Congrads to Sam Nicholson for his sponsor's exemption to the USDGC thorugh his business at Substation II deli here in Charlotte. Sam has been a contributor, not only to the USDGC, but to the Charlotte Disc Golf Club for decades now. He has been a major player and a driving force that has made disc golf what it is in the Charlotte area. Sam is an extremely funny and intellingent and generous man that I am proud to call my friend. My regrets to any club that does not have a man of the character and integrity and loyalty and work ethic of Sammy. Thanks for all the years of dedication my friend. I hope to battle with you on the links of Winthrop this year. Your friend, Stan

Congrats to Sam and to all the mules!

A lot of folks do not realize how much work is involved in gaining sponsorship and maintaining top caliber courses.

You guys are class acts!

Deano... :cool:

YEaherrr...How many stars is that now SAm?

almosTT nine

Why did the DGC get moved up a week this year? It's messing all kinds of things up...

Just a guess but Winthrop U plays a big part in the timing based on school activities.

Congrads to Sam Nicholson for his sponsor's exemption to the USDGC thorugh his business at Substation II deli here in Charlotte. Sam has been a contributor, not only to the USDGC, but to the Charlotte Disc Golf Club for decades now. He has been a major player and a driving force that has made disc golf what it is in the Charlotte area. Sam is an extremely funny and intellingent and generous man that I am proud to call my friend. My regrets to any club that does not have a man of the character and integrity and loyalty and work ethic of Sammy. Thanks for all the years of dedication my friend. I hope to battle with you on the links of Winthrop this year. Your friend, Stan



well said Stan... Congrats Sam!

The date change coincided with a school calendar change by our hosts, Winthrop University.

Another change for folks to note is a modification to the tie-breaking procedure at the USDGC Qualifying events. TDs can now choose the option of awarding the tied spot to the lowest final round score. Full details for USDGC qualifying can be found at usdgc.com.

Take care,
Harold

Thanks Harold.

Is there an established list of Qualifiers for the Open this year? It is already May and the USDGC site still has info for last year. Thanks to anyone with info who responds.

http://www.usdgc.com/qualifyingevents.htm

geTTin closer

This is your year Schweb!!!

hope so

year of the mullet

2 months from the best tourney in golf

I'm in. What a relief. Thanks to Sprague and AO!

As the Pro Worlds wrapped up last week I let Chuck know that I could help with figuring out the qualifiers. One of my best friends was on the bubble so we were very excited to figure it out once Worlds was done.

These are NOT official because it is just me doing it (with assistance from the "Eligible Competitors" file dated 7.27.07. Here is what I found out (assuming they are taking 5 from Worlds):

Brent Baartman (WI)
Robbie Bratten (TX)
Michael Olse (TX)
Mike Schwieger (WI)
Chris Heeren (WI)

Congrats to the mullets who qualified.

C YOU THERE

Congrats to Bratten for getting the spot.

I'm in. What a relief. Thanks to Sprague and AO!



..And to Chase for living in Illinois.

As the Pro Worlds wrapped up last week I let Chuck know that I could help with figuring out the qualifiers. One of my best friends was on the bubble so we were very excited to figure it out once Worlds was done.

These are NOT official because it is just me doing it (with assistance from the "Eligible Competitors" file dated 7.27.07. Here is what I found out (assuming they are taking 5 from Worlds):

Brent Baartman (WI)
Robbie Bratten (TX)
Michael Olse (TX)
Mike Schwieger (WI)
Chris Heeren (WI)



Nice Robbie B and Mike "Apollo" Olse :D

CONGRADULATIONS!!!

<font color="red"> MY MONEY IS STTILL ON TTHE MULLETT !! </font> :cool:

http://www.usdgc.com/qualifyingevents.htm



That link gives me a "Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn't here." error.

http://www.usdgc.com/qualifyingevents.htm



That link gives me a "Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn't here." error.




TRY THIS ! (http://usdgc.com/qualifying-tournaments/)

Yea Texicans! Way to make the cut...see ya in Rock Hill!

I'm having no luck on a few Rocs so hear I am. I'm looking for 2002 yellow and pink in 180 and a 2003 ODOC stamp 180.
Thanks for any help. I have tried the eqmt thread no help.
The 2008 Rocs will be out in OCT. Sweet
Thanks Ron

Will there be any changes to course this year? If so, what are they?

I signed up a long time ago...Now i am etting nervous that you didnt get me stuff...please let me know, thnks

I took the Montana state representative spot a few days before worlds started, but then would have qualified from worlds...there's no way to "un-take" the state spot and use my worlds USDGC qualification so that someone else could take the state spot, right?

I took the Montana state representative spot a few days before worlds started, but then would have qualified from worlds...there's no way to "un-take" the state spot and use my worlds USDGC qualification so that someone else could take the state spot, right?



I was able to give up my TX state rep spot when i found out that i could not make it in 2004

The State Rep spot ultimatley comes down to who the SC for that state says it is. I think there might be somekind of deadline if I remember tho.

The deadline is past

Looking forward to this bad boy this year...Sticking to the game plan this year...

2004- 150th
2006- 115th
2007- ?

Will there be any changes to course this year? If so, what are they?



bump

How is it that we are 1 month away from the best event in our sport and no one is talking about it?

How is it that we are 1 month away from the best event in our sport and no one is talking about it?



I agree, my son and I look forward to this event all year. it's our time to be a spectator.

How is it that we are 1 month away from the best event in our sport and no one is talking about it?



I agree, my son and I look forward to this event all year. it's our time to be a spectator.



I agree,...


<font color="blue"> THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING !, THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING ! </font> :D

I can't wait just 4 Weeks away and I will be in Charlotte playing the Charlotte Open and then USGDC :)

I am also "Pumped", as i will be playing in my first USDGC. It will be a memorable experience to say the least!

How is it that we are 1 month away from the best event in our sport and no one is talking about it?



No kidding, it's the only thing i'm focused on, everything else is just practice/preparation.

Anything different with the course this year? :confused:

I am also "Pumped", as i will be playing in my first USDGC. It will be a memorable experience to say the least!



I can second that statement, my first also. :D

No kidding, it's the only thing i'm focused on, everything else is just practice/preparation.

Anything different with the course this year? :confused:



Only new course feature I am aware of is the big wall on the back of the baseball field (no more hyzers over the field)

The fence fills the area between the two center lightposts, and is about as high.
http://www.winthropeagles.com/upload/article48_Field_002.jpg

whoops. that photo was not that big when I viewed it online!

No kidding, it's the only thing i'm focused on, everything else is just practice/preparation.

Anything different with the course this year? :confused:



Only new course feature I am aware of is the big wall on the back of the baseball field (no more hyzers over the field)

The fence fills the area between the two center lightposts, and is about as high.




****! I was thinking about going over the ball diamond this year...oh well, I'll play it the same.

Which hole would this come into play?

Hole 9. Righty hyzer drives sometimes went over the outfield fence. Sometimes never to return. Now you pretty much would have to throw a straighter low drive to land in bounds.

Hmmmmm two weeks to send in my money...I wonder if I'm going?

Come on down miTTenZZ

Who do you think will qualify on Monday? Anyone know who will be showing up to qualify?

P.S. I'm not trying to get my nmae on this list, I'm just curious.

Im still looking at a few options to get in but if those fall through I will be playing a Monday Qualifying round!!!

Who do you think will qualify on Monday? Anyone know who will be showing up to qualify?

P.S. I'm not trying to get my nmae on this list, I'm just curious.



Supposedly the Oregon State Rep is getting his way paid by Feldberg So he can Monday Qualify /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif...since his name didnt get turned in on time AND he was not allowed to enter... :o

That is too bad, who is iTT?

Shooter is registered. :)

Im pretty sure it was down to Tyler Christiansen &amp; Nate Holcomb..

I think Tyler got the spot....after his win at the Lava Launch

does anyone remember what scores where shot on monday last year to get in?

68 got in. 69 was a 3 way playoff for the last spot.

Last year there were 8 spots available on Monday. Pretty sure it's gonna be firmly 5 this year.

thanks matt. the web site lists 5 spots available i think i shot like 84 last year on spectator day my first time playing the course. wasn't par like 67?

