Sharky
Oct 02 2007, 09:55 AM
Bummer I was rooting for him.
dwiggmd
Oct 02 2007, 10:08 AM
Thanks everyone for the support. As a Dad, I'm definitely quite biased, but that is some of the best disc golf I've seen David Jr. ever play. He is finally starting to play using his head. A 64 was definitely not out of his range yesterday.
On the first round he birdied 1, 4(pin surrounded by tall leland cypress) 5 (over the lake) and 13 (888) three of them some of the toughest holes on the course. Unlucky skip outs on 10 and 12, and just overthrowing the rope on his second shot on 11 cost him 3 strokes. A pretty good drive skipping into the very center of the very last clump of trees on the left on 15 cost him a stroke to get out. That left him even after a good drive on 18. We thought a 67 might do it, but a 68 would not so he tried to carve the corner tight going for a birdie and went OB left - 70, not bad.
Next round he stepped up to 17 with a 69. We knew he needed a birdie for any chance to qualify. That's a big gamble on 17 - round over.
3rd round he steps up to 13 one under as we hear Brad Hammock can a birdie put right behind us for a 63 pace (Brad truly seemed like a real nice guy BTW) We also heard of some other good scores making it look like a 65 or less would be necesssary. David tried a bit too hard on his drive and flipped it into the road - game over.
Still, he finished it out well leaving his drive leaning against the pin on the very next hole and sinking a 50 footer for birdie on 16. That left the mathematical possibility (at that time) for qualifying with an ace on 17 and a birdie on 18. So there was an ace run on 17 - splash.
Oh well, maybe next year. Maybe we'll even try a couple qualifying tournaments as it seems that way may not be any harder than Monday qualifying any more.
Finally the "wiggins" wagon worked great. I highly recommend a garden style wagon (bigger wheels) with two plastic milk crates for lugging stuff around that course. We had all the food, drinks, and discs we needed with room to spare for other folks stuff as well.
thanks again for all the kind words which I certainly pass on to David.
On the first round he birdied 1, 4(pin surrounded by tall leland cypress) 5 (over the lake) and 13 (888) three of them some of the toughest holes on the course. Unlucky skip outs on 10 and 12, and just overthrowing the rope on his second shot on 11 cost him 3 strokes. A pretty good drive skipping into the very center of the very last clump of trees on the left on 15 cost him a stroke to get out. That left him even after a good drive on 18. We thought a 67 might do it, but a 68 would not so he tried to carve the corner tight going for a birdie and went OB left - 70, not bad.
Next round he stepped up to 17 with a 69. We knew he needed a birdie for any chance to qualify. That's a big gamble on 17 - round over.
3rd round he steps up to 13 one under as we hear Brad Hammock can a birdie put right behind us for a 63 pace (Brad truly seemed like a real nice guy BTW) We also heard of some other good scores making it look like a 65 or less would be necesssary. David tried a bit too hard on his drive and flipped it into the road - game over.
Still, he finished it out well leaving his drive leaning against the pin on the very next hole and sinking a 50 footer for birdie on 16. That left the mathematical possibility (at that time) for qualifying with an ace on 17 and a birdie on 18. So there was an ace run on 17 - splash.
Oh well, maybe next year. Maybe we'll even try a couple qualifying tournaments as it seems that way may not be any harder than Monday qualifying any more.
Finally the "wiggins" wagon worked great. I highly recommend a garden style wagon (bigger wheels) with two plastic milk crates for lugging stuff around that course. We had all the food, drinks, and discs we needed with room to spare for other folks stuff as well.
thanks again for all the kind words which I certainly pass on to David.
deoldphart
Oct 02 2007, 10:15 AM
Dave you have a done a great job fathering lil wigg, and being a parent. The next few years are going to be a lot of fun and exciting for disc golf. When lil wig gets above 5ft, look out.
Mini Thumber
Mini Thumber
jefferson
Oct 02 2007, 10:17 AM
congraTTs on the good play. birdying 4, 5, and 13 in the same round is outstanding
riverdog
Oct 02 2007, 10:17 AM
News of the morning is Jason Land (<font color="red">C</font>utt) is a no show, maybe personal reasons, maybe he overslept. At this point we�re not sure.
Tony parred hole 1, the other 4 birdied.
.......we're still looking for him. It does appear that he isn't in Yadkinville though. :p ;)
Tony parred hole 1, the other 4 birdied.
.......we're still looking for him. It does appear that he isn't in Yadkinville though. :p ;)
deoldphart
Oct 02 2007, 10:21 AM
Would somebody please tell me it aint so, going back to bed so I can wake up from this nightmare. :eek:
stack
Oct 02 2007, 10:23 AM
say it aint so CuTT!!!
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 10:25 AM
so what are the total scores? who is doing the blog please update.. thanks
whorley
Oct 02 2007, 10:29 AM
Kick buttocks Jimi and Tony! Good Luck
Jinx!!! I'll never wish anyone good luck ever again, unless they're playing in my group.
Jinx!!! I'll never wish anyone good luck ever again, unless they're playing in my group.
jefferson
Oct 02 2007, 10:29 AM
Hole - 5
October 2nd, 2007 09:42 am
Jonathan throws lefty off the tee and catches the trees to the right of the fairway but lands in bounds. Then he throws right handed on his next shot down the road.
Other drives were safely in the fairway. Larry�s being the longest who turns over his 2nd shot putting it on the far right side of the fairway.
Jesse playes it safe and goes right and around the corner, looks like he had about 335 ft. to the basket. Jonathan cuts the corner and lands about 300 ft. away to the right of the basket. Tony chunks his into the water, looks like a putter hyzered out. It didn�t cross the peninsula so he throws again from the same spot as he was nearly next to the water. His next attempt makes it across.
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October 2nd, 2007 09:38 am
Tony ends up in the woods right side off the tee, he�s not OB. The others drive safely.
Larry�s upshot ends up safe but behind the trees surrounding the green. Jonathan played a safe shot, shooting left of the opening to set up an easy 4. Jesse makes the same play. Tony throws a monster hyzer, looks parked from here.
Jonathan 5 - missing a short putt.
Tony 4
Jonathan and Jesse - 4
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Hole - 3
October 2nd, 2007 09:21 am
Jonathan puts his drive within 30 ft. as does Jesse. Tony parks his within 6 ft., the other players have long putts.
Larry and Jesse parred.
Tony and Jonathan birdied.
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Hole - 2
October 2nd, 2007 09:11 am
Tony goes OB on his drive after hitting a tree on his roller, he�s only about 100 ft. from the tee. Jonathan Pierce had a monster roller past the brick house and close to the parking lot. Tony�s 2nd roller from next to the street fights thru the branches and snuggles up to the fence. He has a difficult stance not wanting to move off the fence as it hurts his line. He hits a tree about 100 ft. from the basket.
Jonathan throws his 2nd shot right of the basket into the schule near the fence, he�ll have a putt. Jesse�s 3rd is parked, recovering nicely from his tree hit off the tee.
Jesse chains out from about 15 ft. Larry also misses a short putt.
Jonathan 4
Larry 4
Jesse 5
Tony circle 6
October 2nd, 2007 09:42 am
Jonathan throws lefty off the tee and catches the trees to the right of the fairway but lands in bounds. Then he throws right handed on his next shot down the road.
Other drives were safely in the fairway. Larry�s being the longest who turns over his 2nd shot putting it on the far right side of the fairway.
Jesse playes it safe and goes right and around the corner, looks like he had about 335 ft. to the basket. Jonathan cuts the corner and lands about 300 ft. away to the right of the basket. Tony chunks his into the water, looks like a putter hyzered out. It didn�t cross the peninsula so he throws again from the same spot as he was nearly next to the water. His next attempt makes it across.
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October 2nd, 2007 09:38 am
Tony ends up in the woods right side off the tee, he�s not OB. The others drive safely.
Larry�s upshot ends up safe but behind the trees surrounding the green. Jonathan played a safe shot, shooting left of the opening to set up an easy 4. Jesse makes the same play. Tony throws a monster hyzer, looks parked from here.
Jonathan 5 - missing a short putt.
Tony 4
Jonathan and Jesse - 4
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Hole - 3
October 2nd, 2007 09:21 am
Jonathan puts his drive within 30 ft. as does Jesse. Tony parks his within 6 ft., the other players have long putts.
Larry and Jesse parred.
Tony and Jonathan birdied.
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Hole - 2
October 2nd, 2007 09:11 am
Tony goes OB on his drive after hitting a tree on his roller, he�s only about 100 ft. from the tee. Jonathan Pierce had a monster roller past the brick house and close to the parking lot. Tony�s 2nd roller from next to the street fights thru the branches and snuggles up to the fence. He has a difficult stance not wanting to move off the fence as it hurts his line. He hits a tree about 100 ft. from the basket.
Jonathan throws his 2nd shot right of the basket into the schule near the fence, he�ll have a putt. Jesse�s 3rd is parked, recovering nicely from his tree hit off the tee.
Jesse chains out from about 15 ft. Larry also misses a short putt.
Jonathan 4
Larry 4
Jesse 5
Tony circle 6
rob
Oct 02 2007, 10:30 AM
Yes, I 3 putted on hole 1! $25 restart and took a 3 = $12.50 a stroke. Was -4 on the front and had two BAD holes on the back to finish with a 71. Played two rounds. Highlights of my Monday: birdied holes 2,7,9 and 17 both rds. Eagled hole 12 (birdied the 1st rd). Hit the basket on my second shot on hole 4. In two rounds, I had 1 eagle, 12 birdies, 12 pars and I'd like to forget the rest. The back 9 is (has always been) much tougher than the front. I did get to play with some really nice people, which made it a little less painful. I also saw Brad quit 3 times :)
I'll be volunteering and caddieing now. See ya out there. good luck to all the players!
I'll be volunteering and caddieing now. See ya out there. good luck to all the players!
stack
Oct 02 2007, 10:36 AM
based on blog the scorecard should look like this...
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 17 18 TOTAL
Tony - 3 - 6 - 2 - 4 - 7 - 22
Jon - 2 - 4 - 2 - 5 - 5 - 18
Jesse- 2 - 5 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 19
Larry - 2 - 4 - 3 - 4 - 6 - 19
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 17 18 TOTAL
Tony - 3 - 6 - 2 - 4 - 7 - 22
Jon - 2 - 4 - 2 - 5 - 5 - 18
Jesse- 2 - 5 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 19
Larry - 2 - 4 - 3 - 4 - 6 - 19
jefferson
Oct 02 2007, 10:37 AM
With two players qualified on Monday, four players started out early this morning to battle for the remaining 3 spots. If you have been following the action, you know that five players should be on the course right now. Jason Land, aka JLand, aka Cutt, aka JIMI Cutterz, aka UniTTy decided to gracefully bow out of the competition. When asked why he was still at the hotel instead of on the course, Jason simply replied, �They want it more than I do."
haha solo UniTTy
haha solo UniTTy
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 10:40 AM
thanks Stack.
Cutt should run out on the course with 4 holes to play and act like he is ready :D
Cutt should run out on the course with 4 holes to play and act like he is ready :D
stack
Oct 02 2007, 10:46 AM
no prob... formatting sucked so i'm not going to keep updating... he's doing the totals now anyway.
and i really wanted to see CuTT join in after the first 2 holes or something (taking +4's on them of course) and still give it a run. Just to add to the drama of course.
they're @ the 'anything can happen' hole now... will be interesting to see if Jonathan lays up and takes the easy 4 to hold the lead.... could be a playoff to the playoff @ the backend of the 4some
and i really wanted to see CuTT join in after the first 2 holes or something (taking +4's on them of course) and still give it a run. Just to add to the drama of course.
they're @ the 'anything can happen' hole now... will be interesting to see if Jonathan lays up and takes the easy 4 to hold the lead.... could be a playoff to the playoff @ the backend of the 4some
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 10:47 AM
whoever is blogging thank you for adding total scores.....
2 holes left looks like Tony better get an ace
2 holes left looks like Tony better get an ace
stack
Oct 02 2007, 10:52 AM
The blogger is Jerry Sunkin from Disc Golf Center.com
and wow... looks like 17 is still living up to its legend...
Wind is blowing pretty stiff in the face plus it�s swirling. This hole is treacherous!
Jonathan and Jesse come up short and are OB. Larry goes long and splashes water. Tony drops his in the middle of the green. Jonathan�s second ends up in the middle of the green. Jesse�s 2nd threatens to go long but drops in the back right. Larry�s 2nd gets flat and glides over the green long and wet. Larry�s 3rd turns over and lands safe in the front right corner.
really thought Jonathan would take the layup route since hes 3 strokes up on the 3rd place spot.
and wow... looks like 17 is still living up to its legend...
Wind is blowing pretty stiff in the face plus it�s swirling. This hole is treacherous!
