#9 is not cart friendly, but you can take a long walk or carry your cart.



I'm confused how #9 would be a problem for carts?

Hole 12 is the only hole to cross the creek without a bridge? Or do they run the holes differently for the PIO?

15' climb to get out of

yikes

Bryan is an old timer. It used to be #9 until 3 holes were added.

Tuesday night Blues in Crowley. Starts around 6:15.....we have lights!

Maceman, I just sign up Chris Ware and myself in the Pro Masters division. :cool:

So Ware is officially old this year? Congrats!

chickens.

yes officially over the hill. dont worry Chris I might drop down to open if the fields sizes are small. :Dthat is the glory of being old..

Bryan is an old timer. It used to be #9 until 3 holes were added.



That's good news because I thought I was getting the old timer disease. :eek:

So are we gonna use the golfcarts Ware?

I guess we will need to see how much room we have in the car. we can always strap them on top of the car like we did that one trip... :D

No need I'm gonna carry a bag.

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Pro Masters was 47.00 dollars on the web site, and 5 dollars for the ace pot.

thanks I called mace and he cleared it up .. masters $45 and $5 for ace than some $2 fee for registering on -line.

DeAtra and I just signed up! Playing both day! Dee is playing MA3 on Saturday.

Hope we can get some more ladies to come out.

Dee is playing MA3 on Saturday.



And some guys are going to get whooped by the Queen...

Total of 52.00 dollars ;)

Ok, I don't play Grapevine very often, too much poison ivy and to much rec play.

Dee is playing MA3 on Saturday.



And some guys are going to get whooped by the Queen...



Some guys ????? Most guys. I would bet that she wins MA3.

She can slap down most rec men..............somehow, they just don't have enough experience for a WOMAN like Dee!

May the Queen reign SUPREME!

Maceman, I just sign up Chris Ware and myself in the Pro Masters division. :cool:



Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

(welcome to masters CW...you're now officially old! :D)
See y'all there.
Want to meet at Crowley or Cedar Hill Sat?

thanks Alex see you sunday. we are stopping in waco on the way to try and tame the beast. ~ 12 or so..

For those of you that are playing the PIO on Sunday and are coming into town early, we have a mini at Crowley at 10:00 on Saturday morning. The cost is $8.00

directions from austin to bear creek??

Directions:
take 35 North ... when you get to Hillsboro take 35W towards Ft. Worth... once you are in the Ft. Worth area you have a couple options... You can exit on 121N OR to miss the downtown traffic take the exit for 20E (towards Dallas), exit 820, exit 121N (towards North Entry for DFW)... Exit Stone Myers Pkwy and turn right onto access road for 360... 2nd right into park...

thank you

Is it suppose to rain on sunday? Was the weatherman change the forcast for this weekend?

Directions:
take 35 North ... when you get to Hillsboro take 35W towards Ft. Worth... once you are in the Ft. Worth area you have a couple options... You can exit on 121N OR to miss the downtown traffic take the exit for 20E (towards Dallas), exit 820, exit 121N (towards North Entry for DFW)... Exit Stone Myers Pkwy and turn right onto access road for 360... 2nd right into park...



It'll be the entrance next to the baseball field.... :D

weather.com is showing
high 51/low 29 mostly sunny on Sat. and
high 56/low 32 sunny on Sunday
for Grapevine (76051)

Thank You. no umbrella.

Directions:
take 35 North ... when you get to Hillsboro take 35W towards Ft. Worth... once you are in the Ft. Worth area you have a couple options... You can exit on 121N OR to miss the downtown traffic take the exit for 20E (towards Dallas), exit 820, exit 121N (towards North Entry for DFW)... Exit Stone Myers Pkwy and turn right onto access road for 360... 2nd right into park...



I'm not trying to be a contrarian, but I honestly think the faster way would be to take I-20 over to SH 360 and go all the way up 360 to Stone Meyers Pkwy. Exit and take the U-turn and go to the 2nd right into the parking lot

I havent been keeping up with the board as of late . I might be interested in playing an event in the north texas series , where and when is the next event ? Where do I sign up ?

I havent been keeping up with the board as of late . I might be interested in playing an event in the north texas series , where and when is the next event ? Where do I sign up ?



ah, you need to read a little bit.

This weekend in Grapevine. The Poison Ivy Open. Usually a great turnout, so much this year Brian has split the tournament to two one day tournaments with Rec and Adv on Saturday and Am and Pro on Sunday.

Someone will correct me if I am wrong.

Register at Maceman.com (or is it .net)

Looks like I might be able to make it. I will know for sure Friday, when does pre registration end???? (via on line)

Here is the list as it stands right now. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6456#Open)

Mace , you may want to check with MY HERO, he is hurt again. I dont think he is going to be able to play untill Cedar Hill.
WHere is peppernuts, JD, Nolan , CFLES, Coda, all dem foolz?

coda will be there.

Are you going Jared?

Jay and Des are on the fence about coming. I'll be hosting them if they show, and plan on helping Brian on Sunday. (Of course my definition of 'helping' may or may not be the same as Mace's.) :DGood Luck to all. I sure do wish i could shoot at that $2500+ ACE POT at GRAPEVINE!

coda will be there.



Hey Jared , you coming to party with me , big dave and pj this weekend ? Or did room 306 in Tyler put a big ol' Texas sized dent in your arse?

85 signed up already. It is going to be huge. I better sign up quick.

Those Okies can't hang from what I was told. :p
Too used to that dirt. :eek:

Those Okies can't hang from what I was told. :p
Too used to that dirt. :eek:



Dave "BIGBUCK" Landis is originally an Okie...I know that guy can hang with the best of em' :D

He sure does not claim you guys anymore. :o

Ok well i guess I will have to sign up tonight.

He sure does not claim you guys anymore. :o



****! Say it aint so Big Buck?!!?

I noticed he was signed up in the open division.

Big Dave aint f'ing around anymore!
He wants dat money!
I hope he wins the whole thang!

