I live in Athens, North of Atlanta. I got gas this morning for $3.89 and have not seen a station without gas thus far. Our mayor is trying to have the UGA vs. Alabama game cancelled on fears that the 200,000+ converging on Athens will eat up all the supplies. I guess he doesn't care about the revenue that those people will bring in. Personally, I'm getting out of there. I hate UGA, especially on game day.

$4.71 here at the beach about 3 hours east of Charlotte and no problem finding gas at all. but ours comes from the port and not the pipe line.



BWD, Get yourself a Cool Vanilla Hemi, and you can cut that time in 1/2...LOL. Gas here in the Heart of Carolina is plentiful around 3.85 :D

I hate it when that happens!

Will there be live coverage, and up to date scores of those trying to qualify?

the usually are thanks to CDGC but things may be changing this year since i'm seeing that its 'brought to you by discnation' and they have a link to their page

at the very least i'm sure there will be msg board updates and since I can't be down there to help this year maybe will help the guys w/ keeping a spreadsheet up to date online. If we have charlotte guys down there i'm sure there will be coverage!

The Charlotte guys rule! They will be there making updates. Check that sweet website... usdgc.com

Want to give a shout out to Mike Norris, aka. Mike-ro-dot for setting us up with the mobile caddybook! Best viewed on the iPhone. Due to him, we will also bring you the dots via iPhone.

I will provide a link soon.

i only think it has been said maybe 10,000 times but it does bare repeating. Mike Norris is the man! Kevin you are doing an unreal job as well. DOTS are awesome!

Thanks Dave.

Man, I wish I could be sitting around next week watching Dots at work like so many folks will be doing. Ah, well. I guess being there helps make up for that a bit, though.

See you knuckleheads this w/e.

Joe

can't wait to get to rock hill tomorrow. need to stop by and see my boy willie. he's still in jail so i need to swing by and say what's up :D

Come on down and watch the dots live! Or on the 'net! Or on your iPhone!

can't wait to get to rock hill tomorrow. need to srop by and see my boy willie. he still in jail so i need to swing by and say what's up :D



What's that all abut

: ) :

he can't get uht (pronounced out like i am from canada) cause he can't afford bail.

He is just sitting in jail listening to your ipod huh

BWD, tell -em Hi from all of us, we miss him. I have a special Firebird with his name on it. Uhh, bendover, Mini Thumber on the pad...LOL :cool:

I wanted to share two updates. First, we've uploaded the USDGC Rules Q & A for those who are interested to know how certain potential situations will be ruled upon next week. The details can be found at http://www.usdgc.com/competitors and then click on 2008 Course Rules.

Second, thanks to a generous sponsorship from DGA, we are able to make the final day even more exciting. We will have a giant ring of fire Saturday afternoon after the toss across the lake. Everyone around the Clubhouse, players and fans alike, will have a chance to win a sweet DGA portable target. We are still finalizing the logistics, but this should be a lot of fun. Bring your disc for a chance on Saturday afternoon. Thanks DGA.

Take care,
Harold

Thanks Harold

I'm certain I saw Ryder Cup players taking some practice putts after a hole was conceded.



Correct. Practicing is all in match play after a hole is won / conceeded / lost.

Also, the Ryder Cup is not a PGA event. That is why there was a PGA event this weekend during the Ryder Cup.



The Ryder Cup is a property of and administered by the PGA of America. It's not a PGA Tour event.

Mobile Caddy Book (http://www.usdgc.com/mobilecaddybook/)

harold... im sure they're already printed but if the spectators discs are putters it could work out great for that ring of fire!

course is looking purdy ... purdy tough! im liking it but i've heard grumblings from quite a few...
-ob string is inside the cypress trees on 4
-8's OB on the right is very tight on the right side
-888 playing buncr is going to be interesting
-17's green has changed shape a good little bit and will be interesting with people having to get it in to move on.
-18 OB on right is moved waaay left and playing really tight.

do you have to be a pdga member to qualify on monday?

course is looking purdy ... purdy tough! im liking it but i've heard grumblings from quite a few...
-ob string is inside the cypress trees on 4


Interesting decision. Playing it last year, having the line on the outside made it worth it to go for the keyhole because getting caught up in the pines would leave you with a putt from inside, barring a bad roll-back. Being someone that chose to go over the top (playing the spectator round) on his second shot, I approve of this alteration. :)

Spectator Rocs?!? Does anyone have any info on what is being sold? Plastic? Mold?

Also, I know they have been sold on Saturday in the past, is that true this year also? Time?

Can't wait to watch the dots!!!

Thanks Mike!!!

do you have to be a pdga member to qualify on monday?


no but should you qualify and want to play in the tourney you'd have to join the PDGA

17's green has changed shape a good little bit and will be interesting with people having to get it in to move on.


That was true last year but you also got an added OB penalty. With buncr, at least there's less pain for missing. The lay-up area is still there in front of the tee.

I do agree the rope on the right side of 18 is awful tight considering the already challenging slope of the landing area. Righties might need a good forehand off the tee. Or, the best strategy might be to crush a roller as far as possible so if you do go OB, it's far enough down the fairway that laying up on the next shot for a drop-in isn't as difficult and still get a good chance at a par 4.

good calls on both accounts Chuck... playing dubs today we put our drive in on 17 and deuced... the guys we were playing with didnt get it in until the 4th try... made the putt and only took a 5. makes the hole a lot less punitive.

18 was just a (righty) sidearm then hyzer to the basket... those that tried to throw backhand (righty) had a lot catch an edge and roll OB left... def. more than a few bust out some crazy long rollers and if they went out they went out.

Monday qualifiers will be interesting this year... thinking 67/68 may be the cutt

Groupings and tee times posted anywhere?

nowhere i've seen yet...

