I am pleased to announce some details as they stand for the next addition of the North Texas Series.

The first event is already out of the way, it was Veterans Park Open. I am personally very pleased to see the ADGA on a serious bounce back.

Upcoming events include:

Crowley on Saturday Dec 1. This will be a 40 hole PDGA C-tier 1 day event. The Ace Pot is in the neighborhood of $1200 before registration even starts for this event. The players meeting will be at 9 AM. Reg will be cut off at 8:30am. Daylight will be an issue at this event so please use Title Disc to pre-register.

Poison Ivy Open (if everyone can behave long enough for that course to not get pulled) Jan 5-6. It will be a 1 day C-tier. Rec and Advanced play on Saturday, with INT and all Open Divisions playing on Sunday. This will allow you to test the waters of the next division up (not Down) at this event. It will be a 42 hole event (2 rounds of 21). Players Meeting will be at 9am both days.

The Big Show
The Big Show at Cedar Hill will open the week again this year. Are you ready for this.....it will be the week after the Stupid Bowl. Feb 9-10 A 72 hole PDGA B-tier event.

Hockey Game on Monday night Feb 11. More details later.

Mid-Week Wednesday Feb 13 Course TBA

Z Boaz Open Feb 16-17. This will be a PDGA A Tier. I am working on formats that will include the course on the North Side of the tracks. However this is where this plan will succeed or fail, it will require everyone to be signed up on Friday or before. It will also require us to get under way at 8 am (not have a meeting at 8 am, start at 8am). Before you scream at both of these prospects it will allow all Open and Advanced players to play 2 rounds of the Original Z Boaz. Unfortunately it will also require all Rec and Intermediate players to play 2 rounds on the temp. This plan will also allow for the number of players that played this year with no ghost cards, but it will take a commitment from YOU as well.

The Z Boaz Format Skins Match will follow on Sunday Afternoon.

This is all that I have firmed up at this point. There will more events, the dates just haven't been confirmed yet.

They include:
A one Day event at Arcadia Park in Ft Worth
Paul Giles Memorial
A to Z Doubles
Rock Wall

And Maybe:
Match Play (single elimination two divisions Am or Pro)
Pecan Park Open
Waco

Many more details will follow.

There are alot of ace runs at the Crowley course. With the ace pot being over $1200.00, this event should fill. Sign up now!!!!

Hey Mace -- Thanks for getting the schedule posted here! I'm looking forward to some great events this year. I was just curious if you have an estimate as far as when the C-Tier status of the Dec 1st Crowley tournament will be official.
Thanks,
Heidi

Online registration for this event (and upcoming NTS events) will be available on titledisc.com this evening.

i thought the new ratings brackets would be in effect after jan 1? how does that affect the adv/int on different days?

i just read that the expert division thing is not happening...hadnt heard that...i guess my question is moot.

Where did you read that? I must have missed something :(

The ratings breaks are still shifting upward but the division names remain the same with the new division being Novice added at the bottom.

The ratings breaks are still shifting upward but the division names remain the same with the new division being Novice added at the bottom.



a new division called novice below rec? that seems redundant
what are the new ratings breaks?

Got approval via email and paid the fee yesterday.

The ratings breaks are still shifting upward but the division names remain the same with the new division being Novice added at the bottom.



a new division called novice below rec? that seems redundant
what are the new ratings breaks?



Table of 2008 Player Divisions, Ratings & Point Factors (http://www.pdga.com/documents/2008/08PlayerDivisionsGrid.pdf)

wow, so i've worked my way up to advanced to get put back in int, great :confused:

The people running the pdga are idiots.

Why would you make another ratings division?

If you tell people they have to play int or adv how come there is not a point where you have to play open?

This sport is never going to go anywhere with 8+ divisions. The only ones you need are Int, Adv, Pro, and Masters.

If you tell people they have to play int or adv how come there is not a point where you have to play open?




There is. For ratings based events it's 970.

still doesnt change the fact that recreational and novice sound like the exact same thing, i think novice even sounds more advanced than recreational, what happened to the expert division? you wouldnt even need that if you just made everybody with a 970 or above play pro, not as a suggestion but mandatory.

I could not care less what you call the division I play in, I just don't want to play the short boxes. I want to play what the Open guys are playing.
Mace, in 2008 what would you have the new intermediate division play?

still doesnt change the fact that recreational and novice sound like the exact same thing, i think novice even sounds more advanced than recreational, what happened to the expert division? you wouldnt even need that if you just made everybody with a 970 or above play pro, not as a suggestion but mandatory.



It is mandatory for ratings events.

Al's Cuckwagon BBQ will be catering the NTS event #2 in Crowley. It will be $5.00 a plate.

Rumor has it.......

still doesnt change the fact that recreational and novice sound like the exact same thing, i think novice even sounds more advanced than recreational, what happened to the expert division? you wouldnt even need that if you just made everybody with a 970 or above play pro, not as a suggestion but mandatory.



It is mandatory for ratings events.



It is only mandatory if you have previously accepted cash as a pro.

what happened to the expert division? you wouldnt even need that if you just made everybody with a 970 or above play pro, not as a suggestion but mandatory.



It is mandatory for ratings events.



It is only mandatory if you have previously accepted cash as a pro.



Agreed for regular events. Not so for "ratings events."

Mace, will the North Texas Series be holding any "ratings based events" this season?

I had not considered it. I will think it over.

In answer to Giles, since you will only get one chance at The Mighty Z in the Rec and Int Divisions you will play Z Boaz from the long tee's.

One week from today another BIG ACE POT will be on the line.....

There are alot of ace runs out at Crowley. This should be an easy one day event that you won't want to miss.

Sign up NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will be my first Tournament.

I just signed up to donate to MA1 :D

Will there be doubles on Friday?

sure come on down...

still doesnt change the fact that recreational and novice sound like the exact same thing, i think novice even sounds more advanced than recreational, what happened to the expert division? you wouldnt even need that if you just made everybody with a 970 or above play pro, not as a suggestion but mandatory.



It is mandatory for ratings events.



It is only mandatory if you have previously accepted cash as a pro.



It just makes no sence that you are forced to move up in each division except Adv. This just lets people like Coda and Matt Hall win 18 straight events when they should be playing open and cashing.

Player's list :D

it's primitive, but here's what titleDISC has taken so far (does not include entries sent through any other method):

http://www.titledisc.com/Events/NTS2-prereg.html

the seabolts are the only other one I know about so far!

players list

already posted above for everyone who has signed up online so far

That is the list. There is a hand full of people that have said they would pay on Friday. I sincerely hope that i am not wasting my time and effort running this event.

I mean there is only a $1250+ ace pot up for grabs, no reason to get signed up or anything.

Nothing to get excited about.

In fact never mind it is all off. I have better things to do that wait and wonder if you are going to come out and have some fun. We will just wait until PIO to run at that ace how's that!!

Sweet!
Don't have to worry about somebody taking it down at Crowley. Their baskets would prob just spit the ace anyways. :o

That is the list. There is a hand full of people that have said they would pay on Friday. I sincerely hope that i am not wasting my time and effort running this event.

I mean there is only a $1250+ ace pot up for grabs, no reason to get signed up or anything.

Nothing to get excited about.

In fact never mind it is all off. I have better things to do that wait and wonder if you are going to come out and have some fun. We will just wait until PIO to run at that ace how's that!!