68 is par.

Matt remembers so vividly because he was in that 3-way tie for the final spot with a 69.

No worries about that this year, though. Don't forget to carry your camera!

-Dave

Who thinks there is some stroke shaving going on in these quailfiers? I mean what stops 3-4 guys going out together, and shave some strokes for there buddy. Last year, in the last grouping of the day, 4 guys walked up all from NC who knew eachother, they said they all wanted to play together because they were friends. They let them do it, and I had to play in a 2 some with an offical.

That doesn't bother me, what sounds fishy is that 1 or 2 of them got in with a low score. I 'm not calling ANYONE a cheater, but what stops these groups from getting there buddy in the USDGC??

moral's

So Cale doen't get in because he didn't get his entry in by Aug 1st...! What sucks most about this is he was NOT informed as to when the deadline was...

So Cale doen't get in because he didn't get his entry in by Aug 1st...! What sucks most about this is he was NOT informed as to when the deadline was...



the same thing happened to JJ last year.

He can "re-qualify"

If he goes and Monday qualifies, he's in.

This is one of my biggest gripes / loves about the USDGC.

I love the fact that they stick to thier word and don't change it for anyone. However, I hate the fact that you can re-qualify b/c that takes the spot from someone else.

But then shouldn't his MSDGC Win count for that??

It's tough because you can only qualify once during the season and if you forget to send in your $200+ entry fee within 30 days you are screwed.

Cale should have no problem qualifying before the tournament. You know he will make his money back once he spends $50 to qualify.

the same thing happend to ray johnson. he was [censored] I talked to him yesterday.
i don't Understand why they wern't informed, but TD's of any "big" tournament are allowed to play via exemption.
THIS IS BS.
THIS TOURNAMENT IS NOT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO RAN TOURNAMENTS. ITS ABOUT CROWNING A UNITED STATES CHAMPION!

The good players should be able to get in and compete.
thats all.

Its crazy that a 68 is par... almost a four-per-hole. Man I can't wait to get down there, probably next year, and play that course on Spectator day... I watch the video I have downloaded of the 2005 Final Round weekly.

((i also can't wait to qualify in 2009...))

I think you mean major TDs are offered the chance to be donators. Thank you, but not this year. Those 'good players' already got my pound of flesh and a lot more at Highbridge. Cale was the second last player to pay his Worlds entry fee a few hours before the deadline so it's not like he was flush with cash just before Aug 1st.

What really sucks is that people who already qualifyed are going to take up Monday spots because they simply forgot to pay the money!!! Which I think is BS!!! If you qualifyed and didnt pay your money I dont think you should be able to just show up monday and REQUALIFY!!! Arent those spots supposed to be for people who HAVE NOT previously qualifyed??? I mean heck last year I qualifyed at the USADGC and I had the money to spend in the 30 days I had to pay!!! And if I didnt I would not expect to be able to just REQUALIFY!!!

thought the 30 days was common knowledge (http://www.usdgc.com/files/2007qualify.pdf)

who needs to inform you? the information is out there. take some responsibility for yourself.

And if you played at a qualifier any time before August 1st, you probably heard Yeti announcing you to "Get your registration in! You have 30 days!"

If your name had a sticker next to it, and you didn't already "qualify", I would thin you'd maybe find out when you have to register by. Or at least ask someone who might know at an awards ceremony.

It happens every year. Never fail.

State representatives also have to be PAID by August 1st, even though they do not need to announce who will take the state spot until later.

Yes, the 30 days notice is common knowledge,...however, Cale qualified by being top 10 on the money list last year, not a tournament.

exactly, but he'd probably notice early in the year that he didn't have to "qualify" and should have figured out what he needed to do to reserve his spot. I know he's pretty new to the tour and I'm sure he'll never forget to register anymore. :)

So 8 months was not long enough to find out about When you were supposed to register for the most important tourney of the year.

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the same thing happened to JJ last year.





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<font color="blue"> Totol BuLL[censored] !!!</font>



What really sucks is that people who already qualifyed are going to take up Monday spots because they simply forgot to pay the money!!! Which I think is BS!!! If you qualifyed and didnt pay your money I dont think you should be able to just show up monday and REQUALIFY!!! Arent those spots supposed to be for people who HAVE NOT previously qualifyed??? I mean heck last year I qualifyed at the USADGC and I had the money to spend in the 30 days I had to pay!!! And if I didnt I would not expect to be able to just REQUALIFY!!!



<font color="blue"> c/s </font>

You'd think there'd be some kind of invitation letting you know you're in, and when the money is supposed to be in.

If I hadn't been on top of it the state rep deadline would have come and gone. I didn't get any notification.

Two years ago Innova was supposed to pay Micah's entry, and they "forgot"...sorry Micah, you can fly across the country and try to re-qualify...bogus.

Cale doesn't use the internet so I can see part of the problem.

You'd think if they pdga can send out hundreds of invitations for Worlds, USDGC could do the same for at least the players who don't have to qualify via tournaments.

I'm just glad I have a job that lets me play on the internets :)

Don't forget to thank Al for inventing the internet too.

You would think that if you knew that you qualified, you would take whatever steps to get your entry in. With all due respect to Cale, he should take the initative to find out as soon as possible what it takes to get into the event. We as adults should take responsibilty to take care of things ourselves, the USDGC has never sent letters to anyone reminding them to pay as far as I know.

The shame of Cale having to qualify is that there will be one less spot for someone else to get in, because it's guaranteed he makes the field.

It's a shame that it's allowed to happen at all. If a player qualifies earlier in the year, that should be their only chance to get in. SuperMutant Pro's that REqualify on Monday take spots from other people that really deserve the chance to get into the USDGC.

Hind sight is 20/20. I didn't take advantage of my first 2 invites(2000,2001). Finally decided to go in 2002 and 2003 and was almost sick to my stomach for missing my first 2 chances after experiencing the best tournament the sport offers. Sadly i had to give up my TX State Rep spot in 2005 due to a work project, but that enabled Alex Hughes to go, and i know he really appreciated my work. :D

Moral of the story, GET YOUR MONEY IN THE DAY AFTER YOU QUALIFY!

I wonder if it would work for Harold if each person who qualified before but has to come for Monday qualifying would add one more place to the number who qualify on Monday? If Cale and two other pre-qualifiers enter on Monday, then 8 spots would be available. This still puts some pressure on these pre-qualifiers to requalify, doesn't take away the opportunity for those who are legitimately trying to still get in and wouldn't add any more players to the USDGC than were potentially going to play anyway. It's still a hassle for these pre-qualifiers who didn't get their money in so no one is really going to want to do this as a regular procedure. But at least it doesn't penalize those who didn't originally qualify and made the extra effort and paid the travel price to try and get in on Monday.

I agree that if you don't get your entry in on time, that you should have to wait until the next year and try again.

I wonder if it would work for Harold if each person who qualified before but has to come for Monday qualifying would add one more place to the number who qualify on Monday? If Cale and two other pre-qualifiers enter on Monday, then 8 spots would be available. This still puts some pressure on these pre-qualifiers to requalify, doesn't take away the opportunity for those who are legitimately trying to still get in and wouldn't add any more players to the USDGC than were potentially going to play anyway. It's still a hassle for these pre-qualifiers who didn't get their money in so no one is really going to want to do this as a regular procedure. But at least it doesn't penalize those who didn't originally qualify and made the extra effort and paid the travel price to try and get in on Monday.



I haven't done the math on this, but I suspect between all the tournament qualifiers, TDs, state reps, and sponsor exemtions, there are more people qualified for the USDGC than Harold can actually put in the tournament. This means just because you qualify doesn't mean you have a guaranteed spot in the tourney UNLESS you follow through and get your entry in on time.


Overbooking (over-inviting in this case) is done for Worlds as well. There are more people invited to Worlds every year than the tournament can possibly hold, because we know not everyone will register for the event.

Chap

One drawback to Chuck's suggestion is that Cale won't really learn from his error. Pain is a great teacher. I agree that it's a shame that Cale will take someone else's spot. I don't think it's a good precedent for Harold to make exceptions just so a super star can play. Once that starts where will he draw the line without great controversy and emotional reactions that will take tons of his time and energy to sort out? It's not worth it. The rules are very clear.

the USDGC has never sent letters to anyone reminding them to pay as far as I know.



