FlynHighDiscGolf.com 2006 Texas State
Disc Golf Championships

All Divisions on the Same Weekend!
April 22-23, 2006
3 Championship Courses
All at Tom Bass Complex
Two Saturday Rounds of 18 with
Sunday Tee Times for the final round of 27
For more information
Call Gimp at 713-728-3393
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.texasstates.org (http://www.texasstates.org)

Special events at the tournament!
The Hunt for Wilmont�s $100 Treasure! Arrrggh!
Land in the Houston Star and Win $100
Black Gold Stamped Soft Challenger to all players! + Players Pack Goodies!
Ball Golf � Disc Golf Challenge: Free! Compete by invite only
DDC Competition: $20 team adv'd / $10 team rookies
Let-It-Fly / Distance Accuracy Competition:$10 pros / $5 ams
Fastest Shot Competition: Free!
Table Tennis Challenge (Subject To Change):$5
FlyMart Table: $20 per day (Sat, Sun or both)
Speed Golf Competition: $10 For details contact Lyle Ross: [email protected]
Pre-Registration NOT Necessary for the above events
Tourney Course: New Layout Holes 3-8, See texasstates.org

Friday Pick-Partner Doubles: Pro $21 per Player / Ams $16 per Player
Register Friday 2pm-4pm / Flex start � $1 per Player Goes to The Houston Food bank

Important Notes: There are no guaranteed spots for morning sign ups, so sign up early! Players meeting at 9:00 am, Saturday. PDGA membership required of all Pro and Advanced disc golf competitors. All other disc golf competitors who are not PDGA members (except Juniors) shall be required to pay a $5 non-member fee. Each $90 entry to the FPO (Women�s Open) Division includes a $25 sponsorship from HFDS, so the payout will be based on $115 entry per player. You must be a registered disc golf competitor to enter Table Tennis Challenge. All other ancillary events are open to the
public! Check www.texasstates.org (http://www.texasstates.org) for further information regarding registration restrictions, tournament details, etc.

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2006 FlynHighDiscGolf.com Texas States Fees & Entry Form:
_____ $115* - Pro Open [MPO]
_____ $90* - All Pro Women [FPO�, FPM]
_____ $90* - All Age Protected Pro Open [MPM, MPG]
_____ $59* - Advanced Open [MA1]
_____ $59* - Advanced Women [FW1]
_____ $59* - All Age Protected Adv. Open [MM1, MG1]
_____ $48 - Intermediate Open [MA2]
_____ $48 - Intermediate Women [FW2]
_____ $38 - Recreational Open [MA3]
_____ $38 - Recreational Women [FW3]
_____ $25 - All Juniors [MJ1/2/3/4, FJ1/2/3/4]
(*You must be current PDGA member. �FPO payout based on $115 entry fee. See Important Notes Above)

_____ $5 - Non-PDGA Member Fee
_____ $10 - Late Fee (after April 17)
_____ $5 - Ace Pot (optional0
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HUGE THANK YOU TO RICK BANNISTER AND FlynHighDiscGolf.com for stepping up to be the title sponsor - Texas States is going to be GREAT this year.

Titledisc.com will be up in a couple of days.

Table Tennis sounds cool. So, who plays? Anyone any good? :)

No clue, that one is not my deal lol :D

Bump!

Titledisc is up - http://www.titledisc.com/Events/FlynHighDiscGolf.com_2006_TXStates.php

You want to sign up early for this one. With the added LSS payout and NT status for pros it will fill fast, esp. on the AM side!

Just got word (no details yet though) that Texas States this year is going to be a USDGC qualifier!

Wow! This is great news! A great way to kick off the new season!

We'll be posting details as soon as they are available! :D

All NT events are USDGC qualifiers. :confused:

Yes I think that is right Easy. Reg.'s are rolling in. Don't miss out on getting in, esp. if you are an AM. Remember there are two more chances to qualify for the bonus payout from the LSS to be paid at States. Powell next weekend and Pecan Park April 1/2. Pecan should be HUGE this year! :D

Early reg list...

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5455#Masters

I will most likely sign up this weekend. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

We had the first batch of shirts and discs available for sale at The Moffitt Show this weekend! Wow! The logo came out fantastic and really, really looked sharp! It looks better on the black shirts than on the white ones.

Susan also had a batch of custom tie-dyed white ones that came out very well too.

I'm holding out to see what the Incolor discs look like, and will probably give one of my white shirts to Susan and have her tie-dye it.

We sold a bunch of the discs we had displayed, and about 6-7 tees as well. This is going to be classic logo!

Please start thinking about getting your registration in early...you aren't going to want to miss States this year...there's lots of local buzz around town so we are expecting a high turnout rate.

Check out the logo on the website for Texas States at: Texas States website (http://www.texasstates.org/)

Hit TitleDisc at this URL: Texas States Online registration. (http://www.titledisc.com/Events/FlynHighDiscGolf.com_2006_TXStates.php)

33 are now in... http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5455#Open

This sucks; I was planning on playing Texas States this year for the first time in over 7 years dang it. Dallas (my son) is bridging that Saturday from Cub Scouts to Boy Scouts. That is something that I had better not skip. The Cub Scout pack usually does this on Athens weekend. (Why I have not gone the last few years and why I only ran it once) I just now noticed that Athens was moved and Texas States was put in on this weekend.

Oh well, maybe next year.

Oh man Pizza!!! I thought you were finally going to make one of these things!

I understand the family committment thing, but I sure am sorry to read that you aren't going to make it this year! This is one to catch for sure!

38 in - - States: http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5481#Open

Pools as they Stand - don't miss your chance to play at States this year! :D

<table border="1"><tr><td> Divisions</td><td></td><td>Pool</td><td>Current</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO/FPO</td><td>A</td><td>72</td><td>4</td><td>Note: 24 spots to be held for PDGA Touring Card Players until April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM/FPM/MPG/MA1</td><td>B</td><td>72</td><td>14</td><td>May be adjusted on April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1/MM1/MG1/MA2/FW2/MA3/FW3</td><td>C</td><td>72</td><td>20</td><td>May be adjusted on April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>All Jr</td><td>D</td><td>16</td><td>0</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Pool A: Only pool to qualify for USDGA*</td><td></td><td>232</td><td>38</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

so is the hotel deal still the crappy one? or has there been an update?

What kind of food are you guys gonna have out at the park this year?
&
Whats the word on the Beir Garden?

We are still working on food, but as soon as we get it squared away, we'll let you all know. Any comments on what you'd like to see from the chef?

And the garden party is on.

The discs are selling like crazy! I carted 5 more up to the Snow Farm last weekend and sold all 5 by Saturday night, and had players asking me for more!

There is a good buzz going about for this event, and I'm encouraging all of our local players to register in advance for this tourney. Do it online TODAY!!! With fixed size pools, the Ams are the ones most likely to get squeezed out of this tournament! Online registration for Texas States can be handled at: TitleDisc Texas States registration! (http://www.titledisc.com/Events/FlynHighDiscGolf.com_2006_TXStates.php)

This is going to be one wild west shoot-out! There are a lot of really cool "extras" floating around this event.

Signed up yesterday and still not showing up?

Signed up yesterday and still not showing up?



The players list is probably only updated every several days or so... Given that the tourney is still more than a month out.

I'm really looking forward to this event, it's hard to believe that the last time I played Texas States was in 2003. :(

I'm signed up. Can't wait to play in my first PDGA sanctioned tournament. I have no idea what my rating is and I'd like to get an idea, so that's going to be interesting.

My last Texas State was in 81, in Austin at Waterloo.

Sounds like it's gonna fill for sure! Hope ur ready for a bunch of whiners that didn't sign up on time!! We just went through that in Victoria. I better get mine sent in this week! Can't wait for this one, it oughta be a blast. I'll be in Beaumont working then, so it's not that far for me to drive. See you all there..

Not far a drive Jay? Heh, it's almost not far a walk. You won't be spending any money on hotels, that's for sure. An hour drive, tops.

Depending on contractor traffic and what time I drive. It has taken up to 3 hours to get to Houston from Beaumont before. Just can't drive during those hours!!!! I'll probably stay in Houston anyway.

Updated list. Titledisc takes a few days...