Jonathan and Jesse come up short and are OB. Larry goes long and splashes water. Tony drops his in the middle of the green. Jonathan�s second ends up in the middle of the green. Jesse�s 2nd threatens to go long but drops in the back right. Larry�s 2nd gets flat and glides over the green long and wet. Larry�s 3rd turns over and lands safe in the front right corner.
really thought Jonathan would take the layup route since hes 3 strokes up on the 3rd place spot.
jefferson
Oct 02 2007, 10:54 AM
2 holes left looks like Tony better get an ace
looks like all he needed was #17
looks like all he needed was #17
jefferson
Oct 02 2007, 11:06 AM
With two players qualified on Monday, four players started out early this morning to battle for the remaining 3 spots. If you have been following the action, you know that five players should be on the course right now. Jason Land, aka JLand, aka Cutt, aka JIMI Cutterz, aka UniTTy decided to gracefully bow out of the competition. When asked why he was still at the hotel instead of on the course, Jason simply replied, �They want it more than I do."
haha solo UniTTy
ReaL WOTS is that ol JIMI celebrated with a liTTle too much cheese last night, put him off his routine for this morning. had a paper ready and nothing to do...
haha solo UniTTy
ReaL WOTS is that ol JIMI celebrated with a liTTle too much cheese last night, put him off his routine for this morning. had a paper ready and nothing to do...
my_hero
Oct 02 2007, 11:06 AM
Hole - 9 (actually 18)
October 2nd, 2007 10:20 am
Everyone goes backhand and lands safe except for Jonathan who throws what looks like a nice roller. He hits leaves at the botton of a tree kicking right and going OB, but it is well up the fairway.
Tony�s upshot goes OB, Larry�s is safe up on the green but about 35 out with the basket 10 ft. below his feet. He makes the putt! Everyone�s going nuts.
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Hole - 8 (actually 17)
October 2nd, 2007 10:13 am
Wind is blowing pretty stiff in the face plus it�s swirling. This hole is treacherous!
Jonathan and Jesse come up short and are OB. Larry goes long and splashes water. Tony drops his in the middle of the green. Jonathan�s second ends up in the middle of the green. Jesse�s 2nd threatens to go long but drops in the back right. Larry�s 2nd gets flat and glides over the green long and wet. Larry�s 3rd turns over and lands safe in the front right corner.
Everyone played a safe up after they were on the green.
Jonathan 5 - 27
Jesse 5 - 29
Larry 7 - 32
Tony 3 - 31
Larry and Tony swap spots!
October 2nd, 2007 10:20 am
Everyone goes backhand and lands safe except for Jonathan who throws what looks like a nice roller. He hits leaves at the botton of a tree kicking right and going OB, but it is well up the fairway.
Tony�s upshot goes OB, Larry�s is safe up on the green but about 35 out with the basket 10 ft. below his feet. He makes the putt! Everyone�s going nuts.
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Hole - 8 (actually 17)
October 2nd, 2007 10:13 am
Wind is blowing pretty stiff in the face plus it�s swirling. This hole is treacherous!
Jonathan and Jesse come up short and are OB. Larry goes long and splashes water. Tony drops his in the middle of the green. Jonathan�s second ends up in the middle of the green. Jesse�s 2nd threatens to go long but drops in the back right. Larry�s 2nd gets flat and glides over the green long and wet. Larry�s 3rd turns over and lands safe in the front right corner.
Everyone played a safe up after they were on the green.
Jonathan 5 - 27
Jesse 5 - 29
Larry 7 - 32
Tony 3 - 31
Larry and Tony swap spots!
jefferson
Oct 02 2007, 11:07 AM
"They�re going to sudden death! Larry and Tony are tied."
stack
Oct 02 2007, 11:08 AM
congrats Jonathan & Jesse... now the playoff playoff
Jonathan 5 - 32
Jesse 5 - 34
Larry 3 - 35
Tony 4 - 35
Jonathan 5 - 32
Jesse 5 - 34
Larry 3 - 35
Tony 4 - 35
my_hero
Oct 02 2007, 11:11 AM
Hole - 9 (actually 18)
October 2nd, 2007 10:20 am
Everyone goes backhand and lands safe except for Jonathan who throws what looks like a nice roller. He hits leaves at the botton of a tree kicking right and going OB, but it is well up the fairway.
Tony�s upshot goes OB, Larry�s is safe up on the green but about 35 out with the basket 10 ft. below his feet. He makes the putt! Everyone�s going nuts.
They�re going to sudden death! Larry and Tony are tied.
Jonathan 5 - 32
Jesse 5 - 34
Larry 3 - 35
Tony 4 - 35
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Hole - 8 (actually 17)
October 2nd, 2007 10:13 am
Wind is blowing pretty stiff in the face plus it�s swirling. This hole is treacherous!
Jonathan and Jesse come up short and are OB. Larry goes long and splashes water. Tony drops his in the middle of the green. Jonathan�s second ends up in the middle of the green. Jesse�s 2nd threatens to go long but drops in the back right. Larry�s 2nd gets flat and glides over the green long and wet. Larry�s 3rd turns over and lands safe in the front right corner.
Everyone played a safe up after they were on the green.
Jonathan 5 - 27
Jesse 5 - 29
Larry 7 - 32
Tony 3 - 31
Larry and Tony swap spots!
October 2nd, 2007 10:20 am
Everyone goes backhand and lands safe except for Jonathan who throws what looks like a nice roller. He hits leaves at the botton of a tree kicking right and going OB, but it is well up the fairway.
Tony�s upshot goes OB, Larry�s is safe up on the green but about 35 out with the basket 10 ft. below his feet. He makes the putt! Everyone�s going nuts.
They�re going to sudden death! Larry and Tony are tied.
Jonathan 5 - 32
Jesse 5 - 34
Larry 3 - 35
Tony 4 - 35
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Hole - 8 (actually 17)
October 2nd, 2007 10:13 am
Wind is blowing pretty stiff in the face plus it�s swirling. This hole is treacherous!
Jonathan and Jesse come up short and are OB. Larry goes long and splashes water. Tony drops his in the middle of the green. Jonathan�s second ends up in the middle of the green. Jesse�s 2nd threatens to go long but drops in the back right. Larry�s 2nd gets flat and glides over the green long and wet. Larry�s 3rd turns over and lands safe in the front right corner.
Everyone played a safe up after they were on the green.
Jonathan 5 - 27
Jesse 5 - 29
Larry 7 - 32
Tony 3 - 31
Larry and Tony swap spots!
stack
Oct 02 2007, 11:17 AM
what DRAMA!
Hole 18 Sudden Death
October 2nd, 2007 10:37 am
Larry�s drive goes OB but his 2nd shot makes the corner. Tony�s second goes OB he catches metal and is parked. Larry�s 3rd comes up short but he makes a tough down hill putt. Still tied.
Hole 18 Sudden Death
October 2nd, 2007 10:37 am
Larry�s drive goes OB but his 2nd shot makes the corner. Tony�s second goes OB he catches metal and is parked. Larry�s 3rd comes up short but he makes a tough down hill putt. Still tied.
my_hero
Oct 02 2007, 11:26 AM
2nd Hole of Sudden Death (Hole 1)
October 2nd, 2007 10:44 am
Wind�s really kicking up strong. Larry tees first, catches wood but a good kick sends him into the fairway. His up shot goes long. Tony�s turnover as he calls, get newer. It�s a putt but a long one, maybe 30 footer, he misses. Larry hits a tough downhill putt into a tough wind. We�re still tied.
October 2nd, 2007 10:44 am
Wind�s really kicking up strong. Larry tees first, catches wood but a good kick sends him into the fairway. His up shot goes long. Tony�s turnover as he calls, get newer. It�s a putt but a long one, maybe 30 footer, he misses. Larry hits a tough downhill putt into a tough wind. We�re still tied.
my_hero
Oct 02 2007, 11:34 AM
It's been too long. I think they are celebrating and forgot about us......
stack
Oct 02 2007, 11:45 AM
well thats it... final list of top 5 qualifying...
Cale
McRee
Jesse
Jonathan
Tony
and there still should be a BIG surprise for one of the 5 qualifiers!!!
Sick qualifiers this year... 64 (rated ~1030?) just to playoff!!!
Cale
McRee
Jesse
Jonathan
Tony
and there still should be a BIG surprise for one of the 5 qualifiers!!!
Sick qualifiers this year... 64 (rated ~1030?) just to playoff!!!
lefty_anhyzer
Oct 02 2007, 11:49 AM
Awesome. Congrats Tony! Way to represent Little Wing!
yolatengo77
Oct 02 2007, 11:50 AM
It's been too long. I think they are celebrating and forgot about us......
Just some computer problems. Check it out here:
USDGC Blog (http://USDGCBlog.com)
Thanks,
Jerry
DiscGolfCenter.com (http://www.DiscGolfCenter.com)
Just some computer problems. Check it out here:
USDGC Blog (http://USDGCBlog.com)
Thanks,
Jerry
DiscGolfCenter.com (http://www.DiscGolfCenter.com)
jefferson
Oct 02 2007, 12:03 PM
looks like a great start to the greatest tournament
magilla
Oct 02 2007, 12:08 PM
I hear Bennett played a few practice rounds Sunday at 63, 62, and... He was so focused after two rounds that he FORGOT IT WAS HIS BIRTHDAY. He was reminded of the birthday and told to cash in on the birthday luck by playing a third round and going for everything... aced 17 and shot a 56!
This is 3rd-person info (heard it from a person who heard it from Bennett) so take it with a grain of salt, but **** that sounds sick.
Go Bennett! (my favorite to win)
And Go "Lepricon" Koontz! (my favorite rookie)
Nice story BUT wasnt Bennett taking 2nd in NC this past Sat & SUN?? :o
This is 3rd-person info (heard it from a person who heard it from Bennett) so take it with a grain of salt, but **** that sounds sick.
Go Bennett! (my favorite to win)
And Go "Lepricon" Koontz! (my favorite rookie)
Nice story BUT wasnt Bennett taking 2nd in NC this past Sat & SUN?? :o
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 12:08 PM
heck I say let all 4 of them all play the USDGC...
kellerthedog
Oct 02 2007, 12:22 PM
where can you find a list of registered players? or is it shrouded in secrecy until tomorrow?
rob
Oct 02 2007, 12:24 PM
www.usdgc.com (http://www.usdgc.com)
kellerthedog
Oct 02 2007, 12:25 PM
nice, didnt see that competitors link b4 much obliged
stack
Oct 02 2007, 12:49 PM
here's some interesting info (inspired by mp3's idea)
This year you had to shoot over a 1030 rated round (roughly) to even get into the playoff spot... last year it was right @ or just above 1000 (70)
looking @ the final spots for each qualifier... the 'toughest' spot was won by John Child @ the Memorial (fittingly the first event) where he averaged a 1018. (Geoff Bennett did have to shoot a 1028.5 to take the Charlotte Open spot but thats not a qualifier... just the club being nice and giving away the sponsorship spot to the best in the tourney)
I'll post the rest in a minute but of the 18 events (dont have ratings for Marshall Street or Euro Open so i'm not counting them)... only on 2 other events where even over 1010 (KC Wide Open @ 1012 & Bowling Green @ 1010.5)
This year you had to shoot over a 1030 rated round (roughly) to even get into the playoff spot... last year it was right @ or just above 1000 (70)
looking @ the final spots for each qualifier... the 'toughest' spot was won by John Child @ the Memorial (fittingly the first event) where he averaged a 1018. (Geoff Bennett did have to shoot a 1028.5 to take the Charlotte Open spot but thats not a qualifier... just the club being nice and giving away the sponsorship spot to the best in the tourney)
I'll post the rest in a minute but of the 18 events (dont have ratings for Marshall Street or Euro Open so i'm not counting them)... only on 2 other events where even over 1010 (KC Wide Open @ 1012 & Bowling Green @ 1010.5)
ActiveCurrent
Oct 02 2007, 12:59 PM
Pictures are up of the final qualifying playoff.
Official USDGC website. (http://usdgc.com/gallery07/tuesday/index.html)
Official USDGC website. (http://usdgc.com/gallery07/tuesday/index.html)
stack
Oct 02 2007, 01:14 PM
This may not look right (formatting) once posted but it'll be the tourney, then last place qualifier, then avg round rating and finally the place they finished in the tourney (* for masters followed by where they would've finished in the pro ranks)
The Memorial
John Child
1018 t9-12th
The British Open
Espen
999.66 5th
Gator Country
Scott Schloten
997.5 t7-8th
TX State Champs
J.D. Ramirez
1000.33 6th
Bowling Green
Kris Orrick
1010.5 t9-10th
Golden State
Mike Raley
1009.66 14th
Steady Ed
Jim Myers
1002.33 *4th (pro 13th)
Beaver State
Tim Skellenger
1000.5 13th
Virginia Open
Mike Hofmann
1006 t5-7th
Minnesota Majestic
Chris Sprague
1003.66 t12-15th
High Plains
Rod Baca
1007 *3 (6th pro)
KC Wide Open
Ron Convers
1012 *1 (t9-11 pro)
Canadian Open
Alex Hughes
1000.66 13th
Skelleftea Open
Hans/Hasse
1007 8th
Hambrick Memorial
Tyler Horn
1006 16th
Worlds
Chris Heeren
1002 t32-33rd
Marshall Street
Craig Gangloff
???? 13th
European Open
Jalle Stoor
???? t19-20th
WV Open
Linc Morgan
1001.66 13th
Southern Nationals
Todd Rowell
1002.25 6th
***Charlotte Open
Geoff Bennett
1028.5 t2-3rd
***Monday Qualifier
Tony Gerling
~1030 t5-7th
didnt take into account States that might have a tourney to decide who gets the spot... post those if you want.