Congratulations to Burro (Bill Jacobson) for the Golden Rake award (co-winner)!!! Very deserving after all of his years of service to this tourney and DG in general!!!

Might be taking longer than expected to explain buncrs... :D

Groupings and tee times posted anywhere?



It's my understanding that they never posted the tee times online until after the players' meeting. That being said, the players' meeting is certainly over by now. Would be cool to know, but I can wait until tomorrow morning.

Chap

Everyone is out throwing hole #3... The Twisted Flyer USDGC $10,000.00 Hole In One!!! :D

2:00 PM Jared Pennington Rod Baca Michael Sullivan Chris Howard
1:52 PM Evan Brummet Birgitta Lagerholm Jeb Bryant Bob Graham
1:44 PM Jussi Lindberg David Greenwell Kelly Watson Steve Brinster
1:36 PM Eddie McCulley Dean Pfeifer Brian Donahue McCoy Connor
1:28 PM Justin Kreutzer Ian Liddell Patrick Blazek George R. Smith
1:20 PM Kyle Crabtree Riley Brenner Jim Oates John Hart
1:12 PM Geoff Bennett Rivers Sherrod Ville Piippo Dan Ginnelly
1:04 PM Randal Reisner Kyle Enman Cris Hicks Scott A. Reek
12:56 PM Bill Themm Garrett Gurthie Espen M�kkelgjerd Pete Johnson
12:48 PM Hunter Hakanson Martin Bohn Kyle Pinkman Josh Gerth
12:40 PM Mike Leslie Torbj�rn Degerstr�m Juho Rantalaiho John Terlap
12:32 PM Jeff Fiedler Dana Vicich Christopher Smith Jason Light
12:24 PM Steven Rico Tom Embree Paul Ulibarri Randy Saab
12:16 PM Nathan Sexton Anders Kallstrom Michael Johansen Jaime Cosseboom
12:08 PM Craig Myrick Darrell Daugherty Markus K�llstr�m Kari Vesala
12:00 PM Ken Climo Jeremy Koling Rory Self Arturo Villarreal
11:52 AM Will Schusterick David Feldberg Mike Hofmann David Hemmeline
11:44 AM Chris Claring Craig Leyva Dean Tannock Jonas Card
11:36 AM Mike Bachman JohnE McCray Stanley Pratt Jason Jalonen
11:28 AM John Child Matt Orum Brad Hammock Toni Asikainen
11:20 AM Joe Rotan Nick Schneider Eric McCabe Ken Franks
11:12 AM Cory Sharp Josh Anthon Nathan Krahn Barry Schultz
11:04 AM Pete May Angela Tschiggfrie Avery Jenkins Matt Peckham
10:56 AM Craig Gangloff Daemon Stahlin Nathan Doss Brian Schweberger
10:48 AM Pete Cashen Mitch Sonderfan Corey Wisenburg Kevin Dowd
10:40 AM Yasushi Jitsuhiro Jay Matthes Gaige McNutt Shane Peters
10:32 AM Brian McRee James Hagen Gregg Hosfeld Tim Skellenger
10:24 AM John G. Simpson Jr Jim Trueblood Cale Leiviska Gregg Barsby
10:16 AM Kevin McCoy Shasta Criss Nathan Martin Michael Olse
10:08 AM Joe Mela John Nolte Kris Orrick Sam Ferrans
10:00 AM Mike Milne Keith Amerson Dave Dunipace Manabu Kajiyama
9:52 AM Jim Myers Tyler Horne Derek Robins Kazuo Shirai
9:44 AM Tim Barr Chris Sprague Scott Rief Timmy Gill
9:36 AM Terry Roddy Jeff Bryk Tyler Christensen Harold Duvall
9:28 AM Jay Reading Paul McBeth Jesse Heinonen Sam Nicholson
9:20 AM Matthew Blakely Jonathan Betts Robert Buzasy Kim Scott-wood
9:12 AM Jalle Stoor Timothy E. Walsh Will Timmons Nick Peters
9:04 AM Robbie Bratten David Wiggins Jr Jussi Meresmaa Rick Voakes
8:56 AM Philo Brathwaite Justin Bunnell Teresa Bellinger Anders Haugen
8:48 AM Valarie Jenkins Nikko Locastro Ernie Small Nils Lindqvist
8:40 AM Christian Dietrich Kevin Babbit Karl Nybo Lavone Wolfe
8:32 AM Jeff Layland Imran Khan Bruce Knisley Vinnie Miller
8:24 AM Stan McDaniel Linus �str�m Michael Williams Matt LaCourte Jr
8:16 AM Adam Olsen Coda Hatfield Eric Roadhouse Al Schack
8:08 AM Jonathan Baldwin Dan Sisk Dixon Jowers Andrew McGettigan
8:00 AM Sam Castiglione Brian Henry Tanner Duncan Peter Wyngaard
7:52 AM Brad Schick Juho Parviainen Larry Bledsoe Extra Spot1
7:44 AM Jerry Gotcher Devan Owens Buddy Tritt Extra Spot2
Round 1 - Wednesday Oct. 1, 2008
U S D G C T E E T I M E S

Rockin, by the time I wake up I should know what Schicky shot! OH IO! Tear it up Shick, Blakely, Horne, Gaige!

Good luck to all competitors, especially KO and Shoestring!

OK Bagger's, where will we be able to get the most up to date scores, throughout the day?

Who know's?

Good luck to the Charlotte Disc Golf Club guys (CDGC)

Buddy @ 7:44
Stan @ 8:24
Wiggins @ 9:04
Sam @ 9:28
Peckham @ 11:04 (w/ Avery Jenkins)
Jonas @ 11:44 (from the 'other' CDGC ;)
Jeremy @ 12:00 (w/ Climo)
MJ @ 12:16
Howie @ 2:00

scores?

bit too early for that Juff... or are you talking about where to find them? good question on that one.

btw... anyone know what they got in the players packs this year? there's a photo on the usdgc twitter site but it doesn't show much.

http://twitter.com/usdgclive

Usually, the scores after the first 6 holes get posted if they have scoring in the field this year? First groups should be getting to hole 7 around now especially since they're threesomes.

