<font color="blue"> hes geTTing REaDy for ROCk Hill... </font>

just working out one last detail

<font color="blue"> hes geTTing REaDy for ROCk Hill... </font>



Right on, I would love to see the PEOPLES CHAMP take home a title.

Let the broadcast begin, looking forward to it.

We like to spread the wealth here in Carolina, we have 4 powerful contenders up there so TThe Pro didn't feel he needed to represent this time. He will be at Winthrop, you'll see him at the top portion of the leaderboard. Word, Carolina in your house

Mini Thumber

just working out one last detail


<font color="blue"> TThanks!!!
</font>

Were there more pictures of the mixed doubles and divisional doubles being uploaded? I only saw those 15 or 20 they had up.

A little LOVE for Chris Hartman...

Former NorCal &amp; Par Infinity member.....leading the B Pool :D

Tied with him in the B pool is the Hoosier Brent Koontz who rep's MI also and Zach Vaughn and Jeff Kehule are in the mix also good luck Fella's

Whoa! Look at Selinske above the 50% line in A-pool with a 990 rated round! Nice shootin' Tim. :)

Tim is the only guy who has played in every single Pro Worlds in the Open division, even though he's been master's age for, oh, a year or so.

Whoa! Look at Selinske above the 50% line in A-pool with a 990 rated round! Nice shootin' Tim. :)

Tim is the only guy who has played in every single Pro Worlds in the Open division, even though he's been master's age for, oh, a year or so.



But hasn't finished in every worlds. Some of them, he signs up and plays a round/day or 2 and then leaves. I think one should have to finish these tournaments to have them fully count. Same concept as we don't get So Cal points if we don't finish the tournament.

But nice shootin, Tim, fo shizzle! I hope you can stay the entire week!!

Please for the love of GOD, get some water on the courses. There was no water out there this afternoon. The temp was in the 90's. Please get water on the courses. Please!!!!!

Shane

Please for the love of GOD, get some water on the courses. There was no water out there this afternoon. The temp was in the 90's. Please get water on the courses. Please!!!!!

Shane



Speaks volumes :eek:

ZZ stayin fluid

Second round scores for the 2007 PDGA Professional World Championships at Highbridge, WI have now been uploaded!

Wow, no cell phones, or service, and now no water. This could be serious. Even a pile of rocks may not be safe for this one.

Mini Thumber

Please for the love of GOD, get some water on the courses. There was no water out there this afternoon. The temp was in the 90's. Please get water on the courses. Please!!!!!

Shane



You make it sound like they are putting out no water out on the courses and that's not very fair. The water is being drank as fast as they're putting it out. They are aware of the situation and are doing everything possible to keep fresh ice water out on all courses.

Second round scores for the 2007 PDGA Professional World Championships at Highbridge, WI have now been uploaded!



THANK YOU TO EVERYONE HELPING OUT WITH SCORES!! :D you guys RULE!

I sure hope Tim didn't get hurt, because that was a pretty drastic swing in ratings between two rounds! (160 points)

All scores for the first day have been uploaded.

Heading off to the banquet to deliver the goods now...

see everyone in the morning!

All scores for the first day have been uploaded.




For only the Open men and Masters, no one else. :confused: /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

All scores for the first day have been uploaded.




For only the Open men and Masters, no one else. :confused: /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif


MPO and MPM were the only divisions scheduled to play two rounds today, so what's missing??? :confused:

Ah, did not know that. Thx for the info.

any mac users getting the radio broadcast to work?

Did anyone notice the Whining Midget had to go to Canada to find a Doubles Partner!? :D

He's already P.O.'d every U.S. Disc Golfer.
:mad:



This is VERY Funny! However, the term is little people.

im on a mac and i had to click on trouble hearing. then a new window comes up. scroll down and theres a pair of links that will work. they will open in itunes.

There is a lot of golf left... and just as expected, the top players are making there way into the top groups...

I can't name everyone... Wow for Northern CA.!!!

Hats off to the Final 9 Team...
<font color="red"> Anthon </font>Open
<font color="blue"> Oates </font>Masters
<font color="purple"> Burl </font> Open Women
<font color="green">Barsby </font> Open
<font color="brown">Hampton </font> Masters

YES..I'm excited...and I'm going to be sounding like a Cheerleader for the next 3 days!!!
Jen

Did anyone notice the Whining Midget had to go to Canada to find a Doubles Partner!? :D

He's already P.O.'d every U.S. Disc Golfer.
:mad:



This is VERY Funny! However, the term is little people.



I STAND corrected. :eek:

Little person is standing too, it just looks like he's sitting. :D

Any pictures of todays action?

Any pictures of todays action?



a few were posted here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157601134891335/)

but we want more, if the PDGA want to foot the bill for an airplane ride, I'll shoot all the pics for them :D

Go Brent Go!! :D

just an update for those who are not here...

round 2 was WINDY AS CRAP. This is scored as round 1 for the b pool and round 2 for the A pool.

Some of the worst wind I have every played in.

lets go Robert pick it up. shouldn't you be in bed?? :D

just got back from the awards...

Male player of the year is Barry Schultz with 44% of the vote.
Female player of the year is Des Reading
ROY is Kim Scott Wood.

Don't remember anything else.

And yes, Barry was there to accept before everyone asks.

Distance results?

Or did I miss them?

did i mention the phone issue SUXKSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Figure since I can't make it up there I would throw in a twist...

First person to email or pm me a picture of my sponsored hole(s) gets one free star disc ---- widye style of course.....!!!!!

I do believe I have 2 holes sponsored. So if you get me pictures of both holes I will give away two star discs!!

Free Shipping Also included WorldWide!!

Peace and Good Luck to everyone!! Enjoy the land of the North in Wisconsin.

Josh :cool:

PM me the picture here if you can or just email me at [email protected]

Aw I wish I knew what holes... I have photos of every hole on the complex haha

YOu have time...hehe Flip through them all....hehe

Since you can't reply on the results thread...
What is the highest possible score for the putting competition? Rico got 33 out of X possible points. Also, what does the competition entail, just increasing distances for a level putt?



3 points for first attempt, 2 points for 2nd attempt, -1 if you missed the comebacker.....
9 baskets - so best possible score = 45
stations were all around 10 meters, but 4 different types of baskets, around trees, thru alleys, on hilltop, uphill, downhill and over roll of hay in 20 mile an hour wind at times, depending on which time of day or which of the 2 days you did it...only 1 chance to go around, and no redo's or second day chances...

so some people had lots of wind and others had no wind...as all 9 baskets were on the hilltop area by tourny central

hope this helps people get a feel for the event

keith

CONGRATS KIM!!!!!

Schweb's favorite state to play in (maybe next to NC) and he's not there? He just shows up and wins tournaments, it's what he does...Schweb, why aren't ya there you mullet??

Werk sun

Yeah no kidding where is Schweb?

I be inda Cackalack werkin, paying bills.

<font color="blue"> hes geTTing REaDy for ROCk Hill... </font>



Right on, I would love to see the PEOPLES CHAMP take home a title.

Let the broadcast begin, looking forward to it.

Appreciate that, so would I.

YOu have time...hehe Flip through them all....hehe


Haha the thing is all of my hundreds of photos are from last summer ;) I could send you a pic of every. single. hole. Hahaha, three of each if you want!