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5846#Open

<table border="1"><tr><td>Divisions</td><td></td><td>Pool</td><td>Current</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO/FPO</td><td>A</td><td>72</td><td>4</td><td>Note: 24 spots to be held for PDGA Touring Card Players until April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM/FPM/MPG/MA1</td><td>B</td><td>72</td><td>19</td><td>May be adjusted on April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1/MM1/MG1/MA2/FW2/MA3/FW3</td><td>C</td><td>72</td><td>23</td><td>May be adjusted on April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>All Jr</td><td>D</td><td>16</td><td>0</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Pool A: Only pool to qualify for USDGA*</td><td></td><td>232</td><td>46</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

8 more pre-registrations added! Good deal.

Those Advanced Masters better get theirs in pretty soon though...that pool is almost 1/3 full already! C'mon guys, get off the fence and get those registrations in! Pat? You reading this?

Add one more to that Pool...just signed up on Titledisc a few moments ago.

Good to hear it Robbie! It wouldn't hardly be States without you! :D Same thing with Sandalman in Masters!

How many poker players have we got comin' in for Texas States?

We are going to host a little poker on the Friday night before States. Folks that are coming in from out of town can check into their hotel and then scoot over here and do a little "power relaxing" before heading into competition the next morning. Last fall, we had about 8 disc golfers over here - I think one of the Readings may have ended up in the cash line for that one... :D

We had enough fun with it to do it again. If you are interested, please let me know in advance so we know how many to start planning for. We'll run one tournament at an easy $10 buy in, and probably have a cash game on the side.

It should be a good way to unwind after your travel into town (or even if you're already in town! :D) We'll knock off at about 10:30 so everyone can get plenty of sleep before the tournament.

PM me if you're interested, and I'll get you directions and a phone number.

We've got at least 5 players for poker so far...

Add one more for poker - comin' in from Austin. We can accommodate 30-32 players...many more for just plain relaxing! :D

Texas States has had a bad "rap" for weather. Okay...maybe it was deserved when we held it in September, but I'm a HUGE fan of having it moved to the springtime now!

Below are a few weather facts that I've culled from some Internet searches...April has the 3rd lowest average precipitation of the year with February and March being the two lowest average precipitation months.

Although the wildflowers are just now starting to come out in a few places, I would expect that we'll still have plenty of wildflower colors on display when April 22nd rolls around.

Here's the weather info:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Houston April Weather Factoids</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Average High</td><td>79
</td></tr><tr><td>Average Low </td><td>61
</td></tr><tr><td>Average Precip.</td><td>3.46 inches
</td></tr><tr><td>Record High</td><td>94
</td></tr><tr><td>Record Low</td><td>22
</td></tr><tr><td>Sunrise on 4/22/2006</td><td>6:48 a.m.
</td></tr><tr><td>Sunset on 4/22/2006</td><td>7:52 p.m.
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

I particularly like the 72 degree variation between the record high and record low!

It is still going to have biblical rain sorry.

We are one month away from tournament day...we currently stand at 46 entrants officially registered and several that I know are coming in that haven't registered yet.

We are going to have a few World Champions coming to H-town for this gig by the sounds of it. Des Reading - #1 Women's Open Champion, Dave Feldberg - #1 USDGC Men's Champion, Avery Jenkins - #1 Distance Champion, and Yeti Reading #1 Putting Champion. I haven't heard any word from many others yet, but I've got to imagine that most everyone is thinking about how pleasant it's going to be playing Texas States in April this year! Ha! Bring it on!

Preliminary Schedule of events:
Friday:
Ball golf/Disc golf Charity Challenge (morning 9am-ish)
Doubles at Tom Bass. (After noon...)
Double Disc Court exhibition challenge (Late afternoon)
Registration taken during doubles.
Speed Golf competition.
Texas States Hold'em Championship. (8pm - 10:30pm)

Saturday:
Texas States Player's Meeting (9:30-ish)
Round 1 tee-off (10am)
Lunch (approximately 12:30 - 2:00)
Round 2 tee-off (very approximate 2-2:30-ish)
Fly-mart (5pm until park closes at dark)
Guts - Fastest throw exhibition (6pm-ish)
Double Disc Court (DDC) Match. (TBA)
Sunday morning tee times posted.

Sunday:
Round 3 - 27 hole Finals (Starting at 7:30-ish)
Fly-mart during the day until awards.
Awards ceremony (approximately 2:30pm)

Please remember that this is a preliminary schedule and you should check the www.TexasStates.org website (http://www.texasstates.org/) or the PDGA Tour website (http://www.pdgatour.com/) for the "official" schedule information.

If I get the ok to get out of school I will make every single field/Misc event possible including;

Friday:
Ball golf/Disc golf Charity Challenge
Doubles at Tom Bass.
Double Disc Court exhibition challenge
Registration taken during doubles.
Speed Golf competition.
POker

And just for you KrazyEye -

Record rainfall on April 22 was 1.78 inches (hell that's just a sprinkling :D) in 1949!!!

LoL!!!

Scooter - we'll make sure that we stock plenty of booze for you just before we start playing poker again! :D

Yeah that's REAL funny. :D

Sorry Matt - wasn't even sure you'd remember that last game! Ha-ha! :D

Ha Ha :confused:

A couple world dub champs will be there.
How do we get our name on the ball golf thingy? That feller in the club house needs a good lashing :D

Probably more than just a couple of world doubles champs.

Can anyone provide some more info on the DDC competition? I would love to play but need to know about partners etc.

Also info about the Table Tennis please.

Thanks
Chris :cool:

I may be able to play depending on if I can get out of school on friday.

Just remember in DDC the idea is either to smash the disc into the opponent or stick it in the square, not throw it 500 feet away. :D

Can you burn? Can you catch a burn?

5 time OKIE state champ at DDC, and never lost a match in Massachucets with a first time player that happened to be a girl. So I'll take all you suckas on in DDC. I'll just find a bum from downtown H-Town to be my partner and we will WIN!

BEEEEEEEELIEVE IT! :D

Okie Champ vs Aussie Champ....bring it on :D

Friday is pickup DDC. Don't know if Saturday is BYOP or Random Draw.

Boy, after I get done with you, we'll be able to play tic-tac-toe on your chest. There will be a perfect grid of red marks on your chest from my 100mph+ burn :p


hahahahahahaaha

what is double disc court and how is it played??

what is double disc court and how is it played??


DDC (http://www.doubledisccourt.com/)

Only played once, and I dove more often that I ever did in a weekend of Ultimate.

I will rip the nails from your fingers, that is if I decide to aim at you. I may just decide to leave you flat footed on the line. :D

I will rip the nails from your fingers, that is if I decide to aim at you. I may just decide to leave you flat footed on the line. :D



Aussie smack is serious business...

Also info about the Table Tennis please.

Thanks
Chris :cool:



Yes, I'm wondering the same thing. Larry, where has the table tennis table(s) been in the past? Cause I'm ready for anybody. Does everyone know that an "official" game is now played to only 11 points? Could get a bit windy outdoors playing "ping pong". :)

Dude I will be catching your weak tosses with my teeth. Might even do the ole toothbrush tooth stall freestyle move, while I'm waiting for my 200 foot lob shot to come down to double yourass up!

BEEEEEEEEELIEVE IT! :D

Now that is funny. :D Last time I tried a tooth stall I sliced my lips open. I will be watching the 200 foot lobs for angles while you are trying to stop your nails from bleeding.

Who else wants to line up in front of Kev and I? It is DDC right and not guts? :D

Table Tennis outside is not too much fun. Where are we playing?

Sorry guys - but I don't have any information about a table-tennis match.

The DDC is another matter although I'm not the organizer of it. I will get more solid details from Stephen about it, and I'm going to try and sell Stimpy on being a referee for the Australia/Oklahoma match-up at least! :D

The Guts exhibition is intended to be a World Record attempt to catch the fastest throw. Nez is going to be on the receiving end of those tosses! :D (I'm just going to be out there with a video camera trying to capture it!)

The DDC is another matter although I'm not the organizer of it. I will get more solid details from Stephen about it, and I'm going to try and sell Stimpy on being a referee for the Australia/Oklahoma match-up at least! :D

The Guts exhibition is intended to be a World Record attempt to catch the fastest throw. Nez is going to be on the receiving end of those tosses! :D (I'm just going to be out there with a video camera trying to capture it!)



