What's wrong with throwing three hundred pennies PDGA's way, jeez.


we pay the fees over and over again, but get nothing out of it. Mace ran this event, not the PDGA. He had to pay a sanctioning fee to the PDGA (plus insurance), and we each had to pay $3 to the PDGA for the privilege of playing in one of their events. If you hadn't paid your yearly dues, you got to pay $13 for that privilege.

I think if the PDGA is going to charge what they do for a sanctioning fee, then add a per-player fee on top of that... they need to add some value to the tournament other than ratings and meaningless points.

Anyway... another topic for another time. Now for those who complain about payout or anything else during an event:

Mace, correct me where I'm wrong, but here's a breakdown of the PDGA's fees for the weekend:

$75 sanctioning fee
$3 per player fee
120-ish players @ $3 per = $360

the PDGA made (at least) $435 for this event. Plus they sold insurance for the event, but I don't know what the profit margin is there, if any, so I'm leaving that out. I'm not sure what we as players or Mace as a TD got for that $435, but I don't think there was more than an hour or so of work for them to do... I wish I made $435/hour. OK I'm drifting again...

The PDGA made $435. Then they require the TD to add $500 to the pro pot. There is insurance to be paid at $50/day. Park permits, port-a-potties, etc. I don't even know how much that cost, but I know it wasn't free. We're looking at over $1000 off the top just to run an event like this one. Some sponsors helped out so some of those fees were covered, but definitely not all. Add in the costs associated with maintaining a big stash of quality merchandise, all the tables, tents, PA systems, computers, printers, etc. etc. etc... This was an expensive event to put on. I haven't even scratched the surface on the number of man-hours that went into planning and preparing for the event. Even after the event, the work's not done... in spite of that $435 the PDGA already made, Mace still gets to fill out a ton of paperwork and get it turned in (with a *deadline*) to the PDGA.

People wonder how TDs get burned out...

Remember folks, all we had to do was show up, have fun, and throw some plastic. This was a quality event at some awesome courses. It even happened on the most beautiful weekend we've had in months. Mace put on a great show. I think he deserves our support and thanks for making this happen.

When does Titledisc shutdown for the midweek event?


Right now I've got it set up for Noon on tuesday (tomorrow). If you check out the event page, there's some red text towards the bottom that tells you when it's scheduled to shut down :)

Thanks, next time i will check the red letters.

People wonder how TDs get burned out...

the under statement of the year.

Gr8 tourney MACE and all who helped out. Thx for the hard work and KEEP IT GOING!!! :DSee you all at the MIDWEEK. :p

titledisc shows players meeting for the midweek event as 8:30. I believe that Mace said the players meeting would start at 10:00. Mace, If the players meeting is some time other than 10:00, please post.
thanks

meeting is at 9:30am, 1st round at 10:00am. Sorry for the confusion... I've updated titleDISC.

it's not about the fun and the sum, it's about the fun in the sun :cool:

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p.s. . . .I WOUld HAVe been lOUder THAn THOse recs . . .be THAnkfUl I dIdnT plAY ! ! ! :p

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Britt Browning after the drubbing he took contemplates how many birdies he had during one of his rounds


;)

Ken Reagan x3, Paul Testa x3, John Boy Waldron x2, Michael Brownlow, Mike Olse, Jay Reading, and Chris PepperTee....thanks for the great time(s). I couldn't have asked for a better group of people to have golfed with.

And the weather for next weekend might not ne so good. Some of the comp models are calling for ice and sleet friday night!!!! :D


NICE! so you're saying I'll feel right at home then huh.. :D



You should! Hopefully it will end early in the morning. High saturday is said to be about 45! :D

Nice picture of Coda you have there Sprout! :D

Ken Reagan x3, Paul Testa x3, John Boy Waldron x2, Michael Brownlow, Mike Olse, Jay Reading, and Chris PepperTee....thanks for the great time(s). I couldn't have asked for a better group of people to have golfed with.


Ditto John.. Hopefully I learned a little bit from you and can apply it next tourney!! :cool:Gr8 playing with you and maybe your sister will re-schedule and I'll see ya at Z!! :D

Gr8 tourney MACE and all who helped out. Thx for the hard work and KEEP IT GOING!!! :DSee you all at the MIDWEEK. :p



I'm coming for you at the midweek PT.

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Ditto John.. Hopefully I learned a little bit from you and can apply it next tourney!! :cool:Gr8 playing with you and maybe your sister will re-schedule and I'll see ya at Z!! :D



Yeah John, why don't you just have your sis caddy for you?!

Nice picture of Coda you have there Sprout! :D



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Hey Miles,where did you get your weather information from?Just curious?Ive not seen anything about sleet and ice.Rain maybe?But ice and sleet is a little bit of a stretch this early in the week dont you think?Id love to see these so called comp. models you speak of.So please enlighten me.

Brad,

Channel 8 last night said there is a low pressure system moving from W to E. If it slides as little as 60 miles south of it's projected path it could bring white flakes to DFW. Red River area is expecting a little regardless.

As for PT_Bling; he's a cool cat. I had the pleasure of watching him get a 2 on the coyote's #5L and #9 in the same round! Not only where they 2's, they were stress free park jobs. :eek:

Hopefully channel 8 is going to be wrong for the first time ever? :eek:Nice playin' this weekend.Its good to see you back out playing well again.

Yeah I have been watchign Channel 8. And everything I have said I heave heard from them. Sucks I know.

Sorry Sprout, couldnt resist! :D

Yeah John, why don't you just have your sis caddy for you?!



Believe me, i'm doing you guys a favor. You guys wouldn't be able to concentrate if she was walking around the course with me. I'm her bro so i don't see it but everyone says she's super hot. How hot you ask? Just picture me as a chic. :o:eek: :D:Dhttp://images.dmusic.com/v7/emoticons/puke.gif

http://www.forumsextreme.com/imgs1/sEm_blush8.gif

Just picture me as a chic. :o:eek: :D:Dhttp://images.dmusic.com/v7/emoticons/puke.gif


It's been awhile since I have pictured you as a chic... thanks for that ;)

Good to meet and play a round with you John. Nicely done by the way. Dont forget that i teach PT all things disc golf in casual rounds and he turns it around on me at the tourneys. some sorta ninja trick. Nicely done to all who helped put this on. MACE MAN!!!! see yall at Z.

As for PT_Bling; he's a cool cat. I had the pleasure of watching him get a 2 on the coyote's #5L and #9 in the same round! Not only where they 2's, they were stress free park jobs. :eek:

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Good to meet and play a round with you John. Nicely done by the way. Dont forget that i teach PT all things disc golf in casual rounds and he turns it around on me at the tourneys. some sorta ninja trick. Nicely done to all who helped put this on. MACE MAN!!!! see yall at Z.



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I'm coming for you at the midweek PT.

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Oh yeah thanks for the fond memories that came BEFORE my invincible decision making that followed. :mad:Just because I can see a hole the size of a disc does NOT mean I should try and throw a drive through it!! :eek: :p man oh man I have got to quit taking lessons from JOHNBOY!! :eek: :o:p

Oh and JJ........

bring it bro

the real weather:

Feb 13 Tomorrow
Mainly sunny. High 61F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph.