The Memorial
John Child
1018 t9-12th
The British Open
Espen
999.66 5th
Gator Country
Scott Schloten
997.5 t7-8th
TX State Champs
J.D. Ramirez
1000.33 6th
Bowling Green
Kris Orrick
1010.5 t9-10th
Golden State
Mike Raley
1009.66 14th
Steady Ed
Jim Myers
1002.33 *4th (pro 13th)
Beaver State
Tim Skellenger
1000.5 13th
Virginia Open
Mike Hofmann
1006 t5-7th
Minnesota Majestic
Chris Sprague
1003.66 t12-15th
High Plains
Rod Baca
1007 *3 (6th pro)
KC Wide Open
Ron Convers
1012 *1 (t9-11 pro)
Canadian Open
Alex Hughes
1000.66 13th
Skelleftea Open
Hans/Hasse
1007 8th
Hambrick Memorial
Tyler Horn
1006 16th
Worlds
Chris Heeren
1002 t32-33rd
Marshall Street
Craig Gangloff
???? 13th
European Open
Jalle Stoor
???? t19-20th
WV Open
Linc Morgan
1001.66 13th
Southern Nationals
Todd Rowell
1002.25 6th
***Charlotte Open
Geoff Bennett
1028.5 t2-3rd
***Monday Qualifier
Tony Gerling
~1030 t5-7th
didnt take into account States that might have a tourney to decide who gets the spot... post those if you want.
whorley
Oct 02 2007, 01:19 PM
Hole 17:
Jonathan and Jesse come up short and are OB. Larry goes long and splashes water. Tony drops his in the middle of the green. Jonathan�s second ends up in the middle of the green. Jesse�s 2nd threatens to go long but drops in the back right. Larry�s 2nd gets flat and glides over the green long and wet. Larry�s 3rd turns over and lands safe in the front right corner.
Everyone played a safe up after they were on the green.
Jonathan 5 - 27
Jesse 5 - 29
Larry 7 - 32
Tony 3 - 31
Larry and Tony swap spots!
If I were Mr. Duval, I would apologize to Larry. Larry played better disc golf this morning, but, unfortunately, IMO our sport's national championship is not played on a real disc golf course. Down with silly string, hay bales, clown's mouths, and all fabricated OB!
Jonathan and Jesse come up short and are OB. Larry goes long and splashes water. Tony drops his in the middle of the green. Jonathan�s second ends up in the middle of the green. Jesse�s 2nd threatens to go long but drops in the back right. Larry�s 2nd gets flat and glides over the green long and wet. Larry�s 3rd turns over and lands safe in the front right corner.
Everyone played a safe up after they were on the green.
Jonathan 5 - 27
Jesse 5 - 29
Larry 7 - 32
Tony 3 - 31
Larry and Tony swap spots!
If I were Mr. Duval, I would apologize to Larry. Larry played better disc golf this morning, but, unfortunately, IMO our sport's national championship is not played on a real disc golf course. Down with silly string, hay bales, clown's mouths, and all fabricated OB!
jefferson
Oct 02 2007, 01:22 PM
the water behind 17 is ReaL
lien83
Oct 02 2007, 01:22 PM
yep...kinda silly
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 01:24 PM
and what is really sad is our sport thinks this is the way of the future. you have tournaments all over the place putting string everywhere. :confused:
stack
Oct 02 2007, 01:24 PM
or Larry should feel bad about giving it away and should apologise to Mr. Duval for not taking advantage of the bailout points he put in... I know that hole is far from easy but he could've laid up and taken the 4 (possible 3) and kept his lead on Tony... same thing w/ the sudden death playoff
and the clowns mouth was gone last year
btw... i'm not saying all tournaments should be this way... just saying to use all the course designer gives you (even if it doesnt seem like much)... i like the quote that Gill gives in the Renny Clash DVD ... 'courses like this are the future of our sport' referring to Renny Gold. There are a lot of things that work @ USDGC that dont seem to work elsewhere... thats part of the allure behind it.
and the clowns mouth was gone last year
btw... i'm not saying all tournaments should be this way... just saying to use all the course designer gives you (even if it doesnt seem like much)... i like the quote that Gill gives in the Renny Clash DVD ... 'courses like this are the future of our sport' referring to Renny Gold. There are a lot of things that work @ USDGC that dont seem to work elsewhere... thats part of the allure behind it.
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 01:27 PM
and the clowns mouth was gone last year
I guess someone wised up and realized this is not PUTT PUTT GOLF :D
I guess someone wised up and realized this is not PUTT PUTT GOLF :D
stack
Oct 02 2007, 01:29 PM
and the clowns mouth was gone last year
I guess someone wised up and realized this is not PUTT PUTT GOLF :D
nah... they had to change it due to construction
I guess someone wised up and realized this is not PUTT PUTT GOLF :D
nah... they had to change it due to construction
kostar
Oct 02 2007, 01:32 PM
To be a hater!
PGA golf does the same thing with all majors. Growing the rough, moving the tees back and greens harder. Can't we just sit back and watch our national open unfold? Jezz!
PS. Hats off to the USDGC crew. This is the best week in discgolf. Let the games begin. Norris how many redbulls have you and stick had since sunday? Kevin got dotts ?
PGA golf does the same thing with all majors. Growing the rough, moving the tees back and greens harder. Can't we just sit back and watch our national open unfold? Jezz!
PS. Hats off to the USDGC crew. This is the best week in discgolf. Let the games begin. Norris how many redbulls have you and stick had since sunday? Kevin got dotts ?
DNA_2
Oct 02 2007, 01:38 PM
True, and congrats to Tony. I played with Tony last year at the USDGC and he is a good player and great person and believe me I know first hand about playoffs to get in the USDGC and the pressure it puts on you. Goodluck to all
stack
Oct 02 2007, 01:42 PM
Using the CalWCPtemp4.xls spreadsheet from the PDGA, Dave Marchant (on right � me on left)
http://www.charlottedgc.com/usdgc_07/stackinfo.jpg
has determined unofficial round ratings for all completed qualifiers rounds (for players with established PDGA player ratings). It took 1032 rated round to just get into the playoff, and a 1038 rated round to have a good night sleep last night. Wow!
http://www.charlottedgc.com/usdgc_07/ratings.htm
also...
According to the ratings calculator, here are the ratings for the 9 hole playoff:
Jesse Heinonen
34
994
Jonathan Pierce
32
1019
Larry Bledsoe
35
981
Tony Gerling
35
981
http://www.charlottedgc.com/usdgc_07/stackinfo.jpg
has determined unofficial round ratings for all completed qualifiers rounds (for players with established PDGA player ratings). It took 1032 rated round to just get into the playoff, and a 1038 rated round to have a good night sleep last night. Wow!
http://www.charlottedgc.com/usdgc_07/ratings.htm
also...
According to the ratings calculator, here are the ratings for the 9 hole playoff:
Jesse Heinonen
34
994
Jonathan Pierce
32
1019
Larry Bledsoe
35
981
Tony Gerling
35
981
gdstour
Oct 02 2007, 01:44 PM
"IMO our sport's national championship is not played on a real disc golf course. Down with silly string, hay bales, clown's mouths, and all fabricated OB!"
One of the main things I have always enjoyed about disc golf is we play in such a natural setting.
If there are players out there that do not think this is the direction our competition should go, maybe they could write the competition director to let him know how they feel.
Most likely nothing will change, but if enough people feel this way about where our sport is heading you never know. Its a unique event with a whole lot of money, that is run very well by our sports largest sponsor and promoter.
Its a dual edged sword and not anything the pdga themselves will be addressing anytime soon.
My question would be; If there wasn't a whole lot of money, would players still come to play a course with all of the man made OB's?
I think an anonymous poll taken of those who have ever played this event would be something interesting to see the results of. Ive heard a few say they love it and a few say they hate it, but what would be said if their response had no ramifications? :confused:
I played USDGC in 1997 (?) when there were only like 4 spots with yellow rope and it didnt seem like too much.
a few years ago Shawn Sinclair told me he went OB 22 times and came in 10th place for about $1,000.00.
22 OB strokes in 72 holes seems Crazy and whats even more crazy is that he still came in 10th and won a grand!! :confused: :confused:
One of the main things I have always enjoyed about disc golf is we play in such a natural setting.
If there are players out there that do not think this is the direction our competition should go, maybe they could write the competition director to let him know how they feel.
Most likely nothing will change, but if enough people feel this way about where our sport is heading you never know. Its a unique event with a whole lot of money, that is run very well by our sports largest sponsor and promoter.
Its a dual edged sword and not anything the pdga themselves will be addressing anytime soon.
My question would be; If there wasn't a whole lot of money, would players still come to play a course with all of the man made OB's?
I think an anonymous poll taken of those who have ever played this event would be something interesting to see the results of. Ive heard a few say they love it and a few say they hate it, but what would be said if their response had no ramifications? :confused:
I played USDGC in 1997 (?) when there were only like 4 spots with yellow rope and it didnt seem like too much.
a few years ago Shawn Sinclair told me he went OB 22 times and came in 10th place for about $1,000.00.
22 OB strokes in 72 holes seems Crazy and whats even more crazy is that he still came in 10th and won a grand!! :confused: :confused:
fritz
Oct 02 2007, 01:50 PM
Dave,
Is all the rope the reason you gave up your bid?
Is all the rope the reason you gave up your bid?
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 01:56 PM
To be a hater!
whatever we all have opinions.. :confused:
whatever we all have opinions.. :confused:
dougporter
Oct 02 2007, 01:59 PM
There is plenty of room in disc golf to have tournaments with artificial OB and tournaments without it. If you like the challenge of Par 70-ish disc golf without the artificial OB then work on getting courses like that in your area...
... and, come play the Flying Eye Open on the Crucible in Athens, GA, the week after the USDGC. Par 69, the natural way. Have made a few changes in the past 2 years and the course is the best it's ever been.
http://www.athensdiscgolf.com/tourn.html
Winthrop Gold is one of my favorite courses and one of very few that I get excited to play. Hole 5 is my favorite hole in the world and several others on that course are among my favorites. That said, I think a course where the driving force is OB is a bit clumsy. It takes away some of the chances for the recovery shot, which I think is the coolest shot in disc golf. It's a bit too black and white for me, I'm a smudgy gray sort of guy.
It took me a while to realize, but I think there's absolutely no difference between the clown's mouth and that yellow rope or that bamboo wall. Once you've decided to go beyond the landscape to help shape the course, what's the difference in what method you use?
But beyond that, except for aesthetics, I don't think there's a big difference between having artificial OB everywhere and real, made by nature, OB everywhere. I look forward to the day that we have Par 70-ish courses without it (and I suspect Harold does, too).
... and, come play the Flying Eye Open on the Crucible in Athens, GA, the week after the USDGC. Par 69, the natural way. Have made a few changes in the past 2 years and the course is the best it's ever been.
http://www.athensdiscgolf.com/tourn.html
Winthrop Gold is one of my favorite courses and one of very few that I get excited to play. Hole 5 is my favorite hole in the world and several others on that course are among my favorites. That said, I think a course where the driving force is OB is a bit clumsy. It takes away some of the chances for the recovery shot, which I think is the coolest shot in disc golf. It's a bit too black and white for me, I'm a smudgy gray sort of guy.
It took me a while to realize, but I think there's absolutely no difference between the clown's mouth and that yellow rope or that bamboo wall. Once you've decided to go beyond the landscape to help shape the course, what's the difference in what method you use?
But beyond that, except for aesthetics, I don't think there's a big difference between having artificial OB everywhere and real, made by nature, OB everywhere. I look forward to the day that we have Par 70-ish courses without it (and I suspect Harold does, too).
james_mccaine
Oct 02 2007, 02:01 PM
Long live every creative thing that separates the wheat from the chaffe. Allowing people to throw crappy shots with little to no consequence is a signature of way too many disc golf tournaments. It sounds like there are real consequences to bad shots at the USDGC. Embrace it.