Everyone is out throwing hole #3... The Twisted Flyer USDGC $10,000.00 Hole In One!!! :D



wow
lets see a big money ace

9:04 AM Robbie Bratten David Wiggins Jr Jussi Meresmaa Rick Voakes
check out the age seperation in that group between Dr. Rick and Jr.

9:04 AM Robbie Bratten David Wiggins Jr Jussi Meresmaa Rick Voakes
check out the age seperation in that group between Dr. Rick and Jr.



wow! that's huge

1st scores are up... devan -4 through 6

http://discgolfunited.com/leaderboard/round.cfm?thisLayout=YES&round=1

Hole 4 has its first victim...

http://discgolfunited.com/leaderboard/round.cfm?thisLayout=YES&round=1



SWEET! Thank you!

thanks for the link Kevin!

Stan's card should be coming thru soon

a 12 on 4?!... wow! (dont know that guy but he needs to learn a thumber! ;)

If he was "tin cupping" on 4, wait 'til he gets to the buncr holes... :eek:

not a good start for the Mule

4 seems to be playing tougher for nearly everybody so far

not @ all BS...

and as far as tin cupping on 4... if it was a 'buncr' or hazard then he prob would've 'only' had something like a 7

def does change strategy on some holes though... it will change people on 10 and 888

in dubs we were tied with the guys playing on our card... my partner throws on 17 and doesnt make it in... i throw and make it in... the other team proceeds to throw a combined 6 or 7 shots before they get one in and still are able to card a 5 instead of an 8 or whatever it would've been

my 1st drive was money... those bales are 2 high

I've got the hole stats from last year so we'll be able to compare how the revised holes play this year. But I don't think hole 4 has changed other than some foliage growth. I think Feldberg still feels that hole is the least fair of the 18. I didn't have much trouble playing out to the left off the tee. Then shooting a backhand under the tree limbs to the front of the Leyland mouth. Flopped a 50 footer to the pin and dropped it in for 4. Not saying I could repeat that for 4 rounds under tournament conditions. But it makes you wonder how you get scores more than 7 even if you miss that second shot to the mouth and get penalized once. Now if you keep trying to go over the top...

LOL dang bales! ;)

OB line is inside the cedars, there is preTTy much no gap underneath or between. you have to go over the top.

heard the rope is on the inside of trees this year

I've got the hole stats from last year so we'll be able to compare how the revised holes play this year. But I don't think hole 4 has changed other than some foliage growth. I think Feldberg still feels that hole is the least fair of the 18. I didn't have much trouble playing out to the left off the tee. Then shooting a backhand under the tree limbs to the front of the Leyland mouth. Flopped a 50 footer to the pin and dropped it in for 4. Not saying I could repeat that for 4 rounds under tournament conditions. But it makes you wonder how you get scores more than 7 even if you miss that second shot to the mouth and get penalized once. Now if you keep trying to go over the top...



i think the big change is the one that doesnt show on the caddie book that Harold made on Wed/Thurs of last week... he moved the rope/OB to the inside front of the cypress trees! This closed up some of the shots you're talking about and made the overhand shot more attractive. Now if you throw over the top and roll back you have bricks/blocks stopping you inside the cypress for an easy putt instead of having to be inside the trees

heard from more than a few of the top pros that didnt like the change... especially since it wasn't in the caddie book and it was very last minute.

So is Brad Schick's card in the Bermuda Triangle or something? Or in addition to not being able to take pics of rival company sponsored players unless you pay a fee, do we need to pay a fee to see Brad's score?

come on D stay on the top of that leader board

I thought I read on hole 4 that they moved the OB lines inside the trees? or is that wrong?

tanner duncan -5 through 12. no boges.

Still haven't gotten the sort order programing figured out for Over/Under par after several years now. This happens every year where results aren't sorted and displayed by current total Over/Under par on the Overall scores page and the individual round pages.

It shouldn't be that hard to sort on over/under par.

If you're looking to get a USDGC Roc fix today, check out the latest video, "USDGC Roc: A Brief History," at the Roc museum:
<BLOCKQUOTE>
SeeRocCity.com (http://seeroccity.com)
</BLOCKQUOTE>
It's only 30 seconds so if you time it right, you won't even miss any live scoring! ;-)

While you're there, take the 2-minute tour of 1,000+ Rocs.

and were still wondering why one of the groups has disappeared and why the 3rd group has gotten to the 2nd scoring station 1st?

is the road OB on hole 5? just wondering how mny discs the guy who made an 11 put into the water

and were still wondering why one of the groups has disappeared and why the 3rd group has gotten to the 2nd scoring station 1st?



not really an answer but a reply... it happens ;)

seriously though... it has happened last year a bit... not sure why but scores weren't always updated in order and some took a while to get up altogether. I think some cards didnt get updated due to possible scoring issues that had to be sorted out by the TD @ the end before they put scores on live scoring (but it seemed like they only kept the 1 guys score off if that happened... not the whole cards)... who knows?


is the road OB on hole 5? just wondering how mny discs the guy who made an 11 put into the water



yup... and that guy is 896 rated

yes, the road is OB.

when i got a 10 it only took 3 dunks.

thanks for the link Kevin!

Stan's card should be coming thru soon

a 12 on 4?!... wow! (dont know that guy but he needs to learn a thumber! ;)



That's the guy that won the Golden Ticket.

Brad's card teed at 7:52, they should be about done almost. If you know Brad, he plays a little on the speedy side compound that as being in a threesome it equals almost done I'm sure.