Feb 13 Tomorrow night
Clear skies. Low 44F. Winds S at 10 to 20 mph.

Feb 14 Thursday
Partly cloudy and windy. Highs in the upper 60s and lows in the mid 30s.

Feb 15 Friday
Showers possible. Highs in the low 40s and lows in the low 30s.

Feb 16 Saturday
Showers possible. Highs in the upper 30s and lows in the low 30s.

Feb 17 Sunday
Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the low 50s and lows in the mid 30s.

Feb 18 Monday
Mainly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s and lows in the upper 30s.

the real weather:

Feb 13 Tomorrow
Mainly sunny. High 61F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph.

Feb 13 Tomorrow night
Clear skies. Low 44F. Winds S at 10 to 20 mph.

Feb 14 Thursday
Partly cloudy and windy. Highs in the upper 60s and lows in the mid 30s.

Feb 15 Friday
Showers possible. Highs in the low 40s and lows in the low 30s.

Feb 16 Saturday
Showers possible. Highs in the upper 30s and lows in the low 30s.

Feb 17 Sunday
Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the low 50s and lows in the mid 30s.

Feb 18 Monday
Mainly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s and lows in the upper 30s.



And a few days later it will be back in the 70's. Gotta love Texas weather!!

You mean like this?!?!? Your sister is far better looking than you. http://z.about.com/d/gaylife/1/0/w/5/newyorkgaypride45.jpg

I saw Charles chaseing this girl after the round on Sunday.....can you say too many Black Keystone 's? http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/kokoljc/drag-queen-folsom-street-2.jpg

Cox, Covalt, and a third wheel warming up before the round?

http://www.dogbehaviorrehab.com/images/dogs/dogsniff.jpg

Killing me here :D

Those are very good points Josh. Some of the details are a little off, but that has no nearing on the reality of the entire statement, it is very costly to run these events. Every year there is another "Oh by the way" that ends up costing $250 or more and then there is several more after that and so on.....

I am growing less and less sure of what we get for the $$$ that go away to the PDGA. I am confident of this though, If MM runs an event that is not sanctioned it will be run in the same manner as one that is sanctioned. For some reason there is a perception that the event is better because it is sanctioned, but in reality it would be the same event and more dough would stay here if it was unsanctioned. The main difference is you would not get your rating updated.

ratings can be done outside of PDGA events... someone else just has to step up and create a system for it. A system that allows PDGA and non-PDGA events to be rated... hrm... I wonder who would have the technology to do that...

oh no now if you were to come up with that system what would the PDGA do??? :confused:

Cox, Covalt, and a third wheel warming up before the round?

http://www.dogbehaviorrehab.com/images/dogs/dogsniff.jpg



Ok you two! Take all the pot shots u want to at me as I am an easy target, (They call me teflon man you know), but to hack at The Greatness especially after his weekend, is inhuman to say the least. All Dave wants for the world is good things. I feel fortunate that he only bought his "F" game this weekend. He had explained ahead of time, that it was not his intent to win as it would have been an obscene display of power. He wanted the rest of us to be at ease an put our best foots (footes or feet?) forward, but not to get laxed as he will be there to compete at the midweek event. So with that said, Mr. Mace, it was a great event, loved the weather and hope you spin a little more sunshine our way this coming weekend. My-Gluteus, tell Amy no matter how hard she tries, you are not changing from your current state:

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3063105/2/istockphoto_3063105_fairy_tale_series_the_frog_pri nce.jpg

:cool:

Plus they(the PDGA) sold insurance for the event, but I don't know what the profit margin is there, if any, so I'm leaving that out.



Having family in the insurance business i can shed a little light here. The PDGA currently charges $50 for their blanket insurance. Given the number of events covered it costs them around $15-$20 per event. So your profit margin is roughly $30-$35 per event. Do the math; the PDGA is making a killing by "offering" their insurance.

I wonder how long it will be before someone comes up with a similar insurance blanket and is able to offer TD's a $30 savings right off of the bat.

I think I can answer that question: not very long.

Optimist Club of America offers a blanket insurance
http://www.optimist.org/default.cfm?content=members/mbradm8.htm
Become a member (small fee) run a kids event and you are covered for all events you run.
The days of sanctioned events are moving to a Southern National type model.

I think an organization should emerge that supports the SN-type model as a separate entity but offers a government for the sport. The PDGA is the current self-proclaimed one, but they spend soooo much money, so they have to make soooo much money... they're not a "non-profit" any more, they're just a "spend-all-the-profit".

the only things a sanctioning body needs to provide are: a set of rules, a set of tech standards, and some technology to manage the whole thing. Player ratings are a cool and well-liked part of that, but can be done extremely easily. There are enough brains and experience in this thread alone to accomplish all of that without trying too hard.

I think an organization should emerge that supports the SN-type model as a separate entity but offers a government for the sport. The PDGA is the current self-proclaimed one, but they spend soooo much money, so they have to make soooo much money... they're not a "non-profit" any more, they're just a "spend-all-the-profit".

the only things a sanctioning body needs to provide are: a set of rules, a set of tech standards, and some technology to manage the whole thing. Player ratings are a cool and well-liked part of that, but can be done extremely easily. There are enough brains and experience in this thread alone to accomplish all of that without trying too hard.



Excellent idea there Josh. Dave Covalt comes to mind when talking about brains. :cool:

Dave Covalt for president (of this as-yet un-formed and totally hypothetical organization)! :D

My-toe jam would likely 2nd that. :cool:

I think an organization should emerge that supports the SN-type model as a separate entity but offers a government for the sport. The PDGA is the current self-proclaimed one, but they spend soooo much money, so they have to make soooo much money... they're not a "non-profit" any more, they're just a "spend-all-the-profit".

the only things a sanctioning body needs to provide are: a set of rules, a set of tech standards, and some technology to manage the whole thing. Player ratings are a cool and well-liked part of that, but can be done extremely easily. There are enough brains and experience in this thread alone to accomplish all of that without trying too hard.



Josh,

All you need is for someone to take in the SN information, and create ratings. Why re-invent the wheel? SN already has it together except the ratings part, but with the Jerry Power TD spreadsheet, ratings are a snap!!!!!!!!!

Twin Oaks is only SN this year and if you noticed, the SN Championships are qualifiers. :eek: :D

Enough of this here....Sorry Brian, didn't mean to hi-jack your thread....Back to your regularly scheduled Mace Man Events!! :cool::cool:

insurrections will be put down :mad:

http://www.copleysociety.org/.library/Campbell_18x14_The_Insurrection_1200.U4687ddb97c9e b.jpg

Cox is like a trained seal. He is our puppet. As for Covalt, we didn't know that Dave was his pseudo name, come to find out his real name is Gideon!!!! (At least that explains the pink bow he wears under his KC hat.)


http://www.coxhistory.com/charles_grave.jpg

http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljeffe2/oldshiloh/MVC-204S.JPG

something tells me that MaceMan won't mind the hi-jack :D

I think that SN is on the right track... I just think that there should be a governing body that supports SN and any other "tour" type entities. Perhaps I just need to read more about SN.