But they should, and very easily could, for the top 20 and top money winners from the previous year.

It's the little things :D

It would be nice if they did in the future, but it does not help now.

I have no problem with the USDGC being very strict on their deadline dates.

However, allowing players to re-qualify is absolute crap. The "best" tournament in the world still has lots of flaws, imo.

We all have to earn the right to play, we just have to follow the rules. I feel they should make the an example for the future. No disrespect to Cale.

Hush up Craigy. :p

Whatever Johnny! You are just saying that because you can't make it this year!

:mad:! :D

It would be nice if they did in the future, but it does not help now.



I agree 100%.

By my count, I have about another 15 days to get my money in if I'm going...

get it in you mullet

Who thinks there is some stroke shaving going on in these quailfiers? I mean what stops 3-4 guys going out together, and shave some strokes for there buddy. Last year, in the last grouping of the day, 4 guys walked up all from NC who knew eachother, they said they all wanted to play together because they were friends. They let them do it, and I had to play in a 2 some with an offical.

That doesn't bother me, what sounds <font color="red"> fishy </font> is that 1 or 2 of them got in with a low score. I 'm not calling ANYONE a cheater, but what stops these groups from getting there buddy in the USDGC??



<font color="blue"> sJUr sounds like you're calling me a cheater</font>

Who thinks there is some stroke shaving going on in these quailfiers? I mean what stops 3-4 guys going out together, and shave some strokes for there buddy. Last year, in the last grouping of the day, 4 guys walked up all from NC who knew eachother, they said they all wanted to play together because they were friends. They let them do it, and I had to play in a 2 some with an offical.

That doesn't bother me, what sounds <font color="red"> fishy </font> is that 1 or 2 of them got in with a low score. I 'm not calling ANYONE a cheater, but what stops these groups from getting there buddy in the USDGC??



<font color="blue"> sJUr sounds like you're calling me a cheater</font>



I may not get along with cuTT, but one thing I will def. say, the dude is a great golfer and is no where close to a cheater.

Who thinks there is some stroke shaving going on in these quailfiers? I mean what stops 3-4 guys going out together, and shave some strokes for there buddy. Last year, in the last grouping of the day, 4 guys walked up all from NC who knew eachother, they said they all wanted to play together because they were friends. They let them do it, and I had to play in a 2 some with an offical.

That doesn't bother me, what sounds fishy is that 1 or 2 of them got in with a low score. I 'm not calling ANYONE a cheater, but what stops these groups from getting there buddy in the USDGC??



Obviously you didn't do your homework before you made this statement, so I'll help you out and fill you in on a couple of facts.
1st off we ran the Monday qualifier from it's beginning, although last year was more of a supivisory role. And it just so happens that last year I followed the group you spoke of on a cart for 16 of the holes.
2nd I'm guessing you didn't check the web updates from last years qualifier either. If you did then you'll know that the group you spoke of tried to qualify more than once. 3 times for one and 4 for the other if I remember correctly. Would have been easier for them to "shave" strokes early in the morning when an official wasn't watching thier every move.
Last point is even if someone showed up early and shaved a couple of strokes that in no way quarantees you a spot. Happens every year where somone thinks thier score is good enough only to lose thier spot to someone in the last couple of groups. And somone is always watching. The course is filled with workers and volunteers all day on Monday. You just don't know you're being watched.


Which brings me to Cale and people thinking his Monday spot is a sure thing. I've seen alot of great players come through on Monday for various reasons. I've also seen alot of great players leave Monday night without a spot. There's more presure on Monday than for the actual tournament. Weather is no quarantee and there's always that little thing I talked about before. Show up early, shoot a good round, and think it's enough only to find yourself on the bubble and being too late to get that last round in. This makes the USDGC Monday qualifier the most intense event in our sport. Good luck to everyone trying this year.

Nikko is going to take a Monday spot to...He missed his deadline

Nice use of the wegian....

Tiger Woods still has to pay his entry fees, but his spot is guaranteed as his presence means big money for the sponsors and the PGA. I am sure that his sponsors pay his entry making sure that they benefit from having him on their team (I understand that there is a lot more money involved and available to the PGA tour players). Point being, I think the top 50 players in the World should have an automatic exemption into all PDGA Majors. They should be responsible to pay their entry fees, but in Cale's case (as one of the top five players in the WORLD), and one of Discraft's top team players, shouldn't Discraft make sure that he is in the USDGC? Cale and Nate's entry fees should be handled by their primary sponsor, Discraft, because they encourage other players to use their products through promotion and good play.

Players should be taken care of by their sponsors, allowing them to focus on disc golf = tournament play and practice. Maybe the premier sponsors in disc golf don't quite see the benefits. I understand that the player should take on responsibility, but are there not Team Managers that handle important details such as making sure that all of their elite players are in the major championships? After all, if a Discraft player wins the USDGC that means more money for the company and Cale has a good chance of making that happen. I don't get it...

I am not going to speak for any sponsor as to what they will and will not do. I do know this for a fact though.
In 2004 Cam finished tied for 2nd thus qualifying him for 2005. However he effectively went into retirement soon after the 2004 USDGC. In 2005 he didn't get his money in on time. Before the Monday qualifier Jonathan and ourselves received a phone call from Keith at Discraft saying Cam would be down on Monday to qualify and to basically run a tab for whatever Cam needed as far as rounds fees go or USDGC entry fees. Unfortunately he decided not to try and qualify.

Having sponsored players and working with top sponsored players I do know that they usually get what they ask for, to a reasonable extent. I'm sure if Cale had asked that Discraft would have payed his way in and secured his spot. Once again though the responsability falls on the player. Looks as though he has to try and qualify like everyone else. Bet he learns a lesson for next year.

Bet he learns a lesson for next year.



Ill bet he smashes people. Id also bet if he does the same thing next year, he'll show up on Monday and smash people all over again.

Bet he learns a lesson for next year.



Ill bet he smashes people. Id also bet if he does the same thing next year, he'll show up on Monday and smash people all over again.



That's the attitude! Screw qualifying tournaments! Being just slightly responsible for ourselves, no way! Lets just have a Monday qualifier for all of the players. :p

sounds fine to me
that way there would be a bunch of added money

TTrue.

Will we only have one stamp at the USDGC on the Rocs?
still looking for a 2002 yellow Roc 180 and pink.

is the # of monday spots related to the number of people who don't send in their money? is there a limit to the # of monday qualifiers that they will have?

last year, they added 3 spots, to better fill the field. I do not think that will be the case this year.

For those who don't have to qualify on Monday, you may want to take a break and head to the US National Whitewater Center for a little whitewater rafting. Their recirculating man made river system will offer 2 hours of fun for about $30 a person. They also have a rock wall, and are lust a cool place to hang out, get a bite to eat, have a drink and generally relax. It's about 35 minutes up the road just off I-85. www.usnwc.org (http://www.usnwc.org)

5 spots are available for the Monday Qualifying.

Is there a Caddie Book available this year? I didn't see one on the website.

Tanner, Are you driving or flying this year?

I'm looking for a way there...

Caddie book will be posted when the course is finalized. We have to work around Winthrop and make sure none of the holes interfere with anything.

Werd sun

Anyone looking for a room mate for the week? I do plan on qualifying on Monday and being there for the whole week!

so correct me if i am wrong but i think 68 was the worst score to get in last year. what do you see the worst score being this year? given we do not know all the changes that will be made but lets speculate for fun

68 got in with taking 8 as opposed to 5. That is a big key.

exactly

I see the highest score to make it in this year will be a 71.

And i think Schwebe will take the ring.

Appreciate the Vote of confidence.

67 will be the worst to get in. This year

67 huh yeah i was thinking it was going to be lower this year with all the power houses that still have not registered and their being only 5 spots. i mean nikko leyva cale there should be some interesting action on monday.

I think somebody good is not going to shoot well enuff to get in this year.

wonder who it could be? a rookie maybe? i think leyva has it down to a science. schwebb when are you going up?

Thats what I am worried about TT. I am on the upswing with my game, BUT, something about that course. No worries though, I can always drive a golf cart with the best of them.