I'm guessing hole 14 or 15 by now.

lil wigg -1 through 6

was wondering the same thing, where are the first couple cards?

wow... roughest start i think i've ever seen for anyone... especially for someone rated 974... Timmons @ 29 over after 6!!!!

1 - quadruple bogie 7
2 - quad bogie 8
3 - 'dont know what you call a 6x bogie' 9
4 - 'dont know what you call a 5x bogie' 9
5 - quad bogie 9
6 - 6x bogie 9

thinking he just didnt show and got par +4 on the first 2 and they just put 9s on the card from there on

Yeah, something must be happening with Timmons. 9's on #3-6? How's it even possible to get a 9 on hole 6 unless you're throwing it in the water on purpose? Did he get hurt or leave?

Keep it up Lil Wig!

I hope there was an error entering those scores, but Willy BT has had back problems in the past.

That Dixon Jowers guy is good. No bogeys through 12. Keep it up Dixon.

I am not a jinx
I am not a jinx
I am not a jinx
Knock on wood

wow... roughest start i think i've ever seen for anyone... especially for someone rated 974... Timmons @ 29 over after 6!!!!

1 - quadruple bogie 7
2 - quad bogie 8
3 - 'dont know what you call a 6x bogie' 9
4 - 'dont know what you call a 5x bogie' 9
5 - quad bogie 9
6 - 6x bogie 9

thinking he just didnt show and got par +4 on the first 2 and they just put 9s on the card from there on




Sextuple and quintuple for 6 and 5 respectively.

great rebound by AL after the rough sTarT

First eagles on the course: hole #12, courtesy of both Dixon Jowers and Adam Olsen! Nice shooting, fellas! 901' in 3? Wicked!

Schick is already in with a 60.

www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7279#Open (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7279#Open)

Nice shooting, fellas! 901' in 3?


First half is downhill but still it's a great par 5 hole to try for the eagle.

d owens in with a 63

Bermuda Triangle? Black hole? Different dimension? Brad is LOST IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCEEEEEE!

nice!

Bermuda Triangle? Black hole? Different dimension? Brad is LOST IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCEEEEEE!



the people doing the scoring must have gotten to sleep in longer than the first couple cards.

The first card has at least 4 or 5 holes recorded.......

maybe brad just plays too fast for them to keep updating

is the road OB on hole 5? just wondering how mny discs the guy who made an 11 put into the water



Not sure how many he put in the water. He is one of my homies and I know his game. He's a lefty and very short off the tee. I'd say 300 max, maybe a little less. No way he could clear the water and go for the green. Pretty sure he just slowly worked his way around.

Looks like the Unofficial Ratings aren't working on the PDGA display. I wasn't able to change the par to 68 either. I ran the numbers offline on the first six scores and the SSA came in at 65 with 7 rating points per throw. Schick's 60 is currently at 1034. Last year in the second round the SSA was just under 68.

The last 12 holes sure handed it to Devan. He was -4 after 6 and still turned in a 63 (-5)?

I feel for him. That gold course isn't easy even without the ropes.

With them, it's a beast.

good edit.

HD witha Salad E through 6

The last 12 holes sure handed it to Devan. He was -4 after 6 and still turned in a 63 (-5)?

I feel for him. That gold course isn't easy even without the ropes.

With them, it's a beast.



i am pretty sure a 63 is -5 not +9
pretty solid round for the guy first time to rockhill

that was a quick edit

I noticed the par wasn't right while I was clicking submit. Still, he looked to be on a run there with 4 birdies and no bogies on the front 6.

I'm interested to see how Nikko's round played out.

SSA now just under 66 with Brad at 1039.

good edit.

HD witha Salad E through 6



Thanks. And Harold should do well out there. His game's solid and safe, and he knows the course well enough... :cool:

Looks like buncrs on hole 10 haven't hurt too many so far with all of those birdie 3s.

Brad in with a 60, 1 bogey.

Brad in with a 60, 1 bogey.



Any eagles for Brad?

Harold will probably hear about hole 4 from Dave D with his chilly snowman.

They really need to get the leaderboard updated with the third scoring station info for those who've finished their round. Any idea what the holdup is? I want to see where Schwebby, Barry, Nate and Avery are. I know they aren't all through 6 holes yet, but we need some INFO! It's not like we can watch it on TV or catch it on the radio...

I could always drive down there... nah, the boss wouldn't like that. I guess it's just frustrating to be 20 min. away and not be able to be THERE.

5 min until the Champ's group tees...

Brad in with a 60, 1 bogey.



On hole 3.... he must've went hard at the 10,000 dollar bounty..... :D

I guess it's just frustrating to be 20 min. away and not be able to be THERE.

i am 15 hours or so away and i want to get down there myself

Looks like they got the par fixed on the PDGA scores but that created a new problem...

Looks like they got the par fixed on the PDGA scores but that created a new problem...



i guess you could say that +6347...

nothing BIG on 888 so far, just a couple boges

par is fixed... good job guys

Yeah, what a pain dealing with hackers messing things up for Theo and Gentry to fix while the USDGC is happening.

Measure twice cut once.How do you not know what the par is the day of the event..... :confused:Less rope more range finder..

Chuck... you coming down @ all this year?

The par had always been 68 but the hackers prevented setting it properly in the score display until now. Now, hole 11 always seems to play like a par 5 instead of 4 so we'll see.

I was there on Friday, Sep 19 after the Summit meetings and played Winny with Harold. That's it for visits this year probably.

I'd place my suspect on someone who is on probation or has been suspended!

Do they have the radio show going on this year? If so, how do I get there?

everything must be going Nikko's way right now.

Do we need to start talking about course par on this thread just like the worlds thread?

Locastro is -9 after 12... Kid's pretty good.

Do we need to start talking about course par on this thread just like the worlds thread?


Looks like course par could be right on but perhaps some holes could go up or down. I think a score under 56 will be possible this year considering Kenny barely missed last year.