Who got the Sportsmanship Award?

Congrats on a strong rookie year Bennett. Definitely some strong competition this year for ROY so big congrats to Kim and Adam as well.

Thanks Keith.

Timmy Gill (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=721954&amp;Main=721954#Post7 21954)

I really wish I could have been there to accept the award for TD's of the year.

But for all of the Tulsa Disc Sports Association I would like to thank the PDGA for giving us the opportunity to host the 2006 AM WORLDS.......I would like to thank all the players who came to this great state of OKLAHOMA, and all of you that voted for us.

But most of all I would like to thank all the hard working volunteers here in Tulsa and across the state that came together to help us put together one great event. From all the TD's here in Tulsa: Myself, Wayne Forrest, Dave Wise, Joe Rotan and many other key figures that made this happen we all thank you for your support.

It was really hard on me personally not being able to tour last year and play the big events that I have played in the past but getting this award is very special to me and all the other co TD's of the 2006 AM WORLDS!!!

THANKS!!!!

From what I heard about the event, Kev, you folks deserved it. Good job and congratulations... :)

Hey all,

If everything goes as planned, we will have live scoring this morning for the Open Women on <font color="blue"> Blueberry Hill!</font>

Click Here for Live Scoring! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/live.php?TournID=6277)

Hole 1 is a short turnover deuce hole of which Nadine was the only one to capitalize on. All three women took a 3 on the elevated and beautiful downhill hole 2 which plays to a basket on terraced ball golf tees. Considering the wind and OB on this hole, all competitors taking a 3 is very strong play. The tee for hole 3 is right outside the pro shop window where scoring central is, and it's a short open downhill drive which plays to a basket tucked into heavy woods. There's a neat "peek-a-boo" through the woods that allows one a direct line of sight to the basket from the tee, but is not wide enough for a competitor to use. Tavish's drive cut left early into some deep rough and she could only pitch out and lay up for four.

Both hole 4 and hole 5 are long uphill holes. The former is more open until playing to a protected basket while the latter is tightly wooded the whole way. 3 is a good score on both of these.

Looks like Tavish was the only deuce on hole#6 which is surprising since it's a 265' relatively wide open slightly downhill righty hyzer.

****, Angie is putting together a VERY consistant round. Bring it home to Iowa girl.

Hole 1 is a short turnover deuce hole ...


Huh?
http://www.playdg.com/courses/?s=WI&amp;c=blueberryhill&amp;h=1
This is a turnover? Is a lefty writing out the descriptions? :)

Both hole 4 and hole 5 are long uphill holes.


Hole 4 is uphill?
http://www.playdg.com/courses/?s=WI&amp;c=blueberryhill&amp;h=4
Ground rolls a little, but not much of an elevation change until the green, which is on a slight rock formation.


Just teasin' ya. My favorite course on the complex (although Gold was my favorite challenge) is Blueberry. I always played my best golf there last year.

Lots of scoring separation on the par 5 hole, possibly the signature hole at Blueberry Hill. The smart play is conservative shots to get down the 350 ft. tunnel, where it opens up as it crosses a ball golf green and then back into the woods where the basket rests up on large rocks. There's a world of trouble if you get off the fairway initially here.

OFF topic BUT...

Congrats Jen..on the coordinators spot....

We all know you will do NorCal PROUD.... :D

Lots of scoring separation on the par 5 hole, possibly the signature hole at Blueberry Hill. The smart play is conservative shots to get down the 350 ft. tunnel, where it opens up as it crosses a ball golf green and then back into the woods where the basket rests up on large rocks. There's a world of trouble if you get off the fairway initially here.



The live scoring only has the top 4. How is Des doing. I'm rooting for both the Iowa girls and expect her to make a move up today to contend with Angie.

Hole 10 is a 520 foot par 3 with an elevated tee but plays to a well protected pin. Additionally, approach shots to the long pin have to deal with an OB marsh before the polehole. Unfortunately, Manley found the OB.

Hole 12 is a gorgeous 590' par four and one of my favorites on the course. One throws a downhill drive of about 375 feet before a dogleg right, then makes an approach shot through one of three primary routes through trees to the pin. You feel great about a birdie 3 here.

Open men live scoring??

Way to get back up there Mitch Mac. Hang in there Coda...Rootin' for the okies :D

Hole#13 is 385' uphill over three separate ponds, none of which are visible from the tee. One avoids the initial two ponds on the drive, then makes an approach which must carry the third pond to reach the long pin. Unfortunately Nadine and Tavish were both in the water on this hole.

Way to get back up there Mitch Mac. Hang in there Coda...Rootin' for the okies :D



It was windy yesterday...thats why the OKIES did well! It looks like the weather map is calling for breezy days so I expect both the OKIES to finish in the top 10 possibly bring a title home

Hole 15 is 265 feet down a wooded corridor that bends to the right. The fairway is fairly generous and this is a good deuce run; I'm surprised to see so many fours here.

Hole 17 plays sharply uphill to a basket perched above a large exposed granite face, which is OB. The typical play is to lay-up short of the OB and make an approach that is longer than it looks because of the elevation gain, and combined with the OB makes for quite a knee-knocker.

Thank you so much for the running commentary on the holes to go along with the live scoring for this morning's lead Ladies card. Can anyone give an estimate on how long it will take before all the ladies' morning scores are updated? I'm not asking because I'm impatient, I just would like an estimate (1 hr, 2 hrs, 10 hrs) so that I'm not checking back every 15 minutes like I did yesterday so I can actually get some work done today! :)

Thank you!

I agree that was totally cool. Nice job on the commentary and the website playdg was also cool to switch back and forth to see the actual holes why they shoot them.

Commentary was sweet. A few of my favorite holes were missed though. But definitely thanks, I love reliving those holes!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BRINSTER!!!!! love you!!!!
let's go team huk lab!!

Birfday for a Brinsta Mullet, have a Great one

Does Open Men's tee off soon?

Hey all,

We now have live scoring this afternoon for the lead Masters card on Granite Ridge.

Click Here for Live Scoring! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/live.php?TournID=6277&amp;Div=MPM)

Keep it rolling Mitch Mac

Hole#3 on Granite Ridge is one of the most scenic on the complex. It's a 580 foot par 3 with a severe elevation drop. There is woods trouble right or left however if one isn't careful.

Pictures can be viewed here:

http://www.playdg.com/courses/?s=WI&amp;c=graniteridge

Cale stumbled a bit as Doss seems to be on a roll.

Hole#5 plays as a 525 foot slightly uphill par 3 with a very protected polehole. To the long pin on the left, the smart play is a placement shot before the woods to set up an open approach to the polehole.

here is the real par for every hole at granite for everyone out there..

333343434434343445 = 64

There are so many holes that are listed as 3's when they are obviously 4's

Hole 9 is 615 feet for crying out loud and it's a par 3?!?

Watch out for Mikey R from the CO...he's a freak of nature

here is the real par for every hole at granite for everyone out there..

333343434434343445 = 64

There are so many holes that are listed as 3's when they are obviously 4's

Hole 9 is 615 feet for crying out loud and it's a par 3?!?