67 huh yeah i was thinking it was going to be lower this year with all the power houses that still have not registered and their being only 5 spots. i mean nikko leyva cale there should be some interesting action on monday.



<font color="blue"> don't forget finger MulleTT </font>

I think that alot depends on the weather in Rock Hill on Monday!

The key for me is going out early and not having a score staring you in the face that someone else shot.

I would rather set my own pace and see what happens after that.

No worries Leyviar, your my pick for the hot monday round...

Thanks Tank!

Anyone else think its BS that people who simply FORGOT to pay the entry for an entire month after they got in just get to take a monday spot because they are top players???

Im only saying this because I thought the monday spots were for people who HAVE NOT ALREADY QUALIFYED!!! Not for people who have and just didnt bother to pay the 230 in the entire MONTH they had to do it.

Anyone else think its BS that people who simply FORGOT to pay the entry for an entire month after they got in just get to take a monday spot because they are top players???



yes

What about people that qualify early in the year and not pay and take the state rep later? I believe I saw it happpen last year @ the Charlotte Open.

That wasn't the state rep spot, it was the spot given to the CDGC for our years of volunteer work. But I do agree, if you're not going to go, give it up when you get it. If you don't register on time, you're SOL. Or change the rule- If you don't pay on time, you have to qualify on Monday. Increase the # of Mon. spots to match the # of "didn't pay on time" plus 5. At a minimum $50 a round to qualify, that adds up to a bigger payout.

There could be several reasons that someone would not pay on time after they qualify other than just being lazy.

Financial troubles
Job issues
Family issues

But then life flips for the better and they still have a chance to play in the best tournament in the world. I don't blame them for qualifying Monday when that is but just one of the ways to qualify.

Geoff Bennett is playing Monday too.

Very good reasons. All valid.
I still stand on making them requalify on Monday. I think if a player qualifies in a tourny, then does not pay on time for any reason, he/she should not be allowed to requalify at another tourny and there should be the 5 spots + the # of "didn't pay" spots for the Monday qualifier.

If you dont pay when you first qualify, and then qualify on Monday you are taking essentially 4 spots instead of 1... You are taking your spot and the guy just below you at the event you played, thenyou waste them...Monday comes along and the who would have qualified if you were not there gets bounced and you take a spot yourself...You are responsible for 4 spots, and you only used one...It happens every year...People are gonna be [censored] and maybe not pay to Q this year, considering that, Leyva, Bennet, Cale, Cutt are qualifying....

Didnt he win the state finals spot?? why wouldnt he pay now??

Cutt's not that good is he? :D

Better watch out...Hes got ZZ caddies for the Q!!! Thats right. Its gonna be a batle for the spot this year, and it should not have been. But, what can they do. I just think i sucks for the guy who missed the spot by one person at some event out there and then didnt bother to sign up....Ive missed the spot many times by one person, and i was very dissapointed...If i found out later that one of the guys didnt sign up, I would have been [censored]. Doesnt seem fair, but such is life...

that is absolute crap that people who don't pay their money can re-qualify. I'm sorry. Stuff like this makes me happier that I didn't get in.

Cutt's not that good is he? :D



He's good for a dnf 3-4 times a year.

<font color="blue">they are called TMF's on the HomeGrown Tour.

Too Much FUN </font>

as always....

<font color="blue">they are called TMF's on the HomeGrown Tour.

Too Much FUN </font>

SAK dont know bout that

Juffman...You in or Q,in

I' disagree, these are all reasons why a person shouldn't play. If they have these reasons, then going to work can only support those reasons. Once again we as a society don't hold people accountable. We ask for registration early so TDs can make plans, and that would make it better for all.

Mini Thumber

I don't think that people will not come out to qualify because alot of other good players are showing up. Everyone can have a bad day on the course, and everyone can have a good day on the course. Who's to say that someone will not come and shoot lights out and qualify for the best event in disc golf!

all i know is that i'm going to be there on monday and will be turning in a score in the 60's. so let the chips fall as they may

502 will represent

that is absolute crap that people who don't pay their money can re-qualify. I'm sorry. Stuff like this makes me happier that I didn't get in.



I totally agree. Maybe we'll see this change next year.

Maybe we will get to see you next year!

so it looks like there where 172 competitors last year. there are currently 158 registered on the USDGC web site w/ 5 more monday guys that is 163. So how is the cap decided? and if so does ayone know what the cap is?

Hey Wave, they call me and ask me how many I want in this year. LOL
See ya soon

Mini Thumber

All I know is that I was planning on coming down for the Charlotte Open and to try and Q on Monday but if Bennet and Cale and Nikko and whoever else is going to play on Monday NO ONE has a chance to get a Monday spot!!! So it looks like now I may just be staying home because some lazy irresponsible TOURING PROS took all the last chance spots.............I just think its a bunch of [censored] that top guys qualify early in the year dont pay their entry and then take away a spot that a player like myself could have taken on Monday!!! Its just total BS that you can qualify and then give up your spot because you were too lazy to pay or figure out what you had to do to get in and now not only have you wasted your spot your going to take up another spot that someone else could have taken........And I dont want to hear the He didnt have money..........Or he didnt know he only had 30 days..........Or any of those other excuses.......These guys have been around the game long enough and been on tour all freaking year and know people who know the rules or have sponsors with money who know the rules and they just out and out were irresponsible and lazy and didnt do what they were supposed to do to get in so they should be shut out.......No offence to any of those guys because almost all of them are good friends of mine, but if you dont pre reg for a tourney and it fills.........YOUR SOL........See you next year and thats how it should be for the USDGC as well..........The rules are plainly stated and if you dont follow them it should be SORRY ABOUT YOUR LUCK.......Dont let the door hit you on the way out!!!

Thanks to all the irresponsible and Lazy TOUR PLAYERS who ruined any chance I had of qualifying on Monday!!! I really appreciate it.

Don't hold back!!! Tell us how you really feel. :DI agree with you completely.

I mean you dont see the Memorial just LETTING people in who forgot to pay do you??? Or any other tournament for that matter that has filled or has a specific number of spots.......I think since this year its much more of a problem then any past year......Why dont they just say we are capping it at 175 and whatever spots under 175 are left on Monday thats how many Monday spots we will give away.......Then after this year say........Hey if you qualify and dont pay withing 30 days you dont get to play.......I bet you NO ONE that qualifys forgets to pay then!!! I mean you cant requalify at any of the other regional or Global qualifyers if you dont pay in 30 days why should you be able to requalify on Monday???

i don't care who forgot to pay... i don't care who is a sure thing to qualify... i'm coming down there to qualify monday, all the way from the 502

Hope you get there early for some practice unless you plan on driving down playing one round and driving all the way back to the 502 with your tail between your legs!!!

I think Monday qualifying should be left for the players that couldn't qualify during the tour year. Most "top pros" can qualify pretty easily.It seems to me that if you qualify and don't send in the entry fees you are only hurting the chances of the up and coming or "average" pros. By the way this is group that is the real backbone of our sport. Without all these players almost all tournaments would have very small payouts. GIVE THEM THEIR CHANCE TO QUALIFY!!!

Perhaps you might send the same information in a strategically worded e-mail to the USDGC website. There is a lot of similar opinion out there. I don't really have an opinion on this particular subject but my life experience suggests that tactful and polite persuasion can yield the results you desire. I will be there to try to defeat these ogres on Monday if I fail at Hornet's Nest on the weekend prior.

Seems to me that the USDGC could fit about 180 people if they wanted to....So if there are 165 registered by the time Monday qualifying comes around would it make sence that they would offer up 15 spots so they could fill the tourney??? Why wouldnt you want to fill up the tournament??? Why not take in all that extra money from Qualifying rounds and entre fees and pad the purse and give more people a chance to play the BEST TOURNAMENT in disc golf......Why turn them away if you have room for them??? I just want someone to tell me why they dont FILL the tourney with the Monday qualifying??? That and if you got in a didnt pay YOUR NOT PLAYING!!! That would make EVERYONE alot happier.

Anyone else think its BS



<font color="green"> I know something about BS...and it's REAL. </font>

speaking of BS how is ole nabs?

