Thanks guys. Your awesome!!

;)

Fisher price does not count as tools. :DMaybe we can work together and knock out some generic but eye friendly butt supporters for the park. I know we could get at least 9 done in a few hours.

9 would be good every other hole. I think the tee boxes need more work than anything else out there

ditto ware

i think that takes priority

yeah no doubt!! boxes suck presently!!

What kind of solutions do we have on that rock? Maybe we can gather some of the bark mulch that is laying everywhere and get a few up to speed. The tee boxes will be a chore all on there own. I only know of a couple that really need the maintanance. If you have not been there in a few weeks, I think you might be supprised at how well the neighborhood has been respecting the park. This is becoming my most favorite spot in A town. I am wondering if the changes at Lago will draw more of a crowd to the kitty. Time will tell.

Its lots of work....but elavate the tee boxes. Use rocks from the course to build up boarders around the tee box and fill them with mulch and dirt.

bring yo wheel barrels and shovels!! where can we get mulch or some other fill!!

You know, the company I work for just happens to do excavation. How many dump truck loads of land fill do we need. This will be one of the biggest contributions I have ever put up. I can make this happen if the loads dont just sit in piles there. This is gonna take some serious labor. Maybe a load up front and load in the back of the park. Or maybe just split a load in front and back. I can have the dump truck ready at a drop of a dime. Let me know if this would benefit the park or just create ugly dirt piles.

what kind of fill mike??

I will have to inquire, I think I can get rock, dirt, mulch, but dont hold me to it yet. Would the rain just wash the boxes away or should we try to stake up some kinda wood to hold the fill in place. I think 13 will be the worst issue. That almost needs to be a concrete teebox. Its all downhill rock.

really! i don't like 11 either . how about the tee signs at the end of the boxes!! somebody could really hurt themselves!!

Big problem with some of the tee signs #5,6,7, all need to be moved along with a number of others. Were lucky nobody has broken a hand yet. Also a number of boxes need wook. Mike, try to get some base screenings or road fill would work best and I can probaly get a bobcat for an afternoon. Could have this place looking good in no time

hell yeah, lets tune this course up!! way to step up amigos!!

now we are talking......there is plenty of things that can be done. People puTTing ideas to work. Now make some committments and continue the converstions. Then getter done. I am sure if the Rock board was approached a dragon invasion could be planned.

there you go, git-r-done!! sat mornings are out for me (work)

some one call Berlind , I am SURE he has some flowers he could PROvide for the upcoming event ;)

anyone want to get together sat afternoon for a round and to get a tentative game plan?

who wants to play this afternoon

efi what time can you make it?
dubs in it sounds like
i want some
grunion is dyin to see some real disc golf
who else?

2:45! dubs sounds good! who's down?

k lets do 3 oclock
im there

where you at efrain?

we got
me
dub
r w
maybe b logan
efi? i'm sure he'll be there
crump?





do it

Talked to E. He gets off at 2 and said he will be at the kitty. I am down for 3 oclock. I will see you guys out there.l

kewl !! i will be there!!

might be 315

fun as always!! nix/wright win!!

what plan did you all come up with?

We shot some ideas around but nothing in stone yet. Still working on it V-man.

kwel.....
I can do door prizes can or food for a work day....just let me know
Good work guys ...

Rick is trying to get a bobcat for movinf the land fill. Would we have to have that approved by the neighborhood? We are going to re-locate the trouoble making tee signs as well. I will find out next week about the land fill. Maybe I can get a variety of filler to get the tee boxes right were we need them. We have packers/vibrators as well. This thing will be off the hook. I will get with the CEO's wife as she is familiar with disc golf. She may allow a couple of laborors to come pack all the tee boxes and help move dirt.

someone call Ed Coffey....he has the contacts for cat hollow


It all sounds good

so what will we have to do for 13- build a form, so we can create a level box? do we just build a frame out of lumber, then fill and pack, or what?

The course is in better shape then I had thought. Moving some of the tee markers, and giving some of the boxes more definition is most of it.
http://centxdglove.com/cathollow/brushycreekmuddiscgolfmap.jpg

#5's box needs work
#11's box needs to be leveled
#13 needs lots of work

Many tee markers need to be moved, or the edge of the tee box needs to be better defined. We need some of those markers that stick in the ground and have the hairy tops coming out of the ground, like at Pease...

Just some random thought as the coffee starts kickin in

lets get a move on this!! who is going to contact the mud district? i think we can maybe move a few boxes a little in order to lessen the work needed!! on 13 , it will take a hell of a lot of fill and time to level.maybe if we relocate this box it would reduce the work required.On 11 it should be a lot easier to move the box as well.I think we can accomplish this without taking away from the hole.
just my thoughts!! tee signs will be an easy fix!!

Efrain, give me a shout this morning. I gotta see you this morning. For 13 I believe we need to make a temporary tee box so the framing does not get jacked with. Lets start making it happen guys. I have alot to do today but I will see if the depot has any scrap lumber. Vinnie, can we get any donations to go towards the park?

Been doing some digging and found a liitle bit of info.
Here is a map of the entire community:
MUD (http://www.brushymud.com/filecabinet/Catalogue_SUMMER/21ParkLocations.pdf)


And here is general info about the DG course, including cards, course map, and the MUD contact:

info page (http://www.brushymud.com/RulesandRegulations.ivnu)

I dont mind contacting this person, but I should probably speak with Ed first and hear his thoughts. I dont want to jump the gun and screw with any kind of relationship that might have already been devolped. Somebody PM me the Coffeys #.