So what is it? On or off? If it is on, what are the times, if not then my son and I won't waste our time coming down to Crowley to play and have a good time. For us, it is not about the money, it is all about the people and fun!! :cool:

Wow! I don't get it.

There are less than 10 people preregistered for this ONE DAY, 40 hole, pdga C-TIER tournament on one of DFW's BEST disc golf courses, with a $1250.00 starting ace pot!!!!!

I picked up a little sarcasm and a lot of disappointment in Macey's post. Of course it is still on!

I am one of the people he mentioned that hasn't committed yet, but I've been jumping through hoops to make sure i'm there. Sadly, yesterday my wife informed me that my son's school parade is Saturday in the early evening. I don't know if i'm going to be able to jump through that hoop. :confused:

Consider yourself fortunate and lucky if you can attend the event, and understand the jealousy that other people have that would love to be there.

$1250 ace pot before entries even begin!!!!

I haven't signed up yet, but I'm going to be there bright and early Saturday morning, so please don't cancel...its a long drive :D

dont worry john, if you dont make it saturday, ill buy you a beer with the ace pot money i'm gonna take down :D

I rescheduled my family pictures so i could play :DI cant wait, this is one of my favorite course in Texas!

dont worry john, if you dont make it saturday, ill buy you a beer with the ace pot money i'm gonna take down :D



I'll give you a bag full of discs if you hit the ace pot. That's how confident i am about getting "that" beer from you. :eek: :D

I rescheduled my family pictures so i could play :DI cant wait, this is one of my favorite course in Texas!



Much like my sister not rescheduling her wedding so that i could play in my 13th straight VPO, i don't think Little_Hero's school is going to let me postpone the parade.

Deidre and I will be there as well. I'll generate a new signup list today. Rusty, Teague, Tom, et. al... go get signed up on titleDISC so that you make the list and Mace doesn't freak out and cancel :)

I'll be there. I have been doing alot of traveling lately and have not been able to slow down long enough to sign up. I will sign up by friday the latest.

I'm sure more people are out there that are playing.

"By the way - I'm due another Mace Man Ace Pot - It's all mine."

Come on people - DON'T BE A WUSS !! :o:DStep up and have some fun. :D

i dont think the acepot should matter that much, it would be great to hit a big one, but i would be there if it was a 100$, just like i show up to the minis when the ace is 5$.

I went ahead and updated the list since a few more entries came in:

http://www.titledisc.com/Events/NTS2-prereg.html

Registration will be open on titleDISC until Friday night unless we get a huge wave of signups today and tomorrow.

Mace, I WILL be there for sure. Just going to pay you in person this time. Non of this, "if I can get out of something or jump through a hoop the size of a tennisball :eek:, I will be there for sure.

I'm going by the Macester's tonight to pay. Looking like MM1 is the biggest division at this point.
I'm giving up watching the SEC Championship live on Saturday(the DVR is already set). <font color="orange">The Vols play their best this year when nobody gives them any shot at winning. </font> I haven't played Crowley since the original 9 holes. This should be interesting.

Just signed up on TitleDisc...lets do this!!!

Non of this, "if I can get out of something or jump through a hoop the size of a tennisball.



Miles, You'll soon see that the hoop is much smaller than a tennis ball. :eek: :p

I am sure it is. I am just going to live it while my hoop is the size of Jeff Davis! :D

Just signed up. First tourney in TX for me. Anybody have a layout of this course or hole descriptions.? I will be playing it blind this weekend.

I am sure it is. I am just going to live it while my hoop is the size of Jeff Davis! :D



LMAO! Thanks for the giggles.

Just signed up. First tourney in TX for me. Anybody have a layout of this course or hole descriptions.? I will be playing it blind this weekend.



A course guide is available here (http://www.funkytownflyers.org/maps/crowley/Bicentennial%20Park%20-%20Guide.pdf).

Thanks. Which tees are we playing or has that been decided yet?

Some pix here! (http://www.pbase.com/shabookie/crowley_course)

That is the list. There is a hand full of people that have said they would pay on Friday. I sincerely hope that i am not wasting my time and effort running this event.

I mean there is only a $1250+ ace pot up for grabs, no reason to get signed up or anything.

Nothing to get excited about.

In fact never mind it is all off. I have better things to do that wait and wonder if you are going to come out and have some fun. We will just wait until PIO to run at that ace how's that!!



So Brian, I'll ask again. Is the ace pot off or on? What tees are being played? We don't want to waste our time either. I know it is frustrating for a TD to have no pre-registration, I've been there. So please let us know as much info as possible so we can make a decision to come down or not. It is only a 3 hour drive each way for us.

Thanks for what you do. :cool:

I went ahead and updated the list since a few more entries came in:

http://www.titledisc.com/Events/NTS2-prereg.html

Registration will be open on titleDISC until Friday night unless we get a huge wave of signups today and tomorrow.



updated again with a few more. rock n roll

I love STFU Truck shawn and the pics are always great! :D

i hear that there is going to be some doubles going on friday
so.........me and pancake are going to be killing all of yall in doubles friday

so.......come on out if you want a beating

Team Phili-Bookie will go ahead and take your plastic now.... Its cool for you to embrace a whoopin or just stay at home and sippy on some hot cocoa. How is that for a plethora of conundrums?

That team should be nothing we will beat yall by 5 strokes

Ok you talked me into it. I will take my chances that I may be wasting my time so you can have fun and win stuff.

The ace is on and we will be meeting at 9am to play some golf.

Doubles is at 3pm on Friday.

I don't want to come off wrong here, but here it goes. I have spent plenty of time in the last 10+ years being at your mercy. And being at your mercy has not worked out very well overall. You are fickle and not very nice an unfair amount of the time. So I have taken the steps to make sure that I am taken care of with you or without you.

If only a hand full of you are going to come out to an event why should I put in time, effort, and money if you might come out? If you are coming out then sign up now if you are capable, if not get there tomorrow afternoon, and if you have to push it to Saturday you better be there before 8:30 am. If you get there after that I will let that guy that wanted to cancel this poorly pre-registered event out of the van and turn him loose on you. :)

Did you get any of my emails or PMs about that $90 of merch you still owe me from VPO?

if you have to push it to Saturday you better be there before 8:30 am. If you get there after that I will let that guy that wanted to cancel this poorly pre-registered event out of the van and turn him loose on you.



You could always reimplement the $5 late fee for those who push it to Saturday morning. It seems fair to me.

I will let that guy that wanted to cancel this poorly pre-registered event out of the van and turn him loose on you. :)


Please tell me you're not talking about Jeff Davis :D

$5 late fee sounds more than fair to me. Imagine how much smoother all events would go if everyone pre-registered...

Everyone will play 1 round from the whites and 1 round from the reds.

Team Phili-Bookie will go ahead and take your plastic now.... Its cool for you to embrace a whoopin or just stay at home and sippy on some hot cocoa. How is that for a plethora of conundrums?



me and cheatinlefty have already decided on the plastic we will be getting once we win doubles, so you better embrace your partner, your going to need a good hug :o

http://www.pixnpages.com/images/event_photo/frisbee_dog_1710.jpg My dog has your discs now. He is flying back to the town of broken dreams on his way thru to the island of misfit toys to drop off your discs. Hop on board lefty..
:)

lol ^^^^

i fill sorry you ever has Shabookie in doubles because if yall were playing worst shot yall will be taking his throw every time


i love this smack talking

http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Watch%20Out%20for%20Tree.jpg

watch out!!!

http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Theeyes.jpg

keep your eyes open!!

lol

http://www.titledisc.com/Events/NTS2-prereg.html


Updated again. 20 pre-registered so far and they're still coming in.