I'm assuming you've played it? I could only throw, on a golf shot, 420ish max maybe a smidge longer with that downhill, and it was a not-so-hard three every time. Drive. Roc upshot. Drop in. Three. It is a long par 3, more along the lines of one of those "Par 3.5"s that are kind of annoying, but it is definitely a par 3.

Just curious, but is that really Hammocks real name or is it a joke or something else? Emory Wilson???

Hole#6 is the tightest woods hole on the nearly all open Granite Ridge course. It's 400 feet, slightly downhill, and off the fairway is disaster here; it looks like it tripped up some of our lead Masters.

Just curious, but is that really Hammocks real name or is it a joke or something else? Emory Wilson???

his real first name is Emory

..... Thanks Schweb....

Hole 9 is 615 feet for crying out loud and it's a par 3?!?



imo, a par 3 would mean the 'green' is reachable in 1 throw..........unless there is huge elevation I don't think too many people are going to putting for duece on a 615' hole....dunno, never seen the course but I'm guessing the hole is pretty much wide open??

imo, a par 3 would mean the 'green' is reachable in 1 throw..........


If you define "the green" as the 10 meter putting circle, then I would argue that a par-3 means you can reach the green in 2. Which you can do on this hole.

Disc golf isn't ball golf. You only need one putt from the circle whereas in ball golf you need two putts from "the green".

Well, you should only need one putt from the circle. I usually need more. :o

Does anyone in Highbridge, WI know Forrest Stille or has anyone seen him? I am here at IDGC and his relatives are looking for him. He and a group of friends were on their way to Pro Worlds as spectators, via the Minneapolis HWY 35 bridge that collapsed yesterday, and no one has been able to contact him! The family is unsure who he went. To my understanding the cell phone service there is not the strongest. Please pass on the word if you are reading this! If you have seen him, please have him call his family or if you have any information please contact me here at the IDGC.

IDGC
706-261-6342

Thank you in advance
Karolyn Garlock &amp; Dawn Howard

Hole#9 is 615 feet but has a severe elevation drop, and big arms could choose to attack the polehole if they wish. An OB marsh area forces many to play conservatively and lay up short left and play the hole like a par four. The polehole is also situated on a mound with an OB road present behind. Mitch McClellan threw his drive OB and Jim Oates threw his upshot OB into the road, but canned the comebacker putt.

http://www.playdg.com/courses/?s=WI&amp;c=graniteridge&amp;h=9

Does anyone in Highbridge, WI know Forrest Stille or has anyone seen him? I am here at IDGC and his relatives are looking for him. He and a group of friends were on their way to Pro Worlds as spectators, via the Minneapolis HWY 35 bridge that collapsed yesterday, and no one has been able to contact him! The family is unsure who he went. To my understanding the cell phone service there is not the strongest. Please pass on the word if you are reading this! If you have seen him, please have him call his family or if you have any information please contact me here at the IDGC.

IDGC
706-261-6342

Thank you in advance
Karolyn Garlock &amp; Dawn Howard



We have signs up at hilltop instructing Forrest Stille to contact event staff as soon as possible.

where is it listed as a par 3? through the link its listed as:
Public Par: 5
Pro Par: 4

All I can say is that there was only one water jug to be seen during the round and it was empty. I can only speak from personal experience. They also had some problems with the Bear course's water.

To be fair, there was water today on the course which was much appreciated. Thank you to whoever had the water situation for the Gold course in hand today.

If you define "the green" as the 10 meter putting circle, then I would argue that a par-3 means you can reach the green in 2. Which you can do on this hole.

Disc golf isn't ball golf. You only need one putt from the circle whereas in ball golf you need two putts from "the green".

Well, you should only need one putt from the circle. I usually need more. :o



the 'green' is not the 'circle', imo.

par 2/3/4/5 whatever, its total throws that matters not your relation to the so-called course par. just curious, how many open players dueced hole 9?

guess its a par 4 according to the link above, lead card in masters went 3,4,4,5. mtl, are you giving us bad info? again :)

Imo, hole#12 is the signature hole on the Granite Ridge course and one my favorites on the entire complex. Throw a fun downhill drive of about 300 feet to set up an uphill approach of almost 300 feet through a wooded corridor. It's pro par four golf at its finest. :cool:

par 2/3/4/5 whatever, its total throws that matters not your relation to the so-called course par. just curious, how many open players dueced hole 9?




Doesn't matter as long as a decent percentage took 4s. On par 3 disc golf holes that are mostly open, there are usually only two scores that dominate, maybe 1/3 are 2s and 2/3 are 3s with few 4s. There's nothing wrong with par 3 open holes where 2/3 get 3s and 1/3 get 4s. The typical version is called an "easy par 3" and a few here at Worlds are "tough par 3s."

Hole 14 plays to a long pin position that is well to the right of the polehole shown at playdg.com. I don't like the right route - on the drive I'd much rather throw a high annie over the trees on the left or a bullet shot between the trees. Jim Oates apparently found the OB and took a 5.

Come on Coda win dat chit!!!

Hole 16 plays about 450 feet downhill with an OB area in front of the polehole. I disagree with Robert Leonard's assertion that this is a par four - the green can be driven, although most will choose to lay up and make the very shortish pitch over the marsh for an up-and-down 3. Oates apparently found the OB on his drive.

http://www.playdg.com/courses/?s=WI&amp;c=graniteridge&amp;h=16

Hole 17 is another I'd disagree with Robert Leonard on. It's about 460 ft. up hill, but after the drive it's a shortish approach to the polehole. It would be a very very easy par four if it was designated as such. Big arms might have a run at deuce on this hole.

Hole 18 is 770 ft. and up up up hill - it's a slog to finish. As opposed to some of the other par 5s on the complex (e.g. hole#4 on the Bear, hole#8 on Blueberry, Highbridge Gold #3 and 6) the play on Granite Ridge#18 is less about placement and more about throwing as far as you can.

http://www.playdg.com/courses/?s=WI&amp;c=graniteridge&amp;h=18

Hole 9 is defintely a par 4. Most people (even good pros) need two shots to get into the putting area (IMHO, that's within 100' or so). I can't imagine anyone making 2 on that hole, unless they throw it in from 100' +, and then it should be a well-deserved eagle.

And yes, I have played it.

Chap

I disagree with Robert Leonard's assertion



That's simply unAmerican!

Seriously though, Jeff, Thanks for the hole by hole descriptions. I-net coverage of world's keeps getting better and better every year whether it's being held on a mountain top or the prairie lands. Kudos to the WI crew!

Can anyone else hear the radio broadcast? I can barely hear it, and my speakers are on full blast.

I am having no problems...

omg MTL is on.

just what we need, more MTL

Just curious, but is that really Hammocks real name or is it a joke or something else? Emory Wilson???

his real first name is Emory



For real? I don't think so. I googled Emory Wilson and up came someone who claims to be a "giant" so I think it's a joke....

On the PDGA Worlds radiofeed they confirmed that it's his real name. I think he should stop disc golfing and start play patty-cake as fast as he can.

par 2/3/4/5 whatever, its total throws that matters not your relation to the so-called course par. just curious, how many open players dueced hole 9?