So we call the course Cat Hollow. In the course directory, it is listed as Brushy Creek DGC. It is in the Brush Creek MUD, In the Liberty Walk Greenbelt. I think this needs to be addressed. We either need to call the course something different, or get the name changed on the course directory.
Thoughts?

I wish I could donate. I am in the hole already for the TWC.
But I can logisticly help out.
I know folks and what they do.
I have pm Nix with Ed's # and I would wager the compny Ed works for has scrap wood.
I have a cedar bench ( cedar 2by6 design)
I will give it up, but it could easily be removed from the park So it would need some theif deteral work.
Nice to see everyone pulling together.
KEEP IT UP!

Hey Nix, did you speak to Ed? Find anything out?

So in high point nc we have a course called oak hollow. Last year for the Mookey's cup all the disks had a cat's face stamped ching style. Just irrelevant commentary.

thank you for that great info.....
I called Ed and he is expecting you all to call

I went out today and was suprised to see the trash picked up from #11's tee box.

I took my wagon and some trash bags, hauled out five, 30 gallon trash bags full of plastic water/gatorade bottles and beer/coke cans. The majority of the trash seams to be wash through from the rains and construction trash.

My most interesting peice of trash was the pair of 'stained' shorts on hole #1... very disturbing, not sure I want to know the story behind those.

Plenty more peices of plastic and bottles in the creek/wash area by holes 17 and 18.

Ask not what your Disc Golf course can do for you, ask What can you do for your Disc Golf course.

Well done allen!

No doubt! Thanks for the trash haul!!

I have not called Ed- busy at work today- I will if I get a chance.

Very appreciative man! :cool:

Inquired today about some fill. I think I can have one dump truck of crushed rock sent that way. Will get a confrimation this week.

okay- just got off the phone with Edman. The guy he has talked to in the past is not the contact they have posted in the web page. The guy he has talked to (he did not have the name- he was driving and will get it to me later) is the one responsible for most of the work out there. John Houck designed the course, basically flagging it. Then this guy, built all those 'greens' and the tee markers and did lots of the clearing. Apparantly he is a board member of the Brushy Creek MUD. Ed thinks he will be enthusiastic about the work we want to do, but hesitant to let us do it- as in he may want he and his crew to do the work. ( no please, can we do it :p ). But who knows. Ed also has some trash cans we can put out there, we just need to go pick em up. (well really, this guy was supposed to go pick up trash cans months ago- but some of us can do it, right?) Another plus is this guy is a disc golfer him self.

So no real progress as of yet, just some background info. Ed will get me the contact info he has for this guy, then I will contcat him first, then the posted contact, and go from there. I would like to have a pretty specific idea of exactly what we want to do, and where we want to do it before I make the call- so if you have a thought, or dont like one of the ideas posted, now is your chance to speak up. I will try to summarize what we want to do, and post it later or tomorrow, and we can go from there.

I believe it would be a good idea to put pota cans on holes 1, 13, and 9. This way there will be a porta can for the women on each end of the course and one in the middle. All locations are trail accessable which will make it easy for a truck to drop off.

Thanks for the update Nix.

a bit of info that could be helpful: Ben vallejo is a resident (from bryces) and I know another guy who is on one of the boards for the brushy creek mud district!!

Josh, thats good info you got from Edman, now if we could just set up maybe a walkthru with this guy we could make a priority list especially if he and his crew will do the work if not at least get thier blessings on the improvements and we can get it done. I think the tee signs need to be addressed first before soomeone breaks a hand on one, ouch. If you can contact him I would be willing to meet him during the day at his conv.

Allen, thanks for the trash detailing

Ricky that is a good idea, and I agree the tee signs should be first, then a couple of the boxes then extras....

PM me your contact info, and we will see what we can arrange...

Josh, you got mail

I think the tee signs need to be addressed first before soomeone breaks a hand on one, ouch.



Make 'em away from both leftie and righty hands :-)

I took a newbie coworker out there last week and even after warning him three times on hole #5 (watch out.....hey, watch out for the tee sign....BOB YOU CAN HURT YOUR HAND REAL BAD IF YOU HIT THAT!) he still just -><- barely missed it. Will not be a minute too soon because it WILL happen.

keep it going!

I think we need to brake off into teams. Everything must be adressed and time can cause the issues not to be adressed. How about Efi and I take care of the benches. Then when/if I can have the crushed gravel delivered we work together with Ricks babcat to scatter the rock to the desired locations. At least with the rock in the locations to use we would'nt have to brake our back moving the pile around. While we are prepping the boxes Rick could be pulling up the tee signs with another crew relocating them. Just a thought. I hope this guy lets us do the work.

we still should prioritize!! tee-signs first in my eyes,then tee-boxes etc. benches are nice but a little lower on the priority list!! and don't forget a good trash cleanup!!

Well said Efrain, a thought on the tee signs, they are going to be pretty hard to move, what about leaving them where they are and just cutting them off to about 2' high and re welding the plates. they could then be used as the tee line with another marker of some sort on the other side, just a thought, I realize some are not properly located to be used as a tee marker but most of the dangerous ones could be.

theres signs all over town about free fill dirt. that will work perfect for the tee boxes. what do ya'll have in mind for the tee signs?

moving some tee signs is probably priority 1.some of the tee signs are in dangerous locations!! i have seen so many people almost smack the signs with there follow through!!

cut a foot or so of pipe out the middle of the tee pole and reattach the two ends together. At least then they will be short and no one will back hand into them. And then again a well placed sledge hammer on the concrete near the pole , most times will seperate the concrete for the pole and the the pole will slide out the ground.
But keep in mind getting a welder around that park, :o

Does anyone have a portable welder?