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 02:02 PM
is a signature of way too many disc golf tournaments.
ah the legend and exactly how many tournaments have you ran oh mighty one??????
now back to the USDGC :D
ah the legend and exactly how many tournaments have you ran oh mighty one??????
now back to the USDGC :D
warwickdan
Oct 02 2007, 02:03 PM
if the hole is well-designed from a risk-reward standpoint, why does it matter if the OB is man-made or natural? if all that we would want from the standpoint of class, a well-run event, prize money, amenities, and the other things that make that venue so outstanding is in place why not create artificial OB in order to create an awesome playability experience on what otherwise would be a pretty wide-open course with no risk-reward?
stack
Oct 02 2007, 02:17 PM
people always complain about the bamboo wall and artificial obstacles but dont mention the cypress trees on hole 4 (pretty much the same thing). And the OB ropes are the same as having water running along the fairway (like your favorite hole #5).
to add the gray area do you think people should be allowed to play their disc from in the water?
and in response to sinclair being OB 22 times... (easier said than done) but keep it in the fairway and be happy that you can pick up your disc when you cross the rope instead of it being real OB (aka water) and losing a disc each time... sponsored player or not... that'd suck!
what i also find 'silly' is that people wait until this time of year to <female dog> about this course and the tourney. Did people forget about the biggest tournament all year long and only now remember to complain or are they waiting until there are enough people around the soapbox to try and whine to?
can we start another thread for 'USDGC whiners/complainers' and keep this one for tourney stats/coverage/info/positives ?!
to add the gray area do you think people should be allowed to play their disc from in the water?
and in response to sinclair being OB 22 times... (easier said than done) but keep it in the fairway and be happy that you can pick up your disc when you cross the rope instead of it being real OB (aka water) and losing a disc each time... sponsored player or not... that'd suck!
what i also find 'silly' is that people wait until this time of year to <female dog> about this course and the tourney. Did people forget about the biggest tournament all year long and only now remember to complain or are they waiting until there are enough people around the soapbox to try and whine to?
can we start another thread for 'USDGC whiners/complainers' and keep this one for tourney stats/coverage/info/positives ?!
dwiggmd
Oct 02 2007, 02:19 PM
David played with Jesse the first round and Tony the second round. Both great players and great folks to play disc golf with. Good luck to them both! Go Little Wing
rollinghedge
Oct 02 2007, 02:22 PM
Are we no longer allowed to have opinions?
maceman
Oct 02 2007, 02:29 PM
It is soooooo easy for you all to sit there in the comfort of your home or office and criticize this event and the methods it uses to test every player at every turn. You can say what ever you want about the test, is it a real test or a fake test? The real question is did you take the test, and the next question is did you pass or fail the test?
Is it better to take the steps and try move forward, or sit still and talk crap about the people that are taking the steps and working hard at moving forward.
Is it better to take the steps and try move forward, or sit still and talk crap about the people that are taking the steps and working hard at moving forward.
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 02:31 PM
man the people are sensitive. :Dthese are just opinions. lets move on... fore the love of pete
stack
Oct 02 2007, 02:31 PM
not saying that... just pointing out that people could give input/write letters/send emails all year that might actually help the event know how people feel but instead they wait until now to complain.
I have personal opinions about winthrop too... i personally would play a lot better if there wasnt any rope (can throw far but not accurate... you get the picture) but I know its needed and from being a spectator the last few years and helping out I also know that it makes it a lot more exciting
I have personal opinions about winthrop too... i personally would play a lot better if there wasnt any rope (can throw far but not accurate... you get the picture) but I know its needed and from being a spectator the last few years and helping out I also know that it makes it a lot more exciting
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 02:33 PM
complain.
big differnce between opinions and complaining. But I can tell you guys dont know what that is. good luck to all the participants and hopefulyl we will have radio (audio) for the rest of the week.
big differnce between opinions and complaining. But I can tell you guys dont know what that is. good luck to all the participants and hopefulyl we will have radio (audio) for the rest of the week.
maceman
Oct 02 2007, 02:38 PM
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but if you opinion is based on what you have heard and not on what you have experienced then it can't be a very good opinion can it?
Everything is real, the OB is real weather it is man made or natural. The Bamboo wall is real not imaginary, all of this stuff is real not unreal, and if you found yourself ob 22 times is that the fault of the course or the thrower? It is a test, as I said above did you pass or fail.....or did you choose to skip school that day?
Everything is real, the OB is real weather it is man made or natural. The Bamboo wall is real not imaginary, all of this stuff is real not unreal, and if you found yourself ob 22 times is that the fault of the course or the thrower? It is a test, as I said above did you pass or fail.....or did you choose to skip school that day?
whorley
Oct 02 2007, 02:39 PM
Best tournament on earth, hands down. Hole 5--best single disc golf hole on earth. HD--Best overall course designer IMO. Those are my opinions too.
I don't like artificial OB replacing rough--it's too penal and doesn't give a chance to recover. That's ok though, because Harold obviously doesn't think WG is a worthy test without it. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because he's a great course designer.
My real beef is hole 17 for two reasons. First, IMO it "counts more" than the other 17 holes. You can butcher any other par 3 on that course and the worst you might get is a quad. If you butcher hole 17 you can card a ten or worse(ask Jim Conrad). Second, it doesn't need hay bales IMO, it's a spectacular hole without them. Stick the pin right next to the water (~6ft), mix in a little wind and it's a world-class hole as-is. 17 is the new clown's mouth in my opinion.
Please don't take this as hate. Just my observations. Thanks Harold and Jonathan for the best tournament on earth!
I don't like artificial OB replacing rough--it's too penal and doesn't give a chance to recover. That's ok though, because Harold obviously doesn't think WG is a worthy test without it. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because he's a great course designer.
My real beef is hole 17 for two reasons. First, IMO it "counts more" than the other 17 holes. You can butcher any other par 3 on that course and the worst you might get is a quad. If you butcher hole 17 you can card a ten or worse(ask Jim Conrad). Second, it doesn't need hay bales IMO, it's a spectacular hole without them. Stick the pin right next to the water (~6ft), mix in a little wind and it's a world-class hole as-is. 17 is the new clown's mouth in my opinion.
Please don't take this as hate. Just my observations. Thanks Harold and Jonathan for the best tournament on earth!
ck34
Oct 02 2007, 02:39 PM
I think it's unfortunate that we don't have an easy way to emulate ball golf sand trap hazards rather than have the typical full shot automatic penalty by creating OB areas. The bamboo comes close to doing that but it's not inexpensive to do it in a way that would hold up in a public park. Not only that, our OB areas are sometimes the equivalent of a 2-shot penalty with reteeing being required. This reteeing requirement doesn't exist in ball golf, even on their island greens, with the exception of shots actually OB outside the course boundary, but not in a hazard (both DG & BG retee on lost tee shot). So our design attempts to boost challenge when foliage isn't available are more punitive than ball golf, especially on courses with lower SSAs than Winthrop Gold where any penalty is a higher percentage of your typical round score.
I particularly think that reteeing is unnecessarily punitive on holes 3 and 17 but I do applaud the addition of the layup zone on 17 this year. However, I would think the end of that layup area is where the drop zone should be when shooting OB off the tee. This would emulate ball golf island hole designs a little better. I asked Harold about it and his rationale is that since putting is easier in DG vs BG, and putting seems to have the highest anxiety in BG, he figured that he needed to create the anxiety on the drive rather than putting where it would be easier to do by producing the fear of reteeing (think Avery, 2006 final round hole 3).
I particularly think that reteeing is unnecessarily punitive on holes 3 and 17 but I do applaud the addition of the layup zone on 17 this year. However, I would think the end of that layup area is where the drop zone should be when shooting OB off the tee. This would emulate ball golf island hole designs a little better. I asked Harold about it and his rationale is that since putting is easier in DG vs BG, and putting seems to have the highest anxiety in BG, he figured that he needed to create the anxiety on the drive rather than putting where it would be easier to do by producing the fear of reteeing (think Avery, 2006 final round hole 3).
stack
Oct 02 2007, 02:50 PM
good points Chuck and maybe an elevated basket like Harold used in a few spots was a good way to emulate the anxiety of putting vs driving? A lot of thought goes into this which I think is great either way.
And fyi... 17 isnt the only crazy/tough par 3... I saw a 16 come in on a card on hole 3 yesterday
and complain/opinion... look @ the definitions of both... i'd say what people are saying on here could be called both (depending on what side of the gold rope they are on! ... maybe if there was a gold rope we'd know the difference instead of having so much gray area :D)
OPINION - 1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
COMPLAIN - to express dissatisfaction, pain, uneasiness, censure, resentment, or grief; find fault
And fyi... 17 isnt the only crazy/tough par 3... I saw a 16 come in on a card on hole 3 yesterday
and complain/opinion... look @ the definitions of both... i'd say what people are saying on here could be called both (depending on what side of the gold rope they are on! ... maybe if there was a gold rope we'd know the difference instead of having so much gray area :D)
OPINION - 1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
COMPLAIN - to express dissatisfaction, pain, uneasiness, censure, resentment, or grief; find fault
ck34
Oct 02 2007, 03:02 PM
I saw a 16 come in on a card on hole 3 yesterday
I assume that was a round the player DNF'd at that point and started over? I wouldn't expect to see that number during the event. I still think there should be a drop zone across the road like BG on hole 3 so a player has a better shot at a '4 save' than reteeing.
I assume that was a round the player DNF'd at that point and started over? I wouldn't expect to see that number during the event. I still think there should be a drop zone across the road like BG on hole 3 so a player has a better shot at a '4 save' than reteeing.
tbender
Oct 02 2007, 03:12 PM
#17 is a sucker pin. Duvall said it in DGW last winter.
It looks to me to be a sidearm shot to the hole. I guess we shouldn't require our best players to have all the shots in their bag.
It looks to me to be a sidearm shot to the hole. I guess we shouldn't require our best players to have all the shots in their bag.
ck34
Oct 02 2007, 03:13 PM
Am Nats qualifier shot 991
Mid-Nats qualifier shot 997
Mid-Nats qualifier shot 997
ck34
Oct 02 2007, 03:16 PM
It looks to me to be a sidearm shot to the hole. I guess we shouldn't require our best players to have all the shots in their bag.
Harold and other designers have been trying hard to make a forehand shot so desireable on some holes that anyone using a backhand has too high of a risk for the reward. It's tough to do as Harold points out that we have many backhand savants (as he puts it) at the highest level of our sport.
Harold and other designers have been trying hard to make a forehand shot so desireable on some holes that anyone using a backhand has too high of a risk for the reward. It's tough to do as Harold points out that we have many backhand savants (as he puts it) at the highest level of our sport.
august
Oct 02 2007, 04:03 PM
Asthetics. That's IS the difference, as you correctly stated.
I am a big proponent of asthetics in DG course design, mainly because I don't think enough attention has been paid to it in the past. Also, I think asthetically pleasing disc golf courses will go a long way in legitimizing disc golf in the general public's eye, which hopefully will lead to more awareness, bigger corporate sponsorship, and so on.
I invite all of you to come see the courses I have built in Virginia.
I admit that asthetics (beauty) is in the eye of the beholder, but not one person has ever told me that my courses are ugly.
I am a big proponent of asthetics in DG course design, mainly because I don't think enough attention has been paid to it in the past. Also, I think asthetically pleasing disc golf courses will go a long way in legitimizing disc golf in the general public's eye, which hopefully will lead to more awareness, bigger corporate sponsorship, and so on.
I invite all of you to come see the courses I have built in Virginia.
I admit that asthetics (beauty) is in the eye of the beholder, but not one person has ever told me that my courses are ugly.
stack
Oct 02 2007, 04:05 PM
Mike... where in VA? and do you have pics? I go up from time to time and am always looking for new courses to play!
T_Hizzle
Oct 02 2007, 04:21 PM
Three Rivers park district is paying $50,000 to add 6 holes to an exsisting 12 hole course in MN. The course name is Bryant Lake. TG is the designer and it will be a pay to play. This is the direction our sport needs to move.
MY .02
MY .02
memphisdiscgolf
Oct 02 2007, 04:21 PM
For those of you who like to follow random players and good stories....Mr. John Linton from Hernando, MS ( suburb of Memphis, TN ) ...qualified for the USDGC thru the Southern National Championship. John is at least 51 and is one of the best disc golfers I have ever seen...especially at that ADVANCED age.
I wonder how many disc golfers have played their way in who are over 50?
So good luck to John Linton! Hope you brought your cane!
I wonder how many disc golfers have played their way in who are over 50?
So good luck to John Linton! Hope you brought your cane!
MTL21676
Oct 02 2007, 04:36 PM
C'mon C Ware.
Look at what happened to Des at worlds.
There are 2 scenarios in our sport.
Agree and praise everything and no one notices.
Disagree and prove your case and all of the sudden you are complaining.
Until we get rid of this "no one can voice a negative opinion" attitude, our sport will NEVER grow.
My thoughts on all the rope has been stated on here many times - it automatically penalizes someone for being an inch away from someone. I could throw a shot and be out of bounds and you could throw right beside me and I'm OB and your IB, which I don't think is right.
Then people will say "well if you are that close to OB you threw a bad shot just like the person OB" to which I agree, you shouldn't be that close. However, is my bad shot that is IB so much better than your bad shot 2 inches beside me?
Then someone will say "well trees do the same thing, you can throw a shot and miss a tree by an inch and then someone can throw the exact shot and hit that tree" once again, that is true. However, even if that tree is hit, it still gives the player the opportunity to recover and make par.
Let's look at the major things about this course
3 - I don't have too problems with this OB at all - however, the re-tee thing is kinda crazy. To quote a USDGC player about the course and the OB, "I think it is crazy how the OB rule changes not only year to year, but hole to hole on the same course"
4 - No problem here
7 - the wall. Well, it would be such a boring pointless hole without the wall, so I can live it.
8 - OB in woods = terrible. Now we are taking the one-inch scenarios and using them both on the same hole. The OB has been said to make a woods course where trees are not, yet there are a good number of trees on this hole.
9 - any hole where people are trying to hit an outfield fence...well...
10 - 12 - the OB on these holes are needed if they are going to be kept where they are.
13 - this hole is a great hole. it is natural.
16 - No need for OB right
17 - the fact that there is a bail out is great, but I was told that the OB to the pin in line with the tee is about 10 feet then the basket is 10 feet from the water. Don't really understand that...
