162 JLS
164 Flash
175 Buzzzz
175 X wasp
165 T-Bird Pro
165 Z- XS
168 Z- Talon
173 X- Press
167 Innova Archangel
Omega SS

that be it for now..... I need a bigger bag..... :D

171 Champion Firebird
162 Champion Gummy Beast
170 Champion Valk
172 Champion Valk (Beat)
166 Champion Teebird
168 10x KC Teebird
168 Polaris
177 Z Buzz
180 11x KC Roc
178 DX Roc
178 DX Roc (Beat)
175 4x JK Aviar (Beat)
175 Pro Aviar

3 D Wasps (174-178)
1 Photon Wasp (177)
3 D Challengers (174)
1 UV Challenger (173)

This is working very well right now! I swapped my Wizards for Challengers. They have the exact same flight when putting, but because of the Challengers lower profile, it works much better for me when driving. The shape Wizard just does not allow my fingers to work. I've tried everything, and it's just the way the wizard hits my fingers. The Challenger is a perfect fit.

172 Red Classic Aviar
175 SE Super Roc
179 Beat Up SE Super Roc
180 SE Super Roc
174 Pro Line Monster
172 CE Firebird FL
174 CE Teebird TL
174 Beat up CE Eagle L
172 Champion Orc

only major change for me recently is getting a couple of wizards...

172 s wizard super soft
175 s wizard firm
178 z wasp
177 z buzzz
177 z buzzz first run
177 x buzzz first run
172 z glide? (2004 acerace disc)
174 kc 11x teebird
174 kc 10x teebird
174 cfr teebird tl
166 se teebird tl
175 proline monster
175 champion orc
168 champion orc
170 proline orc
174 champion beast
174 champion valkyrie

for night rounds with the britelites, i have a different, more simple set: (all clear discs)..

172 cryztal challenger
177 z buzzz
174 kc 11x teebird
174 proline monster
172 champion orc
174 champion valkyrie

2 174 g Champion Aviars
168 g cfr Classic Roc
176 g San Marino glo roc 1989
171 g 2001 CE Roc
166 g Champion Stingray
166 Champion Beast
170 Flash
166 Champion Orc

I do have a big gap between the stingray and the beast/Flash and nothing super overstable in the bag, I find that the stingray is my go to disc in many situations.

The beast/flash/orc overlap a lot.

I am considering checking out the flick and or monster on the over stable end.

Another new discs I would like to check out would be the Illusion.

The leopard in SE and or Champion plastic might find it's way back to my bag between the Stingray and the Beast/Flash.

The valks work well too but currently the beast is taking their shots.

Revised Lineup, Fall/Winter 2004:

Magnet, Hard
2003 Ace Race Disc, aka Breeze
2004 Ace Race Disc, for weekly minis
d-MRV, replaces '04 Ace Race disc for sanctioned play
Stratus
Z-Predator
Z-Wildcat
169 Z-Flash, Blue, first run
172 Z-Flash, Red, first run
Z-Crush, first run
Z-Talon
d-XS, beat to hell and back
one specialty disc: old d-Stratus for "must turnover with a tailwind" shots.

filler/warmup putters:
Paul Giles Hard Magnet (super sweet feel to this one!)
Soft Magnet
DGA Titanic (hard magnet)

I changed it again. :D
174 Red Z Pred ( Big Hyzer and spike shots)
174 Blue Z Tsunami ( long drives that need to hyzer at the end)
174 Orange Tsunami (Straight drives and turnover shots)
170 Blue X Pred ( flip shots and rollers)
170 Blue Z Wasp ( Hysers and S Shots 350 and in)
178 Orange Z BUZZZ ( straight shots from 350 and in )
170 Purple Z BUZZZ ( turnovers and flip shots 350 and in)
174 Orange BEAT Cam Todd Challenger ( just about anything 200 and in )
174 Green Crystal Challenger ( Overstable everything from 200 and in )
174 Black Pro D Challenger ( PUTTING )

175 Champ Orc (neon green, brand new.. loving the orc...)
167 Pro Teebird (splatter, semi beat)
172 Champ Valkyrie (tye-dye, beat to hell... love it!)
174 DX Cheetah (white, semi beat)
171 DX Wolf (white, very beat)
170 DX Stingray (yellow, beat to hell... my first disc, aka "the shotmaker")
172 DX Shark (white, used for extra players...)
172 DX Gremlin (red, same as above...)
180 DX Stingray (orange, GREAT in the wind)
170 DX Hydra (red, pointless disc, but fun for catch in the pool)
172 DX Aviar (BEAT, my baby...)

Ok well... this is what I have had for a few months now... it's getting pretty solid.

2 175 Champ Orcs (one beat, one new)
172 Champ Monster
175 Champ Viking (beat)
171 SE Leopard
Just added a 175 Pro Tl - I like it so far
and then I usually have a ultra long driver for wide open fairways (right now it's a 169 Dx Beast)

178 z-wasp
180 KC Roc - newish
180 KC Roc - Beat
174 Pro Shark
176 Dx Shark - BEAT!

175 JK Aviar - upshots
175 KC Aviar - putting

yup... seems to work for me :D

2 first run orc's 169,170
1 ce valk 174
1champion beast
2 10x kc pro teebirds 171, 171
1 10x cheetah 171
1 11x kc pro banshee
2 11x kc pro roc's 177, 179
1 se super roc 180
1 shark 179
2 big bead aviar's dx 171, 172
1 no bead aviar (ecu) stamp. 170
110x kc pro big bead aviar

all white :)

ps: don't be scared it only a basket

First run FL & Eagle
Max weight FL, light FX
Max Orc, Mid Orc, Light Orc
Flash, Viking, CE JLS
Beast, T-bird, Eagle
Overstable Valk, Stable Valk, Understable Valk
Soft candy Rhyno, D-wasp, Ont. Roc, 2002 CE Roc
2 Omega SS putters

2 omega APs
1 aviar p&p
1 gremlin
1 buzzz
1 proto ace race disc -testing-

1 x out TL
1 ce 2nd run TL
1 1st run viking
2 orcs 175 & 172
1 4th or 5th run valk
2 champion firebirds

White 163 SE Valk X-out Longest drives of 220'
clear 153 Illusion- Long drives W/ a little fade
Yellow 150 Champ Valk- Long d's W/ a more fade
Orange 159 F-2 Flyer-Long D w/NO fade
Blue 150 Sabre-shorter throws w/a little fade
Red 150 Apachie for straight medium throws
orange 150 Cobra-for most approach shots
red 150 Stingray -for all left turn shots
white 160 Wizard for all putting
clear 132 old old Dauntless for all low straight
shots
Being 70 yrs.old and not quite sound mind and body,these are all that work for what I need them to do. I can only throw 160-170' and just sidearm

172 DX-Beast (Long Fairways)
170? X-Predator (Wind/Hyzers/Forehand)
172 Z-Cyclone (Straight/Wind)
172 GLO T-Bird (Tight Fairways)
170 DX-T-Bird (beat) (Annies/ Hyzer Flips)
172 X-Wasp (Straight to Hyzer/Short Forehand)
165? Hawk (beat) (short annies)
168 GLO Aviar P&A (Wind/Hyzer)
165 DX-Birdie (Annie putts)

I have another 166 DX T-Bird and a light DX Eagle that arre getting almost too beat up but they're good for hyzer flips and newbies that tag along. Also have another Aviar that I'm working on to replace the Birdie. Next season I plan on adding a Z-Xtreme and possibly an Orc and Roc.

Next season I plan on adding a Z-Xtreme



Great addition!!!!!

What's this next season stuff? We're fortunate enough in Tx to not only have 12 months of DG, but also your old MN NORTHSTARS!!!! :o

GO WINGS!!!!!!!!!!

'Nucks all the way!!! :D

Do you guys live under ROCKS or something???

These teams arent even PLAYING THIS SEASON or maybe even NEXT season for that matter. Looks like your states disc golf will have to do the talking for the next year.

GO MICHIGAN :Dand the WINGS if they were going to be playing :mad:

Yea the strike sucks. The point is what the ******* do Texans know about hockey anyway? :p

Graham, your bag changes faster than a stripper in between dances.

What's this next season stuff? We're fortunate enough in Tx to not only have 12 months of DG, but also your old MN NORTHSTARS!!!! :o



Most of my discs are white which makes winter play a little tough. Plus I've got ice fishing and snowboarding to keep me busy.

Not a big hockey fan, but greedy team owners make me want to puke. At least the Wild are way better than the Stars. Not crazy about the name though. Back to the thread...........Go Vikes!..................

Should be recieving
Z-CRUSH (neon green-174gms)
Z-BUZZ (neon orange -178gms)
X-APX (neon yellow-170gms)
D-XL (white-170-172gms)
Lightning Golf Disc bag
New birdie bag

Which I bought off e-bay the other day. Don't really need those particular discs, but got everything for 45 shipped.

Graham, your bag changes faster than a stripper in between dances.



He he that was really funny for me! Actually, I have 2 bags...a Gateway bag and a Discraft bag, and sometimes an Innova bag! I can't throw a mix of discs, so I just play with different setups. Once I really know what I like the best, I will settle down.


Oh and by the way, my current bag is as follows....

175 S WizHARD
172 E WizHARD
174 S WizHARD
146 CE Banshee (that's real CE)

:D:confused: :cool::mad:/msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

That banshee makes for some fun tommohawks!

Actually, I have 2 bags...a Gateway bag and a Discraft bag, and sometimes an Innova bag! I can't throw a mix of discs, so I just play with different setups. Once I really know what I like the best, I will settle down.

Oh and by the way, my current bag is as follows....

175 S WizHARD
172 E WizHARD
174 S WizHARD
146 CE Banshee (that's real CE)

:D:confused: :cool::mad:/msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

That banshee makes for some fun tommohawks!



So which bag is that? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I don't know...it's not even in a bag!!

rhynos 175 [pro and dx]
3 dx rocs 180
4 teebirds 172 [champ, cfr tl, 2 dx]
2 dx beasts 172/150
1 h speed demon 173

am experimenting with pro tl for less stable turns and straight shots with glide, and champ firebird and z-pred for a [less overstable] overstable driver

174 dx valkyrie - not used much, heavy headwind drives mainly
150 dx valkyrie - tailwind drives, turnover drives
150 c valkyrie - tailwind/turnover drives where i may hit something
166 c valkyrie - most drives, easy for me to control, nicely worn in
175 z xpress - just got this, not used a lot yet, but SUPER easy to turn over, nice distance as well
170 dx fat tire flyer roc - anything between 200 and 300ft, alternate for the shark
166 c shark - anything under 275ft, alternate for the roc
174 magnet - not really used much, spare for new players
170 z putt'r - danger approach shots, ie. i'm going to hit something, roll away must be avoided, coming out of bushes... :D
175 86 softie - layup shots from close range, mostly catch to warm up
170med, 169med, 3 170soft wizards - anything and everything under 250 ft., putts and approaches. these are by far my most used discs, in various stages of life... :)

as of right now i also have:
150 dx shark - back up
160 dx valkyrie - back up
165s/171s element prototype - couldn't resist trying out this new disc, the approved versions may replace my shark(s) and roc :eek:

as well as towels, pens/markers, scorecards, rule book, minis, birdie bag, elbow brace, advil, and a water bottle....

My Bag....again......

175 S Wizard (Orange Med)
175 S Wizard (White Hard)
172 E Wizard (Orange Med)
175 S Element (Dayglo)
167 H Element (Yellow)
175 E Element (Gray)
167 S Illusion (White)
168 S Illusion (White)
169 S Illusion (White)
177 H Speed Demon (Purple)

Since I've put the Element in my bag, my game from about 325' and in is completely secure. I'll never change. The Element and Wizard are the perfect combination.

I just got the Illusions so I'm breaking them in. They fly really nice, even out of the box. These things are so fast and durrable. I love the mold.

The Speed Demon....WHAT A PIG! I only use it for a short, low ceiling 90 degree corner on one of the holes at my local course. We redesigned the hole, and now the Speed Demon seems to be the only disc that can turn that hard!

Anyways, that's my bag, and probably will be for a long time to come!

My Bag....again......



Graham, when everyone on here knows that your bag (or discs not in a bad as it once was) changes more than Britney Spears during a concert, it is realy hard for us, well me, to believe that you will stay with anything for a long time. I must admit I like the fact that its all Gateway. But after all of your flip flopping and multiple multiple bag setups could anyone possibly believe...


Anyways, that's my bag, and probably will be for a long time to come!



(Meant totally in jest.)

^^^ Hahaha, that was funny!

My bag:
DRIVERS
171, 168 Champ Firebirds (slightly beat)
172, 173 CFR Archangels (one new, one slightly beat)
150 Z-Flick (brand spankin' new)
175 Champ Orc (quite new)
175 CFR Starfire (nicely broken in)
162 Champ Beast (slightly beat)
MIDRANGES
180 CFR Viper (nicely broken in)
177 2004 CFR Glo Roc (still looks new!)
178 DX Roc (slightly beat)
174 Z Breeze (slightly beat)
PUTTERS
175 CFR Rhyno (fairly new)
175 Pro (soft) Rhyno (fairly new)
175 JK Aviar-x (slightly beat)


I'll also usually throw in an extra junky driver and/or midrange for holes with water and/or shule.

2 Z Flashes
2 11x Teebirds Beat
2 SE Leopards
1 X Pred
1 Tsunami
1 Z Pred
1 Z Xtreme
1 Z Buzzz
1 D Buzzz/ D Wasp
1 D Challenger
1 Black Soft Challenger
1 Omega Supersoft

(from Slayerbill, Oct 2)
172g pearlescent pink CE Gazelle (stepping stone, or 'tweener, driver)





Does anyone know where to find some CE Gazelles?!? I know these were used as CFR's a couple of years ago, but all I ever saw of those were incredibly light discs (160 or below). It seems to me that the Gazelle is a good disc that needs to be "Championized." I had a Proline mold, and it was the perfect disc; dead-straight 280-320 foot drives with a tiny hyzer on the end. I lost that one and all the others I've found didn't throw the same. If anyone knows where to get a heavy CE Gazelle, please let me know!

