Preparations for the 2006 USDGC are well under way. As we prepare for next week's Roc release, we also wanted to let folks know about the updated Qualifying Procedures. These can be viewed at http://www.usdgc.com/rulestoqualify.htm. These procedures are similar to last year's, except that we've instituted a tie-breaking procedure for qualifiers.

Thanks as always to the staff, competitors, volunteers, sponsors, hosts, partners, Rocers, and fans that make the USDGC special.

Take care,
Harold

That link is not working.

http://www.usdgc.com/rulestoqualify.htm

Try this one. I see Harold accidently put the period at the end of the link.

Rob -Thanks for posting the link correctly.

Take care,
Harold

Isn't having the Dogwood Crosstown as a qualifier at that time in the schedule a dis-incentive for players to make the West Coast swing of the tour? It's right in the middle of the Golden State/Master's Cup/Beaver State Fling swing.

Hey Rhett - One of the challenges with any schedule is to accomodate multiple priorities. My guess is that the quality of event the Kirk and RADL put on in Raleigh is such that most of the regional players would be in Raleigh that weekend whether the Crosstown was a qualifier or not.

This is certainly an issue we can review for 2007.

Take care,
Harold

You mean Josh. hehe

Isn't having the Dogwood Crosstown as a qualifier at that time in the schedule a dis-incentive for players to make the West Coast swing of the tour? It's right in the middle of the Golden State/Master's Cup/Beaver State Fling swing.



Oh no! We might screw the "Touring" players... all four of them! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Rhett,

Also, all three tournaments on that West Coast swing are also USDGC qualifiers. I don't think having the Dogwood as a qualifier is going to hurt the draw for the 3 west coast events.

Chap

Isn't having the Dogwood Crosstown as a qualifier at that time in the schedule a dis-incentive for players to make the West Coast swing of the tour? It's right in the middle of the Golden State/Master's Cup/Beaver State Fling swing.



Oh no! We might screw the "Touring" players... all four of them! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

That is 2 more than I thought there were.

Hey Rhett - One of the challenges with any schedule is to accomodate multiple priorities. My guess is that the quality of event the Kirk and RADL put on in Raleigh is such that most of the regional players would be in Raleigh that weekend whether the Crosstown was a qualifier or not.


Not complaining about the Crosstown tourney or anything. It's just that there is a lot of bang for the buck tournament-wise if an East-coaster wanted to travel West and take 10 or 16 days to get in 2 or all 3 of the big tourneys. Having any other qualifier right in the middle of that swing brings another thing into play for those that might be able to consider such a trip.

I am preTTy sure Feldberg is going to make it out for the Crosstown.

Rhett,

It is unfortunate but the schedule is difficult to juggle.

It really shouldn't be a problem. The Crosstown was a National Tour 2 years in a row and we only had 3 west coast players in 2004 and 2 in 2005.

Anyway, how have you been? Will I see you at Worlds or USDGC again this year?

Kirk

...and we only had 3 west coast players in 2004 and 2 in 2005.


Were there even two West coast players on tour in 2005? You probably attracted them specifically for just that tourney. :)

No USDGC for me this year, and it's not looking to be a Worlds year, either. :( We usually only do Worlds every other year, but since flagstaff was driving distance for a change we did the last two years in a row.

You going to the Memorial?

I will be at the Memorial.

We would like to thank USDGC Roc purchasers in advance for their sponsorship and support of the 2006 United States Disc Golf Championship.

USDGC Rocs go on sale today 12 noon et @ http://zonedriven.com/. Here a few things to remember when ordering:

*The maximum purchase is 50 Rocs. You can order 50 more on March 15th providing there are still Rocs left.
*We will be offering Express Checkout this year so an account will NOT be required.
*If you have your eye on a particular weight, color, stamp combo and are ordering online, you may want to get it in your cart and check out as quickly as possible. The longer you take to shop, the greater the risk of discs selling out before you can get them. Discs are not guaranteed until you have checked out. In other words, just putting them in your cart does not "hold" them.
*The Clear Roc auction has been extended to Wednesday March 15 5pm et. The current bid is $600.
*Visa, MasterCard, and American Express are accepted. Discover in not accepted.
*Pay Pal is not an option this year.
*Allow 2 weeks to receive your order.

Rocs are still being loaded in to the shopping cart at zonedriven.com. There will be a 10 or 15 minute delay. Thank you for your patience.

I got my 2, glo 176g and orange star 176g.

Whatever happened to ALL those black star rocs :confused: There were a ton, but I guess they'll be on e-bay soon, boooooooooooooo :mad:

I'm guessing that the partner's snatched them up.

When will the USDGC Website be ready for online Registration?

Hey Brian -

Good catch. I spoke to Jonathan and Steve, and they indicated that on-line registration should be good to go by the end of the week.

On another issue, there appears to be some confusion regarding two aspects of qualifying. First, only five folks can qualify at each event. If there is a tie for the last spot, the qualifying position goes to the player with the highest rating going into the event. Second, if the TD allows other divisions to be eligible, there are still only five spots available. For these tournaments, the spots would go to the five best scores in the eligible divisions who have not previously qualified. The qualifying document we've posted makes this second point unclear.

Take care,
Harold

After reviewing the results of the first three qualifiers, we have decided to amend the tie-break procedure. The tie for the last qualifying position can be decided by a playoff or by awarding the spot to the player with the highest rating. The choice will be at the discretion of each event TD.

The total number of players who qualify at each event will remain at five, and the results of the previous qualifiers will stand.

On behalf of the USDGC, I can say that we wish that we had made this decision at the beginning of the year. I apologize to those who have been impacted.

Take care,
Harold

thanks Harold

After reviewing the results of the first three qualifiers, we have decided to amend the tie-break procedure. The tie for the last qualifying position can be decided by a playoff or by awarding the spot to the player with the highest rating. The choice will be at the discretion of each event TD.

The total number of players who qualify at each event will remain at five, and the results of the previous qualifiers will stand.

On behalf of the USDGC, I can say that we wish that we had made this decision at the beginning of the year. I apologize to those who have been impacted.

Take care,
Harold



So basically you are now double screwing the guys from the Melbourne NT?? Seems a little unfair to me. Oh sorry guys, you tied for the last spot, but your rating says you suck so we're going to give it to just this guy. Oh wait, we screwed up, lets fix that, change it in the middle of the tour instead of waiting till next year, make it fair for the future NT's, but still not do anything about the ones that have already been played.

Why don't you just tell them to bend over and spread em??!!

Hi Harold, I was wondering is the registred players list updated, I signed up on zondedriven and they have charged my payment, but I am not on the list. Thanks.