18 - OB right is needed for spectators.
Now this is what will happen. Even though I presented a negative opinion of some aspects of the course and said reasons why I felt this way, this will be seen as me complaining about the course or being upset that I am not playing or something silly like that.
Constructive criticism is a great thing, b/c no one individual will be 100% correct when it comes to opinions.
Look at what happened to Des at worlds.
There are 2 scenarios in our sport.
Agree and praise everything and no one notices.
Disagree and prove your case and all of the sudden you are complaining.
Until we get rid of this "no one can voice a negative opinion" attitude, our sport will NEVER grow.
My thoughts on all the rope has been stated on here many times - it automatically penalizes someone for being an inch away from someone. I could throw a shot and be out of bounds and you could throw right beside me and I'm OB and your IB, which I don't think is right.
Then people will say "well if you are that close to OB you threw a bad shot just like the person OB" to which I agree, you shouldn't be that close. However, is my bad shot that is IB so much better than your bad shot 2 inches beside me?
Then someone will say "well trees do the same thing, you can throw a shot and miss a tree by an inch and then someone can throw the exact shot and hit that tree" once again, that is true. However, even if that tree is hit, it still gives the player the opportunity to recover and make par.
Let's look at the major things about this course
3 - I don't have too problems with this OB at all - however, the re-tee thing is kinda crazy. To quote a USDGC player about the course and the OB, "I think it is crazy how the OB rule changes not only year to year, but hole to hole on the same course"
4 - No problem here
7 - the wall. Well, it would be such a boring pointless hole without the wall, so I can live it.
8 - OB in woods = terrible. Now we are taking the one-inch scenarios and using them both on the same hole. The OB has been said to make a woods course where trees are not, yet there are a good number of trees on this hole.
9 - any hole where people are trying to hit an outfield fence...well...
10 - 12 - the OB on these holes are needed if they are going to be kept where they are.
13 - this hole is a great hole. it is natural.
16 - No need for OB right
17 - the fact that there is a bail out is great, but I was told that the OB to the pin in line with the tee is about 10 feet then the basket is 10 feet from the water. Don't really understand that...
18 - OB right is needed for spectators.
Now this is what will happen. Even though I presented a negative opinion of some aspects of the course and said reasons why I felt this way, this will be seen as me complaining about the course or being upset that I am not playing or something silly like that.
Constructive criticism is a great thing, b/c no one individual will be 100% correct when it comes to opinions.
phluffhead
Oct 02 2007, 04:53 PM
I could throw a shot and be in bounds and you could throw right beside me and I'm OB and your IB, which I don't think is right.
What
What
MTL21676
Oct 02 2007, 04:55 PM
oops!
what I meant was I could throw and be out of bounds and you could throw right beside me and be in bounds.
I fixed it.
what I meant was I could throw and be out of bounds and you could throw right beside me and be in bounds.
I fixed it.
deoldphart
Oct 02 2007, 04:55 PM
USDG, brought about with great help from the Charlotte Disc Golf, and Winthrop Univ. Best course and Tnmt. Next. Which Blog is going to have the most current and detailed info in the am so I can get it on my desktop for quick recall. are tee times posted? Lets talk about this tnmt, course eval can begin on Sunday
Mini Thumber
Mini Thumber
krazyeye
Oct 02 2007, 04:56 PM
Same thing happens in all sports.
tkieffer
Oct 02 2007, 05:01 PM
That's why they call it a line, and why sportscasters use clich�s such as "it's a game of inches."
wyattcoggin
Oct 02 2007, 05:03 PM
Good call BigRock. We have to know what is going on tomorrow.
Robert If I don't see you before the OHO. I would love to debate this course with you pool side. while waiting for the putt off to start.
Robert If I don't see you before the OHO. I would love to debate this course with you pool side. while waiting for the putt off to start.
MTL21676
Oct 02 2007, 05:06 PM
haha!!
my_hero
Oct 02 2007, 05:14 PM
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but if you opinion is based on what you have heard and not on what you have experienced then it can't be a very good opinion can it?
Everything is real, the OB is real weather it is man made or natural. The Bamboo wall is real not imaginary, all of this stuff is real not unreal,.......It is a test, as I said above did you pass or fail.....or did you choose to skip school that day?
I've been invited to "The Test" five times. Sadly, i've only taken "The Test" two of those five times (Shame on me.) I can assure you one thing..... <font color="red"> It is a very hard test! </font> Passed it once cashing @ 47th, failed it miserably the 2nd time finishing 81st. :confused:
Once the chapter in my life involving 2 very young kids has come to a close, i can't wait to get back to Rock Hill.
Everything is real, the OB is real weather it is man made or natural. The Bamboo wall is real not imaginary, all of this stuff is real not unreal,.......It is a test, as I said above did you pass or fail.....or did you choose to skip school that day?
I've been invited to "The Test" five times. Sadly, i've only taken "The Test" two of those five times (Shame on me.) I can assure you one thing..... <font color="red"> It is a very hard test! </font> Passed it once cashing @ 47th, failed it miserably the 2nd time finishing 81st. :confused:
Once the chapter in my life involving 2 very young kids has come to a close, i can't wait to get back to Rock Hill.
stack
Oct 02 2007, 05:15 PM
From MTLs earlier post...
My thoughts on all the rope has been stated on here many times - it automatically penalizes someone for being an inch away from someone. I could throw a shot and be out of bounds and you could throw right beside me and I'm OB and your IB, which I don't think is right.
Then people will say "well if you are that close to OB you threw a bad shot just like the person OB" to which I agree, you shouldn't be that close. However, is my bad shot that is IB so much better than your bad shot 2 inches beside me?
Then someone will say "well trees do the same thing, you can throw a shot and miss a tree by an inch and then someone can throw the exact shot and hit that tree" once again, that is true. However, even if that tree is hit, it still gives the player the opportunity to recover and make par.
I think the scenario you forgot about is that you could throw a shot and be inches from mine but if you are in the lake then you are OB... thats an example of inches being good/bad as you mentioned
and I dont much of what you said as complaining ... more on the constructive criticism side and you raise some good points
and as i've mentioned before... ON WITH THE TOURNAMENT!!! :)
My thoughts on all the rope has been stated on here many times - it automatically penalizes someone for being an inch away from someone. I could throw a shot and be out of bounds and you could throw right beside me and I'm OB and your IB, which I don't think is right.
Then people will say "well if you are that close to OB you threw a bad shot just like the person OB" to which I agree, you shouldn't be that close. However, is my bad shot that is IB so much better than your bad shot 2 inches beside me?
Then someone will say "well trees do the same thing, you can throw a shot and miss a tree by an inch and then someone can throw the exact shot and hit that tree" once again, that is true. However, even if that tree is hit, it still gives the player the opportunity to recover and make par.
I think the scenario you forgot about is that you could throw a shot and be inches from mine but if you are in the lake then you are OB... thats an example of inches being good/bad as you mentioned
and I dont much of what you said as complaining ... more on the constructive criticism side and you raise some good points
and as i've mentioned before... ON WITH THE TOURNAMENT!!! :)
cgflesner
Oct 02 2007, 05:21 PM
Are we no longer allowed to have opinions?
They are forbidden!!!!!!!!!!!
They are forbidden!!!!!!!!!!!
Fishead_Tim
Oct 02 2007, 05:29 PM
I could throw a disc in a tree 2 meters high,.... you throw and land just below me by 2",... TD said 2 meter rule is in effect,... Why are you in bounds and I'm up a tree shooting 3?!,...
Oh that's right,.... GAME OF INCHES! :D
Oh that's right,.... GAME OF INCHES! :D
jefferson
Oct 02 2007, 05:31 PM
Agree and praise everything and no one notices.
Disagree and prove your case and all of the sudden you are complaining.
who has proved anything? how do you prove an opinion?
i guess you proved its your opinion.
Disagree and prove your case and all of the sudden you are complaining.
who has proved anything? how do you prove an opinion?
i guess you proved its your opinion.
jefferson
Oct 02 2007, 05:32 PM
Same thing happens in all sports.
That's why they call it a line, and why sportscasters use clich�s such as "it's a game of inches."
exactly
That's why they call it a line, and why sportscasters use clich�s such as "it's a game of inches."
exactly
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 05:56 PM
i hear you MTL :confused: people wonder why this sport is not taken seriously..
so land really did not play because the other guys wanted it more? if so Mace you gotta interview this guy during the week :p
are we going to get some updates live from the players meeting?? that would be cool
back to the USDGC
so land really did not play because the other guys wanted it more? if so Mace you gotta interview this guy during the week :p
are we going to get some updates live from the players meeting?? that would be cool
back to the USDGC
lien83
Oct 02 2007, 06:12 PM
I see a lot of people getting offended by others opinions and you just need to accept those and move on. Even with no rope or Mandos etc. people would then be complaining that the course is too easy!!...lets just enjoy the greatest thing that our sport has going for us right now!!!!! Go Randolph and Brummer
Luke Butch
Oct 02 2007, 06:19 PM
interview with CuTT please!!!
there were a few rumors on the course today about why he was a no show, but no one was really sure.
how is there no promotion about the Clash at Winthrop that happened today? Dave + Avery vs Marcus + Barry vs KC + Nate. Marcus had some great drives(including one that led to a tap in 3 on 888). wind made things tough, DVD should still be cool though. can't wait for the Schwey commentary
there were a few rumors on the course today about why he was a no show, but no one was really sure.
how is there no promotion about the Clash at Winthrop that happened today? Dave + Avery vs Marcus + Barry vs KC + Nate. Marcus had some great drives(including one that led to a tap in 3 on 888). wind made things tough, DVD should still be cool though. can't wait for the Schwey commentary
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 06:35 PM
Dave + Avery vs Marcus + Barry vs KC + Nate
sounds like some awesome golf to watch
sounds like some awesome golf to watch
stack
Oct 02 2007, 06:36 PM
nice!!... what type of scores got shot?
crusher
Oct 02 2007, 06:39 PM
This place can play very tough, trust me. Rope or no rope, we all have to play the same course.
This course is all about placing the shot and making the putt. I wish that I was playing this week but hole 15 ate my lunch yesterday.
I will be back!
This course is all about placing the shot and making the putt. I wish that I was playing this week but hole 15 ate my lunch yesterday.
I will be back!
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 06:43 PM
can we get some USDGC video on youtube??
good try though Craig I will be there one of these days , even if its for the qualifier...
good try though Craig I will be there one of these days , even if its for the qualifier...
Luke Butch
Oct 02 2007, 06:48 PM
nice!!... what type of scores got shot?
a 52 won it I believe.16 under course par. 1 eagle(888), 3 pars.
a 52 won it I believe.16 under course par. 1 eagle(888), 3 pars.
stack
Oct 02 2007, 06:52 PM
can we get some USDGC video on youtube??
good call... maybe Nature Boy could put up some professional looking clips from the Clash as a teaser as well?!
it seems like I have heard the DGTV guys explain why they said they wouldn't put up clips on youtube but I forget why or if that was just a rumor in the first place
either way... good idea
and thanks for the score Luke... crazy to think thats 'only' 4 strokes under the course record
good call... maybe Nature Boy could put up some professional looking clips from the Clash as a teaser as well?!
it seems like I have heard the DGTV guys explain why they said they wouldn't put up clips on youtube but I forget why or if that was just a rumor in the first place
either way... good idea
and thanks for the score Luke... crazy to think thats 'only' 4 strokes under the course record
crotts
Oct 02 2007, 07:08 PM
Dave George is my hero. Dont play Boyd Hill alone.
: ) :
: ) :
deoldphart
Oct 02 2007, 07:12 PM
no no :o, keep MTL away from the pool, the slide, the sliiiiiidddddeeeee :D
dwiggmd
Oct 02 2007, 07:13 PM
Jason Land, aka JLand, aka Cutt, aka JIMI Cutterz, aka UniTTy decided to gracefully bow out of the competition. When asked why he was still at the hotel instead of on the course, Jason simply replied, �They want it more than I do.�
It seems that all the nick names miss the mark - Saint Jason would be more accurate and fitting I think. I propose we add that to the list of nicks ;)
It seems that all the nick names miss the mark - Saint Jason would be more accurate and fitting I think. I propose we add that to the list of nicks ;)
ninafofitre
Oct 02 2007, 07:14 PM
nice!!... what type of scores got shot?
a 52 won it I believe.16 under course par. 1 eagle(888), 3 pars.
pssssssst pulease..... McCoy/Hatfield would have shot 41 :D
a 52 won it I believe.16 under course par. 1 eagle(888), 3 pars.
pssssssst pulease..... McCoy/Hatfield would have shot 41 :D
crusher
Oct 02 2007, 07:30 PM
Thanks for the support Seeware!
As far as this course at Winthrop, you will see the need for rope here, and you will not understand it until you play it. Players may not always agree on some of the placements of rope, but the point is that we just need to hit tighter targets because skill and course management is what it takes to win here.
I will say that as a disc golfer, your goal should be to get into this event and experience the things that "will" help make us a legitimate sport. USDGC is the future of this game we play, and it will help lead us further into mainstream exposure.
I know that I will always be here playing or not playing. Since I didn't make it into the event, I have chosen to stay and watch my friends enjoy playing here. I have the chance to caddie for Valarie Jenkins for the first round on Wednesday, I have always wanted the chance to watch her play.
