 10xs one beat one new
1x Champ 11x Seasoned
2x KC 11x Beat and New
1x Glow DX Beat
1x 1st Run Z Xtreme

Mids-
2x Comet 1 ESP 1 Z

Putters-
2x Medium Big G stamps For putting
2x M for driving

Discin' with baby:

1x Pro Leopard
1x Pro Starfire
1x KC Teebird

2x DX Roc
1x Pro Shark

1x JK Aviar

Distance:
173g Star Boss (headwind)
175g Champ Boss (no wind, flex shots)
172g Champ Groove (tailwind, hyzer-flip)
175g EStar XCal (long and straight for narrow fairways)
175g Roadrunner (long rollers)

Fairway/Control:
175g Star FB (hyzers)
175g Star Max (hyzer-flips with skip)
175g Z Pred (predictable, controlled flex shots)
175g Champ TB (newish, must-have upshots)
175g Champ TB (beat, long Roc)
170g Pro Beast (hyzer-flip anhyzers)
175g DX Stingray (fairway rollers)

Mids:
178g Z Comet (dead straight with no wind/tailwind)
180g 10X KC Roc (whatever I need in the wind)
180g Star Roc (hyzer finish)
180g Q Sentinel (wind)

Putters:
175g KC Aviar x2 (putting only)
175g DX Aviar (black, jump putts and tailwind upshots)
175g D Challenger (most upshots 100-225ft)
175g Pro Aviar (wind)

Miscellaneous:
175g X-out Champ XCal (forehand distance)
175g Z Xtreme (big Z stamp, beat, thumbers)
175g Z Xtreme (Aces stamp, new, spikes and short forehands)
175g Pro Pig (still learning it)

Drivers:
2x Star Destroyers
1x DX Wraith
1x Champion Boss
3x Champion Eagles
2x Dx/ Champion Viking
1x Champion Banshee

Midrange:
2x Roc
2x Gator

P &amp; A:
1x dx Aviar
2x Big Bead Aviar

Lots of multiples mainly just in case I lose one and to make sure I always have a disc close behind if one gets too beat up.

Recently simplified the bag a bit....liking the results......

Distance Drivers:
First Run Champion Boss (long hyzer flips, downwind drives)
Pre-Release Star Boss (flat S, slight headwind)
Champ XCal (headwind, big hyzers)
Pro Wraith (controlled D)
Champion DD 1x Beast (long turnovers, straight hyzer flips)
Champion 2x Beast (anything that HAS to finish right)

Fairway Drivers:
Champion EL (2) (straight to flippy control drives)
11x Champ DD Glow Firebird (flat hard hyzers, sidearm duty)
11x Champ Firebird (Do it all: hyzers, overhands, forehand rollers)
CE Sabre (Narrow gaps, very straight)

Mid Range:
ROCS!! (2 KC Pro, DX, Ontario)
CE Warrior (Slow OVERSTABLE approaches/drives)
Star Whippet X (Utility disc)
KC Pro Whippet X (Utility disc when impact is probable)

Putters:
SS Warlock (inside the circle)
SS Magic (jumpers/understable approaches) - Great Jump Putt Disc!!
Glow S Wizard (stable approaches/short drives)

All loaded up in a Snow/Black Revolution Backpack.

SK

dx aero 171 - putts and short approaches

star gator 175 - short overstable disc
dx roc 178 - most long approaches and short drives
meteor 166 - turning long approaches and drives (new favorite disc)

star tl 172 - longer dx roc
z-pred 170 - control/hyzer driver

r-pro boss 150 - sick long disc in the right conditions
pro destroyer 169 - long driver, newer ones are beefy enough for some wind/forehand use

Putting:
Pro Rhyno 175
Champ glow Avair 175 (for jump putting and drives)

Approach/Short Drives
Champion Gator 175 (Original mold)
"CE" Rhyno 175 (Over stable)
Pro Rhyno 175 (stable)
Pro Rhyno 175 (Understable)

Mids
2008 skeet Roc 180 (over stable)
12x KC pro Roc 180 (stable)
Ontario Roc 180 (understable)
RW-Pro Rancho Roc 180 (Super Flip)

Fairway driver
11x KC Teebird 175
Latitude 64 Striker 175
Champion Glow Whippet-X 175

Drivers
Champion Glow Firebird FX 175 (11x mold)
Star Boss 175
Champion Glow Destroyer 175
Echo Star Wraith 175
Echo Star Excalibur 175
Pro Destroyer 175

Trick Disc
Champion Roadrunner 175 (Roller}
Champion Max 175 (Over hands)
Champion Boss 175 (First Run) (Stable back hand roller) (Hyzer flip)

Regards
-Chris A
38608

3-4x Boss
4x PD
2x CE Leopard
1x Z Xtreme
3-4x Comet
1x Summit
3x PD

Just updated the bag... took some things out and added in some new ones!

Drivers:
165 Wraith - Tailwind D / Flippy
175 Wraith NEW - Straight D
175 Eco Star Wraith - D with left fade
Xcalibur - Windy D
Firebird - Overhand and Trick shots

Control Drivers:
11x Teebird - Overstable
11x Teebird - Loooooooong
Star Teebird - S Shots
1st Run Pro Teebird - Flippy

Midranges:
Star Roc - Overstable
San Marino - Straight
New DX - Straight to Left
11x Roc - Flippy
11x Roc - Flippy

Putters:
JK Aviar - Butter Putter
Jk Aviar - Backup Putter, Driver
Jk Aviar - Stable Driver
JK Aviar - Straight to Right Driver
CE Rhyno - Hard Hyzers
Old Aviar PnA - Flip Duty

Putters: SE Rhyno (somewhat stable still); DX Rhyno that's beat to death and feels like SE

Mids: ESP Comet, DX Stratus (finesse rollers), X-Wasp, MRX (straighter than wasp)

Finesse drivers: 160 G KC Pro Gazelle, SOLF (one that turns slightly, one that is stable)

Long shots: Z-Flash, Mirus, Star Wraith, ESP Force, Star Sidewinder (roller only)

Overstable shots: ZPred, ESP Pred, FLX Pred, Z-Xtreme

In tryout mode: Stalker, Groove, Meteor (although I love my ESP Comet)

Would like to try soon (no $): Zone, Striker, Boss


My favorite molds are Orion LF and Predator. If I had an endless batch of LF's I think I could throw entire rounds using them for every drive.
Wish Dave D. would run some more KC Pro or CE Gazelles, even as a fundraiser. Very underrated control disc in my opinion.

1 174g Opto XXX (thumbers, spikes and hyzers
1 174g Ch Eagle-X (sidearms, flat hyzers)
2 174g KC Teebirds (control shots up to 380)
1 174g Ch TL (flat shots or slight turnovers)
2 174g St Eco Xcalibers (Max D hyzers)
3 174g St Wraith (controlled distance)
1 174g Ch Wraith (big hyzer flips, rollers)
4 180g KC Rocs (hyzer to slight turnovers)
2 180g DX Rocs (turnovers and fluff shots)
1 175g X-link VP (hyzer, uphill putts, turbos)
2 174g KC Aviar (most putting duties)
1 174g DX Aviar (approaches, short drives, flop putts)
1 176g 86 Softie (touch approaches, jump putts sort turnovers, trick shots)

Side bar
1 176g Z Drone
1 175g CE Demon

Currently testing
172g Opto Blitz
174g Opto Striker
174g Opto Trident
176g Z Stalker
174g S PD
174g S DD
174g X-link Summit

Power Drivers x3
Cyclones x2
Rocs x3
Wizards x4

OK, Haven't done this in a while.