Doesn't matter as long as a decent percentage took 4s. On par 3 disc golf holes that are mostly open, there are usually only two scores that dominate, maybe 1/3 are 2s and 2/3 are 3s with few 4s. There's nothing wrong with par 3 open holes where 2/3 get 3s and 1/3 get 4s. The typical version is called an "easy par 3" and a few here at Worlds are "tough par 3s."



Damnit Chuck get off the Discussion board and get back to TD'ing ;) :D

Okay...

All results from day 2 are up.

The great shuffle has occurred and the magic number is 184. Players at 184 or less made the A pool, 185 or greater means B pool.

Congrats to all those folks that made the cut!

Still have lots of stuff to do before we get over to Fly-Mart. Brian Sullivan has agreed to transport a copy of the results over to Fly-Mart right now for posting there.

On the PDGA Worlds radiofeed they confirmed that it's his real name. I think he should stop disc golfing and start play patty-cake as fast as he can.



They also said Coda Hatfield was from Tulsa....he's from Oklahoma City.

Brad's real first name IS Emory. Whenever we've had to write checks for him placing in the Wide Open, we have to make them out to "Emory Hammock". I don't know about "Emory Wilson Brad Hammock" being his full name, but it could be true.

Chap

BTW: Bamba Rico's real first name is Gilbert. :)

let's go peter shive, hope the thai-dri brings you luck my friend!

and for all the emory bashing, my prediction is this will fuel his fire and he will once again be world champ! i played with him in toccoa georgia a few years back and after carding 3s on the first 3 holes, he got mad, trying to find somebody to blame, looked back at us in disgust after he missed his birdie putt. what did he do? He proceeded to birdie the next 14 holes in one of the greatest displays of golf i have ever had the pleasure to witness!! go get em Brad, doin it hammock style!

Jenkins, Sandstrom, and Bratten all on the same card tomorrow... to bad they're not playing one of the longer courses in the morning... it would be a distance clinic.

Does anyone in Highbridge, WI know Forrest Stille or has anyone seen him? I am here at IDGC and his relatives are looking for him. He and a group of friends were on their way to Pro Worlds as spectators, via the Minneapolis HWY 35 bridge that collapsed yesterday, and no one has been able to contact him! The family is unsure who he went. To my understanding the cell phone service there is not the strongest. Please pass on the word if you are reading this! If you have seen him, please have him call his family or if you have any information please contact me here at the IDGC.

IDGC
706-261-6342

Thank you in advance
Karolyn Garlock &amp; Dawn Howard





I hope they have located Forrest, I don't know him but I hope they are making announcements at the flymart tonight. PLEASE FIND THIS GUY! His family has got to be worried sick if they still haven't heard from him.

BTW: Bamba Rico's real first name is Gilbert. :)



:oHe's not gonna like THAT getting out....... :D

omg MTL is on.

just what we need, more MTL



Did you not like the fact that through a promotion of disc golf, like PDGA radio, that I was able to promote disc golf?

Thanks to the PDGA for giving me a great time. However, I was supposed to be on at 5, but didnt get there till 5:30.

Want to know why?

The blog is up and running again, and soon, the story of why MTL was 30 minutes late will be told.....

The flymart was tonight right?

I have been a miss with getting in touch with anyone. Does anyone know if there was a table marked WIDYE and/or possibly Mark "Moose" Luebeck and Barry Schultz were vending from there?

I didn't have much about maybe 20+ items but I heard Mark and Barry were going to bring stuff up also.

Just checking in to make sure they were able to get a table like I was told. Peace!!

Good Luck everyone!!

Go Bobby Hill!!
:o

:D:D:D:D:D

Where are the distance results posted and does anybody know what discs were being thrown? Thanks Mark

Has anybody else seen Des' interview on DGTV? Not a happy camper.

I just watched it, that's awesome. I am glad that she did not pull any punches. It sounds like she made some legitimate points.

Has anybody else seen Des' interview on DGTV? Not a happy camper.

why are they playing the whites?

"pooh on it"

good shootin smalls

Holy COW - she's not happy at all.

However... maybe it's the great equalizer? Des CLEARLY has a major advantage over 80-90% of the womens field because of her D - not to take anything away from the other parts of her game, just that she has so much more D than her competitors. Maybe this course levels the playing field and takes the driver out of her hand, in an effort to test the whole game, not just the 400 foot hyzer?

I agree with no trees in the middle of the fairway (it's called a FAIRway for a reason, not a SKETCHway, or SNEAKway, or LUCKway). And that tall basket in the trees... why? I don't mind a basket where height is a little outside the "normal" ranges, but why must you place it where angles to the basket are directly blocked by three tree trunks? Stupid design - you don't need parlor tricks and mickey mouse design to have a fair, challenging course.

Good luck Nicole Frazier, and also to Des. Hopefully they can finish in that order.

i dont have a problem with baskets at different heights, between trees, or on top of rocks... but they should NEVER be leaning

Has anybody else seen Des' interview on DGTV? Not a happy camper.



Arrghh. Can't get it to work. Only lasts 3 seconds. Angela starts to say her first word then it stops. :confused:

I had the same problem and then switched to the QT version which worked.

I just tried to watch it and it's only a 3 second clip now. Perhaps she has been censured.

What was the nature of her complaint?

hit the "QT" version instead of the windows version as krups pointed out

Hey all,

We now have live scoring this morning for the lead Open card on Blueberry Hill, and the lead Grandmasters card on the Woodland Bear course!

Click Here for Live Scoring! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/live.php?TournID=6277&amp;Div=)

Short summary of Des's complaints:
-Playing the white tees. She's too good for them.
-Trees in the fairways. I think she hit a couple of them.
-The elevated basket. She 4 putted.

Overall, I think she is just having a bad day.

hit the "QT" version instead of the windows version as krups pointed out



My ancient Gov't. computer must be rejecting QT. I used to have it. Tried to download it. I have Windows - no problem.

Oh well......

The lead Grandmasters card just played hole#2 on the Woodland Bear course. This hole has three options off the tee, of which the righty hyzer route seems to be the preferred play. Fairway placement is critical no matter what to earn a birdie three on this technical pro par four hole; this hole was the deciding factor in the World Mixed Doubles championships on Sunday. This morning, three out of the four top grandmasters got the birdie three - that's outstanding play! :cool:

Short summary of Des's complaints:
-Playing the white tees. She's too good for them.
-Trees in the fairways. I think she hit a couple of them.
-The elevated basket. She 4 putted.

Overall, I think she is just having a bad day.



Let me first preface this by saying I'm from Iowa. I love Des and her game. She's clearly been the best woman player in the world the past year or so. But ....

Not to bag on Des but that just sounds like sour grapes. The course is the same for all the players and getting upset at the course setup doesn't nothing but take your foucs away from playing. Plus if the course is too short then why isn't she under par? It is kind of like players complaining about the setup at a USGA event. You simply can't complain about the course, the weather or the baskets during the event, they are the same for all.

finally heard the Des rant on QT....That was AWESOME!!!! I'm not sure but I think she doesn't like that hanging basket in the trees on 17.

I agree on the putt-putt remark....does someone need to stand near the basket on 18 to grab their putter before it disappears down the pipe?

The girls are professionals they can handle the long tees. I would agree with Des on all but the trees in the fairways...Although, I'm not there to see how bad they are but trees in the fairway are OK as long as there are clear paths through them.....There needs to be FAIRways just not ways through the trees.