Just wanted to keep the thread on the Front Page :D

Hey Aleksey -

We are in the process of revamping the website. The competitor registration sheet is not being updated until the new site is ready. Hoepfully it will be ready within a week. In the meantime, please know that you are good to go and registered for the 2006 USDGC.

Take care,
Harold

Thank You Harold, btw if you need some future work done on the website keep in mind the compnay I work for does that. Take care.
Aleksey

BOOBs.

you'll be in Sarasota 27th and 28th......... hmmmm??
forgot to ask last weekend.

also, we're thinking about a mid-summer Augusta practice trip. are you all in?

bump

does anyone know steve brinsters phone number?

i'm loaded with all sorts of phone numbers for steve brinster
(cell, home, thru lesli)....

email me at dan@brakewell.com or phone me at 888-914-9131 and i'll be happy to provide those numbers....

dan doyle
warwick, ny

Congrats to Nick Rutten who qualified for the USDGC by winning the Blue division at the US Mid-Nationals which included shooting the current course record for the Gold layout in the process (along with Eric Kuitunen and Jason Holmes).

Harold, any changes to the course this year?

Beuller.....Beuller....anyone.....Beuller

I want to get an invite...so I can give it down to the next able participant :) 3 years in a row was fun...guess I'll be missing this year even if I get in.

Booo

You fly me out there and pay for my weeks worth of work I'll miss (using all my extra time for MSDGC and WVO) and I'll cover the entrance fee and we got a deal, I'll see you there.

Any word on course changes or will it be similar. I am sure the O.B.'s will be brought in another 20 feet from every side though! :D

That's good, 18 needs to be a little thinner, as does 16...too easy otherwise :)

Harold, any changes to the course this year?

Harold, any changes to the course this year?





The only reason I got on the message board! The only tournament I can think about. The only course I'm thinking about. Is it going to be the same? what? no lattice on 13?

Does anyone know when the 2005 USDGC video is coming out?

Hey Brian - At this time, we do not anticipate any significant changes. Of course that could change depending on the plans of the university. We do have some modest pin placement changes planned for #7 and #10 (it will be extended further around the tennis court).

Tanner, I believe the lattice made #13 play much fairer. It will be reinstalled sometime in before the Championship.

Take care,
Harold

Thanks Harold. Looking forward to playing.

Hey Aleksey -

It pains me to say this. Due to a catostrophic technical failure suffered by the video producer, there are no plans to release the 2005 video. The digitized footage is preserved, but that it. It really is a shame because I think we we were on track to produce the best Championship video.

For now, the lead cam coverage is the only viewable documentation of the 2005 USDGC.

Sorry,
Harold

Who is producing next years video..?

Marshall Street hopefully

By my calculations, these are the USDGC Qualifiers from the Pro World Championships in Augusta, GA. Only the Open Mens division were eligible due to different courses played and one tee pad adjusted for the Open Women's division.

Congratulations and remember that you only have 30 days to register and may do so at www.USDGC.com (http://www.usdgc.com)

--Clester Hornsby IV
--Larry LaBond
--Brian McRee
--Jake Schagheck
--John Fowler

I was impressed with the caliber of talent demonstrated by the players at the 2006 PDGA Am Worlds.
I was also impressed with the character, attitude, and love for the sport displayed by the participants.
One player that particulary stood out was Ian Hovey, of Austin, Texas. I think what impressed me more than the quality of his play, was the respect and admiration that the people who know Ian have for him.

I did not know who Ian Hovey was before Am Worlds. I do now.

As far as I know (:confused:), I am the only player to have ever competed in the PDGA World/National Doubles Championship, the PDGA Amateur World Championship, the PDGA Professional World Championship, and the USDGC all in the same calendar year.

Ian Hovey is on the verge of becoming the second person to do it. One small problem- He hasn't qualified- yet...
I'm not sure if playing in the USDGC was, or is, a goal for Ian this year- or if it would fit into his parents plans- but, if it is, I want to help.

In 2003, I put up a $100.00 bounty for the next player to complete what has become known as the "Ash Quad". I'm going to spice it up a little for Ian this year. :o
If Ian qualifies in either of the 2 remaining qualifiers prior to the USDGC (Paw Paw, or Southern Nationals), I will reimburse him for the entry fee he paid for that tournament.
If Ian goes to Rock Hill to try to get in as a "Monday Qualifier", I will pay for up to three qualifiying rounds/attempts.
If Ian "gets in", registers, and plays in this years USDGC- no matter how it happens- he (or mom and dad ;)) will then earn the $100.00 bounty for completing the "Ash Quad".

DISCLAIMERS
The offer(s) listed above are invalid unless approved by the legal guardian(s) of Ian Hovey.
This is an unsolicited post that was written in isolation by a stranger to the Hovey family. My only personal connection to Ian Hovey, or his family, is that I was a spotter on Blackhawk Hole 10 at Am Worlds.

YEAH MC-REE

Top. This should be a popular thread!!??

congraTTs on your qualification... nice ace btw, "dammit"

Thanks Jeff! I wish that happened everytime I slipped on a teepad!

By my unofficial calculations I believe these to be the USDGC Qualifiers from this weekends qualifiers. See the rest of you on the Monday Qualifier :DDon't worry, there are plenty of Qualified Pros including myself that will volunteer to play your qualifiying round with you and push you to play better and get in there :)

West Virginia Open:
--Brian Skinner
--Ron Turner
--Jim Myers
--Mitch Sonderfan
--Bob Graham

Southern Nationals Championship:
--Tony Bass
--Joe Thacker
--Bryan Moore
--Rick Chriswell
--Shane Seal

USDGC Baby! (http://www.usdgc.com)

You and Des gonna make a NC swing again this year?

I know she wont be at Sneeky b/c of USWDGC, but what about you?

Hope to see ya at Sneeky or Charlotte or both!

Back in the Homeland of Iowa to rest, run some free Skills Clinics, open a few new courses, get EDGE into a couple of Iowa schools and giving a disc golf lecture at Western Illinois University :D
Some great things happening here! We will be out for The US Championship, can't wait!

Bard and I hope to bring a ZZ or two down to the Monday Qualifier....and the charlotte OPEN...I just wish we were playing the WEB, at least one round.

If you know you aren't going to go, I wonder if you can pass off your qualifier spot to the next person... I was thinking of Mitch. I know he didn't have plans to be here, but maybe he'll be on Team Crocs!

you are not allowed to pass your position off to anyone else...

also, bob graham is already in..he won the state rep spot for NJ earlier at the jersey jam...

so i believe the 5th qualifier from the WVO is Tyler Horne.

Got in to THE tournament and pumped about it..can't wait....

As of now it looks like I wont be aTTending this year. Was at the last 3 and hate to miss it but had to make some decisions about travel/work and decided the MSDGC/PAWPAW was in my better interest. We'll see, maybe Crocs will give me another week off without firing me...