BTW- I dont know anybody that can hang with Big Dave .If u know what I mean.... :D

I lasted New Years Eve with Big Dave.

:cool:

I managed to hang in Tyler. Man that dude must have 2 iron
lungs. did you get vaporized ?

WOW, that thing is awesome !

I managed to hang in Tyler. Man that dude must have 2 iron
lungs. did you get vaporized ?

WOW, that thing is awesome !



The Vaporizer is a disc right? :D:D:D

Add:

Jerry Power Masters

I managed to hang in Tyler. Man that dude must have 2 iron
lungs. did you get vaporized ?

WOW, that thing is awesome !



The Vaporizer is a disc right? :D:D:D


.
U R FUNNY GUY !!!

Directions:
take 35 North ... when you get to Hillsboro take 35W towards Ft. Worth... once you are in the Ft. Worth area you have a couple options... You can exit on 121N OR to miss the downtown traffic take the exit for 20E (towards Dallas), exit 820, exit 121N (towards North Entry for DFW)... Exit Stone Myers Pkwy and turn right onto access road for 360... 2nd right into park...



It'll be the entrance next to the baseball field.... :D




Don't both entrances have ball fields next to them?

Both parking lots will be needed for this event.
Park in either one .

It's not too bad to visit but i left there 15 years ago with my hair on fire with a vow never to live there again. Tulsa is the only consolation prize and maybe the saving grace for oklahoma. If it was NOT for Tulsa Disc Golf and the fact that my dad lives in OKC, I would drive through Arkansas to get to kansas.

is the online registration fixed.... I tried signing up online a couple days ago.... do not see my name on the list... not sure if my registration went through or not....

It's not too bad to visit but i left there 15 years ago with my hair on fire with a vow never to live there again. Tulsa is the only consolation prize and maybe the saving grace for oklahoma. If it was NOT for Tulsa Disc Golf and the fact that my dad lives in OKC, I would drive through Arkansas to get to kansas.



BIGBUCK is loved by many women from Tulsa...Dave you might as well change your screen name to Casanova or Romeo! :D

is the online registration fixed.... I tried signing up online a couple days ago.... do not see my name on the list... not sure if my registration went through or not....



THey are trying to keep you from playing , those guys dont like you :D

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BIGBUCK is loved by many women from Tulsa...Dave you might as well change your screen name to Casanova or Romeo! :D

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I think what Mannix is trying to say is , big buck has left a bunch of little bucks in T-Town! :D

We are still having problems with registration on-line. If you don't get the confirmation after you submit your transaction your entry did not go through. I recomend you try again, and rest asured that you will only be charged once. We have to capture your payment manually so if we see you on there more than once we will only charge you for one.

So, as long as we got the email confirm, don't worry if name not on list yet?

And, hey, don't you guys have any girls that like to play? :D Disc Golf that is!

Your name is on this list. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6456#Open)

Joe Torres and Pete Lopez will be there, they have not sign up but they will be there.

I think sue wants to see her name twice once for sat and once for sunday.


pete and Joe better sign up or they might be going on a road trip for nothing. This event will FILL !!!

So Maceman is there a cap.?

Yes there is, I have the ability to take up to 120 per day with 24 holes. You will play at least 2 21 hole rounds, and if there is enough demand we will set up the extra 3 holes to go to 24 and allow the extra 15 players.

Maceman call Joe Torres ;)

I am in :D

question. If I renew my membership for the pdga after this tourny... will my round ratings i earn this weekend not count? Like say if I wait till next week to do it.

thats a good idea-run at aces all weekend and not worry at all about your rating.Too late for me I have already renewed.

no...no... this is my home course... I WANT my ratings to count as I expect them to be higher than normal. Perhaps when it is all said and done I will not feel so... but for now I do.

I planned on renewing as a Jr, but the pdga made it were you have to be 16y/o or younger to be a Jr now. :mad:....Now I have to pay $50 instead of $25.

bummer

Good luck in Pro Joe!

If you cash are you going to accept it?

sure-if I cash;I am mainly playing Sunday because I have plans for Friday night and dont feel like waking up at 8:30.Are you playing on Sunday?

I am mainly throwing missiles at this event anyway-would rather have the acepot,its paying a lot more.$2500 vs $250 :D

No, I wanna play Advanced but I can't find a ride down there before Saturday because everybody here is leaving Saturday to go down there.

I will just skip this event and hit Big Show @ Cedar Hill, Mid-Week event and Z-Boaz

cool-I'll see ya at one of those for sure.

The answer is........ (pseudo drum rolls)........


Probably yes. The ratings are still tied to your PDGA number and for the first of the year will probably still be calculated under the assumption that you are renewing. Also I doubt Maceman will get the TD report in before the end of next week anyway, so it is possible you could be renewed before the TD report is received, however, you will still be charged for not being current (I think) so if you can, save yourself some money, file your renewal with Maceman and write him a check. The check will be sent with the TD report and it will still probably be past next week before he sends it in. Just a suggestion and there is no garuantee of accuracy

If you need a renewal form, Maceman can probably get you one, but he may be very busy. I can also get you one if you are playing on Sunday. I could also possibly find one to e-mail you.


question. If I renew my membership for the pdga after this tourny... will my round ratings i earn this weekend not count? Like say if I wait till next week to do it.

ways to renew.

renewal forms (http://www.pdga.com/renew/)

If I have paid, should my name be on the list?

If I have paid, should my name be on the list?



That list does not update automatically, what division u playing stevan?

Since my rating is too fuggin high, I gotta play advanced.

:p

come on Steven...I saw that you played open at the VPO. Why not continue to play open and learn from the best players.

come on Steven...I saw that you played open at the VPO. Why not continue to play open and learn from the best players.



Great question!