2 pro/dx rhynos 175

3 kc/dx rocs 180

cfr tl 172
dx t 171
pro tl 172

dx beast 171
h illusion 168

tsunami 174
z-pred 174

3 Teebirds: Controlled drives 330ft.+ ~ one new, used and beat, I also roll the beat one
2 Orcs: max distance ~ one light for tail wind, one heavy
1 Firebird: Headwind driver, thumbers, rollers, sidearms, skipshots, spike hyzers
4 Rocs: controlled midrange shots 280-330ft. ~ one new, one used, one beat, one really beat
4 Aviars: all shots < 280ft. ~ one new, one used, one beat, one for putting only

All discs are max or close to max except the light orc is 167g.

steven, how does your tsunami compare to your z-pred?

I did it again.

174 Z Flick ( Forehands~~Skip Shots )
172 Z Pred ( Short Hyzers~~Spike Hyzers )
174 Z Tsunami ( Long Hyzers~~S Shots )
174 Fusion Tsunami ( Straight Drives~~Long Anhyzers~~Cutt Rollers~~DISTANCE )
170 X Pred ( Flip Shots~~Rollers )
178 Z BUZZZ ( Straight Shots )
170 Z BUZZZ ( Turnovers )
177 D BUZZZ ( Flip Shots~~Hard Turn Overs )
170 Beat Cam Todd ( PUTTING )
174 Black Pro D Challenger ( Short Straight Shots~~Turns )
174 Green Crystal Challenger( Everything inside 280 )
174 Red Crystal Challenger ( Same as Above )

All discs are max weight and Champion/Z plastic unless specified.

DX 1st Run Firebird (overstable/rain)
DX Beast (>370ft/rain)
DX TeeBird (300ft-370ft/rain)
DX Leopard (turnover/rain)
DX Roc (multipurpose/rain)
Flick (overstable >370ft)
Whippet (short spike hyzers/skip shots)
Beast (>370ft lots of fade)
Orc (>370ft little fade)
Flash (>370ft uphill or turnovers)
Valkrie (350-370ft turnovers)
TL (350-400ft straight)
TeeBird (300-350ft straight)
2 Leopards (varying degrees of turn/rollers 300-350ft)
Wasp (overstable 250-350ft)
Super Roc (heavy fade 250-350ft)
KC Roc (straight 250-350ft depending on wind/terrain)
MRV (200-300ft S-curves)
New Buzz (250-325ft straight depending on wind/terrain, or same distance shots to hold an anhyzer)
Old Buzz (ole reliable, nice turning disc, same distance as new Buzz)
167 Small Bead DX Aviar (turnover approaches/putts)
Super Puppy (stradle putts, twist putts, float-in approaches)
Big Bead 1st Run Pro Aviar (approach <250ft)
Pro Line Classic Roc (approach <250ft lots of fade)
Small Bead DX Aviar (main putter)

And a bunch of other crap I use apparently just to make the bag heavy.

This thread is a lot more "educational" for us gumbies when you post like CB_disc_PIMP, showing us what you use all these discs for.
Thanks man. Great info.

This thread is a lot more "educational" for us gumbies when you post like CB_disc_PIMP, showing us what you use all these discs for.
Thanks man. Great info.



I edited my post for you Boneman and anyone else that it will help.

1 Z Flash 170
1 Champ Orc 168 (a little more control than flash)
2 11x Teebirds Beat 166
1 SE Leopard 170
1 Z Talon 172
1 X Pred 172
1 Red Tsunami 172
1 Blue Tsunami 167
1 Z Xtreme 174
1 Z Buzzz 177
1 D Buzzz/ D Wasp 177
1 D Challenger 174
1 Black Soft Challenger 174
1 Omega Supersoft 170

Tsunami's have taken over the Z Preds!

Thanks Eddie. With additional information on disc use [weight, condition, etc.], I think this is a great thread for us to learn from!

174 Flick
174 Z Wasp
173 1st Run Z Buzz
174 1st run Flash
172 UV Soft challenger
175 soft magnet
173 Blue DGLO Tsunami
173 1st run Z Crush
180 Comet
175 1st run MRV

Back up to 16...

175g Pro Line Firebird - FH roller/sidearms
167g Pro Line Firebird - hard hyzer
169g CE Eagle - hyzer/flex
164g CE Eagle - hammer/thumber
169g 11x Teebird - straight - Primary Driver
167g 11x Teebird - backup/breaking in
165g Ch. Viking - distance - may be leaving the bag soon
165g QJLS 1.1 - anhyzer

175g Ch. Whippet - hyzer (duh!)
175g CE Spider (2) - anything
175g Ch. Panther (2) - anhyzer/BH roller
174g CryZtal Challenger - driving putter
174g UV Soft Challenger - 03 Am Worlds stamp - primary putter
174g UV Soft Challenger - 03 Fall Open stamp - headwind putter (it's stiffer than the Worlds stamped)

pro firebird - short hyzers
ce firebird fx - longer hyzers
flatop champion viking - longest hyzers
flatop jk valk - windy driver
pro line beast - turnovers/ s curve shots
dx eagle - rain driver
2 glo rocs - 1 beat 1 slighty broke in, everything midrange
1 Q sentinal - overstable midrange shots
1 photon wasp - roc#3
2 175g 11x kc pro aviars - putts and short approach shots

Main discs
2 Champ Orcs (Distance),
2 Pro TL's (distance at less than 75% power)
3 KC Rocs (inside 300ft)
2 KC Aviars (inside 100 ft)
(usually 2 of each, 1 beat 1 new. I carry 3 rocs though; actually 2 KC's and a z-wasp) all Max weight.

Others
1 SE Leopard (BH rollers, and for shots sent out hyzer to flip)
1 DX Shark (BEAT... same discrptn as Leopard)
1 Champ Monster (windy drives, cut rolls, flick rolls)
1 Dx Beast (when all that matters is distance, mostly just for show... hardly ever use it during competitive play)

13 discs... lucky #... :D

This thread is a lot more "educational" for us gumbies when you post like CB_disc_PIMP, showing us what you use all these discs for.
Thanks man. Great info.



I edited my post for you Boneman and anyone else that it will help.



Ditto

Main discs
2 Champ Orcs (Distance),
2 Pro TL's (distance at less than 75% power)
3 KC Rocs (inside 300ft)
2 KC Aviars (inside 100 ft)
(usually 2 of each, 1 beat 1 new. I carry 3 rocs though; actually 2 KC's and a z-wasp) all Max weight.

Others
1 SE Leopard (BH rollers, and for shots sent out hyzer to flip)
1 DX Shark (BEAT... same discrptn as Leopard)
1 Champ Monster (windy drives, cut rolls, flick rolls)
1 Dx Beast (when all that matters is distance, mostly just for show... hardly ever use it during competitive play)

13 discs... lucky #... :D



Interesting...I always keep 13 discs in my bag also -so here goes

1 ORC - Distance Driver
1 Valk - Distance Driver (anhyzers)
1 Comet - biggest anhyzer disc they make - will not turn back out
2-3 Teebirds at any time
1 CE ROC - longer upshots and shorter drives
1 Firebird or Whippet - sharp hyzers
1 Wildcat - Straight *zz disc
1 anything beat up for rollers and thumbers


2 Aviars - 1 used for 5+ years..the next one being broken in
1 Omega 1.1 Putter - for those days w/o much wind

I switch those combos around somewhat frequently as discs are lost, or become too beat up, but mostly those are what I throw with.

173 Champion Orc
174 CE Teebird TL
174 Pro Line Monster (FH Roller, THumber, & BIG HYZER!)
174 CE Eagle (BH roller)
173 10x KC Pro Gazelle
180 9x KC Pro Roc
180 Super SE Roc (beat up)
174 CE spider
172 Big Bead Grid Aviar

158 Champ Orc ( Distacne with slight tailwind)
175 Champ Orc ( Distance in light winds)
3 DX Firebirds - ( 170, 175, 175, All strong headwind drivers)
175 Champ FX ( Crazy [*****] winds)
171 Flick ( For flicking)
173 X- Xpress ( long rolls)
172 Z- Xpress ( throwing up steep hills)
177 Z Wasp ( straight shots under 330
174 Z wasp ( same as above)
179 Champ Shark ( tight s curves under 300)
175 Aviar P&A( very beat, main putter)
175 BB Aviar( under 250, and putting into a wind)

I am trying out a new setup...so far so good

1 CE Firebird
1 Champion Viking
1 Champion Beast

1 Z-Extreme
1 Z-Wasp
1 Z-Buzz

1 Cryztal Challenger

and a really, really light bag :D

well, here's a break down of: quantity, plastic, model, weight, and throw

long range:
(2) z wildcat 174/169 (LHBH)
ce firebird fx170 (side arm)
z predator 173 (long roller)

fairway drivers:
(2) champion whippetx 174/175 (side arm)
kc pro gazelle 168 (LHBH)

approach:
dx roc 180 (RHBH)
proD buzz 171 (LH/RH)
classic roc 170 (RHBH)

putter(s):
(2) champion aviar 175/170 (RHBH)
big bead dx aviar 173 (side arm/push)

and that's it.
peace

Update:

Putters:
1 KC 10X Aviar
3 SE Rhynos

Mid-Range
4 KC 10X Rocs (4 levels of beat in)

Drivers
Monster
3 CE FX Firebirds (3 levels of beat in)
2 Orcs (Heavy and Light)
1 KC 10X Teebird
1 CE Valkyrie

1 Spirit.
2 Illusions.
2-3 Blazes.
1 Demon.
3 Elements.
3 Wizards.

All S Plastic, all towards the heavy side.

2- CE Eagles (1rst/2nd run)
4 CE Valks ( 1 for quick turns, 2 for LONG drives and one is
STABLE as hell)
1- CE Roc (1rst run) I know what this is gonna do.
1- Ching DX ROC ( I love the flat DX Rocs)
1- J-Bird Stamped DX ROC (perfect for short or LONG turnovers)
1- DX Big Bead Aviar (Stable and predictable, stamp is from the
1rst USDGC)
1 CE Aviar (Stamp is from the Worlds when they were in Tenn. My
FIRST and last Worlds up until now)
1- 9X KC Aviar (Beat in really nice and goes where I throw it.)
1- Carolina Disc Golf Stamped Aviar P&A,( I love Carolina, HATE
NOW!!!)
1- 9X KC Eagle Dyed (sorta thrown in for extra, just in case)
1-Ching DX Big Bead Aviar (SUPER STABLE)

At the moment...(listing discs only)

1 Condor
1 Jaguar
1 Epic
1 Arrow
1 Riptide
1 Tsunami
1 Juju
1 U2 Prostyle
2 Z-Crush
2 Champion Orc
1 E-Spirit
1 E-Speed Demon
1 Champion Panther
1 Pro-line Gremlin
1 Z-Buzzz
1 CE Aero
1 X-Putt'r
1 CFR Classic Roc
1 Upshot
1 Hydra

At the moment...(listing discs only)

1 Condor
1 Jaguar
1 Epic
1 Arrow
1 Riptide
1 Tsunami
1 Juju
1 U2 Prostyle
2 Z-Crush
2 Champion Orc
1 E-Spirit
1 E-Speed Demon
1 Champion Panther
1 Pro-line Gremlin
1 Z-Buzzz
1 CE Aero
1 X-Putt'r
1 CFR Classic Roc
1 Upshot
1 Hydra



That's the funniest joke I heard all day!

Putter - 174 3x JK Aviar

Mid Range - 180 Beatup DX Roc
- 179 newer DX Roc
- 175 Aviar

Driver - 174 10x KC Banshee
- (2) 174 DX Beast (one is for turnover shots)
- 174 Champion Monster
- (2) 174 CE FX Firebird
- 167 CE Eagle (Roller)
- 174 10x KC Banshee (tomahawk)

The newest edition that has not been given a slot in my bag because i am still deciding if i like it is a 174 Tsunami and a 174 Super Soft Wizard

JK Valk, 175g
Champ Beast, 171g
Z-Wildcat, 172g
QJLS, 175g
DX Viper, beat
DX Valk, 175g

beat XD, 175g
Classic Roc, 175g
Ching Roc, 175g beat
11X Roc, 174g
DX Roc, 179g new
Z-Wasp, 175g
DX Spider, 175g beat
Pro Spider, 173g
Aviar P/A, 173g

Currently...

1 small bead classic aviar for putting
1 beat aviar putt and approach
1 black higher flyers aviar for drives
1 sanny
1 ontario
1 glow roc
2002 CE roc
DX beast
CE Eagle
CE Leopard
Champ. Monster
2 Champ. Orc's
Speed Demon
CE TL
2 Tsunami's

Still tucked in my carolina revolution team bag... for quite a few years i'm guessing. :)

Pro Aviar 175 (Putting 70ft and in only)
KC Aviar 175 (Short Drives)
JK Aviar 175 (Beat - Turns and very long putts 75ft+)
Pro Rhyno 172 (Approaches and Short Drives and short sidearm)
KC Roc 180 (Newer - Midrange Straight Drives)
KC Roc 179 (Beat - Longer Turns then Aviar)
Champion 04 Roc 177 (Midrange Fade Drives)
Q-Sentinel 178 (Low Midrange Drives with fade, some sidearm)
Champion Whippet 174 (Specialty Shots, hard fades and sidearm and tommyhawks)
KC 11x Banshee 174 (Sidearm Distance Driver)
Champion Valkyrie 172 (Very Long Turnover Driver)
Champion Orc 167 (Distance Driver with fade)
CFR TeeBird TL 166 (Utility Control Distance Driver)
ProLine Leopard 175 (Longer Roc, very straight, stays on fairway disc, very forgiving)
All in a Rust Revolution Team Bag.
Cheers,
Matt

1 Zchallenger(putts and short approaches)
1 9x Roc(turnover shots)
1 05' Roc(straight/fade midrange)
1 CE TL(controlled distance driver)
1 Starfire(Crush driver with fade)
1 150 Flick(side arm distance driver and crush driver with huge fade)
2 JK Valks(long turnover driver)

When I get my bigger bag, I am going to add a 10x roc and a 11x roc so I don't take the chance of destroying my 9x roc

Also going to add a heavier Zflick for S curve type shots, and another challenger(so I don't have to mark my disc to putt if I use my putter as an upshot.