:D:D:D:D:D

Marcus Kallstrom just hit about a 65-70 foot putt for deuce on the 415-foot Blueberry Hill#4. His comment when he hit the putt was "Oops." :D

Markus K�llstr�m is now leading the Open division at the 2007 PDGA Professional World Championships in Highbridge, WI. Nate Doss took a 4 on Blueberry Hill#5, while K�llstr�m deuced.

http://www.playdg.com/courses/?s=WI&amp;c=blueberryhill

With a birdie on hole#6, Markus K�llstr�m has now scored five deuces in a row!

Shouldn't the world champ have the complete game? that includes short holes as well as shot placement every body else seems to be doing alright with the course!!

No excuses

What happened to the pictures in the flash probram that was on the home page?

I didn't see them in the picture gallery you have now up.

Getting work done just isn�t gonna happen till this round is over.

There should only be 6-8 short holes on any worlds course..Like a real golf course...It's the Worlds.

It would be like having the PGA Championship at some muni par 3 course

Where are the distance results posted and does anybody know what discs were being thrown? Thanks Mark



Distance results are now posted in the info thread within the PDGA Announcements subforum.

2007 PDGA Professional World Championships info (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=722568&amp;page=0&amp;vc=1&amp;PHPSE SSID=faba057345da5f6d7922dec869241842#Post722568)

With a birdie on hole#6, Markus K�llstr�m has now scored five deuces in a row!



Way to put the JINX on him...4'd the next hole :D

but its still about shot placement if you are that good it should be real easy on a short course she should be kickin there butts:)

Shouldn't the world champ have the complete game? that includes short holes as well as shot placement every body else seems to be doing alright with the course!!

No excuses



While I feel for Des, I have to agree with the above statement. Being the professional she is, I would bet she and Jay have been through the course(s) long before the beginning of the competition giving her (them) the opportunity to play the course(s) and become aware of the potential issues or hazzards.

but its still about shot placement if you are that good it should be real easy on a short course she should be kickin there butts:)



I disagree to the fullest...shorter holes brings the luck factor into it more than the skill factor and it becomes a putting contest instead of a golf competition.

Hole#3 on the Woodland Bear course is a 585-ft. pro par 4 with rolling terrain, a well defined fairway, and heavy rough off the fairway. On the lead Grandmasters card, only Randy Beers was able to score the birdie 3.

Putting contest??? SHES Real good at that

I am not trying to argue that the course is not great. but everyone is PLAYING the same course and I would feel that everyone pre played the courses and they all know what to expect !

I like des but NO Excuses just play the same course as everyone else to the best of your ability . sign the card and get to the next round thats what I would do.

JMO thats all

but its still about shot placement if you are that good it should be real easy on a short course she should be kickin there butts:)



I disagree to the fullest...shorter holes brings the luck factor into it more than the skill factor and it becomes a putting contest instead of a golf competition.



Because Hole 17 at Winthrop is only 249 feet and surrounded by OB....carding a bird is lucky? :p Maybe I am not comparing apples to apples here, but I cant see your point Kevin. (Of course this may also be why I am not a Pro yet!) :D

but its still about shot placement if you are that good it should be real easy on a short course she should be kickin there butts:)



I disagree to the fullest...shorter holes brings the luck factor into it more than the skill factor and it becomes a putting contest instead of a golf competition.



Regardless, her comments may be valid, but while in the tourney your energies should be focused on your performance, not about being upset at the course setup. It is the same course for all players. Some courses are longer and they'll favor the long throwers, some are shorter and they'll favor the better putters and more acurate drivers. Either way all you can do at this point is play the course taht is there in front of you. The time to express displeasure with the setup is before or after the event is completed. During th event your energies need to be focused on the event. Plus when you are getting beat and complain about the setup it just makes you look bad.

All that said, I wouldn't be the least bit suprised if makes a surge and wins the whole **** thing. She's got the game to do it ... but Angie is a MONEY putter.

Again, Randy Beers has the only birdie, a four, on the pro par 5 fourth hole on the Woodland Bear course.

Oh and about the trees in the fairway on alot of our courses we have alot of trees in the fairway I don't remember her complaining about them last year at worlds IE 18 at blackhawk(poke and hope)( I know it wasn't pro worlds)Don't get me wrong I love our courses here in tulsa I think blackhawk has helped me alot in my shot placement and I think it has improved my game three fold ;) not that my rating shows it. Just be a pro and again NO EXCUSES :D

Live scoring shows a nice battle in MPO!

I'm not saying you can't have ANY short holes but all short holes is not what the World Championships are all about....as for 17 at Winthrop....It all depends on which way the wind is blowing if that hole is lucky or not. If it is a headwind...It is ALL LUCK!!! ;)

Agreed!!!

Only one course the women are playing has a lot of short holes. The other 2 are not short courses. I don't think throwing a short course into the mix hurts anything, it adds another element to the game.

Des is the bomb!

Disc Golf is a game of emotions. She did get spit hard on the putt for 4. Did she kick her bag or smash her chair into a tree? That short putt for 5 is going to haunt her!

I think that her comments were perfect. She told exactly how she felt. Now if they would have talked to her an hour later, she may not have been as fired up.

Spit, miss, screw job, drop in will tend to make you mad.

I liked the look on Angela had on her face when she said "she liked the course". She thought Des was going to throw a stick at her.

but its still about shot placement if you are that good it should be real easy on a short course she should be kickin there butts:)



I disagree to the fullest...shorter holes brings the luck factor into it more than the skill factor and it becomes a putting contest instead of a golf competition.



Regardless, her comments may be valid, but while in the tourney your energies should be focused on your performance, not about being upset at the course setup. It is the same course for all players. Some courses are longer and they'll favor the long throwers, some are shorter and they'll favor the better putters and more acurate drivers. Either way all you can do at this point is play the course taht is there in front of you. The time to express displeasure with the setup is before or after the event is completed. During th event your energies need to be focused on the event. Plus when you are getting beat and complain about the setup it just makes you look bad.




That is a VERY GOOD post! ;) and you are absolutely right!

Great post!!!I agree as well

Hey it just occured to me, why are Kevin and Boobs sitting in front of computers and not playing this event??! Or did I miss your names somewhere?

Markus K�llstr�m just deuced the 520 ft. 10th hole on Blueberry Hill. His drive reportedly hit the pole.

kevin's waiting to play catch with his young 'un.

We both are expecting fathers ;) Mine any day now...Boobs in a month or two right?

through #10 Kallstrom has a lot of dueces! 3 2 2 2 2 2 4 5 2 2

My baby girl is due in November :). I will be at USDGC, can't wait!!!

Congrats gentlemen!

I hear Rocs make teething alot easier!

Hope you two (boobs, k Mack) do well at the Open.

What.. no dots ?

We want dots.

3 way tie through 11 for 2nd. Doss has lost one stroke thus far.

Nathan Doss 189 -32 159 -27 3 3 2 3 4 2 2 4 2 3 2
Cale Leiviska 191 -30 162 -24 2 3 2 3 3 3 2 4 2 3 2
Markus K�llst 191 -30 162 -24 3 2 2 2 2 2 4 5 2 2 3
Josh Anthon. 191 -30 162 -24 2 3 2 3 3 2 2 4 2 3 3

THANKS!!!!