At the VPO the mistake I made was playing a bit too high out of my league. When the second round started I was towards the bottom of the field in open (not the last card!!!) which meant that I was playing with people who really had no chance at winning and that had a real affect on the tone of the players. We were having a great time and not concentrating or focusing like we would have had we been playing for 1st. If I had been playing Advanced I would have been put into a card that a real chance at winning and I feel I would have not lost my concentration and focus like I did in the second round. I really need to learn HOW to win. I've been alright making good shots here and there but now I'm to the point where I want to learn how to manufacture "the zone."

Long story short, I want to be in a barrel where I'm playing at the top instead of fighting for the middle. Besides the VPO was only my 3rd tournament, I had plans on playing advanced/intermediate till the end of 2007.

I have one goal...to beat Michael Brownlow. lol!

[quoteI have one goal...to beat Michael Brownlow. lol!

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LMFAO!

[quoteI have one goal...to beat Michael Brownlow. lol!



LMFAO!

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Michael has an intimate knowledge of that course , be prepared . As far as pre-reg's are concerned , michael is a contender on Saturday, big time . But that is only because I am not playing ! :D

I have one goal...to beat Michael Brownlow. lol!



Me too!



Figures.

Cold Toe (Brownlow) just started playing not to long ago....but he practices everyday. He plays open in all the minis and I believe that he is going to play both Advanced and Open this weekend at the PIO.

If you have ever won anything in your life then you already know how to win. To win in the advanced division all you have to do is play boring golf. Take your birdies when they are there, then just go for par on all the rest of the holes. The other people you are playing against will mess up on their own. Remember to compete against the course rather than the players on your card.

Keep playing....we need more open players.

Keep playing....we need more open players.



Scavanger..... :D

come on Steven...I saw that you played open at the VPO. Why not continue to play open and learn from the best players.



Probably the same reason you played Advanced for 9 months with a 950+ rating--to be competitive.

So, does anybody want to sponsor the DISCBOOMER to play open this weekend????? X-MAS wiped me out !
I can pay u back with my manly good looks and charm!
Wink, wink ......
I can bring my guinea pig too! :D

Here is the list as it stands. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6456#Open)
Please let everyone know that you talk to about this event that it is split to two days. All Rec and Advanced tomorrow, with Int and Open divisions on Sunday.

See you soon.

There is atleast one guy signed up in rec. with a 899 rating, knowing who it is im sure it was an accident. Didnt check everyone, there could be more.

There is atleast one guy signed up in rec. with a 899 rating, knowing who it is im sure it was an accident. Didnt check everyone, there could be more.



I'm 866. With good shooting and quick scoring submission by Mace, this could be my last (and only) Rec event.

Yes, this tournament (and any other PDGA tournamment) will count in your ratings if you have a PDGA number. Your ratings are still calculated even if you are not a current member. Keeps people from sandbagging.

So, does anybody want to sponsor the DISCBOOMER to play open this weekend????? X-MAS wiped me out !
I can pay u back with my manly good looks and charm!
Wink, wink ......
I can bring my guinea pig too! :D



I would like to put up the same offer. Anyone who wants to sponsor the Natural for the PIO can send me a pm. But unlike Lee I cannot offer the good looks, but I could possibly get a guinea pig. Although its probably a good thing I am not playing. After all, Someone else should win every once in a while. :D

Think you all might have better luck if you put on a short skirt, f-me pumps and hung out on a local street corner. :o If you are going to try and pander some funds, at least be creative.

Creative huh? If someone sponsors me I promise to play open :eek:

Brian,

If we renewed before the first of the year and it hasn't been updated yet are we going to be required to pay the temp fee. If I need to bring my receipt for my renewal I will.

Mace - all of these players have paid their 2007 PDGA renewal through the OMB/YGB Club. I don't think the PDGA has updated this information yet as it was mailed on 12/26/6
Gary Duke
Jeremy Olheiser
Steve Parker
Mark Reddoch
Daryl Johnson
Leonel Casias
Dieter Krappl
Casey Fortune
Justin Jones
Gary Watts
Steve Wind
Jennifer Wind
Charles Cox
Andy Watts
Mike Anderson
Bryan James
Brian Krell
Adam Murphy
Keith Ellison

What time does everything get started tomorrow morning?

off of mace's website

There will be pick your partner doubles on Friday at 3pm. The players meeting will be at 8:30 am on both days.

I pick C WARE.

:D thanks

You can see the people that don't have to get there at the crack of dawn to secure an oppertunity to run at that money here!$!$! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6456#Open)

Even more up to date info!$!$! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6456)

As I go to bed here is how things stand right now, There are 73 people signed up to play tomorrow and 78 on Sunday.

There is room on both days but that doesn't mean that you can show up at 8:30 and expect to get in.

If you are playing on Sunday, please stop by tomorrow and sign up.

Think you all might have better luck if you put on a short skirt, f-me pumps and hung out on a local street corner. :o If you are going to try and pander some funds, at least be creative.



It's posts like these, even though they are few and far between, that keep me checking this board :D. If The Natural shows up on either morning as described (for SEEHORSE I'll go double ;)), I'll pay the open entry fee.

Suemac, I'll get with you this weekend to take care of that debt.

Thanks Jason, but I have too much going on right now. Leaving monday early to staff a camp for youth in CO. Just not wise timing. But to all those playing the best of luck and I will get you at the Zboaz open!

Watch out for Guy Boyan at the PIO, he is playing hot right now!!!~~~ He could walk away with the Advanced title and the Pro title ~~~~~~Guy is the $h!t!!!!!!!!

for SEEHORSE I'll go double

bring it

leavin at 10 playing the beast ~ 12 than to grapevine ..ROUND ROCK !!!!!

work sucks !
I want to play!

Make no mistake about it, Guy Boyan is a force!

work sucks !
I want to play!



You and me both.... :(

Make no mistake about it, Guy Boyan is a force!



You guys must smoke a lot of crack up north of the Red River. Guy is a pole smoker ! :Dwith a big buddah belly :D

Luv U Guy!

Yo Lee!!