Try putting some Pro D Challengers i your bag. D plastic is better for putting then Z Challengers. They stick better on off center putts and they beat up so you can have a straight one and a turnover one all with the same mold. Then keep the Z for hyzers. Just a suggestion. I have found that when i look in the bags of pros they have about 4 drivers and anywhere from 4-6 Mids and 3-4 Putters. All in different stages of beatness and one Putter just for PUTTING so you dont have to mess it up hitting trees. I have three main basic molds in my bag. Preds (Tsunamis are included in this) Wasps ( BUZZZ ) and Challengers. Flicks are for trick shots mostly.

I have a 4 Diff pre molds. All have different flight paths. Ranging from HARD HYZER to flip shots and Rollers. I have 4 Wasp Molds. From Hard Hyzer to flip shots. 4 Challengers again Hard Hyzer to flip shots. Then one Cam Todd just for putting. This has helped my game ALOT. Sorry about the thread drift i just got that in my head and figured it might help someone

simplified a little.. took out discs that were fun to throw, but did not help my game
2 175 rhynos-150' +/- and in, putts
3 180 dx/kc rocs-new,seasoned,beat 150-280' +/-
3 170's teebrds-cfr tl, dx, pro tl- 300'-375' shots
2 dx beasts-long shots
2 174 tsunamis-wind, fades, tommys/thumbs

i throw the same discs for forehand shots as backhands, though my forehands do not go near as long. tsunami for forehand rollers, pro tl for backhand rolls

Tourny 11/6 Bag Config

1 1st Run Z Flash 169 (main driver- no wind, cross wind, tail wind)
1 Z Flash 174 (very little wind, big hyzer flip)
1 Z Talon 172 (into light wind)
1 11x Teebird 166 (control/ roller)
1 11x Teebird 163 (Long Turnover, touch straight)
1 SE Leopard 170 (turnover, roller, % of power)
1 X Pred 172 (into wind- big S Curve)
1 Blue Tsunami 167(long range hyzer)
1 Z Xtreme 174(Heavy wind, short range hyzer, skip)
1 Z Buzzz 173 Beat (straight mid)
1 D Wasp 177 New (headwind mid)
1 D Challenger 174 (upshot)
1 Black Soft Challenger 174 (Main Putter)
1 APX Swirl 172 (anhyzer putt)

need to add one disc, need to get to my lucky # 15....

Tourny this weekend... it'll be windy---

167 Super Soft Wizard
173 S Wizard
175 Z Magnet
177 Z Glide (Ace Race disc)
172 Z Buzzz
174 Photon Glo Wasp
174 Z Xtreme
150 Z Flick
167 Z Flash
166 Champ Orc

Try putting some Pro D Challengers i your bag. D plastic is better for putting then Z Challengers. They stick better on off center putts and they beat up so you can have a straight one and a turnover one all with the same mold. Then keep the Z for hyzers. Just a suggestion. I have found that when i look in the bags of pros they have about 4 drivers and anywhere from 4-6 Mids and 3-4 Putters. All in different stages of beatness and one Putter just for PUTTING so you dont have to mess it up hitting trees. I have three main basic molds in my bag. Preds (Tsunamis are included in this) Wasps ( BUZZZ ) and Challengers. Flicks are for trick shots mostly.

I have a 4 Diff pre molds. All have different flight paths. Ranging from HARD HYZER to flip shots and Rollers. I have 4 Wasp Molds. From Hard Hyzer to flip shots. 4 Challengers again Hard Hyzer to flip shots. Then one Cam Todd just for putting. This has helped my game ALOT. Sorry about the thread drift i just got that in my head and figured it might help someone



Yeah. THe reason why I have so many different drivers is because I don't want to think about throwing different to make a disc do a different thing.

For example. I know i an get my JK Valks to go to the right, I don't want to force my CE TL(for example) to do the same flight path.

If you also see the amount of time it takes for me to get ready, you will know that I don't want to do a lot of thinking before I throw. That is probably my downfall, but once I decide on a disc I don't want to change my mind, screw up and say to myself(I should have thrown my original shot).

The next thing that will come out of my bag will be the Starfire because I can get the Tbird to do the same flight path if needed.

I throw all the same molds and they just all do different things when i throw them. I dont have to force them they just fly different. You just buy lighter ones or beat up the ones you have. It was just a suggestion. It happend to work for me.

Like you could throw a CE T then a CE TL then a Beat up Pro Line TL then a REALLY BEAT proline TL and get 4 drasticly different flight patters. Hyzer Then Straight Then Turnover then Flippy or ROLLER. I think its just makes you more consistent because you are always throwing the same disc just for different types of shots. :D

yeah I know what you are saying...

That is what I am doing with my rocs.

And I love my cryztal Z challengers. The only time they haven't worked for me is when I was under a ton of stress, and I would missed those putts even if I had a trashcan lid.

Hey, Cheat... what bag are you using for all of those discs??? :D

Bulldog
Orc
AviarX
Firebird
Roc
Viking

"Yeah. THe reason why I have so many different drivers is because I don't want to think about throwing different to make a disc do a different thing."

I get asked about that all the time by local three disc charlies. They say you only need three discs, which is very true. But agree with the cheat. I just want to make the same throw over and over again and not think about what I need to do with the disc. I know what each one does and pull out different discs for differnet turns and distances. It is just like ball golf. You can do it with just three clubs but it is alot of work.

Here it goes.

Discs:
171 blue Champion Rhyno (300' and in stable/overstable)
174 broken in yellow Smallbead Aviar (300' and in understable)
175 beat tan S Wizard (300' and in stable/understable)
174 broken in white Demon (275'-350' hyzers)
170+ broken in yellow Champion Beast(400+' hyzer flips and tailwinds)
175 green Starfire (350'-425'straight, slight hyzer finish)
172 blue CE Firebird (350+' hyzers)
175 blue Champion Orc (400+' Max D headwind disc)
167 red Champion Orc (400+' Huge D and tailwind D)
179 11x KC Roc (350' and in overstable Roc)
180 beat 10x Roc (350' and in understable Roc)
174 baby blue Lonestar Cafe San Marino (350' and in stable Roc)
179 green Champion Cobra (350' and in finesse disc)
174 blue proto Element (no telling, just came in the mail)

Putters:
171 orange SE Rhyno (stable putter)
170+ beat orange SE Rhyno (stable/understable putter)
175 beat white Classic Aviar (floaty trickshot putter)

Other Junk:
2 black sharpies
1 purple Crown Royal bag containg no less than a pound and a half of change
2 originally white towels (now somewhere between tan and brown)
1 Birdie Bag
3 minis
2 pencils
more cigarette butts than I care to count
a half dozen or so trash bags (for cleaning up everyone else's mess)
a cheap compass (found it on the course during the summer, it never made it out of the bag)
other trash (see note for compass for more details)

You guys have too many discs in the bag, that tends to create indecision.

2 174 champion putters - (Always take two of your fav putter)

176 glo san marino roc - trusty slow midrange disc

171 2001 CE roc - reliable mid range, a tad faster, travels better low than the san marino + a tad more distance.

166 champion stingray - good for what ails you - superb straight disc thrown with a touch of hyzer not quite as long as most drivers but easy to throw, turnovers, rollers, THE utility disc.

166 Z Flash my current go to driver, goes nearly dead straight a long ways, just a little movement right and left.

166 champ orc, not using it too much just now, but a great line drive disc when thrown low with a bit of come back at the end (more than the flash)

150 Z-Flick easy side arm disc for someone with not a great side arm + thrown backhand easy to keep straight with a left kick/skip at the end, sometimes use it up hill, the 150 weight makes it easy on the arm, almost effortless, but not quite as much D as the Flash or Orc.

165 Z-Flick This baby goes hard left.

Used to carry a rule book, (still a good idea I plan to replace mine it got soaked)
Golf Ball (I do play Senerca and Rockburn)
Sharpies, score cards, phone, towels, 10 foot tape measure,minis, cups, water, usually a beer.

1-175 APX Swirl (putts inside 50 feet, will turn when I need it to)
1-174 Elite X Soft Challenger (inside 200� straight in and turns)
1-175 Elite X Buzzz (straight and predictable light turns inside 250�)
1-171 Z-Wasp (hard straight shots and predictable moderate turns inside 250�, tree top approaches)
1-172 Elite X Xpress (hyzer/flat 250-300�, big right turns, doesn't roll yet)
1-172 Elite X spiral-dye Stratus (hyzer straight and right turns, rollers)
1-172 T-Bird L (it's a T-bird, what can I say ... nothing else flies/feels like it. Straight, long, predicable BH, FH)
1-172 Elite X XL (straight backhand and forehand driver 250-300+�, dependable backup and mulligan driver)
1-168 Z Flash (driver 300+�, tomahawk, thumber, tree trimmer) broken in, flies pretty straight -- a fantastic disc
1-172 Z Flash (driver 300+�) new
1-150/172 Z Flick, still learning this disk. New, it's really overstable so it's great for moderate to long turns. Can't tell if it's going to change a lot yet.
Like Sharky said, it's a great uphill disc, light and fast and can do some tricky turns.

This is the line-up for the course I play regularly, CMC Glenwood Springs CO (alt. approx. 7500-feet). There are a lot of trees and sagebrush. No lawn grass on the course. This course forces you to contend with rocks, altitude, rough terrain, and occasional rough weather conditions. It's brutal on disks.
The color of disks should be considered. Bright colors are recommended or you may loose discs in the trees, or the sagebrush. White discs are not when there are snow patches on the ground � this make it nearly impossible to find your disk if you loose sight of it. Dull Fly-dyes and old Innova discs practically disappear in the sagebrush and rocks. There are not a lot of roller opportunities on the course -- sagebrush stops discs!

Other items in my bag: Full 32 oz. Nalgene water bottle! Medical tape, moleskin, band-aids, ibuprophen, antacid, lighter, pocket-knife (It's not a walk in the park -- it's in the mountains. Rattlesnakes have been met!), Apple Skoal, a towel (or two when it�s snowing), Pepper spray for bears and mountain lions (just kidding, but I know they are out there -- might be a good idea to carry some), Petzl headlamp, light jacket or pullover.

Drivers:
175 S Element (green)
175 E Element (gray)
167 H Element (yellow)
175 S Wizard (white hard)

Approach:
172 E Wizard (orange domey)

Putter:
175 S Wizard (rust medium)

It works great for me. I just shot a round of birdies only, and the last rouond I played, I hit metal 3 times in the same round! These are MY discs.

I want to add some more. I would like to get some more S and E Elements, closer to max weight. I would also like to have a couple more S Wizards and maybe another E Wizard.

Drivers:
175 S Element (green)
175 E Element (gray)
167 H Element (yellow)
175 S Wizard (white hard)

Approach:
172 E Wizard (orange domey)

Putter:
175 S Wizard (rust medium)

It works great for me. I just shot a round of birdies only, and the last rouond I played, I hit metal 3 times in the same round! These are MY discs.

I want to add some more. I would like to get some more S and E Elements, closer to max weight. I would also like to have a couple more S Wizards and maybe another E Wizard.



How do you play with no drivers?

I'm guessing that DiscGraham plays at Cornwall Park in Bellingham, WA. A driver is not usually neccesary because the holes are very short.

what about wind?-- i know that no element can hold up to a decent headwind

beat up pro t bird
new 11x t bird
broken in 11x tbird
beat up shark
beat magnet
new champ aviar
MS aurora
just lost my super rock :mad:
champ orc

Update:
Starfires
Beasts
Teebirds
Vikings

Super Roc
PL Roc

Challengers
(X & UV)

PT Woods
# 20431

I have played lots of rounds with only mids and putters. I have to say that those rounds help, but I need drivers!

Updated list; (Max unless specified)

Champion- Beast, Orc, Firebird, Aviar, Rhyno

Z- Wildcat (168), Wildcat (172), Pred., Talon, Flash, Buzzz, Breeze (172), Wasp

S- g5i Demon

DX-TeeBird (149!)

Aviar P & A

CE- Leopard!

1 Champion Firebird
3 Champion Teebirds
1 Champion Tl
1 Dx Teebird
4 Dx Rocs
4 Dx Rhynos
All max weight.

1 174 Z Flick~~All Forehands and Skip shots
174 Z Pred~~Hard Hyzers and Spikes
174 Z Tsunami~~Long Hyzers~Spikes and S Shots
174 Fusion Tsumani~~Straight Shots~Turnovers and Distance
170 X Pred~~Flip Shots and Rollers
172 Z Wasp~~Hyzers inside 350
177 D Wasp slightly beat~~Control Shots inside 350
178 Z BUZZZ~~Straight shots inside 350
170 Z BUZZZ~~Turnovers inside 350
177 D BUZZZ Slightly Beat~~Flip shots and Huge Turns inside 350
177 D BUZZZ New~~Breaking in a Replacement for when the Beat D BUZZZ dies :(
5 Challengers 3 Pro D and 2 Crystal Z for pretty much everything inside 250

3 "CE" Spirits
1 "H/E" Speed Demon
2 "E" Spirits
2 "S" Illusions
1 "H" Illusion
3 "S" Blazes
2 "S" Demons
5 Wizards (3 "S", 1 "H" and 1 "E")
1 "H/E" Element
1 "S" Element

Soon to be a few Element X's though for sure!!

Are you sponsored by Gateway???

Are you sponsored by Gateway???


Yes.

Just checking.

What do you they give you for your sponsorship???

150-gm JK Pro Champion Valk
169-gm KC Pro Champion Teebird
171-gm Z Flash
175-gm Z Reaper

173-gm Z-Buzzz
172-gm Z-Wasp
167-gm S-Demon

173-gm X-Putt'r
172-gm Proto Wizard

2 champ beasts
2 champ teebirds
2 pro birds (1 T and 1 TL)
2 buzzzs (1 z and 1 X)
2 rams
1 ROC (giving it another chance)
1 whippet (checking it out)
2 D magnets
1 soft magnet

1 UV Challenger
2 X Challenger
2 D Wasp
2 X Wasp
1 Z Wasp
3 DX Teebird
3 KC 11x Teebird
1 Champ Monster
1 X Wildcat
1 QJLS

I have a local friend who used to be sponsored by Gateway, also used to be sponsored by Discraft most recently. He said that he quit Team Gateway because they would not make an understable midrange, and they would not give him a team shirt to wear. He quit Discraft because they wanted him to play more tournaments.