Orange/Tan Fade Bag with:

2x S Voodoos (173 Green & 174 Red)
2x Star Cros (172 Pink DX Stamp & 173 Blue 1st Run Stamp)
1x Champ Viper (Red)
1x Champ Whippet (Yellow - 175g)
1x Star Whippet (Blue - 172g)
1x KC Banshee (Aqua/Green - 174g - Rollers)
1x Glow Champ Banshee (173g - Thumbers & Forehand)
1x CE Firebird (Red 173g FX)
1x Pro(candy) Firebird (Yellow 174g)
1x Glow Champ Firebird (173g Monkey Island)
1x CE Teebird (Yellow - 171g)
1x CE Teebird-L (Yellow - 173g)
1x Star Max (Yellow - 172g - Just added this weekend)
1x Champ Max (Yellow - 175g)
1x Champ XCaliber (Yellow - 173g)
1x Glow Champ XCaliber (Yellow - 173g)
1x EcoStar Wraith (Yellow - 172g - Just added this weekend)
3x Star Destroyer (Blue 171 Beat, Blue 171 Very OverStable,Tye-Dye 170 Neutral)
1x R-Pro Boss (White - 161g - Just added this weekend to try)

Also have my Innova Deluxe Bag (just started using the Fade last week) with an almost identical setup in it (minus about 4 discs).

166g newish floppy rubber Vibram VP (brown) - go to putter
150g seasoned DX Goblin (red) - uphill & tailwind putts
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171g beat 11x KC Pro Aviar (white) - understable/straight approach
171g newish 12x KC Pro Aviar (black) - straight/overstable approach, overhand putts
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172g superbeat DX Gremlin (baby blue) - very understable midrange
169g seasoned DX Gremlin (red) - slightly understable/straight midrange
166g seasoned STAR Gremlin (white) - straight/slightly overstable midrange
169g seasoned ProLine Gremlin (orange) - overstable midrange
171g seasoned Champ Whippet-x (clear) - massively overstable midrange, skippers, max D thumbers & tommies, underhands, cut rollers
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149g superbeat DX Wraith (orange)- very understable fairway/max D driver
150g seasoned gummy ProLine Leopard (blue)- understable fairway driver
150g seasoned gummy Champion Teebird (green) - straight fairway driver
146g newish gummy Champion Banshee (clear) - overstable fairway driver, pinpoint thumbers & tommies
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152g newish gummy Champion Monarch (green) - understable max D driver, rollers
150g new R-Pro Katana (white) - auditioning
150g seasoned R-Pro Boss (pink) - straight max D driver
148g seasoned gummy Champion Firebird (pink) - overstable max D driver, medium range thumbers & tommies, rollers

1 172g Pro Destroyer, flippy
1 175g Pro Destroyer, beefy
1 172g Star Destroyer, neutral

1 172g Champion Teebird, hyser
1 175g Star TL, fairway
1 174g SE TL, turnovers/roller
1 175g KC Banshee, short hyser/thumber

1 177g Z-Buzzz, mid range

1 175g Soft Wizard, approach
1 175g Pro-D Challenger, turning approach
1 175g Soft Magic, jump putts
1 175g SSS Magic, putts

DX Beadless Aviar
Star Aviar
Super Roc
SB Roc
Star Kite
Pro Starfire

Drivers:
Star Teerex 170g (backhand)
Champion Groove 171g (forehand)
Star Valkyrie 157g (backhand)
Star Wraith 167g (backhand)

Mid Range:
Discraft Elite Z Wasp

This is pointless, but what the hell.

Putters:
175g Aviar P&A x2 (new only use for putting)
175g Aviar P&A x2 (one more, one less beat. throw whenever possible)
174g Zone (replaces the aviar for putts or hyzer shots into god-awful wind)

Mid-range
FLX Buzzz x3 (one new and heavy, one straight and beatish, one trashed)
I use these for many drives and forehand approaches

Fairway Drivers
Teebird x3 (Usually I have a stable one in some premium plastic 170-175g and a few 175g DXs in various degrees of wear. Now I have one a dog chewed on. It's great for long turn-overs or flat air-balls that flip and hold right forever. )

FLX Predator x2 (one new, one beat, both lightish 168-172g, for fade shots, wind, and sidearm drives/tricky forehand upshots involving lots of curvature)

Distance Discs: The other discs in my bag stay, distance discs are a flavor of the month kind of thing. I like the ones I have now though:
170g Champ Boss (use it more than any other)
155g R-Pro Boss (standing shots, up hill, less fade, occasionally longer)
166g FLX Surge (beat to hell, awesome glide, up hill, standing shots, go to for big turnovers, tailwind)
172g Star X-Cal (doesn't get much use, but when into head-wind this thing is really dependable)

3, 175 kc aviars- all same wear
3, 177, 178, 180 kc rocs- flip straight hyzer
1,175 star aero- high slow turnovers
1, 175 star roadrunner- all things rolling
1, 175 dx leopard- hyzerflip tunnel shots & rolls
1, 171 CE leopard- long late flips and low tight fairways
1, 175 CE leopard- anything I want it to do and still be in the fairway
1, 175 champ teebird- beat, need I say more
1, 175 BSF champ glow teebird- stable fairway driver, money
1, 175 champ firebird, headwinds spike hyzers tricky tricky
1, 175 champ orc- sidearms
1, 175 star wraith- hyzer to helix bombs and high hyzer bombs
1, 175 champ wraith- domey stable reliable
1, 175 beat star destroyer- hyzer flip flat low ceiling bombs
1, 171 star boss- mid max D
1, 175 star boss- new max D with more hyzer finish and skip
1 champ glow aviar mini custom aerospace stamped with pdga # and name
Some dirt and other assorted goodies.
Does anybodyevenread these or do we all just go right to listing our own?

I read them.

Beat Merlot First Run Champ Boss
New Merlot First Run Champ Boss
Beat Z Sparkle Rogue
New Z Sparkle Rogue
First Run ESP Surge
ESP Avenger
Beat First Run ESP Predator
Champion Xcalliber
Beat Z Buzzz SS
New Z Buzzz SS
E-Warrior
Z Sparkle Stalker
Beat Chains Aviar P&A
01 CE Aviar
Beat S Wizard
New S Wizard
Beat SS Glow Wizard

I throw:
3 Wraiths 175 yellow, Star, Pro, DX
3 Rogues 168-172 yellow
1 Pulse 171 yellow, thumbers

4 Comets yellow, ESP, T-pro, X

Voodoo 174 Red S
Magics 171 Red SSS

I try to keep it simple, because I'm not good at making decisions.