I will be in Funky Town TONIGHT!! PJ mentioned a party, you attending?

Go Guy Go, Go Guy Go, Go Guy Go!

Go Guy Go, Go Guy Go, Go Guy Go!



hE HAS ONE NEMSIS AND IM NOT PLAYING.. I GUESS HE STANDS A CHANCE

Here is what happened today, including 2 ACES !$!$! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6455#Advanced)

David Kinter and Hollywood Henderson will be splitting the ace with whom ever can get one to stay tomorrow. See you early.

anybody have any scores?

congrats dave kinter!

Tony Romo is the world's biggest #$*&$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was the worst #$*&$! I have seen, EVER!

scr[/b]ew the cowboys... till around august, at least. Then I'll be a fan again. Now... if they fire TO before then, I might be a fan sooner than that.

Just in case Brian reads this (I don't have his phone number), Nicole will not be at the tournament today. I am still not 100 percent back to normal after my kidney surgery, and being a caddie for 2 rounds yesterday really wore me out. Therefore I don't think I can walk the course with Nicole for two more rounds today and still have energy to drive back to Houston tonight. So Nicole will have to miss today's rounds.

Thanks...........Rick

Kinter!!!!!!! Welcome to the 4 digit* ace pot club! $1250 so far.

*-That is if nobody in Open or Int hits one today.

I heard of one today in the first round!

sO HOW WAs THAT WInd bOYs . . . . .WHO WOn . . . . . I jUsT gOT OUTTA jAIl An HOUr AgO . . . . . .sO I MIssed IT . . . .scOreS ! ! !

There were a total of 4 aces hit this weekend. 2 on Saturday and 2 on Sunday. Jay Reading won open. Chris Pepperling and Shawn Robertson tied for 2nd. Don't know who won the intermediate division.

In reverse order of when they put in their time this weekend I want to thank and ask you to give them a big pat on the back when you see the following:

Britt Browning, Jason Chamberlain, Chris Pepperling, Lee Letts, Ray Murray, Ginnetta Chamberlain, and Jeff Davis. These people rule.

There were 2 aces each day, in reverse order: on hole 10 Lance Collett round 2, Joe Torres hole 10 round. Hollywood hole 1 round 2, and David Kinter hole 5 round 1 yesterday. They got $651.50 each!!

Here are the scores from today. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6456#Open)

1051 baby. New high round for me. :D

fun weekend. first mace tournament played and he puts on a good one.

One stroke out of the money :o

Dang, maybe I should have practiced my putting before today. Had not even picked up my bag sence the Cruise.

Oh well.

See everyone at the Big Show at Cedar Hill. Looking forward to that.

I also plan on playing the midweek event, however I think I might have to skip the ZBoaz leg. :(

Thanks Maceman.

fun weekend. first mace tournament played and he puts on a good one.

Mace Man tournament's = A+

cAUgHT MY HAnd On fIre AT gAs pUMp In fT. WOrTH WITH A sTOggIE. . .TOOk Off In rIde WITH ArM OUT WIndOW TO pUT OUT flAMes . . . . . dOWn THe rOAd . . . . . . . gOT pUlled OVer . . . . WenT TO jAIl fOr WAVIng A fIre ArM OUT THe WIndOW Of A MOVIng VeHicle . . . . . . . . . . . . . :D:D:D

Lol....you **** tard! :D

1051 baby. New high round for me. :D



Are those rating right? Looks like they are based on par 54? Jay and several others finished way under par yet the pdgatour link shows over par.

Great round anyway Chris!

That wouldn't effect the rating. However it will change when everyone's PDGA # is put in.

However it will change when everyone's PDGA # is put in



Ah.....it sure will.

cAUgHT MY HAnd On fIre AT gAs pUMp In fT. WOrTH WITH A sTOggIE. . .TOOk Off In rIde WITH ArM OUT WIndOW TO pUT OUT flAMes . . . . . dOWn THe rOAd . . . . . . . gOT pUlled OVer . . . . WenT TO jAIl fOr WAVIng A fIre ArM OUT THe WIndOW Of A MOVIng VeHicle . . . . . . . . . . . . . :D:D:D



Guy, you are truly a tard!

Thanks Mace...tricky course...C U @ Big Show!!!

Hey Igota5...6 outta 28 now :Dlol...J/K...hope you get a laugh at that...I had to catch like 6 people in the 2nd Rd. to post that :cool:

Sweet 2nd round Flesner...good stuff!!

Chris Ware cashes in his first Masterzzzz, that is so wierd seeing your name in that div...strange...it'll take some getting used to :p

Guy, are you serious? :confused:

Guy, you are really lame, but I laughed. :D

Smokin Joe, way to go. I hope there was no split with Pete. :p

Oh yeah, congrats to Chris, his old bones were a creaking around the course, the old man cart was a squeeking, and the metal mini was a flyin.

Oh yeah, congrats to Chris, his old bones were a creaking around the course, the old man cart was a squeeking, and the metal mini was a flyin.




I didn't hear the mini one time and I think he carried his BAG?? :confused: I DID hear some bones creaking a few holes over tho...lol

However it will change when everyone's PDGA # is put in



Ah.....it sure will.




Will they be lower or higher?

I would imagine that some will go higher, some will go lower. I think you are sitting just fine , it's the players that have higher ratings than you , that shot worse, that have something to worry about.

It will be a little work but I will get those PDGA numbers in there. If I don't have your number on there please send me an email.

Thanks to all that came out, and thank you for your patience. It seamed like there was something for me to stumble over at every turn, but my biggest worry was that there would be golf still going on when the sun was down and we avoided that both days.

I will always do my best to run a great event, but that is not possible without all of you showing up to play. Thanks again for coming out.

Now would you please sign up early for Cedar Hill.

Thanks for taking my bag on that first round. :D

Wish those bogies were not on the card. 2 2 5 2 4 2 2 4 what a rolercoaster that first round was.