Even if you get the chance to come for a vacation and watch it is worth it!
As far as this course at Winthrop, you will see the need for rope here, and you will not understand it until you play it. Players may not always agree on some of the placements of rope, but the point is that we just need to hit tighter targets because skill and course management is what it takes to win here.
I will say that as a disc golfer, your goal should be to get into this event and experience the things that "will" help make us a legitimate sport. USDGC is the future of this game we play, and it will help lead us further into mainstream exposure.
I know that I will always be here playing or not playing. Since I didn't make it into the event, I have chosen to stay and watch my friends enjoy playing here. I have the chance to caddie for Valarie Jenkins for the first round on Wednesday, I have always wanted the chance to watch her play.
Even if you get the chance to come for a vacation and watch it is worth it!
jefferson
Oct 02 2007, 08:19 PM
It seems that all the nick names miss the mark - Saint Jason would be more accurate and fitting I think. I propose we add that to the list of nicks ;)
St JAY
St JAY
dwiggmd
Oct 02 2007, 08:20 PM
Yes, that has a nice ring to it.
deoldphart
Oct 02 2007, 08:31 PM
Hey Real, you down there @ USDG
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 08:36 PM
Even if you get the chance to come for a vacation and watch it is worth it!
that is what it is sounding like..
I believe real is there earlier he said something about golf carts :D
that is what it is sounding like..
I believe real is there earlier he said something about golf carts :D
deoldphart
Oct 02 2007, 08:42 PM
Can anybody find tee times. I have a few things at work (yuck) to plan around? :mad:
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 08:44 PM
nope its usually on usdgc.com
i bet it shows up here first blog (http://www.usdgcblog.com/)
i bet it shows up here first blog (http://www.usdgcblog.com/)
ck34
Oct 02 2007, 08:45 PM
Traditionally, tee times are displayed at the player meeting then posted online after.
MTL21676
Oct 02 2007, 08:50 PM
i called a few players and no one answered - im asuming they are still in the players meeting....
or just ignoring me :D
or just ignoring me :D
seewhere
Oct 02 2007, 08:51 PM
need to give a shout out to the <font color="orange"> TEXAS </font> Guys at USDGC
Robbie houston
Vinnie ROUND ROCK
Nolan Arlington
Alex Dallas area..
GOOD LUCK !!!!!
Robbie houston
Vinnie ROUND ROCK
Nolan Arlington
Alex Dallas area..
GOOD LUCK !!!!!
deoldphart
Oct 02 2007, 09:20 PM
I wanna see dots, dots, and don't mess with-em,dots. Mike more dots.
Mini & Multiple Thumber
Mini & Multiple Thumber
rickb
Oct 02 2007, 10:21 PM
Thanks for the support Seeware!
As far as this course at Winthrop, you will see the need for rope here, and you will not understand it until you play it. Players may not always agree on some of the placements of rope, but the point is that we just need to hit tighter targets because skill and course management is what it takes to win here.
I will say that as a disc golfer, your goal should be to get into this event and experience the things that "will" help make us a legitimate sport. USDGC is the future of this game we play, and it will help lead us further into mainstream exposure.
I know that I will always be here playing or not playing. Since I didn't make it into the event, I have chosen to stay and watch my friends enjoy playing here. I have the chance to caddie for Valarie Jenkins for the first round on Wednesday, I have always wanted the chance to watch her play.
Even if you get the chance to come for a vacation and watch it is worth it!
Most people won't understand the artificial OB because they won't have the chance to play the course or see the course. The one thing to consider is whether you like it or hate it, the competitors think it's fair. It places more of a emphisis on control and smart decisions rather than pure distance and luck.
And Craig is right in that everyone that considers themselves a fan of the game should come here at least once. I know of a few folks that didn't qualify on Monday that are sticking around for the week just to be apart of this incredible event. Even as a spectator the USDGC offers you so much to take in. Truly something you will never forget and once you've been here you'll always find yourself wanting to come back.
That being said I have to comment on something I saw yesterday. I had the privelage of walking with Leyva, Kirk Yoo, Jeff Davis and Chris Benson for the 1st qualifying round on Monday. While I witnessed some booming throws and precision placement, one shot stands out in particular.
Leyva is on 888. After two OB throws he rips a hyzer ROC shot about 400 feet from the pin. This thing is screaming as it slams chains. Unfortunately it bounces out about 20 feet away. All this while a work crew is standing 80 feet away. they all turned when the disc crashed the chains. And the best part is he makes it look so effortless. Next year qualify early.
Good luck all.
As far as this course at Winthrop, you will see the need for rope here, and you will not understand it until you play it. Players may not always agree on some of the placements of rope, but the point is that we just need to hit tighter targets because skill and course management is what it takes to win here.
I will say that as a disc golfer, your goal should be to get into this event and experience the things that "will" help make us a legitimate sport. USDGC is the future of this game we play, and it will help lead us further into mainstream exposure.
I know that I will always be here playing or not playing. Since I didn't make it into the event, I have chosen to stay and watch my friends enjoy playing here. I have the chance to caddie for Valarie Jenkins for the first round on Wednesday, I have always wanted the chance to watch her play.
Even if you get the chance to come for a vacation and watch it is worth it!
Most people won't understand the artificial OB because they won't have the chance to play the course or see the course. The one thing to consider is whether you like it or hate it, the competitors think it's fair. It places more of a emphisis on control and smart decisions rather than pure distance and luck.
And Craig is right in that everyone that considers themselves a fan of the game should come here at least once. I know of a few folks that didn't qualify on Monday that are sticking around for the week just to be apart of this incredible event. Even as a spectator the USDGC offers you so much to take in. Truly something you will never forget and once you've been here you'll always find yourself wanting to come back.
That being said I have to comment on something I saw yesterday. I had the privelage of walking with Leyva, Kirk Yoo, Jeff Davis and Chris Benson for the 1st qualifying round on Monday. While I witnessed some booming throws and precision placement, one shot stands out in particular.
Leyva is on 888. After two OB throws he rips a hyzer ROC shot about 400 feet from the pin. This thing is screaming as it slams chains. Unfortunately it bounces out about 20 feet away. All this while a work crew is standing 80 feet away. they all turned when the disc crashed the chains. And the best part is he makes it look so effortless. Next year qualify early.
Good luck all.
mikenorris
Oct 02 2007, 10:54 PM
Kevin Smith (Dot1) and I practiced doing the dots today for a while with the doubles going on. We are now working on them tonight to clean up a few things. Planning to do more testing tomorrow. Who will be the test group???
stack
Oct 02 2007, 11:00 PM
how about testing on Peckham & Markus teeing ~12:30?
13273
Oct 02 2007, 11:53 PM
Good Luck to ALL at the USDGC
<font color="green"> And a Special Shout out to California </font>
Gregg Barsby 1017 Grass Valley CA
Josh Anthon 1030 Rio Linda CA
Phillip Brathwaite 997 Tujunga CA
John Child 1002 Cotati CA
Kevin Couch 986 Rescue CA
Kyle Crabtree 1020 Santa Maria CA
Micah Dorius 1030 San Diego CA
Nathan Doss 1031 Capitola CA
Dave Dunipace 968 Rancho Cucamonga CA
Sam Ferrans 978 Rancho Cucamonga CA
Marty Hapner 961 Santa Cruz CA
Myles Harding 992 Watsonville CA
Robert McIntee 999 Huntington Beach CA
Steve Rico 1031 Sylmar CA
Michael Williams 970 La Mirada CA
Steve Wisecup 1011 Upland CA
<font color="green"> And a Special Shout out to California </font>
Gregg Barsby 1017 Grass Valley CA
Josh Anthon 1030 Rio Linda CA
Phillip Brathwaite 997 Tujunga CA
John Child 1002 Cotati CA
Kevin Couch 986 Rescue CA
Kyle Crabtree 1020 Santa Maria CA
Micah Dorius 1030 San Diego CA
Nathan Doss 1031 Capitola CA
Dave Dunipace 968 Rancho Cucamonga CA
Sam Ferrans 978 Rancho Cucamonga CA
Marty Hapner 961 Santa Cruz CA
Myles Harding 992 Watsonville CA
Robert McIntee 999 Huntington Beach CA
Steve Rico 1031 Sylmar CA
Michael Williams 970 La Mirada CA
Steve Wisecup 1011 Upland CA
stack
Oct 03 2007, 12:00 AM
TAILGATING SATURDAY!
Reminder the Charlotte Disc Golf Club is going to be tailgating during the finals again on Saturday (between hole 3 and Charlie's house).
We are in need of a grill this year so if anyone can help the CDGC will be forever grateful and take care of you for your good deeds.
(fyi... this comes from 'the burro')
GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE TOMORROW!!!!
Reminder the Charlotte Disc Golf Club is going to be tailgating during the finals again on Saturday (between hole 3 and Charlie's house).
We are in need of a grill this year so if anyone can help the CDGC will be forever grateful and take care of you for your good deeds.
(fyi... this comes from 'the burro')
GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE TOMORROW!!!!
deoldphart
Oct 03 2007, 05:22 AM
Is the tee times a secret still, or can we post them so we know when to our favorites are birdying. Post them here, we won't tell the players.
mikenorris
Oct 03 2007, 07:28 AM
rocky the web team did not receive the electronic file of tee times last night. The first tee time is 8:00. We should have things posted by this time. We are about to head to the course now..
lowe
Oct 03 2007, 07:41 AM
Craig,
I know you're bummed that you don't get to play. I was pulling for you. Have fun caddying for Val!
Lowe
I know you're bummed that you don't get to play. I was pulling for you. Have fun caddying for Val!
Lowe
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 07:42 AM
Wow. Cali has 16 players and there are 24 who qualified from outside the country. That's about a quarter of the field by my estimations. Wierd qualification process. Maybe the Dogwood not being a qualifier had something to do with that.
Take away Sam Nicholson, Bradon Kilby and Harold Duvall, who are special exempions, and NC only has 6 players, VA only has 3, and SC, the host state, only has 1 who qualified before Monday.
Take away Sam Nicholson, Bradon Kilby and Harold Duvall, who are special exempions, and NC only has 6 players, VA only has 3, and SC, the host state, only has 1 who qualified before Monday.
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 07:46 AM
OK, enough 'observations' from me for the week...
WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! The greatest tournament in all the land is about to get started. Good luck everyone not from VA! (trying some reverse juju)
Thank you Harold and Jonathan for putting on the greatest disc golf show on earth! I wish I could be there.
WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! The greatest tournament in all the land is about to get started. Good luck everyone not from VA! (trying some reverse juju)
Thank you Harold and Jonathan for putting on the greatest disc golf show on earth! I wish I could be there.
stack
Oct 03 2007, 08:40 AM
anyone know if anyone has done this before? i'd assume some of the top pros would've if they've carded mid/high 50's out there.
will be interesting to see who wins it and big ups to Millenium for offering such a prize!
Millenium Discs Bounty
Millenium Discs has stepped up this year and has offered a $500 bounty to the first round with no out of bounds strokes while shooing par or better. Many players erupted with joy as they heard this and everyone started looking around trying to figure out who might be the first person to accomplish this task.
will be interesting to see who wins it and big ups to Millenium for offering such a prize!
Millenium Discs Bounty
Millenium Discs has stepped up this year and has offered a $500 bounty to the first round with no out of bounds strokes while shooing par or better. Many players erupted with joy as they heard this and everyone started looking around trying to figure out who might be the first person to accomplish this task.
seewhere
Oct 03 2007, 08:48 AM
Tee times (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6283#Open)
let the fun begin do we have a camera on hole # 1 ?
let the fun begin do we have a camera on hole # 1 ?
rollinghedge
Oct 03 2007, 08:57 AM
C'mon Schusterick and KO. Bring home the <font color="green"> ca$h! </font>
Is there going to be live scoring? I think they were doing updates every six or so holes last year...
Is there going to be live scoring? I think they were doing updates every six or so holes last year...
august
Oct 03 2007, 08:59 AM
Mike... where in VA? and do you have pics? I go up from time to time and am always looking for new courses to play!
Check out the directory for New Quarter Park in Williamsburg. I was head designer and construction manager on that one. I also was substantially involved in building Walnut Creek in Charlottesville (check out the current Disc Golf Magazine article). The other one is near Richmond, but is very private and not available to the public. I don't have any pics unfortunately.
No artificial anything on these courses.
Check out the directory for New Quarter Park in Williamsburg. I was head designer and construction manager on that one. I also was substantially involved in building Walnut Creek in Charlottesville (check out the current Disc Golf Magazine article). The other one is near Richmond, but is very private and not available to the public. I don't have any pics unfortunately.
No artificial anything on these courses.
jefferson
Oct 03 2007, 09:01 AM
and its underway...
not there yet, but will be tonight
not there yet, but will be tonight
stack
Oct 03 2007, 09:06 AM
Awesome stuff... will def. check out those courses. I went to school just south of Charlottesville and get up that way from time to time and my in-laws are in VA Beach and I usually drive out to play Newport News so Williamsburg is no problem. Looking forward to it!