Tell Easy to get those courts ready for some serious action :eek: cuz the Aussie and Okie are about to talk each other apart here :o:D:cool:

Nez???? World Record Catch? He couldn't catch a cold standing barefoot in 2 feet of snow.....j/k :D

You guys are starting to get me VERY excited about this event. :D

How is this Distance Comp going to be run!! Is it also Accuracy????
FLYINHIGHDISCGOLF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will try to sell Nez on the 5 throws for $5 and you can keep buying back in. Might go 5 for $10 though. :D

It is not a pure distance event for sure...

I should be. Robbie it will most likely be on the crcket field by powell #1

Nope...I think I heard that the distance throws will be from the top of the hill on Wilmont #16. We should call it "Flying High and Flying Far Fling Competition."

Not enough room and too many trees. Believe me I have put them in 17's faiway and these guys throw farther then me. Its usually a headwind too. :confused:

sign me up for some DDC and also BIG D Comp.

A birdy just told me that one of those guys that makes a living in this sport just signed up....

New list - - up to 58

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5846#Open

Two of the four 1030+ rated players in the world say, "Come and get some"

<table border="1"><tr><td> Divisions</td><td></td><td>Pool</td><td>Current</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO/FPO</td><td>A</td><td>72</td><td>8</td><td>Note: 24 spots to be held for PDGA Touring Card Players until April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM/FPM/MPG/MA1</td><td>B</td><td>72</td><td>25</td><td>May be adjusted on April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1/MM1/MG1/MA2/FW2/MA3/FW3</td><td>C</td><td>72</td><td>25</td><td>May be adjusted on April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>All Jr</td><td>D</td><td>16</td><td>0</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Pool A: Only pool to qualify for USDGA*</td><td></td><td>232</td><td>58</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Man, that smak can not go unchallenged! Bring on anything you can throw Alice. I would bet you can't break 65 mph throwing a guts disc (record is 73 mph). And I KNOW you don't want a piece of what I am throwing.

Nez
playing guts since 1978 all around the world
and looking for buttery golf shots like that Okie brand

Table Tennis is in jeopardy, but I haven't given up yet. The host hotel, Hampton Inn, had a room they were giving us for Saturday night, and I have a portable table to move in there. But looks like the room is booked for a training class, and alternatives are slim. I am checking to see if the room can be free'd up, but no guarantees at this point.

Put your paddles in your bag just in case!

Add em up right now, and we've got a lot of talent coming in for States. That I know of, there are 5 World/National Title holders so far...(of course I'm considering Feldberg as one of them...)

This was actually fun looking at...

Dave Feldberg - USDGC Champion
Des Reading - Worlds (3 or 4 time winner now?)
Jay Reading - World Doubles and USDGC Putting Champ
Avery Jenkins - USDGC Distance Champ
De'atra Edwards - Am Women's Master
Vinnie Miller - World Doubles Master Champ
Barry Schultz - Worlds Champ (2 time)

Am I missing anyone with World or US title that's signed up so far?

If Coda comes back again this year with Kev, then we'll also have last year's States Champion too! There's gonna be some mighty fine disc golf talent out there.

Seems odd that we don't have many Masters signed up yet...1 in Pro and 2 in Advanced. Wassup masters?

Hey, FYI this is also a Junior friendly event! We will run juniors on 18 holes in between rounds on Saturday, and then then play 18 holes at 8am on Sunday to finish while the rest play 27 on tee times. We always have cool stuff for Juniors.

And Pro Open Women's entry is only $90, while payout will be based on $110 [Texas States is funding the difference!]

Come and Get Some!

SeeWhere/Vinnie - is Round Rock going to post a bounty for a duece on the Dragon again this year?

I will talk with the club tonight about that and let you know. I am thinking YES but need to talk with the others first.,

Add em up right now, and we've got a lot of talent coming in for States. That I know of, there are 5 World/National Title holders so far...(of course I'm considering Feldberg as one of them...)

This was actually fun looking at...

Dave Feldberg - USDGC Champion
Des Reading - Worlds (3 or 4 time winner now?)
Jay Reading - World Doubles and USDGC Putting Champ
Avery Jenkins - USDGC Distance Champ
De'atra Edwards - Am Women's Master
Vinnie Miller - World Doubles Master Champ
Barry Schultz - Worlds Champ (2 time)

Am I missing anyone with World or US title that's signed up so far?

If Coda comes back again this year with Kev, then we'll also have last year's States Champion too! There's gonna be some mighty fine disc golf talent out there.

Seems odd that we don't have many Masters signed up yet...1 in Pro and 2 in Advanced. Wassup masters?



Me and Dee won World mixed dubs and so did Jay and Des :D

Thanks for the correction Matt! I thought that you had a World title of some kind, but wasn't sure...

For sure, there is a lot of talent coming in (or staying here) for this one.

Hey, FYI this is also a Junior friendly event! We will run juniors on 18 holes in between rounds on Saturday, and then then play 18 holes at 8am on Sunday to finish while the rest play 27 on tee times. We always have cool stuff for Juniors.




Hey, Dave. Jarred and I will be playing States and are looking forward to it. We won't miss his Sunday morning tee time this time! :D Your son will be playing?

So, do you have the ping pong table and were gonna load it in a truck and bring it to the hotel? That would be so cool if that worked out, cause I've got serious game!!! :D But I don't currently own a paddle.

For sure, there is a lot of talent coming in (or staying here) for this one.




Don't know if i fall into this category anymore, but i plan on supporting HOUSTON's NT event! Looking for a place to stay........ PM me if you have floor space. :p

Dee and I also hold World Adv. Ladies Doubles Title, so I guess she's got three current titles to her credit. Go Girl!

Who else is in for some poker on Friday night. Figuring we'll have everyone get here around 7:30 or so, start at 8 and be done by 10:30 - that way folks will have plenty of time to get some beauty rest. :D Send me a PM or e-mail if you're in and want directions.

List is updated http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5846#Open

<table border="1"><tr><td> Divisions</td><td></td><td>Pool</td><td>Current</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO/FPO</td><td>A</td><td>72</td><td>9</td><td>Note: 24 spots to be held for PDGA Touring Card Players until April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM/FPM/MPG/MA1</td><td>B</td><td>72</td><td>28</td><td>May be adjusted on April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1/MM1/MG1/MA2/FW2/MA3/FW3</td><td>C</td><td>72</td><td>29</td><td>May be adjusted on April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>All Jr</td><td>D</td><td>16</td><td>0</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Pool A: Only pool to qualify for USDGA*</td><td></td><td>232</td><td>66</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

just got out of the financial bind that I was in, cant wait for this one!!

Hey remember we are closing all divisions less than 4 people on April 8, such as FPM, MG1, etc. So if you are intending to play in one of these divisions, sign up soon and get your friends/enemies to sign up soon too, so we can open these divisions!

details at www.texasstates.org (http://www.texasstates.org)

NEZ,

Two bridges are needed on the wilmont/tourny and what is up with the no Trophy only option for Ams who want to play up? I have heard from like 7 guys who were planning on playing Open until they heard of the $120 entry.

$120 is set by the PDGA since this one is a NT. Trophy only should be limited to our non-feature events imo. Maybe if enough people were to ask for it we would add it in the future, but as it stands right now no one has said a word about it until now.

First I've heard of anyone (other than maybe Brackel) that wants trophy only option...hmmmm you know, I could see some folks wanting it, but not the players that are most likely to win a trophy though...

...Anyway...I played the Wilmont yesterday in the mini. The course is looking great. A pair of bridges would be nice, but there wasn't any water in it on #17...only water I saw was in Clear Creek and the West side ditch. (Yeah...I had one that found it.:D) The Willy was trimmed up very nice.

Updated list??

Wow - was Sat night not updated enough on the list there Zcrusher lmfao.... :D

My guess is that Robbie just mailed in his registration on Saturday! :D

Nearly 1/3 full. Keep those registrations coming in folks. Still noticing a ton of names missing from the Advanced Masters division. I wonder if I can barter a PDGA BOD vote for a registration? Cmon Pat! Get it done! :D

Just got entered via titledisc!!! Can't wait for this one. Hopefully i will bring my game with me this year. New plastic,new division and new game, should be an interesting tourney!!! See you all at the course..