I agree, if you have 30 days to get your registration in and fail to meet that date via postmark, try next year. Save Mon for the Others. Hold players accountable, keep a standard, and all will be understood.
Mini Thumber

Hold players accountable, keep a standard,....



Then again, it's a PDGA major event, and PDGA players are never held accountable for their actions. :D

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On a serious note, although i agree with once you qualify that should be it, no re-qualifying the Monday beforehand, just think about all of the spots Cale(for instance) gave to people throughout the year. Since he qualified early, every qualifier after that gave the next player down a golden ticket. Just looking at it from a different angle that's all.

Next year maybe their rule of how people get in will be amended.

Just be glad that Nolan qualified at SNC or there would be two spots taken mon. :D

Thing is Cale and Bennet NEVER had to QUALIFY!!! They were in from LAST YEAR!!! So its even worse for them cuz they had all the way from the time registration opened untill August 1st!!! WAY WAY WAY LONGER THAN 30 DAYS!!!

Shut up, show up Monday,and qualify. Anyone can have a good day, anyone can have a bad day. Who cares who didn't send in their money and blah blah blah. Show up and take a spot rookie.
:)
As for me...maybe I should just send in my money, get the hotel, get the car, get the plane ticket, suck it up, and go further into debt...

it's just a number mittenzz

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Shut up, show up Monday,and qualify. Anyone can have a good day, anyone can have a bad day. Who cares who didn't send in their money and blah blah blah. Show up and take a spot rookie.
:)
As for me...maybe I should just send in my money, get the hotel, get the car, get the plane ticket, suck it up, and go further into debt...



What's up Mitch? Hope to c u in SC!

Cmon Mitch, GROW UP...Pack your fondleBAGS and get down there...Im coming all the way from Norway for farts sake...Lets go rookie mullet, play your Q with Jimmi Land O lakes and you'll get a ZZ Caddy...We point to the basket and tell you to throw at it....

I hope that everyone that wants to qualify shows up. It should not matter who is going to be there, if your confident in your game show up and play!

<font color="blue"> Cale, Bennett, Hammock, and Leyva will more than likely get in
So we're pretty much playing for 1 spot...


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B. HAMMOCK has to qualify as well?!?!?!WOW...

B. HAMMOCK has to qualify as well?!?!?!WOW...



there's a height requirement for regular season qualifying

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It's the best tournament in disc golf, it should have the best players in disc golf.

The USDGC has this same issue, EVERY year. Obviously there's a problem.

It's actually very encouraging to see people so intent on qualifying for the USDGC. That kind of interest in an event can only mean good things for the future of the sport. Personally, I hope to see this desire to get in to a particular event extend to other premier events in the sport.

It's hard to believe that media coverage has not yet caught up with this enthusiasm. It makes me think that when it happens it will be big. I know a lot of folks who are working that angle.

Bottom line regarding the USDGC. If one plays well enough, they will get in. It's as simple as that. Some things seem unfair regarding current proceedures and perhaps they will be changed, but lots of things in life are unfair. The way to handle it is to dedicate oneself to upping one's game to the level where it doesn't matter - perhaps using the energy created by some perceived injustice as a motivating factor.

add Chris Lee and Kirk Yoo to the monday qualifying list....

I hope I get down there early enough to catch some of the qualifying action on tape. The way the numbers are shaping up, there will be far more "sure qualifiers" than there are qualifying spots. Some highly rated caddies for the w/e, perhaps.

Joe

Let me get this right...

There were some top touring pros that qualified for the USDGC but forgot to pay there entry fee on time?

Since they didn't pay on time the USDGC is voiding there spot?

So they have to qualify all over on qualifying day onsite at the USDGC?

If all three questions are true why is the USDGC allowing this and/or why isn't the USDGC on good faith just accepting there late entry fee? Why not add on a late fee for those you don't register on time?

What I don't understand why would the USDGC allow it? From what facts are present there are loop holes so it can be allowed.

Maybe in the future there will be a clause.


See I'm not making down there to play but I can see how this would crush people�s dreams of possibly qualifying.

Try to explain that to the players who travel to qualify...Oh by the way today�s qualifying you who average (950-980) rating have to compete with players that average (1010-1060) rating.

That is a large gap to fill. Anyway good luck to the players trying to qualify who haven't already qualified but forgot to register on time.

Just shows you that even "The Best Tournament in DG" isn't perfect.

As usual David well said. I as well look forward to the day our great sport gets the media attention it deserves. More for the boys than myself. I as a good casual player and not so good tournament play look forward to the USDGC, my time to be a spectator. This is truly the greatest event in the world.

Best of luck to all those playing on Monday.

Sounds like Monday is going to be a tough day for everyone that is trying to qualify. I look forward to the challenge!

Just shows you that even "The Best Tournament in DG" isn't perfect.

So, players qualified for the USDGC at events throughout the year, did not pay their entry fee, got "un-qualified", then are allowed to participate in Monday qualifying. I have no problem with that, I actually think this puts more pressure on them to play a good round on Monday, and the Winthrop Gold course is the ultimate equalizer in DG. The question/problem I have is, what about the players who finished behind the qualifying players at these events throughout the year? I say they should go back and look at these events and, albeit on short notice, offer the players who were bumped out of qualifying for the USDGC by the "unqualified" players at these qualifying events the first crack at getting in. These are the ones who are getting the bad deal here I think. Give them until Sunday night on 9/30 to get their money in, and if not, open the spot up for Monday.

Sounds like Monday is going to be a tough day for everyone that is trying to qualify. I look forward to the challenge!


I do, too. I pulled a groin muscle on the 2nd tee last year, and missed the cut by 2. I really want another chance at getting in the biggest event in our sport and am really looking forward to the Monday qualifier!

BOOOOO HOOOOOO! Mills, stop complaining. If you don't have anything constructive to say... SHUT UP! Everyone is fortunate that they even GIVE you the opportunity to qualify on Monday. Technically, if they took 5 players from all 20 qualifying stops, plus the 50 state exemptions, plus the all the other exemptions, the tournament could be more than full.

Life changes. Players that weren't sure Sept 1st should have EVERY right to re-qualify any way they please. They have to pay the $50 (or more) dollars just like everyone else. Would you complain if they got in via the sponsor's exemption? USDGC should be the BEST players, and if you think you have the "right" to qualify, all you have to do is play better than whoever is there on Monday. If you can't do that, then you don't DESERVE to play. How about you grow a pair and TRY!

This is their tournament to run. They can run it ANY way they want, and from what I have heard, they run it better than any other. I am sure constructive criticism is always welcome, a swearing tirade is not.

Congrats Mills, you just added 4 TOURING PROS to the list of people that let out that giant sigh when they see they might have to play with you. That is what I like about you, always making friends via the web board. Keep up the good work.

OK Baggers, this should work. Player a,b,c,and d have pre-qualified. USDG also has 5 spots for MON. OK, now b, and d failed to register, so now we should have the original 5 spots, plus b, and d so that would now make 7 spots up for bid.

This would work.
Mini Thumber

Except for the fact that USDGC sends invites to all the past world champions and all the 50 states and all the tournament TDs for NT events. But not all of them sign up. If they all signed up and all the players who qualified signed up, there would be no Monday spots and we would be there until dark everyday.

All I know is that I was planning on coming down for the Charlotte Open and to try and Q on Monday but if Bennet and Cale and Nikko and whoever else is going to play on Monday NO ONE has a chance to get a Monday spot!!! So it looks like now I may just be staying home because some lazy irresponsible TOURING PROS took all the last chance spots.............I just think its a bunch of [censored] that top guys qualify early in the year dont pay their entry and then take away a spot that a player like myself could have taken on Monday!!! Its just total BS that you can qualify and then give up your spot because you were too lazy to pay or figure out what you had to do to get in and now not only have you wasted your spot your going to take up another spot that someone else could have taken........And I dont want to hear the He didnt have money..........Or he didnt know he only had 30 days..........Or any of those other excuses.......These guys have been around the game long enough and been on tour all freaking year and know people who know the rules or have sponsors with money who know the rules and they just out and out were irresponsible and lazy and didnt do what they were supposed to do to get in so they should be shut out.......No offence to any of those guys because almost all of them are good friends of mine, but if you dont pre reg for a tourney and it fills.........YOUR SOL........See you next year and thats how it should be for the USDGC as well..........The rules are plainly stated and if you dont follow them it should be SORRY ABOUT YOUR LUCK.......Dont let the door hit you on the way out!!!