I envision an organization that operates very cheaply and simply provides rules, standards, ratings, etc... but also allows other organizations to access and contribute to its player data. Compartmentalizing all competition aspects would make the governing body much more efficient. No headquarters would be necessary, very little budget review, a small board that only needs to meet online in a forum or over the phone via conference call... an organization for the members, by the members. One that would give players what they want from the sport, provide the organization necessary to coordinate a large number of events all over the nation, but do it all for very little money and therefore only need to generate very little money.

maybe it's a pipe dream, and maybe it does need its own forum... but I think there's something to the idea. I've heard ideas from a lot of people who have been around the sport for a long time and know what it takes to make something like this happen. I'll drop the subject here... but you people know how to get ahold of me if you want to discuss further :). I think I might have a forum somewhere that might need a new thread...

Start up this thread again
http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=778112&Main=607328#Post7 78112
I know its about Texas Disc Golf, PDGA doesn't care about Texas....no NT, no USDGC qualifing events. Why worry about the rest of the counrty.
Lets do whats best for Texas Golf most courses, most players,most tournaments and the PDGA favorite most fees paid.

Go for it, but I think it is a pipe dream. SN is nothing but a tour. Southern nationals does not do jack about rules, standards, ratings, competitive structure, vision, etc. People act like they are some noble alternative to the PDGA, but is nothing but a tour. If Brian wanted to not sanction his events, his North Texas Series would be completely analogous to the SN, just at a smaller scale.

Once you start saying "We can do rules, ratings, standards, etc.," you are right back on the road to forming a PDGA-like organization, with all the attendent warts and costs.

The Legend speaks. It was GREAT seeing you James. Not so sure i understand the jibberjabber that spills out of your pie hole though. :D

These people didn't let the weather enter into their decision to play the Mighty Z!! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7544#Open)

Very good point James. It is fine to question and wonder what is really going on, but it would be very easy to end up right back where we are.

There is a need to do things that are being done by the org, but there is a need for much more than that.

This game needs an overhaul from the bottom to the top.

The business is based on the "buddy it sure would be cool if you gave me that for nothing" principal, and that will get you nowhere but broke.

The "Sport" part of this game is still a bunch of people that are unwilling to be a richard and enforce the rules, and super unrealistic expectations on the return from participation in events in relation to the input.

And the government is about as powerful as the slogan pertaining to the city of Arlington TX on a bumper sticker..."There is no government like no government". Make a stand somewhere about something please.

My-bistro, finally it is out. Dave will be unable to hide it any longer. All will know his true identity as Hollywood has already told his story:

http://nohayrosasinespina.bitacoras.com/imagenes/c_connor_macleod.jpg

my_gyro: there is no "r" in the word "jibbajabba", foo.

James, I know there are alot of warts and costs, but there aren't as many costs as the PDGA would like you to believe. I think tours like SN should be supported and allowed to do their own thing. I don't think a sanctioning body should regulate things like payout structure. They also shouldn't directly compete in any market surrounding the sport other than the actual sanctioning part. They shouldn't run events themselves, they shouldn't sell merchandise, they shouldn't produce DVDs, they shouldn't back any one particular magazine... they shouldn't be involved in the business of the sport at all. What they *should* do is support any businesses or people that want to do these things.

Some of what the PDGA currently does is good. State coordinators are a great idea. Player ratings are also very popular.

I said I wasn't going to discuss any more here... I'll post a link to another forum soon.

Cox, Covalt, and a third wheel warming up before the round?

http://www.dogbehaviorrehab.com/images/dogs/dogsniff.jpg



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Two distinctly different conversations at the same time. :D

we can take one of those conversations over to: http://forums.titledisc.com/viewforum.php?f=22

They shouldn't run events themselves, they shouldn't sell merchandise, they shouldn't produce DVDs, they shouldn't back any one particular magazine... they shouldn't be involved in the business of the sport at all.


www.usga.org/championships/championship_info/amateur/amateur_championships.html (http://www.usga.org/championships/championship_info/amateur/amateur_championships.html)

https://www.usgacatalog.com/

www.usga.org/playing/handicaps/ClubLicensing/Index.html (http://www.usga.org/playing/handicaps/ClubLicensing/Index.html)

I don't know what your point is... just because the usga does it, then so should the pdga?

Ditto.

I haven't done the research but I have no reason to believe that most sanctioning associations in sports bigger than disc sports are in business deeper than the PDGA has been and should be. Golf is our closest relation and I just showed those as examples.

is the usga a "non-profit organization"?

From their website: The USGA is the not-for-profit governing body of the game of golf.

then I believe they are operating inappropriately. I don't think a not-for-profit organization should compete with businesses that operate exclusively within the scope of the thing the non-profit strives to benefit. It's one thing for them to offer logo shirts and hats as souvenirs or collectible merchandise. That's not direct competition.... but that's not really the point. I don't think governing bodies should be so big that they need to be in business. It creates a need for revenue that breeds a lot of other problems.

That's as far as I'm going on this thread. If you want to discuss more, head over to the link I posted above. It's fast, free, and you don't have to be a dues-paying member of any organization... imagine that.

HEY EAST COAST (AKA D. TULIP). Being around My-lipo all those years and the best you can hit Dave "Abs of Steal" with is "giggle?". Sir this thread is meant for the Giants of the sport and I hope you are able to come back better or get a refund from My-implants as Dave strikes fast and without mercy when provoked. Here is a shot of My-jello after their last confrontation: http://gothamist.com/attachments/jake/2006_12_jello2.jpg

you have been forewarned sir.

:cool:

my_gyro: there is no "r" in the word "jibbajabba", foo.

James, I know there are alot of warts and costs, but there aren't as many costs as the PDGA would like you to believe. I think tours like SN should be supported and allowed to do their own thing. I don't think a sanctioning body should regulate things like payout structure. They also shouldn't directly compete in any market surrounding the sport other than the actual sanctioning part. They shouldn't run events themselves, they shouldn't sell merchandise, they shouldn't produce DVDs, they shouldn't back any one particular magazine... they shouldn't be involved in the business of the sport at all. What they *should* do is support any businesses or people that want to do these things.

Some of what the PDGA currently does is good. State coordinators are a great idea. Player ratings are also very popular.

I said I wasn't going to discuss any more here... I'll post a link to another forum soon.



http://www.emoticonhq.com/images/Skype/clapping.gif

Two distinctly different conversations at the same time. :D



By the way Mr. Mace, has Big Time D.C. RSVP'd yet? Is there a current list of players for tomorrow event? :cool:

Check this out. (http://www.titledisc.com/prereg.php?eventid=304) I have heard from many people that are going to sign up out there. I think this will be a good one as mid-week attendance go's.

By the way, I need baskets really bad fo te temp course this weekend. Heavy weights only.

I have 2 in my garage. Just need you to come grab them.

Looks like at least four of us in OMB Chuckles.

Looks like at least four of us in OMB Chuckles.



But the "check this out" did not have my name or 2 others, (you and seabolt), listed. What's up? I am standing here scratching my head being very confused? Perhaps I should get guidance from Dave. Everyone knows he is good at providing clarity. :cool:

Where can I get a copy of Jerry's spreadsheet?