I would recommend playing a few rounds with just your putters. Another local and I had a challenge, he played with only Rocs, and I only Aviars. He beat me obviously on the drives. I could only get a 300ft roll out of my Proline Avair, but I was beating him on putting. He shot a 53 while I shot a 55 on a long par 54 course. But it definately helped my game, next I will try a round with all midranges.

175 Champ Viking
168 Champ Orc
164 Champ Beast
172 DX Beast (leaving soon)
171 DX Teebird
175 11xKC Pro Cheetah
170 DX Leopard (beat) roller & thumber
175 Classic Roc
2- 171 DX Roc (1 beat, 1 slightly beat)
2- 169 DX Aviar P & A (beat & slightly beat)

2 pro rhynos max
1 dx rhyno max
2 champ spiders max
2 dx spiders 168ish
2 cfr TLs 172ish
2 dx tees 172ish
3 dx beasts 150,171,172
tsunami 174
z-pred 174
champ sidewinder 169

Drivers:
1 Yellow Champion Valk. 175g
1 White Starfire 174g
1 White CE Eagle 174
1 Orange Champion Eagle 174
1 Orange DX Eagle 174

Mid:
Yellow Elite X Buzzz 178+
Green Elite Z Buzzz 178+
Orange 2005 Roc 179
Orange Elite Z Wasp 178+
Orange D Wasp 178+
Orange RAM

Putters:
Purple Aviar Putter 175 (my first putter, i got 13 years ago)
Black Beadless Aviar 173
Gold 20th Anniv. Aviar 174
Orange Aviar 174 One Moe

: ) :

Drivers-
167 S Illusion (straight/right)
168 S Illusion (Straight/left)
177 H Speed Demon (tricks)

Midranges-
175 E Element (straight/right)
175 S Element (Straight)
167 H Element (hard right, big s-curve, trick shots)
173 S Demon (left, skips)

Putters-
174 E Wizard (Taking up space. Will be removed soon)
174 S Hard Wizard (All approaches, most drives, sidearm approaches)
175 S Medium Wizard (Putting, straight/left drives)

Well that's it. I think that's 10 now? Seems like alot!!
By the way, we finally put in a long hole (1025') so now I have an excuse to carry drivers!! :cool:

havent done this in a while...

drivers:
175 champion orc
174 champion orc
168 champion orc
160 champion orc
170 pro orc
174 champion beast
175 proline monster
174 kc 11x teebird
174 cfr TL teebird
166 SE TL teebird

mids:
178 Z wasp
177 Z buzzz
177 X buzzz
172 Z glide

putters:
175 E wizard
175 S wizard firm
172 S wizard super soft

Z-Predator
Z-Talon
2 Orcs
2 CE TLs
X-Wildcat (beat up for rollers)
KC Roc
E Element
S Element
2 Wizards
2 Aviar putters (beat up so nice)

everything is max weight

oregano

Drivers

2 175 0rcs,
172 Orc
175 CE Teebird
175 KC Teebird 11time
2 175 TL's
175 KC Eagle
175 Starfire

Mid

2 10 time rocs
11 time roc
flat top roc
champion shark

Putters

2 10 time aviars
big bead aviar
pro line rhyno
11 time aviar

variation of orcs!!

Very skunky nuggets

gtsm indsm!!

i think i have my setup for 2005

firebirds,beasts, valks, glo leopards, sm shark, sm roc, glo rocs, q sentinal, and kc aviars in a wall city bag.

well i guess i will start with the drivers and work my way down...

1-175 Champ Orc: Big open drives. 450'+
1-169 Champ Viking: Hyzers that flip flat or Anhyzers that turn corners. Also good uphill. 450'+
1-171 Champ Firebird: Forehand shots, thumbers, & long hyzers. 350'-
1-171 CE Eagle: Thumbers, straight drives with hyzer finnish, & hyzer drives. 400'-
1-169 Champ Eagle: Hyzer drives that will flatten out but still finnish to the left. 425'-
1-174 Champ TeeBird: Straight shots or long smooth anhyzers. 450'-
1-172 Pro Line Leopard: Rollers and Anhyzers that wont come back. 500'+ (rollers) 400'- (anhyzers)
1-175 CE Spider: Hyzer or Flat shots for those tighter holes. 350'-
1-180 10x Roc: Hyzers that flip over & anhyzers that wont come back. 350'
1-180 11x Roc: Hyzers that flatten out and stay straight & 7 o' clock hyzers that hold and glide left. 350'
1-176 Dx Cobra: Mid range rollers (big backhanders and little flick rollers). 350'-
2-175 10x Aviar: Short Range Drivers and Putts when I am just not feeling the Glo Aviar. 300'-
1-150 Aviar P&A: Tunnel Putts that hold a line. 40'-
1-174 Glo Aviar Putter: Most of my putts. 60'-

theres also the other junk in my bag (innova deluxe bag w/ Phenix straps) such as: tape, minis, sharpies, pencils, Ibuprofen, band aids, water bottle, and my handy dandy shot of epinephrine for when i get stung by those *$^ #@%) yellow jackets. i think that just about does it.
later
Chris

back to the small bag--
2 rhynos 175
2 spiders 168/175
2 teebirds 172
2 dx beasts 172
tsunami 174
z-pred 174
sidewinder 169

2 light Orc's
Champion Viking
Sidewinder
DX Whippet
Super Roc
Beadless Aviar

2 Champ Orcs
2 Champ Teebird
Champ Firebird
Champ Sidewinder
Element X
2 "E" Elements
2 Demons
3 Wizards
Aviar P & A

2 orcs
3 teebirds
4 rocs
4 aviars
1 firebird

1 Firebird
1 Orc
3 Teebirds
1 Sidewinder
4 Rocs
4 Aviars
Revolution Texas Team bag with Quad Shocks

CE FX Firebird, X Talon, 2 Z & 1 X Wildcats, X Wasp, D Wasp, X Buzzz, 1 X & 1 C.T. Challengers, X APX, and the Super Puppy!
I know I've posted here before, but I just wanted to see some Discraft up on this mug!

171 Champ Teebird
165 Champ Teebird
169 dx Teebird
168 Champ Beast
150 dx Beast
171 dx Cheetah
168 dx Rhyno
169 dx Rhyno
169 SE Rhyno
171 dx Shark

5 Spirits
2 Illusions
1 Blaze
2 ElementXs
3 Elements
2 Demons
4 Wizards

[2] 175 10x Teebirds
170 Champ Orc
175 2nd Run Proline Orc
174 2nd Run CE TL
[2] 171 SE Leopards
174 Tsunami
172 Z Pred
174 Z Extreme
173 Z Buzzz
177 Z Buzzz
174 Soft Challenger
[2] 174 Swirl Apx

Update!!

168g H Illusion
177g S Illusion
149g S Illusion
169g Pro (Champ) Firebird
169g CFR TL
168g CFR TL
164g CFR TL
177g 2002 CE ROC
180g Full Color F.U. Roc
179g Full Color F.U. Roc
182g E Element
180g E Element
175g Firm Wizard
175g Medium Wizard

pro orc 167
champ orc 161
11x tb (2) 164/9
10x tb 169
pro tl 168
aurora ms 166
qms 169
super roc 170
soft rhyno 168
beat magnet 147
new magnet 147

175 champion monster
175 10x teebird
170 CE valkyrie
170 CE teebird TL
168 proto sidewinder
150 CE valkyrie
175 05 Champion ROC
165 gummy Aviar
135 ring stamp Aviar

175 Proto JK Aviar X
174 3x JK Pro Aviar-X
174 10x KC Pro Aviar
174 9x KC Pro Aviar

180 9x KC Pro Roc
176 10x KC Pro Roc
179 Proto SE Super Roc
179 05 USDGC Roc
174 04 USDGC Roc

170 Pro Line Beast
171 1st Run Sidewinder
172 CE Leopard
169 JK Pro Valkyrie
174 CE Teebird T
174 1st Run CE Teebird TL
174 1st Run Champion Whippet-X
175 CE Firebird FX
175 Pro Line Monster

PDGA Mini
Aviar Mini w, little rainbow mini lid tightly on :D
lighter
little LED lights
tape
marker
pencils stolen from other people on my card
and
some old sunflower seeds

there was a post from some lefty freak named f.luke - he carried:
3 aviars
4 rocs
2 t-birds
2 firebirds

hes an idiot.
i carry
3 aviars
3 rocs
2 t-birds
2 firebirds
1 orc

that's a <font color="red">REAL</font> bag.

2 Orcs 175, 172
2 Beasts 175, 170
2 Rocs 180, 174
1 Gazelle 174
1 Z-Xtreme 174
DX Cobra (first disc I owned)
2 Rhynos (Short Drives)
1 Wizard (Main Putter)

In a Revolution Texas Team bag.

a bunch of discs

175 Champion Teebird (Almost all long drives)
175 Champion Eagle (Main forehand driver)
173 Champion Firebird (Wind, thumbers)
173 Champion Sidewinder (turning disc, rollers when the snow melts)
173 First Run Crush (flippier than new ones, max "D")
173 Crush (Overstable max "D")
174 Flick (super eagle)

176 Z Wasp
176 Z Buzzz

2-174 Qmegas (putting and everything else inside 330' with unlimited ceiling)
174 Champion Aviar (like overstable Qmega)

been playing for 5 months

1 max weight pro-line beast (hyzer or anhyzer, open shots)
1 max weight champion beast (hyzer or anhyzer, wooded shots)
1 max weight champion valkyrie (anhyzer)
1 max weight elite xs (open shots, s-curve)
1 max weight pro-line orc (hyzer, open shots)
1 max weight aviar (short putts)(15ft and under)
1 max weight xd (long putts)

The bag is forever changing:

2 Beat up DX Aviar putters (main putter and understable upshots)
2 Wizards (stable upshots and headwind putts)
11x KC Roc X-out (very overstable)
E Element (straight shots)
S Element (worn in and really flippy)
Sidewinder (really love this disc for for hyzer flips and rollers)
2 CE TLs (all accuracy drives)
2 Orcs (pure distance)
Z-Flick (light headwind and long hyzers)
Z-Predator or Champion Monster (trying to decide on which one will fill the spot)

2 putters
4 rocs
4 drivers

2 putters
4 rocs
4 drivers



You left out the most important part.....
1/5 Evan

Discs~~Minis~~Sharpies~~Towels~~Chapstick~~Aleve~~ Advil~~Tums and some other random crap. :D

soft rhyno 175 putts and approach
hard rhyno 175 up to +/-200

demon 173 overstable mid
champ spider 175 main mid, straight w/ fade up to +/-300
dx spider 168 a little less stable than champ
stratus 169 control rollers[yea right] understable mid

cfr TL/dx teebird 172 main drivers
dx beast 172 longer teebird
tsunami 174 a little more stability
z-pred 174 a little more stability than the tsunami
champ sidewinder 169 understable, rollers

12 discs, small gateway bag

5 spirits 168-176 (varying stabilities) E&H plastic
1 illusion 174 (almost new)
1 sabre 170 (evolution plastic)
1 blaze 174 (s plastic)
1 element 178 (evolution)
1 element X 175 ( s plastic)
2 med. wizards 175 (drivers)
2 supersoft wizards 175 (putters)
1 demon 174 (s plastic)
about $10 in change :p

Update

171 11x Champ Teebird
165 11x Champ Teebird
169 dx Teebird
168 Champ Beast
163 Champ Beast
150 dx Beast
166 Champ Orc
171 dx Cheetah
168 dx Rhyno
169 dx Rhyno
169 SE Rhyno
171 dx Shark

The bulldog just went in the bag, the flash has exited.

1 - 174g Aviar-X
2 - 180g KCPro Rocs
1 - 174g Warrior
1 - 171g Champion Orc
4 - 169-75g CEFirebirds
1 - 176g KCPro Banshee
1 - 175g Champion Teebird
1 - 170g CE Teebird (L) Xout
1 - 169g CE Valkyrie

also a pencil, sharpie, PFC mini, sandpaper, aspirin, antacid, paper, and bagtag.

candy:teebird 175
banshee 175
flick 173
valkyrie 175
whippet ??? (doesnt really matter, hooks hard)
wasp 177
rhyno 170
areo ??? (could be from 177 to 185, downwind crush
freestyle/whamo160 (100 footers, NO WIND allowed)
softies:3 pro rhynos 175
rubber putter 173 (kinda like an areo???)
metal mini for rough situations,
golf balls, also for rough situations,
pencil, pen, sharpie, lighter and friends, and a towel.

2 Aviars (one DX JRP Stamped Flattop Aviar, one JK Aviar X)
1 Beat Omega SS
2 Flattop DX Rocs (one beat, one new)
2 '05 Rocs (one Special Blend, one Zonedriven X-Out)
2 Sidewinders
2 Valks (one JK, one CE x-out)
2 Beasts (one champion, one old proline)
2 Orcs
2 Starfires (one pro, one CFR)
2 Firebirds

For short courses I'll pull my driver duplicates and put additional Flattop rocs in.

One black metal mini, two sharpies, a rulebook, a towel, and a nalgene bottle.

Not a lot has changed............in order of stability....