Thanks for taking my bag on that first round. :D





Not a problem. That was a sweet arse MAN UP putt you called on 7 the first round.

4 ALL out there that could not be in attendance , i will sumarise. Great thumber off the tee, diving right @ the basket. Hits a funky branch on the way down and rolls out @ least 65 to 70 from the basket. On the tee , Chris proclaims, I got that putt. Sure enough, he bangs it down with a ROCK SOLID putt right in Coda Hatfields and Degan Owens faces. Funny, Coda ( Worlds putting challenge winner 06) missed his 25 - 30 footer after watching that putt kill those chains!

Thanks for taking my bag on that first round. :D





Not a problem. That was a sweet arse MAN UP putt you called on 7 the first round.

4 ALL out there that could not be in attendance , i will sumarise. Great thumber off the tee, diving right @ the basket. Hits a funky branch on the way down and rolls out @ least 65 to 70 from the basket. On the tee , Chris proclaims, I got that putt. Sure enough, he bangs it down with a ROCK SOLID putt right in Coda Hatfields and Degan Owens faces. Funny, Coda ( Worlds putting challenge winner 06) missed his 25 - 30 footer after watching that putt kill those chains!



He's real awesome.

Chris Ware cashes in his first Masterzzzz, that is so wierd seeing your name in that div...strange...it'll take some getting used to



:D yes definately weird seeing all you guys in the youngster division and not being there with you.


Oh yeah, congrats to Chris, his old bones were a creaking around the course, the old man cart was a squeeking, and the metal mini was a flyin



thanks james it was a FUN battle with El Chile all the way to the last hole. Thanks for trying that roller El chile to give me a chance and yes Pete got $20 from the ace so did me and Jerry.

guess it was a good choice to play with the old guys. Play open and miss cash by 1 or play masters and get last place cash by 1 :o....man are those old guys laid back. Enjoyed playing with both of my cards this weekend..

I would like to say that it was really great to see Chris Ware with a big smile on his face at the end of an event, and it wasn't because he was super drunk. Way to go Seahorse!!

thanks Mace and I was sober since I was driving and it is illegal to drink during PDGA events /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

didn't stop everyone, even after telling him he should not drink durring the round.

Of course the casuals that I asked to respect the TD and not light up at the course left. :D

bryan I think his score shows that ... :D

I know we have said it a few times, but I gotta say thanks again to MaceMan for putting this whole thing together. I know he couldn't do it alone, so thanks to everyone who was there helping out as well.

Can someone tell me the entry fees for this tournament.

mace man website (http://www.maceman.com/cgi-bin/agora.cgi?product=Registration)

go here and scroll down to event # 3 z boaz open information

My little man Jarred shot his first ever 900 rated round (+7) from the longs on Sat. Only beat him by 2 strokes on the round. :o

Congrats on your win Steven Parker. I'll try to claw my way onto the leader card with you guys sometime. See ya'll at ZBoaz.

Do we have to pre reg or no.

Last year we didn't have to.

Mace - I posed this question last year w/o response so I thought I may try again...

if you want players to pre-register and it helps us and you out on starting on time..

WHY do we have to pay more to pre-register?..Can you set your website to make a pre-reg cost the same as signing up the same day?

I know a few dollars isn't a huge deal to you or us, but there is some logic there and it may bring more pre-regs

Who get's that extra money?

I am sure some of the cost is set up to offset the web upkeep, credit card costs, ect, but I see that as part of being the TD

If you already get to take in PDGA fees and course fees for running events that are C and B's..those costs should be covered..20%..20%..PDGA fees are required, but costs and course fees for running C's and B's aren't used as much today

I also want players to understand I AM NOT bashing MACE, but if you want pre-regs..they should not cost more than signing up the day of the event...

heck..even a dollar or so cheaper might make sense

Oh I know your not trying to bash Mace.....Neither am I

I think there should be no sign up fee, unless you sign up the day of the tournament.

$2-$5

pre-reg=2
snail mail=0
day of=5

Does anyone have anymore Information on the tournament then whats on that site? That all helped me out but I'm wondering if there is ever a host hotel where exactly are the courses and all that I'm trying to plan the tournament and looking for this stuff

We will be playing z-boaz and a temp course on the other side of the railroad. The course is off of I-20W and Winscott. Don't think that there has ever been a host hotel, but there are a few off of I-20 closer to Ft Worth. Any more questions? Love seeing out of towners try to tame the mighty Z. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Was rec women the only division that played the short tees in the 2nd round on Saturday? If so, will the rec women get ratings for the 2nd round on Saturday? SuperGirl (Nicole) shot 5 stokes better in the 2nd round then in the 1st round so we were hoping that the 2nd round would get rated (the unofficial round ratings listed for the rec women are incorrect for the 2nd round).

Thanks...........Rick

PS........SuperGirl really enjoyed the tounament, the course, and playing with the ladies on her card.

The second round will not be a rated round as they were the only division to play that format. :(

We hope that you are feeling better and look forward to seeing you and SuperGirl out later this year.

That is not that bad of an idea Adam. It could also be one of the small reasons someone does not sign up until the day of the event.

I have a hard time registering more than a week out because I don't know what employee's I will have that weekend. Being that weekends are when we do all our business, I don't like to leave the store short handed.

Looks like Cedar Hill and the Midweek in Arlington will be a go for me, but I don't think I am going to be able (or afford) to play ZBoaz again this year.

In answer to your question Adam the reason is that there is a charge to the merchant any time you use a credit card for any reason. It is a convenience to you and it costs the merchant to make it more convenient for you to spend your money.

I can see both sides of this argument, but when it comes down to it why do I need to pay to make it easier for you. Why should it cost the event and subsequently MM to save you the trip across town to register on Friday afternoon to guarantee you get a spot in the event? That $2 is a small price to pay for peace of mind knowing you are in, knowing that you can show up and you don't have to worry if the event is full because you are in.