Thought I was going to miss this, but as it turns out, i'm going to get to play. I'm really looking forward to playing a tournament on my home course :)

it's almost time for shabookie and bucky to lose at doubles :o/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

http://occom.no-ip.biz/random/05_36_03-flapjacks.jpg :cool:

Too bad its Phillip and I taking u on.... Not the Walker Texas Bucky.

Learning your competition is the first key point of a victory.

And therefore those skilled in war bring the enemy to the field of battle and are not brought there by him.

We built a golden bridge for you to retreat across it.

Just signed up.
:cool::o
How 'Bout them Cowboys!!!!! :D

Too bad its Phillip and I taking u on.... Not the Walker Texas Bucky.

Learning your competition is the first key point of a victory.

And therefore those skilled in war bring the enemy to the field of battle and are not brought there by him.

We built a golden bridge for you to retreat across it.



suck it sun tzu!!

Listen here Flapjack. Get off my wise friend....

YEah, i hear ya man. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

As Miles said to me on the phone...."The tennis ball sized hoop just got a little bit bigger."

Fingers crossed.

Parade postponed due to rain :D

http://www.titledisc.com/Events/NTS2-prereg.html


Updated again. 20 pre-registered so far and they're still coming in.


Online pre-reg list is up to 24. Starting to look like a pretty dern good turnout for this little 1-day C-tier!

updated again and closed entries. see you guys in the morn

WOW!!!! 18 players in the open division. Nolan Grider takes the win shooting -7 for the day. He was the only person to shoot under par for the day.

No one hit the ace so it should start at around $1550.00 at the Poison Ivy open at Bear Creek.

Nolan Grider
Mike Grider
Miles Seaborn
Top 3 Open players

Thats sweet, but it really sucks how open players wait until the day of to sign up. Nice showing Mr Seaborn /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

The second round it was! Boooo on the first round.

Super boo poo on the 2nd round for me...

Heya, anyone pick up a taylor made umbrella?
I walked the course early this morning and didnt find it...

6 Months Playing Disc Golf

1st Tournament Ever

Paring First Hole

Finishing Dead Last

Priceless

I will be Back

WOW!!!! 18 players in the open division. Nolan Grider takes the win shooting -7 for the day. He was the only person to shoot under par for the day.

No one hit the ace so it should start at around $1550.00 at the Poison Ivy open at Bear Creek.

Nolan Grider
Mike Grider
Miles Seaborn
Top 3 Open players




How did everyone else do ?
Scores ?
Anyone ?

Thanks Mace for a great time :DI really appreciate you throwing the one day tourneys. Thank you Crowley I had a great time and the coourse was the best its ever played and looked great as well :D

After a long conversation with Mace, the final results of the Open division has changed from:

Nolan
Mike
Miles
Joe and <font color="red">John </font>
Santos
Pepper


to:

Nolan
Mike
Miles
Joe
Santos
<font color="red"> John </font> and Pepper


During the 1st round on hole #18 my drive skipped OB. Initially, i threw from where my lie went OB before a player from a different division was walking by and told us about the drop zone. So i went over to the drop zone and finished the hole from there. My card and i discussed what happened and we put several astericks on my scorecard as a reminder to discuss what happened with the TD so that the correct score was turned in. A couple of distractions later(phone call from crying wife, rushed for food, etc), none of us talked to the TD and my card was turned in with the incorrect score. So, two days later, i was stroked once for the "practice throw" and two more times for turning in an incorrect scorecard. (3 strokes total)

For more than 15 years i've played this game with the utmost integrity and as professional as i know to be. During that time I've also counted every throw, and every penalty that has come my way. I wanted to make sure that i continued to do so, which is why i called Mace and told him everything that happened after reading the ruling.

Cheers,
John

good man.

John, if you would have been listening when the course rules were explained, then there wouldn't be a question.

Sorry for the delay. I didn't get the code to post the scores until now. Here they are! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7360#Open)

It wasn't just the open players that waited.

Thanks for all of the good words. I think that was the coldest I have ever been when the temp was in the upper 60's. BURRRRRRRRR!

The ace pot rolls on to PIO.

Have great Holidays!!

thanks Macey. john we would expect nothing less of a man of your integrity. way to do the right thing..


Way to go McGough 2nd place. nice..

Pro's don't listen at players meetings. In fact it was a feat that he was even at the meeting at all. :)

No one hit the ace so it should start at around $1550.00 at the Poison Ivy open at Bear Creek.




When is the Poison Ivy Open? :D

After a long conversation with Mace, the final results of the Open division has changed from:

Nolan
Mike
Miles
Joe and <font color="red">John </font>
Santos
Pepper


to:

Nolan
Mike
Miles
Joe
Santos
<font color="red"> John </font> and Pepper


During the 1st round on hole #18 my drive skipped OB. Initially, i threw from where my lie went OB before a player from a different division was walking by and told us about the drop zone. So i went over to the drop zone and finished the hole from there. My card and i discussed what happened and we put several astericks on my scorecard as a reminder to discuss what happened with the TD so that the correct score was turned in. A couple of distractions later(phone call from crying wife, rushed for food, etc), none of us talked to the TD and my card was turned in with the incorrect score. So, two days later, i was stroked once for the "practice throw" and two more times for turning in an incorrect scorecard. (3 strokes total)

For more than 15 years i've played this game with the utmost integrity and as professional as i know to be. During that time I've also counted every throw, and every penalty that has come my way. I wanted to make sure that i continued to do so, which is why i called Mace and told him everything that happened after reading the ruling.

Cheers,
John





John, if you would have been listening when the course rules were explained, then there wouldn't be a question.



Listen hear LittleLongerBone, i heard you loud and clear, which means i was listening at the meeting. However, while on an unfamiliar course and someone else was carrying the cards at that moment, it might as well had been Hole #5. Besides that, usually #18 is the last hole you play when you start on hole #1. Regardless it's still my fault which is why i did the right thing and talked to Mace, albeit 2 days later. The real confusion came when Ron and Giggler approached me before the the 2nd round started and said that i was stroked for turning in the wrong score. So, i thought the penalty had already been taken care of.

I'm just glad that the right thing was done, the results are now correct, and i still have what i came to the course with; my integrity.

Would a man with integrity be on the MB probation list?
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The answer would be "YES" (and he is not the only man of integrity on the list, IMO)


Sorry John, couldn't resist, even though I live in a glass house :)

you know what they say about glass houses and stoners.

Fun tournament! Can't wait for the PIO

Thanks for answering "Yes" Bill. In my defense, i was placed on probation for posting a digital picture of a disc in my collection that Innova printed and distributed. I have posted it several times over the years, so I had no idea that it was offensive, but somebody complained and here we are.

someone complained about innova plastic. Get out of here :D:p

I hope that whoever grabbed my umbrella knows that the karma rain cloud will pour acid rain on them when my umbrella is opened up.

hey shabookie nice 2nd round out there are you going to piney woods

Thanks for answering "Yes" Bill. In my defense, i was placed on probation for posting a digital picture of a disc in my collection that Innova printed and distributed. I have posted it several times over the years, so I had no idea that it was offensive, but somebody complained and here we are.