Innova makes the Best Disc:

High Speed:
1. Domey CFR 175 Destroyer (Sweet distance...
2. 175 CFR XC (great D into and with Windy cond)

Fairway Drvrs:
3.old CE Leapord (greatest touch driver, anny and strait wow the best)
4.Star Teebird 2 in bag 175 (most controllable, throw every chance i get)
5.Star 170 Teebird ( i can flip this mug for serious controllable Distance...420ft i can put it in a 15 ft circle)sweeet action
6.175 Champion Eagle when theres just to much wind for my Teebirds.
7.CFR 175 Max, what wind.....the wind calms when you pull this guy out

MidRange:
8. KC / Star Rocs 177-180 (Flippy, annys
9. Champion Rancho Roc 180 (when you need a Hyzer Roc.
10. Cryzztal Buzzz 177 : wow inbetween anny roc and overstable roc (just goes strait)
when u need strait tunnel this is it)
11. Ch Gator 175 (best windy upshot disc there is for controlling your power arm. this disc has taught me to control finesse.

Putt:
12. DX BB AViar (aviard driver in DX) wow best putter ever made, better grip than popular KC putter but harder to find. KC's to slick for me. Wow great putter.If you like the wizard i dare you to try to DX BB Aviar Driver.
13. JK Aviar X 175 (2 of them a beat up one i can anny for days about as far as my rocs. a brand new one i can drive with and strait or hyzer any where i want up to 300 ft.

I throw:
3 Wraiths 175 yellow, Star, Pro, DX
3 Rogues 168-172 yellow
1 Pulse 171 yellow, thumbers

4 Comets yellow, ESP, T-pro, X

Voodoo 174 Red S
Magics 171 Red SSS

I try to keep it simple, because I'm not good at making decisions.


best thing you can ever do for your game. John Houcks slogan for millinium disc golf, keep it simple. Most top pros will tell you to only have disc that you need in bag, less options create a better player. make the disc do what you want, dont carry a disc for every type of known shot, less is waaayyy more.

2 176 E Spirit (hyzer, side arms, thumbers)
2 174 St Destroyer (stabilized, control hyzer, flat shots))
2 174 St Wraith (control, woods)
1 174 Pro Destroyer (Max D)
2 174 CE Savage (control hyzer, flat shots up to 360)
2 174 CE Apache (slow turns, tail winds)
1 174 Ch Valkyrie (rollers, trick shots)
2 174 CE Demon (hyzers, side arms, trick shots)
2 175 E Sabre (mid-range hyzers, flat shots up to 330)
2 180 CE Warrior (straight mid-range shots with very little fade))
2 180 E Element (flat to turn over mid-range shots)
3 174 S Wizard (all drives within 280, jump putts)
2 174 KC Aviar (Black, Putts within 30, never thrown for drives of upshots)
1 177 86 Softie (all putts within 60 and touch approaches)

Wanting to try
174+ CE Sabres
174+ CE Blazes
174+ CE Wizards

Think I have finally wittled by bag down to exactly what I need...

Elite Z Predator
Champion Stafire
E Apache
Champion TeeBird
DX TeeBird
E Demon
S Demon
Z Buzzz
D Buzzz
M Wizard
SS Voodoo

Alright, I'll play:

Black Rev Dual Pack with Garden City Flyers patch on it

1 EcoStar Xcaliber (Green, 175)
1 EcoStar Wraith (Green, 175)
1 Star Wraith (Blue, 175)
1 Star Sidewinder (Light blue, 172)
3 Star Teebirds (Yellow, blue, red, all 175)
1 Champ Gator (Orange First Run, 175)
1 DX Stingray (Red, 180)
1 DX Rancho Roc (Orange, 180)
2 DX San Marino Rocs (Blue, yellow, both 180)
1 Star Classic Roc (White, 175)
1 Champ Rhyno (Blue, 175)
3 DX Aviars (Yellow, yellow, red, all 175)

2 soft wizards 172
3 dx rocs 175+
star gator 175
3 teebirds (171ish-2 dx, 1 champ)
2 z preds 172
3 bosses (150 r-pro, 166 pro, 175 pro)

Yellow Innova Competition Bag wiht Phoniex Quads

Drivers
1st Run Champ Sidewinder
2006 CFR Champ Wraith
2 star Destroyers one flip Hyzer one domey and beefy
1st Run Champ Boss
Star Boss
11x Fire Bird
2 CE Fire Birds One champ plastic one Old school CE

Fairway Drivers
CE Teebird (bout to take out)
11x KC Pro Cheetah
CE Leopard

Mid Range
1st Run Star DX stamped Cro
2 Champ Classic Rocs
Dx Classic Roc
1st Run Champ Gator (New to bag and still figuring it out)

Putter
2 JK Aviar-X

All disc are yellow of course!

3 D Challengers
1 D Zone
4 Z Buzzzes
2 Z Stalkers
2 ESP Surges
1 Z Surge SS
1 ESP Force
1 Z Avenger SS
1 ESP Flick

All nice and comfy in a Revo Carolina

1 11x Firebird 175g super over-stable
3 Bosses, 1 Champion 175g, 1 r-pro 164g, and 1 pro 168g
1 First run Destroyer 170g perfectly tuned
1 Champion Glow Wraith 175g
1 star Valkyrie 170g that's beat
3 Teebirds 175g, stable, neutral, and under-stable
1 CE TL 175g that's beat
2 Z Buzzzes 178g stable and under-stable
1 cryztal Z Buzzz 178g neutral
1 dx glow roc 180g that's beat
1 first run Meteor 177g
2 KC Aviars 175g for putting only
2 r-pro Aviars 175g for approach and drives, one new and one neutral
1 ching stamped dx Aviar 175g for under-stable shots

Why not?

3x Force Z and X
2x Katana Champ and Pro
2x Avenger Z and X
1x Firebird 11x Champ
1x Z Xtreme
1x Z Buzzz
2x 1st run Comet
2x Magnet D
3x VP Firm Proto

I keep a stock of 172 Champion Wraiths, and Champion Eagles.

I keep a 168 DX Wraith, 166 DX Eagle, a KC Pro 168 ROC.

166 R-Pro Aviar

DX Hydra

"D" Drivers

170 X Force
172 ESP Force
173 ESP Force
172 SOS
171 SOLS
170 SOLS


Fairway Drivers

173 CE FX
174 11x Champ FB
172 Star EagleX
169 10x EagleX
173 Proto Z Stalker
175 Proto Z Stalker


Mids

174 X Comet
177 Z Comet (Old Run Z)
170 Z Buzzz
176 Z Buzzz

Putters

174 S Wizard
172 S Wizard

Distance Drivers
171 Star Destroyer (primary driver)
171 Pro Destroyer
173 Champion Destroyer
172 Sidewinder (Turnover, Roller)
173 TeeRex (Upwind)

Fairway Drivers
174 Star/Champion Firebird (thumber)
174 Star TeeBird
174 Elite Z Cyclone

Midrange
177 Star San Marino Roc
177 KC Pro Roc
180 DX Roc
175 Star Shark
177 DX Stingray

P&A
175 Pro Pig
175 JK Aviar X
172 Wizard SSS (Primary Putter)

Specialty
175 Champ Glow Whippet (Spike Hyzer, Thumber)
175 Star Max (Wind, Flick)

Does anybodyevenread these or do we all just go right to listing our own?