When you look at it like that, you would spend 30 min each way to get to the course and back to register on Friday, and isn't your time worth more than $2 an hour? This is a very delicate business and many of you have this perception that I am getting rich and that there is "all of this money" floating around that I am hauling to the bank in an dump truck. But the reality is that there really isn't that much money, and if most of you had to live the way I do and make the money that I do you would have moved on long ago. Is there anyone out there that is driving a vehicle that has 351,000+ miles on it?

In many other sports you can't even sign up the day of the event. Many sports sell out events 3 months in advance. It is really unfair to the TD at any event that he or she should be driving out to the course on any given event day and not know what they will get in terms of attendance. Wondering if it will fill or not, they should know at that point. But it is not even remotely a concern for many players, in fact many players feel that a TD should make it easier on them by holding them a spot that will be paid for on Saturday morning if they happen to show up. We as a group are really hard on the people that are doing all of the work to make things better, and then without hesitation at the slightest bump in the road that person goes under the bus as the ******* that can't do this or that in the manner that is demanded by golfers that aren't willing to take on 10% of that responsibility.

Please don't misunderstand me on this. I am only calling it like I see it, and that is through the eyes of experience from both sides of the table. I started running events because I started listening to the things that are said about TD's regularly in every town in every state by all levels of golfers. Those things are less than complementary more often than not. I figured that I must think that I could do it better than the person that "we" were bashing at the time, so I decided to take my turn. I will not say that the events that we run aren't without flaws, but we do get it done.

I am not saying this for any other reason but to back up the fact that if I take out the credit card fee from over 100 players from the event then the positive cash flow to MM is less $200+ for the weekend, and that has a significant impact on the bottom line of the event.

I think you should have a $10 late fee for peeps signing up day off, it's such a hassle on the TD to sign people up the day of and it puts the starting time in jeopardy.

just my $0.04 cents ;)

by the way, I'll probably be signing up day of

c-ya there

I would not take for granted that you will be able to sign up on the day of the event for either Cedar Hill or Z Boaz. We had 30 sign up in the rain last year for Cedar Hill on Saturday, if it is nice I think it is safe to say it will fill. Z Boaz has been right at full or over each year we have held it with all divisions on the same weekend, so if you want to wait you may be disappointed.

I have not found a cheaper place to stay near Z Boaz than The Motel 6 on 377 in Benbrook. It is 3 blocks from the course and under $50 a night.

I think you should make it worth your while and charge them a $50 late fee. :D

Kevin, this tournament is expected to fill this year. Sign up early even if you mail it in.

Brian, I think Adam tried to make it clear that he was trying to think of a way to get people to sign up early. Even though it is only $2, some players will sign up the day of just to avoid that cost.

Trust me, I know all about Saturday morning registration. Almost 60 players sign up for the Carrollton Open on Saturday this year. It was everything I could do to get the event started on time. They were signing up faster than I could enter them into the computer.

I will also point out that it is cheaper to use Maceman.com than Titledisc.com. I will use Titledisc first because I can use my Paypal account to pay for the event.

Brian, you should look into accepting paypal as another option. It will not cost you much more than you are already paying. (30 cents plus 2.94% if I am not mistaken)

MM - as I stated I wasn't trying to bash on you but I thought it was a legitimate point

I think Bryan's idea of paypal may work better for you - check into it


When you look at it like that, you would spend 30 min each way to get to the course and back to register on Friday, and isn't your time worth more than $2 an hour?



It takes me 1 hour each way and that doesn't include gas costs. It isn't about the $2.00, but more about paying more to help things be smoother on Saturday when that doesn't happen.


We had 30 sign up in the rain last year for Cedar Hill on Saturday



All the pre-registed players also waited in that rain for more than 1 extra hour to get started. Why not just charge the $2.00 extra to people that sign up the day of the event?

I know that one year you toyed with the late fee for signing up, but then didn't stay with it.

MM - you know that I play your events and I enjoy them. Just hoping you may see one reason there are not so many pre-registered players.

As for getting rich - I hope all players know there isn't enough money in the game for that currently. I have been reading through some old Disc Golf Journals and it amazing how in 10yrs the prices of tournies, PDGA renewals, and plastic prices really haven't risen that much.

We are lucky to play the sport we all love at such a cheap price and to have TD's that will take our opinions, gripes and ideas and keep on running quality events - thanks MM

See you at Cedar Hill and I am bringing some Okies with me :D

I would send it in today, but having a pregnant woman at the house, I have to ask permission to breathe let alone go play disc golf

Oh yea! That statement will get you some play time. :o:D

351,000+ miles on it

WOW Jeff's truck looks pretty good for that many miles :D:p


ask permission to breathe

get use to that it only gets worse... :eek: :) congrats on the baby... best thing that can happen to someone...

and another question if you can charge a LATE fee can we charge you if you take too long on getting PAYOUT done????


now where's my check... :D

Brian is absolutely right here. TD's get grief for only doing the best they can. Seems like the more they do the more grief they catch :confused:.

As far as late fees, I was doing that ($5 fee for Sat. sign-ups) and everyone had a complaint about it. I also encourage early sign-ups and offer every option through paypal and the event pays the fee. Did it help.... NO! People still show up on Sat morning wanting to sign up or don't show up because you are charging a late fee.

Brian,

Keep doing what you are doing Bro, those of us that know are behind you 100%. You run quality events and you know if it weren't for my health I'd be at every one of them.

Tournaments are supposed to be fun, help keep them that way, don't give the TD's grief.

Preregistering is a convenience for the TD.

and another question if you can charge a LATE fee can we charge you if you take too long on getting PAYOUT done????


now where's my check... :D




Yes!
:D

Pre-registering helps everyone, especially the players who are standing around waiting.

Pre-registration is a help to the traveling players that can make hotel reservations with confidence because they know they are in even if the event fills.

Having an event fill through pre-registration a few weeks out is beneficial to everyone at the event.

Pre-registration should be required! Don't do it, don't get to play. People would learn quickly.