Just a heads up to those planning to attend Monday Qualifying, we have extended the number of spots available from 5 to 8.

Changes to the qualifying process have reduced the field as we had hoped. Projected field size is currently 160.

First attempts are $50 as usual, additional attempts are $25. No pre-registration is required. Someone will be in the starter tent at hole 1 as early as 7:30am. Good luck!

I believe the wingate is all sold out for tournament week...Anyone have recemmendations of other good places to stay that are right there in that area? Thanks.

BIG CONGRATS to Pete Wyngaard for qualifying at the Michigan State Championships last weekend...finally. After close calls at 3 NT's, including a playoff with KSW at Brent Hambrick, he made it.

There's a Microtel right off Cherry Road. On that same street are a bunch of other lower priced hotels.

Best Western near Wingate, Comfort Suites possibly too. Not sure about that.

Microtel.....great choice....Me and the Wife have stayed there the last 4 years.

It is unfortunate but the schedule is difficult to juggle.

It really shouldn't be a problem. The Crosstown was a National Tour 2 years in a row and we only had 3 west coast players in 2004 and 2 in 2005.




And the Masters Cup hjas been a leading event for how many years?

From here, per usual, it would seem that USDGC & the PDGA have little or no repsect for the west coast events.

John,

That wasn't the point of the post.

Kirk

just seen that Microtel is now a NT sponsor........corporate ID is ... golfdisc ...for a discount

actually i heard they were sold out from another player, but i called the hotel after i posted and i did get a room at the wingate....whoo hoo...can't wait for some rock hill

The Friday Dubs is on the Web for the Charlotte Open. We are pouring the tee pads on the 16th. We've been breaking her in real nice like. The addition of the Web has changed the Nest somewhat also. I think the dubs start at 4:00, not sure though. See y'all there

As of today, the Wingate Inn has 8 more non-smoking doubles. There are 12 additional rooms, some smoking and some with kings. Their toll free number is 800.228.1000. Your best contacts are Bonnie and Jeannie.

Microtel is an excellent back up. They offer nightly rates a bit lower than the Wingate and are offering a weekly rate as well. Dilip, the owner, has attended every US Championship and is a big fan of the game. His personal interest in disc golf helped spark the PDGA Tour sponsorship. Their number is 888.771.7171.

John,

That wasn't the point of the post.

Kirk




Hi Kirk, That is what I thought Rhett was implying? :o He is more elloquent than I. :D

I plan on taking one of those qualifying spots. I can't wait for this event!

Hey Jonathan check your email. Thanks.

Josh

The Par 3 Shootout will once again be held Saturday morning of the Championship. However, this year the Shootout will be a doubles event. There is a $1000 bounty for a perfect round of 36!

For more complete information, please visit: www.usdgc.com. (http://www.usdgc.com.)

Winthrop University has reported that the entire Lakefront area will be closed on Wednesday, October 4th. This includes both disc golf courses, Winthrop Lakefront and Gold. Anyone coming into town for the Charlotte Open or just to practice needs to choose another course for that day.

Good news on the course otherwise though. The replacement for Hole 15 (The Clown's Mouth) is now playable. A new and improved bamboo wall has been installed on Hole 6 (The Beach). Most fairways have been mowed at least twice. All significant trimming has been completed.

The course is in already in phenomenal shape and many more work days are scheduled. Winthrop Gold should be in the best condition we've ever seen come tournament time.

I just qualifyed by winning the USADGC and was looking at the registration page.........What do I need to put for my qualifying event because it didnt have an option for my exemption!!! Cant wait to get down and play my 1st USDGC!!!

Give me a call tomorrow. We'll get you hooked up. (800.476.3968)

Just ask for Jonathan. And congrats!

correction: The bamboo is up on hole 7

Jonathon,

Are there anymore qualifying events?

Are there any sponsorship exemptions left or state spots that are not filled and can someone from another state, take the spot?
I am asking for Nikko Locastro, hes been playing quite well all year. Cashing or turning down cash in 7 pro events hes played.

The Missouri spot was given to another player before Am worlds. Nikko turned pro in Atlanta winning $240 and has won a pdga event since in Chicago.
He was well deserving of the Missouri spot, but it appeared the timing wasnt good for him. Our state rep didnt want to send a player who was am at the time, even though he was a MUCH stronger player.

He is a senior in High school, It would be a bit risky and expensive to send him down to try and qualify.
To have him miss school, miss the cut and just watch wouldnt be too cool.

Short of me paying $2,500.00 for a sponsors exemption spot do you have any suggestions or ideas on how to get him in the event?

Hey Dave,

Monday Qualifying and sponsor spots are the only options at this point. We are taking top 8 on Monday, versus 5 from years past. That will provide extra incentive for those not currently eligible. The minimum on a sponsor slot is $1250. If that's something you want to consider just let me know.

Actually the Charlotte Open is going to give the pro with the lowest round at hornet's nest(not already qualified) an opportunity to play in the USDGC. The thing is, the person has to sign up immediately after the tourny is over.

Give me a call tomorrow. We'll get you hooked up. (800.476.3968)

Just ask for Jonathan. And congrats!



Thanks Jonathan!!! Ill talk to you tomorrow!!!

Thanks Jonathon, do you know of any sponsors not using their spot?

Thanks Jonathon, do you know of any sponsors not using their spot?



None to my knowledge. Everybody coming to this dance already has a date...

Hey jonathan...Just checking, havent heard from you..r we clear

Hey jonathan...Just checking, havent heard from you..r we clear



Good to go.

Hey Jonathan the last couple days have been pretty busy but ill try and call tomorrow.........Thanks again for your help!

Is there anything that prevents a TD from throwing an Event during this week. Maybe no A-tiers and B-tiers? Just curious.

there has been a c tier here in va on usdgc weekend a couple of times.

yeah, i think C-tiers are fine.

There is no conflict on our end. Obviously we want a big party here in Rock Vegas, so the more people the better, but we certainly wouldn't discourage a promoter from running an event.

The replacement for Hole 15 (The Clown's Mouth) is now playable. A new and improved bamboo wall has been installed on Hole 6 (The Beach).




Could you elaborate please? Thanks.

The Clown's Mouth is not being used this year due to a substantial construction project at the baseball stadium. It is expected to be back in play in either 07 or 08, depending on when the work is done. The replacement hole is excellent and utilizes a nice area around where the other 15 was.

As for the bamboo wall, it is on Hole 7. My earlier post said Hole 6 which was a bogey on my part. The wall was completely re-built for this year's event. Both sections are wider and taller. The entrance to the green is also a little smaller. It looks very much the same at first glance but should definitely play harder.

Hope that helps...

7 looks awesome J.