Change of subject... I'm just curious if anyone has posted something at the course (Zboaz) specifying that this event is pre-register only. I'm sure that some locals will try to show up Saturday morning, claiming they never read the message board!

Looks like at least four of us in OMB Chuckles.



But the "check this out" did not have my name or 2 others, (you and seabolt), listed. What's up? I am standing here scratching my head being very confused? Perhaps I should get guidance from Dave. Everyone knows he is good at providing clarity. :cool:


you didn't sign up on titledisc, so you're not on the titledisc list. c'est la vie ;)

(there's even a big, fat disclaimer at the top of that page explaining the situation)

I haven't paid Brian yet. I just told him to put me in. I'll be there.
How could I have forgotten about KCDAVE? At least 5 of us then.

Change of subject... I'm just curious if anyone has posted something at the course (Zboaz) specifying that this event is pre-register only. I'm sure that some locals will try to show up Saturday morning, claiming they never read the message board!


Is there anything posted there about the tournament? If there is, it should point them titleDISC for information, and titleDISC says that it's pre-reg only. HTH

Looks like at least four of us in OMB Chuckles.



But the "check this out" did not have my name or 2 others, (you and seabolt), listed. What's up? I am standing here scratching my head being very confused? Perhaps I should get guidance from Dave. Everyone knows he is good at providing clarity. :cool:


you didn't sign up on titledisc, so you're not on the titledisc list. c'est la vie ;)

(there's even a big, fat disclaimer at the top of that page explaining the situation)



K/C calls for patience here. I know that I did not sign up on title disc Josh. I was wondering if there were any other list that showed who was playing that paid Mace direct. Corncob (pan fried Teague) told me you might be a little bitter after he won the wager for the weekend. So tell me, how long do you have to wear that thong anyway? :cool:

I haven't paid Brian yet. I just told him to put me in. I'll be there.
How could I have forgotten about KCDAVE? At least 5 of us then.



As Lloyd did not remember Dave on Saturday and he still walks in peace, Dave, I'm certain, will forgive you to Mr. McDaniels. :cool:

Where can I get a copy of Jerry's spreadsheet?



You have to ask Jerry. :cool:

Can someone post the exact schedule for this weekend so we are all clear on what's going on. Thank You

Friday: Doubles
Saturday: Singles
Sunday: Singles

Is there a clinic at Bear Creek Thursday? Have heard Barry is going to be there.

Friday: Doubles
Saturday: Singles
Sunday: Singles



I think he's more interested in start times. Such as the Am's start at 7:30 am and will warm the course up for the Pro's. :eek: Although it might not really be too warm. :cool:

Friday: Doubles
Saturday: Singles
Sunday: Singles



I think he's more interested in start times. Such as the Am's start at 7:30 am and will warm the course up for the Pro's. :eek: Although it might not really be too warm. :p

Since I haven't let the cat all the way out of the bag yet, I will explain the way The Z Boaz Open will work for 2008.

Since I have done this more than a few times I have come to the conclusion that the event needs to be run in the following manner.

The event will be split into 4 pools. Pro, Adv A, Adv B, and Int/Rec. We will use the original and the temp on the north side of the tracks.

In order to pull this off it will require cooperation from all players (I realize that this is the toughest feat of all but I am confident you can do it). It will also require that all players that want to play this event be signed up by Friday, thats right you will have to be in the event before the day it starts.

Saturday will go like this. We will split the Adv pool into 2 groups and at 7:30 am Group A will play Z Boaz, Group B will play the temp. These pools will not exceed 54 players each (3somes). At approx. 10 AM the Pro Pool and the Int/Rec pools will hit the courses, these pools will be capped at 72 players (4somes). After that we will repeat the process.

At the end of the day on Saturday everyone will have 2 rounds in. Everyone will play one round of each on Saturday.

On Sunday 2 possible scenarios will take place, it depends on how many adv players sign up. If there is less than 90 adv players (witch I expect there will be) then the pools will be combined, and play the Original at 8:30 am on the original. If there is too many Adv players, we will keep them split and they will each play the Original one after the other. This will take a little longer to complete, but since they are small groups they will move through the course quickly. The Rec/Int pool will play the temp at the same time. This will be followed by the Pro pool starting around mid day (11am to 12ish). All of this will be followed by the Z Boaz Format Skins Match.



That is the info for this weekend.

I think that this is right as of a little while ago. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7544#Open) I missed Advanced Masters Pre-reg on the sheet. Sorry about that.

I don't know who I left off this time, but I do know that this is the last time I will update it today. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7544#Open)

84 players and growing! Excellent turnout for the mid week. Go Doggy Dog!

That is for Z Boaz, but the Mid-week has never had this much pre-reg!!

Oooooops. I'm tired.

I saw Charles chaseing this boy-girl after the round on Sunday.....can you say too many Black Keystone 's? http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/kokoljc/drag-queen-folsom-street-2.jpg



Hey Chuckles, Don't you wish your boyfriend was <font color="red"> hot </font> like me?

cware, can we get a weather report for zboaz this weekend, thanks man

the real weather:

Feb 13 Tomorrow
Mainly sunny. High 61F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph.

Feb 13 Tomorrow night
Clear skies. Low 44F. Winds S at 10 to 20 mph.

Feb 14 Thursday
Partly cloudy and windy. Highs in the upper 60s and lows in the mid 30s.

Feb 15 Friday
Showers possible. Highs in the low 40s and lows in the low 30s.

Feb 16 Saturday
Showers possible. Highs in the upper 30s and lows in the low 30s.

Feb 17 Sunday
Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the low 50s and lows in the mid 30s.

Feb 18 Monday
Mainly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s and lows in the upper 30s.

Don and Juli wanted me to post that they will not be able to come out this weekend to provide Don's bar-b-que. Juli said she had told some people they would be back out, so she wanted me to post that was an error.
Thanks.

Will the temp course be open for play before the tournament

Will the temp course be open for play before the tournament



I would say no Brice, the course will be out together early Saturday moring. If you put out the baskets friday they would not be there in the moring! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Results from The Mid-week Event. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7541#Open)

We have an official course record for the park. It is the same as the unofficial one, 48 by Geoff Bennett. Great shooting.

45 players, not too bad for a work day. Thanks to all that participated.

And now for the witch hunters, all am entry fee's were $35, all pro's paid $50. From that the following fee's were deducted, $2 PDGA, $2 to EDGE, $2 to the Food Bank, $3 to NTS Bonus Fund, and last but not least $4 to the city of Ft Worth. Now start the fire!!

I think what Brice wants to know along with many other is will it be marked. Flags and spraypaint and such. So?

Yes it will. If I can break away from the clinic, Featuring Barry Schultz at 11am at Bear Creek, I will mark it out tomorrow, if not first thing on Friday morning.

One more thing, the ace lives, $750 to start this weekend. It is never too cold for a big fat ace pot pay day!!

Way to go Kinter and congrats to Steve Sanders on his first am cash! And Charles, you still suck. :D

Where are all the z-boaz boys? Most of them played cedar hill. Why aren't they playing the home course?

To scared of all the casuals.

way to go chuckles, 3 victories in 3 weeks, wow, you must have had the angel dave covalt on your shoulder, good job sir.....

way to go troy, way to get your first win, knew you could do it....