Not me.

Randy Gerde (done portable welding at the ROCK and out at Moodys.
But cat hollow maybe to hard to get a portable welder around to all the place needed

Alrighty then...Here's the dealio folks. Get the existing poles out of the ground (however it has to be done) I'll get some white sheet metal make some new faces that are readable and have actual distances, hole #'s,tree location or whatever the course needs to have put on them and reattach them to the poles and put em back in the ground in a safe location.(AWAY from righty's and lefty's).

nice!

sounds good Jeff-
forgive my ignorance though- can sheet metal be welded on to the signs, or how does that work?

The poles have faceplates on them alredy so I figure we could just drill some holes and nut and bolt 'em to the faceplate.

Nix could you redirect your avatar to somewhere or nowhere its making the pages you post on take awhile to load. thanx

FINE!! :mad:






:p

Has anyone found out if they are going to let us do the work? This needs to be resolved and fast. Plans are being made and this will definately put a damper on the time line if we cannot get this approved soon! :eek:

Ed will be getting me the contact info- I will update as soon as we have new info. As of now, we wait. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I'll do some pushing as well

Thanks guys. I'm glad that we are all pulling together for this event. This is one of the most dedicated disc golf communities I have ever seen. Keep up the good work.!!!!

You are learnin about the Dragons...Me too...

it is something special...

and now you know why we burst out with
ROUND ROCK!!!!

and now you know why we burst out with
ROUND ROCK!!!!



word!!!!!!!!!!

So Edman contacted Katie who is the posted contact on the website. Ed gave Katie a brief rundown, and requested The Mans (the guy who supposedly did most the work out there) info. Katie said she would call The Man immediately, and help plea the case.
Edman has not heard back. If Ed still has not heard back in the next couple of days, he will contact The Man directly.
Ed suggested we proceed with planning a work day, and that at least initially the MUD will only want to be aware of our presence. I think we should try and schedule this, and if need be we can reschedule it-if there is a reason that justifies it.
I would think sacrificing a Saturday of golf would get the most people out.
(plus volunteering is proven to lower scores. really.)
I think some of us should take a walk thru, and really lay out a plan of attack- get it down on paper so we can mark accomplishments off our list.
I say we work on Saturday Feb. 5th-
We need a roll call of help, and tools they can bring.
Grunion- let us know on that fill.
Who else can help?

ice bowl at zilker!!

Ice Bowl,,,,,,Live Oak!!!

why are ya'll telling me this- when are they- conflicting dates or what- give me some info!

Feb 5th is the date of the Waterloo Disc Golf Club Ice Bowl at Zilker park. I believe that Live Oak Ice Bowl is this Saturday but, I work Saturday so I'm not certain.

It will be hard to find a work day that does not confilct with something.

there is something every week
I suggest one of the next three weeks or all of them.

Saturday February 5th 930am as long as it is not raining

need workers
need tools
need workers with tools
i will buy a case of beer (for afterwards, not during)
please come help!

nix call Ed ....he has good news for you

Then fill me in once you get the info please!

Thanks Vinnie- I left a message with him.

How about we cut the tee off at say 2' and set the top section back in the ground across the box low enough to be safe, 2' or so and we have our line set. Only need a hack saw and lots of new blades and a shovel. This seems to be the easiest and fastest way to fix the tee signs I can think of. Can come back and put caps on the cut pipe or fill with concrete.

somebody has to have a cordless sawzall!! there needs to be probably 12" allowed for re-setting the signs into the ground . however there are many options for re-installing such as sleeving between the cut post and the new lowered pole.kind of like a thread less coupling type connection whitch can be welded or fastened with set screws or something!!

Edman spoke with David- who is Scotts boss. Scott is the discgolfer who got a lot of the stuff done out there. David is very nice and easy to work with and will be a great asset. I have Davids # and will call him today, to set up a walk thru, and just breifly go over the game plan. Ed said David said they have a back hoe and 2 crew guys that we can use. David will also be picking up some trash cans from Ed. I would like to have one of you guys go with me thru the walk thru if we can schedule it right- Ricky has expressed an intrest in this, so I will try to cordinate with him.


We need to make some decisions on the tee-markers. Do we want to dig them up, and relocate? Do we want to chop and reweld or drill back on so they are shorter? There might have been other suggestions, but thats all I remember right now. Share your thoughts please...

I am telling you from experience with a sledge
A well placed sledge hammer will break lose the concrete hold on the pipe and the pipe will slide out the ground.
Digging holes out there will be fun.
I suggest someone get out the and try the sledge and if it works, collect up all the signs and get with Hellman to add the improvements he spoke of.

I expect to see your experience at 930 Feb 5th.

I don't know.....that type of hammer doesn't fit this hands anymore. :D
But I comitted myself to be the bringer of baskets to the Waterloo ice bowl. But I will see if I can spread myself thinner :D

i can help it just has to be after 7 pm!! :D

I will be there the 5th along with K-T. She said she will be glad to grab a Glad and help out with the trash pick-up end of things. Someone bring a sledge hammer.

Just cleared that day from my schedule and I'm in as well. Another "work detail" some of us could branch out and tackle would be to clear rocks from the fairways of some of the tight holes. (note to self: bring a bottle of ibuprofen, lol)

you guys are great!

keep em coming!

need tools!