7 looks awesome J.



Give Zeb, Trey, Michael and Justin the credit there. Zeb had the vision and they all had the passion. It is indeed a butt kickin' obstacle.

got that right... thing is put together very strong

Can Not wait to see the course again.

The green on hole 18 has an open view of the lake now. Wind can be felt coming off the lake, too. Can we say "pucker factor"?

Yeah, you don't want to be putting down at it. Beyond the wall all you see is waves!

It makes taking photos of the last putt easier, as that was the darkest place on the course... now the darkest place is Hole 15's green.

Course is looking great, and I think everyone will be amazed at the bamboo wall this year. It's the best wall yet.

Is it possable to post some images of the new # 7 and #15 holes. Can't wait to get there!

TK

How many '06 USDGC rocs can each participant buy?

U mean 2007 Rocs

Zilla will be there for the first time this year to CADDIE for homie B.Skinny....yall watch out with Skinnys playing abilities and the best caddie in the world he may be a favorite...... :eek:

Wow a Zilla sighting at TThe Championship

yea swebby a zilla sighting very rare indeed :D

Matt,

Can you get some pics of 7,15 and 18 and post the links here please?

That would be very cool, good Idea there Leyviar.

Come on, just take a drive, it's well worth it!

I will try to get some photos this week.

Thanks MaTThew

How many '06 USDGC rocs can each participant buy?



I mean 07?

Thanks Franklin Tanklin

Are you kidding me? Only two weeks away and no action on this thread? I can't wait to get there!!

BTW Matt, can we bribe you to post some pictures, or even a description of the hole changes? Enquiring mimes want to know ;)

the caddy book should be finalized this week, at which point all the hole specific info you desire will be a mouseclick away.

It won't have photos though... here's a teaser.

http://www.innovadiscs.com/usdgc/hole18_2006.jpg

Did you Photoshop away the short wall?

Or did they fill in chips to the top of the wall.

Chips to the top of the wall, and there are a couple of shorter terraces below the wall. It really looks intimidating from above staring down your putt through the chains and out over the water. A really great touch on a great finishing hole.

Hey Joe !! My knee has healed to the point where I will be able to humiliate myself with you guys in a couple of weeks. At least this year my excuses will be better than the ones I have had to search for the last two years.

Makes my decision to lay up alot easier!

Howdy Stan! I heard some vicious rumors that you were coming to take the Ring. I for one won't stand in your way! Look forward to seeing you in 12 days!!!! Should I bring the goldschlager?

Have you played the new holes? Can you give us a decription of the new ones? I'm so excited I can't stand it, and can't wait to get to Rock Hill!!!!!!!!! :) :)

the caddy book should be finalized this week, at which point all the hole specific info you desire will be a mouseclick away.

It won't have photos though... here's a teaser.

http://www.innovadiscs.com/usdgc/hole18_2006.jpg




i laid up on this hole the only other time i played in 2000 and there was a wall of trees back then :eek:

i think i'll just have to put my second throw in the chains instead of 25 short :D

i DEFINATELY can't wait to go back!!!!!!!!!
it will be nice to see all my old friends again!!

keith

That's a perfect MiTTenZZ death puTT if I've ever seen one. That just makes it all the more reason to run it :) I'd sooner hit that from 35 up the hill than a wide open 20 footer on 17...

The mulch overflowing the stone wall will be raked off on 18 so it won't be so scary. The most notable addition to 18 is the breeze off the water. I'm just happy that we'll have a little more light on the green for photos of the winner.

What water? All I see is a basket. :)

What water? All I see is a basket. :)




What basket, all I see is water! :D

LOL...

What water? All I see is a basket. :)




What basket, all I see is water! :D



Funny!

Joe, to my knowledge, there is only one hole this year that is different than last year. That would be the hole that will replace the clown's mouth. The first shot, for most people, will be a straight low tunnel shot that will need to fly straight for at least 300'. You don't want to come up short on the drive.I would guess that the fairway, at the pinchpoint, is at least 25' wide and the ceiling is less than or right around 10' high. (There may be a couple of other options, but they do not look attractive to me.) Then the next shot will be off to the left of the landing zone, and will be less than 300' from the landing zone. However, the pin is set back 20' inside a grove of holly bushes and if you do not execute an accurate approach, you will be faced with a well protected green. This hole is not the typical fairly wide open airspace Winthrop hole. It has more of the feel of being on the back nine at Hornet's Nest. (There is a possibility that on 888, the green will revert to its original position, but I have not heard the final word on that.) As for Goldschlager, I am clean at the moment and trying to stay that way for a while. And, as for the ring, my goal is last place cash this year. Something better than 85th or so, which is where I have finished the last two years. See you soon. Tell Tim I said hey. Perhaps we old timey ultimate players should get some kind of a side bet going, say a bottle of Tylenol or something?

Or maybe celebrate with some celebrex (http://celebrex.com/choosingpainreliever/default.asp?source=ask&HBX_PK=s_pain&HBX_OU=53&o=e pid!%7ceaid!%7cerid!).

Hey Stan, Thanks for the info. When are you going down to RH? We shold be there Monday early afternoon (2ish) and will be looking to play a little. Will you be recovered from the CO by then!?!?! I sent you a PM with my cell number. Tunnel shots here we come!!

Whats up Stan, can't wait to get there. Hopefuly this old ultimate player can get in the cash as well! I prefer aleeve myself :D

TK

Has the list of Registered Players been updated lately? I am thinking some people are missing.

i just got my money in today..another name to the list..

yeah, rock hill

Looking at the caddie book (which looks great) it looks like 888 went back to the original pin location, and hole 15 has changed. Harold said something about moving 10's pin back around the tennis court more, I think it stayed in the same spot due to 15 moving.

Any other changes I didn't notice?

Pictures of hole 7?

where did you find the caddy book - the link on the usdgc site is down

The last I spoke with Harold I lobbied for #10 remaining in the same place. However, I have not heard what he has decided on yet about #10. The changes you mentioned are the only ones that I know of. I have been spending almost all my time preparing Hornet's Nest for our event there on Oct 7/8. I have only played one round at Winthrop since last years USDGC (too many bad bogie memories) I hope to get down to Winthrop next week for another peek. If I see anything new I will post about it next week.

Hey Tim. Like I pm'd to Joe, I will be ball golfing that Monday morning so if I have any energy left that afternoon I might see you guys down there and toss a few. I hate missing the worlds and all those chances to play with you guys again. Hope we get hooked up this year,,,,,in some of those money spots !!!!.

Whats the weather going to be like?