Wow! It was a picture of a hotstamp that you had posted? Can you describe it, without getting in trouble? The only one I can think of was one I saw where a guy was sitting in a chair, and that's as far as I will go in describing it.

I think that's the one. Nothing wrong with the stamp... but if that is the one, I can see how it could be called "inappropriate for minors". meh.

BTW - who has one of those stamps and how much you want for it? :)

I'm sure your aware...Posted scores are Graded to Par 54 instead of 60.

My buddies are calling me a liar...I told them I was +68... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Thanks for answering "Yes" Bill. In my defense, i was placed on probation for posting a digital picture of a disc in my collection that Innova printed and distributed. I have posted it several times over the years, so I had no idea that it was offensive, but somebody complained and here we are.



Wow! It was a picture of a hotstamp that you had posted? Can you describe it, without getting in trouble? The only one I can think of was one I saw where a guy was sitting in a chair, and that's as far as I will go in describing it.



LOL, it's not the chair guy hot stamp. :DThis one is a color stamp(not to today's inncolor/supercolor standards) of a, hmmmmmmmmm, let's say, flowering plant :cool:.....known as the Frozen Rope Innova Banshee from 8 or 10 years ago.

No one hit the ace so it should start at around $1550.00 at the Poison Ivy open at Bear Creek.




When is the Poison Ivy Open? :D



Bueller? Bueller?..... :confused:

Poison Ivy Open (if everyone can behave long enough for that course to not get pulled) Jan 5-6. It will be a 1 day C-tier. Rec and Advanced play on Saturday, with INT and all Open Divisions playing on Sunday. This will allow you to test the waters of the next division up (not Down) at this event. It will be a 42 hole event (2 rounds of 21). Players Meeting will be at 9am both days.
AND THERE IT IS!!!!! ENJOY!!!!!!! :D

I know bro... -1 from the whites and 14+ from the reds.... That is a big ol dang ol! No piney woods for me.

Thanks for answering "Yes" Bill. In my defense, i was placed on probation for posting a digital picture of a disc in my collection that Innova printed and distributed. I have posted it several times over the years, so I had no idea that it was offensive, but somebody complained and here we are.



Wow! It was a picture of a hotstamp that you had posted? Can you describe it, without getting in trouble? The only one I can think of was one I saw where a guy was sitting in a chair, and that's as far as I will go in describing it.



LOL, it's not the chair guy hot stamp. :DThis one is a color stamp(not to today's inncolor/supercolor standards) of a, hmmmmmmmmm, let's say, flowering plant :cool:.....known as the Frozen Rope Innova Banshee from 8 or 10 years ago.



Really! I think that EscapeGoat's avatar is more "inappropriate for a minor" than showing a golf disc with a picture of a hemp leaf, but I will leave that to the "m0n!+0r5" to decide, since that last time I happened to comment that I thought that they might have been a wee bit tight with a decision I received a reply that was a magnitude greater than my comment.


ps Glad it wasn't the chair guy. I knew that you would know better than that.

I added the 20 hole layout and it changed things a little. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7360&amp;year=2007&amp;incl udeRatings=1#Open)

I am pleased to announce some details as they stand for the next addition of the North Texas Series.

The first event is already out of the way, it was Veterans Park Open. I am personally very pleased to see the ADGA on a serious bounce back.

Upcoming events include:

Crowley on Saturday Dec 1. This will be a 40 hole PDGA C-tier 1 day event. The Ace Pot is in the neighborhood of $1200 before registration even starts for this event. The players meeting will be at 9 AM. Reg will be cut off at 8:30am. Daylight will be an issue at this event so please use Title Disc to pre-register.

Poison Ivy Open (if everyone can behave long enough for that course to not get pulled) Jan 5-6. It will be a 1 day C-tier. Rec and Advanced play on Saturday, with INT and all Open Divisions playing on Sunday. This will allow you to test the waters of the next division up (not Down) at this event. It will be a 42 hole event (2 rounds of 21). Players Meeting will be at 9am both days.

The Big Show
The Big Show at Cedar Hill will open the week again this year. Are you ready for this.....it will be the week after the Stupid Bowl. Feb 9-10 A 72 hole PDGA B-tier event.

Hockey Game on Monday night Feb 11. More details later.

Mid-Week Wednesday Feb 13 Course TBA

Z Boaz Open Feb 16-17. This will be a PDGA A Tier. I am working on formats that will include the course on the North Side of the tracks. However this is where this plan will succeed or fail, it will require everyone to be signed up on Friday or before. It will also require us to get under way at 8 am (not have a meeting at 8 am, start at 8am). Before you scream at both of these prospects it will allow all Open and Advanced players to play 2 rounds of the Original Z Boaz. Unfortunately it will also require all Rec and Intermediate players to play 2 rounds on the temp. This plan will also allow for the number of players that played this year with no ghost cards, but it will take a commitment from YOU as well.

The Z Boaz Format Skins Match will follow on Sunday Afternoon.

This is all that I have firmed up at this point. There will more events, the dates just haven't been confirmed yet.

They include:
A one Day event at Arcadia Park in Ft Worth
Paul Giles Memorial
A to Z Doubles
Rock Wall

And Maybe:
Match Play (single elimination two divisions Am or Pro)
Pecan Park Open
Waco

Many more details will follow.




Time to bump this up. Time to make plans. It will not be long before PIO is upon us.

Happy Hollidays to All !!! :D

So what's the word on the PIO? Have folks been good so the baskets are still in the ground?

Talking to My_Hero the baskets are still out there. There Wednesday night Mini's are still going with strong #'s of players.

Poison Ivy Open (if everyone can behave long enough for that course to not get pulled) Jan 5-6. It will be a 1 day C-tier. Rec and Advanced play on Saturday, with INT and all Open Divisions playing on Sunday. This will allow you to test the waters of the next division up (not Down) at this event. It will be a 42 hole event (2 rounds of 21). Players Meeting will be at 9am both days.




The course has not been pulled. Let's pray that the hoodlum kids can keep themselves together for 3.5 more weeks so that the baskets dont get pulled.

Remember that the ace pot for the event STARTS around $ 1,550! This event usually is very crowded and should have close to a $2,000 ace pot by the time everyone signs up.

See you there!

PS. I'm not so sure the Wed nights are happening this winter. You might want to give Mike D a call if you are interested in glow golf.

ROCKWALL!!!!!!!!!!!

concur

rucnoc
Im gunning for you pancake man. Griddle Thumb on that!

you are a failed anagrammist, and i will crush you like
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Registration for the Poison Ivy Open is live on http://www.titleDISC.com/ !!

I can't stress this enough: Be sure you make note of which day(s) you're signing up for. If you're not current for 2008, be sure to include the $5 non-pdga fee with your registration. This sort of thing always slows things down for the PIO... let's help it run smoothly this year :)

$10 non-member fee.... PDGA raised it for 2008.

good information to have... how did I miss this? I'll update titledisc now.

I see you made the update at the bottom of the page (with the drop down box), but it still says "Remember to take note of the day your division plays on. You will need to be PDGA current for 2008, or you will need to pay the $5 non-pdga fee." ... Just FYI... you probably want to change this as well :c )

thanks :) fixing now

I miss bear creek, I will always consider it my home course, wish I could make it...

Start heading south a few days before the event and throw an ace for 2 grand. What's our split?