I don't think anyone reads them

I do I like to see what the trends are.
anyways.
I shot 12 down on pretty hard course and set new course record..
I played with my Star Teebird, KC Roc and my Aviar X Only.....
# disc and I shot course record. Les is better.
I dont always do this, I just shot with some guys and tried it...I guess it worked.

and yes the course has distance. 2 par 4's and 1 par 5

I'll give it a shot...

2 Star Wraiths
1 Star SL
1 Discraft Stalker
1 Pred
2 Avenger SS (anhyzer disc)
2 BUZZZ-d
1 Wasp
1 Stingray
2 Gateway Wizards
1 Aviar
1 Rattler

Any thoughts?

new bigger bag:

3 soft s wizards 172ish
4 dx rocs 177ish
2 star gator 175

3 dx teebirds 169ish
2 star firebirds 161/175

4 bosses (r-pro 150, pro 166/175, champ 174)

Sidearm Drivers:

2 Z Flicks
1 ESP Force
1 Crush

Backhand Drivers:

2 Stalkers
2 Surges
2 Forces
1 Predator
1 Elite Z XL

Mids:
2 Buzzzes (maybe a Wasp)
1 Drone

Putters:

2 Challengers (one for putting and one for upshots)

In my bag is:
1 175g Echo Excaliber ( long distance and left skip )
1 169g Destroyers (long distance right to left)
2 175g Some Beat up Champion Beasts ( distance left to righty's )
1 171g ProLine DGA Rogue ( long,straight,fast & reliable disc )
2 180g DX Rocs ( one brand new and one seasoned )
1 171g Valkyrie ( another straight flier with great glide )
1 175g Champion Leopard ( currently working in but don't use it much )
3 175g KC Pro Aviars ( for consistent putting practice )
1 171g DX Aviar ( straight down the gut )
1 169g DX Aviar ( slight right fade )
1 175g DX Hydra ( just can't get rid of her )

One of my resolutions are to cut down what I carry. Anything I need to think about? I of course tell myself that each disc has a purpose but.. I'm pretty sure I could cut out some.

Z Force (3): One domey and very stable. Two slightly worn in and great strait flyers.
ESP Pulse (2): One fresh and stable, the other beat and my best control forehand disc.
Z Surge (2): One super beat for rollers, one fresh for long turnovers.
Predator (3): 1 domey ESP for long hyzers, 1 domey Z for same purpose, 1 flat ESP for ridiculous stability.

Z Tracker: Finally beat (2005 Players Cup) and strait flyer for longish backhands.
Z Reaper: Great utility disc, strait or hyzer, backhand and forehand.
Z XS: Rollers and turnovers.
Z XL: Fresh, longer strait shots with a bit of turn.

ESP Nebula: 300' and in hyzer shots that start out strait but hold a great fade.
Z Buzzz: Really stable buzzz, almost too stable...
ESP Impact: Shorter strait shots, or medium range turnovers.
ESP Meteor: Short rollers and quickly flipping or late turnover shots.

Pro D Ringer (2): Main Putter and approach within 150'.

I'm pretty happy with my bag and I feel I have all the shots I need. I would like a seasoned buzzz in the bag, but they are hard to beat in (too dang nice of plastic!). I've been playing with the soft focus as a potential putter, it feels GREAT in the hand.

Star Aviar
SB Roc
Super Roc
Star Kite
Pro Starfire
Pro Katana

Beat this (...or laugh if you must),

1 Z Force
1 FLX Predator
1 FLX Avenger SS
1 FLX Surge (beat to a greater understability than the Avenger SS)
1 "gummy" Sharpshooter # 1
2 Arrows
7 Epics

Karl
Ps: With a ESP Nuke looking for a opening to 'crack the line up'

2 Polaris LS, used for rollers - 1 stable and 1 understable
KC Roc
Super Roc
Glow Original SM Roc-1989 - sweeeet disc
2 Omega SS - main putter and backup
Champion Aero
CE Aero
Star Aviar
Original 1983 Eagle - for specialty turnover shots
2 R-Pro Boss - 150 Class - Still trying to learn them, but when throw right, will go a loooooong way (thanks to Ron the Silly Man for that tip).
Champion Orc
Star Boss
Champion Boss

Today I've got...

1-174g SS Organic Voodoo
2-175g Medium S Voodoos

2-177g Meteors
2-178 & 180g Proline Aftershocks

3-175g Z Stalkers
1-175g XXX

2-175g P-PDs
1-175g S-PD

1-169g Goldline Halo
1-174g Opto Halo

166g newish X-Link "rubber vomit" Vibram VP (brown) - go to putter
150g newish DX Goblin (red) - uphill & tailwind putts
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167g new X-Link Vibram Ridge (green) - auditioning
171g beat 11x KC Pro Aviar (white) - straight approach
171g newish 12x KC Pro Aviar (black) - overstable approach, overhand putts
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172g superbeat DX Gremlin (baby blue) - very understable midrange
169g seasoned DX Gremlin (orange) - slightly understable/straight midrange
166g seasoned STAR Gremlin (white) - straight/slightly overstable midrange
169g seasoned ProLine Gremlin (orange) - overstable midrange
171g seasoned Champ Whippet-x (clear) - massively overstable midrange, skippers, max D thumbers & tommies, underhands, cut rollers
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152g newish gummy Champion Monarch (green) - understable fairway driver, rollers
150g seasoned gummy ProLine Leopard (blue)- understable/straight fairway driver
150g seasoned gummy Champion Teebird (green) - straight/overstable fairway driver
146g newish gummy Champion Banshee (clear) - overstable fairway driver, pinpoint thumbers & tommies
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150G newish R-Pro Katana (white) - understable max D driver
150g seasoned R-Pro Boss (pink) - straight max D driver
149g newish gummy Champion Firebird (orange) - overstable max D driver, medium range thumbers & tommies, rollers

Putters
JK Pro Aviar (x2)

Midrange
Champ Glow Roc
KC Pro Roc
Flat Top Ching Roc
Champion Spider
Champion Gator
D-XL (shorty rollers)

Drivers
Champion Glow Destroyer
Pro Destroyer (x2)
Star Teerex
Champion Glow Teebird (x2)
Champion Glow Firebird
Champion Monster
Champion Sidewinder (x2)

Beat this (...or laugh if you must),
7 Epics


Why would you have 7 of any disc in your bag, let alone 7 Epics?

Maybe he plays on a course where the indigenous population of immature humans beg for plastic scraps, and he carries them to satisfy their plastic craving, without sacrificing any of the plastic that he actually values.