Hopefully the full caddy book should be available for download tomorrow. Stay tooned. www.usdgc.com (http://www.usdgc.com)

Got to play 15 afterwork today with the target in the ground. Plays well, had a perfect drive but still got a 4. The approach is really tough. It's also the only hole where the 2 meter rule is in effect. I took a photo of the foliage above the basket, which would give you a good reason to keep the 2 meter rule, not a spot of sky, just branches branches branches. TThe TThumber will be a great way to get a circle four. :)

Lots of wind today as the front came through.

It will be hot as heck in the van. No AC and a heat wave and high humidity.

TThe TThumber will be a great way to get a circle four.



Sounds like if your thumber's off line, you could also end up above 2m and have to drop down in the middle of unplayable schule?

We shall see. I aint skeered

I'll be watching...

The holly bushes in this grove are quite mature. They provide thick canopy above head height, but below the canopy are primarily trunks that make for varied but playable putts.

Take care,
Harold

Not skeered but possibly skeerTT ?

Here is the caddybook link:
http://www.usdgc.com/pdf/caddybook.pdf

Don't listen to that guy. :)

The REAL caddy book has a lot of changes. This version is from about 10 days ago.

Trust me, I am building the book. It'll be available soon.

Matt

Two nuggets of information...

#1 - Super-sweet stiff Star Rocs will be available in the Pro Shop first thing Saturday morning instead of the traditional noon release. There is a 10 disc per person maximum. Discs will be set aside for those participating in the Par 3 Challenge so no worries there.

#2 - Volunteers are still needed, especially on the course. Hole Marhals, spotters, etc. Those working the event can expect lunch each day and a plethora of other goodies. The biggest perk will be this year's staff shirts AND jackets from huk lab. Anyone interested in pulling a shift should contact Paul Bergey at 803.366.5028.

I finally got out to the course today (along with the rest of Rock Hill's sunbathers and dog walkers and cyclists and cross country runners and picnicers and aimless wanderers). It was a beautiful day and did not have a lot of wind. The only other change that I saw (other than the hole that replaces the clown's mouth and the awsome new bamboo fence on #7 and the basket returning to its original placement on #13/888 and a minor change in the OB on #12) was the OB on hole #10 is different than last year. If you throw too strong down the fairway , you could throw through the fairway into OB. A good drive thrown in the fairway will set up the second shot where you have to pass over OB on the way to the pin. Let me tell you, the course looks fantastic. The Winthrop staff have planted lots of bushes and flowers and trees in places and the whole place is just like a well manicured park.(except for the construction at the baseball stadium, but I can overlook that) Harold's employees at Innova East are also out there busting it to make the course as awesome as it can be and they are doing a great job.

Yeah, hole 10 is cool now. You have an option.

Lay up left, then throw to the green. Still gotta land it in bounds on the island green. Kinda scary.

Or.

Go for the green in one shot. It's about 415 slightly uphill. But it's only about 60 feet wide. You better have the distance AND accuracy if you want a really easy 3. or heck, a spectacular 2. Total length to the basket straight ahead is about 535. There WILL be people going for the green. Oh, if you don't get in and STAY in, you go to the drop zone which is 375 to the pin. Fun hole. Decisions, decisions.

Is the list of registered players on the USDGC site going to be updated at some point or is there another source for an updated list?

The course will be getting much easier to play today. I have an invite to Rock Hill to assist with the trimming of the shrubberies. Neee. It will probably make the course easier by about .05 of a stroke per round. In other words, bring your A game. By the way, a little birdie told me that #14 ( the coliseum hole) might get a wee bit shorter and that there could possibly be a bit of OB in the bailout area, making the possibility of going for a deuce much more tempting and accessible to more folks, while the OB lurks below. Risk vs. Reward !!!!

That hole is an easy deuce if you just roll your Mainsqueeze...I did last year in practice and parked it :-D

And no, I didn't roll Marsha. The mainsqueeze by DynamicDiscs...original dimple disc, it's pretty sweet...

OK, folks, caddy book is online.

2006 Caddy Book (http://www.usdgc.com/pdf/caddybookweb.pdf)

you rolled it in PRACTICE...congrats mitch...

OK, folks, caddy book is online.

2006 Caddy Book (http://www.usdgc.com/pdf/caddybookweb.pdf)



Forgot to add a title.

you rolled it in PRACTICE...congrats mitch...


Oh yeah buddy, I do lots of great things in practice, and not so great things when it counts, that's why I'm not in the top few hundred of the sport :)

OK, folks, caddy book is online.

2006 Caddy Book (http://www.usdgc.com/pdf/caddybookweb.pdf)



Nice book. Hole 15 looks different. Hole 17's green looks a lot smaller.

Caddy book is very nicely put together again. I am so Ready.

Don't just talk about it, do iTT!!! :)

Looks like Harold is trying to fix the "donut hole" scoring problem on 17 where a score of 3 was the least common score last year on this par 3. Interested to see how this green shape works out if it's really like the caddy book drawing. Looks like a circle 3 is now a possibility and no 5s. Do you go right to the drop zone shown on the green if you go OB on the tee shot?

2 from the tee. then to the drop zone.

This hole will make or break your round.

beyond OB.


Hole #17� (249�) �Island Green� marking rule
in effect. See general ground rule #10. Area
inside pine bales is the only in-bounds. All else,
including bales themselves, is out-of-bounds.
Marking option for OB tee shot limited to retee
for first miss. After second miss, throw from drop
spot inside bales. Normal OB rules apply after
disc has come to rest inside the bales or throws
from drop spot.

Hole 17 scoring range predictions:
2: 18%
3: 7%
4: 12%
5: 3%
6: 60%

It's pretty tough.

The green may be a little bit wider ( although I am not sure about that), but it definately is not as deep. God help us if the wind is blowing because it is a tough shot now with no wind.

Players participating in the Monday Qualifying or competing in the Championship will want to review the USDGC Ground Rules in the 2006 Caddy Book. Some of these may shape strategy on holes.

Also, please remember that the entire Winthrop Lake area is closed today (Wednesday) for a Homeland Security training drill.

Take care,
Harold

I believe I had two of those 3's last year. I'm special like that.

Hey there miTTchy. I know I will be satisfied with 3's this year on 17. I wouldn't call the green unfair, but the pucker factor is definately ramped up a notch. And you are special !!

I'd love to get there this year, maybe next year??

Charlotte Creative Loafing Disc Golf Article (http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A82505) <(link)

Disc-o Fever
Charlotte disc golfers prepare for the U.S. Championships
BY JARED NEUMARK
Published 10.04.06
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DON'T CALL IT FROLF: A Charlotte disc golfer in action.It started when a guy named Ed noticed how much fun flinging an empty pie tin could be. In the 1970s, the creator of the Frisbee, Ed Headrick, gave his invention bins and a purpose. The hacky sack crowd embraced the fusion of golf with Frisbee (Frolf), but in the last few years disc golf has entered a new phase: serious sport.