Just got entered via titledisc!!! Can't wait for this one. Hopefully i will bring my game with me this year. New plastic,new division and new game, should be an interesting tourney!!! See you all at the course..

Just got entered via titledisc!!! Can't wait for this one. Hopefully i will bring my game with me this year. New plastic,new division and new game, should be an interesting tourney!!! See you all at the course..

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5846#Open

With Pecan this weekend (last chance to qualify for the LSS added cash to be paid out at States) this will be the last update until next week

<table border="1"><tr><td> Divisions</td><td></td><td>Pool</td><td>Current</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO/FPO</td><td>A</td><td>72</td><td>12</td><td>Note: 24 spots to be held for PDGA Touring Card Players until April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM/FPM/MPG/MA1</td><td>B</td><td>72</td><td>30</td><td>May be adjusted on April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1/MM1/MG1/MA2/FW2/MA3/FW3</td><td>C</td><td>72</td><td>29</td><td>May be adjusted on April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>All Jr</td><td>D</td><td>16</td><td>0</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Pool A: Only pool to qualify for USDGA*</td><td></td><td>232</td><td>71</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Hmmm. The advanced field is growing rapidly. Very nice. No advanced masters added though. Wassup with that?

I see we now have 9 different states represented so far...that's pretty cool!

Pat Brenner: Where is your entry???

Speed Golf update. Right now we are going between 1:00 and 4:00 on Friday. Here are the rules:


1. Players will be spaced out at 3 minute intervals. (if we use a flex start, I will give each competitor at least 3 minutes separation)

2. There will be a starter and each competitor will be timed from start until they cross the finish line.

3. Each competitor will be assigned a number that determines their start position and that will be used to track them, and their strokes through the course.

3. On drop-ins you don't have to release the disc, only touch two chains, however, the stance must be legal, i.e. no falling putts! (a falling putt is a stroke as per the rules)

4. In the event that a player catches another on the course the player who caught the other (hereafter known as the out player) has the hole. The out player must clearly call �fore� before driving. The in player does not have to yield the hole, he simply has to avoid getting hit by the drive. In the event that the in player interferes with the thrown disc (is hit) he will receive a one stroke penalty. It is the duty of the out player to make sure the in player hears his call but it is the job of the in player to avoid the hit.
a. If both players approach the basket at the same time, the first player to their disc has the hole, the distance of the discs from the basket does not matter; however, if the players arrive at their discs simultaneously, the out player has the hole. In the event that the first player misses the putt, the second player putts before the first player putts again.
b. If both players approach the Tee at the same time, the first player to the box has the hole. However, if the players arrive at the Tee simultaneously, the out player has the Tee.

5. There is no O.B., however, a player can at their own discretion declare a disc lost and re-drive with a one stroke penalty. All �lost� discs can be picked up and remain in use. (note, this seems like a free pass, it's not, the cost is significantly more than 15 seconds)

6. There is no limit on the number of discs a player can carry (disc management is a skill).

7. Each stroke over par adds 15 seconds to your total time. If you are under par each stroke takes 15 seconds from your total time. The best time wins.

8. You may use the thrown disc as the lie or any disc in your hand to mark your lie, no mini is necessary.

9. There are two divisions, Men's and Women's, cash payout will be according to the PDGA Pro tables.

10. The two meter rule is in force. However, the rule is as follows, if the player can reach their disc without climbing on the tree or pulling themselves up on the tree, the disc is in play. It is O.K. to get the disc down (although a waste of valuable time). Of course this favors taller players... bummer. All other PDGA rules are in force.

11. A lost disc requires the player to re-drive from the Tee or lie. If the player drives and feels their disc is lost but isn't sure, they should throw a second disc and play it.

12. This event is on the honor system. Each player is responsible for keeping track of their own score. Scorecards will be located on each Tee sign and scores from the hole before should be recorded there. If a player forgets to score they will be given 10 strokes for that hole. Also, there will be officials on the course keeping track of strokes and any player caught cheating will be disqualified from the entire event.

Two other points to consider:

We will be running this on the Powell. I desperately want to run it on the Wilmont but after a lot of discussion, I realize the Powell will be better; fewer opportunities for lost discs, shorter course, easier to watch and maintain a good environment.

Second, I am adding $100 cash to the pot and guarantee to pay two deep. So even if it's just you and me, you should come out ahead. :)

I may do this but I already have the BG/DG challenge, Doubles, DDC, and maybe distance on my schedule. :D

Hmmmm...no reg. list update today?

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5846#Open



With Pecan this weekend (last chance to qualify for the LSS added cash to be paid out at States) this will be the last update until next week



Where did I lose you on that one Larry? You would think a former States TD might cut me a little slack since I am running a 120-150 person B-tier this weekend AND posted that the list would not be updated until next week lmao :o

Ok - ok Gimp! You get some slack this time...

As for all of you other slackers out there...get those registrations in. There is a 1 week countdown before we start closing down divisions that don't have 4 people signed up!!!!

Another notable absense is Andi's reg. in FPM! Come on Andi - don't be a slacker here! :D

We are going to have a player�s pack that you will NOT want to miss. Don't know when Nez wants to "tip his hand" on it all... :D

I have at least 15 titledisc entries to put in next week and will likely take 15 signups this weekend, so get your entry in so you will NOT miss out.

Maybe Andi doesn't feel up to playing competitive golf all weekend! Think about what you just said there Lizard.

...

Roses are red,
And complainers still be,
This post has been edited
at the request of the TD.

...

BOOOOOMMMM!!!!

We are going to have a player�s pack that you will NOT want to miss. Don't know when Nez wants to "tip his hand" on it all... :D



Great more for the mule to haul to the course. :(

heah!! mule heah!! :p

It'll be hard to top the player's pack at Bowling Green this last weekend:

A tourney stamped SuperColor Discraft Spectra, a tourney stamped Star Wraith, a tourney stamped Gateway Element, a DGA Squal mid-range, a CE-aviar tye-dye stamped mini, a tournament T-shirt, and a micro-fiber towel.

4 discs, a mini, a t-shirt, and towel. More than the actual entry fee.

Whatever the Texas States player pack, I'm sure it's going to be above-and-beyond --- I can't wait to play.

Well I said that "I have seen" Good thing I was not at Bowling Green lmao :)

The item of which Gimp speaks, is definitely going to be a very cool collector's item kind of thing. Very special with tournament stamped logo on it!

Cmon Nez, when we can we bust some word out on it???

The Pro pool this year is in for a special treat in that they will receive a full player's pack this year. In years past, we only provided the Pro pool players with the traditional-stamped Aviar, this year, they will get something else too! :D

Why is every tournament recently taking money out of payout for players packs?

Sometimes merch is donated by sponsors, rather than cash.

Why is every tournament recently taking money out of payout for players packs?



Did anyone say that States was doing that?

The item of which Gimp speaks, is definitely going to be a very cool collector's item kind of thing. Very special with tournament stamped logo on it!

Cmon Nez, when we can we bust some word out on it???



It's a pretty sweet disc; I saw it a few weeks ago. :cool:

I wouldn't be so sure. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

It happened at Z-Boaz and Nac so I would assume so.

100% payout in all AM divisions after the PDGA fees PLUS players pack. It is going to be VERY sweet...

In Pro divisions a very sweet players pack (not a full one like Ching says though, but SUPER sweet), plus over $3500 added in CASH... Hope some pros come down after all the work we have put into making this a great event!

<table border="1"><tr><td>MPO</td><td>$267.00
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>$102.00
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>$249.00
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>$420.00
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>$552.00
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>$402.00
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1</td><td>$87.00
</td></tr><tr><td>FW3</td><td>$108.00
</td></tr><tr><td>FPO</td><td>$18.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Junior</td><td>$42.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Total</td><td>$2,247.00
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Final numbers for the series... If you played ONE event you can win MORE at Texas States... :D

What I had intended to say (or thought I said) was that the Pros are going to be getting almost a full players pack this year (as opposed to years past where we only supplied the tourney stamped Aviar Black putter.)

Sorry if that confused anyone....

I'm such a bonehead! :D I forgot to mention (AS OFFICIAL SPOKESPERSON FOR DAVE NESBITT:) that the very unique and special item for this year's player pack is a deck of playing cards with the Texas States and PDGA logo on the backs, and one of the top 52 disc golf players from around the world.