Putters:
170g Putt'r (very beat) - standard putts and turbo twist putts
170g "Hands" Aviar - hyzer putts, headwind putts, short approaches
172g 1983 WDGC Shuttle Puppy - absolutely straight airbounce 40-100 footers
180g Star Aero - heavy wind putting (situational)

Midranges:
167g gummy QMS - straight or anhyzer short drives/approaches
150g Japan Open Champ San Marino Roc - short hyzer drives/approaches
165g Champ Stingray - turnover approaches/drives
[insert Mako here once I find one lighter than 167g]

Drivers:
150g gummy Champ Leopard - shorter straight/anhyzer drives
153g Champ TeeBird - short-to-mid hyzer/straight drives
150g gummy Champ Sidewinder - goto distance driver, hyzer-flip/turnover driver
155g gummy Champ Valkyrie - goes straight after the hyzer-flip, a little better upwind
154g Champ Orc - hyzer-flip driver with predictable fade at the end
157g 1st-run Champ Beast - straight drives with predictable fade, wind-resistant
160g Champ Sidewinder - very straight, surprisingly good in the wind, great roller
160g Champ Starfire - hyzer and flex drives
157g Japan Open R-Pro Katana - experimenting with loooong hyzer-flip drives
143g Japan Open R-Pro XCaliber - freakishly stable light disc, hyzer and flex drives

??????
160g Zephyr - slow, floating approaches and short drives - super straight with NO fade

Putters
2 JK aviars for putting and stable upshots
2002 ODOC aviar straight
glow aviar flippy

Mids aka rocs
Big Bird Ontario flipppy
Big Bird Rancho flippy
KC 10x straight
KC 11x soft stable
Champ glow battle roc super stable

Drivers
3 USDGC first run bosses stable to flippy
Champ Xcaliber stable
SDS destroyer stable
star wraith flippy
star firebird stable
champ beast super flippy
CE teebird straight
CE leopard flippy
2 pro leopards straight to flippy

The contents of my bag is even more old school than rizbee's......, still,.... there is a Champ D in it....

The contents of my bag is even more old school than rizbee's......, still,.... there is a Champ D in it....

Yeah, but you should see Hosfelds's. Dude's got a 71-mold from Toronto World's, a Hammer, an 86 softie and a few other gems. I was looking to see if he had a Wally...

3-4 Predators (Flx, Z, X)
ZXtreme
ESP Force
Z Flick
Groove
Z-Flash
Star Sidewinder
KC Pro Gazelle
Stalker
ESP Wasp
ESP Meteor
ESP Comet
SE Rhyno
DX Rhyno

auditions ongoing for Ringer (using it for short upshots, FH putts), sometimes carry an ESP Tracker; wanting to try Boss or R-Pro Boss, maybe to replace Groove.

Jerry,

You said "Why would you have 7 of any disc in your bag, let alone 7 Epics?"

I just have a penchant for throwing overhands!! :)



Exczar,

You said "Maybe he plays on a course where the indigenous population of immature humans beg for plastic scraps, and he carries them to satisfy their plastic craving, without sacrificing any of the plastic that he actually values."

BAD Exczar !! ;)

153g Champion T-Bird
172g Star Leopard
175g Star Wraith

175g Star Whippet
180g Champion Roc
180g DX Roc
178g Pro Shark
175g DX Coyote

175g R-Pro Aviar

1 ESP Predator (flat top, crazy stable)
2 Z Flick (hyzer, flat hyzers, side arms, thumbers)
3 Z Stalker (glow slight hyzer, 2 Z for stable drives and turnovers)
1 ESP Avenger SS (hyzer flip rollers)
2 ESP Pulse (woods control drives)
2 ESP Surge (straight control driver)
1 ESP Force (gail force wind, side arms)
2 Z Force (long control distance, wind)
1 ESP Nuke (where ditance matters most and accuracy doesn't)
1 Z Xtreme (trick shots, short hyzers, spikes)
2 Z Drone (hyzer, windy mid)
3 Z Buzzz (slight hyzer to slight understable)
2 Z comet (flat to understable)
3 S Magnet (one beat for long range putts, 2 for putts)
1 Z Challenger (for drives)

*Z PC Trackers (windy roller)
*ESP Focus (trying it out)

Putters
172 jk avair-x (my go to putter)
175 jk avair-x (for windier putts)

Midrange
178 ESP Abrahobama Buzzz - stable
176 ESP FlX buzzz - any line you put on it
178 Cryztal buzzz
174 cryztal buzzz
168 z buzzz - turnover
174 z glo buzzz

Fairway
174 z stalker - super straight
174 z glo stalker - more stable
174 champ glo teebird - long hyzers
171 pro leopard - turnover
175 champ valk - long turnover
169 pro firebird - old school overstable

drivers
173 star boss - let it fly
171 star teerex - soft long hyzer or flip straight
171 12x star wraith - more fade than teerex
175 pro boss - playing around w this
168 star wraith - seasoned and long turnover

All in a beautiful kelly green Gorilla Boy Kong bag...

soft wizard
dx roc
pro leopard
P PD
XXX
boss

soft wizard
dx roc
pro leopard
P PD
XXX
boss

Thats it?

i have a couple of the wizards, 3 of the rocs new to beat, 1 lep, 2 of the P PDs in different weights, 1 xxx, and a few bosses, from a 166 pro (significant turn), to a 174 champ (beefy)

easily covers any shot I ever need or can even think of

Here is my bag - Digi Camo Revolution Carolina

Drivers:

Candy Pro Firebird - 171g
Star XCal - 175g
Star 12X Wraith - 175g
Champ Orc - 175g
Champ Teebird - 173g
Pro Katana - 175g

Mids:

Pro Pig - 175g
FLX Buzzz - 175g
Star Mako - 175g
Glo Aviar - 175g
5X Black JK Aviar - 175g
LE Comet - 177g

Putters:

SSS Wizard - 175g (Winter Putter)
3X JK Aviar - 175g (All other seasons)

whats an XXX? never heard of it.

whats an XXX? never heard of it.

It's a very overstable control driver made by Latitude 64. Think longer Firebird. It's a large diameter disc (21.5 cm) with a driver wing.

Slight modifications from last time...

Pro Katana- Flat out distance
Z Predator- Headwinds, spike hyzers
Champion Starfire- Moderate winds, hyzers
E Apache- Distance with accuracy
Champion TeeBird- Hyzers, low winds, S-shots
DX TeeBird- Straight shots, turnovers, accuracy
E Demon- Midrange in the wind
Z Buzzz- Stable midshots, hyzers
X Buzzz- Straight shots, turnovers, accuracy
M Wizard- Short drives, windy putts
X Soft Focus- Main putter

Looking back at this thread, I bet there are a lot of people who wished they would have never thrown some of those discs. If only we knew then what we know now...

My Bag:
Revolution Team Bag (Camo) w/ Quad Shox

2 Destroyers: Star 167 bomb...disc
champ super Domey 175 ..stable controlled Distance
1 Illusion (baby blue): 176 crazy long rollers. (also pancake shots)
1 CE Leapord 174 great controlled anny disc..
3- Star Teebirds: a 167 light Bomb fro ever controlled shot disc..(I can
pin-point to about 430 where ever i point it),
a 175 star beat in for any type of shot...strait shot,hyzer,controlled,
distance... and a brand new 175 overstable windy teebird.
1-E Apache: 176 still learning, but seems like a teebird with a ton of glide.
(if a teebird and a kc roc had babies...it would be an Apache!)
1- E Spirit: 176 fast overstable shots, thumbers.

3- Rocs: 1-177 DX Ontario (flippy anny), 2-KC Rocs--1 new, 1 used.
1-E Warrior 175: crazy overstable, fast, windy shots.
1-Champ Gator 175. can park any upshot no matter the wind.(warrior
might be taking place...?)
1- S Demon 175: Skip Hyzer shots

2- Med Magics 175 (money putters--switched from BB aviars, and there great)
I use soft in winter,
1- Soft / Med Wizard: overstable putter for wind and driving off tee.
Great Distance and up shots well.