Thanks to all the irresponsible and Lazy TOUR PLAYERS who ruined any chance I had of qualifying on Monday!!! I really appreciate it.


MILLZ your mad for the wrong and right reason.
A) It's not cale, geoff or who-ever's fault that they didn't get in. there should have been a letter in the mail at the start of january with the entry fee to the USDGC, to each top 20 player. PERIOD. The USDGC should consider that. None of this would have happend if there would have been a procedure to getting the top 20 players to register at the start of the year.

there should also be no exemption spots to TD's and not all fifty states should have a rep. there should be no state reps at all!
the best of the best need to vie for the title and unfortuantly that won't happen this year.

I'm looking for a ride from the Charlotte airport on Sunday, around 5pm. If you know anyone who's landing around this time please let me know.

Ok, so if 20 people pre-qualified from last year and 15 of them failed to register, now they should offer 20 spots (15+5) on Monday? On top of all the people that qualified throughout the year? It just doesn't make sense with the numbers. Plus, it could get confusing having to go back and see where people qualified.

Scenario: Cale qualifies at the Memorial and neglects to register within a month and gets unqualified. Now Cale qualifies again at Bowling Green and fails to register again. Cale decides to just earn his way on Monday before the event. Now take that scenario with 1 or 2 people from each event.

You might as well make it a free-for-all come Monday before USDGC. Limiting it to 5 still keeps the pressure on you to perform. It still keeps the exclusivity of the event. If they opened it up to 10 or 20 people, you are almost letting anyone who can make it to the event play. Makes it "less important" to qualify early.

Purist: Why do you say that the best of the best won't be competing. Look at who is registered. The best of the best ARE going to be there. If they are not, it is their own fault. What SHOULD happen is that the sponsored players should have their sponsors ship out the entry fee. But that is an entirely different situation. If you really just wanted the "best of the best" just send out invites to the top 100 rated players. Be done with it. Sorry women, sorry guy who got lucky at one event, sorry great player who just signed up for the PDGA. What fun is that and where does that help draw in more players to more events?

This is just my opinion. I am sure people disagree with it. They usually do. :)

All I know is that I was planning on coming down for the Charlotte Open and to try and Q on Monday but if Bennet and Cale and Nikko and whoever else is going to play on Monday NO ONE has a chance to get a Monday spot!!! So it looks like now I may just be staying home because some lazy irresponsible TOURING PROS took all the last chance spots.............I just think its a bunch of [censored] that top guys qualify early in the year dont pay their entry and then take away a spot that a player like myself could have taken on Monday!!! Its just total BS that you can qualify and then give up your spot because you were too lazy to pay or figure out what you had to do to get in and now not only have you wasted your spot your going to take up another spot that someone else could have taken........And I dont want to hear the He didnt have money..........Or he didnt know he only had 30 days..........Or any of those other excuses.......These guys have been around the game long enough and been on tour all freaking year and know people who know the rules or have sponsors with money who know the rules and they just out and out were irresponsible and lazy and didnt do what they were supposed to do to get in so they should be shut out.......No offence to any of those guys because almost all of them are good friends of mine, but if you dont pre reg for a tourney and it fills.........YOUR SOL........See you next year and thats how it should be for the USDGC as well..........The rules are plainly stated and if you dont follow them it should be SORRY ABOUT YOUR LUCK.......Dont let the door hit you on the way out!!!

Thanks to all the irresponsible and Lazy TOUR PLAYERS who ruined any chance I had of qualifying on Monday!!! I really appreciate it.



Millz, One thing you forgot to consider....you have to be able to break 70 to qualify on Monday :o So there is no need to get your panties in a wad ;) Just think how lucky you are to save that $100 you would need to post that 69 that wouldn't be good enough anyhow. ;)

:D

Here is a nice example of one of the many downfalls of this sport. None of these rules that you are discussing here have changed from the beginning. You have to take care of your responsibilities to be in this event. You all know the deadline and it is a DEADLINE, meaning take care of it by the DEADLINE or you MISS OUT. It is not supposed to be easy. Stop trying to make it easier (because it won't happen) and do what it takes to be there. Or as I said about this time last year get a better shovel for next year, and dig deeper to get there if you think you deserve to be there and aren't on the list.

What's up with all the crying on this board?

Do you people with crappy little ratings really think you could actually compete in this tournament...'cause I sure don't. If you can't win it, why play in it and hence...why complain that you can't even get qualified to shoot in it?

All I know is that I was planning on coming down for the Charlotte Open and to try and Q on Monday but if Bennet and Cale and Nikko and whoever else is going to play on Monday NO ONE has a chance to get a Monday spot!!! So it looks like now I may just be staying home because some lazy irresponsible TOURING PROS took all the last chance spots.............I just think its a bunch of [censored] that top guys qualify early in the year dont pay their entry and then take away a spot that a player like myself could have taken on Monday!!! Its just total BS that you can qualify and then give up your spot because you were too lazy to pay or figure out what you had to do to get in and now not only have you wasted your spot your going to take up another spot that someone else could have taken........And I dont want to hear the He didnt have money..........Or he didnt know he only had 30 days..........Or any of those other excuses.......These guys have been around the game long enough and been on tour all freaking year and know people who know the rules or have sponsors with money who know the rules and they just out and out were irresponsible and lazy and didnt do what they were supposed to do to get in so they should be shut out.......No offence to any of those guys because almost all of them are good friends of mine, but if you dont pre reg for a tourney and it fills.........YOUR SOL........See you next year and thats how it should be for the USDGC as well..........The rules are plainly stated and if you dont follow them it should be SORRY ABOUT YOUR LUCK.......Dont let the door hit you on the way out!!!

Thanks to all the irresponsible and Lazy TOUR PLAYERS who ruined any chance I had of qualifying on Monday!!! I really appreciate it.



Millz, One thing you forgot to consider....you have to be able to break 70 to qualify on Monday :o So there is no need to get your panties in a wad ;) Just think how lucky you are to save that $100 you would need to post that 69 that wouldn't be good enough anyhow. ;)

:D



:DBrutal...don't you have a crappy diper to be changing? :p I do agree that the deadline has been pretty clear since the day this tourney started. If people don't realize that deadline, then that's their own fault for missing the best tourney in the world! We have to take responsibility as pro golfers....we are pro's right :confused:


Hey Polish...keep it down!

Wish you were comin Shickster!

BOOOOO HOOOOOO! Mills, stop complaining. If you don't have anything constructive to say... SHUT UP! Everyone is fortunate that they even GIVE you the opportunity to qualify on Monday. Technically, if they took 5 players from all 20 qualifying stops, plus the 50 state exemptions, plus the all the other exemptions, the tournament could be more than full.

Life changes. Players that weren't sure Sept 1st should have EVERY right to re-qualify any way they please. They have to pay the $50 (or more) dollars just like everyone else. Would you complain if they got in via the sponsor's exemption? USDGC should be the BEST players, and if you think you have the "right" to qualify, all you have to do is play better than whoever is there on Monday. If you can't do that, then you don't DESERVE to play. How about you grow a pair and TRY!

This is their tournament to run. They can run it ANY way they want, and from what I have heard, they run it better than any other. I am sure constructive criticism is always welcome, a swearing tirade is not.

Congrats Mills, you just added 4 TOURING PROS to the list of people that let out that giant sigh when they see they might have to play with you. That is what I like about you, always making friends via the web board. Keep up the good work.



1st Off who the HELL are you??? Do I even know you??? I dont think so and if I do and dont remeber you there is probly a reason!!! And as for me complaining I would be saying this stuff if I was 1020 rated or 967 rater or in or out of the tournament!!! I have qualifyed before and I payed my money ASAP well within my 30 day limit and I was just an AM with a part time job and NO money to my name but I somehow figured out a way to get in my 230 dollars to make sure I didnt lose my spot!!! Its really not that hard and as for those 4 guys not liking me or getting upset that they have to play with me thats untrue..........Geoff and Cale and Nikko are all my friends and I would be saying it no matter who it was.......I said no offence to them it just should not be allowed to happen!!! Ill still be down there on Monday to try and qualify and if I cant I will most likely caddy or help out on staff if they need it!!!