Drivers:

<font color="blue"> Z-Xpress
Z-Flash
Z-Crush
X-Pred
Z-Pred
Z-Xrteme
</font>


Mids/Putt:

<font color="blue"> Swirlicious APX
Magnet
Holiday Buzzz
Z-Buzzz
Z-Wasp </font>

171 Sparkle Tsunami (Untill I get my 174s :D)
174 Blue Proline Tsumani
174 Orange Proline Tsunami (Beat IN)
174 Z Wildcat
177 Z Wasp
178 Z BUZZZ
174 Z BUZZZ
174 Z BUZZZ
177 D BUZZZ ( beat in )
177 D BUZZZ ( New )
167 First Run Z Glide ( Super Annys and Rollers )
172 Crystal Z Challenger ( Upshots and Drives )
172 First Run Cam Todd Challenger ( Upshots and Drives )
173 2nd Run Cam Todd Challenger ( Putter )

About to add another Z Wildcat and maybe a Drone

LONG:
Champ. Teebird - 172g (straight, tight drives)
Champ. Sidewinder - 175g (rollers)
Champ. Banshee - 175g (hyzers, skip shots)
Pro Starfire - 174g (distance)
DX ORC - 175g (distance)

MED/SHORT:
Champ. Whippet - 175g (hyzers, extreme skips)
Q Sentinel - 174g (straight approaches)
SE Rhyno - 170g (wind putter)
Blowfly - 140g (no wind putter)

Being that my home course is fairly short, the whippet is my main go to disc. I throw sidearm for most shots, backhand when neccesary.

Does anyone else carry a Blowfly in their bag? I cant get over how grippy it is, and how well it holds a line with so much glide.

A Blowfly/Gum-putt is the disc I recommend to newbies to play catch with...as it holds a wonderful line and it won't break any bones...!
Hyzer, anhyzer, straight shots...it does it all 'very' well!!

rocs
and teebirds
and putters

Getting ready for a tourney, but before clearing out the one's that I know I won't throw.

171 Candy Teebird
168 Candy Teebird
172 DX Firebird
171 Candy Firebird
169 Candy Banshee
159 Candy Orc
167 DX Viper
175 Z XS
169 JLS
167 Apache
175 Stratus
173 Roc
169 Sniper
169 Sniper
168 DX Gremlin
173.4 JUJU
172 Soft Magnet

174 D Challenger (Main Putter)
174 Cam Todd Challenger
174 Z Challenger
178 X Buzz
177 X Wasp
170 Z Reaper
169 Z Crush
173 Z Talon
174 X Predator
150 Z Flick
168 Z Flick
174 Z Flash
150 Z XS

I'm going to play a big course and my bag is set up as follows...


168 S Illusion
169 S Illusion
177 H Speed Demon
165 DX Teebird

175 S Element
175 E Element
174 DX Roc
173 S Demon

174 S Wizard
175 S Wizard
174 E Wizard

Should be fun!

S Illusion for somewhat straight holes and tailwind shots
2 New H/E Speed Demons(around 167) for huge anhyzer S curve drives and for headwinds
2 Older H/E Speed Demons used as flat flyers with a skip finish
1 H/E Sabre used for flat S curve holes and downhill holes.
2 beat in S Demons for midrange hook shots
2 E ElementX for straight to turnover midrange shots
5 wizards/chiefs for straight upshots

I am getting more discs soon. Mostly for backups.

2 rhynos 175
2 spiders 175/167
1 stratus 170
1 champ leopard 175
1 tsunami 174
1 z-pred 174
2 dx beast 172/150

Well, I can add my bag to this discussion :)

In my Innova Tour bag I have:

1 x CH dyed Teebird
2 x CH dyed ORC�s
4 x CH ORC�s (2 x white, 1 x Orange, 1 Yellow)
1 x CH dyed Beast
1 x CH Beast (Yellow)
2 x DX gator (yellow and white)
1 x MS Aurora 1.3
1 x Aviar Putter (white)
3 x 20 th ann. Aviar (gold!)

2 or 3 175 kc aviars
2 or 3 180 glo rocs
1 178 sm shark
2 175 glo leopards
2 or 3 175g candy beasts
1 175 candy valk
2 175 Orcs (pro and champion)
2 candy fx firebirds (pro and champion)

Putters:
1x DX Aviar..................................(175) Drives,Putts, Approaches
1x Classic Aviar.........................(175) Push Putts
1x Omega AP.............................(175) Turn over Drives
1x Crystal Z challenger.............(173-175) Hyzer Drives/Approaches
Mids:
1x DX ROC..................................(179) Turn over/Flat
1x ZBuzzz first Run.....................(178) Full Spectrum
1x '05 CE ROC............................(179) Stable pig
Drivers:
1x Z Flash First Run.....................(169 Lost one in a gap today in concret about 4 inches wide from 200feet out.. GRRR) Roller,FlipHyzer
1x Champ Teebird........................(172) Flat/Turnover
2x Teebird 11x..............................(175) Straight/Hyzer
1x Speed Demon........................(174) Lost my Monster and FB

Will hopefully be Acquiring another Flash(174) for distance.. and probably a pro/Champ Firebird and one of the PRO Aviars.

-Scott

I'm fairly new and my bag fluctuates a lot but it seems to be settling in a little more. I have some redundancy in there so I can compare discs on a shot-by-shot basis. Plus, I'm not a big tournament player so I'm not overly concerned with putting together an incredibly stable bag. Trying and using new discs is fun.

1 175g H/E Speed Demon - When I absolutely, positively have to throw a hyzer with a huge skip.
1 173g S Spirit - another fast, overstable disc. I'm looking to break it in so it turns into a straight flyer with a hard fade.
1 172g Champ Viking - Long drives/low ceiling.
1 175g DX Viking - Long drives/low ceiling. Hoping to beat it in to eventually become an anhyzer driver.
1 172g DX Teebird (worn in) - Straight drives.
1 175g Pro Teebird-L - very straight drives with little fade/anhyzer drives.
1 174g Warrior (H Blaze) - long-midrange with fade.
1 172g S Blaze - heavy headwind midrange, gradual long-midrange hyzer
1 180g E Element-X - straight midrange with fade, midrange hyzer.
1 180g S Element-X - straight midrange with fade, midrange hyzer. Comparing with the E.
1 180g E Element - straight midrange with no fade, midrange anhyzer.
1 180g S Element - straight midrange with no fade, midrange anhyzer. Comparing with the E, probably turn into midrange anhyzer.
1 175g E Wizard - short drives, short hyzers.
1 174g H Wizard - approach.
1 175g Medium S Wizard - short drives, short anhyzers.
1 173-174g X-Putt'r - putts.

On deck aka "I got them in the mail yesterday but haven't thrown them yet"
170 g Pro Starfire - longer drives
174g Pro Starfire - longer drives, perhaps some headwind.
175g Super Soft Wizard - putts.

I keep it at around 10-12 discs.

2 kc pro 175 aviars
2 175 dx rocs
c tiedye orc 172
glow maceman stamp tbird 175
soft sidewinder 159
c tiedye valk 175
c monster 172
c firebird 172
c tiedye rhyno 174
c cobra 175 (teh roller)

A few other get switched out for conditional purposes

175g Beadless Aviar
174g Pro Roc
180g SB Roc
174g DX Viking
174g DX Orc
173g Pro Starfire
160g Sidewinder

Drivers:
CFR Starfire 175g
Pro Starfire 174g
Ch. Valk 174g
CE Eagle 174g
Ch. Eagle 174g
Ch. Glow EL 174g
Midrange
05 Specator Roc 179g
05 SP Roc 180g
10x Roc
05 Glow Roc 180g
05 Super Roc 180g
Ontario Roc ECU Stamp 175g
Approach/Trick
Ch. Rhyno 175g
Pro Rhyno 175g
20th Anniversary Aviar 174g
10x Aviar 174g
RAM 180g
Putters
SB Aviar 175g Hands Stamp
SB Aviar 175g Hands Stamp

All discs either Orange or white(except the 20th Aviar, but i love her anyways)

: ) :

3 omega ap putters
1 jk aviar
2 rocs
2 gremlins
2 firebirds
2 champion teebirds
1 2nd run TL
1 orc
1 valk

I'm fairly new and my bag fluctuates a lot but it seems to be settling in a little more. I have some redundancy in there so I can compare discs on a shot-by-shot basis. Plus, I'm not a big tournament player so I'm not overly concerned with putting together an incredibly stable bag. Trying and using new discs is fun.

1 175g H/E Speed Demon - When I absolutely, positively have to throw a hyzer with a huge skip.
1 173g S Spirit - another fast, overstable disc. I'm looking to break it in so it turns into a straight flyer with a hard fade.
1 172g Champ Viking - Long drives/low ceiling.
1 175g DX Viking - Long drives/low ceiling. Hoping to beat it in to eventually become an anhyzer driver.
1 172g DX Teebird (worn in) - Straight drives.
1 175g Pro Teebird-L - very straight drives with little fade/anhyzer drives.
1 174g Warrior (H Blaze) - long-midrange with fade.
1 172g S Blaze - heavy headwind midrange, gradual long-midrange hyzer
1 180g E Element-X - straight midrange with fade, midrange hyzer.
1 180g S Element-X - straight midrange with fade, midrange hyzer. Comparing with the E.
1 180g E Element - straight midrange with no fade, midrange anhyzer.
1 180g S Element - straight midrange with no fade, midrange anhyzer. Comparing with the E, probably turn into midrange anhyzer.
1 175g E Wizard - short drives, short hyzers.
1 174g H Wizard - approach.
1 175g Medium S Wizard - short drives, short anhyzers.
1 173-174g X-Putt'r - putts.

On deck aka "I got them in the mail yesterday but haven't thrown them yet"
170 g Pro Starfire - longer drives
174g Pro Starfire - longer drives, perhaps some headwind.
175g Super Soft Wizard - putts.



That is a lot of different discs...

If you ever get a chance to do this, pick up some light S Illusions. When you beat them in a little, they will replace your vikings and with a little more spin they will be your turnover driver.

Your S-element will become very understable the more you use it and might become a roller. You might want to stick with the E-element as it will take longer to beat it in.

That is a lot of different discs...

If you ever get a chance to do this, pick up some light S Illusions. When you beat them in a little, they will replace your vikings and with a little more spin they will be your turnover driver.




Actually, I already replaced my Illusion with the Viking. The Viking feels much better in my hand and I prefer its flightpath to tha of the Illusion.

I know I have a lot of discs in there, but I tend to play by myself at times when the courses are empty so I'll throw a couple of different discs for any given shot. I sort of have the "how will I know what I like if I don't try them all?" mentality. Then when I'm playing with others or at a tournament I end up only using 4 or 5 different discs.

Also, remember that my bag isn't set up to minimize my scores, yet. It's set up to maximize my fun. I can also write it differently to make it look smaller:

Speed Demon/Spirit - headwind and hyzer
Viking - long drives
Teebird/TL - control driver
Blaze - headwind control/hyzers
Element/Element-X - midrange
Wizard - short drives
Putt'r - in the circle.

That is a lot of different discs...

If you ever get a chance to do this, pick up some light S Illusions. When you beat them in a little, they will replace your vikings and with a little more spin they will be your turnover driver.



Not a slam on Gateway here, but this is something I have always wondered about the people who throw them exclusively.

Why would you want to beat an overstable disc into submission just to have a turnover disc? One thing I prefer with the other two manufacturers, is that they design understable discs to turn right out of the box, and of course if you buy the high end plastic, it will last a long time before it turns into a roller.

Can anyone who throws exclusively Gateway explain this to me?

<font color="red"> 2 10x Teebirds </font>
<font color="red"> 1 Champ Orc </font> <font color="red"> </font>
1 Pro Orc <font color="red"> / </font> S Illusion
DX Teebird <font color="red"> / </font> S Sabre
SE Leopard <font color="red"> / </font> E Sabre
X Pred <font color="red"> / </font> H Illusion
Z Pred <font color="red"> / </font> E Spirit
<font color="red"> Z Extreme </font>
S Element <font color="red"> / </font> X Buzzz
2 Z Buzzz <font color="red"> / </font> E Element
Soft Challenger <font color="red"> / </font> SS Wizard
D Challenger <font color="red"> / </font> Med Wizard
<font color="red"> 2 Swirl Apx </font>

-Erick

You don't have to beat one into submission. I have a S Illusion that I have only been throwing for 2 weeks that is starting to become a turnover driver.

I have a Sabre that could be a turnover driver for me but I just don't like the feel of the dome.

Now I admit you have to beat the SD all to hell in order for it to be a turnover driver.

I actually forgot to list my one non-gateway disc in my bag: JK Valk. This is my turnover driver until my S-Illusion is used enough.

Spring Changes for 05'

Pro/CFR-Starfires
Pro/PL-Beasts
CH-Teebirds/L
CH/KC-Firebirds
CH-Sidewinders

CE/DX Roc's
CH-Gator

Challengers
(Soft &amp; CryZtal-Z)

PT Woods
# 20431

As spring approaches:
2 DX ORCS
2 E SPIRITS
3 CFR TL'S
2 05' CE ROCS
02' ROC
2 FULL COLOR ROCS
1 E ELEMENT
3 S WIZARDS
1 E WIZARD

3 orcs (1 Champ, 1 DX, 1 Pro)
3 beasts (1 Champ, 2 Pro)
3 firebirds (1 CE FL, 1 CE FX, 1 Old ProLine)
2 monsters (165, 175)
1 sidewinder (Hyzer-flips)
1 pro teebird (Extreme tailwind D)
4 rocs (05 SB, 04 Glow, 10X kc, DX bottomstamp<-----most overstable)
2 JK aviars

2-ce teebirds, ce eagle, champ eagle, 2-proline monsters, 2-cfr starfire, pro starfire, 2- champ sidewinders, champ viking, qjls, champ stingray, champ shark, champ whippet, q- omega, jk aviar

4 orcs, a sidewinder, a cobra, a stingray, 2 aviars. 1 Juliana XL(thats right i said XL) and a 1997 x-clone(trick shots). And as soon as i go to Rock HILL next week i am sure some starfires will be in there.