Sales on discs this year are up 40 percent, says Brian Wilson, a Charlotte disc golfer who owns an online disc company. A couple of years ago, disc golf was in the World Games, and Wilson doesn't think an Olympic appearance for the sport is out of the question. "If you got a big sponsor like Nike involved, it would take off," says Wilson and then quips. "We just need to get the hippies out of the sport."

"If someone gave me money to sponsor me all year, I'd clean up my act. What do you want me to wear?" says Michael Johanson -- or MJ as he is known on the links. MJ is what you might picture a disc golfer to look like. Bearded, with a long ponytail and usually in tie-dye, MJ is also Charlotte's highest world ranked player at No. 33 and can throw a disc 650 feet.

The smaller, heavier discs have evolved to be more like discus than Frisbee. While there are only 15 or so golf clubs a golfer can choose from, the range of discs can go as high as 100 (Most players only carry 20 with them in a round). The discs are divided into three main categories: drivers, mid-range, and putters. Over-stabile disks are made to turn to the left and under-stable discs to the right. For serious disc golfers, the color of the disc can make a difference. Color dye adds a miniscule amount of weight to the discs. Brighter colors make for heavier discs. Since the discs are made in an uncontrolled environment, says MJ, outside factors like humidity can throw off the balance, causing a disc to do weird things in the air. Before pro tournaments, he'll test out new discs.

I ask them about my favorite word, which is about 60 percent of the reason I wanted to write this article: so I could say Frolf. "We actually have a shirt that says 'never use the "f" word,'" Wilson tells me. Disc golfers don't like the word Frolf because Frolf is derived from Frisbee, which is a trademark name. Frolf, Wilson tells me, is Midwestern terminology. (Since I can't say it anymore after this paragraph, Frolf. Frolf. Frolfity-frolf).

Although the U.S. is the center for disc golfing, the sport is played competitively in other countries. Interestingly, the regional topography of a nation has created distinct national styles of play. In Switzerland for example, courses tend to be long and less wooded. As a result, Swiss golfers can usually drive the longest. Because of a lack of park space, courses in Japan are shorter, and players there have developed to be the most accurate.

There are five 18-hole and two nine-hole courses in Charlotte, largely due to the efforts of Stan Mcdaniel, a disc diehard that works for Charlotte Parks and Recreation. McDaniel and another Charlotte golfer are in the Disc Golf Hall of Fame -- sort of. The hall of fame, which is scheduled to be built in Augusta, Ga., is only a concept right now. But 40 or so players have already received the equivalent of promise rings -- plaques of induction.

Real golf isn't real golf to a disc golfer; it's ball golf. And like ball golf, conversation on the course is all about the game. They talk about good drives, hooking and slicing, whether or not someone is close enough to putt. They yell fore if a disc is thrown errantly to another hole. MJ tells me that despite being made out of plastic, getting hit with a disc is quite unpleasant.

In fact, there is a whole list of injuries that you may not have imagined occur on the disc golfing course. It is not uncommon to blow out an ACL in a knee, tear up the rotator cuff in your shoulder, sprain or break ankles on roots in the ground, or break a finger on a follow through against a tree. One of the best players in Charlotte had a career-ending knee injury not too long ago.

Like relics from a primitive era, the old cement starter platforms can be found through the holes, concealed by overgrown grass. Most of these old platforms, from the late 1980s are halfway between the newer starting platforms and the bin. The old platforms are dead straight to the target, not requiring the golfer to curve the disc around a range of trees.

Reedy Creek is a heavily wooded course and even for a pro like MJ, the trees are too much of an impediment to avoid. At least half of the drives, carom off trees.

On the seventh hole, they offer me a chance to throw a disc. I think about turning down the offer because I can't even throw a normal Frisbee straight. But if I can go naked for an article ("Food in the Nude," Sept. 6.), I can throw a disc fully clothed. By some stroke of luck, I threw the disc right on line. It bent with the angle of the hole and landed in the center of what would be the fairway in ball golf.

In our four-some is Tong Ron, a chef who acquired his nickname when he brought metal tongs with him to the course. At first he did it because a surgery limited his mobility. But once he recovered, he kept the tongs. Tong Ron was the most passionate player in our grouping, clapping for himself when he flung a good drive and slamming discs in his bag on bad putts (This was actually quite amusing to watch if you've ever seen a ball golfer slam or throw a golf club in anger. Somehow slamming a soft disc that can't break isn't quite as bad #$*&$!).

The U.S. Disc Golf championship will be held at Winthrop University's Gold Course in Rock Hill, Oct. 11 - Oct. 14. Like ball golf, loads of fans come out to watch the pros. On Oct. 15, Creative Loafing is sponsoring a fan day for anyone to come out and play the championship course.

650 feet...I'd give him about 550 max :)

"Get the hippies out of the sport"????....are you F'n crazy? That was a majorly ignorant statement. Pure nearsightedness. Even if it was said with tongue in cheek, it has smatterings of prejudice. Just how are the "hippies" holding this sport back?

and he needs to do a little more research, Ed didn't invent the frisbee, he perfected it.

what is a Hippie? anyway?! U done doneitnow Taco.

I hate hippies. I think I used to be a hippie, but the only hippie I know now can throw 100' further than me. Danged hippies. -:-: Take a chill pill.

Right you are sir !!! I was playing with MJ at the Web last week and we had a favorable breeze. We were teeing from #2 Web. There is a green plastic box (a well pump cover) that is 515' from the tee. MJ put it within 10 of that box. I have not seen 650' but still, I am intimidated by the ease with which he throws over 500'. Danged hippies.

dagum hippies

someone has to stick up for the "hippies". they invented this sport. respect your elders and forefathers! :D

I know I'm "right on" this one. Some of you are going to sock-it-to-me, but those safari rounds in the park/neighborhood were the origins of our species. Don't blame the hippies!! Honor them! :Db:cool:

Good luck to all you qualifiers. Does Climo rhyme with primo? Hawaii's forgotten beer!! enough already....Rum Jugs...top 10.

Asheville course in peril.
If some of you guys are coming through Asheville on you way to Rock Hill please see This Thread (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=595688&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
Showing up at the support meeting at the site Sunday October 8th would really help.
Thanks

Dear Monday Qualifying particpants and USDGC competiors:

To supplement the ground rules, we've provided the following Q & A to address some of the repeat questions regarding the Wintrhop Golf Course. This Q & A will be available at check in and at other tournament locations.

Take care,

Harold

2006 USDGC � Rules Questions & Answers

General �

Question: Chain Link Fences � What is the ruling for a throw that flew over a chain link fence that either touched or came to rest leaning against the OB side of the fence?