My Bag:
Revolution Team Bag (Camo) w/ Quad Shox

2 Destroyers: Star 167 bomb...disc
champ super Domey 175 ..stable controlled Distance
1 Illusion (baby blue): 176 crazy long rollers. (also pancake shots)
1 CE Leapord 174 great controlled anny disc..
3- Star Teebirds: a 167 light Bomb fro ever controlled shot disc..(I can
pin-point to about 430 where ever i point it),
a 175 star beat in for any type of shot...strait shot,hyzer,controlled,
distance... and a brand new 175 overstable windy teebird.
1-E Apache: 176 still learning, but seems like a teebird with a ton of glide.
(if a teebird and a kc roc had babies...it would be an Apache!)
1- E Spirit: 176 fast overstable shots, thumbers.

3- Rocs: 1-177 DX Ontario (flippy anny), 2-KC Rocs--1 new, 1 used.
1-E Warrior 175: crazy overstable, fast, windy shots.
1-Champ Gator 175. can park any upshot no matter the wind.(warrior
might be taking place...?)
1- S Demon 175: Skip Hyzer shots

2- Med Magics 175 (money putters--switched from BB aviars, and there great)
I use soft in winter,
1- Soft / Med Wizard: overstable putter for wind and driving off tee.
Great Distance and up shots well.

judging by your descriptions, you must not make many bogeys. just playing. :)

Eco XCal/Champ Boss - headwind distance
2 Star Destroyer - no wind distance
Pro Boss - hyzer flip distance
Pro Katana - tailwind distance
Champ FB - headwind hyzers, thumbers
2 Star Max - controlled hyzers with more distance and skip than FB
Champ SF - controlled flex shots
Champ TB - goes without saying
10x KC TB - tailwind control
Z Stalker - long and straight, when more distance than a Roc is needed
Star RR - Annys and long hyzer flips
2 DX Valk - rollers
4 Roc - various plastics and stages of wear
Z Wasp - overstable duties
Z Xtreme - thumbers and hurricanes
Champ Gator - hyzer or flick upshots
Pro Aviar - driving putter, upshots and windy putts
ESP Zone - trial spot, possible overlap with Gator
2 Med Magic - putts

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R-Pro BOSS - 159

Opto HALO - 164

DX WRAITH - 170

Star BEAST - 168

Star TEEBIRD - 162

KC Pro CHEETAH - 165

Star MAKO - 167

DX RHYNO - 173

Gateway MAGIC - 173


Pro-D AVENGER SS - Roller


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orange Vibram mini

black Vibram mini

2 proto Vibram Vp (B)

proto Vibram Ridge soft

1st run champ katana blem

black star sparkle boss

star destroyer

echo star groove

star san marino roc

ontario glow LSDiscs roc

11x roc factory 2nd

9x roc

11x kc pro aviar

big d champion glow teebird

cfr glow TL

cfr glow wraith

pro boss

XG boss

augusta wraith

166g seasoned pre-proto X-Link Soft Eco Vibram VP (brown) - go to putter
167g new pre-proto X-Link Soft Eco Vibram Summit (orange) - uphill & tailwind putts
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171g new proto X-Link Soft Vibram Ridge (orange) - auditioning to possibly replace 11x Aviar
171g beat 11x KC Pro Aviar (white) - understable/straight approach
171g newish 12x KC Pro Aviar (black) - straight/overstable approach, overhand putts
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172g superbeat DX Gremlin (baby blue) - very understable midrange
169g seasoned DX Gremlin (orange) - slightly understable/straight midrange
166g seasoned STAR Gremlin (white) - straight/slightly overstable midrange
169g seasoned ProLine Gremlin (orange) - overstable midrange
171g seasoned Champ Whippet-x (clear) - massively overstable midrange, skippers, max D thumbers & tommies, underhands, cut rollers
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152g newish gummy Champion Monarch (green) - understable fairway driver, rollers
150g seasoned gummy ProLine Leopard (blue)- understable/straight fairway driver
150g seasoned gummy Champion Teebird (green) - straight/overstable fairway driver
146g newish gummy Champion Banshee (clear) - overstable fairway driver, pinpoint thumbers & tommies
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150G newish R-Pro Katana (white) - understable max D driver
150g seasoned R-Pro Boss (pink) - straight max D driver
149g newish gummy Champion Firebird (orange) - overstable max D driver, medium range thumbers & tommies, rollers

Star Boss 170 hyzer disc
R-Pro Boss - 162.9 distance driver
R-Pro Boss - 157.3 turnover disc
DX Xcaliber - 155.8 moderate headwind disc
DX Wraith - 175 roller/backhand
DX Teerex - 174.3 backhand disc
DX Wraith - 174 uphill distance
Star Orc - 174.3 thumber/tomahawk

DGA Rogue - 166 flat throws
DX Valkyrie - 170 control driver
Star SL - 174.3 Downhill driver
Star Sidewinder - 171.5 anhyzer/flat drives
Champ Valkyrie - 174.3 flick roller/tomahawk/anhyzer flicks
Pro Leopard - 170 backhand roller/anhyzer throws
ESP Avenger SS - 171.5 straight line throws

ESP Meteor - 169 Anhyzer/flat throws
ESP Wasp - 178 dowhill/headwind
Elite Z Wasp - 171.5 flat/stand still throws
FLX Drone - 178.5 flick/hyzer throws
ESP Nebula - 173 utility disc
Star Dart - 171 upshots/flat putts
Champ Rhyno - 178.5 hyzer putts/approaches
2X Pro Rhynos - 174.3 putt and approach

judging by your descriptions, you must not make many bogeys. just playing"
No your right? I finally made it to a rating of 997. I have decreased Boge's by alot.
My game plan is all about consistency with adding D when possible, Rocs, Teebirds and tt\hrowing putters when ever I can. I love being consistant. I preach to golfers all the time, stop wasting time on getting Distance and work on throwing flat and strait!!! it works for me. But lol yes we do have a similar bag and probably have similar throw styles.
Hope to play together in TX States.

175 Pro Worlds Star Katana
167 Pro Boss
159 R Pro Boss
150 ESP Flick
167 Star Sidewinder
167 Star Roadrunner
169 11x Teebird

180 DX Ontario Roc
180 11x KC Roc
174 Latitude 64 Core
175 Latitude 64 Core

2 175 Wizards

Star Aviar
Star Kite
SB Roc
Super Roc
Pro Starfire
Pro Katana

Drivers Distance
R Pro Boss
CH Sidewinder
Surge SS

CH Teebird x 2
KC Pro Teebird
Ch Eagle x2

Mids
Z Comet x 2
Z Buzz
Esp Flx Buzz
Pro Pig
Star Gator

Putters
KC Pro Avair x2

My practice reg:
2-KC Rocs
1-cryztal Buzzz
1- E Warrior
2-Med Magics (soft in winter)
1-Wizard or Aviar -X

My practice disc, If I zone in mids then all my game alines itself.

if I practice throwing just all mids for whole course then I go
back out with my whole bag in a few weeks i notice that im more
consistant with all drivers and usually a little more D too...
try it out I dare you.
You have to take 1 step backwards (in practice) if you want to
Leap forward !!!