So if you dont have anything productive or valid to say why dont you take your own advice. Cuz it seems like your one of the few if not the only person that disagrees. So instead of trying to make me look bad on here because you have some unknown or false grudge against me why dont you go outside and hit the field or basket for some practice so maybe some day you can beat me on the course instead of insult me on the message board!!!

See you guys on monday no matter how many spots are left!!! Who knows maybe ill be able to throw it in all your faces come monday night!!! ;) ;) ;)

What's up with all the crying on this board?

Do you people with crappy little ratings really think you could actually compete in this tournament...'cause I sure don't. If you can't win it, why play in it and hence...why complain that you can't even get qualified to shoot in it?



Well if thats true shouldnt you just quit playing disc golf since you have never won anything??? :o:o:o

wow...should be an interesting monday!

Also if anyone that is heading back West after the USDGC we have a great A-Tier, The Colorado State Championships, in Southern CO the weekend of the 13th-14th. Always a great time, with some great folks,and some good competition (Mike Randolph, Feldberg, Avery, Layland)

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All day, [censored]!

Well if thats true shouldnt you just quit playing disc golf since you have never won anything??? :o:o:o



I never said anything about my sloppy play, Mr. Mills. I definitely won't be at USDGC. I work too hard for my money to donate it to people that play everyday vs. my once a week play.

I would be happy however, to invite you and your buddies down to Vienna for some big stakes golf.

Well if thats true shouldnt you just quit playing disc golf since you have never won anything??? :o:o:o



I never said anything about my sloppy play, Mr. Mills. I definitely won't be at USDGC. I work too hard for my money to donate it to people that play everyday vs. my once a week play.

I would be happy however, to invite you and your buddies down to Vienna for some big stakes golf.



Oh really??? Seems to me the only course there you can beat me on is the SHORTS that you BEGGED the TD to let us play during the Vienna Open so that you could have a chance..........How about we play for money somewhere that ISNT your home course??? Oh by the way I played that tournament at your home course BLIND!!! :o:o:o

I only play once a week. It aint helpin me either. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Steve.

I don't really know you, but it seems to me you spend the majority of your disc golf career talking and whining.

I would be happy to take your money on any course anytime I have time off work. I know you may not be able to comprehend the concept of people with real jobs, not delivering pizza, but yeah...I'd be happy to shoot some. How about Willow Longs? Let me know and I'll try to get time off work.

Wish you were comin Shickster!



Oh I am there Leyva....9 times straight to be exact! :p

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All day, [censored]!



:D:DI was waiting for that! :D:D

We read all the input. Even if we can not implement all the suggestions, please know that they are read and considered. Among the many suggestions, one that we do plan to implement for 2008 is to mail reminders to the exempt players and the qualifiers.

For 2007, I am able to clarify two issues. The first relates to the Charlotte Disc Golf Club (CDGC) sponsor exempt spot. There has been some uncertainty as to whether this spot would be open to those who have missed deadlines. The CDGC confirmed with me this evening that this spot will be open to those players.

Unrelated to the qualifying, there has also been some uncertainty about the splitting of the first pace prize in case of a tie or playoff. The Championship will issue the full first place check to the winner, and will issue a 1099 accordingly. The disposition of the first place award and the attendant tax consequence will then be a private matter for the winner.

Take care,
Harold

I was gonna try to make it to the King of the Courses tomorrow Brad, but my friend is in from New York. Next time, mon fraire.

If you cant win why play? Thats the strangest dicgolf statement ive ever read...I play and compete for the fun and exitement, and winning is a bonus....Ive got faith in my boy millZZ...He'll get in and at least do some 1081 rated chillin during the event!!!
I bought a ping pong table a few months ago, and i am ready to take a few people out!!! PETE MAY, you,re mine...LOL...He'll destroy me, but i will get at least 1 point...I cant win, so maybe i shouldnt play agaisnt him! Just kidding!! bang bang UniTTY...ZZ.

Gotta love all the excitement.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. No one is quaranteed a spot just for showing up on Monday. I don't care who you are or how good you are. 3 years ago I watched Brian Skinner (owner of the highest rated round of golf ever btw) fail to qualify. Last year I watched Leyva sweat it out for an entire day, although I told him he was in after his round of 64.

I've watched the best players in the world have bad rounds at Winthrop. I've also seen players below 1000 shoot lights out. It can happen to anyone.

More pressure on Monday, uncertain weather conditions throughout the day and the time deadline mean the spots are going to those that bring thier A game and have a flawless round. Beating Winthrop has nothing to do with your player rating or how you played in this or that tournament. It's about risk/reward and playing smart.

You didn't have to remind me about that!

Thank you Harold for taking the time to respond to all the talk regarding these issues!

Mills, I have nothing personal against you. I just think that you spout off on this web board before you put ANY thought into what you say. I am not trying to make you look bad, you don't need my help with that. Anyone with a spell checker can do that. Quick hint: Firefox browser has a built in spell checker. But after checking out this link, maybe I understand a bit more why you have all the mistakes... I am only from Wisconsin after all.
http://www.morganquitno.com/edrank.htm

You are such good friends with those touring pros that you call them "LAZY" &amp; "IRRESPONSIBLE". Very nice. Maybe for their birthday, you can pour some sugar in thier gas tank and feed their dog Ex-lax. Where can I sign up to be your best friend?

I am glad you are going down to the event. I would see you down there as well, but my fulltime job is getting in the way yet again. Because all I was stating is that you should "man up" and not complain about how unfair life is and how the USDGC somehow owes you the RIGHT not to qualify against these players. Best of luck on Monday trying to qualify, America always loves the underdog story.

bring your ping pong paddles... pete- i hope you've been training, i have something for you.

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Mills, I have nothing personal against you. I just think that you spout off on this web board before you put ANY thought into what you say. I am not trying to make you look bad, you don't need my help with that. Anyone with a spell checker can do that. Quick hint: Firefox browser has a built in spell checker. But after checking out this link, maybe I understand a bit more why you have all the mistakes... I am only from Wisconsin after all.
http://www.morganquitno.com/edrank.htm

You are such good friends with those touring pros that you call them "LAZY" &amp; "IRRESPONSIBLE". Very nice. Maybe for their birthday, you can pour some sugar in thier gas tank and feed their dog Ex-lax. Where can I sign up to be your best friend?

I am glad you are going down to the event. I would see you down there as well, but my fulltime job is getting in the way yet again. Because all I was stating is that you should "man up" and not complain about how unfair life is and how the USDGC somehow owes you the RIGHT not to qualify against these players. Best of luck on Monday trying to qualify, America always loves the underdog story.



Hey what else would you call what they did??? I know for a fact Bennet knew when his money had to be in because he has been talking about WINNING the tournament ALL YEAR LONG!!! And Cale played last year so im sure he knew his money had to be in 30 days after he qualifyed.........Nikko is a whole other story all together but we wont get into that...............If I did what they have done I wouldnt want my friend to sugar coat it for me........And if you do know me at all im not one to sugar coat anything.........I know I ruffle feathers and im fine with it........Do you really think Cale and Bennet and Nikko are going to hate me or even be mad at me for what I said??? I highly doubt it..........Maybe it was an honest mistake but it still sucks for the few average rated pros that thought there were going to be a few spots open for them to grab on monday!!!

I meant all the things I said and I wish that this year they would open up a few extra spot because of the circumstances and then just make the situation better for next year which Harold has already stated they are going to do!!!

All I know is im going to go down there and play my best with a great caddy walking with me and if that makes it great!!! If it doesnt EVERYONE knows ill be having a hell of a time anyway!!! :D:D:D

if you need a ride somewhere, I'm a Charlotte local always willing to help out anyway possible. Message me here anytime.

Bring earplugs and a fluted glass, Ian. :)

Wish you were comin Shickster!



Oh I am there Leyva....9 times straight to be exact! :p

me 3 BS

bring your ping pong paddles... pete- i hope you've been training, i have something for you.