2-soft rhynos
3-10x KC Aviars
1-putt and approach aviar
3-11x KC Rocs
1-CE Teebird
1-CE Firebird
2-CFR Starfires
1-Pro Line Starfire
MJ

1 Pro Starfire
1 '150 Class' Champ Orc
2 Champ Orcs (1 beat, 1 new)
2 Dx Orcs (1 beat, 1 new)
2 Pro TL's (1 beat, 1 new)
1 Dx Shark
1 KC Roc
2 Super Rocs (1 beat, 1 new)
2 KC Aviars (1 beat, 1 new)

all discs max weight (or as close as I can get) 'cept the 150 orc

2 Ch. Beasts (175/165)
2 Ch. TeeBirds (175/165)
1 Ch. Sidewinder (165)
1 Ch. Leopard (165)
1 CE Spider (173)
1 Proline Spider (174)
1 Ch. Spider (171)
1 DX Spider (171)
1 Pro Rhyno (175)
1 JK Aviar (175)
1 KC Aviar (175)
2 DX Aviar Putters (175)

Aviar P&A
CE Avair
KC Aviar x 2
KC Roc x 2
SB Roc
Champ Roc
Pro Firebird (candy) and/or Champ Monster
Champ Orc (night shift)
CE TeeBird T
Champ TeeBird
10x TeeBird
CFR TL
Champ Sidewinder

174 Z Tsunami (main driver)
175 Champ Orc (when I'm not throwing the Tsunami well)
170 E Spirit (thumbers and long hooks)
172 Champ Viking (long accuracy)
165 Z XS (long turnovers)
175 E Element-X (long midrange)
182 S Element (midrange turnovers)
172 Z Buzzz (main midrange)
174 S Demon (midrange hooks)
175 E Wizard (dead-straight approach)
175 Supersoft Wizard (main putter)

CE Teebird, CE Leop, 1 Orc, 1 Starfire, 1 Sidewinder. Also, Flick and Monster for wind and spikes.


A few beat dx rocs, an X Buzz, Champ Gator and Whippet.


1 Cryzstal Challenger, and my XD for putts and ups.

174 Proto S Element (beat - no power turnovers)
182 Proto E Element (used - no power straight)
179 E Element (new - no power straight, slight hyzer finish)
180 E Element X (hyzer mid)
174 Proto S Element X (straight mid)
180 Proto S Element X (turnover mid)
175 SE Leopard (longer than mid control shots)
175 Champion Monster (thumbers/tomahawks short hyzers that skip)
170 Champion Firebird (thumbers/tomahawks)
172 CE Firebird (spike hyzers)
175 Pro Starfire (brand new but flies farther than anything so far)
173 CFR Starfire (new - headwind straight drives)
175 CFR Starfire (used - straight drives)
175 Champion Beast (new - slight turnovers/tailwinds)
175 Champion Beast (used - turnovers)
174 Demon (used - hyzer mid/strong headwinds)
175 S Wizard (beat - turnover short drives)
174 S wizard (used - short drives)

Putters
175 Glo Aviar P&A (turnover putter)
170 Aviar P&A (putter)
172 SE Rhyno (approaches/hyzer putter)

For Spring.....

Putters..

9x KC....172g
10x KC....175g
11x KC....175g
DX Aviar...175g

Mids...

180g Champion Glo Roc
180g Opaque QMS
175g Pro Line Gremlin
175g Champion Whippet

Drivers...

CE Leopard.....175g
CE Teebird......174g
QJLS..............174g
Pro Starfire......175g
Pro Orc...........175g
Champion Orc..175g
DX Orc.............175g
Pro Line Beast..175g
S.S. Sidewinder..175g

This will change,Im trying out the Pro Starfire and the Sidewinder. Does anyone else think the DX Orc and the Pro Starfire are basically the same disc?

Drivers: All max cept 172 Orc, CE Tbird, CE Fbird, CE Valk, CE Leopard, CE Eagle
Mids: 11xRoc, 2005 White spectator Roc (super flat, nipple top) Champ Rhyno
Putters:Jk proto (long putts) Bigbead Gridstamp (inside the circle) Aviar Putter (quickly becoming my favorite driver) :D

Drivers
168 E Sabre
171 11x Champ Teebird
165 11x Champ Teebird
169 dx Teebird
168 Champ BS Beast
163 Champ Beast
150 dx Beast
166 Champ Orc
171 dx Cheetah

Midrange
166 S Element X
171 dx Shark

Putters
168 dx Rhyno
169 dx Rhyno
169 SE Rhyno
168 S/H Wizard

I'm going to play a big course and my bag is set up as follows...


168 S Illusion
169 S Illusion
177 H Speed Demon
165 DX Teebird

175 S Element
175 E Element
173 S Demon

174 S Wizard
175 S Wizard
174 E Wizard

Should be fun!



Well I went out with this bag and came back with 2 DX Teebirds, 1 Champion Eagle, and a DX Viking. I love playing people for discs! Now why couldn't I have won some Gateway?!

current setup (changes slightly sometimes)

putters:
172 S wizard supersoft (putts)
175 S wizard firm (approaches)
175 E wizard E9i (drives)

mids:
175 D Drone 1st run
178 Z wasp
177 Z Buzzz 1st run
177 X Buzzz 1st run
178 D Buzzz (slightly beat)
172 Z Glide (Acerace proto)

Drivers:
175 11x teebird
174 CE teebird TL
174 CFR teebird TL
174 SE teebird TL (beat)
175 CH Orc
174 CH Orc
175 DX Orc
169 Pro Orc
175 Proline Monster
174 CH Beast (Beat)

Get ready to laugh, even though I lost my Aerobie Arrow.

Drivers (understable to overstable):
HX-2 Prostyle (test replacement for my corkscrew-overhand Z Crush)
D-1 Prostyle
Riptide
Champion Orc (Yellow)
Chamion Orc (Pink)
Tsunami
H Illusion
E Spirit
E Speed Demon

Midranges:
Optimizer (yes, Optimizer. And I traded for a backup.)
CE Element
E Blaze
#2 Driver (Glow)
E Element-X
E Sabre
Q Sentinel
CE Blaze (this is actually Beached Will's that I forgot to give back, I'm getting my own soon)

Putters:
Soft Chief (at least, based on the descriptions I think it's a soft)
US-1 Prostyle
Proto Excelerator (now called the Juju...not sure why exactly I still carry this; I never use it anymore.)

And a Hydra, because it makes me feel less nervous throwing short distances over water.

175 Champion Monster
174 Z-Flick (new)
174 Z-Flick (beat)
175 Champion Orc
175 CE TL
175 Sidewinder
180 S Element (beat to crap)
182 E Element
180 Big Bird DX Roc (perfectly seasoned)
180 2004 CE Glow Roc
175 Aviar putter (beat)
175 Medium Wizard

Pro Firebird
CE Glo Eagle
1st Run Orc (New)
1st Run Orc (Beat)
2nd Run Orc (Beat)
CE Glo TL
2nd Run CE Leopard
4th Run CE Leopard
10X Roc (New)
X Wasp (Beat)
10X Roc (Slighty Used)
10X Roc (Really Beat)
DX Roc (super old)
Champion Shark
10X Avair
Big Bead Avair
3 Small Bead Avairs

Is that still that faded-to-heck 10x I sold you?

Also...which of those isn't white? You have one disc that isn't white, right?

174 Z Pred
175 Champ Teebird
169 Champ Orc
175 Champ Sidewinder (1st run)
180 Champ Stingray

178 Z Wasp
177+ X Wasp
177+ X Comet

174 DX Rhyno
174 Wizard (Soft)

172g champ valk
172g champ orc
172g champ monster
175g champ firebird
175g champ teebird

175g d XL

174g X buzzz
175g champ gator

175g d challenger

1/8g HukLab dual mini... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

New bag changeout:
(all max weight)

5 Elite X Wildcats
1 Elite Z Wildcat (for headwind or thumbers only)
5 Elite X Buzzz
1 Elite X Wasp
4 Elite X Challengers

16 discs... four choices. Simplification is the key, IMO.

MR Bungle..
I'm not a player to play only one company's discs, but that's an awesome bag... Seems like you have a good technique to be able to throw all x and still have decent stability.. most people have wicked overstable stuff because they seem to lack somewhere..
IF they had longer throwing putters.. I'd only have putters in my bag :)....

My bag as of Right now:
Putters:
1x Omega AP (174 beat for anny drives and anny Ups)
1x Classic Aviar (175 Flat with gentle/flat anny)
1x Dx Aviar P&A (175 Putter and Flat upshots)
1x Crystal Z Challenger (174 Overstable driver and Hyzer Aproaches)
1x Wizard Firm 174 (Testing.. seems like a nice little flat/anny driver)

Midranges:
1x DX ROC (179.. beat for turnovers)
1x Z-buzzz First RUN (178... Full spectrum.. mostly flat/hyzer)
1x 2005 ROC X-out (179.... Stable Pig..)

Drivers:
1x DX Gazelle (171. pulled out of somewhere.. Beat for GENTLY thrown hyzer flips and Testing for rollers)
1x Z-flash First run (169.. Hyzer Flip and Roller.. Testing)
1x Champion Teebird (172.. Flat/turn/Distance in wind)
2x Teebird 11x OLD proline stamp (175.. Both stable.. one moreso...)
1x Proline Monster (175.. Testing out.. old and beat for late turnovers and rollers)
1x First Run Spirit (stable and nice Skip.. Ridiculous skip like the Speed demon..)

Only reason i have the spirit is because i'm out of firebirds and stable monsters...
Also adding a 174 Z-flash to my bag..

-Scott Lewis

Putters:
172 BB Grid Aviar
175 BB Grid Aviar

Midranges:

179 Sanny Roc
179 9x Kc Pro Roc
179 11x Kc Pro Roc
179 2001 CE Roc

Drivers:

175 CFR Starfire
173 Pro Beast
174 Pro Line Monster
174 CE Teebird T
172 Champion Viking
174 Champion Sidewinder

Greatzky - thanks man. I have a very consistent throw. Though the X Wildcat and X Buzz are a little understable for me, I'm correcting from a few years of trying to fill my bag with meathooks (super stable discs). I used to throw all Innova, but I had WAY too many choices of discs in my bag. I decided the best thing to do when simplifying was to just go all the way (switch brands). Now I just focus on execution, and it has really been paying off for me. I do occasionally flip stuff over a bit with this bag, but it's WAY better than watching everything hyzer out too early. Plus, starting the Wildcat off with a bit of hyzer, I have added 30+ feet to my drives working that flip and fade. I'm not a crusher by any means, but 350 is better than 320.
Hey, have you thrown an X Challenger, and if so how does the stability of it compare to the Crystal Z Challenger? I was going for all the same feel, but I sure like the looks of those crystal Challengers. Pretty plastic, and probably alot more durable.

I throw
1 FireBird FX - Headwind and Hyzer
4-5 TeeBirds - Distance and control
3 Sentinel MF 1.2 - Midrange
4-5 Aviar - Shortrange

Innova

usually my bag consists of:
1 valkyre 170 wt.
1 teebird max wt.
1 leopard 170 wt.
sometimes a TL max wt.
1 viking max wt.
2 or 3 rocs various wts.
1 champion cobra max wt.
sometimes a champion stingray
1 rhyno max wt.
pro challenger or cryztal challenger
1 spider
jk aviar-x stiffy

there used to be another thread for this... i couldn't find it either.

currently:

3 aviars - 1 beat 10X, 1 newish 10X, 1 2001 CE.
3 rocs - 1 beat 10X, 1 DX, 1 2001 CE
2 t-birds - 1 beat CE, 1 newish glow CFR
2 firebirds - 1 beat FL, 1 new Champion
1 orc

thinking bout dropping both 10X aviars and replacing with 1 new 2001 CE and adding another roc to the mix.

there used to be another thread for this... i couldn't find it either.

currently:

3 aviars - 1 beat 10X, 1 newish 10X, 1 2001 CE.
3 rocs - 1 beat 10X, 1 DX, 1 2001 CE
2 t-birds - 1 beat CE, 1 newish glow CFR
2 firebirds - 1 beat FL, 1 new Champion
1 orc

thinking bout dropping both 10X aviars and replacing with 1 new 2001 CE and adding another roc to the mix.



that way if you accidently leave 1 2001 Roc out on the course, you can easily replace it?






My bag...
Pro Starfire
CFR Starfire
Sidewinder
2 JK valks
1 2003 CE Roc
1 2005 SB Roc
1 ElementX
1 Speed Demon.
3 Wizards
1 Soft Challenger

sheesh, where's the QUALITY love???

here's my current setup:

show side
1 first run z-flash, blue
1 first run z-crush, Dr Dye enhanced
1 venom
1 z-pred
1 first run z-flick 150g
1 first run z-flick full weight
1 z-talon
1 beat up bad elite XS

dough side
3 magnets (1 soft, 2 hard)
2 glides ('04 ace race)
1 first run z-buzz
1 proto drone

the show side and the dough side!!

LMAO!!!

What a classic line!

Currently I have These in my bag:
Putters:
1 Aviar P&A ........(Max weight... Beat, but still stable.. jump putting)
1 Classic Aviar.....(Max weight... PUsh putting)
1 Omega AP......... (Max... BEAT for turnovers)
1 Crystal Z Challenger... ( Hyzers and more Hyzers)
Midranges:
1 First Run Buzzz............( Max weight... beat but still stable)
1 First Run Buzzz............(171 and flippy)
1 2005 CE ROC x-out.... (Hyzers and more Hyzers)
Drivers:
1 DX Gazelle.................. (171 Beat.. Hyzerflips and Rollers)
1 Champion Leapord.... (max NEW for hyzerflips and slight turns)
1 CE TL .........................(max for mostly straight)
1 11x Teebird ................(max and used, but still stable. Hyzers)
1 Old Proline monster.... (Max... Stable pig)

Experimenting with:
1 used 11x teebird(best teebird ever made)
1 Crystal Z buzzz (not as flat as first runs)
1 Jk Aviar (Softest rim i've ever felt for a JK.. Stable)
1 DX Roc (slightly Used, but stable Version)

-Scott Lewis

Got an abridged back in oz.....

Champ Orc (Isn't broken in yet, haven't really gotten used to it..Will be for sidearm distance in a while).
Pro Starfire (Sidearm distance)
2 JK Valks (One super beat for turnovers..Current sidearm disc)
2 10x Teebirds (Straight & control shots)
CE Leopard (Low ceiling control shots)
JLS (Super Beat for short turnovers & Rollers)
3 Rocs ( 2 dx and one new 2005 SB)
2 Wizards (Soft and SS)

I got...