Josh I thought you sent out a list of tools needed, but i couldn't find it. I have stuff like a big wheelbarrow, rakes, extension pole tree saw, hedge clippers (manual), gas powered weed eater. I can't carry all that in my little Honda though so if that stuff might be needed, someone with a truck would have to swing by my place beforehand.

Great John- I can pick that stuff up- we can make arrangements next week!

Spoke with Daivd- very nice guy. He will meet Ricky and I at the course early next week and walk thru with us, and plan the work day. An additional work day might be planned to coordinate his crew.

I know Vinnie thinks a swift sledge hammer will knock those posts right out, but my back is a little concerned with the "easy" part of that. Seems like a shortned post would really reduce our work load. Does anyone have objections to a 18" tee-sign? Then,like Ricky and Efrain suggested, we just sawzall it, and reweld or drill back into place.

I am not in construction, so my ignorance might be pretty apparannt- but if any of you have a better grasp of the best way to level some of those boxes, I would like to hear your thoughts. I dont want to sound like an idiot talking to David about how we can tackle this stuff...

I am not the boss here, so if you have an idea or comment, share it now- we can all work together to make Cat Hollow an awesome compliment to ROUND ROCK!!

hey josh , i can at least offer tools since my schedule does not permit my presence. let me know what ya need!! or get a definate plan and i can tell you what you need..

I will head over to help after the waterloo ice bowl.

sounds good, thanks efrain!

I believe chopping the poles and rewelding them would be more time consuming and labor intensive. If the sawzaw is available we will need about 10 blades just to make sure we get all of them cut. I would suggest using the bobcat to pull all poles out of the ground and hauling them back to hole one for a single cut at the concrete level. With this done we would be ready to repour the concrete in the original holes with shorter tee signs. Not to short as they are the markers for the tee box. I think 24" would be good. Distance00 could also attach the new plates while they are all at hole one. I believe this method would be the fastest and least labor for everybody. After all poles are out Rick could relocate the crushed rock to the tee boxes that needs it and then it is just a matter of getting those up to speed. After the pile of fill is spread to its places we can start setting the new tee signs. Let me know what you guys think.

anyone have a good sized inverter minimum 1000W ? you could then use power tools on site!!

The batteries for cordless tools charge fine on down to a minimum of a 150 watt inverter. Used to use these all the time when I worked in the feild. I have one if we have the cordless drills and so forth. Do we have a cordless sawzaw?

maybe I am dense, but-

we were going to either:
a) dig up tee posts, relocate, and reinstall with concrete
or
b) chop the tee post, removing a 10" section, and then reweld or drill back to post

and dikchead is suggesting we do BOTH, but also haul them all into one spot, and have Jeff perform additional work to the signs, take them all back to the boxes, and reinstall???

I thought we were trying to keep this simple. Digging those things up is a major chore. My vote is for the chop and drop.

no offense dikchead,and i know there is none taken, just putting the 'nice' tone out there.
:)

Ok prick, this is what I am contemplating,

I think it would be quick and easy to just wrap a chain around the post and pull it up with the bucket of the Bob Cat. Rick is still getting the bobcat correct? Would'nt that be easy and just drive them back to one for maintanance?

Cutting and re-welding would be a trmendous amount of work. Even trying to use a sleeve method would just not be productive. I believe all posts can be done in one day. Cut all posts at concrete level to eliminate the old concrete and shorten the length. Re-seat the shorter poles in the original holes with concrete. We have to make total use of the Bob Cat while in our posession. I dont know if we will have it for one day or what.

I am not positive about the bobcat at this point- but we should have the backhoe.

Do you think this will damage the posts?

Not at all. If we are worried about the chains scratching the paint off we can wrap it with a towel before putting chains around it.

okay, well then that does not sound too difficult- assuming we can get the equip to all the tees

One way to know whether this is a sure fire way to do it would be finding out from the original builders how deep the holes are dug. I would assume 18", but this is the is the factor that will make or brake us. Now the issue is who is gonna pay for the new concrete? Who wants to be in charge of setting the new poles in place "LEVEL". We need to get a game plan.

Removing Tee sigsn - Rick Wright
Enhancement of tee signs - Distance00
Resetting Tee sings.?
Leveling of Tee boxes - grunion and ????
Trash detail - KT and ??? I thought the ladies were going to set this one out????
Benches - Efi and grunion

Lets build off of this and try to get some kind of plan of attack going. Changes and and suggestions are welcome

sleeves would be really easy mike give me the o.d. and i can pre-cut sleeves on the clock! chop cut section out which equals 2 cuts . pre-drill over sized holes in sleeves then mark and tap pre existing poles and bolt together easy! or whatever !!

I am familiar with sleeves as I do have the electrician skils as well. What I am seeing is that you will need more tools, more cutts, drilling is required, and painting will need to be done to prevent rust. I know its a good idea but we are pressed for time. I am afraid this will cause more down time as the next team is waiting for previous work to be finished befort they can start. Distance is gonna need his time with the posts as well. Agree or no?

nothing electrical about that application!! you guys are doing the work , just throwing suggestions out there!!