I totally understand where you are coming from, and I know you are not bashing. I don't want to be misunderstood here either, I am just trying to explain things from my perspective.

It seams that this is an area of injustice toward the people who do the right thing. You sign up early and pay. Sign up late, #$*&$!, and moan about the late fee to a point that I let it slide. Then I am the bad guy when I can't get things under way on time because I am too nice, and hate to tell a player they are too late when they sign up at their convince.

It is most assuredly every players right to wait as long as they want to sign up. No reason to worry about anyone but yourself, and your convince UDGP.

Not to interrupt the current discussion......but,
This is my 1st Z-Boaz and I am stoked about it. Can't wait to see Mace again (along with all those Texans I took money from in Texas Hold 'em at OK Open). Mace, what is the round format? 4 rounds? 3 rounds and final 9? Thanks.

You will play 3 18 hole rounds and a final nine, with a skins match to follow for top 4 open women and men.

I'm looking forward to the Z

Heres the only thing I have with siging up early. I think its a good idea dont get me wrong but its going to either be a 9+ hour drive or I'm going to fly out. I will miss 2 days of school and 3 days of baseball all that I'm not worried I'm just worried about the cost making sure where I think I'm staying is close and all that. I sent mace an email just now asking when he expects it to fill but when do you think it will?

It will probably fill a day before Friday or the day of (Saturday)!

That's just the way people are around here :mad:

I would send it in today, but having a pregnant woman at the house, I have to ask permission to breathe let alone go play disc golf



Welcome to my world. :p I have a 19 month old daughter. :cool:

In my opinion, I like pre-reg's since I play in such a sparse division. I am limited in the tourneys I can attend this year since I'm planning a wedding and honeymoon to Europe. Z-boaz is definitely one I WANT to make, but at the same time, I don't wanna go and only play in a field of 3. Last year, we had 5 Int women and 2 Adv women (but I was Int last year). So, hopefully this year there will be AT LEAST that many.

Please let me know if you know of women that will be there...I'm about 85% sure I will make it at this time, but I would like to make sure there will be some others.

Pre-registering helps everyone, especially the players who are standing around waiting.



I could not agree with this statement any more. If you are going to wait until the day of to register, then don't show up 5 minutes before the players meeting is supposed to start and make the other 90-150 people wait on you.

I know it's almost a week later, but any chance on getting the PIO rounds reloaded with the correct courses for the divisions and with more pdga #s :D:cool:

In my opinion, I like pre-reg's since I play in such a sparse division. I am limited in the tourneys I can attend this year since I'm planning a wedding and honeymoon to Europe. Z-boaz is definitely one I WANT to make, but at the same time, I don't wanna go and only play in a field of 3. Last year, we had 5 Int women and 2 Adv women (but I was Int last year). So, hopefully this year there will be AT LEAST that many.

Please let me know if you know of women that will be there...I'm about 85% sure I will make it at this time, but I would like to make sure there will be some others.



I dont think u should worry about that this year. The local lady scene is really picking up. I am assuming that the following will be in attendance.
Stacia Pearce
De'Atra
Heidi Tesch
Stepahine Cantrell
Prolly Suemac and her crew
Prolly Liz Lopez

couple more might be in attendance.

In my opinion, I like pre-reg's since I play in such a sparse division. I am limited in the tourneys I can attend this year since I'm planning a wedding and honeymoon to Europe. Z-boaz is definitely one I WANT to make, but at the same time, I don't wanna go and only play in a field of 3. Last year, we had 5 Int women and 2 Adv women (but I was Int last year). So, hopefully this year there will be AT LEAST that many.

Please let me know if you know of women that will be there...I'm about 85% sure I will make it at this time, but I would like to make sure there will be some others.



I dont think u should worry about that this year. The local lady scene is really picking up. I am assuming that the following will be in attendance.
Stacia Pearce
De'Atra
Heidi Tesch
Stepahine Cantrell
Prolly Suemac and her crew
Prolly Liz Lopez
Lee Letts

couple more might be in attendance.

Melissa,

I can assure you that Dee and I are coming. I will have an answer on Jenn Beazley by Saturday, but I would bet yes for her too.
Stacey P from LO is a good bet. Will pre-reg within next week for Dee and I.

So, come to Texas and play some golf girlfriend!

Deidre will be playing Cedar hill, and possibly z-boaz as well, depending on how that one conflicts with her work schedule.

As for the pre-registration cost, it's pretty simple. It costs money to authorize a credit card. Every time you buy something with your credit card, the vendor must ask his chosen clearing house to verify with your bank that the funds or credit is available. They charge the vendor for this service. Most clearing houses also charge a monthly fee just to have the privilege of using their service. I guarantee that mace (or any TD worth his salt) isn't going to charge you $2 extra if you pre-register by mailing him a check or money order. The extra money is *not* a pre-registration fee. it's a fee associated with the convenience of paying with your credit card. I think a lot of players forget that a credit card is not (usually) the only way to pre-register.

You can pre-register in person at the doubles event, by mail at any time before the event, or probably in person at any previous event. Mace will have to speak for himself on this one, but I think it's a safe bet that he will accept Z-Boaz entry fees at the Cedar Hill event. There are lots of other options for pre-registering, but if you want to do it the easiest and most convenient way, you have to pay a very small convenience fee.

It wasn't that long ago that all gas stations charged more for credit than cash transactions. Many smaller restaurants and stores still do. To this day, if you use your Chevron card at a Chevron station (for example), you save a little bit of money. That's because they don't have to pay the clearing house a fee, so they pass the savings on to you. It may seem that many major retailers have eliminated the credit card fee, but in reality they have not. They simply build that fee into their normal pricing structure to account for the large number of credit card transactions.

Now, if it costs mace an extra $2 to take your credit card entry versus taking your cash or check in advance... why should he have to eat that cost?

Here is the updated results from Saturday. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6455#Advanced)

Here is the updated results from Sunday. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6456#Open)

Thanks for your help on this Ray.