2 DX Beasts
1 Champ Beast
1 Champ Firebird
1 CE Eagle
1 CFR TL
1 Pro Line Orc
1 Glow teebird
2 X-Storms
1 Z-Wasp
1 Z-Buzzz
1 D-Buzzz
1 Champ Spider
1 CryZtal Challenger
1 Super Soft Wizard

Yes, it's probably too many discs and no, I don't care. ;)

Actually, I just got a bunch of new discs so I have them in there to check them out. I value having fun over being compeditive at the moment and I find trying out new discs to be fun. The ones with '*'s by them are new and I haven't thrown them yet.

*1 176g White E Speed Demon
*1 174g Glow E Spirit
*1 172g White H Illusion
1 170g Blue Pro Starfire
1 172g Red Champ Viking ("Zipper" maybe?)
1 175g Blue DX Viking
1 175g Opaque Yellow QJLS
1 175g White Pro Teebird-L
1 176g White, sort of transluscent E Sabre
1 174g Blue, almost clear E Sabre
1 172g Yellow S Blaze
*1 174g Orange H Element-X
1 176g Yellow S Element-X
1 182g White E Element
*1 178g Green H Element
1 175g White E Wizard
1 175g Blue S Med. Wizard
1 174g Blue H Wizard
1 175g White SS Wizard

There's a bunch of overlap at the moment, especally in the drivers. The Sabres, QJLS and TL all sort of fill the same spot. I'm still messing with all of them to see which I really like the best.

The Wizards, Element, Element-X and Blaze combo is pretty set as far as which molds I'm using. I haven't decided on plastics yet. It would be nice to use all S Element-X's but the one I have just isn't wearing out very fast so I don't know what it will really be like worn in. Plus, the E Element is just so nice. I don't know what the Hs are like, yet, though. The H Element will have to be pretty cool to stop me from eventually just having two E Elements in there (one for backup).

I'm also unsure of how the Starfire and Vikings fit in together. The Champ Viking is nice for when I want some distance and fade in the woods. The DX is nice for controlled distance and the Starfire seems to just be there for pure distance. However, I do seem to have quite a bit of control with the Starfire. It seems like with all of these incremental improvements with the discs I'm ending up with something between my fairway drivers and longest drivers. Perhaps that's where the Viking fits in. It also seems to work well for low ceiling shots at fairway driver type distances, too. Who knows, I like to throw them both so they're both in there. ;)

The Spirit, Illusion and Speed Demon are all new so I'm not really sure how they'll fit in. If the E Spirit is straighter than the S then it will probably stay for low ceiling and headwind shots. I've heard rumors of not-insanely-overstable Speed Demons so we'll see what happens with the one I got. I'm guessing it will be very overstable and probably not very useful for me yet.

3 starfires. (2 cfr, 1 pro)
1 valk
6 roc (05 glow, 05 spectator roc, 05 SB, 10x, 2 dx)
2 rhynos (approach)
2 "hands" stamped aviars
1 RAM

: ) :

175 Champ Whippet
175 Champ Firebird
175 CFR Starfire
175 Champ Orc
175 Champ Beast
174 Z-Predatory
174 Z-Talon
175 Champ Teebird (new)
175 Champ Teebird (beat)
174 Z-XL
175 Champ Valkrie
175 Champ Leopard (new)
170 Champ Leopard (beat)
178 Z-Wasp (new)
178 Z-Wasp (beat)
178 Z-Buzzz flat
173 Z-Buzzz flat
178 Z-Buzzz domey
175 Champ Gator
175 Champ Aviar
175 DX Aviar
174 CT Challenger

174 1st Run Z Flick ( Forehands and Flick rollers )
174 Z Tsunami ( Hyzers and Spikes )
174 Fusion Tsunami ( LONG Hysers and S shots )
174 Beat Fusion Tsunami ( Straight shots and Anhyzers that pan out a little at the end )
174 D Crush ( LONG Anhyzers )
166 Z Wildcat ( Flip shots and rollers )
177 Z Wasp ( Hyzers and Spikes )
178 1st Run Z BUZZZ ( Stable with slight fade at end )
177 X BUZZZ ( Same as above just trying to get it beat in so it will fly STRAIGHT )
174 1st Run Z BUZZZ ( Straight when thrown smooth and turnover when thrown hard )
3 177 D BUZZZs all different stages of BEAT ( Straight with slight fade STRAIGHT and FLIPPY )
1 2nd Run Cam Todd Challenger for putting
1 1st Run Camm Todd for upshots and drives
1 174 Pro D Challenger for upshots ( trying to beat it in for flippy putter drives and upshots )
1 Cryztal Z Challenger ( Drives and upshots )

I think I may have finally found my bag for the season.

I personally carry 18 main disc and up to 6 experimental disc

Main disc

3 <font color="Blue">Teebirds</font> (http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/teebird.html) (11x) (all at different stages 1 new, 1 beat, 1 vary beat in.) I find it helpfull to have my main drivers in this stages for two reasons One I know the disc and two it saves money.
2 <font color="Blue">Leopards</font> (http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/leopard.html) (new Champ) in stages (I find that the leopards are like beat teebirds with out the work so they fit right in.)
2 <font color="Blue">Monsters</font> (http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/championMonster.html) ( this is my get out of sh<font color="black">it </font> disc, they are great for head winds and any type of forehand or tomahawk shot, they're also great for skip shots.)
3 <font color="Blue">Bottom stamped ROC's</font> (http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/roc.html) (in the same stages as my Teebirds with one change the really beat up one is also lighter weight)
1 <font color="Blue">(old CE) spider</font> (http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/championSpider.html) for over-stable short range shots (I know that this disc, is going to finish left)
2 <font color="Blue">Starfires</font> (http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/championStarfire.html) 1 beat and 1 new (this are my consistent distance drivers, since they act like long range teebirds)
1 <font color="Blue">beat Z Wildcat</font> (http://www.discndatonline.com/item.cfm?itemid=7789) (for backhand rollers)
2 <font color="Blue">DX aviars</font> (http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/aviarpna.html) (in stages) (this disc are used for up shots and short drives)
2 <font color="Blue">Identical APX swirls</font> (http://www.discndatonline.com/item.cfm?itemid=7864) ( these disc's have to be the best strait line putters out) (these disc's are only used for putting since they have a tendency to chunk if they hit any thing, and I believe that a putter should be a putter and only a putter)

Experimental disc (any DX or new disc that sound good)

2 <font color="Blue">DX beasts</font> (http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/beast.html) (pure distance and rollers) (they just beat up to fast)
1 <font color="Blue">Tsunami</font> (http://www.discndatonline.com/item.cfm?itemid=32012) (this disc has got to be one of the best disc out at this time) (it has the flight characteristics of a teebird with a harder and flatter finish to the left) (more over stable)
1 new <font color="Blue"> Bottom stamped ROC </font> (http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/roc.html) that has not made it to my main disc yet.

So what's in your bag?

Here's what's in the bag. I would carry fewer discs, but the weight never seems to bother me so why not load it up....
*172 CFR Starfire 2- 1 seasoned, 1 new
172 Pro Starfire
*170 Old ProLine Firebird
166 Old ProLine Firebird
172 Z-Wildcat
*173 CE Eagle
*173 Z-Crush
*172 Z-Flash
168 Champ Orc
*172 Pro Valk
*171 Champ Sidewinder
169 Old ProLine Leopard
*176 Z-Buzzz flat top
176 Z-MRV
179 05 SB Roc
*179 DX Roc
178 10x KC Roc (beat)
*174 Champ Aviar (beat)
174 Champ Aviar (new, and looks like Special Blend/Night shift)
*174 Pro Rhyno

The * discs are the ones that get the most action. Other discs that get occasional guest roles include the
Pro Orc
DX Eagle
E Sabre
Champ Valk
Z-XL

2 Soft Wizards 175
1 X-out 05 Roc 179
1 Z Buzzz 174
1 Cryztal Z Buzzz 174
1 Z Glide 173
1 Z Wasp 170
1 Champ Sidewinder (star) 168
1 Z Flash 173
1 Champ Orc 172
1 Pro Starfire 172
1 CFR Starfire 170
2 Tsunamis 168/174
1 Firebird 175

4 Orcs (2 Champs 171, 1 Pro 174, 1 DX 166)
1 Beast 168 (Champ)
1 11x T-bird 171 (Champ)
1 Tsunami 174
1 Sidewinder 171 First-Run
1 Roc 179 (DX)
1 Z MRV 174
1 Viking 170 (DX)
1 Z Crush 171
2 Firebirds (1 Champ 168, 1 DX 172)
1 Monster 172 (Champ)
1 ArchAngel 166 (DX)
2 Magnets 168 (Pro-D)

1-2 firebirds
3 orcs
3-4 SE leopards
3-4 Rocs (KC and DX)
Aviars (10x, p&a, classic's)

Currently carrying:

2 dx Orc
1 opaque QJLS
1 dx Roc
1 150 dx Firebird
2 CE Firebirds
1 glow Eagle (beat for BH rollers)
2 Rubber Putter

I'm VERY close to dropping down to 3 molds ... Orcs, Firebirds, and Rubber Putter (the old ones), with one original blue QJLS mixed in. I always score better when I decide to carry 3 discs for a round instead of my full bag.

im carrying

2 dx beasts
1 Pro starfire. ( about to add a champ in this weekend)
1 champ viking
1 z-predator
1 teebird
1 teebird-L
3 rocs ( 1 kc, 2 dx)
1 classic roc
1 z- wasp
1 cryZtal challenger
1 star stampd glo avair. (main putter, want more)
1 aviar p&amp;a

175 Pro Orc
170 Champ Orc
160 Champ Orc
175 Pro Starfire
168 SE Leopard
175 10x Teebird
171 Z Xpress?
168 1st Run Z Predator
175 S Element
177 Z Buzzz
175 E Element X
174 Swirl Apx
174 Black Soft Challenger
174 Pro D Challenger

You need to update your bio then. :D Are you sure you don't have anymore Swirls? :D:D:p

4 Spirits
4 Illusions
1 Retooled Speed Demon
1 Sabre
1 Blaze
1 Demon
2 ElementXs
1 Element
5 Wizards

Two years ago I was throwing all Innova, and slowly I've been picking up more and more Discraft. In two more years I might be throwing all Discraft, besides ROCs.

1 D challenger
1 20th aniv. Aviar
4 Rocs (05 CE blend, 03 CE, KC Pro, Beatup Rancho BB)
1 CFR Shark
2 CFR Orcs (167 & 175)
1 CE leapard
1 D Crush
1 Tsunami
1 150 Flick

175g Soft Wizard (putting only)
175g Qmega (Drives, approaches, finesse putts)

175g Champion Gator (forehand, short hyzers, S approaches)
180g Champion Shark (hyzers, S shots)
178g Z Storm (Straight/slow hyzer/anhyzer shots)

175g Champion Teebird (tight distance drives)
173g Champion Sidewinder (turnovers, rollers, magic tricks)
173g Z Flash (Max D)
175g Champion Orc (workhorse distance driver)
175g Fusion Tsunami (forehand D, hyzer distance)
174g Z Flick (wind beater, thumbers)
173g Champion Firebird (spikes, hard hyzers, thumbers)

You need to update your bio then. :D Are you sure you don't have anymore Swirls? :D:D:p


I still have 2... they're mine.. :D

the 2 I'm sending to you were back ups...

174 H Speed Demon....hyzers, wind, forehand
166 Pro Orc................distance, hyzer finish
172 DX Beast..............distance annie finish
172 Champ TeeBird.....control hyzer
172 Glo TeeBird..........control, straight as a f'n arrow
170 DX TeeBird...........control, annies
170 X-Wasp................hyzers
178 Z-Buzz (1st run)....straight
??? D Hawk...............annies
2 glo Aviars (one is a little grippier, more overstable and softer than the other) I need to buy a stack and a basket soon.

My wasp and Buzz actually throw about the same. I'm considering a more overstable mid. I'm very happy w/ my driver setup at the moment.

2 KC Pro Eagles (175, 175)
2 Eagles (175 champ, 169 champ x-out)
4 Orcs (175 dx, 170dx, 175 champ, 171 champ x-out)
3 Beasts (166 dx, 172 dx, 175 Pro)
1 Firebird (175 dx)
5 Rocs (178 glo, 178 super, 180 dx, 174 dx, 179 soft kc)
1 10x Aviar (175)
1 Wizard (171 Firm)
1 Classic Aviar (175)
1 JK Proto Aviar (175)

You need to update your bio then. :D Are you sure you don't have anymore Swirls? :D:D:p


I still have 2... they're mine.. :D

the 2 I'm sending to you were back ups...





Uh....huh. I see how you are. :DWell, i found a box of 5 more in my closet last night, so i have 10 brand new ones or so (not counting your 2 backups.) I've sent numerous emails out and shouldn't have a problem picking up 10 or 15 more. :p :p :p

The soft apx's will feel exactly the same as the swirls, they will just be a solid color rather than 2 or 3 colors swirled together. Soft_APX_ilicious (http://www.Discraft.com) just doesn't sound as good as Swirlicious! (http://www.discraft.com)

:D

4 Spirits
4 Illusions
<font color="red">1 Retooled Speed Demon </font>
1 Sabre
1 Blaze
1 Demon
2 ElementXs
1 Element
5 Wizards



What's a Retooled Speed Demon, and what's the difference between it and a regular speed demon?

Supposed to be straight out of the box :eek:
Want one badly...

Supposed to be straight out of the box :eek:
Want one badly...



Light weights are pretty straight, but heavy ones are still overstable. Difference is the overstability is more practical...I can get the new ones to about 300' before they hyzer whereas the old ones hyzered on me not more than 200' off the tee. They are just a bit longer now. And they are MONEY in the wind....dead straight in a moderate headwind.

I am a beginner meaning I have played one full round.. Then I have played a few holes .. This is what I have..

1 Valky
1 Viking
1 Banshee
1 Cobra
1 Shark
1 Dx Stingray
1 Leopard
1 avitar

All championship plastic except for the stingray..