We are starting the new generation of TEAM TWISTED FLYER babies :D

3 way tie through 11 for 2nd. Doss has lost one stroke thus far.

Nathan Doss 189 -32 159 -27 3 3 2 3 4 2 2 4 2 3 2
Cale Leiviska 191 -30 162 -24 2 3 2 3 3 3 2 4 2 3 2
Markus K�llst 191 -30 162 -24 3 2 2 2 2 2 4 5 2 2 3
Josh Anthon. 191 -30 162 -24 2 3 2 3 3 2 2 4 2 3 3



Wouldnt it be nice to see at least the second card as well? If my old memory serves me correctly, there was an NT earlier this year where Feldberg fought back from the second card for the win??

Have you seen these ?

http://a453.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/25/l_233e81334348b94c46fb2153f202d6a4.jpg

...doesn't really appear that the leaders are allowing much room for someone to make a move- haven't been to highbridge but it seems like they're playing at a high level this morning.

Yes, thank you. That's funny Kev :)

Very cute! Not to start a war here; but was that a lesson on what brand NOT to throw?!? lol

:eek: :p

With a deuce on hole#10 of the Woodland Bear course, Randy Beers is now 2 strokes ahead of Dave Greenwell.

Great post!!!I agree as well



Thanks. I dabble in sports psychology. I could go on all day about how the brain and sports is so dependant. About how the subconscious and conscious work together and the power of mental thoughts over the physical world. Oh man the human brain is a cool thing.

Ever heard of an athlete saying they are in the zone? What does that really mean? Here is what some of the latest research suggest happens when you are in the zone. Your brain is made up of 2 parts, the conscious and the subconscious (obviously the brain has many parts but for the sake of this discussion we�ll focus on these 2). The conscious is the part that controls what you physically do. The subconscious is like a super computer that processes information and controls things you aren�t thinking about. The subconscious also has a lot to do with muscle memory and how that is controlled. When an athlete is in the zone they are basically letting their conscious mind go and allowing the subconscious to control their movements. Basketball players will often say, �I was just throwing it up and everything when in.� That�s because they where not thinking about it, but rather just doing it. They�ve made all the shots a hundred times before; it is just allowing your subconscious to take over and control your body. I know this is true because when I�m having a killer round and putting or driving exceptionally well, I just go, I don�t think. It just happens.

Another interesting part of how these 2 parts of the brain work is on shots where there is a hazard, like water. Ever go up the tee where there is water on the left and say to yourself, �Don�t throw it in the water.� Then you step up and throw it right into the water. The subconscious part of your brain doesn�t understand do and do not. It only understands the water portion of that thought. So when you think to yourself, �do not throw it in the water�, your subconscious interprets that as �throw in water�. What you should be doing is thinking, �Throw it on this line to the right�. Focusing on what you should do and not on what you shouldn�t do will yield much better results. Plus your subconscious understands mental pictures VERY well. That is why you want to visualize the shot several times beforehand, then let go and let your subconscious take over and make that shot.

Markus K�llstr�m just deuced hole#13 at Blueberry Hill which plays 385 ft. uphill over 3 ponds.

jeff and larry - you guys are doing a great job!!!

Wouldnt it be nice to see at least the second card as well? If my old memory serves me correctly, there was an NT earlier this year where Feldberg fought back from the second card for the win??

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Wouldn't mind seeing the second card. Looking for Coda to make a move. Wonder how he is shooting?

Wouldnt it be nice to see at least the second card as well? If my old memory serves me correctly, there was an NT earlier this year where Feldberg fought back from the second card for the win??



They've done it in the past. Not sure why it's not being done now. Seems like Highbridge is giving the technogeeks a little bit of a challenge. ;)

Very cute! Not to start a war here; but was that a lesson on what brand NOT to throw?!? lol

:eek: :p



LOL His dad throws discraft. I'll let him make that choice when the time comes.

So Brent Koontz's 48 is the highest rated round so far. That is pretty sweet. Is that a course record? and what course was it?

jeff and larry - you guys are doing a great job!!!



Thanks, John.

Ok, is there a computer expert out there that can put in the website so those of us that are not pc literate can bring up the distance results. I'm just an am you know.
Thanks
Mini Thumber

So Brent Koontz's 48 is the highest rated round so far. That is pretty sweet. Is that a course record? and what course was it?



He and Chris Hartman threw 48's that round, if they both played the same course. Granite Ridge or Blueberry I believe. Schedule (http://www.2007proworlds.com/images/PW2007_Sch_v3.pdf)

You mean this? (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=722568&amp;Main=720832#Post7 22568)

Scores coming soon? i gotta leave for work. ohhhh, wishn' i was there! thanks to those doin the live scoring!!

oh yeah, the hangin basket-ur kiddin me? better yet, the hangin basket surrounded by trees- wow.

oh yeah, the hangin basket-ur kiddin me? better yet, the hangin basket surrounded by trees- wow.



There is going to be mixed reviews on this. Other majors get away with gimmicky, putt-putt things.....like clowns mouths, lattic fences, and hay bale rings.

I'm in the group that would rather keep it more like "golf" and less like "putt putt golf and games".

oh yeah, the hangin basket-ur kiddin me?




What course and hole number is the hanging basket? I have seen a hole in the ground at Trophy Lakes in South Carolina, but a hanging basket at Worlds... come on....

Not to mention, a hole blocked on three sides by trees is stupid. Insert a picture of a hole in Lubbock, TX where a drive five feet deep means you are playing Plinko for birdie.

These guys are too good to have that stuff determine a World Championship.

Not to mention, a hole blocked on three sides by trees is stupid. Insert a picture of a hole in Lubbock, TX where a drive five feet deep means you are playing Plinko for birdie.


That scenario means that good golfer will realize that it is far more important to land on the one open side to have a look, and they will try to make sure they do just that. Landing 5 feet too deep to leave no look is a bad shot there, not bad luck.

There was also a hanging basket at 05 Worlds, Noxanixom or Roxandstickum...what ever that place was call that I nearly broke my leg and got a beautiful scar on my knee :(

I don't know what the complaints about the white tees are about. Per the schedule literature, there is only one course where the ladies play the white tees, and that is Highbridge Gold. Per the literature, the white tees come in at 7945 feet, making HG Whites by far the longest course they play. Unless it's a 27 hole course or something. Is it?

Otherwise I don't see the problem. Blueberry Hill is listed as 6450 feet and Woodland Bear at 5505 feet. Almost 8000 feet for HGW isn't exactly pitch-n-putt.

Thanks Friend, looks like Ill be am for a while. Steroid check, 200 m, un-believeable.
Thanks
Mini Thumber

That scenario means that good golfer will realize that it is far more important to land on the one open side to have a look, and they will try to make sure they do just that. Landing 5 feet too deep to leave no look is a bad shot there, not bad luck.

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obviously, but i feel that if you get yourselft inside the circle, you should have a FAIR putt. let's say you pure some sick drive 400 ft. through a beautifully defined fairway, then you get up there for a putt, and you have nothing.

Anway, let's leave the standards and rules to the other discussion threads and focus on SCORES!