Small update that includes a few locals. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7544#Open)

Way to go Troy! Taking home the first win.

Way to go troy...... WIN WIN!!!

not to shaby shabookie either, sa da tay /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Way to go Kinter and congrats to Steve Sanders on his first am cash! And Charles, you still suck. :D



Thanks Miles...

Spoke to some folks that don't know about the mando pre-reg due to the early start. It is the right thing to do anyway, BUT mandatory for this weekend.

What is that link to TitleDisc (http://www.titledisc.com) again ;)

Mighty Z is a comin' how about you?

Mighty Z is a comin' how about you?



And its bringing mother nature with it! http://www.forumsextreme.com/imgs1/sAng_badmood.gif

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WEATHER. The beard gets frazzled in cold rainy weather and i gotta keep it happy. See yall folks there.

Is one of the "hottest" (I am not just talking looks) disc golfers in the world part of the clinic? If E-Mac is in the area and not involved, that would be a shame. The dude is a serious BAD *****!

What about Geoff? He has probably that best sidearmer in the world.

Boro? He has a sick putt. I am sure there are a ton of people who would like to know how to hit metal on any putt that is less then 100 feet out.

Is one of the "hottest" (I am not just talking looks) disc golfers in the world part of the clinic? If E-Mac is in the area and not involved, that would be a shame. The dude is a serious BAD *****!

What about Geoff? He has probably that best sidearmer in the world.

Boro? He has a sick putt. I am sure there are a ton of people who would like to know how to hit metal on any putt that is less then 100 feet out.




Smitty, what the people want are doinked 20fters. Anyway if Barry is back I may have to get signed up.

Yeah smitty, get with the program! Doinks are all the rage these days.

some pics of porkchops wood mini basket. should be around for zboaz open
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Sounds like it is going to be a wet weekend!! I will be out there on Sat. morning with a limited supply of wet socks...20 bucks apiece. Get your's before they are gone. :cool:

Is one of the "hottest" (I am not just talking looks) disc golfers in the world part of the clinic? If E-Mac is in the area and not involved, that would be a shame. The dude is a serious BAD *****!



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Happy birthday big man! :D

Happy birthday Emac :D

I always thought that Eric was a VD baby.

Since I haven't let the cat all the way out of the bag yet, I will explain the way The Z Boaz Open will work for 2008.

Since I have done this more than a few times I have come to the conclusion that the event needs to be run in the following manner.

The event will be split into 4 pools. Pro, Adv A, Adv B, and Int/Rec. We will use the original and the temp on the north side of the tracks.

In order to pull this off it will require cooperation from all players (I realize that this is the toughest feat of all but I am confident you can do it). It will also require that all players that want to play this event be signed up by Friday, thats right you will have to be in the event before the day it starts.

Saturday will go like this. We will split the Adv pool into 2 groups and at 7:30 am Group A will play Z Boaz, Group B will play the temp. These pools will not exceed 54 players each (3somes). At approx. 10 AM the Pro Pool and the Int/Rec pools will hit the courses, these pools will be capped at 72 players (4somes). After that we will repeat the process.

At the end of the day on Saturday everyone will have 2 rounds in. Everyone will play one round of each on Saturday.

On Sunday 2 possible scenarios will take place, it depends on how many adv players sign up. If there is less than 90 adv players (witch I expect there will be) then the pools will be combined, and play the Original at 8:30 am on the original. If there is too many Adv players, we will keep them split and they will each play the Original one after the other. This will take a little longer to complete, but since they are small groups they will move through the course quickly. The Rec/Int pool will play the temp at the same time. This will be followed by the Pro pool starting around mid day (11am to 12ish). All of this will be followed by the Z Boaz Format Skins Match.



This event is indeed pre-reg only. I have only seen one player that was shocked about this. Please let everyone you know that is playing about the format....if the numbers don't grow too much we won't need the temp.

I will be out there on Sat. morning with a limited supply of wet socks...20 bucks apiece. Get your's before they are gone. :cool:



I am worried these wont be enough. If we get more then a light rain the creek at the Z starts to rise. If it rises more then a foot it makes crossing impossible without getting wet. Not to mention the parking lot is going to be a mess! Should be interesting to see what happens.

There is already more than a fair amount of players that aren't afraid of you constant weather updates Miles, do you have anything else on your mind?

Don't be Scared! Get signed up for ZBoaz now! It's always a great event, matter of fact, I've played in EVERY ZBoaz Open... Come on, what else are you going to be doing??

Way to go Kinter and congrats to Steve Sanders on his first am cash! And Charles, you still suck. :D



The Great Covalt is still considering charges for copyright infringement (using his alias-the natural) and piracy (your avatar of him). :cool:

Your not gonna bring that girl around this weekend are you Charles Covalt?

way to go chuckles, 3 victories in 3 weeks, wow, you must have had the angel dave covalt on your shoulder, good job sir.....

way to go troy, way to get your first win, knew you could do it....


Miles, now you could learn from Belgian Waffle. :cool:

Waffle, actually The Greatness was in my rear view mirror spurring me on. :cool:

Nice win Troy! Will this be the Keither last appearance in Int? Only the shadow knows. :cool:

Your not gonna bring that girl around this weekend are you Charles Covalt?



From Mr. Covalt with love :cool:

http://www.maddspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/cat-slap.jpg

Do you know when title disc will be shutting down?

The socks are just to keep your feet dry...it is up to you to protect everything else! If my shoulder wasn't injured I would be out there throwing a disc and enjoying the hell out of one great park and tourney...rain or no rain. :D

We broke 100! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7544#Open)

We broke 100! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7544#Open)



NICE!

Since I haven't let the cat all the way out of the bag yet, I will explain the way The Z Boaz Open will work for 2008.

Since I have done this more than a few times I have come to the conclusion that the event needs to be run in the following manner.

The event will be split into 4 pools. Pro, Adv A, Adv B, and Int/Rec. We will use the original and the temp on the north side of the tracks.

In order to pull this off it will require cooperation from all players (I realize that this is the toughest feat of all but I am confident you can do it). It will also require that all players that want to play this event be signed up by Friday, thats right you will have to be in the event before the day it starts.

Saturday will go like this. We will split the Adv pool into 2 groups and at 7:30 am Group A will play Z Boaz, Group B will play the temp. These pools will not exceed 54 players each (3somes). At approx. 10 AM the Pro Pool and the Int/Rec pools will hit the courses, these pools will be capped at 72 players (4somes). After that we will repeat the process.

At the end of the day on Saturday everyone will have 2 rounds in. Everyone will play one round of each on Saturday.

On Sunday 2 possible scenarios will take place, it depends on how many adv players sign up. If there is less than 90 adv players (witch I expect there will be) then the pools will be combined, and play the Original at 8:30 am on the original. If there is too many Adv players, we will keep them split and they will each play the Original one after the other. This will take a little longer to complete, but since they are small groups they will move through the course quickly. The Rec/Int pool will play the temp at the same time. This will be followed by the Pro pool starting around mid day (11am to 12ish). All of this will be followed by the Z Boaz Format Skins Match.



So, does Adv include all Advanced -- Adv Masters, Women, etc. Just making sure that I show up at the right time on Sat morning!