Answer: As a matter of USDGC policy, shots that hit a chain link fence (Holes 2, 4, 8, 9, 10, 15) from the OB side and remain OB are deemed to have not rebroken the in-bounds plane regardless of the flex or curve of the fence. They should be played as OB with the mark for the subsequent throw being from the point where the disc last crossed from fair territory.

Question: The disc comes to rest above 2 meters, what is the ruling?

Answer: Rule 803.08 B (�The 2-meter Rule�) has been suspended for the USDGC except for the area across the mulched pathway on hole 15. Discs above two meters in other areas should be marked directly below, in accordance with rule 803.08A, with no penalty. Note: If the disc comes to rest above an OB area at any height, the player receives a 1-throw penalty for OB.

Question: What happens if a disc strikes, and or comes to rest against the red stakes or red flagsticks?

Answer: The red stokes indicate the presence of an Island Green. (See general ground rule #10.) The red stakes/red flag flagsticks are themselves out-of-bounds. In addition, the red stakes/flagsticks are not casual obstacles. They may not be moved.

Hole 2 �
Question: Is the little parking triangle near the green OB?

Answer: No. The OB line only runs along the leg of the triangle that borders the parking lot.

Note: The string is on the green side of the parking block. This is important because many throws bounce/roll across the parking lot, hit this parking block, and fall backwards into the parking lot. These throws have not broken the in-bounds plane near the green. They should be marked from the point where the disc last crossed fair territory.

Question: What do we do with a throw that lands on top of the utility shed on the left, about midway up the fairway?

Answer: With the elimination of the 2-meter rule combined with the fact that this shed is not OB, a disc that lands on top of the shed is not OB. 803.04E indicates that the player would play directly (not 30 centimeters nor 1 meter) behind the structure on the line of play.

Hole 3 �
Question: What about shots that do not come to rest across the street?

Answer: There is some fair territory between the tee and the street . Normal stance and marking rules apply. There is also some OB (Lake, Green 18.) Normal OB rules apply for these.

Hole 4 �
Question: What is the ruling if a player�s throw rolls/skips/slides etc. back into the greenside OB area?

Answer: The ground rules state that throws in the greenside area must be played from the drop zone or the previous lie with a 1-throw penalty. The semi-circle of bricks near the Leland Cypresses is designed to minimize the likelihood of discs rolling into the OB. In many situations, it will be to the player�s advantage to elect the previous lie instead of the drop zone.





Hole 4 �
Question: What is the ruling for throws that go across the paved road behind the Leland Cypress Green?

Answer: The ground rules state that road and beyond is OB. This road used to be fair because it was unpaved. Now that it is paved, throws on it are OB as well as throws beyond it.

Question: How does one play throws under, near, behind, the bricks and pavers nears the enviroscreen to the right of Hole #4?

Answer: This area is now part of the greenside OB area. The ground rules state that throws in this area must be played from the drop zone or the previous lie with a 1-throw penalty.

Note: The fenced maintenance area on hole 4 is now part of the greenside ob area. A throw that lands within the fenced maintenance must be played from the drop zone or the previous lie with a 1-throw penalty.

Question: A disc is seen going towards or into the Leland Cypress but can not be subsequently located. What is the call?

Answer: Lost Disc. Please make sure to alert spotter before throwing.

Hole 5 �
Question: What happens if one of the cars driving on the road hits a disc?
Answer: The throw is played where it comes to rest. See 803.07A.

Hole 6 �
Question: I know the concrete culvert is OB for hole 7, is it also OB for hole 6? Answer: Yes.
Question: Is the peninsula underneath the OB portion of the boardwalk also OB? Answer: Yes

Hole 7 �
Question: Can a player reach through the bamboo fence to throw?

Answer: Yes, 803.05A & B allow players to make incidental contact with an obstacle. The player may not bend or hold back the bamboo.

Question: From inside the bamboo fence, can a player hold onto the bamboo while making a putt?

Answer: Yes, but the player must demonstrate �full control of balance before advancing toward the hole� per 803.04C.

Holes 11, 12, 13, 14 �
Question: What is the mark for a throw that touches the concrete curbs and rebounds back into the road or comes to rest leaning against the curb?

Answer - As stated in the ground rules, concrete curbs, where present, are out of bounds. As such, any throw that rebounds off a curb has NOT passed into fair territory. The mark is taken where the disc last crossed from fair territory.

Hole 15 �
Question: What is the nature of the mandatories on hole 15?

Answer � Both mandatories are single mandatories. The two do not create a double mandatory. Each mandatory has its own mandatory line.

HD there was a question that came into play on hole 10 today. Does the island green only apply to the tee shot?

For instance, if a player drives to the fairway to the left of the tree and then plays an approach shot for his second shot to the green and comes up short or skips off the green. Does the player take the drop from where it crossed OB or is there a drop zone?

anybody know anything else about folks trying to qualify today, other than what this says?

http://www.charlottedgc.com/usdgc/monday_qualifiers.htm

winthrop appears to be getting TTrimmed

TTrim's up on the low down...relaxin' and waitin' for Wednesday.

Nice shootin, BS. You're IN baby!

Last cash, anyone?

Dear Doug - Good question. The answer is provided in the Ground Rules in General Ground rule #10, section B. The Island Green is not in-bounds for marking purposes until the disc has come to rest within the island. So it does not matter if it is a tee shot or an approach, the Island green rules apply until the disc has come to rest on the Island. In other words, for that part of the hole, you ain't in until you're in. OB Shots that do not make it leave the thrower with a choice of the drop zone, the previous lie, or the last place in-bounds excluding the island.

Take care,

Harold

I said 67 or 68

I think Winthrop has been guTTEd


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Hang in there CuTT

question: what happens it two or three people tie for the last qualifying spot?

or: what if nine or ten people all tied with a 68?

Last year there was a tie for the last spot and there was a playoff on Tuesday for it.

Good job BS and pass the word to Cutt as well. But keep and eye out there, i have seen funny things happen in the hill.

I hope some of you fellow NC'ers are out there pushing superboy. DW jr. If i had known he was going to try I would have made the trip.

I am already proud of him for trying.

TThanks buddy. JUst hope it holds.

I believe that you are fine Cutt, thats a good score. Hows the course playin? looks to me maybe a stroke or two higher than last year.

Did not see LL on the list. Has he retired?

I don't think he qualified this year.

the wind has been kickin for the last 4 days but the course is looking GREAT as usual. HTDuval has made some good changes.

Did not see LL on the list. Has he retired?



his neck is hurt and he's not even attempting to play

WOTS: LLs neck is Bang Banged up.

Tizzle get up off this thREaD since you HATE this tourney.

find a post where I said I hated this tournament. Please. I'd love to read it.

calm down buddy
JUst F-ing wit ju.

well I tell you what I do hate...people messing with me. I know you were joking. You know you were joking. Apperently, not everyone is you and I however. In that there lies a problem.