This is a super-cool one-of-a-kind item available only through Texas States. One deck of these beautiful, high-quality playing cards will be included in every players pack! And that isn't all either!

Gimp will be giving us the estimated added cash amounts when he has them available. :D(Don't kill me John!) But it's looking like this year's event is gonna rock just in terms of the player's pack alone! WOW! Check it out: The Ace of Spades playing card!!! (http://www.hfds.org/assets/TexasDiscGolf_Back.pdf) ( I sure hope this link works!)

Who is that un-masked man??? Who else could it be? There is only a limited number of these decks made...when they are gone, they are gone! Come and get some - register for Texas States today! (http://www.titledisc.com/Events/FlynHighDiscGolf.com_2006_TXStates.php) Who are the 52 going to be????

This baby is gonna rock like you wouldn't believe! A huge ruond of applause goes out to Gimp and all of the other sponsors and volunteers for all of their continued hard work towards ensuring the most successful Texas States ever!

Why is every tournament recently taking money out of payout for players packs?



It is part of the PDGA guidelines for B Tiers and above now. The TDs are required to provide a players pack ($10 for B-Tiers and $25 for A-Tiers) to all Am entries. They are allowed to count the cost of the players pack as part of the payout.

'06 Tour Standards (http://www.pdga.com/documents/td/06TourStandards.pdf)

Read the tier requirements sections.

And if you have a problem with Pecan take it to the Pecan thread. $2,400 added in cash and merchandise at the Pecan event...

The $3,500 min. added to States Pro Purse in CASH was mentioned above Larry :cool:

Larry! the way you where talking I thought that it was a picture of a woman and it's Climo! wow has your boat flipped over? :DSee ya at States

There any posion ivy on these courses? :(

There any posion ivy on these courses? :(



Not in the fairways!

Not if you can stay in the fairway ;)

Gee, never thought of that.

The only places where you might run into the green stuff is along the creek which backs up to wilmont 1-3, and then along the creek again as you head towards the basket on eight.

Can't really think of any place on the Powell or Tourney were you can find it.

Thanks, that was the answer I was looking for.

Robby, Sue is right. I was out there yesterday and noticed a good bit of it to the left of Hole 1's fairway. You could infer that it would also be to the left of the fairway on Holes 2,3,and 8... behind and to the left of 7's basket, and along Hole 14's fairway (in the O.B. wetlands).

one of the top 52 disc golf players from around the world.





Funny I didn't pose for any picture.

Some other important info I forgot to post about:

Bring extra cash with you to the tournament for raffle tickets and the fly-mart. We have a ton of stuff for the raffle prizes, at least a few vendors selling their wares at fly-mart. Although the tournament is taking care of lunch on Saturday, Sunday will be a different matter...we are still working out the details for food on Sunday but whatever it turns out being, you will need to purchase your meal on Sunday.

If we are successful in obtaining an adult beverage sponsor, we'll also be requesting donations for that too!

As always, we'll have plenty of Texas States stamped merchandise available for sale as well. Everyone has been really jazzed about the Discraft 4-color discs too! I've sold out of them at both events where I took them - Moffitt Show and Texas State Doubles. I will be carting a few with me up to World Doubles in Wimberley this weekend...if you want one, please let me know...I would like an idea about whether I need to bring an extra lot of them up with me.

The tee shirts we have right now still do not have the sponsorship logos on the back. The are all to be gathered up next week to send back to the screeners for having the sponsors added to the back...if you want one without the sponsors on it, then this weekend at Wimberley is the last chance you will have to get one that way.

We are nearing the final two weeks of pre-registration...

Gimp still hasn't recuperated from the Pecan Open yet, but he says he might get an update in tonight. It's looking like the B pool is full...

Get those **** entries in, will ya??? :D

Time for AMS to get busy on signing up if they want to get in... We will go by the time stamp on titledisc and people will be refunded that don't get in and put on a waiting list. Don't miss out on the added cash if you qualified in the LSS and pros need to get busy before we shuffle some spots away and fewer pros have a chance to go for the OVER $3,500 added cash in this event!!!!

Current list of folks who are IN!!! Thanks for signing up� http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5455#Open


<table border="1"><tr><td> Divisions</td><td>*</td><td>Pool</td><td>Current</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO/FPO</td><td>A</td><td>72</td><td>17</td><td>Note: 24 spots to be held for PDGA Touring Card Players until April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM/FPM/MPG/MA1</td><td>B</td><td>72</td><td>52</td><td>May be adjusted on April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1/MM1/MG1/MA2/FW2/MA3/FW3</td><td>C</td><td>72</td><td>47</td><td>May be adjusted on April 7
</td></tr><tr><td>All Jr</td><td>D</td><td>16</td><td>0</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Pool A: Only pool to qualify for USDGA*</td><td>*</td><td>232</td><td>116</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Reg list is updated! 116 players and an almost filled B pool!

Cmon folks - keep em coming in!

Glad to see last year's MM1 champ finally got his registration in and that the division made. Thanks Pat! :D

Is it really true that we have almost as many FPOs as MPOs out there??? Any of you guys thinking about playing in MPO better get on the stick...we'll have to start opening up slots to B and C pools after April 8th!!!

These pools WILL be shuffled so get your entry in!!! :D

Go to titledisc to sign up right away :)

http://www.titledisc.com/Events/FlynHighDiscGolf.com_2006_TXStates.php

Or you can fill that form out and mail it in � make the check out to HFDS � 6014 Sanford, Houston, Texas 77096

<table border="1"><tr><td>MPO</td><td>$267.00
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>$102.00
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>$249.00
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>$420.00
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>$552.00
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>$402.00
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1</td><td>$87.00
</td></tr><tr><td>FW3</td><td>$108.00
</td></tr><tr><td>FPO</td><td>$18.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Junior</td><td>$42.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Total</td><td>$2,247.00
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Final numbers for the series... If you played ONE event you can win MORE at Texas States... :D



Not very many ma2's going after this added cash as it stand - I may have to play AFTER all :o

Any of you guys thinking about playing in MPO better get on the stick...we'll have to start opening up slots to B and C pools after April 8th!!!



Larry, or John, what exactly does this mean? Does this potentially mean that at an NT, pro players will be getting turned away so that the various am fields can expand?

Y'all have complicated my decision by not having the masters eligible for the chance at USDGC. I am not complaining about that, but honestly, I am waiting to see the field of open players that are presently unqualified for USDGC before I make any decision.

Yes, pros need to start signing up. The Masters field "may" be moved to pool A for instance which I am guessing would please you. These decisions are yet to be made though. Get your sign ups in!

Pros will be missing out on a huge opportunity if they pass on States this year :cool:

So, if I sign up for Masters, and the masters field does NOT get into pool A and will not therefore be eligible for USDGC, will I be allowed to pay additional money to enter the open field, or am I stuck?

Come on MPO's, stop being lazy and sign up!! And yes, that includes you Matt Hall!

You can pay additional money to enter the open field if there is an open spot to move you to. Otherwise you are stuck.

Just sign up on titledisc, I'm in. James are you gonna go to the USDGC? if not play masters ;)

I'd go if I ever qualified and this will probably be my only chance to qualify, but based on the present low open sign up, I'm betting the Masters will be in Pool A with the Open, so I will probably sign up as a master.

Come on MPO's, stop being lazy and sign up!! And yes, that includes you Matt Hall!



I told Rick to sign me up two weeks ago. :confused:

A N.T.event turning away a open player..........that would not float very good in the disc golf bowl.
IMO
Ams should have limited fields and rec. division should play recreationaly (not tournaments)

I doubt we will have that problem. An open player that gets shut out will not be affected by the Ams, they will be affected by their fellow division-mates who signed up earlier.

The A pool limit is 72, and currently only open to MPO & FPO, as required -- and neither division can be moved. Any shuffling of people into that pool cannot happen until the day of (I think).

A N.T.event turning away a open player..........that would not float very good in the disc golf bowl.
IMO




35 open spots in pool A will not happen either - the easy answer is sign up now if you are a Pro player and want to play.

There are rules to this stuff that we are following. We are sending the message, sign up if you want in.