I wish I was there. I'm a day behind. Leaving out this afternoon and will be on the Gold Course with the morning dew. Any predictions yet? I think this is Schwebby or Avery's year. Do work son.

Chuck, if it was right, there would be no up, or down...This is a lack of attention ,to detail... :(

Do we need to start talking about course par on this thread just like the worlds thread?


Looks like course par could be right on but perhaps some holes could go up or down. I think a score under 56 will be possible this year considering Kenny barely missed last year.



i dont necessarily think thats the case... if i'm right it seems like the buncr rule almost penalizes the best players but helps the lower level players and its more of something that levels the playing field (kinda like 'tiger proofing' holes in ball golf).

that being said it seems it wouldn't help someone like Kenny who is going to tend to keep it in the ropes anyway and will actually hurt him to the extent that those that usually have a hard time keeping it in wont be penalized quite as much (depending on the situation).

from talking with Kenny/Barry/Feldberg and a few others after they saw the changes they all seemed to think a hot round like Kenny had last year would be even harder to get this year

everything must be going Nikko's way right now.





Apparently something is going right on Day 1 for him

-9 after 12 for McBeth, as well. With 2 bogeys!

-9 after 12 for McBeth, as well. With 2 bogeys!



And no pars...

peckham off to a solid start

Matt Peckham -3 after 6

-9 after 12 for McBeth, as well. With 2 bogeys!



Yea that eagle really helped.

Scores (http://discgolfunited.com/leaderboard/round.cfm?thisLayout=YES&round=1)

WESTSIDE it is a kids game.... ;)

Chuck, if it was right, there would be no up, or down...This is a lack of attention ,to detail...



Depends on whose 'right' we're talking about. As a TD, Harold's version of par is right by default. In the case where a hole plays one throw tougher due to wind and OB, that doesn't make the par wrong. My comments have more to do with scoring averages on some holes that might end up quite a bit higher or lower than Harold's par such that others might prefer another par value, that is if they were TD.

WESTSIDE it is a kids game.... ;)



I don't even know what that means... :confused:

that is usually what happens when Reese posts !!! :D/msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

I'll be right back, gonna take my new disc out for a spin.....

Burn!
Or, as he might put it:

"for you heat is to shame always"

couple of -8s now

Latest set of complete scores produce a 68.6 SSA with a 60 currently worth 1051.

It is on the left side of a compass ..The long state with big arms.The sunny state ,where smoking is not a crime, it is a medicatation.... ;)

Hippies better take a break from this site and get their Hampton request in

Who do you think will post the first bogey-free round?

It is on the left side of a compass ..The long state with big arms.The sunny state ,where smoking is not a crime, it is a medicatation.... ;)



Dude, you're just making my point for me...

Evidently someone is smoking at this exact moment. Sorry to harsh your mellow, Reese...

Sorry Stack. (Clean your inbox). Phish Reunion

shh... dont tell but the DOTS will be making a trial run @ 1:52 today

check it out here... http://www.usdgclive.com/index2.html#

Stack, don't make us block your twitter account. Don't agitate the dots.

haha... sorry Kevin ... didnt know it was a secret

and Wigg just finished @ 70

and another -8 just came in (by someone I've never heard of... Robert Buzasy)

gotta go... the dots internal code keeper squad just knocked on my door... this can't be good!!! :(

Well, you want to make sure the site can handle a moderate load, right? I already had the USDGC Live page open...

thats because hes a sweeede

looks like brad set the standard, lets see if the 8s can hold up

And who's responsible for the Kilroy dot hiding at the top? Click it! Funny stuff!

And who's responsible for the Kilroy dot hiding at the top? Click it! Funny stuff!



NO!... don't click it!!! thats what started it all for me. Oh I've already said too much! I think its MicroDot and it totally freaks me out man!

Calie vaporizes.No smoke here... :cool:

Reese, just a few more words and it would have been a haiku...

BigJerm, Schweb, Tank, 1f2ns, Barry all @ -1 after 6
Champ sitting -3 after 6

and Wigg just finished @ 70


Congrats lil Wigg, Solid Start!

BigJerm, Schweb, Tank, 1f2ns, Barry all @ -1 after 6
Champ sitting -3 after 6


Only 6 holes played in 3 hours! Sweet
Now tell us where they really stand

I cant wait to get haiku :D:D

the last 6 holes must be playing tough, a lot of people who had good looking scores after 12 didn't finish so hot

BigJerm, Schweb, Tank, 1f2ns, Barry all @ -1 after 6
Champ sitting -3 after 6


Only 6 holes played in 3 hours! Sweet
Now tell us where they really stand



can't Chad... the Dots will get me again... they already busted my left hand and broke my mouse so I can't right click anymore

you know as much as I do until the PDGA results go up

Any predictions yet? I think this is... ...Avery's year.



ditto

going ok so far?

Thru 56 players, SSA standing at 68.0 with a 60 worth 1049.

sure... whats the backup on 3 from? from 5,4 spilling back and/or people not being able to get in bounds off the tee on 3?

when the Dots go by hole 4 can they report how the player practice putting area is going... curious to see if its getting used and what people think

Wow, Kallstrom is 16 throws off the lead after the first 6 holes! Tough start.

The dot notes on twitter work real good if you have a client on your machine. Twitterific works good.

WOTS Schweb -4 after 14

J-Bird with first ACE. Wow basket must've stopped it from going into the water.