I'm not gonna get back into this crap again. Good luck to all those qualifying esp the NC guys. Hope CuTT's and BS's rounds hold up to add some NC playas in the best tournament in the world (I mean the one I hate the most :D)

When is the cuTT off time

lil wiggy had a great group going out with him. i really hope he and CoReal get in.
CoReal SHOULD already be in after last weekend. BOOO!!

sorry i don't use those jGAY ***** emtiocon but pep should know I'm never siruis.... Well maybe wit my radio..

When is the cuTT off time



4

CoReal SHOULD already be in after last weekend. BOOO!!

SECOND

CoReal SHOULD already be in after last weekend. BOOO!!

SECOND



Please explain...

JJ has the spot.

The only 2 ppl that beat Coral this weekend i Charlotte that were not qualified were JJ and Chris Lee. Chris Lee could not attend and if JJ had gotten his money in, Coral would have had the spot.

:oThanks Robert.

Good luck to all.

:oThanks Robert.

Good luck to all.



OOOOHHHHHHHH John called you Robert, hahahahaha!

Better than what The Big DR told me to call him. ;)

Hmmmmmmmm. If it came from DR than it can't be good.

Better than what The Big DR told me to call him. ;)



That guy who is better at disc golf than me?

I thought if you didn't sign up in time you gave up your qualification and you couldn't "requalify"

That would be true if the C open would have been a "true qualifier", but it was a spot "given" to the CDGC. They made the decison before the tournament to give it the top person regardless of wether they had already qualified(and not sent in the $)

whats up with the website? cant see the scores.

i can get to them from the thread but not the usdgc website.

Hope 70 holds, i would hate to see Tim not get in two years in a row.

JJ should have passed it on and maybe coral could have given him the money to play the monday qualifier. I mean I'm sure he would've made it.

although i agree that would have been an admiral thing to do. It would be hard for anyone to "give up" a spot.

I know people dont like for us to model disc golf after ball golf but i would like to see a qualification process like the usga uses for the "US Open"

I definantly don't like the fact that you have 30 days to get your cash in and I think you should have it in by like Sept 15 or so. If you get a spot at the Memorial you have to pay like 8 months in advance which is retarded.

I would have given it up as it was my fault I didn't pay and not the people I beat out.

I totally disagree. The reason for the 30 day rule is so no matter when you qualify, you have the same ammount of time. Imagine a cut off date of Sept 15 and qualifying Sept 10. You'd be like 5 days??

Even if you qualify at the memorial or super early, just pay your money. You can always get the money back later!

JJ should have passed it on and maybe coral could have given him the money to play the monday qualifier. I mean I'm sure he would've made it.



..And since you and Coral are still in High School, i guess it doesn't matter anyway. ( unless you write yourself a note)

no doubt

JJ should have passed it on and maybe coral could have given him the money to play the monday qualifier. I mean I'm sure he would've made it.



..And since you and Coral are still in High School, i guess it doesn't matter anyway. ( unless you write yourself a note)



wow! Kozak

I totally disagree. The reason for the 30 day rule is so no matter when you qualify, you have the same ammount of time. Imagine a cut off date of Sept 15 and qualifying Sept 10. You'd be like 5 days??

Even if you qualify at the memorial or super early, just pay your money. You can always get the money back later!



Well the guys who qualify late in the year would still have time to get in. I just would have a tough time paying $300 for something that is so far away.

are you tired yet, Dad?

Playoff going on now for last place. All 70's are going at it. Tim Barr missed a 30-40' putt (hard to see from here) for birdie to push it to hole 17.

Chris Kilgus wins it on 17!

DNA congrats dog!

Monday last chance qualifiers are:
Craig Leyva
BS Johnson
Mike Broderick
Kris Orrick
Doug Adams
Jason CuTT Land
Dean Pfeifer
Chris Kilgus

TTrim

Happy birthday Jack.

Anyone have the scores? or a link to where they are listed?

USDGC.com doesn't show anything, and it just links back to main page.

Way to get in BS and cuTT...happy bday Jack.

64 was the hot 70 was last in (playoff)

So a 70 is like a 985-885 round right? I looked at last years results to get that.

Playoff going on now for last place. All 70's are going at it. Tim Barr missed a 30-40' putt (hard to see from here) for birdie to push it to hole 17.

Chris Kilgus wins it on 17!



Tim is usually MONEY from that distance. Hate to not see him in the tourney. I guess he'll be back here running dubs on Tuesday :( Congrats to the others that did make it and good luck.

Scooter,
U can get there. My goal is that, also. Only time then it will happen every year, unless I get too old. Get ur schooling done. Do it, A+. Then u will be able to do like u want. The game will go on, ur time will come.

Peace

Congrats to all of the qualifiers.

Yeaaahhh Cutt and BS!

Way to get in BS and cuTT...happy bday Jack.




I see a last cash in the future....

Yeah KO!!!

Kris Orrick is dangerous when the pressure is on, way to represent KnoxVegas Killa'!!!

So a 70 is like a 985-885 round right? I looked at last years results to get that.



I suspect that SSA is higher this year since 17 was redesigned and the re-tee rules were changed. I am not sure how the other minor changes effected it either. The new 15 and change of 888 might change things too. Plus, it was windy today at times.

Bottom line, do not draw too many conclusions on SSAs for today based on previous years' scoring averages.

Disclaimer: I am not a USDGC employee or official...I just did some data entry today (have not even had the chance to see the new 15 yet).

Here are the scores. (http://www.charlottedgc.com/usdgc/monday_qualifiers.htm)

I will be out there on Sunday to prep, and take my spot in the Championship on Monday.

I'm not trying to be cocky(so ease up on slamming me please?) I have a very confident attitude, which every golfer should have in this type of situation.



Leyva's Qoute a few days ago. NICE shooting Craig good luck

David passes on his thanks to everyone who encouraged him today at the course and here on the message board (Travis Jason, etc) not such a great day, but a great learning experience which will certainly be valuable in the upcoming year. Even though it was sort of an a** kicking, no sooner was he in the car than David was talking about what he needed to do in preparation for trying to qualify next year. A personal note from me, David certainly has some great role models among you all in Disc Golf, and more importantly in leadership, maturity, integrity, etc. - so thanks, and I hope you all play up to the best of your ability.

Congrats Kilgus

bet he qualifies next year

A personal note from me, David certainly has some great role models among you all in Disc Golf, and more importantly in leadership, maturity, integrity, etc.



.....and a great father. Tiger had a great father too.

Thanks, MTL i appreciate it man. The playoff was awesome and I had an all around great time. The Charlotte Club and USDGC crew did a great job.