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 09:06 AM
OUch! Bard and J-Bird with early tee times.
jefferson
Oct 03 2007, 09:11 AM
congraTTs to the Golden Pitchfork winner Billy Crump and the Microtel Disc Golfer of the year Larry Bledsoe.
stack
Oct 03 2007, 09:18 AM
did anyone notice there are 4 3'somes out there on the tee times chart?
http://www.usdgc.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/2007-usdgc-round-one-tee-times.pdf
wouldn't that mean that they could've opened up Monday for top 9 spots instead of 5 this year? oh well... on with the show!
some notable tee times...
Bard Soleng 8:08 AM
Michael Johansen 8:40 AM
Geoff Bennett 8:48 AM
Brian Schweberger 9:04 AM
Ken Climo 9:20 AM
Joe Mela 9:20 AM
Sjur Soleng 9:52 AM
Coda Hatfield 10:00 AM
Avery Jenkins 10:00 AM
Steve Rico 10:16 AM
Valarie Jenkins 10:32 AM
Steve Brinster 11:20 AM
Barry Schultz 12:00 PM
Markus K�llstr�m 12:16 PM
Matt Peckham 12:16 PM
Nathan Doss 1:04 PM
David Feldberg 1:12 PM
Josh Anthon 1:20 PM
http://www.usdgc.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/2007-usdgc-round-one-tee-times.pdf
wouldn't that mean that they could've opened up Monday for top 9 spots instead of 5 this year? oh well... on with the show!
some notable tee times...
Bard Soleng 8:08 AM
Michael Johansen 8:40 AM
Geoff Bennett 8:48 AM
Brian Schweberger 9:04 AM
Ken Climo 9:20 AM
Joe Mela 9:20 AM
Sjur Soleng 9:52 AM
Coda Hatfield 10:00 AM
Avery Jenkins 10:00 AM
Steve Rico 10:16 AM
Valarie Jenkins 10:32 AM
Steve Brinster 11:20 AM
Barry Schultz 12:00 PM
Markus K�llstr�m 12:16 PM
Matt Peckham 12:16 PM
Nathan Doss 1:04 PM
David Feldberg 1:12 PM
Josh Anthon 1:20 PM
mikenorris
Oct 03 2007, 09:28 AM
Is there going to be live scoring? I think they were doing updates every six or so holes last year...
Check USDGC.com (http://www.usdgc.com) for scoring updates. We will be posting a link to scores once players start to reach hole 7. All players scores will be updated every 6 holes.
Check USDGC.com (http://www.usdgc.com) for scoring updates. We will be posting a link to scores once players start to reach hole 7. All players scores will be updated every 6 holes.
rollinghedge
Oct 03 2007, 09:32 AM
SWEET. Thanks for doing it!
Edit: SCORES (http://www.usdgc.com/leaderboard/)
Edit: SCORES (http://www.usdgc.com/leaderboard/)
Hagan097
Oct 03 2007, 09:46 AM
Dave George is my hero. Dont play Boyd Hill alone.
Do tell.
Do tell.
riverdog
Oct 03 2007, 10:10 AM
Dave George is my hero. Dont play Boyd Hill alone.
Do tell.
No, really, DO TELL!! Let's hear the story. :)
Do tell.
No, really, DO TELL!! Let's hear the story. :)
esalazar
Oct 03 2007, 10:28 AM
need to give a shout out to the <font color="orange"> TEXAS </font> Guys at USDGC
Robbie houston
Vinnie ROUND ROCK
Nolan Arlington
Alex Dallas area..
GOOD LUCK !!!!!
And Mike Olse from austin..
Robbie houston
Vinnie ROUND ROCK
Nolan Arlington
Alex Dallas area..
GOOD LUCK !!!!!
And Mike Olse from austin..
jefferson
Oct 03 2007, 10:28 AM
SCORES UP (http://www.usdgc.com/leaderboard/)
JBird on fire-ahhhh
JBird on fire-ahhhh
rollinghedge
Oct 03 2007, 10:29 AM
OUch! Bard and J-Bird with early tee times.
J-bird doesn't seem to mind, -4 thru 6.
J-bird doesn't seem to mind, -4 thru 6.
jHarr
Oct 03 2007, 10:31 AM
thats confusing to have 2 J-birds in this thing (what are they friends or something?)... well, only one may actually contend
edit: reply #888!
edit: reply #888!
rollinghedge
Oct 03 2007, 10:38 AM
Yeah Schusterick, fighting back to even! Not bad for 14/15 year old. :eek:
seewhere
Oct 03 2007, 10:41 AM
did someone eagle # 12?
rollinghedge
Oct 03 2007, 10:43 AM
He can BOMB.
ck34
Oct 03 2007, 10:48 AM
Why aren't scores sorted based on over/under par regardless of number of holes played?
jefferson
Oct 03 2007, 10:48 AM
did someone eagle # 12?
yep, 1st eagle of the day to Will Schusterick
yep, 1st eagle of the day to Will Schusterick
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 10:51 AM
Live scoring every couple of holes is definitely one of the coolest things about the USDGC. Thanks to those who make that happen.
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 10:55 AM
thats confusing to have 2 J-birds
I think everyone named Jay is called Jay Bird. I have a cousin 'Jay Bird'. Just like everyone named Jeff is usually called [censored].
I think everyone named Jay is called Jay Bird. I have a cousin 'Jay Bird'. Just like everyone named Jeff is usually called [censored].
seewhere
Oct 03 2007, 10:56 AM
Why aren't scores sorted based on over/under par regardless of number of holes played?
scores (http://www.discgolfunited.com/index.cfm?DGUaction=Leaderboard.Round&thisLayout=Y ES&round=1)
scores (http://www.discgolfunited.com/index.cfm?DGUaction=Leaderboard.Round&thisLayout=Y ES&round=1)
Luke Butch
Oct 03 2007, 10:59 AM
rough start for geoff bennet with a 7 on #3
ck34
Oct 03 2007, 11:00 AM
scores
Not sorted by over/under par. That's the best way for showing where players are that have played a different number of holes. Standard format for all ball golf online displays. PDGA still doesn't have their live scoring software sorted by over/under yet either but I don't understand why it seems so hard to get this done?
Not sorted by over/under par. That's the best way for showing where players are that have played a different number of holes. Standard format for all ball golf online displays. PDGA still doesn't have their live scoring software sorted by over/under yet either but I don't understand why it seems so hard to get this done?
jefferson
Oct 03 2007, 11:02 AM
go to "round 1 all" instead of "overall"
memphisdiscgolf
Oct 03 2007, 11:02 AM
Jason Light, Matt Orum and Rod Baca all looking for the $500 bounty.
jefferson
Oct 03 2007, 11:03 AM
I think everyone named Jay is called Jay Bird. I have a cousin 'Jay Bird'. Just like everyone named Jeff is usually called [censored].
:D i cant believe they would censor that
:D i cant believe they would censor that
ck34
Oct 03 2007, 11:04 AM
R1 is all over the map with Shusterick listed three from the bottom but even overall and should be listed in the middle of the list with the other zero over/unders. Is it just my display?
tjeffreys
Oct 03 2007, 11:05 AM
schwebby 2 over after 6 :eek:
jefferson
Oct 03 2007, 11:08 AM
you're right, didnt see the bottom
how the hell did schweb 6 #5, its 2 thumbers?
how the hell did schweb 6 #5, its 2 thumbers?
seewhere
Oct 03 2007, 11:08 AM
round 1 is sorted by score :confused:
jefferson
Oct 03 2007, 11:10 AM
they seem to be having some issues when entering the 2nd 6. i believe board is -2
ck34
Oct 03 2007, 11:11 AM
I'm pretty sure it was this way last year with partially scrambled sorts. With all of the other hi-tech aspects they've done so well with scoring, I'm just surprised that getting the over/under sort seems to be such a problem.
jHarr
Oct 03 2007, 11:19 AM
I think everyone named Jay is called Jay Bird
yepyep
shoutout for michigan's J-bird discs mr matthes and all he does to support the lansing club, sponsoring a summer series, and the state of michigan in general...
tough 7 for bennett early
character builder- slay on geoff! http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/images/smilies/thatrocks.gif
yepyep
shoutout for michigan's J-bird discs mr matthes and all he does to support the lansing club, sponsoring a summer series, and the state of michigan in general...
tough 7 for bennett early
character builder- slay on geoff! http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/images/smilies/thatrocks.gif
ck34
Oct 03 2007, 11:21 AM
Hole 3 can be tough for a lefty/forehander.
tjeffreys
Oct 03 2007, 11:25 AM
next group coming in should be climo/mela
MTL21676
Oct 03 2007, 11:29 AM
schwebby on hole 4 (my guess)
good drive
2nd shot hits the cedar and goes OB
3rd drop
4th on green
5th missed putt
tap in 6
who knows though?
good drive
2nd shot hits the cedar and goes OB
3rd drop
4th on green
5th missed putt
tap in 6
who knows though?
MTL21676
Oct 03 2007, 11:31 AM
best group of the day :
Greenwell
Jenkins
Hatfield
Tegeback
Greenwell
Jenkins
Hatfield
Tegeback
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 11:31 AM
you're right, didnt see the bottom
how the hell did schweb 6 #5, its 2 thumbers?
He got a 6 on #4, and, yes, #5 is two thumbers for Schweb.
how the hell did schweb 6 #5, its 2 thumbers?
He got a 6 on #4, and, yes, #5 is two thumbers for Schweb.
MTL21676
Oct 03 2007, 11:35 AM
mela -3 through 6
KC -2 through 6
KC -2 through 6
ck34
Oct 03 2007, 11:36 AM
best group of the day :
Greenwell
Jenkins
Hatfield
Tegeback
Highest rated group. How about guesses on whether this foursome has the lowest total score as a group for today? If not them, then which group?
Greenwell
Jenkins
Hatfield
Tegeback
Highest rated group. How about guesses on whether this foursome has the lowest total score as a group for today? If not them, then which group?
stack
Oct 03 2007, 11:37 AM
rough start for geoff bennet with a 7 on #3
he throws backhand on that hole
he throws backhand on that hole
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 11:39 AM
1st group is in per PDGA.com
What's up with USDGC/DGU scoring? Seems to be lagging
What's up with USDGC/DGU scoring? Seems to be lagging
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 11:41 AM
How about guesses on whether this group has the lowest total score as a group for today?
More than likely one of the threesomes. 3 people will have lower "total score" than 4 usually.
More than likely one of the threesomes. 3 people will have lower "total score" than 4 usually.
MTL21676
Oct 03 2007, 11:44 AM
rough start for geoff bennet with a 7 on #3
he throws backhand on that hole
WHY?!?
he throws backhand on that hole
WHY?!?
memphisdiscgolf
Oct 03 2007, 11:47 AM
It's defintely not updating every 6 holes thats for sure.
Oct 03 2007, 11:52 AM
is it possible to get a course conditions report? Breezy? Damp today? Foggy this morning?
DSproAVIAR
Oct 03 2007, 11:53 AM
http://www.usdgcblog.com/?page_id=8
Are there pages for each hole, or just #2?
Are there pages for each hole, or just #2?
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 11:54 AM
Seems to be updated now
rollinghedge
Oct 03 2007, 11:56 AM
http://www.usdgcblog.com/?page_id=8
Are there pages for each hole, or just #2?
All Pics (http://www.usdgcblog.com/?page_id=7)
Cheers
Are there pages for each hole, or just #2?
All Pics (http://www.usdgcblog.com/?page_id=7)
Cheers
jefferson
Oct 03 2007, 11:57 AM
baca crushing it, -7 after 12
memphisdiscgolf
Oct 03 2007, 12:00 PM
baca crushing it, -7 after 12
And no bogies.
So it's $500 from Millinium for the first guy to finish a round with no bogies? Is that correct?
And no bogies.
So it's $500 from Millinium for the first guy to finish a round with no bogies? Is that correct?
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 12:03 PM
There's been a 13 thrown. Yellow rope is so funny!
Bard must have found that mario bros warp tunnel next to 1's tee that takes you straight to hole 7.
Bard must have found that mario bros warp tunnel next to 1's tee that takes you straight to hole 7.
phluffhead
Oct 03 2007, 12:05 PM
I believe he thought it was a shotgun start and his group finally showed
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 12:07 PM
Ha! He pulled a Cutt?
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 12:08 PM
Board in at 69. Warp tunnel must've worked.
stack
Oct 03 2007, 12:08 PM
Bard finished +1
and the $500 bounty was for the first round with no out of bounds strokes while shooting par or better.
and the $500 bounty was for the first round with no out of bounds strokes while shooting par or better.
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 12:11 PM
Scores on 17 so far--
3,4,5,6,7,8!!!
You can't make that kind of stuff up... and by stuff, I mean garbage.
3,4,5,6,7,8!!!
You can't make that kind of stuff up... and by stuff, I mean garbage.
my_hero
Oct 03 2007, 12:11 PM
Rod Baca = 987 rated player shooting WAY over his rating! (-7 through 12)
stack
Oct 03 2007, 12:12 PM
-4 is a hot start for sjur!
jefferson
Oct 03 2007, 12:12 PM
his wegian bro is on fire-ahhhhhh
tbender
Oct 03 2007, 12:15 PM
Scores on 17 so far--
3,4,5,6,7,8!!!