Ever run rigid conduit? EMT is just like sleeves as well. The couplings are compression or screw tight. Kinda the same application aye? :D

okay okay this is all good stuff

i want to hear rickys and edmans thoughts on this stuff, as I know they both have some smarts in this department.

dikchead, the list is a great start, we'll go from there

Hey prick, don't mention it. I am here to help all yall fauckers. :p

:p

allright dickey boys !! anyways good to see all you fukers stepping up!! :D:D

What I was suggesting was just cut the tee sign off 2' or 18" fromm the ground and resetting the top section directly across the tee box at the same height or close as the section we leave in the ground. No welding or screwing needed. Then cap the cut off section or fill with concrete. Very simple and fast. KISS method :D

OOOOHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhh!!!

keep it simple stupid

just gotta splain it!

I love it.!! But how about this. What about cutting the poles at 32 inches (closer to traditional and still low enough) while they are still in the ground and distance00 (jeff??) just adds the new sign on the top? No welding, screwing, or pouring concrete needed on the pole end of things. I dont know how Distance plans to mount the new signs but we are moving right along now. :DFaster and still effective. Thanks for starting off the idea train Rick. Distance, we need to hear your input! Can we have the signs ready if we get you the info ASAP?!?!?!?

Ideas about mounting the new signs are welcome.

allright ideas finalized!! then no more how about this!! just get it done from there!! :D:D:D:D

Hey buddy, you just keep werkin those 12's and gettin that college fund going! :cool:

Just got home from work... been real busy today... headin back in a few minutes. When you got some info for me to put on the new plates I'll get 'em ready.

You da man.

http://centxdglove.com/cathollow/brushycreekmudscorecard.jpg

here is the distance of each hole. It will give you something to start with.

Thanks again Joel Sims.

Does anyone have a range-finder? I'd like to see how some of those distances compare.

I agree, I say we measure ourselves before we dedicate...

i have a 300' tape measure you can use!!

I can get a measuring wheel for the weekend. That wheel looking thing that surveyors use to measure footage by walking along with. This would work really good. When I can get out there to do it would most likely be next weekend. Let me know if this time frame is acceptable. Can we get an updated schedule going of work to be done? I know there has been some changes to the original plan. Lets bring everyone up to speed.

hold up on distance........
Everything is a guessing game, except GPS. You already have distances on cards. That might I say are great. :D
So unless GPS is used....the wheel (score cards) has been invented :D

I agree, those distances seem fairly correct anyway. Just go out and conjur up some sketches of each hole and how you want 'em to look on the new faceplates.

Any certain way we need to cut the pole to benefit the way you are mounting the new tee signs? Angled, straight, or does it matter? Let us know. Do you believe 32" will be low enough with the tee signs or should we drop the measurement more to incorporate the height with the new tee sign?

Personally, I think we will have a lot more info after the walk thru with David. Remember, these guys have already put a lot of work into those markers, and their opinions will heavily weigh in to the direction we take.

if you look at the course designer thread there are pdga recomendations on this issue!!

Okay cool. I am scared that waiting on people will eventually bite us in the butt. I am pulling back. When we get something rolling let me know. I dont want to step on any toes so I am leaving it to you guys to figure what steps we will take and when to take them. Please do not come at me a week before with all this work to be done because the reality of it is, time is of the essence. I can help but I am not superman. Since the benches are not a priority and Efrain is working 12's there goes the tools, garage and help I was looking for to make that happen. What we need is someone to pull this together and make it happen. You got my number so give me a call when everything gets worked out. I will do what I can to help.

We are doing the walk thru today. PM me if you are interested in joining us.


The work day might have to be resheduled, at the MUD's reccomendation. I will no more this evening.

did you happen to check the pdga recomendations on the tee-sign issue josh??

breifly


any highlights you wanted to point out?

just the recommended location of the tee signs which is: about 5ft. to the side of the tee box and 3-5 ft back from the end. this will vary depending on the hole , of course!! this is from chuck kennedy!!

Good info Efrain

okay thanks! Found that link, and will take that info with me...

Even though the weather sucked, the walk thru was great! The two guys we met with, David and Allen (?) are the two that have done most of the work out there. We discussed lots of things, and they were receptive to almost all of it. Ricky and I will be drawing up a plan of attack, and send it to these guys, who will get the materials needed and get to work. They do not want to go out there with equipment for a while, unitl it dries out. They know when the TWC is, and they know we are ready to get this done- but they dont want their stuff tearing the course, or the equipment. Once we deliver the hole by hole list, they will contact us when they are ready to work. That will make it a little tough to schedule a work day- but I know I can count on lots of help from you guys and gals at the drop of a hat-right?

A couple of things:
They like their tee-signs. They do not want new covers put on them, and they do not want to shorten them. They will relocate the boxes for us, to more appropraite placements. The only one we think we will have to dig up is #6. Keep in mind that those posts are 5-8' in the ground. Yes thats right, feet. Many of the boxes will have granite dumped on them, and we will rake and level them out. #13 will have to be framed with some rocks a little, then the fill and level.
These guys are proud of their course, and very receptive to the whole disc golf thing. This is a great relationship, and will only get better. Stay tuned for updates.

NO WORK DAY FEB. 5TH! GO TO THE ZILKER ICE BOWL!

lol...5-8 feet in the ground you gotta be joking, that is ridiculous. I guess I don't need to make any new tee signs :( I could of made some really sweet looking tee signs :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(










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So the work day is cancelled because you want it to dry out first? What about stuff like picking up trash, moving rocks out of tee boxes( much easier to do in soft wet ground), and light trimming of trees and bushes?

nice work josh!!! sounds like some great resources are being developed!! :D:D

What about stuff like picking up trash, moving rocks out of tee boxes



KT this can be done anytime not just on workdays! The other things sounds like the MUD/HUD? folks wat to be invovled

Good job Josh for working so hard on this. Thanks to all the guys that have commited to the clean up to Cat Hollow. We appreciate it.

thanks guys- but I have not done a lot yet. Ed laid the ground work, and Ricky was out there too!
Sorry Jeff- I am sure you could make some great signs- but honestly, there is really nothing wrong with the signs that are there now. These guys are proud of the hard work they have put into the course, and don't want to make any drastic changes- especially their signs.