The volunteers have put a lot of blood sweat and tears into raising this money on a short turnaround. How about we put the focus on all the pro players who are not getting their entry fees in (what we are trying to do btw so they won�t miss out). It is always easy to accuse staff of doing it wrong Vinnie. Are you playing?

There is a lot of cold hard cash and love going into this event, get signed up so you won�t miss out!

Maybe it will not fill and it will not be a problem at all. We shall see�

FYI - that is incorrect information Tony just gave. We will be looking at pool assignments in the next few days. There should be plenty of spots for everyone - get your entry fees IN!

It is always easy to accuse staff of doing it wrong Vinnie.


I didn't do that....I just wouldn't want to be the one explaining why a open player didn't get in. We should all sign up early! Makes it easy on everyone. And yes I am playing.
I will say if a N.T. is to highlight the elite player....why is there a rec division?

Maybe we need to change the name from recreational for Vinnie (not that it would make any difference to him). I am sorry we don't all have the same abilities and able for all of us to play Pro. I enjoy playing the game and I like to be able to compete with others of my same ability. I think that is the purpose of having different divisions. I also enjoy playing in tournaments. I don't just come out to watch you play. I still can't figure out why you are so down on recreational players. :mad:

Vinnie - NT events only guarantee slot availability until two weeks before the event after that, the TD is free to adjust pools as they want.

Let's see...we have Advanced Am players waiting to hand us money to play (in advance of the event) and the possibility that we might have another couple of MPOs that might decide they want to play the day of the event...tough choice there, eh?

If MPOs want to play in this tournament they can sign up in advance...if they don't want to, then they take a chance that there might not be room for them when they try to do so on the day of.

It has always been the practice of Texas States to squeeze in as many people that want to play as possible. We have a good track record of doing this pretty successfully too although it does move Ams into the A-pool. We've always managed to clear the waiting lists before the first tee time...we'd probably even make room for an MPO if one wanted to get on a wait list! :D

This shuffling around of divisions and pool assignments hasn't been kept a secret. We've been vocal about getting the A-pool registrations to us in order to ensure availability of space. April 8th is the day that we get to start juggling it around. There isn't a wait list yet, but there will be by the end of the weekend.

Let us save the bait for another day. There is good fishing out at Bass LMAO

FYI - I don't think there will be any am divsions in the A-pool

Actually, I bet there are all sorts of pros scurrying to the mailbox and titledisc.com today to be sure to save a spot to go for all the added cash :)

jim...I think every division has a place to play
but if you look at the meaning for recreational........
kind of like a R.V. you don't drive it everyday to work. but once in a while you may drive it on vacation but most times it is set up at the house :D

So, you are saying we just let them play when we need them or want to use them? Now that seems real professional.

no you got it all wrong.
I mean you can't park a R.V. in a regular car lot but they got special parks just for R.V.'S :D

Vinnie, they have been asking for a better name since before they named it that since it doesnt even fit what they are. If you got a better name that will make you feel better about the players then send it in. Do it quick cause I have hated the name of that division since day one.

Jim, he thinks you're special. :)

Larry, I understand what y'all are saying, and I intend on signing up tonight, but this NT is very different from other NTs in that y'all are possibly going to have 2/3 am, 1/3 pro split set in stone by this weekend. Like Vinnie said, while it all might be on the up and up, it's gonna look kind of weird if pros get turned away at an NT with three courses, while ams get in.

Tony, I think he is special. I just don't agree with him about that division, no matter what we call it. I think it is a necessary division and good for the sport.

I'm still a recreational golfer, too (and hope to be for the rest of my life)...I just so happen to play in the Adv division. :D

I love to compete, but honestly, disc golf is my primary (and favorite) form of recreation.

__________________________________

Already 40 players in the MA1 field? Awesome.

Vinnie - I'm very disappointed in your remarks about this. It comes off as sounding very "elitist" to us non-Pro players.

Just because the PDGA chose the unfortunate moniker of "Recreational" for the lowest skilled division players doesn't mean that those players are any less passionate about the sport. And, any who take the time to sign up in advance certainly are exhibiting much more professionalism than a "Pro" player that is still trying to register on the day of an A-tier (or NT-tier) event.

I can think of many recreational-skilled players that have a far greater professional approach toward (and in support of) our sport than most "Pros" that I know.

Now...are you going to act like a Pro and get your registration in, or are you going to act like an "elitist Pro" and act like this is a recreational tourney? :D

Well, looks like all ya'll missing is a cranky woman.

Oh no, you are all a bunch of women!

Just look at the whining and complaining going on around here.

Hey guys.................time to shut up and register!

is there a trophy only option for this tourney? in the open division? ;)

Now...are you going to act like a Pro and get your registration in, or are you going to act like an "elitist Pro" and act like this is a recreational tourney

Good 1 larry!
we need to figure out each division should have their own weekend. A rec. winner on a rec. weekend would fill like the number 1 winner. Instead of the winner of the lowest division playin that weekend. we could run multiple events every weekend in different locations. Most of the gallery for disc golf is playing in the tournament.
But I didn't come up with this idea....I think it was the P.G.A.
And I know there will be people who say we arn't there yet.
But we are growing much faster than that ball golf thing did. And the first step has to be took. Join us at TWC and you will see what I mean.

LMAO Good one Cranky Lady :D

Wow, look at all the debate!

Let me try to be the arbitrator...

I see Vinnie's point about having a "recreational" division at a National Tour event. I agree it might not be the best idea. That is, for non-PDGA members using recreational divisions to try out the tournament scene. For seasoned tournament players that just aren't as skilled and talented as the Vinnie's of the world, it seems alot more necessary. I think this problem is solved by requiring PDGA membership to participate in such a large event.

I like the fact that major's (Am World's) only have the advanced and age-protected divisions, but I'm unsure if NOT having the lower divisions at NT events is a good thing.

The NT's purpose is to promote the touring pro player, so they should be showcased. That means that they should be SHOWN...to the am and casual-playing world. I like how TX States does this by teetimes with pros starting last. I think an even better idea would be to stagger the start so that AMs all start shotgun-style early, and pros start shotgun style later on, so that amateurs can watch the pro's play more holes, and still get the 63 holes of golf in. Maybe that's an idea to look at for later on or for other events; I think it would work quite well.

To summarize:
1. Rec is a crappy name, but dedicated players participate in those divisions, although many new [true "recreational"] players do as well.
2. Pro's should be showcased; that is the point of the NT.
3. Reserving spots and then releasing them to get more players (be it am, pro, whatever) is not a bad thing; ample time is given, and pre-reg'ing HELPS EVERYONE!

I just looked and there are plenty of NT's run in conjunction with an AM event... There are a good number of NT's that draw in the 70-85 range for the pro divisions which sounds like about what we will have if some pros get off the fence :p

So now Vinnie we are going to have a tourney pissing contest lmao. I heard your event was awesome last year, but lets keep talk of it on your own thread lmfao :cool:

I think an even better idea would be to stagger the start so that AMs all start shotgun-style early, and pros start shotgun style later on, so that amateurs can watch the pro's play more holes, and still get the 63 holes of golf in. Maybe that's an idea to look at for later on or for other events; I think it would work quite well.



Fewer people would be able to play - the current set up maximizes participation and leaves lots of people for the gallery if they want to watch the pros.

BTW - people look for links to titledisc, added payout numbers, divisional breakdown etc need to go back up to before this debate started in the thread lmao :D

Somebody call a wabulance :D

is there a trophy only option for this tourney? in the open division? ;)

???? also will that **** 27 hole layout be used again?

No there is not.

I agree!
Texas State is and will be a great event
AS IT SHOULD BE!

There was a discussion about making States INT and up like two years ago. I am looking up NTs as I type and I didn't find any NTs with a rec division offered and most were pro only weekends. Heck North Carolina doesn't ever offer Rec and they get huge tournouts and great competition.