You can't make that kind of stuff up.
Love to see what type of shot everyone's throwing at the hole -- sidearm or backhand?
3,4,5,6,7,8!!!
You can't make that kind of stuff up.
Love to see what type of shot everyone's throwing at the hole -- sidearm or backhand?
stack
Oct 03 2007, 12:19 PM
FYI... there will be some night golf going on @ Cam Yards (south charlotte) on Thursday night... all lit course (no need for glo), and a must play course to add to your list... inventive use of neighborhood property w/ pond, hill, etc.
Posting this here since some USDGC'ers mentioned they might come up
PM me for more info.
Posting this here since some USDGC'ers mentioned they might come up
PM me for more info.
katothepug
Oct 03 2007, 12:20 PM
Where is everyone going to get the live scoring?
seewhere
Oct 03 2007, 12:21 PM
Love to see what type of shot everyone's throwing at the hole -- sidearm or backhand
or lucky :D
or lucky :D
ck34
Oct 03 2007, 12:21 PM
http://www.usdgc.com/leaderboard/
ck34
Oct 03 2007, 12:22 PM
Interesting to see how many play the layup shot for the easier 3 on 17 and if more do it each round.
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 12:22 PM
Schwebby due for an update
my_hero
Oct 03 2007, 12:25 PM
What's up with Coda????
Coda Hatfield 4 5 4 3 6 3
Coda Hatfield 4 5 4 3 6 3
kostar
Oct 03 2007, 12:26 PM
Looks like 3 over (71) is 1003. How many courses can you shoot over par and still be shooting 1000 rated golf? Is this because not all rounds are done yet ? Chuck are you out there ?
my_hero
Oct 03 2007, 12:27 PM
Yes! 3 over wont be 1000 rated by the end of today
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 12:27 PM
Interesting to see how many play the layup shot for the easier 3 on 17 and if more do it each round.
It's hardly any easier and not worth the (lack of) risk/reward. It's a "distance control" shot, expecially when windy. Having the bailout area short instead of skinny and right would make it a viable layup option IMHO.
Now, back to the action.
It's hardly any easier and not worth the (lack of) risk/reward. It's a "distance control" shot, expecially when windy. Having the bailout area short instead of skinny and right would make it a viable layup option IMHO.
Now, back to the action.
stack
Oct 03 2007, 12:29 PM
Schwebby due for an update
fought back to -2
fought back to -2
seewhere
Oct 03 2007, 12:31 PM
lets go schwebby
seewhere
Oct 03 2007, 12:34 PM
where's the live radio lets talk with some players that are done and see how the course is playing?????
hello
hello
stack
Oct 03 2007, 12:35 PM
WOW... Rod finishes w/ a 60!!!
seewhere
Oct 03 2007, 12:36 PM
shows Baca in with -8 on pdga tour page. does anyone know if he netted the millinium bounty
DOC65
Oct 03 2007, 12:36 PM
Someone just aced the bamboo hole 6. Anyone know who?
mikenorris
Oct 03 2007, 12:38 PM
just heard brinster aced hole 7!!!!!
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 12:38 PM
Looks like 3 over (71) is 1003. How many courses can you shoot over par and still be shooting 1000 rated golf? Is this because not all rounds are done yet ?
Good call. The ratings will probably shift. Timber Ridge Blue Tees par 62, SSA=60.83. Hawk Hollow SSA~60 and par is around 60.
Good call. The ratings will probably shift. Timber Ridge Blue Tees par 62, SSA=60.83. Hawk Hollow SSA~60 and par is around 60.
my_hero
Oct 03 2007, 12:42 PM
Someone just aced the bamboo hole 6. Anyone know who?
It's hole #7, and Steve Brinster aced it. Boom.
It's hole #7, and Steve Brinster aced it. Boom.
my_hero
Oct 03 2007, 12:43 PM
Go Mikey!!!
Mike Randolph is -5 through hole 6, missed hole 1. :D
Mike Randolph is -5 through hole 6, missed hole 1. :D
jefferson
Oct 03 2007, 12:44 PM
wow, only 1 bird on #11 so far
DSproAVIAR
Oct 03 2007, 12:47 PM
Avery skipped hole 3?
seewhere
Oct 03 2007, 12:48 PM
i bet the dot would have looked cool on the ace.. :D
jefferson
Oct 03 2007, 12:50 PM
TThe Pro finally geTTing warmed up
MTL21676
Oct 03 2007, 12:52 PM
mela took a 5 on 7?!?!
james_mccaine
Oct 03 2007, 12:53 PM
Way to go Olse. More gold. No blue.
MTL21676
Oct 03 2007, 12:55 PM
wow just saw this group...
Brian Skinner (highest rated round ever)
Cale
John Gregory
Kyle Crabtree
Brian Skinner (highest rated round ever)
Cale
John Gregory
Kyle Crabtree
ck34
Oct 03 2007, 12:55 PM
There are a few courses where the SSA is higher than par and not necessarily high SSA courses. Usually it's on tight wooded courses (Does Castle have par lower than SSA?), courses with many OB holes where the rules are too brutal, or the course is too new and the par isn't set properly and/or the holes haven't been tweaked yet.
MTL21676
Oct 03 2007, 12:57 PM
par at the castle is 64.
SSA is about 42.
SSA is about 42.
my_hero
Oct 03 2007, 12:59 PM
Double G just eagled hole 12.
2nd Eagle today on that hole.
2nd Eagle today on that hole.
MTL21676
Oct 03 2007, 01:00 PM
and Justin Jernigan gets a par on hole 1..
in 17 rounds, he has 1 birdie and 1 bogey on this hole...
in 17 rounds, he has 1 birdie and 1 bogey on this hole...
ck34
Oct 03 2007, 01:01 PM
It's about 60 so it's still under par. I think Hippo SSA at PW2006 was real close to the par 63 set for that layout.
Of course, it's looking like hole 17 is a solid par 4 based on the scores so far. Seems like the top 20 last year all had 2s on it though so we'll see.
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Of course, it's looking like hole 17 is a solid par 4 based on the scores so far. Seems like the top 20 last year all had 2s on it though so we'll see.
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tbender
Oct 03 2007, 01:01 PM
Double G just eagled hole 12.
2nd Eagle today on that hole.
The wind must be good for it...Bratten should have a real chance at it too.
2nd Eagle today on that hole.
The wind must be good for it...Bratten should have a real chance at it too.
my_hero
Oct 03 2007, 01:04 PM
McCoy has to get those dirty diapers out of his head...
Kevin McCoy 3 4 4 7 6 2
Kevin McCoy 3 4 4 7 6 2
my_hero
Oct 03 2007, 01:05 PM
Leyva is caddying for Val. Help her out Craigy!
Valarie Jenkins 3 5 3 7 6 3
Valarie Jenkins 3 5 3 7 6 3
jefferson
Oct 03 2007, 01:05 PM
Double G just eagled hole 12.
2nd Eagle today on that hole.
i believe it had the most eagles last year
2nd Eagle today on that hole.
i believe it had the most eagles last year
my_hero
Oct 03 2007, 01:06 PM
Baca had 1 bogey, hole #15, and misses the bounty?
seewhere
Oct 03 2007, 01:07 PM
i think I read he also had an OB
ActiveCurrent
Oct 03 2007, 01:08 PM
I think it was Steve Rico that aced hole 7 not Steve Brinster. Not entirely sure at this point as several stories are floating around.
stack
Oct 03 2007, 01:09 PM
Baca had 1 bogey, hole #15, and misses the bounty?
the bogey doesnt matter...its only OB and ending the round underpar (the idea is to NOT GET OB... i think the overall underpar idea is that someone could play it uber safe and shoot a 80 and take the bounty otherwise)
the bogey doesnt matter...its only OB and ending the round underpar (the idea is to NOT GET OB... i think the overall underpar idea is that someone could play it uber safe and shoot a 80 and take the bounty otherwise)
my_hero
Oct 03 2007, 01:10 PM
Thanks for clearing that up
my_hero
Oct 03 2007, 01:12 PM
Mike Olse 3 3 2 4 4 2
If Olse continues we'll have to do another run of Mike Olse Supercolor MiniStars:
http://img3.glowfoto.com/images/2007/05/21-0922237036T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=21-092223L&y=2007&m=05&t=jpg&rand=7036&srv=img3)
If Olse continues we'll have to do another run of Mike Olse Supercolor MiniStars:
http://img3.glowfoto.com/images/2007/05/21-0922237036T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=21-092223L&y=2007&m=05&t=jpg&rand=7036&srv=img3)
deoldphart
Oct 03 2007, 01:14 PM
leave for 20 minutes, and miss 40 posts. Come on JJ, Pro, Cracken, oh and Val
ck34
Oct 03 2007, 01:15 PM
And there are several holes that you can still par with an OB penalty depending on where it occurs.
DOC65
Oct 03 2007, 01:23 PM
Someone just aced the bamboo hole 6. Anyone know who?
It's hole #7, and Steve Brinster aced it. Boom.
My text messenger from the field must have had a typeO. :D
It's hole #7, and Steve Brinster aced it. Boom.
My text messenger from the field must have had a typeO. :D
ActiveCurrent
Oct 03 2007, 01:27 PM
There might be a sneak peek at some dot action later this afternoon...
my_hero
Oct 03 2007, 01:28 PM
My text messenger from the field must have had a typeO. :D
What?!?! I personally know half of the players and half of the people behind the scenes and i dont have no field reporter. Kudos!!! :D
What?!?! I personally know half of the players and half of the people behind the scenes and i dont have no field reporter. Kudos!!! :D
stack
Oct 03 2007, 01:30 PM
mmm.... I love Discin' Dots
isnt that the ice cream of the future?
isnt that the ice cream of the future?
my_hero
Oct 03 2007, 01:33 PM
LOL. Can't wait to see happy dots and mad dots, and dots with attitude.
tbender
Oct 03 2007, 01:37 PM
Was Avery allowed to skip #3? :)
marshief
Oct 03 2007, 01:39 PM
Rod Baca = 987 rated player shooting WAY over his rating! (-7 through 12)
Colorado ratings don't really mean anything, and a lot of our players claim they should be at least 10 pts higher (not my personal opinion of the deflation, just reporting). For example, Mikey tears it up at huge events and gets his 1000+ rating, and then comes home and tanks C-tiers :)
Not to discredit Roddy - he still shot way over his rating. But he is a good golfer who just doesn't get much chance to get out to the bigger events.
Now hopefully Crandolph can keep up :D
Colorado ratings don't really mean anything, and a lot of our players claim they should be at least 10 pts higher (not my personal opinion of the deflation, just reporting). For example, Mikey tears it up at huge events and gets his 1000+ rating, and then comes home and tanks C-tiers :)
Not to discredit Roddy - he still shot way over his rating. But he is a good golfer who just doesn't get much chance to get out to the bigger events.
Now hopefully Crandolph can keep up :D
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 01:39 PM
Was hole 4 made harder? It's playing tough today. Looks like either the trees have grown, or the silly string is tighter.
mannyd_928
Oct 03 2007, 01:50 PM
I can hear you in Az. ask last years am world champ Paul Ulibarri how his hand is. He hurt it last thursday cutting down a tree
DSproAVIAR
Oct 03 2007, 01:56 PM
Bennett says he threw 4 discs all day. He didn't mention he probably threw most of the 5-7 talons he carries.
DOC65
Oct 03 2007, 01:58 PM
Nolen Grider -2 through 6 with a 6 on 4. The 4th hole is getting to some folks.
DOC65
Oct 03 2007, 02:00 PM
My text messenger from the field must have had a typeO. :D
What?!?! I personally know half of the players and half of the people behind the scenes and i dont have no field reporter. Kudos!!! :D
Re-Read me message, just said Sprout birdied the Bamboo hole after a 6 on 4 and my dislexia kicked in. :p
What?!?! I personally know half of the players and half of the people behind the scenes and i dont have no field reporter. Kudos!!! :D
Re-Read me message, just said Sprout birdied the Bamboo hole after a 6 on 4 and my dislexia kicked in. :p
seewhere
Oct 03 2007, 02:04 PM
hope the tree paul was cuttin down was intended to go?? :D
come on dots
come on dots
Dana
Oct 03 2007, 02:05 PM
Tank coming out hot! Looks like Randolph is killin it!
Am World Champ Greg Schwartz gettin to play w/Barry
Am World Champ Greg Schwartz gettin to play w/Barry
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 02:06 PM
VA holding their own. Skinner 2 down. Naved even. JG even.
JG is a Virginian isn't he? I heard he lives at the Grange.
JG is a Virginian isn't he? I heard he lives at the Grange.
whorley
Oct 03 2007, 02:08 PM
Looks like Randolph is killin it!
Nine down thru twelve? Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang.
Nine down thru twelve? Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang.
seewhere
Oct 03 2007, 02:09 PM
radio show is live (http://www.usdgc.com/lead-group-live-audio-show/) yes you are mace you are bad with names :D
seewhere
Oct 03 2007, 02:12 PM
leader board (http://www.usdgc.com/leaderboard/)
good come back schwebby
good come back schwebby
stack
Oct 03 2007, 02:13 PM
funny thought... only Baca, Orum and Bennett would've qualified if this was Monday! ;)
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