50/50 split at this point... I've considered every option, even two powerball tickets for tonight! What's this about baskets? Have some been stolen lately?

Just Registered...let's Hope I can make better showing than Crowley

What's this about baskets? Have some been stolen lately?



The neighbor-hood rats could very well get the course pulled. The police are hearing complaints from nearby home owners about kids drinking, smoking, and cursing. The Wed night crowd isn't the problem but may pay the ultimate price of losing the course.

All it sums up to is a respect issue. With the course so close to homes, ones of the nice variety too, people need to have respect for others and the property around them. No body respects anyone these days its all me me me. Its sad that people that a few people who dont care ruin it for the many who do. And this may come as a shock and I am going to get blasted for it, but if these things are true then the people living there have every right to push to get the course pulled. And in all honesty I would side with them. They have the right bring up there kids and build a home in peace and quiet. Thats why people move to these more remote sub divisions. As much as I would hate to see this wonderful course go, it might be the best ting for the comunity. But it will be interestign to see what happens back there if the course is pulled. The cover of playing disc golf will be gone, and that may be enough to scare people away from doing "stuff" on the back half. All I am saying is the comunity should come first. I guess we will find out. :(

There is no reason for you to get blasted for what you said.

If you can't do in your front yard you can't do it at a course, in a public park. It is not anyone's right to do illegal activities in a public place.

What a few see as their right will get them in trouble, there are some people out there that may not be whom they seam to be.....if you know what I mean.

More could be said but you know it already.

Happy Holidays!!

Back at ya MACE :D

Oh and by the way, you should go right now and sign up on titleDisc.com. You should plan on being signed up before the day of the event for this one. There is usually no room left in this event on the day of.

Just because you know my name does not mean I will hold a spot for you. Sign up on TITLEDISC NOW. No pre-reg means no play!!

Just one more thing...there was 198 players for both days. We can take 105 each day, and if that happens the ace pot will top $2500!! Even in the rain, although I know you will run and hide as if you will melt if there is a threat of rain. So if your not hard core than wait until the last minute to sign up...but the last minute will be on Friday for Saturday players and on Saturday for Sunday players.

All Aces Split for both days. All aces will pay by check no matter who you think you are.

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I thought this should be in larger text. :D


Oh and by the way, you should go right now and sign up on titleDisc.com. You should plan on being signed up before the day of the event for this one. There is usually no room left in this event on the day of.

<font size=6> Just because you know my name does not mean I will hold a spot for you. Sign up on TITLEDISC NOW. No pre-reg means no play!! </font>

Just signed up...c'mon big money! Daddy needs a new pair of everything!

Just signed up...c'mon big money! Daddy needs a new pair of everything!



Hoefully not the pair God gave you! :D

See ya Sunday at Bistineau

Pull out baskets #5 and #8 (Boom! Gone!)

Redirect: walk from #4 to #9 (not far)

walk from #9 to #7 (not far)

walk from #7 to #6 (not far, especially long to long)

walk from #6 to #10 (this is the only hitch, but not a big deal if you make a back door trail of about 60ft. Wouldn't have to pull one single tree and you wouldn't be criss crossing #7. You'd only have to aproach with caution IF a card is throwing from the long tee pad).

10, 11, and 12 as is... (I still think #12 should have a "long" basket 20ft. left of the "dead car," clasic!)

13 - 18 is fine, have never heard of any problems, other than hole #15 short to long being retarded! lol

A possible hole "make up" would be adding #2b. However short it would be, hey this is Bear Creek, comon! I realize the foot traffic on the trail is a problem, just a thought. Anyone have any ideas for two "make up" holes, just throw it out there? Perhaps left of #6? I know there was talk about that land at one time a few years ago.

Anyway, there's 16 holes that would work! Only the long tee on #6 would be near the neighborhood.

Durring the only sactioned event (that I am aware of) Mace usually adds 5 holes and the sleaves would still be there on 5 and 8 for the PIO. Meanwhile, the other 363 days of the year you'd still have a course in the ground, beats nothin' if you ask me...

16 &gt; ZERO

right (east) of hole #6 I meant...

right (east) of hole #6 I meant...



Ok, I have just one question.



WHAAAAT?

it took me a few minutes to figure out WTH you were talking about but once I pictured it all in my head, I think you're right. This would take 90% of the foot traffic away from the neighbors and probably limit their exposure to the unwelcome element of our sport. #4 (esp. in the long pin) is the only leftover issue.

It's sad that we can't really police our own courses. Maybe it's time to set a precedent of some sort that gives the course pro and/or the supporting club to "ticket" or otherwise discourage the bad element. Even those tournament players who may partake in some of the unwanted activities usually have the decency to do so where it won't be noticed by or affect anyone in the area. it's that other 10%... *sigh*

Well, a course without a bad element is like a day without sunshine. :D

Well, a course without a bad element is like a day without sunshine. :D



I dont see what you are talking about. All i can see, even when my eyes are closed, is the image in your avatar. :eek:

The City of Grapevine is doing everything they can in order to keep the course. They now require all event organizers to get a permit. A background check is done befor this permit is issued. They are trying to weed out (pun intended) some of the known problematic people that run weekend doubles events and minis of the sort. Even the Wed night tournament is now permitted. They also are requiring all vendors to get a sales permit. They dont want to pull the course, but they've done all they can do, the rest is up to the neighborhood kids. If they can behave, they'll have a place to play, if not, the next closest DG courses might start seeing some problems.

I dont see what you are talking about. All i can see, even when my eyes are closed, is the image in your avatar.

...it is amazing what they do with plastic these days! lol

hole four would still be a problem... I was just trying to think of a resonable solution to the problem, I love this course and hope it stays. It's the first course I ever played. Draz taught me how to play there, so on and so on. But to honest with you, I am shocked it's still there!

I dont see what you are talking about. All i can see, even when my eyes are closed, is the image in your avatar.

...it is amazing what they do with plastic these days! lol



You need to learn how to use the Quote button. :p :D

By the way, nice bio. Are you a little light in the loafers? :D

well why don't you show me MB Jedi? lol :D I just highlighted and clicked ctrl/c then ctrl/v in the box, thought that was how you do it. It drags it over, but not with your fancy straight line! I haven't posted since '04, got tired of being MISUNDERSTOOD! lol "Light in the loafers"? huh My wife doesn't think so!

that sounded like a personal attack! Aren't you already on prob? Strike two! lol

By the way, nice bio. Are you a little light in the loafers? :D



Light in the loafers? Not with 3 Hemme's and a Hero in there, now that's heavy:D

that sounded like a personal attack! Aren't you already on prob? Strike two! lol



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By the way, nice bio. Are you a little light in the loafers? :D



Light in the loafers? Not with 3 Hemme's and a Hero in there, now that's heavy:D



How silly of me. That is heavy. Happy Holidays to the Hemme's. ;)

How silly of me. That is heavy. Happy Holidays to the Hemme's. ;)



Likewise John :)

another update:

all online pre-registration for this event can be found via the titleDISC PIO signup page: http://www.titledisc.com/Events/PIO_08.php

look for the "Click Here to view current Registration" link right under the event title and date info.

As always, feedback is appreciated :)

I just got some Champion Destroyers and Champion T-Rex X in with the PIO stamp on them. They look nice.

Happy birthday Brain

happy birthday Brian! way to represent the Sagittarian!

Happy Birthday Mace!