Here's data so far for 37 players normalized to a 1000 rating compared to numbers normalized to a 1000 rating from last year. Holes appear to be playing 2.5 shots tougher - notably 4, 5, 9 and 18.
<table> <tr> <td>Hole</td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>6</td><td>7</td><td>8</td><td>9</td><td>10</td><td>11</td><td>12</td><td>13</td><td>14</td><td>15</td><td>16</td><td>17</td><td>18</td><td>Total </td></tr> <tr> <td>Par</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>4</td><td>4</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>5</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>68 </td></tr> <tr> <td>Avg 2008</td><td>2.7</td><td>4.0</td><td>2.9</td><td>4.6</td><td>5.5</td><td>2.9</td><td>2.4</td><td>4.0</td><td>4.5</td><td>3.6</td><td>4.5</td><td>4.4</td><td>5.3</td><td>2.9</td><td>4.0</td><td>3.2</td><td>3.4</td><td>4.6</td><td>69.5 </td></tr> <tr> <td>Avg 2007</td><td>2.5</td><td>3.8</td><td>3.0</td><td>4.1</td><td>5.0</td><td>2.7</td><td>2.6</td><td>3.8</td><td>3.9</td><td>3.8</td><td>4.7</td><td>4.5</td><td>5.3</td><td>3.1</td><td>3.8</td><td>3.1</td><td>3.3</td><td>4.0</td><td>67.0 </td></tr> </table>

J-Bird with first ACE. Wow basket must've stopped it from going into the water.


Getting 6 is one super SICK Ace! That drive was probably the result of getting rid of a little bit of frustration after 4 &amp; 5.

Where did you get that info from? I looked on the USDGC site and it had no mention of an ace. #6, that's freaking awesome.

$950 bones, assuming everybody paid in. What about the bounty on 10. If no one hits it, will it be up for spectator day?

the info is from checking out his hole by hole on
http://discgolfunited.com/leaderboard/round.cfm?thisLayout=YES&round=1

and what bounty on 10?

Where did you get that info from? I looked on the USDGC site and it had no mention of an ace. #6, that's freaking awesome.


His 1 shows up on the USDGC live scoring page.

Sorry, I meant 3. I had $10,000 in my brain.

gotcha... and i doubt they'd let it ride for spectator day... unless they had someone posted @ the tee theres nothing to keep people from throwing multiple shots... not to mention theres no real penalty for going long on spectator day (and this is most likely put up via an insurance policy that would only insure it for the actual tourney)... although it would be cool if it was available... i'd love to give it a go (came close a couple times @ US Dubs... 1 during warm ups and had one get a little cabbage and go at the basket during the round)

hows the wind out there (if anybody in the know gets on here)?

I know its always windy there, but curious if its more than usual, or about the norm, maybe a guesstimate wind speed?

and for more curiousty, what kind of winds are the tougher holes facing like 5, 13, and 17?

With 80 players in, the SSA is back up to 68.7 with a 60 worth 1052.

McCabe and Asikainen both bogey free thru 12.

Barry is also bogey free thru 12

Barry's in at 61 which means he played the last 6 holes at par. We'll soon see if he parred all of them...

After 108 players posted, the SSA is now 69 with a 60 worth 1053.

I wonder if Markus was putting or threw it in from the fairway for that eagle 2 on 10?

Looks like unofficial round ratings are now showing on PDGA scores.

Asikainen only one showing that's bogey free thru 12. McCabe and Barry finished with a few bogeys.

The DOTS are kinda cool. When is this gonna bee on ESPN? It'd make things easier....

just about to ask the same thing. guessing jump puTT.

64... good sTarT by TThe Pro

Why'd the DOTS stop?

j-bird with another eagle, only one so far with 2 on the round

Have to specify which J-Bird since the original J-Bird Matthes is also playing. :cool:

Rico -6 and Ulibarri -4 are also bogey free through 12!

I vote that the play-by-play twitter feed needs to show up in the dots window.

Second?

I will second that!

I only have two monitors and to have the caddy book open, live scoring, Twitter and Dots is too much.

Where are you finding the dots?

http://www.usdgclive.com/index2.html

They're done for today with the dots.

Looks like a bunch of the big guns shot solid rounds today. Feldberg has a bit of catching up to do. As most know though....palms get sweatier, the ropes look tighter, and nerves get frazzled the closer Sunday afternoon gets. There is a reason only 3 different players have won this thing before. Can't wait to see how it shakes out in the next few days. Hands down, best tourney in the universe!! Big props to all of the USDGC crew for the astronomical amount of work that goes into this event.

Here's the latest scoring comparison using the top 114 rated players who have finished today and exactly average 1000 rating compared to a similar 1000 rated pool last year. Buncrs appeared to have little impact to change things on 10, 13, 14 and 17 based on scoring averages. However, I'm next going to look at the scoring spreads and see if there were differences on those holes. Holes 2, 4, 8, 9, 15 and 18 incrementally tougher so far this year.

<table> <tr> <td>Hole</td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>6</td><td>7</td><td>8</td><td>9</td><td>10</td><td>11</td><td>12</td><td>13</td><td>14</td><td>15</td><td>16</td><td>17</td><td>18</td><td>Total </td></tr> <tr> <td>Par</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>4</td><td>4</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>5</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>68 </td></tr> <tr> <td>Avg 2008</td><td>2.7</td><td>4.2</td><td>2.9</td><td>4.5</td><td>5.2</td><td>2.9</td><td>2.5</td><td>4.1</td><td>4.2</td><td>3.9</td><td>4.5</td><td>4.5</td><td>5.4</td><td>3.0</td><td>4.1</td><td>3.2</td><td>3.3</td><td>4.5</td><td>69.7 </td></tr> <tr> <td>Avg 2007</td><td>2.5</td><td>3.8</td><td>3.0</td><td>4.1</td><td>5.0</td><td>2.7</td><td>2.6</td><td>3.8</td><td>3.9</td><td>3.8</td><td>4.7</td><td>4.5</td><td>5.3</td><td>3.1</td><td>3.8</td><td>3.1</td><td>3.3</td><td>4.0</td><td>67.0 </td></tr> </table>

I for one am encouraged to see fewer double-digit scores from elite players. I say the same thing every year, but something just seems intuitively wrong when the very best disc golfers in the world take scores of 11,12,13, etc. in a PDGA major event. The course design should not allow such, even if aggressiveness or even arrogance are the underlying reasons. With the exception of a 13 from Geoff Bennett on hole#9, and a 10 from Dixon Jowers on hole#13, so far I don't see 1000+ rated players taking exceedingly high hole scores.