Leslie, CP and I were trying to figure why the hell you weren't there?

There must have been something really important for you to miss Worlds and Stevie's birthday ;)

$$$$$- working!
we bought a house(totally redoing everything-not even living there yet) and i started wedding planning----so i figured i'd take this worlds off. love you guys!!
i am now off to work- ahhhhhhhhhh

frizzaks in the a pool where they belong

tear it boys

ZZ snitches

Recent scores for the 2007 PDGA Professional World Championships at Highbridge, WI have now been uploaded! Click on my signature file below.

4th round scores are up and where is the scoring differential? Everyone in the top 30 shot the same score within 6 strokes...looks like that course needs to be tweaked a little

Hey all,

We will have live scoring this afternoon for the lead Open card on the Granite Ridge course, and the lead Masters card on the Woodland Bear course!

Click Here for Live Scoring! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/live.php?TournID=6277)

in how long will they tee off?

awesome to see Keith Warren doing great even though he hasn't been touring much at all.


did Matt Orum get hurt that last round or something ???

Am I blind or did Matt Peckham disappear

nevermind my sight came back

KEITH IS THE BEST LEFTY IN THE WORLD!

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Mother of all thread hijacks!

<u>Aces thus far at the PDGA Professional World Championships in Highbridge, WI:</u>

<table border="2"><tr><th colspan=1> Division </th><th> PDGANum </th><th> First Name </th><th> Last Name </th><th> State </th><th> Country </th><th> Hole </th><th> Dist (feet) </th></tr>
<tr><td> MPM </th><th> 24630 </th><th> Jeff </th><th> Rzepka </th><th> OH </th><th> USA </th><th> Woodland Bear #10 </th><th> 155 </td></tr>
<tr><td> MPM </th><th> 3351 </th><th> Jim </th><th> Oates </th><th> CA </th><th> USA </th><th> Woodland Bear #12 </th><th> 230 </td></tr>
<tr><td> MPO </th><th> 30896 </th><th> Taylor </th><th> Sears </th><th> OK </th><th> USA </th><th> Granite Ridge#15 </th><th> 310 </td></tr>
<tr><td> MPS </th><th> 23 </th><th> Jim </th><th> Palmeri </th><th> NY </th><th> USA </th><th> Woodland Bear #8 </th><th> 240 </td></tr>
<tr><td> MPO </th><th> 16000 </th><th> Ben </th><th> Calhoun </th><th> MI </th><th> USA </th><th> Highland Gold#16 </th><th> 270 </td></tr>
<tr><td> MPO </th><th> 14763 </th><th> Evan </th><th> Brummet </th><th> CO </th><th> USA </th><th> Highland Gold#7 </th><th> 310 </td></tr>
<tr><td> MPM </th><th> 7287 </th><th> Michael </th><th> Misakian </th><th> MN </th><th> USA </th><th> Highland Gold#9 </th><th> 355 </td></tr>
</table>

Mother of all thread hijacks!



Sorry ;), it's for a good cause!!! :D

Hole#2 at Granite Ridge is about 315 feet and pretty much wide open except for some woods if you stray right. Kind of shocking to see that of the top Open card, only Rico deuced it.

http://www.playdg.com/courses/?s=WI&amp;c=graniteridge&amp;h=2

As much as I love the live scoring, there could be a bit more paying attention to detail. Something is definately messed up with the masters scorecards..... I'm sure the start/current totals are way off...

We're aware of the issue with the totals. However, the "To Par" numbers are correct. Please reference the hole scores and the "To Par" totals for the rest of the round.

We're aware of the issue with the totals. However, the "To Par" numbers are correct. Please reference the hole scores and the "To Par" totals for the rest of the round.



Dude you guys are on top of it. Thanks for the super coverage.

KEITH IS THE BEST LEFTY IN THE WORLD!


wrong, Scott Martin

Hole#3 is a 580-ft. par 3 with a serious drop in elevation. Nate Doss deuced it from about 25 feet away, and K�llstr�m 3-putted it to take a bogey 4.

http://www.playdg.com/courses/?s=WI&amp;c=graniteridge&amp;h=3

KEITH IS THE BEST LEFTY IN THE WORLD!


wrong, Scott Martin



Scott is retired...but i would have to give it to Mela until Keith does it more consistanly...but Keith is VERY good in Wisconsin

LOL... I flunked math... Just kidding, I saw that the "to par" numbers were correct, and while I am at it I had better remember to thank you guys for the coverage... It sure makes the work day fly by :D

is there something different on #4 than whats on the playdg.com ???

cause the top card pros only took 3s on what looks like an easy birdie hole for a righty

Scott is retired



He is still the best lefty in the world.

yea sombody should have bridie hole 4

oates is taken charge

Keep it up Jim and Nate GO NORCAL

Dean Tannock threw his drive into the woods on Highbridge Gold#18 this morning, and unfortunately impaled his leg on a stick while making his approach shot. Dean is back from the doctor and he's okay, but the doctor won't let him play anymore. :( Get well soon, Dean! :cool:

keep it up Bratten..

Looks like the rocks are kicking back on the Woodland Bear. ;)

Looks like the rocks are kicking back on the Woodland Bear. ;)



LOL. Thanks. ;)

Dean Tannock threw his drive into the woods on Highbridge Gold#18 this morning, and unfortunately impaled his leg on a stick while making his approach shot. Dean is back from the doctor and he's okay, but the doctor won't let him play anymore. :( Get well soon, Dean! :cool:



I'm glad Dr Doug was at the Worlds in PA cuz if I would have went to an ER the Dr. may have kept me out of that worlds and there is NO WAY I was going to have that. That's a shame that Deano can't continue, he's one of my favorites

No one will deuce hole 9 only because they weren't using the playdg.com recommended disc.

I personally think that if you are playing in the Pro Women's division you should be playing the Pro or Gold tees on all of the courses. If you have a problem playing these tees then you should still be playing amateur. Shorter tees lead to a luckier round and luck really shouldn't be the majority factor on a World's course. Not even if it's just one course. The field should never be "evened out" by shorter tee pads. The best player should win. In one of the prev posts someone mentioned distance being a factor for the girls and that distance should be evened out because not every girl throws that far. I say boo hoo!! Work on your game!! None of us that throw 400 feet started there. We worked our butts off to be able to throw that far! Now the ones who have worked the hardest on their games are being threatened with the attitude that all things should be equal? Not Fair! It seems that the majority of the people that think that Professional Women should be playing from short tee pads are men. Little men. Men who would probably be beaten up by those same pro women if all the teepads were the same.

The repeater for the walkie-talkies seems to be down because we're not getting any signal from our scorers out in the field. We've sent someone to check out the problem. Hold tight...

Little men.



I am a little man and I think you should play the longs.

I personally think that if you are playing in the Pro Women's division you should be playing the Pro or Gold tees on all of the courses. If you have a problem playing these tees then you should still be playing amateur. Shorter tees lead to a luckier round and luck really shouldn't be the majority factor on a World's course. Not even if it's just one course. The field should never be "evened out" by shorter tee pads. The best player should win. In one of the prev posts someone mentioned distance being a factor for the girls and that distance should be evened out because not every girl throws that far. I say boo hoo!! Work on your game!! None of us that throw 400 feet started there. We worked our butts off to be able to throw that far! Now the ones who have worked the hardest on their games are being threatened with the attitude that all things should be equal? Not Fair! It seems that the majority of the people that think that Professional Women should be playing from short tee pads are men. Little men. Men who would probably be beaten up by those same pro women if all the teepads were the same.