Jeez, it's 2pm, <font size=6> WAKE UP! </font>

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Leave me alone and let me sleep!!

Did you sign up yet???

That list is on the grow!! John Maiuro, and The Seabolts are also in there.

I not going to name names, but players like Anthony Pugh, Jack Tabor, Steve Parker, and any others who won multiple times in their division in 2007 should play up on the second day. This is a perfect opportunity to test the waters of the divisions you all should really be playing in. :cool:

Go back to sleep. :D

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I realize that this will cause a panic in your wait until the last minute lives, but it you are playing on Saturday you only have 7 days to sign up. If you are playing on Sunday you have 8 days. I do not plan on taking any registration on the day you are going to play for this event.

You can eliminate all doubt and save yourself the hassle of trying to get there on Friday by going to titleDisc (http://www.titledisc.com/Events/PIO_08.php) and sign up NOW!!!

Doubles at 3pm on Friday.

I do not plan on taking any registration on the day you are going to play for this event.




Is that a threat? Oh wait, i'm already in!

Actually, since you do not PLAN on taking entries on the day of, will there be a <font color="green"> surcharge </font> for having to change your plans and taking entries on the day of? (b/c you know the fair weather people are going to wait until the day of) I hope there is a small <font color="green"> charge </font> . Why should those that pre-registered have to wait the extra 30min-90min delayed start for those that didn't prereg? Time is money after all.

Go back to zzzZZZZZzzzz-ing!

or better offer registration for the tournament more than 2 weeks before and you wont have this problem,why not offer pre-registration for the entire series at 1 time- worst case scenario is that the tournament will fill a month before.just a suggestion,do what you want but that seems to work around here with COTO,Red Rock Show,etc.. usually filling at least 2 weeks before the tournament and everything seems to run on schedule because there are not too many day of sign-ups.

Looks like the pro's are going to sign up on Saturday ;)

Are there no courses around Zboaz? No offense but the temp course is <font color="blue"> offensive material removed </font> and I am trying to talk some out of state guys into coming and the 1st thing they asked is if the course was being played again.

Weatherford and Crowley are the 2 closest. Both are 20 minutes away. You've played Weatherford, and probably have the same feeling as most...it just doesnt compliment the Almighty Z! Crowley, on the otherhand, would be pretty cool and is somewhat comparable to the Z.

Weatherford and Crowley are the 2 closest. Both are 20 minutes away. You've played Weatherford, and probably have the same feeling as most...it just doesnt compliment the Almighty Z! Crowley, on the otherhand, would be pretty cool and is somewhat comparable to the Z.





Yeah I have heard a lot of good things about Crowley and was hoping it was nearby. Maybe someone can talk some sense into Mace.. :D

Or we could just do the logical thing and split the pro and Am field.

Or we could just do the logical thing and split the pro and Am field.



I just don't like the fact that it is more the temp course open than Z Boaz. Especially when the temp is a pitch and putt and you have to do well there to have a chance of placing well.

I'll have to agree with that..if you didn't play well last year on the temp, most likely you didn't compete overall..and the temp course was Lefty friendly..not a bad thing, but not the best thought out course,,

Z 4 rounds..Pro/ADV...

if you need to include the other divisions keep them at Vet or 2 weekends..

thoughts? ...just some ideas /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

won't change this year and no problem as everyone knows where they will play, but a tweaking couldn't hurt

is this course cart friendly?? and is this tourney in grapevine or crowley I dont want to dig back through this thread and what hotels are close to the course?? thanks

is this course cart friendly??





No clue but it requires less putting and more golfing.

Is the PIO rating based?

Just noticed it said 950 or better and I'm 946. But I play Open now (hint hint, nudge nudge, say no more)

Moon out

no, it's not... that was intended as an anti-bagging "guideline" (hint hint wink wink nudge nudge say no more) :D

I've changed it now, to prevent further confusion

Sweet, then I'm in. I'm trying to get a friend who grew up there to play int., what's the latest (you think) before it fills?

I can play both days technically, so maybe I'll bring some pressure on the baggers, especially those 955 or better :eek:

I think it will fill or at least be close to filling by Thursday or Friday at the latest. Remember that each day is capped individually, so Saturday may fill before Sunday or vice versa.

I'm playing both days as well, but I'm playing MA2 and MA1 :)

there's only 1 hole that wouldnt be cart friendly Ware

there was alot of people that i saw playing at bear creek
that i know that will be playing on saturday and sunday

there's only 1 hole that wouldnt be cart friendly Ware



thank you

can anyone recommend a close hotel???

there's only 1 hole that wouldnt be cart friendly Ware



thank you

can anyone recommend a close hotel???



There are several within a couple miles of the course. There's a Super 8 and a Holiday Inn Express close by if those would be okay. If you go to google maps, click search businesses and enter hotel, and put in Stone Creek Pkwy, Grapevine, Tx as the address, it will get you where you need to go.

Ware, go to www.motel6.com (http://www.motel6.com) I just found a room on there in Euless for 32.89/night -2 queens smoking or non

thanks guys.

As usual you are right Johnny. It will now cost you $10 to sign up the day of this event. So just in case this does not make any sense to you if you play on Saturday and somehow there is a spot left for you it will cost you and extra $10 to play.

Before you start asking, it is none of your business where that money goes. But since you are bound to ask, lets just say that it will go into the "Replace the Mace Man Van Fund".

If you wait that long you will be looking for something else to do this weekend anyway. I feel confident that it will fill before either day gets here.

titleDISC (http://www.titledisc.com/) is selling peace of mind at very affordable rates. It is cheaper than gas!! :D

Motel 6 has small rooms, we need a bigger room :cool:

Mace is right, titleDISC has taken 63 or so entries for this event already, and we're still a week out. I know that a few others have been taken by Mace in person, so I think we're almost half full already and the entries are still coming in.

If you have any problems with titleDISC whether it be site functionality or payment completion, please let me know and we'll get it taken care of. Nobody will miss out on registration simply because of technical difficulty... as long as you let me know.

MY DREAM TO RELIVE MY INTERMEDIATE DAYS CAN NOW BE REALIZED. LOOK OUT BOYS, I'M BACK.......


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technically it's 934 for intermediate... too bad you're 937 ;)

I just don't like the fact that it is more the temp course open than Z Boaz. Especially when the temp is a pitch and putt and you have to do well there to have a chance of placing well.



maceman said something about starting the first round at 8am so that most of the zboaz open is on the original zboaz course, something about 3 rounds in one day, i dunno, i might have been drunk.....

MY DREAM TO RELIVE MY INTERMEDIATE DAYS CAN NOW BE REALIZED. LOOK OUT BOYS, I'M BACK.......


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:cool:



Looks like it Adv Master for you Jack...uh...chuck.....uh.....dark knight????? :D:D:D:D Is that a picture of you putting from between the trees????

CURSES.......
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AND TO MR. LOWRY UP THERE IN THE FROZEN TUNDRA KNOWN AS LITTLE GREENLAND (AKA-OKLAHOMA), YOUR TIME WOULD BE BETTER SPENT LOOKING FOR SOME FIREWOOD SIR AS OPPOSED TO BEING A MEANIE........ :cool:

If you've played some tournaments since the last ones in your database, you might get down to 934 with the January update. I'm 934 and I'm playing Intermediate next weekend!