Here are the scoring distributions for holes today by the first 114 players rated over 969 to complete the course. They average exactly 1000 so this is their SSA also:
<table> <tr> <td>Hole ></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>6</td><td>7</td><td>8</td><td>9</td><td>10</td><td>11</td><td>12</td><td>13</td><td>14</td><td>15</td><td>16</td><td>17</td><td>18</td><td>Total </td></tr> <tr> <td>Par ></td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>4</td><td>4</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>5</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>68 </td></tr> <tr> <td>Avg 2008</td><td>2.7</td><td>4.2</td><td>2.9</td><td>4.5</td><td>5.2</td><td>2.9</td><td>2.5</td><td>4.1</td><td>4.2</td><td>3.9</td><td>4.5</td><td>4.5</td><td>5.4</td><td>3.0</td><td>4.1</td><td>3.2</td><td>3.3</td><td>4.5</td><td>69.7 </td></tr> <tr> <td>Hole Score</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>2</td><td>38%</td><td>-</td><td>36%</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>21%</td><td>57%</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>1%</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>18%</td><td>-</td><td>18%</td><td>25%</td><td>-</td><td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>3</td><td>54%</td><td>18%</td><td>47%</td><td>18%</td><td>-</td><td>68%</td><td>39%</td><td>24%</td><td>35%</td><td>43%</td><td>19%</td><td>16%</td><td>-</td><td>68%</td><td>23%</td><td>54%</td><td>45%</td><td>18%</td><td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>4</td><td>7%</td><td>56%</td><td>10%</td><td>50%</td><td>16%</td><td>10%</td><td>4%</td><td>54%</td><td>36%</td><td>35%</td><td>39%</td><td>46%</td><td>25%</td><td>13%</td><td>54%</td><td>26%</td><td>18%</td><td>40%</td><td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>5</td><td>1%</td><td>18%</td><td>5%</td><td>18%</td><td>56%</td><td>1%</td><td>-</td><td>19%</td><td>18%</td><td>14%</td><td>26%</td><td>24%</td><td>41%</td><td>1%</td><td>19%</td><td>2%</td><td>8%</td><td>25%</td><td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>6</td><td>-</td><td>5%</td><td>-</td><td>5%</td><td>21%</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>1%</td><td>4%</td><td>5%</td><td>12%</td><td>11%</td><td>17%</td><td>-</td><td>4%</td><td>-</td><td>4%</td><td>14%</td><td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>7+</td><td>-</td><td>3%</td><td>2%</td><td>10%</td><td>7%</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>3%</td><td>7%</td><td>2%</td><td>4%</td><td>4%</td><td>18%</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>2%</td><td>3%</td><td> </td></tr> </table>

Tee Times: http://www.usdgc.com/files/thursday-tee-times.pdf

daemon beating big jerm, not really a suprise

daemon beating big jerm, not really a suprise

Great showing Dave Jr.!!!! Stay after 'em.

Golden ticket winner Andrew McGettigan holding his own at 106th place with a great +4 round!

I wonder if Markus was putting or threw it in from the fairway for that eagle 2 on 10?



He had maybe a 30' putt and made it. :) SICK drive. Talking with Double G, he had a 14' putt, but missed it :(

speaking of GG... he led the BIG D qualifiers w/ 680!!!! (throwing destroyers/wraiths)

Avery threw 660

a couple wegians i think are in as well as Bratten

shortest throw was 600 or 620 (i heard different stories on which was correct)

daemon beating big jerm, not really a suprise

Daemon??? Come on, Big Jerm takes the world Am title and you have the audacity to say that.... I bet by the end of the tourney he passes Daemon. Now that will be no big suprise to anyone in NC or the surrounding areas.

Golden ticket winner Andrew McGettigan holding his own at 106th place with a great +4 round!



Its ODD that the "Live Scoring" shows him at +25... :confused:

Daemon??? Come on, Big Jerm takes the world Am title and you have the audacity to say that.... I bet by the end of the tourney he passes Daemon. Now that will be no big suprise to anyone in NC or the surrounding areas.


Not really a ton of "audacity"... I mean, one of them won the Am World Championship, the other won the Am National Championship. They've never competed before, so its interesting to see.

Big Jerm only lives 30 minutes from the course so needless to say he has played the course a few times but never in the USDGC, however I will let the scores on the end of Saturday speak for themselves.

Big Jerm only lives 30 minutes from the course so needless to say he has played the course a few times but never in the USDGC, however I will let the scores on the end of Saturday speak for themselves.


Hopefully they can both pull off a cash spot. Wish I could be down there :(

audacity?? is that a personal attack?

i hope that winthrop doesn't have any more crazy suRprises for me tomorrow on my birthday. id be very suRprised if i shot any worse than i did today! maybe i'll play well and really suRprise myself. maybe i'll suRprise others! maybe not!! we'll see, either way - cant wait to get out there!

sorry if this has been posted elsewhere but I was trying to find an online although of the course. Couldn't find one on the USDGC website. Any suggestions?

Ross, you mean this?
www.usdgc.com/caddybook/caddy_book_final_web.pdf (http://www.usdgc.com/caddybook/caddy_book_final_web.pdf)

audacity?? is that a personal attack?


Yep, its indigenous Australian for Zaj is a loser.

Ross, you mean this?
www.usdgc.com/caddybook/caddy_book_final_web.pdf (http://www.usdgc.com/caddybook/caddy_book_final_web.pdf)



Nope. One that has pictures (rather then drawings) of the holes.