The MUD is the ones who requested we reschedule the work day. They will be doing the bulk of the work, and they use heavy equipment. We have 2 months to work with, so we should be okay as far as time frames. I, for one, an very thankful these guys want to take that load off of us.
David will be picking up trash barrels from Ed very soon, so trash sould not be as big of a problem as in the past. As cDub said, feel free to pick up trash every time you are there. As for rocks, they will pick up the large ones for us. THen we will get granite fill to spread over the top.
IF you think of other improvements you would like to see out there, we can include them in our list and see what they think.
This is all good stuff, and will only get better. Once they see how recpetive the golfers are of thier efforts, they will be even more willing to help in the future- but really, there is not a lot more we could ask of them right now...

Yea, the tee signs were set with a hole ram pounding the rock that they kept hitting untill the holes were a min. 3' deep and then they punched a hole with the stinger on the hole ram a couple more feet, set the pipe in, plumb, fill hole with concrete. I don't think we could pull them out with a bobcat. There solution was to move the tee boxes away from them. They will provide all the crushed granite we need and do any major tree trimming, we in return will supply labor to fill and level the boxes. Crushed granite is what they use for all there trails, great stuff. As Josh said they are more than willing to help out and even said they were going to mow a week or so before the TWC so the course would be looking good.

any ideas on the boxes?? sounds interesting!! need more thumber holes!!lol :D

Do you think there will be drastic changes? If we were to come play this month, would it be about the same for the TWC? I know the tee boxes will change, but will it change the shots or lines much? I know its kind of soon to know but from the talk you had with the park guys, what do yall think?

probably no drastic changes!! should pretty much be the same!! you should definately play some before the tourney!! knowing the lines makes a big difference!! you got a thumber nelle?? :D

In case of emergencys I have had to use it. But I know someone who can teach me how to throw one. :D

start practicing!!

In case of emergencys I have had to use it. But I know someone who can teach me how to throw one. :D



who, guns? :p

A 200' but fairly accurate thumber is a great weapon on this course. If you dont have that- be accurate on your drives.

No major changes- all the lines will stay the same, and its basically how we play now- the boxes will just be in better shape when we are done.

hey vinnie , are there any plans for food yet??

In case of emergencys I have had to use it. But I know someone who can teach me how to throw one. :D



Two weeks from now, she's gonna be booming thumbers. :)
Be afraid, be very afraid.

crushed granite? whats the scoop? Just spoke to our leadman and he can have a load of crushed rock delivered. Is the granite for certain? What to do, what to do.

I am working the food thing ....why?
And if new tee boxes are to be redesigned.
Keep in mind the tee box makes the hole......so insure there are good lines....
Now that a few expenses have been taking care of, I am happy to announce
$ AT LEAST 200 ADDED TO THE PRO PAYOUT $

Not redesigned- slightly altered- we are basically moving them to where we normally throw from.

M- They have all the granite we need, and that is what they want to use, since it is already all over the course- keeps things consistant. I don't think we will need anymore fill- I will let you know for sure when i hear back from them, but if you have to make a call, i would say pass on it for now...Thanks for the efforts though- just cause we dont use it does not mean its not appreciated!!

So there are a lot of trees you are saying? Or very tight fairways? Yall are scaring me with the thumber thing. I guess I will see it when I play it. Do yall have minis out there on the weekends? It looks like the LOLO's might have to do a traveling Ladies Day to Cat Hollow.

10-4,,,,,,might be pushing the loads over towards Twin Parks as I was informed they would have a use for it. Things sound like they are moving along great.

Sorry about the confusion in the time frame. I could of swore TWC was in march. Ima tard, it happens.

We could have a mini for sure. Just let us know when you will be coming in and I know N for sure will be there. I think we might be playing this weekend but we are not early birds like some people. Especially in the colder months, we like it to warm up a little before we start drinking......I mean playing :D

I am sure we would not mind giving up the living room if you gals wanted a place to stay.

twin parks got the money to take care of itself.
The Rock could use some rock....

Cat Hollow is tight and you don't want to get off the fairways.
The course is relativly short. A thumber can be a good shot but if you miss the fairway....your pitch out.
I would say a good straight shot will serve you better than a maybe thumber

MMMMMMMMM what to do. I am calling Park in an hour. Better let me know V-man.

So there are a lot of trees you are saying? Or very tight fairways? Yall are scaring me with the thumber thing. I guess I will see it when I play it. Do yall have minis out there on the weekends? It looks like the LOLO's might have to do a traveling Ladies Day to Cat Hollow.



let us know when you can make it!! guided tour will be available!! :D

Thanks guys. I will let you know for sure.

no problem!!!!

We will be at the kitty all day today.

you are not going to the ice bowl??