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Does Tobey know you did this to your dog???? oh there is too much tundra for firewood here... :eek: :D:D

In any other Disc Golf City in the world this event would have been full last week. But in the Fair Weather Capitol of the entire wide world you are still quite scared of melting on the weekend. According to this website you (http://www.accuweather.com/forecast.asp?partner=accuweather&amp;traveler=0&amp;zipcod e=76001&amp;metric=0) have nothing to worry about. It looks as if your chances of melting are about the same as the Cowboys chances to go deep in the playoffs.....not very good.:D

What are you waiting for?!?!?

no fair weather player here. monies being transferred from my account to title disc's account as we speak. Hail to the prom king,queen and their court:
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And to you Mr. 2 bits,i would never own such an animal as the chihuahua. The only true dog is an:

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Is there going to be any doubles on friday before the PIO

In any other Disc Golf City in the world this event would have been full last week. But in the Fair Weather Capitol of the entire wide world you are still quite scared of melting on the weekend. According to this website you (http://www.accuweather.com/forecast.asp?partner=accuweather&amp;traveler=0&amp;zipcod e=76001&amp;metric=0) have nothing to worry about. It looks as if your chances of melting are about the same as the Cowboys chances to go deep in the playoffs.....not very good.:D

What are you waiting for?!?!?



They are waiting for you to hold their little hands and write the check for them.... :D:D:D....

(As he steps up on the soap box he says)

This is part of the reason our sport grows so little...NO COMMITMENT...you know as well as I Brian that DGers are some of the most non-commitment oriented people on the planet. As TD's we give and give and the folks that are players just want to show up whenever and be catered to and have the TD's tell them they are glad they showed up. They forget that without the TD's they would not have a tournament to just show up at.

(he steps down off the soap box)

Anyway, my boys and I will see you this weekend. :cool:

And to you Mr. 2 bits,i would never own such an animal as the chihuahua. The only true dog is an:

http://www.catbreedinfo.net/images/mastiffstand.jpg



You better watch out....he might slobber on your disc.. :D:D:D:D

hey smokingun1 i think i found you

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i found you smokingun1

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I bet that is what Chuck looks like about 12:37am each day. :D

Do I really need to remind you that you need to sign up for this now!!

look here mr bits, "he seats himself in his throne", just u remember that i am special. probably the most special person that you will ever have the chance to meet. Ask anyone, i am considered a discgolf demigod in some people's minds (david covalt for one). so u just remember that the next time you are being coy with me sir....... :cool:

somkingun is a nice golfer and he will be one of the nicest guy to meet

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SHUT UP

I haven't signed up because all the people I travel with are in ADV and don't want to stay on sunday. Heck I don't blame them either.

With all that bread up for grabs in the ace pot, I am sure there are plenty who would love to hang around and take a few extra throws for that money. Over $2000 is it?

With all that bread up for grabs in the ace pot, I am sure there are plenty who would love to hang around and take a few extra throws for that money. Over $2000 is it?



I'm sure that won't be aroung on sunday though. BTW if it is hit saturday does it start back over for the Pros? If so that is kinda BS due to the way the event is split.

So do we get to see who has pre registered?

So do we get to see who has pre registered?



Agreed! I didn't even know about this event until My_hero asked if I was playing. GET IT UP ON THE CALENDAR

you can see the pre-reg list at titledisc.com

How could I not be as smart about this stuff as you are (http://www.titledisc.com/prereg.php?eventid=300) Scooter? Why don't you try talking some sense into me or something?

Don't let the lack of pro's scare you.....everyone knows that they don't need to sign up early or attend players meetings. Everything will be waiting on them at their first hole.

Mr. Mace is as soft as a:

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How could I not be as smart about this stuff as you are (http://www.titledisc.com/prereg.php?eventid=300) Scooter? Why don't you try talking some sense into me or something?



Ok! Don't use that lame excuse for a course across the tracks at Zboaz.

I don't use titledisc since I don't have paypal and instead get someone to sign me up and pay them back so I'm sorry I didn't know they show a reg list there.

Will there be payout at Cedar Hill this year?

So do we get to see who has pre registered?



Agreed! I didn't even know about this event until My_hero asked if I was playing. GET IT UP ON THE CALENDAR



I bothered Mace while he was hard at work today and said, "when is the PIO?, Cedar Hill? and Z-Boaz? They're not on the calendar yet and i need to concrete some plans/dates. "

I'm sure we'll see them on there soon.

As for the ace pot questions: The ace pot starts around $1550 and this event usually has well over 100 players between the 2 days so it should be over $2,000 by the time the fat lady sings. According to Mace it is already over half way full. So don't hesitate to sign up unless you want to contribute to the MaceMan Van fund. :DIncidentally, all aces split all weekend long. If an ADV or REC aces on Saturday they wont know how much they are taking home until the OPEN and INT finish on Sunday.

So do we get to see who has pre registered?



Agreed! I didn't even know about this event until My_hero asked if I was playing. GET IT UP ON THE CALENDAR



I bothered Mace while he was hard at work today and said, "when is the PIO?, Cedar Hill? and Z-Boaz? They're not on the calendar yet and i need to concrete some plans/dates. "

I'm sure we'll see them on there soon.

As for the ace pot questions: The ace pot starts around $1550 and this event usually has well over 100 players between the 2 days so it should be over $2,000 by the time the fat lady sings. According to Mace it is already over half way full. So don't hesitate to sign up unless you want to contribute to the MaceMan Van fund. :DIncidentally, all aces split all weekend long. If an ADV or REC aces on Saturday they wont know how much they are taking home until the OPEN and INT finish on Sunday.





Thanks John! I just need to get a ride and I'll sign up.

I don't use titledisc since I don't have paypal...



I don't think a paypal account is required. Titledisc just uses paypal for the merchant service. However, address information is needed by paypal to validate the transaction.

look here mr bits, "he seats himself in his throne", just u remember that i am special. probably the most special person that you will ever have the chance to meet. Ask anyone, i am considered a discgolf demigod in some people's minds (david covalt for one). so u just remember that the next time you are being coy with me sir....... :cool:



Well with references like that you might want to reconsider your status......Covalt????? He thinks I too am a Disc Golf demigod.....(I think it is something to do with the KC part of him).....You are however correct about that special part.....We just haven't figured out what part....I mean you do listen to Covalt.. :D:D:D:D:D:D

Just because you and your Siamese Sister think I need to do something doesn't mean it is true.

Step up or shut up! Run an event or don't throw stones at the people that are doing it for you.

There was a payout at Cedar Hill and there will be one again this year.

Contrary to popular belief some people have a better time when some of you stay home. And further more it doesn't mean anything to me one way or another if you come or stay home.

If you stay home the others that hit that ace will not have to split it with you. All aces split....from both days.... is that ok with you smarty?

Just because you and your Siamese Sister think I need to do something doesn't mean it is true.

Step up or shut up! Run an event or don't throw stones at the people that are doing it for you.

There was a payout at Cedar Hill and there will be one again this year.

Contrary to popular belief some people have a better time when some of you stay home. And further more it doesn't mean anything to me one way or another if you come or stay home.

If you stay home the others that hit that ace will not have to split it with you. All aces split....from both days.... is that ok with you smarty?




The payout was horrible at Cedar Hill and for shooting 1020+ and beating a lot of great players and only losing to 2 of the best players in the worlds $185 seemed WEAK for 3rd in a 27 player B-tier and only players 5th or higher got $100. I really won't let that keep me from attending though since I like the courses and need to play a lot of B-tiers to qualify for a state rep spot.