Screw these elite pros, I want to drink some brews and watch Cox :confused: VS Covalt VS O'Connell :cool:VS ClayDog :p in the pretty decent over 40 division final skins match.

Grand prize will be a twelver of Keystone Black, not saying Charles is favored or anything.

Is anyone going to take down Charles "who dat?" Cox III?
You do know that the III behind his name stands for his last three wins:
-Lewisville
-Cedar Hill
-Mid-Week

Get You Some!

I think Charles better stick with the reg. old Keystone LIGHT. The Keystone Ice may be a little strong for LIGHT hevyweight champ. :o:eek: :p Ice=Cox Kriptonite :D

Screw these elite pros, I want to drink some brews and watch Cox :confused: VS Covalt VS O'Connell :cool:VS ClayDog :p in the pretty decent over 40 division final skins match.

Grand prize will be a twelver of Keystone Black, not saying Charles is favored or anything.

Is anyone going to take down Charles "who dat?" Cox III?
You do know that the III behind his name stands for his last three wins:
-Lewisville
-Cedar Hill
-Mid-Week

Get You Some!



I am at a loss for words that someone, such as Mr. Yeti, would mention me in the same breath with "The Venerated Ones", (Mr. Dog, I do not throw that accolade at you as I know how much you loathe Mr. Covalt). Perhaps Mr. Yeti's vision of paying homage to the sports elder states people will someday be realized. Yes, someday when reach the Golden Era of Disc Golf, (we can shorten that up to GEDC). I thank you Mr. Yeti once again for your kind words, and may the spirit of K/C Dave shine on you and your wife the putting goddess, (A.K.A. Des). :cool:

I'll gladly take him down....as soon as he starts playing in the right division! :p :D

I think Charles better stick with the reg. old Keystone LIGHT. The Keystone Ice may be a little strong for LIGHT hevyweight champ. :o:eek: :p Ice=Cox Kriptonite :D



You know Mr. Robert Matthew Van Winkle, (you can't fool me, I knew that you used to do rap music back in 1990, or could he be your twin? http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/images/Vanilla_Ice.JPG ), as long as Dave is with me, Keystone black cannot make me a stumbling, fumbling, drunk off my left buttocks, babe magnet to hot republican women across north dallas, buffoon. But on the other hand, if he is clear across town and I am left to my own designs, all the above would likely occur (i am fairly certain that there were no hidden cameras that night and if there were, i disavow any actions that may or may not have been depicted by my doppelganger). :cool:

Don't try to bait me My-fiero: http://lamborghinireplica.com/PhotosInProgress3/card.jpg

(you looked better before your surgery by the way). You don't want me jumping from the stock tank I currently reside in.

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/gcu/lowres/gcun10l.jpg :cool:

Yes it does mean all Advanced.

Raffle tickets for what's in my car?

The guys that showed for the early clinic got the bonus of a round with Barry. We will do it again this afternoon at 3:30...the clinic that is.

Yes it does mean all Advanced.



Okay... I'll drag myself out of bed. But you can't expect me to be pleasant or social before around 9... just warning everyone!

Not everyone can be a social butterfly like myself. :-)

Not everyone can be a social butterfly like myself. :-)



That's only because you have super powers:

http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/img/w/WonderWoman.jpg

I think i've actually seen you wear those boots to a tourney before. :cool:

http://www.godzilla.stopklatka.pl/godz-pl/mothra.jpg
More like Mothra.

Not everyone can be a social butterfly like myself. :-)



Oh Snap!

There is already more than a fair amount of players that aren't afraid of you constant weather updates Miles, do you have anything else on your mind?



Its going to be very cold and could be very wet. Means we get to watch Charles slide around in the mud! :eek: Bad weather is never all bad! :D

Not everyone can be a social butterfly like myself. :-)



Oh... I see this as a challenge. You better be there at 7:30 Saturday morning to prove it!

Yes it does mean all Advanced.



Okay... I'll drag myself out of bed. But you can't expect me to be pleasant or social before around 9... just warning everyone!



You mean like yesterday.....Thank goodness we teed off after 10.

Your not gonna bring that girl around this weekend are you Charles Covalt?



This one?

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rotf lmao, haha lol :D :D

oh sorry adam, i didnt mean to laugh at the picture of your daughter,sorry dude... ;)

I have no children that are recognized by the courts DT :)

:D

Does registration close tonight or tomorrow? I heard no signups the day of but what about the day before?

Does registration close tonight or tomorrow? I heard no signups the day of but what about the day before?



Copy/Paste from TitleDISC

You will need to be PDGA current for 2008. This is a pre-registration-only event, no entries will be taken the day of the event. If you cannot pay online, please contact Brian Mace ( brian.maceman@att.net) or Joshua Dann (jdann@discgolfportal.com ) for help getting registered

Does registration close tonight or tomorrow? I heard no signups the day of but what about the day before?



Copy/Paste from TitleDISC

You will need to be PDGA current for 2008. This is a pre-registration-only event, no entries will be taken the day of the event. If you cannot pay online, please contact Brian Mace ( brian.maceman@att.net) or Joshua Dann (jdann@discgolfportal.com ) for help getting registered




I meant the titledisc registration? Does it close today? They usually take it off on the thursday before is why I ask.

Online entries for this event will close at approximately 09:00:00 PM, Friday February 15, 2008 or if the event becomes full.
(That is only 2 days away!)

Online entries for this event will close at approximately 09:00:00 PM, Friday February 15, 2008 or if the event becomes full.
(That is only <font color="red"> 1 </font> day away!)

it rounds up. eventually I'll find time to make that "only x days away" calculation more accurate... the important thing is that it gives you the date and time :)

Will the adv. players be playing the long, short or both sets of tees on the original course? I'm just wondering so I'll know what to play on Friday.

Will the adv. players be playing the long, short or both sets of tees on the original course? I'm just wondering so I'll know what to play on Friday.



Hey Curt, Have you got my PM's? Mace told me all Long...tough on a REC Player

Raffle tickets for what's in my car?



What he said.

Raffle tickets for what's in my car?



<font color="green"> Who would want a raffle ticket to win a mixed tape of 80's rock ballads, crumpled GPS printouts and "mystery towel?" :Dgiggle!</font>

I mean besides me? lol

updated weather forecast, not quite as fancy as seewhere's but it works. :D

Feb 15 Tomorrow night
Overcast with rain showers at times. Low around 40F. Winds NNE at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 60%.
Feb 16 Saturday
Showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 40s and lows in the low 40s.
Feb 17 Sunday
Windy with times of sun and clouds. Highs in the mid 50s and lows in the mid 30s.

don't forget they upgraded from 80 to 100% chance of heavy rain on saturday

There is already more than a fair amount of players that aren't afraid of you constant weather updates Miles, do you have anything else on your mind?



Its going to be very cold and could be very wet. Means we get to watch Charles slide around in the mud! :eek: Bad weather is never all bad! :D



http://www.ci.longmont.co.us/court/images/summons_back2.JPG

Beware young follower of Covalt. The next one could have your name on it. :cool:

Quote:
Will the adv. players be playing the long, short or both sets of tees on the original course? I'm just wondering so I'll know what to play on Friday.