No Ice bowl. We are gonna be at Twin Parks next weekend though. You going? It should be a great time. Just played casual golf and practiced the putts for the Lago mini tomarow. Played a couple of rounds of doubles with my better half to warm up for Texas Am Dubs. Played pretty good. Finished with a 54. I feel we will do very well together in the Rec division. :D

The course is looking great! The MUD has spread granite on tee boxes 1-5. There have been at least 4 trash barrels put out on the course. #5 has been worked pretty good, just a few trees cut back and now the box is in good shape. Mulch has been spread around several baskets. #13 has been improved big time- the box has been built up and framed out with large rocks, filled with granite and leveled. It is not 100% level, but it is 100 times better then what it was. Seems they stopped after #5 (except #13) and I am sure the will continue to work as the weather should cooperate for a while. We're getting there!

Thanks for all the work guys. The Ladies Of Live Oak will be taking a road trip to Cat Hollow on March 5 to check out the course. I am assuming there will not be much traffic out there because of the events in Round Rock and Georgetown. We should get there around 10am. Cant wait to see it.

right on Nix good work.

David from the MUD just called and apologized that he did not get with us to help them work.:p He said with their equipment already out there to dump the granite, it is just easier for them to go ahead and spread it. He said they will be back out there today spreading more. I told him we sure dont mind them doing the work, but we dont want to take advatage of them. What he wants from us is 2 trash days, as we get closer to the event. I told him no problem- we will get the volunteers in line and ger er done. I think Vinnie and I will get a couple of Saturday or Sundays lined out, and they will meet us with a couple of polarises and we will make a complete sweep of the course- including the greenbelt between the holes...

If anyone wanted to send a Thank You note or email to the MUD district, I think it would help with what we have going on here. I will go back and get that contact info later in the day.

right on Nix good work.



ditto!! :D

yup!!! Played the kitty yesterday and what a difference!! I was so impressed with hole 13!! It is so much better to drive from now! Thank you!!! :D:D

must go see!!

anyone have any idea when we should start the thurs. mini back up!! i think it gets dark at about 6;30 or so! if started at 4 , that gives ample time!! suggestions or comments!!

hmmmm, getting close

You know I cant make it to the parking lot till 5:20, but I'm always down.

hmmmm, getting close



thats what i was thinking!!

whatever you want to do!

i have all those lights i got from v man too

Night golf would be off the chain here in a little while after the last fronts move through.

might be an option!! or an occasional night mini to mix it up a bit!!

just got done walking around out there......What an improvement!!!!!!!!!!
lots of work has already happened.
#8&13 tee boxes are 100% better
It is shaping up to be a great add to the Round Rock area.
We need to plan some trash pick up days (2) and I will be making requests of everyone when the time comes. The guys with the machine need to add more tee box to the back of tee#6 and a natural crossing for #3 and #5. The work needs to lean to cosmetic at this point. (rock paths, removing big rocks from faiways and such) I want to thank all for what has happened already.


I am nick pick now....the hard stuff is already done.

:cool: :D

i am all for a trash pick-up /dg day!! sat afternoons and sundays are the best for me.what i am saying is those are the times that i am available to help and i want to help!!

Sunday Efrain,,,bring your weenie arm, some discs and some beer and I'll bring the trash bags, some discs, some beer and your asss whooping in my bag!!! Oh yeah,, my other half says He wants some too!! :D:D:D:p :p

Sunday Efrain,,,bring your weenie arm, some discs and some beer and I'll bring the trash bags, some discs, some beer and your asss whooping in my bag!!! Oh yeah,, my other half says He wants some too!! :D:D:D:p :p



how much we playing for???

Depends,,,,how much you gonna be drinking??!!! :D:D:p :p

you bring my beer and we will play for as much as you can afford!!! :Di don't think i have ever played there sober!! haha

be carefull Efi. I am liking my sidewinder these days. Over drove hole 4 by at least 60 feet. Man I am liking this new disc. Bring your wallet!

always carry the wallet and dg money!!

Sunday should be a good day to golf so lets cross out fingers.

i thoght it was going to rain all weekend!!

Sunday after noon has 75% cloud cover after noon and 40% chance of showers. I think if it rains it will only sprinkle. Dont be a nansy pansy.

lets talk money and see who is a pansy!! bring it!! dollar skins and 20 overall!! what you got!! don't be afraid to raise it!!

LMFAO!!!!! thats hysterical!! I don't want to be a nansy pansy,,,I'll be there and bring your own beer Efrain, I know how much you drink!!!! :p :p :p

right.
Mmmmmm may have to go dollar skins at 18 holes. We should have more people on the card as well. If you want to go head to head we can do that to ya NANSY!

money talks!! so keep talkin pansy!! so mikes buying my beer AYE!! he just doesn't realize it yet!!

Oh thats sure is optimistic there Efi! I gotta commend you there but I think you better take a second glance. I have a new bag and watched some DG movies so my karate will be very GOOD Danielson. :D

still funny!! does that mean the bet has been raised??? don't be scared!! come on smack boy!!

whats really gonna be funny is when you two are driving the hell outta your upshots and gettin in the tree's,,,I'll be putting for par! :p :p

You just dieing to give away that Over Time money huh. I think I will leave some room in your pockets to pay your bills.

if your so confident , LETS RAISE THE BET!!!!!

Shark! ;)

your the one calling people out!! i am simply calling you back!! your not scared are you?? putt the money where your mouth is!!

Fool, I been telling you cmon. I gots mine, wheres yours?

**** boys settle down and settle this one on the course. Wish i could be a part of that but got a date in vic. Matter fact about to boogie but just so you guys know i'm down any time for money rounds.

What time is this SKINS match going down Sunday???