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No you dont

Mills, I have nothing personal against you. I just think that you spout off on this web board before you put ANY thought into what you say. I am not trying to make you look bad, you don't need my help with that. Anyone with a spell checker can do that. Quick hint: Firefox browser has a built in spell checker. But after checking out this link, maybe I understand a bit more why you have all the mistakes... I am only from Wisconsin after all.
http://www.morganquitno.com/edrank.htm

You are such good friends with those touring pros that you call them "LAZY" &amp; "IRRESPONSIBLE". Very nice. Maybe for their birthday, you can pour some sugar in thier gas tank and feed their dog Ex-lax. Where can I sign up to be your best friend?

I am glad you are going down to the event. I would see you down there as well, but my fulltime job is getting in the way yet again. Because all I was stating is that you should "man up" and not complain about how unfair life is and how the USDGC somehow owes you the RIGHT not to qualify against these players. Best of luck on Monday trying to qualify, America always loves the underdog story.


You just need to learn to take Millz with a grain of salt. He spouts more [censored] than a geyser on exlax, but people know this coming in. All of the guys he has mentioned, I'm sure, are used to him, and know him for who he is. He's a solid guy who types faster than his brain works. Plus, really, Cale, Bennett, and Nikko WERE all irresponsible in not getting their stuff in on time. This is true. Lazy might be a bit much. But what're words between friends?

Oh, and I want to be at Willow to witness Pimp v. Nightmare, Willow Longs. I might be willing to throw in a lower-money side bet to get in on a round myself... I don't have the confidence in my game to challenge for your big monies.


-Chris "The Polish Dream" Wojciechowski.

bring your ping pong paddles... pete- i hope you've been training, i have something for you.

502

No you dont



yes i do...
schweb... if you want some i'll give you 10-1 odds and play you for any amount. and i've never even seen your pong game

502

Careful Scott, thats TThe Pro.

Mini Thumber

bring your ping pong paddles... pete- i hope you've been training, i have something for you.

502

No you dont



yes i do...
schweb... if you want some i'll give you 10-1 odds and play you for any amount. and i've never even seen your pong game

502

I have a descent game, but I was talking baout your chances against Pete.

i know pete is really good. i was giving the odds to Schweb, or anyone else who's last name isnt May that will be in the USDGC for that matter...step right up!
But to play Pete for his $ I still have to qualify Monday.

ahhhhhhhhh

so what kind of odds do you give me against pete then?

you might get a couple points off him if he lets you.

so what kind of odds do you give me against pete then?



scott i have NEVER seen you play ping pong but if Pete tries, you will at best score 5 points on him.

He was beatting Shaw Sinclair last year with chairs and stuff laying on his side of the table.

I actually beat him 22-20 when all he was using was a lunch tray! Nice weapon against any spin. Hopefully I'll get some matches in this year &amp; Pete will let people play with their own paddles...unless he's scared of course.

so what kind of odds do you give me against pete then?



NONE

Pete won't be using no tray against Scott! It will be an entertaining match I would say!

_Mtl_ how about i'll give you 10-1 odds that i score 5 or more points in a game against pete. Doesnt matter that you've never seen me play, Pete's great and thats all that matters right? It can be our little side bet. It should be a fun time no matter what. Qualify or no qualify I'll be there paddle in hand.

I like the confidence!

But I don't bet anymore and I more than likely won't be at the Championship this year.

thanks buddy. i'm just playing anyway, but can't wait to pong it up.

I noticed that 888 is in a different pin placement right now on the island green. Is this pin gonna stay there for the tournament???

That's where it was last year, it will be there again this year.

I think it was in the other position for only 1 year, 2005.

It appears that the construction at the baseball field has prevented us from getting the clown's mouth back?

I'm still looking for a place to share for the week, anyone need to split a room?

I've come up with Reason #1 why I absolutely and positively NEED to play this course: Every time I look at the map and the videos I come to the conclusion that, by independently looking at each hole and countering worst case and best case and evening them out over the course of the whole course... on a hot day I should shoot a 62. On an average day a 66-68...

And then I look at it and realize that shooting one hot day like that, and the rest average like that would cash me for over $1000.00... and I *KNOW* I'm not that good. I need need need need need need need to play this course to truly get an understanding for the difficulty. It is painfully obvious to my disc golf obsessed mind that mere maps and videos can not convey whatever it is that makes this course so difficult.

I've played 960 golf all summer, and thats a 76-79 depending on the day, and looking at the holes I don't see how it is possible I could ever shoot that bad on this course. I need to play this course. My mind is not going to be at peace until I can truly comprehend the difficulty of Winthrop Gold! Oh my god my sleep deprived mind is going into convulsions!

I THINK I'M HAVING A DISC GOLF SEIZURE. SOMEBODY HELP ME. SOMEBODY skjfhasa;lkfl;sakh;lksf;llaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Well I do think you need to play the course then Monday after the turnie go after it, if you get in the 60's well you won't so it is a moot point. I'm a 934 player and played it two years ago on Monday, I had a pretty good round for myself, started out with a nice deuce on hole 1 and I played the rest of the course pretty good except for two holes where I took big numbers, once in particular when I kept tin cupping with some yellow rope and took like a 9 on not a hard hole. I came in with an 83 I believe. Anyway sorry for the ramble but I want you to play the course and report back!

One important factor cannot be represented on those maps and pictures! WIND, windy, windier, windiest! The wind is always blowing at winthrop.

Having your name announced on the first tee in front of everyone seems to reduce the number of birdies on that hole, too... :cool:

i have never goten hole 1....Last year was silly, I kept throwing the thumber over the top, and missing the putt....This year, I will throw back hand, Standstill Rocs...I will get it 4 times.

2 for 4 over the top... and i think i laid up twice from 40

Juffman...you,re comin right?

not looking good, i hear there's some kind of beerfest on the 6th... priorities sun

Last year was silly, I kept throwing the thumber over the top



you are right, that is silly :D

Come to Charlotte for the week. Beerlympics on the 29th? at the Metrolina Expo center with disc golf.

http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/beerlympics/

Of course, that's during the Charlotte Open, so you wouldn't be interested.

Cool it even includes disc golf! :cool:

i hear there's some kind of beerfest on the 6th... priorities sun



sTTraighTT up!

beerfest with discgolf...WOW..

I've come up with Reason #1 why I absolutely and positively NEED to play this course: Every time I look at the map and the videos I come to the conclusion that, by independently looking at each hole and countering worst case and best case and evening them out over the course of the whole course... on a hot day I should shoot a 62. On an average day a 66-68...

And then I look at it and realize that shooting one hot day like that, and the rest average like that would cash me for over $1000.00... and I *KNOW* I'm not that good. I need need need need need need need to play this course to truly get an understanding for the difficulty. It is painfully obvious to my disc golf obsessed mind that mere maps and videos can not convey whatever it is that makes this course so difficult.

I've played 960 golf all summer, and thats a 76-79 depending on the day, and looking at the holes I don't see how it is possible I could ever shoot that bad on this course. I need to play this course. My mind is not going to be at peace until I can truly comprehend the difficulty of Winthrop Gold! Oh my god my sleep deprived mind is going into convulsions!

I THINK I'M HAVING A DISC GOLF SEIZURE. SOMEBODY HELP ME. SOMEBODY skjfhasa;lkfl;sakh;lksf;llaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah



I'm a 960 rating and I shot a 67 and a 70 when I played there a couple weeks ago. I had always watched the course on dvds and video clips and felt the same way. Getting to actually play the course completely changed my view of the difficulty. Its actually a lot more difficult than I really imagined. With holes like #5 and the famous 12th hole "888", you really have to be precise on every shot or you will take stuff like a double circle 8 or sometimes worse. My first round I played really well because I got a 5 on #5 and I birdied 888. My second round I shot terrible on those holes and threw 2 discs into the drink on hole 5. You should go out to the USDGC this year and then play the course after the tournament. It truly is an amazing course....

One thing you didn't get to experience... YELLOW ROPES, lots and lots of yellow ropes! :0
For those that don't play Wed - Sat, the staff leave the ropes up and the course is open on Sun. (and usually for a few extra days) If you get the chance, you should play Winthrup with the ropes. It really does change things.