Hey Curt, Have you got my PM's? Mace told me all Long...tough on a REC Player



I have been getting them, and thought I had responded to the latest one. I'll resend just in case though.

here's another topic for this many-topic'd thread :)

It's probably going to rain tomorrow. What do you guys think is the best rain gear for DG? D and I are heading to Bass Pro after work to load up on some rain gear.

I was thinking about water socks and maybe some nice waterproof shoes... what else do the esteemed members of this board recommend?

Go price the water socks at Bass Pro and then come see me for a pair of them at only 20 bucks. I will be there tomorrow morning around 7. :cool:

here's another topic for this many-topic'd thread :)

It's probably going to rain tomorrow. What do you guys think is the best rain gear for DG? D and I are heading to Bass Pro after work to load up on some rain gear.

I was thinking about water socks and maybe some nice waterproof shoes... what else do the esteemed members of this board recommend?



Go to the Duck Hunters area. Duck hunters are always either in or around the water and like to stay warm and dry. Think of your discs as Ducks floating in the water... :D:D:D:D

get some scotch guard and spray your bag and shoes

My favorite thing to where is ski pamts with the ruber type liner I have worn these in combination with wet socks and waded in knee high water and not got wet and they are great in the cold! I guess with the creek rising this weekend you could just get chest waders :DBass Pro shop als sells those tubes that you can float and fish out of :D

Go to Academy or maybe even Wal-mart and get a set of Frog-togs. I've had mine for 4 years and they work great. They were originally made for bass fisherman to stay dry out on the water.

Go to the Duck Hunters area. Duck hunters are always either in or around the water and like to stay warm and dry. Think of your discs as Ducks floating in the water... :D:D:D:D


there has been more than one occasion I've wanted to take a shotgun to my entire bag :D

Willy: I've bought a pair of water socks from you before and they served me well (until I ruined them). I think I want to try out the seal skinz this time though. definitely more expensive, but I think they will fit my size 13 feet a bit better :). Don't be surprised if I show up with a $20 bill tomorrow, though!

http://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/F0H/RUCQ/2BQEP2824UL/F0HRUCQ2BQEP2824UL.MEDIUM.jpg

Trashbag raincoat.....

PS dont do white trashbags.... The white pointy hat is kinda grand dragon style.

Frog Togs $39.95 - $49.95
http://image.basspro.com/images/images2/98500/98881-men.jpg

Just be sure to try on the top and pants, sometimes you have to mix sizes.

This is where we find out who is hard core and who has "car trouble".....or something. :D

I would like to remind everyone how good it will be to just play this weekend. One of my oldest cousins, only daughter was one of the victims of the shooting at Northern Illinois University yestrday. So when you are thinking about how bad it is going to be tomorrow, it is not really that bad at all, you will see Sunday and Monday and so on.....

sorry to hear about your cousin mace that truely SUXS. :confused: on a different note can you ensure Tony P leave Ft worth with a chair for me??? thanks

Is the format still the same for Saturday morning, where advanced is split into two groups and play the temp and orginal course at 730??

Yes I can.

any word on the contingency should a river run thru it on the back holes? :cool:

I am giving it considerable thought right now. We can overcome that creek.

There are a couple of different options. I will let you know as things progress.

BTW we are going to be stocked to the gills with great stuff that is obviously going to be too much with the weather related attendance. We will be running some special deals on clothing this weekend, so pick up an extra layer when you get here and save.

Very sorry to here about your cousin...our thoughts and prayers are with you and family.

Very sorry to here about you cousin...our thoughts and prayers are with you and family.



I 2nd two-forks sentiments as well Mr. Mace. By the way, you have a p/m.

any word on the contingency should a river run thru it on the back holes? :cool:

HIP WADERS ;)

Thoughts and prayers from here as well.

Actually Mace, you have no P/M after all. :cool:

I would like to remind everyone how good it will be to just play this weekend. One of my oldest cousins, only daughter was one of the victims of the shooting at Northern Illinois University yestrday. So when you are thinking about how bad it is going to be tomorrow, it is not really that bad at all, you will see Sunday and Monday and so on.....



What a shame, sorry to hear that Brian. I'll keep your cousin and the family in my prayers. I hope the shooter rots in he11.

Actually Mace, you have no P/M after all. :cool:



Are you sure that's a gun your smoking there Mr. Keystone?????? :D:D:D:D:D

Definately looks to be a little wet down there on the radar.

I would like to remind everyone how good it will be to just play this weekend. One of my oldest cousins, only daughter was one of the victims of the shooting at Northern Illinois University yestrday. So when you are thinking about how bad it is going to be tomorrow, it is not really that bad at all, you will see Sunday and Monday and so on.....


Its a crazy mixed up world we live in. Sorry to hear Mace.

This weekend is going to take total cooperation from everyone to make it happen. I don't know what to expect from today, but I have a feeling that I am not going to gain too many more players, if that remains true we will not use the temp course, just the original and the split pools.

If you have a basket bring it with you we may still need it. We can adjust to a different plan including a varied configuration that would include some holes on the north side of the tracks if we can't cross.

One more thing to consider, we obviously will not be able to drive off the pavement so carpooling is a must. If you can ride out with someone do so. Park nose in on the street and worst case park across Winscott in the parking lots there.

And Miles all those that didn't know already, now are fully aware that it is going to be nasty this weekend, so move on to a new subject please. Or maybe you should start you own weather thread and call it "Live from the department of redundancy department, your redundant weather report, with your host Miles Redundant Seaborn" . :D

if that remains true we will not use the temp course, just the original and the split pools.




Booyaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Miles all those that didn't know already, now are fully aware that it is going to be nasty this weekend, so move on to a new subject please. Or maybe you should start you own weather thread and call it "Live from the department of redundancy department, your redundant weather report, with your host Miles Redundant Seaborn" .



the forecast is actually starting to get a little better, now the temps are in the 50's (not 40's) and only a high chance for rain on Saturday, not Sunday.

Actually Mace, you have no P/M after all. :cool:



Are you sure that's a gun your smoking there Mr. Keystone?????? :D:D:D:D:D



My only response to the above is, yes, I must be smoking something as it is a well known fact that "Rain" not "Keystone black" tends to unravel me a bit. But as it is, Dave Covalt lectured me on how to prevail during trying times and rainy weather. "Just remember my son, you are not made of sugar, but are a lump of coal. Do you think the lump of coal fears H2O? NO IT DOES NOT!!!! And a good thing it is, that it doesn't, as a wet lump of coal is best suited to raise a knot on the back of someone's head when launched into a crowd." It is unfortunate that sensui Covalt will not likely be with us tomorrow as he believes his duties call for him to be at home praying for us all to be safe and dry. :cool:In addition, my loving wife pre-paid for a non-refundable room for me this weekend, so I might as well come out and try to find new ways to keep my ciggy's dry. :cool: I was just hearing on the radio that the possiblity of tornadic activity exist for tomorrow. Can someone tell me what disc is best suited for those conditions, stable or under stable? :cool:

Did Barry still come in for this one? I remember seeing Mace mention him yesterday. Wow! Props to all the traveling players, especially from other states that still came in despite the forcast. TRUE BALLAS!!

Who is Barry Shultz?