I am doing the best I can with what I was given. I added money to Cedar Hill and Z Boaz each year. Your payout has absolutely nothing to do with the rating of your golf at the event. I plug the numbers into the TD Report and it tells me what to pay.

If you don't like a hobby that pays you something back than maybe you should join a bowling league where you pay every week and get bragging rights at the end. I would say pool or darts leagues but you aren't old enough for that yet. But when you are you will find that not only do you not get paid for those either, you pay each week to play and to consume whatever it is that you are consuming while you are there.

So getting something is not a rip off, it is having your cake and eating it too. If that is not good enough for any of you stay where you are now.

I am doing the best I can with what I was given. I added money to Cedar Hill and Z Boaz each year. Your payout has absolutely nothing to do with the rating of your golf at the event. I plug the numbers into the TD Report and it tells me what to pay.


If you don't like a hobby that pays you something back than maybe you should join a bowling league where you pay every week and get bragging rights at the end. I would say pool or darts leagues but you aren't old enough for that yet. But when you are you will find that not only do you not get paid for those either, you pay each week to play and to consume whatever it is that you are consuming while you are there.

So getting something is not a rip off, it is having your cake and eating it too. If that is not good enough for any of you stay where you are now.




Doesn't pretty much all of that added money at Zboaz go to the skins? That helps 8 people out

I have no clue how you can add money to a tournament and payout a few hundred less than was paid in.

Doesn't pretty much all of that added money at Zboaz go to the skins? That helps 8 people out

I have no clue how you can add money to a tournament and payout a few hundred less than was paid in.



You are finally right about one thing, you have no clue. So you better just leave it at that. You don't pay attention at players meetings or awards. You are out playing or putting when explanations are given.

Hundreds of dollars less??? Do your own homework before you talk on what you have heard like it is fact.

Run an event and you will see.

Until then you can participate in the parking lot math lessons and come to the same conclusion of hundreds before you. And when the torches are lit you too can be a part of a witch hunt. If you are lucky you will be there when another TD is burned at the stake by a bunch of greedy vultures that are as uninformed as you are.

Doesn't pretty much all of that added money at Zboaz go to the skins? That helps 8 people out

I have no clue how you can add money to a tournament and payout a few hundred less than was paid in.



You are finally right about one thing, you have no clue. So you better just leave it at that. You don't pay attention at players meetings or awards. You are out playing or putting when explanations are given.

Hundreds of dollars less??? Do your own homework before you talk on what you have heard like it is fact.

Run an event and you will see.

Until then you can participate in the parking lot math lessons and come to the same conclusion of hundreds before you. And when the torches are lit you too can be a part of a witch hunt. If you are lucky you will be there when another TD is burned at the stake by a bunch of greedy vultures that are as uninformed as you are.



How much were the entries? I thought it was like $70 so a just used $60 as a safe bet and still the payout was $100 less. Also Zboaz has some of the lowest payout of almost any A-tier.

If you show up this year come see me when I don't have 23 people asking me questions and I will gladly show you and any other nay sayer the TD Reports that break it all down for you.

The facts are as follows: PIO 2007 paid out 101% of pro entry fee's, Cedar Hill 2007 paid out 124% of pro entry fee's. And the Z Boaz Open with out the skins match paid out 116% just on checks that were written. Then when you include the players packages, and trophies it comes up to 145%. Should I add the skins to that or do you want to do it yourself?

There are so many things to consider besides cash in and cash out. So if you doubt me come and see me and I will show you the reports.

Until then throw another log on the fire, surly you will find someone else to burn.....like your old sponsor. :D

If you show up this year come see me when I don't have 23 people asking me questions and I will gladly show you and any other nay sayer the TD Reports that break it all down for you.

The facts are as follows: PIO 2007 paid out %101 of pro entry fee's, Cedar Hill 2007 paid out %124 of pro entry fee's. And the Z Boaz Open with out the skins match paid out 116% just on checks that were written. Then when you include the players packages, and trophies it comes up to %145. Should I add the skins to that or do you want to do it yourself?

There are so many things to consider besides cash in and cash out. So if you doubt me come and see me and I will show you the reports.

Until then throw another log on the fire, surly you will find someone else to burn.....like your old sponsor. :D




How in the world did you pay 124% when you collected between $1560 at $60 to $1820 at $70 and only payed out $1477?

Octagon...

Octagon...



Payout isn't the only thing I look at whe attending an event and the positives of Cedar Hill and Zboaz outweigh the payout. I go to those events to play with good players and try to do well but unless you are in the top 4 at Zboaz you won't get that much cash.

I will be traveling to Lewisville on Feb 2nd though because of the past payout.

You don't know as much as you think. As I said before you come and see me and you will see the facts. Doing the math on your fingers on the message board will not give you the right info.

You don't know as much as you think. As I said before you come and see me and you will see the facts. Doing the math on your fingers on the message board will not give you the right info.



Ok well I guess all the other B-tiers I played this year payed out 175%...........

Can somebody please explain what this symbol means?



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If anybody cares I will be attending this tourney no matter what the payout is..... so I can give the real pro's my money :DAND I don't care if they get 75% or 124% of it! :eek: :p I love this game.. beeeches :o

the common mistake when calculating payout (on your fingers, as mace said) is that people forget to account for things like players packs, trophies, charity donation, pdga fees, etc. Once you take those dollars out of the equation, you'll see the numbers Mace is talking about. I'm pretty sure he's posted them somewhere before (more than once, iirc) but it's been awhile. I know that when I read them back then, it all made sense.

c'mon out Matt and play. Oh, and about titleDISC / PayPal - you can sign up using any credit card you like, you don't have to have a paypal account. You can even pay with an e-check if you prefer, just please don't use that option inside of 4 days before the event :)

edit: I forgot to mention that the next couple months of Mace's events are listed on the main page of titledisc.com, if anyone was looking for event dates

the common mistake when calculating payout (on your fingers, as mace said) is that people forget to account for things like players packs, trophies, charity donation, pdga fees, etc. Once you take those dollars out of the equation, you'll see the numbers Mace is talking about. I'm pretty sure he's posted them somewhere before (more than once, iirc) but it's been awhile. I know that when I read them back then, it all made sense.

c'mon out Matt and play. Oh, and about titleDISC / PayPal - you can sign up using any credit card you like, you don't have to have a paypal account. You can even pay with an e-check if you prefer, just please don't use that option inside of 4 days before the event :)




That's why I just said it was $60 per player VS $70. BTW I'd gladly give back whatever players pack I received for another $10. Pros really don't need or want players packs. I can see $20 taken out for the Open Trophy since only 1st place gets it.

so, was the entry fee $70 for sure? I don't remember... All I can say for sure is that I've known Mace for awhile and I've played his events for even longer than that. There's nothing in his payout or elsewhere that would make me think he's paying out any less than what's appropriate.

so, was the entry fee $70 for sure? I don't remember... All I can say for sure is that I've known Mace for awhile and I've played his events for even longer than that. There's nothing in his payout or elsewhere that would make me think he's paying out any less than what's appropriate.




Well if he is paying out what he says than that just speaks good things about the other events I have played because they must have payed out 150%. I played a few events where I got more cash for placing lower than 3rd.

Also I know Cale was hoping for about $500-$600 and got $370 for 1st.