174g Organic Voodoo--Putting
175g M Voodoo--drop putting and wind putting
174g MVP Ion--Putter driver

177g ESP Meteor--turnover mid
176g X Buzzz--hyzer flip mid
177g Glo Z Buzzz--stable shots, workhorse mid

175g Z Stalker--beat for turnovers
172g Glo Z Stalker--workhorse FWY driver
176g Z Stalker--more stable
175g Opto XXX--overstable utility driver

175g P-PD--beat for straight and understable drives
175g S-PD--stable drives and S turns
174g Opto Halo--broken in distance driver
174g Opto Halo--stable distance driver

174g ESP Nuke--pure straight max D

soft wizards
dx rocs
champ gator

pro leopard
PD's (pro and champ)

bosses (pro and champ)

soft wizards
dx rocs
champ gator

pro leopard
PD's (pro and champ)

bosses (pro and champ)

Whats your rating? John Houcks theory is if you play with less you will progress faster.

Whats your rating? John Houcks theory is if you play with less you will progress faster.

If you click on the Player Stats link under anyone's name you can see their rating if they are current.

i was at 965 until some bad performances in small tourneys last year took me to a 911. hopefully i will play closer to my potential this season...

playing w/ less has always helped me. fewer distractions, and i get to know my molds better, and am therefore more confident before my shots. It's easy to get caught up in new/more discs, and it is for sure fun to try new ones, but it has worked for me to minimize, although you would not know it by my current rating.

as dumb as it sounds, my goal last year was to learn how to throw a straight disc flat and straight...i used to try to throw everything on a hyzerflip and just picked up a lot of bad habits all around...this year's goal is reduce the number of molds in my bag. it's definitely hard to resist the urge to buy one of everything, throw it for a bit, trying to find that one magical disc that will always end up where you want it. throughout this whole process though, i'm rediscovering my love for the teebird again.

Revo Pro Bag

172 5x JK Valkyrie - Long anhyzers with no return fade and roller
174 4x JK Valkyrie - Staraight with no fade or long anhyzer with some fade
170 SOLF - Utility Driver. Controlled Distance. Straight to hyzers.
174 Z Surge - Max D in no wind/light wind or tailwind
175 Star TeeRex - Beat up - Controlled distance in wind and max D in L-R and R-L
175 Star TeeRex - Excellent - Headwinds and extreme wind
175 Pro Leopard - Flat dead straight. tunnel shots
175 Star Leopard - gentle anhyzers and short rollers
171 DX Roc - currently beating up to replace the one i cracked - will be used for turnover
174 11x KC Pro Roc - straight. holds any line under any power.
172 06 Celtic SB Roc - driving mid. straight with gentle fade. loves the basket.
178 06 Baby Star Roc - Driving mid, straight with some fade. windy days.
166 DX Rhyno - approach/trick. super straight with a consistent sharp fade to the ground. drives under 200'
175 RW-Pro Aviar - putts. love the feel and smell.

Possibles:
180 12x KC Pro / 08 Champ Roc / 170 DX Gator - need overstable mid. 1 of these 3 will be used
170 ESP Nuke - testing out as Max D. not sure if i can achieve consistency with the super wide rim. but i thought that at first with the TeeRex and its the most consistent driver in the bag.

I have alot of confidence in this bag and i always have every shot i need in it. i never walk up to a situation and question what disc to use. the surge is a new addition and i love how much easy distance is in the disc. cant wait for the snow to melt and tournament season to come. i think my mental game has vastly improved, i learned how to play slow and not get agitated when iced!!!!!!

Firebird
Wraith
Destroyer
Groove
JLS
Beast (x2)
Roadrunner

Roc (x2)
Shark
Dart
Aviar (x2)

i was at 965 until some bad performances in small tourneys last year took me to a 911. hopefully i will play closer to my potential this season...

you will if you keep playing with less. it will zone in your consistancy and your game will keep improving. i think there is a balance of having enough disc to make all shots, but not too many to mess up in disc selections, less is better.

playing w/ less has always helped me. fewer distractions, and i get to know my molds better, and am therefore more confident before my shots. It's easy to get caught up in new/more discs, and it is for sure fun to try new ones, but it has worked for me to minimize, although you would not know it by my current rating.

Yes but this is Disc wisdom beyond your years.... I agree with John Houck of playing w less. It makes for a great player, Look at Matt Orum and Coda Hatfield, they use very few disc and can beat most people.

as dumb as it sounds, my goal last year was to learn how to throw a straight disc flat and straight...i used to try to throw everything on a hyzerflip and just picked up a lot of bad habits all around...this year's goal is reduce the number of molds in my bag. it's definitely hard to resist the urge to buy one of everything, throw it for a bit, trying to find that one magical disc that will always end up where you want it. throughout this whole process though, i'm rediscovering my love for the teebird again.

"that a boy", the teebird is the way to go, and my best advice I ever recieved was to learn to throw strait and flat..and I did it with a teebird. a teebird is the base of all my shots, then I learn all other shots from there , I promise this...if you zone in your flat and strait release with a teebird then all other aspects of your game will improve....It reallt works.

it is very humble and sometimes frustrating to take a step back and take the time to practice on your game. When you know u can go to your local course and rip up a great score...but you choose to throw all mids and work on that shot, or throw a couple drivers and learn the flat release. its tough to do, Guys on the course are looking at you like..."man he cant throw that far", when your throwing nothing but putters. But after 2 months of me just throwing Mid-ranges at my 2 local courses, i have added at least 30 feet to my drives, my release has zoned in and Im very confident in my release, and also my overall confidence in my shots are better. all the top pros I meet say they get better cause they are willing to take the step back and time to practice the shots...

whats the Best putter in your opinion to throw up shots, and short drives, that you can use to putt with and also throw when it gets alittle windy???

2-175 Medium Wizards putting
1- 175 Evo Wizard overstable drives
2- 175 SS wizards, one for jump putts, one for driving

1 E Warrior
1 178 Midnight buzzz
1 178 flx buzzz
1 180 ontario roc
1 178 z drone
1 173 proline blaze

175 CE apache
175 E assassin
175 proline leopard
175 ce spirit
175 champ TL
175 champ teebird
175 road champ roadrunner
175 first run champ boss
175 star destroyer
175 star xcal
175 champ orc
175 sb orc
175 pred z & esp

swap in and out
firebirds, sb roc, demon, illusions, and eagles

pro rhyno, i feel like i can throw one with the same amount of power as a midrange or driver with confidence. it doesn't seem like it's rim is as deep as other putters, to me anyhow. I used to putt with xd's back in the day, I've been wanting to track down a star xd and use it off of the tee.

Drivers

CFR Augusta Wraith 175
1st Run Pro Katana 171
Star Katana 175
1st Run Champ Boss 175
XG Champ Boss 175
11x Champ Firebird 175
Ce Firebird 174
10x KC Pro Teebird 174
11x KC Pro Teebird 169
Ce Teebird TL 174
11x KC Pro Cheetah 171
CE Leopard 174

Midrange

1st Run Star Cro 171
1st Run Star Cro 172
Champ Classic Roc 173
Star Classic Roc 175
Dx Classic Roc 172
1st Run Champ Gator 175

Putters

2 JK Pro Aviar-x

All yellow!
Yellow Innova Bag Phoniex Bag Straps

whats the Best putter in your opinion to throw up shots, and short drives, that you can use to putt with and also throw when it gets alittle windy???