The only thing better than reading this was actually hearing Des say it :DGotta love freedom of speech.

I personally think that if you are playing in the Pro Women's division you should be playing the Pro or Gold tees on all of the courses. If you have a problem playing these tees then you should still be playing amateur. Shorter tees lead to a luckier round and luck really shouldn't be the majority factor on a World's course. Not even if it's just one course. The field should never be "evened out" by shorter tee pads. The best player should win. In one of the prev posts someone mentioned distance being a factor for the girls and that distance should be evened out because not every girl throws that far. I say boo hoo!! Work on your game!! None of us that throw 400 feet started there. We worked our butts off to be able to throw that far! Now the ones who have worked the hardest on their games are being threatened with the attitude that all things should be equal? Not Fair! It seems that the majority of the people that think that Professional Women should be playing from short tee pads are men. Little men. Men who would probably be beaten up by those same pro women if all the teepads were the same.



I love Des, I love her game, She could and probably will most likely still win.

I 100% understand about being unset at playing the whites and she's got a volid point there. The top women players shouldn't be playing the whites. But the comments about luck are disrepectfull to the women who shot well. She essentially was saying that they shot well because they where lucky, not because they are skilled. That is a discredit to Angie and those that shot well. And if the course was soo short and easy then you should have shot better. SOUR GRAPES.

But I love the fact that she is so passionate and competitive. That is great. And props to DGTV for being right there to get the interview. DGTV is the awesome.

The repeater for the walkie-talkies seems to be down because we're not getting any signal from our scorers out in the field. We've sent someone to check out the problem. Hold tight...


Thanks for the info... great that you've got the scoring up'n'running again. There are quite a few of us following the lead card from this side of the atlantic... despite the 10h time zone difference... Go Markus!

I'm sure this has been asked; Live scoring for Open. Is the current "to par" correct or is the current "total" correct?

Okay, we're back up and running now. :cool:

We're aware of the issue with the totals. However, the "To Par" numbers are correct. Please reference the hole scores and the "To Par" totals for the rest of the round.



nevermind /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I'm sure this has been asked; Live scoring for Open. Is the current "to par" correct or is the current "total" correct?


Current "to par" is correct.

As a male with a background in Ball golf long before getting into disc golf (and who is not very good), I will tell you that at major championships in ball golf, there are holes that challenge players on every level, whether it is their diving ability, accuracy, short game/approach game and putting.

That being said (and so I do not get lambasted by those that hate the comparisons between ball and disc), I believe that a world championship should be played in challenging conditions, but not in conditions that cater to one person's game necessarily. Just because Des thinks the course are too short, does that mean they really are? Just because there is a tree (or multiple trees) in a fairway, does that make the hole tricked up or does it result in players to have to think more about what shot to make? This sounds alot like the grousing that happens occasionally in ball golf U.S. Opens, when certain players are not playing well.

As a final note, I have all the respect for Des for what she has accomplished in this sport and the promotion of it.

Steve

I'm sure this has been asked; Live scoring for Open. Is the current "to par" correct or is the current "total" correct?



The "To Par" numbers are correct. Please reference the hole scores and the "To Par" totals for the rest of the round.

As a male with a background in Ball golf long before getting into disc golf (and who is not very good), I will tell you that at major championships in ball golf, there are holes that challenge players on every level, whether it is their diving ability, accuracy, short game/approach game and putting.

That being said (and so I do not get lambasted by those that hate the comparisons between ball and disc), I believe that a world championship should be played in challenging conditions, but not in conditions that cater to one person's game necessarily. Just because Des thinks the course are too short, does that mean they really are? Just because there is a tree (or multiple trees) in a fairway, does that make the hole tricked up or does it result in players to have to think more about what shot to make? This sounds alot like the grousing that happens occasionally in ball golf U.S. Opens, when certain players are not playing well.

As a final note, I have all the respect for Des for what she has accomplished in this sport and the promotion of it.

Steve



Everyone has a less than average round from time to time. It's just not a good thing when one comes during World's, or any Major for that matter. She was interviewed while that bad taste was still in her mouth and for once she showed it. Her true champion colors will start to show again once she knocks down a few birdies and reels in the competition....although Angela is playing some KILLER golf!

Markus K�llstr�m just deuced hole#14 on Granite Ridge which at 500 ft. long and a severe dogleg right has been playing as a pro par four. This guy is just unreal. :cool:

I love Des, I love her game, She could and probably will most likely still win.

I 100% understand about being unset at playing the whites and she's got a volid point there. The top women players shouldn't be playing the whites. But the comments about luck are disrepectfull to the women who shot well. She essentially was saying that they shot well because they where lucky, not because they are skilled. That is a discredit to Angie and those that shot well. And if the course was soo short and easy then you should have shot better. SOUR GRAPES.

But I love the fact that she is so passionate and competitive. That is great. And props to DGTV for being right there to get the interview. DGTV is the awesome.



I don't have "sour grapes" about anything except the fact that I cannot be there to comment on these issues in person. Thank you for being so observant as to whom you are replying to sir. (Des did not write this!! she would be more eloquent) I am not taking away anything from any of my girls that shot well! There are quite a few of them that could possibly win. And they are ALL my friends! The simple fact is that none of the top women should be satisfied with playing lesser teepads.

I have spent a good part of my disc golf career fighting for equality in this sport - equal tee pads, equal entry fees, equal %of payout by division - both as an Am Woman &amp; now as a Pro Woman. It seems silly, that even in a Pro Worlds venue that the Pro women can not be given the same opportunities as our male counterparts. I find it somewhat disheartening that our opinion isn't more valued in our own division. I get it- if we want it all equal go to USDGC then it's a one division world. Part of the challenge of being a women golfer is comparing scores to the "Big Boys" that can't be done unless the playing field is level. I know all the women are playing the same courses &amp; the same tees, but it is still quite a slap in the face to not be allowed to have the same level of competition as the men. I also know there are women that don't feel like this &amp; I agree with Courtney - keep playing Ams until you are ready.

Markus K�llstr�m just deuced hole#14 on Granite Ridge which at 500 ft. long and a severe dogleg right has been playing as a pro par four. This guy is just unreal. :cool:



****, when the guy who's just been watching Nate and Cale shot all day calls you unreal ... then you are a freaking stud!!!!!

I'm not sure if this is the same guy but I caught the worlds in Flagstaff a few years back and there was a Swedish player there that was pulling off shots I've never seen before.

as with any championship You can not make everyone happy it will almost always be a 50 50 split. but good luck to all the ladies and the rest of everyone playing for a PRO WORLDS TITLE

Looks like we got our first Blueberry Hill ace: someone in Robert Leonard's group aced hole#3.

So Nate is -10 through 15 holes. Pretty frigg'n sick.

Nate looks like he's playing out of his mind...En Fuego

could be a great round rating if he continues. Especially if the next best is -6, ie. Rico and Cale.

oates 12 down that could be the hottest round of worlds