Thanks ya'll! I definitely wanna make it. Now I just have to find someone to hitch a ride and shack up with. I'm workin' on it...most women don't have set plans yet though. I may be askin' some T-Town guys for some assistance in this area... :D

Justin Kerr pdga# is not correct.

His player rating in a little bit above 933. lol

It's totally worth the two bucks. When my buddy comes up and says, hey can you help me move...I just say "man...i would love too, but i already signed up and PAYED FOR this tourney, im really sorry" ;)

kerr = 21194 not 21994

Might bring Shannon and Jon p's girl from atx . . . . .

Good to see that you figured out about that cap lock key Guy! :cool:

The more ladies the merrier! Haven't seen Shannon in ages!

And Guy, your posts are much easier to read when the keyboard is not drunk!

HeY GUy, HoW iS YoUr haNd DoIng????
:D

Here is the updated results from Saturday. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6455#Advanced) Brian are still updating the rec div. I noticed my pdga # still isn't keyed in.

Here is the updated results from Sunday. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6456#Open)

Thanks for your help on this Ray.

Have to go to court . . . . . . they have some one testifying that I pointed the fire arm directly at them . . . . .we'll see how it goes . . . . as for the hand . . . .I got another . . . .

. . . . .O And cedAr HIll . . . . . I cAn AlMOsT TasTe IT . . . .

. . . . .O And cedAr HIll . . . . . I cAn AlMOsT TasTe IT . . . .



Delicious , isnt it !

Fire arm, that's funny !

BTW- Guy, play open with me @ CedaR hill.

Hey everyone, don't forget about the car giveaway on a ctp throw tomorrow at Crowley. Rain or shine it's still gonna happen. Around 1 pm. You can see the hole its gonna take place on from your ride in the parking lot, and wait in your car until its your turn to throw if you wish. Hey MM your car has over 300,000 miles on it. The one I'm giving away only has 165,000 miles on it. Might be worth checking out.

Talked with the pre katrina neighbors that now live in Kenner TX and they say it shouldn't be to far of a drive. As long as airfair is good I should be making the trip I can't wait and will there be food around or can I catch a ride with someoen.

Nevermind change of plans this is the only time I can take the act is this weekend.... Is there any other big tournaments in fort worth area I need to look at?

cedar hill is the weekend before zboaz open

I figure someone around here will know. What's up with Titledisc? Anyone know what the deal is, and if so, when it might be fixed.

Why are you trying to sign-up for Z~boaz Open or something? Titledisc has had the same stuff up on that page for awhile now....

I do not know about the rest of you but I am going stir crazy not being able to throw with this weather looming around all weekend.

just sign up at Maceman.com

I do not know about the rest of you but I am going stir crazy not being able to throw with this weather looming around all weekend.



I had that problem this weekend. Untill sunday afternoon.
Playing RIPT doubles @ z-boaz was friggin awesome. So what if there was freezing rain and frozen baskets ( yes the chains froze ) . Good times!

Brian, the round ratings for the Juniors aren't correct for the 2nd round. I don't think they'll be getting ratings for that 2nd round from the shorts.

yea... the basket in my backyard froze too. took a cool video of a putt being rejected by stiff chains. pretty funny looking. (i might have added a little water for effect)

Where is the midweek event going to be held?

My money goes on.........

Veterans.....

If we are using the Zboaz north course for the open it would be nice to see it at the midweek evernt.

now that would not be fair to out of towners who cannot make the mid week event.. :p

Maybe it would be worth it for you to come to town for it.

Not likely jake. I , myself, would like to see the midweek @ Crowley. But no tee pads, and possible bad weather, I could understand why it would not be there.

Crowley?
not going to happen. I got $100.00 that it is at the VET again.

I got $100.00 that it is at the VET again.



That would be the smart bet .

Head's up for all of the out-of-towners coming in for the Big Show. With the recent weather we have had here in the metroplex, expect not only Cedar Hill but Z-Boaz to be a little sloppy . I would bring an extra pair of socks and possibly shoes for these events. We still have few weeks to go , but the forcast is calling for rain and cold. FYI!

We will be working on getting as much mulch in problem areas as possible.

Crowley?
not going to happen. I got $100.00 that it is at the VET again.



Chrissy is SCARED to play Crowley....

Nothing to be scared of out there , all you need is a RHBH hyzer . :D

Besides, if the weather will give us a break, there will be a work day @ z-boaz @ 10 a.m. on Saturday.

Maceman, at this Cedar Hill tournament will we be on the road at a reasonable time? ( got to watch the Supper Bowl, the game starts at 5ish) At the PIO it was way too late :mad:

Maceman, at this Cedar Hill tournament will we be on the road at a reasonable time? ( got to watch the Supper Bowl, the game starts at 5ish) At the PIO it was way too late :mad:



That is super bowl sunday, OMFG. That sucks ! I hope that does not hurt attendance.

I am afraid that it might,sucks too because I really wanted to play Cedar Hill.As long as you have DVR you should be ok,just dont answer the phone when someone calls telling you about the game. :D

Maybe if we all pitched in a bought Mace a new laptop & printer. ;)

F-That, lets pitch in and get a tv out @ the event.
We could put our hands on that 103 inch LCD, it is only a couple of 10's of thousands of dollars. Chump change for all us big ballin' disc golfers. :D

Oh, and I bet you have the perfect place at home to put it after Sunday's viewing. :D :D :D

Or let Chris Ware do the computer work, we could be on the road by 4:20ish ;)

add 3 hours to that for Mace. :o

Oh, and I bet you have the perfect place at home to put it after Sunday's viewing. :D :D :D



That thing is probably bigger than any wall in my casa.

I would bet that the electricity bill would jump by @ least a 100 bucks! Not to mention the monies spent @ the eye doctor/

Tell me about that, we waited like for ever at PIO

add 3 hours to that for Mace. :o



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