Not sure, but I have seen his name on a disc or two. ;) It is always cool to get to watch the touring players play on a local course. I am sure you are used to MTL living in NC and playing that many tournaments and playing open.

I've never seen Barry Shultz's name on a disc.

I'd love to see one.

Yes Barry is here. In fact the few people that showed up to yesterday mornings clinic at Bear Creek got a full round in w/ Barry.

It is Schultz.

ooooooooh Barry Schultz.

I know that guy.

... I was just hearing on the radio that the possiblity of tornadic activity exist for tomorrow. Can someone tell me what disc is best suited for those conditions, stable or under stable? :cool:



Stable.

Sorry to here about your family Bro. Thoughts and prayers for all involved.

Now then, it looks as if all we really need to do is get Charles and Covalt to bless us with sunshine.. :D

According to the PDGA Tour registration for Z-Boaz, I am now a 1027 rated player that moved to Wisconsin. I will take that 1000+ rating however I can get it.

Not anymore Brice!! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7544#Open)

Can someone tell me what disc is best suited for those conditions, stable or under stable?



Over-stable, until it goes through the tornado, then understable

The Devil Hawk. :D

The Devil Hawk. :D



A first run Devil Hawk!!

Does anyone need a partner for doubles today ? I'm fixin to leave my house to go pay some bill's. I will be in the area away from a computer so if anyone's interested give me a call on my cell 817-707-0267 [Darren}

Okay, I just want to make sure I understand 100% where I need to be at what time tomorrow! So, to my understanding, tee off is at 7:30 for advanced players. Is there going to be any type of short players meeting before this to go over what holes we are going to play? If so, what time will this be? Also, will there be a second players meeting for the 10:00 crowd? If so, what time does that start? Sorry for all the questions, just want to make sure I'm clear on what is going on!

Hey Heidi Mace said last weekend that there was no meeting rules are on the cards and it will probably be set up like last week where each player picks up there pre made card under assigned hole.

Sorry to here about your family Bro. Thoughts and prayers for all involved.

Now then, it looks as if all we really need to do is get Charles and Covalt to bless us with sunshine.. :D



Dave is working on bringing some heat in for everyone.

http://photo.tamaldas.com/images/20070203005614_dscf0232.jpg

:cool:

:(That looks like what was happening here close to my house Wednesday afternoon. Several large range fires sprang up around 3:00, and by 4:00 the police were crusing through my neighborhood asking people to evacuate. Scary times indeed! The mixture of very dry conditions, high wind speeds, and stupid people with matches (or cigarettes) is extremely dangerous!

Hey Mace!

I just got home from work and learned Marie's making meatloaf for dinner! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif She baked cookies, too....

Good luck on your tourney! Wish I could be there, but instead, I'll eat an extra portion for the boazman... :D

Weather update for Mace! :D

Saturday High of 81 Lo of 66, partly clowdy. Winds light and variable.
Sunday High of 80 Lo 65, clowdy. Winds ligh...... oh wait, thats Honolulu. Here it still looks crappy! :D

If anyone is interested in the FLX Drones come see me this weekend at ZBoaz! I've got a few to sale.

If anyone is interested in the FLX Drones come see me this weekend at ZBoaz! I've got a few to sale.



I just picked up 2 from Hero and they are sweet they are twice as stable as my Pro D Drone at least for this noodle arm :DWhat are your thought on the flx Drone?

These are the hard core GOLFERS!! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7544#Open)

You are correct Heidi, you need to be at the course ready to play at 7:30, and now you have a division of 4. There will be a small sheet that will be with your groups card and it will have all the info you need, if the info isn't there it will be on the back of your score card.

Now that i've got mine and my son's I'll let you know that Academy has "Frogg Toggs" pant and jacket sets for $19.99
Great price and awsome deal. No Seal skins though

Mace, I'll be there at 7 AM with my basket for you

Yep, too cold and wet for me. I will stay at home and take a bath. I got a new set of bubble bath scents.

If anyone is interested in the FLX Drones come see me this weekend at ZBoaz! I've got a few to sale.



I just picked up 2 from Hero and they are sweet they are twice as stable as my Pro D Drone at least for this noodle arm :DWhat are your thought on the flx Drone?



I loving it! Yes, it's twice as stable as the D. FLX Drone will come in really handy on those windy days!

let me know if you want one or two!!

If anyone is interested in the FLX Drones come see me this weekend at ZBoaz! I've got a few to sale.



I just picked up 2 from Hero and they are sweet they are twice as stable as my Pro D Drone at least for this noodle arm :DWhat are your thought on the flx Drone?



I loving it! Yes, it's twice as stable as the D. FLX Drone will come in really handy on those windy days!

let me know if you want one or two!!





Good luck this weekend Sprout! Clean up all the BS this weekend.

A BS Sweep!

I missed a couple of ya. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7544#Open) Looking like.....43 minutes to a decision.

Hand warmers and long-handles a plenty tomorrow boys and girls. gonna be gruesome.

Can't sweep if you don't play them all, Geoff Bennett won Wednesday.

It is now official no temp. We will put 134 of you through the Might Z Tomorrow. Come and get it.

So how is that gonna work Brian? Still 2 different start times?

The Rain is Here!!

Schedule is still the same. Just no Temp Course. I still need you to bring your basket, and 3 others counting Steve, and Cold Toe as 2 of the 3.

Ok, No problem. We will be there bout 7. But our groups will not start till 10 right? Are you gonna try and make it a 21 or 22 hole course?

Schedule is still the same. Just no Temp Course. I still need you to bring your basket, and 3 others counting Steve, and Cold Toe as 2 of the 3.



Brian,

Curt Youngblood will be bring my basket, what time does he need to be there?

I'm getting the sleep Heidi is giving up.

I'm thinkin by 7 Steve. The pro pools are starting at 7:30

I'm thinkin by 7 Steve. The pro pools are starting at 7:30


nope pro pools 10 tee right???

All Advanced plays at 7:30.

All Pro Divisions, Int, and Rec will play around 10 am.

From what i understood from earlier posts is that the pro and advanced tee off @ 7:30 and noonish. am pools @ 10 ish. i could be wrong though

From all the hail talk i think hard hats might be in order

Basket will be there at 7:00

You are wrong.

Look up.

You are wrong.



hilarious. look up. That is thread genius right there Mace. Manana Hombre.

like I said i could be wrong. Looking up now. I'll still have the basket there for you at 7

Can't sweep if you don't play them all, Geoff Bennett won Wednesday.

It is now official no temp. We will put 134 of you through the Might Z Tomorrow. Come and get it.



Some people have jobs though Mace. Anyway good job on only playing the Z

I was referring to Eric. His job is golfing. He was absent on Wednesday. Therefore no sweep.

I was referring to Eric. His job is golfing. He was absent on Wednesday. Therefore no sweep.



BS isn't Big Show anyway. :DKick Barry's arse. :D

Good luck to ALL!!!!! This ought to be a fun one, wish I was there.

Got out to the Mighty Z at 8ish I left at 10ish and the advanced card that came by the tent said they had played 8 holes... they started at 730 :DGood Luck to all this weekend enjoy the time away from work :D

they just finished a few minutes ago :)

LONG WET ROUND