Lost_disc
Congratulations on your first post and welcome to the PDGA discussion board.

I just wanted to say to make sure that learning with all champion plastic doesn't Teach you to throw the wrong way. It's best to learn with DX plastic.. It truly is and learning to use it for a while too. I started with some beat up cyclones, but quickly moved to champion/z plastic. I wish i stayed with old beat up stuff becuase after 2 years i'm starting to relearn my throw to be able to throw less stable stuff..

Good luck and any help feel free to message me.

-Scott LEwis

and if you don't want to go out and buy a bunch of dx plastic, i would recommend learning to play with ONLY the leopard, aviar and cobra. then you can start incorporating other discs once you have these mastered. but the most important thing, by far, is learning how to putt!! do that now and save yourself hours upon hours of agony later. :o

My casual round set-up is...

1 Champ TeeBird
1 Champ Orc
1 Champ Firebird
1 Champ Monster
1 D XL
1 X Buzzz
1 Crystal Challenger
1 D Challenger

My tournament round set-up is...

1 Champ TeeBird
1 Champ Orc
1 Champ Firebird
1 Champ Monster
1 D XL
1 X Buzzz
1 Crystal Challenger
1 D Challenger

It looks like a lot of you guys should slim down /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

It looks like a lot of you guys should slim down /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



Hey, at 6ft tall and 190lbs I would say I am pretty slim. :mad:

Plus my bag has gone down from 25 to 22 discs. And the molds will go down too as soon as I am through throwing and beating up all the Rocs and Teebirds I own. Switching to Talon's/XL's Wasp's/Buzzz's.

175 E Spiritx2
172 E Spirit
175 CE Blaze
175 E Blaze
170 CFR Tl's x3
173 S Demon
180x2 E Element
175 Med. Wizard x 2
175 E Wizard

*Thinking about taking out my tl's for E blazes, they fly the same except the blaze is slightly shorter and fades to the left. The tl just goes dead straight no fade.*

Bag updated.
175g Pro Aviar
174g Super Roc
180g SB Roc
174g DX Viking
174g DX Orc x 2 Each
167g Pro Starfire
173g Pro Starfire
160g Champion Sidewinder

3 Beasts (175, 172 Champion, 175 Pro)
3 Monsters (175, 166 Champion, 172 Old Pro Line)
3 Orcs (175, 172 Champion, 172 Pro(New, I replace every 2 weeks or so)
3 Firebirds (172 CE FX, 164 CE FL, 169 Old Pro LIne)
4 Rocs (all 180, 05 X-out, 05 SB, 11X KC, 04 Glow)
1 Gator (172, Mid range Monster)
2 JK Aviar X (Floppy 175 Yellow and White)
I used to throw 12 different drivers in the bag, now just 4 different ones, it has lowered my scores by at least 4 strokes a round.

I forgot about my Sidewinder, but I rarely throw it.

2 first run Flash ( purple )
3 buzzz 1 Blue D , 1 Z blue , 1 X white
2 Xpress two X yellow
1 storm Gray 1st run
1 venom
3 Magnets two hard one soft (max)
2 Pred 1X 1Z
1 wildcat X

2- CE eagles, 1- Champ eagle, 2- CE Teebird T's, 1- Champ Starfire, 2- Champ Sidewinders 172, 175, 3- Old Proline Monsters, 1- QJLS, 2- Champ Orcs 160, 172, 1- Champ Shark, 1- Champ Stingray, 1- QMS, 1- Q Mega, 1- 4X JK Aviar-X

Z xtreme
CE FX Firebird
Tsunami blue sparkle
Tsunami red proline
Z Flash
CE Leopard
Pro Orc
SE Valk
DX Roc
SE Rhyno

Hey snoop,
didnt you used to throw a bucket full of firechickens?
did the Tsunami take care of the FL spots? I still like my FL's but have found the new 2nd run CFR SF might fill that spot (cant wait to try it in real heavy headwind, tho). GOT to try that Tsunami. Whats with the blue sparkles? Lotsa hype there.

3 Valkyries(2nd run CE, 2 JK Pros)
Z-Flash
Pro Starfire
Champ Sidewinder
1st run Blueberry CE leopard
Z-wasp
Super Roc
2 aviar-x(3X, 4X)

2 E Spirit
1 H Illusion
2 Sabres (1 E, 1 S)
1 S Demon
3 E Elements
4 Wizards (3 S, 1 E)

discs i think

Champ Firebird
CE (1st run) Eagle
Champ Teebird
CE Teebird (NICE!)
CE Teebird (slightly beat)
CE Valk (Long turns)
CE Valk (BEAT!!)
2001 Roc (Never leaves the bag)
2005 Glow Roc
SB Roc
DX Roc (Ching stamped)
DX roc
10X aviar
CE aviar
DX putter
11X KC roc

2 rhynos

stratus
2 spiders
demon

champ leopard
2 dx beasts
tsunami
z-pred

I am going to show you what I normally played last year and thus far this year. I am planning on buying a lot and doing a lot of experimenting coming up, so this will change. Updates to come.

TeeBirds- I have tried a lot of different families of drivers, and I have found these types of drivers to be the most forgiving and consistant. The new, faster drivers are better on the really long holes, but most holes are TeeBird or Midrange drivable, so I favor it.

Rocs- I carry a lighter one that flips and glides a lot, a worn out one, and a stabler KC. This is my most used disc, aside from putters. I use them for the midrange-drivable holes and any really high-risk tight fairway.

Soft Mangets- I used to be a big bead Aviar person, but I really like 2 things about these magnets. Firstly, they are really grippy and everything of reasonable length but not in the 100% range is spitting out less. Secondly, the softness and grip allows for a lot of torque and the longer putts seem more effortless. The one problem with them is that they are uncomfortable in the 200', so I am thinking about adding a D magnet. I am not a huge wizard fan.

Leopard, etc- I like to have a disc that flies perfect when you throw it lighter, so that the more tedious driver holes can be tackled.

New Generation Driver (I've used Beast, Crush, etc)- For the holes where power and speed are the best attributes to have. North Valley has a ton of these.

It looks like a lot of you guys should slim down /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



Hey, at 6ft tall and 190lbs I would say I am pretty slim. :mad:

Plus my bag has gone down from 25 to 22 discs. And the molds will go down too as soon as I am through throwing and beating up all the Rocs and Teebirds I own. Switching to Talon's/XL's Wasp's/Buzzz's.



Wow you really slimmed down...25 to 22 discs

Throwing fewer molds is something that cannot be over-emphasized. If you know one throw/disc, it is a lot tougher to adjust to an unusual condition and when newer discs come out, it is tougher to learn. Make sure you have enough variety to hyzer, anhyzer, and throw straight and low at the key distances, as well as play during the wind. From there, get everything perfected and then add/replace your plastic if you notice a problem area, a newer/better disc, or a situation your arsenal cannot properly address... being sure that you allow lots of field time before the adjustments come into effect.

Wow someone who understands that disc golf is about having a shot for every situation, not a disc for every situation...Empty your bags you packrats /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Exactly. I am a leftie and I was forced to learn a long-distance anhyzer right from the get go. That made me work on perfecting release angles and nose angles. Most good players can pick up a disc, throw it, see where it lands, and know exaclty what adjustments need to be made to produce every possible good throw out of it. If you aren't this aquainted to the physics of a disc, I suggest throwing rounds with like 1 roc, eagle, and aviar. I am willing to bet that in 3 rounds, your driving and upshots will be much more consistant and versitile. Id start basic and add vs doing it the other way. Dont go from 23 to 20. Go from 23 to 3-4 then to 5,6,7 etc. That will also help you show what discs are useless mass in your bag.

Ya heard? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

1st run orc
2 beasts
sidewinder
champion firebird
CE FX,
2 glo leopards
3 180 glo rocs
SM shark
2 175g 11x kc aviars

If you watch the pdga tour 03', worlds 03', and worlds 04, barry throws the same beat up beast on almost every hole. Its pretty funny to see that he has like 2 discs he uses heavily, and a couple specialty's.

Drivers from under to over (all between 165-170):
QJLS 1st run
Champion Viking
11x Teebird
11x Teebird
CE Eagle
CE Eagle (for overhand shots; 164g)
Pro Firebird (pre Champion plastic)
Pro Firebird (pre Champion plastic; 175g for FH rollers)
Champion WhippetX

Midranges from under to over:
Champion Panther
CE Spider
CE Spider
X-out KC Roc

Putters:
Soft Challenger
UV Soft Challenger
UV Soft Challenger
CryZtal Challenger


The Viking and Whippet are on the way out I think & I've started testing a Pro Starfire. So 17 discs--12 if I cut out the duplicates, although I like having some duplicates because it allows me to throw roller and overhands without quickly beating up their flying counterparts.

The return of Disc Golf's ultimate packrat.

Current bag setup has pretty much stabilized and is currently setup for my home course of La Mirada, CA (long, grassy, hilly, w/enough trees to give trouble but not make it too technical).

All Innova.

Putter pocket:

175g Omega Supersoft red (for all putts inside 60')
175g Omega Supergrip white (for most putts & upshots over 60')
170g '00 Classic Roc white, Ching-stamped, flat-topped, beat to hell (anytime I need finesse within 200' of basket or shorter, late turnovers.) "Whitey"

Bag organized into 5 speed ranges from slowest to fastest then in decreasing stability within each speed range.

180g '04 CE Roc Glow (overstable midrange) "Ken & Barry"
175g '05 Super Roc green, design one stamp, light use (stable midrange)
177g 10x KC Pro Roc white, tuned (does the tuned-Roc-thang) "10x"
174g '02 CFR Classic Roc white (short stable drives or any time I need to "stand & deliver")
175g Champ Whippet "X" clear orange, circle stamp (max overstability needed & sidearm) "The Hubcap"
172g 11x KC Pro (pro/champ mix) Gazelle opaque pink (stable 'tweener drives)
164g 11x KC Pro (pro/champ mix) Gazelle translucent blue (less-stable 'tweener drives)
171g Champ Panther opaque Pink (understable 'tweener stuff) "The Inspector"
175g Champ Banshee pearlescent yelllow (sidearm and useable overstability King)
175g CFR Teebird-L Glow, offset mini-stamp (bread 'n' butter slightly overstable drives) "Little Wing"
175g Pro Teebird-L white, light use (dead stable w/natural finish, no early trees)
169g Champ Teebird-L pearlescent red, X-out (holds the line, durable)
170g Pro Teebird-L orange (little turn and no fade, not around early trees) "Creamsicle"
169g SE Leopard white, bar stamp (good turn and hold)
161g Champ Leopard clear blue, stiff, X-out (big turn, even downwind)
150g Champ Leopard clear red, gummy (tunnel shots, flat-footed fairway shots) "It's my Girlfriend's"
167g Champ Firebird clear purple (won't turn at all, abnormally overstable for this weight; very flat-topped)
172g Pro Firebird blue, wish they put the "roasted chicken" stamp on these (will turn just a tad, but breaks back harder than the one above)
166g Champ Viking pearly yellow (TL on 'roids)
160g Champ Viking pearly purple (Leopard on 'roids)
155g Champ Viking clear yellow X-out (If I *had* to pick one driver) "Secret Weapon"
166g Proto DX Archangel orange, bar stamp (tailwind King or whenever late, long glide is needed)
175g Champ Orc pearlescent red, X-out (headwinds (inc. Max D), hyzers, sidearms, sidearm rollers)
172g Pro Starfire yellow (Max D, when a Teebird dreams....; newest disc, thought it was all hype)
165g Pro Beast White (Max D with a turn)
171g Champ Sidewinder clear orange, mini star stamp (downwind Max D, big turnovers, backhand rollers)

29 discs from 16 molds. Possibly more prohibitive than enabling to do it this way, but I love having the options. Could easily drop 8 or so discs and not miss them too much. Peeked in some Pro bags at the Golden State Classic this year. 10-20 discs from about 5-10 molds was the norm.

Less 1 172 champ viking, 2 z crushes and a pro starfire after this mornings round at Berkeley

"169g Champ Teebird-L pearlescent red, X-out (holds the line, durable)"

From what i'm aware of there is no such thing as a Champion Teebird L.. The only Teebirds that are made in production in Champion and the old proline stamp(original candy) is the Teebird TB or T(same thing).
TL's are only made in the newer pro plastic or in CE/CFR plastic.

YOu might be thinking of the Initials for California on the bottom of the disc. This actually means nothing as to whether it's a TL or not. The TL and TB both have the CAL for california on the bottom.
Only the original 11x Proline Teebird MOLD(original champion) is the one with the CA for california(i did hear some of the newer champion is made of that mold now too which is sweet.)

just wanted to add that in.
-Scott Lewis

Scott - Firstly, you're right, Innova didn't officially make a Champion TL run(s) as far as I know. Secondly, discounting plastic composition, it is most definitely a TL. It was marked as "TL" from the factory, and more importantly, it has *exactly* the same profile as my all of my Pro TLs, my CFR Glow TL, and my first run CE TL. No idea what the "CA" and "CAL" markings are that you mentioned; I have never seen them on any disc, let alone this one.

As for the plastic, it is an opaque, slightly pearlescent red. It is reminiscent of some of the first run Champion (not Pro, Proline, CFR, or CE) Orcs, Beasts, etc that I have. It *is* an X-out, so maybe this was a "failed" attempt at a CFR TL; the plastic is *that* nice (w/very minor cosmetic defects). My seller, who is only one of two vendors on the West Coast still allowed to go into the warehouse and pick out his store's stock personally, usually comes back with a lot of one-offs and oddballs in addition to all the normal stock, so, I guess I got lucky.

Now if I can only get my hands on one of those 122g purple/blue-metal-flaked-"premium"-plastic Cheetah-stamped Beasts that I passed up on........(not joking).

29 discs from 16 molds. Possibly more prohibitive than enabling to do it this way, but I love having the options.



There now no one can say smack to me about my bag. I am down to 22 discs and 14 molds. And a few of those molds are on their way out of my bag.

4 Flashes (169g-172g)
3 Buzzes (177+)
2 Big Bead Aviars (175g)
1 Pro Aviar (175g)