Aviar Driver - good smooth putter. strong sharp finish so make sure to give it enough power so it hits the basket going straight.
Wizard (a stiff plastic) -super amount of glide and goes far. personally i didnt like it for putting. if i didnt hit the basket id go sailing past. i found myself laying up more often with the wizard more than any other putter ive tried.
Challenger -unlike the two above the challenger doesnt have as much glide. but it loves!!!! the chains. i wish they still made'em in Elite X and a std ESP run.
Rhyno -lt weight maintains the wind resistence and they fly much straighter imo...i use my 167g Dx Rhyno in high wind and it still flies straight and true.

theres almost always some kind of wind blowing thru around here. more than the putter i find a nice smooth slight hyzer putts will always cut thru the wind. i still use my PnA in 30+ winds and only using a rhyno for headwind putts at those winds.

pro rhyno, i feel like i can throw one with the same amount of power as a midrange or driver with confidence. it doesn't seem like it's rim is as deep as other putters, to me anyhow. I used to putt with xd's back in the day, I've been wanting to track down a star xd and use it off of the tee.

Star XDs are sweet off the tee they beat to straight and they stay that way for a long time.
I like driving with my 10X Aviar you can lay into it hard.

Vibrams VP and Ridge are another good driving putter.
Also Ryhnos i use to use them and champs I could put out to close to 300ft

Aviar Driver - good smooth putter. strong sharp finish so make sure to give it enough power so it hits the basket going straight.
Wizard (a stiff plastic) -super amount of glide and goes far. personally i didnt like it for putting. if i didnt hit the basket id go sailing past. i found myself laying up more often with the wizard more than any other putter ive tried.
Challenger -unlike the two above the challenger doesnt have as much glide. but it loves!!!! the chains. i wish they still made'em in Elite X and a std ESP run.
Rhyno -lt weight maintains the wind resistence and they fly much straighter imo...i use my 167g Dx Rhyno in high wind and it still flies straight and true.

theres almost always some kind of wind blowing thru around here. more than the putter i find a nice smooth slight hyzer putts will always cut thru the wind. i still use my PnA in 30+ winds and only using a rhyno for headwind putts at those winds.

I totally agree. I liked the Wizard. I enjoy driving with it, it is fast and overstable, But if I miss it went long, where my aviars only go about 15-20ft past and i can make the come back, thats why i dont putt with wizard. but i love to putt with the DX BB AViar Drvr, i love this putter, its great glide, good stability and loves the chains. best putter I have found yet, when it gest windy i putt Jk-Aviar X ....but i have noticed that if its windy enough to effect a putter i can zing my mako in for a solid wind putt.

when u say aviar driver are u using star, pro what plastic. Just asking cuase I Putt with the DX BB aviar Drvr and the whole reason is cause its still a BB but it finishes straiter than any other aviar, so I make more putts, and i dont have to putt so hard like i do with KC or Star BB

if you want a putter that stays overstable when driving i love the Wizard. It is very overstable , good glide and far. i can throw this about as far as my rocs and other mids. but it will always finish left, so u need to compliment it with a strait flyer.

delete

Beat in Wizard is a straight flyer. That is why I carry two, one new and one beat.

whats the Best putter in your opinion to throw up shots, and short drives, that you can use to putt with and also throw when it gets alittle windy???


A beat in JK Pro avair for me.

My New Bag lots of changes

Drivers
3x Champion teebirds new beat normal
2x Champion eagles- beat new
Champion Valk
Jk Champion Valk
Pro Wraith
Pro Destroyer
Champion Destroyer
Pro Katana



Mids
Comet Z
Buzz GT
Pig

Putters
JK Pro Avair very very beat
Jk Pro Avair very beat

whats a Buzz GT ??? is it overstable

whats a Buzz GT ??? is it overstable

Flies just the same, but with a comfortable and confidence-inspiring Groove Top. I love the feel for it. This is one of the feels you love or hate. I love it. They are out of production now I think.

Drivers:
1-CE Leopard
3-CFR Destroyers (1 new, 1 used, 1 light for long annys)
1-Star Max (crazy wind dont stop me)
1-Ch Monster for all other Hyzers and Side arms, and Thumbers.
3-Star Teebirds-(1-new,1-used, 1 light for loooong annys and control)
1-ESp Surge (great long pancake shots, and good roller for me)

Mids:
1-Star Mako (WOW) great disc, controlled anny, loooong strait, strait finish WOW
2-Cryztal Buzzz's (1-new overstable, 1-used dead strait, or any way you point it)
1 CE Warrior (Gateway's amazing faster, better Drone in champ plastic) this disc is the overstable brother of the Buzz, great compliment to the Buzz.
1-Champ Gator.....Oh Yeah...what Wind. the wind is scared of this disc..I can upshot with accuracy in a Hurricane.
1-champion Viper- If you need to skip or get out of trouble, this is a great disc.I can skip this around the block if I need to.

Putter:
1-DX BB Aviar Driver (wow best putter I have ever put my hands on, and Ive atleast tried them all. just enough stability and wonderful glide. It loves to find the Chains. My putting has increased with this putter and has given me more confidence to go for bigger putts. If i miss, im only 15-20 past....
2-JK-Aviar-X--all the Putter driving work comes from this.(1-used for strait and no wind days, 1-brnd new for windy days, these are pretty overstable new.)
1-Med Magic-Great glide, long throwing putter, seems to be good at jump putting, loves the anny release. I can drive this putter anny for days, and It holds. also not to squirrelly in wind. likes to be thrown hard.

BAG: camo revolution bag w/ Quad Shox Straps., and a mountain climbing chalk bag D clipped to side for dry hands for those warm days coming. chalk works great for me when I need the snap.
I also vacuum seal a couple towels in a gallon zip lock bag just in case rain. and in other pocket i vacuum seal my gore tex rain shell and pants for a bad day. with vacuum sealed zip lock bag i still have room to store all my stuff for tournys. The bag is working out great.

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Boss, Nuke x2, Xtreme
PD x4
Sanny Roc x2, Rancho Roc x3
Maniac P1, VP, Ridge x3

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Their new home

When I Fly on the Airlines, I carry a Mini Revolution bag with Quad shocks and 14 discs.

When I play Morley, La Mirada, El Dorado, Huntington Beach, etc �� I use my Executive Ball Golf Cart by Bag Boy. I have converted it to Disc Golf standards !!! It�s a Silver Avenger model with chrome wheels, no flat tires, cooler and disc carrier !!!!

Here is what it carrys for me :

174 gram Red Beat JLS for Rolling
174 gram Champion Dyed Orc
180 gram KC Pro White Roc
174 gram Champion Dyed Viking
174 gram Star Yellow Whippet
176 gram Red Squall
168 gram Star Orange Wraith
169 gram Star Destroyer ( Blue )
167 gram White Pro Destroyer
175 gram Yellow Star Valkyrie
175 gram Yellow Champion Boss
168 gram Orange Star Boss
175 gram Champion TeeBird ( Yellow )
175 gram Black KC Pro Aviar