***Nice TD mode off***

Did you try clicking the first of the thread, going to www.texasstates.org (http://www.texasstates.org) OR going to www.titledisc.com (http://www.titledisc.com) to read the flier that has been posted for months? :D

***Nice TD mode on***

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The Hunt for Wilmont�s $100 Treasure! Arrrggh!
Land in the Houston Star and Win $100
Black Gold Stamped Soft Challenger to all players! + Players Pack Goodies!
Ball Golf � Disc Golf Challenge: Free! Compete by invite only
DDC Competition: $20 team adv'd / $10 team rookies
Let-It-Fly / Distance Accuracy Competition:$10 pros / $5 ams
Fastest Shot Competition: Free!
Table Tennis Challenge (Subject To Change):$5
FlyMart Table: $20 per day (Sat, Sun or both)
Speed Golf Competition: $10 For details contact Lyle Ross: [email protected]et
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Tourney Course: New Layout Holes 3-8, See texasstates.org

Friday Pick-Partner Doubles: Pro $21 per Player / Ams $16 per Player
Register Friday 2pm-4pm / Flex start � $1 per Player Goes to The Houston Food bank

Important Notes: There are no guaranteed spots for morning sign ups, so sign up early! Players meeting at 9:00 am, Saturday. PDGA membership required of all Pro and Advanced disc golf competitors. All other disc golf competitors who are not PDGA members (except Juniors) shall be required to pay a $5 non-member fee. Each $90 entry to the FPO (Women�s Open) Division includes a $25 sponsorship from HFDS, so the payout will be based on $115 entry per player. You must be a registered disc golf competitor to enter Table Tennis Challenge. All other ancillary events are open to the
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2006 FlynHighDiscGolf.com Texas States Fees & Entry Form:
_____ $115* - Pro Open [MPO]
_____ $90* - All Pro Women [FPO�, FPM]
_____ $90* - All Age Protected Pro Open [MPM, MPG]
_____ $59* - Advanced Open [MA1]
_____ $59* - Advanced Women [FW1]
_____ $59* - All Age Protected Adv. Open [MM1, MG1]
_____ $48 - Intermediate Open [MA2]
_____ $48 - Intermediate Women [FW2]
_____ $38 - Recreational Open [MA3]
_____ $38 - Recreational Women [FW3]
_____ $25 - All Juniors [MJ1/2/3/4, FJ1/2/3/4]
(*You must be current PDGA member. �FPO payout based on $115 entry fee. See Important Notes Above)

_____ $5 - Non-PDGA Member Fee
_____ $10 - Late Fee (after April 17)
_____ $5 - Ace Pot (optional0
____________ Total Enclosed

Name_________________________________________

PDGA #_________________________________________

Email_________________________________________

Phone_________________________________________

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Here's an idea..... Make it a 3 day tourney w/ Open players playing all day Friday and 1/2 a day on Saturday, The Ams could play 1/2 a day on Saturday and a full day on Suday. This would allow for a good gallery as the Ams will be able to learn how the course should be played...

No there is not.

ok thanks!! I along with many others would donate to the open division if it were offered.I am just not going to donate at full price.

There was a discussion about making States INT and up like two years ago. I am looking up NTs as I type and I didn't find any NTs with a rec division offered and most were pro only weekends. Heck North Carolina doesn't ever offer Rec and they get huge tournouts and great competition.



It looked to me like about half NT�s had A-tier AM events. You have to remember, most places do not have well developed recreational divisions like Texas does. No division will be excluded if four or more people sign up by the deadline for Texas States.

I think the lack of rec divisions in other areas is because those players playing at that level play up..I think not offering the rec division will only make the other divisions bigger!! Sure you might lose a few lower level players but that will be balanced by the massive field sizes encouraging more participation in the other am divs.

Now if we could get those people with a 950 and above to move up to open we would all be in better shape. :o:D

Vinnie, do we have that many TD's? Which one will handle the Pro tourney, which one the Masters, etc. Will a TD be willing to run a "B" tier for 10 to 15 Pros? It seems like there is a problem already having enough weekends for the different tourneys. Maybe it would be feasible and advantageous to consider on down the road, if this continues to be a problem to look at seperating and having two different tourneys like Pro and Ams. I don't see it as that big of a problem yet, only in some cases. How many tourneys get filled and have to turn away people. I think they did at Victoria, but I am not aware of any others. Would it be profitable to seperate the divisions?
I don't know that much about how they are ran from a TD's point of view.

Now if we could get those people with a 950 and above to move up to open we would all be in better shape. :o:D

If there were only 2 divisions (not including gender and age protected divs.), i would imagine many more people would play open..

The separate weekend thing might be good fodder for a new thread. It does not go along with the spirit of what works for Texas States. We had to turn away a bunch of people at Conroe. Waterloo always turns people away - does Capital of Texas always fill - those are the only ones that come to my mind... Maybe Red Rock Show every once in a while???

Salazar, Chinger is calling you a sandbagger!! :D

Vinnie, do we have that many TD's? Which one will handle the Pro tourney, which one the Masters, etc. Will a TD be willing to run a "B" tier for 10 to 15 Pros? It seems like there is a problem already having enough weekends for the different tourneys. Maybe it would be feasible and advantageous to consider on down the road, if this continues to be a problem to look at seperating and having two different tourneys like Pro and Ams. I don't see it as that big of a problem yet, only in some cases. How many tourneys get filled and have to turn away people. I think they did at Victoria, but I am not aware of any others. Would it be profitable to seperate the divisions?
I don't know that much about how they are ran from a TD's point of view.



Waco charity open, some of Mace's events,Himings finals was seperate,world dubs,and state dubs are a few examples around here!!

Thanks alot Chile :DWhat would I do without :o:D

How long do you think they would keep playing open. If you force people to move up because that is the only choice then I see a decline in participation. They will not want to keep paying the price for someone else to take the purse. More divisions, more participation, more competition.

The separate weekend thing might be good fodder for a new thread. It does not go along with the spirit of what works for Texas States. We had to turn away a bunch of people at Conroe. Waterloo always turns people away - does Capital of Texas always fill - those are the only ones that come to my mind... Maybe Red Rock Show every once in a while???



States is the premier event in our state!!!

Actually more divisions means less players in that division which comes out to LESS competition. :o

Actually more divisions means less players in that division which comes out to LESS competition. :o



have you signed up yet?? :p

Salazar, Chinger is calling you a sandbagger!! :D


I always consider the source and most things he says in respect to the sort of topic are useless mutterings!!

Got more to say about this, but this is not the place and I have to go. See you all at World's Doubles, Texas States, LOSO and COTO. :)

good luck this weekend jim

How long do you think they would keep playing open. If you force people to move up because that is the only choice then I see a decline in participation. They will not want to keep paying the price for someone else to take the purse. More divisions, more participation, more competition.



I don't think you can actually force people to play open that prefer to retain their amateur status.

When States took on the NT designation, it became for the Pro's and the other divisions' importance greatly diminishes. Rolling over any non MPO or FPO players into the A pool now isn't a good idea, IMO.

It is not a bad thing to fill pools, and start wait lists for the filled pools.

We could always move the Rec divisions to Moffitt. :)

I guess you are volunteering to TD that course right Tony? lol

There is nothing wrong with moving more pro divisions to the A-pool. No one ever expected to have 72-combined MPO and FPO in this tournament any way. Many of the other NT�s do not get that many in those two divisions either�

We could always move the Rec divisions to Moffitt. :)



Ha! Especially since that's where most of them came from or call their home course!

I wonder how many of the Int. Players currently signed up will be "bumped" to the MA1 pool after the April 18th rating comes out (to include Ryan Kirsch and his current 936 rating)?

they wont and cant be bumped...only by choice (assuming there is a spot for them if they want to)since the update is so close.

Had not seen that 936 yet - Posted the list and went to bed last night. I'll make sure to get him switched :D

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We could always move the Rec divisions to Moffitt. :)



For the first few years, we didn't offer a novice division. Mr. Wilchek didn't think "novice state champion" made much sense Hmm...rec state champ. Sounds about the same, eh? I guess the way things are now days, you can't turn away a division if you have enough people to play it.

they wont and cant be bumped...only by choice (assuming there is a spot for them if they want to)since the update is so close.



Is that true?

Is there a "grace-period" after an update for players ratings? If so, where is that stated or written (not trying to stir a pot, just genuinly interested).

What about a sub-955 player who has accepted cash and signed up in Adv, but his ratings on the 18th shoots up above 960? Would he still be allowed to play Adv?

You could PM Chuck, I would look but trying to find something on this site is like pulling teeth.

From my understanding the ratings update is meaningless that close to an event. The only thing that it could do is let a player move down by choice if the TD lets them switch. I imagine for States letting someone switch wont happen because of the pools filling.