Fool, I been telling you cmon. I gots mine, wheres yours?



yo , if you want to go head to head at cat hollow against me one on one I WILL GO UP TO 100!! seriously!! don't bite off more than you can chew there mikey!!!!

Man you've lost it. I've already called you a shark what else do you want? Now your showing it. :mad:I will get mine. You will get yours. We will have fun, and thats what matters. I like budweiser. :D

When the sun decides to show its face. :cool:probably 2 oclock if no sign of the firey star by then. I think the weather will clear up and the sun will burn through this crap by then. Fingers crossed. If not oh well.

Man you've lost it. I've already called you a shark what else do you want? Now your showing it. :mad:I will get mine. You will get yours. We will have fun, and thats what matters. I like budweiser. :D



so what no bet????

Now I did'nt say no bet did I?

2 oclock sounds good to me..I have beer and cash, need more of both.. Lets play!!!

bring on the sun!!

The sun just might make an appearance today and I see no rain on the radar at all. Looks like conditions will be pretty close to playing indoors with a humid 75 degree 13mph fan blowing on you. I still dont see the wind they are claiming is out there. Looks like with the exception of a couple slick spots it will be a great day to disc.

fingers crossed!! dry sun dry!!

The sun is peaking its head out. I figured she would burn through all this haze and make an appearance today. Looks like it will be partly cloudy and maybe if we get lucky, the back side of that cloud cover will make it over our heads to reveal full sunshine.

:D

*****. :)

BAM!!!!

****!!! Efrain handed Grunion his asss yesterday in style!!!! :p

we knew that would happen...

how bad was it?

where you go josh.
I seen you like 10 min. all weekend.
I look around and you are out of there

I took a stupid 4 on hole 9!! putting for 2 from about 35 deep in the cactus , i barely miss high and then miss my 20 ft. comeback!! i was ****** !! grunions only 2 skins!!
me 16
grunion 2

:D:D

sherri and marcus are playing cat hollow (warmin up for the TWC)as I type

courses is looking good vinnie!!! 13's t-box is fixed!! #6 tee sign is gone!! trash pick-up and nit picking still need to be done!! :D

Speaking of hole 9. This is the hole that from the regular teebox the shot is a straight one, but there's some alternate teebox that turns it into a righty hyzer shot. Why did someone feel the need to make this alternate teebox? I don't get it.

V i was hanging with the old crew a lil bit...sorry ya missed me!!

Johne that idear was scrapped. The original box is what we will stick with.

Way to go Efi!! Put the mouth in his place!! I noticed he has not been on the board since then!! :o

right!!! :D:D:D:D:p :p :p

silly boy!!! :D

we need tee box 6 longer

what do you have in mind?? as of now , it would have to be completely moved in order to extend it!!

yes, vinnie I need more explanation then that. remember, boxes have not been flagged yet- i know you and Hellman want to participate in that... The idea behind moving the tee sign was so the original box can stay where it is- only the marker is set way behind the actual box...

i personally think that box is fine now that the tee sign is out of the way!! nice short finese hole!! anyone going out today???

#6?
I just don't want to see the hole turned into a big hyzer.
To mark the tee back to avoid that there needs to been more gravel. so there is not a step up.

with the post gone , the box can simply be marked wherever you want it. it could be flagged where we played it in the mini, and that pretty much eliminates the hyzer!!

anyone going out today????

Ok biatches. I been busy all day. I had my missed putts to Efrain. How many pushes? I think it was a fun game overall but thanks for your input M_N_N. How about that 60 foot putt on 4 that pushed that hole. That was sweet. I get a big applause from the people standing around but no mention from M_N_N. Mmmmmm just my anus handed to me??? Thats so wrong. Anytime you want to go again Efi.

hey Vinnie, how about making the hole a thumber? :D

..... I know shut my donkey :confused:

hey, i never bragged about my game. i just responded to your challenge.i actually think i played fair at best.i think i gave you the biggest applause when you made a good shot!! thats just the way i play !! on another note.. when is a good day for you and can we play for a bit more stakes next time. that did'nt quite cover the 12 pack!!! burb!!!
lmfao!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i want in on somma that!!

sure, and we can call it a mini with an ace pot !!All are welcome !! Hell we can even advertise!!! freakin time change!!!!

12 pack? Man you did'nt even stick around to drink it with us? You played fair and I played well. It was fun to finally have a nice open course to throw with you on. Nix, get some of this action. It is fun and brings out the best in my game. Although I dont know about raising the stakes. If you had won all 18 maybe that would have covered your 12. HEHEHE. When is the mini gonna start again?

Grunion, I thought you were running it? so when's it start? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :eek:

:oHey now, did I ever say that? Well at least if I ran it I would never be late. :DI think Efrain was saying something about running one, right Efi???

I DONT THINK ANY ONE PERSON SHOULD BE STUCK WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF RUNNING THIS EVERY SINGLE WEEK, UNLESS SOMEONE CHOOSES TO DO SO. AS WE ENDED LAST YEAR, WE HAD A GOOD CORE GROUP THAT PARTICIPATED IN THIS MINI VERY REGULAR.WHEN MARTIN COULD NO LONGER RUN IT RICKY , JOSH ,CHRIS W AND MYSELF ALL HELPED OUT AND TRIED TO COORDINATE WEEK BY WEEK. i HAVE NO PROBLEM HELPING , HOWEVER I CAN NOT MAKE IT EVERY TIME. PROBABLY 3 OUT OF FOUR I WILL MAKE!!! :D