I heard someone aced hole 6, this true? I know there was one ace. Anyone know who and if it was hole 6?

Jason Light, Hole 6

daemon beating big jerm, not really a suprise

Jeremy,

HAPPY BIRTHDAY,

Now that those 1st USDGC round jitters are behind you, BRING IT ON.

David Jr says thanks for all the supportive comments both on the message board and on the course. All in all an OK 1st round, but 4 OB's between 16 and 17 didn't help.

I had a vision, LilBig Wigg, and the Towering inJERMo, moved up on day 2. Go get-em guy's. The Pro standing tall . Carolina in da house. :D

daemon beating big jerm, not really a suprise









feel free to pm me if you want to put something on the final standings.. any of you

I vote that the play-by-play twitter feed needs to show up in the dots window.

Second?



Use twitbin (a firefox plugin) and you will have your twitter feed next to the dots in one window.

audacity?? is that a personal attack?


Yep, its indigenous Australian for Zaj is a loser.



now that is a personal attack, i would report you if i wasn't on double secret probation

Anyone know why the mid-round scores haven't been posted on the USDGC website?

They are being posted. http://discgolfunited.com/leaderboard/round.cfm?thisLayout=YES&round=2

Does anyone know how Justin Kreutzer got the only eagle 3 on 888? Not to mention he also eagled 12 right before that. If he could of taken a par instead of the snowman he got on 10 he would be tied for the lead right now. Pretty decent for a 967 rated player don't ya think.

I don't really know the answer to your question, but that dude can crush - he has this short 3 step walk/run up, then boom 500'

his short game usually gives him trouble, which is the reason for his rating, but he seems to be putting it together... if he can keep it in bounds and keep it together, I look for his distance to really help him out

They are being posted. http://discgolfunited.com/leaderboard/round.cfm?thisLayout=YES&round=2



Thank you sir!

Hey guys, we've got a nice video up on our site that features an interview with Ken Climo and then his day one FRONT NINE. He shot a 4-under on the front to kick off his solid day one 6-under 62. There will be more video uploads and written coverage each day during the event. Beautiful weather down here!

nice video thanks for posting

I thought Jerm fired BJ in Asheville.

If he could of taken a par instead of the snowman he got on 10 he would be tied for the lead right now.


I wonder if he kept 'tin cupping' from the tee on hole 10? You almost have to drive into the buncr 4-5 times to get a snowman.

The Towering In Jerm O is on the move. Way to go Carolina..

Hey guys, we've got a nice video up on our site that features an interview with Ken Climo and then his day one FRONT NINE. He shot a 4-under on the front to kick off his solid day one 6-under 62. There will be more video uploads and written coverage each day during the event. Beautiful weather down here!



great video!

it's really great to see kansas city's own arturo villareal in the footage on kenny's card. it's arturo's 1st USDGC and to get to play w/ kenny was probably a huge treat for him.

Did anyone go bogey-free yesterday? I didn't see anyone without a blue square.

Rivers is through 12. I hope he keeps it up. Nice comeback from yesterday.

Hey guys, we've got a nice video up on our site that features an interview with Ken Climo and then his day one FRONT NINE. He shot a 4-under on the front to kick off his solid day one 6-under 62. There will be more video uploads and written coverage each day during the event. Beautiful weather down here!



very nice video :cool:

What was Lavone up to on hole 3? Yowza!

"commitment, then execution"
"players who can throw 350 accurately will do really well here"
"6 under par, not gonna kill ya"

yesterday there was a hole by hole score card on the usdgc site. is there one up for today? i can only see each hole by clicking on the player's name. thx

You're looking at the Overall Scores page. Click on the Round 2 All link on the top of that page or click here:
http://discgolfunited.com/leaderboard/round.cfm?thisLayout=YES&round=2

hole 4 continues to eat people's lunch - some big numbers are being taken by lots of players

if you can birdie this hole, you are gaining a lot of strokes on a lot of people - but I guess thats what makes it Winthrop Gold, being several other holes could do the same on any given round

Two questions - Are the dots up and running yet?

Can someone explain the buncr rule?

Thanks

Dots are starting at 2pm when the lead group tees off. And the dot notes via Twitter are now pulled into the page.

sweet thx C

Dots are starting at 2pm when the lead group tees off. And the dot notes via Twitter are now pulled into the page.



Awesome and awesome. Integration = great upgrade. Thanks.

Two questions - Are the dots up and running yet?

Can someone explain the buncr rule?

Thanks



Buncr rule:
Any Hole with Red OB lines instead of Yellow OB lines are buncr holes. They are 10, 13,14,& 17 shown in the 2008 caddy book. If you throw OB anywhere on that hole, you re-throw from the previous spot and only count the practice throw. No extra stroke penalty.

I.E. You throw you tee shot OB on hole 17, you then re-tee throwing your second shot not your third.

audacity?? is that a personal attack?


Yep, its indigenous Australian for Zaj is a loser.



now that is a personal attack, i would report you if i wasn't on double secret probation


Is not! It was a translation!


Daemon throwing up some decent numbers through 12, despite a couple of bogeys on 11/12.

Two questions - Are the dots up and running yet?

Can someone explain the buncr rule?

Thanks



Buncr rule:
Any Hole with Red OB lines instead of Yellow OB lines are buncr holes. They are 10, 13,14,& 17 shown in the 2008 caddy book. If you throw OB anywhere on that hole, you re-throw from the previous spot and only count the practice throw. No extra stroke penalty.

I.E. You throw you tee shot OB on hole 17, you then re-tee throwing your second shot not your third.



Thank you...

Its almost time for the dots... I can't wait to watch Schick live!
Woj you better be watching, I know your not from Columbus but he needs all the good vibes he can get!