{edited because i think i said the wrong name}

The reason there is a grace period is for exactly this reason. Events that fill with set pools etc. No clue where you can find that written, but I am 99.9% sure it is true...

It effects people like Ryan who are rated probably unfairly into Advanced off of two rounds to. His rating could drop but it is too late�

And it is perfectly fine to bait and scream and jump up and down and complain in this thread � our thread likes the attention :p ;) :o:D:cool:

It also allows for someone like me to play INT. I am 910 right now but by my calcs I will be 935+ on the 18th. I could signup now and play INT and nothing could be done about it.

John, I hear that there are now three different boxes for the powell and wilmont. I may get out there Easter weekend. Do you know which tee colors the various divisions will play? If so, can you post it?

It also allows for someone like me to play INT. I am 910 right now but by my calcs I will be 935+ on the 18th. I could signup now and play INT and nothing could be done about it.



You could go missing in the Wetlands areas.... :)

Boxes will only change as needed because of ground wear. The regular configurations with traditional basket moves will happen. All of this will be outlined in the full color SWEET caddie book that is part of the players pack :cool:

It also allows for someone like me to play INT. I am 910 right now but by my calcs I will be 935+ on the 18th. I could signup now and play INT and nothing could be done about it.



You could go missing in the Wetlands areas.... :)



I'm from the GT fool ! Betta akst somebody...lmao

Let me ask it this way, what color are the regular boxes?

Boxes will only change as needed because of ground wear. The regular configurations with traditional basket moves will happen. <font color="red"> All of this will be outlined in the full color SWEET caddie book that is part of the players pack :cool:</font>



Sweet! Do i get credit fer that thur idear? :)

Let me ask it this way, what color are the regular boxes?



Did your source mention these new boxes are literally side by side each other? They are not so much different boxes as different lines. And they are not on every box.

The Blue bricks are the standard boxes. I'm sure we'll have the little balls out to mark the boxes for the tourney.

Actually more divisions means less players in that division which comes out to LESS competition. :o



have you signed up yet?? :p



No, and I won't sign myself up. Rick will. :D

Yes, my source said they were nearly side by side, and they also said they provided different lines. Presumably, one would want to practice those lines before money is on the line. I am already resigned to the fact that there a bunch of new tourney holes that I will probably be unable to practice, and would like to feel comfortable with the other 36.

Is asking what course/tees we are going to play asking for too much?

The boxes will be exactly like the courses play or close. The only way they would change significantly would be if there was bad weather which we hope is not the case. Have you never played the tourney course???

James - I played the Wilmont last weekend and saw this:

Most of our tee boxes (where the tee sign is at has a set of Blue bricks buried at grade level...even though they were new, they were difficult to pick out on some tees. We scraped off both sides of the brick markers where they needed it. There was usually a corresponding set of brick markers (in red or something...)on the opposite side of the tee marker...and the distance to the pole looked relatively the same. I never saw a 3rd set of bricks although I did see one brick painted 1/2 Blue 1/2 White...

they wont and cant be bumped...only by choice (assuming there is a spot for them if they want to)since the update is so close.




Chuck, are players subject to play in their respective divisions the following weekend after a ratings update? In other words is their a grace period after ratings updates?
from chuck kennedy:

"No grace period. That's why we update between Sunday-Tuesday. The TD gets an email from the PDGA with current members and their ratings on Thursday right before the event so they have the latest info."

That is good (ratings bump)

Yes, there should be no problem with Rec's playing states.

I understand why some tournaments don't offer them. They cause the most problems, but they have to start somewhere.

Gimp, you are about to get mail.

Where did you send that too?

Well then that presents a problem and contridicts what has been said in the past.

That last one was to EC not Pizza...

From Chuck "Wait! I found the grace period. It's on page 7 of the Tour standards. As long as your player is preregistered, they lock down their division for the two weekends following the ratings update. It's then up to you if you wish to change someone but you don't have to."

Looks like someone will be movin' on up! :D

Never mind.

Interesting facts from 05 NT

The Memorial 164
Melbourne Open 77
Bell South Open 150
Disc Golf Hall of Fame Classic 81
21st Dogwood Crosstown Classic 89
Waco Charity Open 85
Golden State Classic 100
Masters Cup 124
huk lab Beaver State Fling 90
Kansas City Wide Open 84
Greater Des Moines Challenge 77
Discraft Great Lakes Open 92
Brent Hambrick Memorial Open 85
Skylands Classic at Warwick 78

Average 98.3 +/- 27.8
Median 87

Pro Open Division (MPO) No. Open
The Memorial 96
Melbourne Open 39
Bell South Open 81
Disc Golf Hall of Fame Classic 38
21st Dogwood Crosstown Classic 64
Waco Charity Open 55
Golden State Classic 49
Masters Cup 59
huk lab Beaver State Fling 51
Kansas City Wide Open 44
Greater Des Moines Challenge 49
Discraft Great Lakes Open 49
Brent Hambrick Memorial Open 47
Skylands Classic at Warwick 48

Average 54.9 +/- 16.1
Median 49

Pro Women Divisions (FPO, FPM) No. Women
The Memorial 19
Melbourne Open 9
Bell South Open 24
Disc Golf Hall of Fame Classic 11
21st Dogwood Crosstown Classic 11
Waco Charity Open 7
Golden State Classic 14
Masters Cup 9
huk lab Beaver State Fling 9
Kansas City Wide Open 10
Greater Des Moines Challenge 12
Discraft Great Lakes Open 13
Brent Hambrick Memorial Open 11
Skylands Classic at Warwick 7

Average 11.9 +/- 4.7
Median 11

We have plans to accomodate 108 pro players if they would sign up as req'd. Texas State past history is less than 60 total pros over the past few years. Right now we can accomdate 72 MPO/FPO players. This may be reduced to 48 if we move 24 MPM spots, or we could move approx. 8 MPG spots, leaving 64 for MPO/FPO. There is no guarantee we are moving MPM into A pool. We will NOT be moving any amateurs into A pool.

Note also we are NOW a qualifier for the US Amateur Disc Golf Championship! These spots will go to the top 10% of B pool scores

Texas States, like other NT events, is a combination event. The pro side is an NT, the Advanced side is an A-tier and the Int/Rec side is a B-tier. We flex based on our market, but what I can tell you is that this group of Houston volunteers has done an outstanding job in very short order to bring you an event to remember for all players, Pro and Amateur alike!

I'm sorry, but I have to belly laugh at those suggestions about running Texas States on separate weekends...

It is always a struggle to get enough volunteers to staff once...much less twice! Ha-ha!

Most big tournaments are utilizing 2 courses and large card sizes. Our forte in having a facility like we have out at Tom Bass, is that we have 3 courses in a single location. We can hold Ams and Pros at the same time. This allows many more people the opportunity to share expenses with someone in another division and we believe it to add tremendous ambience to the event.

Ams want to play and are willing to register far in advance...I've actually had one player pre-pay me for the following year's entry! With the way the pools stand currently, there are 8 tees out of 18 occupied for A pool. Do you think we'll let them stand unoccupied if there are people on a waiting list in the Am side B-pool?

The important point to take away from all of this is that you need to get your entry into Gimp or TitleDisc if you want a guaranteed slot ...Ams or Pros because like it or not, this is a mini-business (running a tournament) and cash in hand talks...

Can you imagine how much easier it would be to run a tournament where you know all of the financials in advance so the day of the event, you'd have all payout done in advance??? Wouldn't that be awesome???!!!! The problem is this: Texas States always kicks all the money it can back into the tournament itself and into payout. A good year is when we run a completely break-even event with a few hundred bucks left over for a staff "thank you" dinner!

sorry, am at work, I just now got back to my computer to look up your email.

Thanks for the quick reply (as usual)

I personally don't like Pro only events. They always seem so small. We just can't get the traveling pro down here anymore so why bother.

Speaking of traveling Pro's, who all is signed up from out of state?????

No One.

one of the changes that came with movingto the springtime was to make Texas States exactly that - only Texas players allowed!

you can believe it cuz you read it on the web! :D

looked it up myself

15 players from out of state so far.

Including Jay and Dez (honorary Texans)

Barry Shultz
Avery Jenkins
David Feldburg

those were just off the top of my head for names I recognized.

Nice side Advanced field.

No One.

one of the changes that came with movingto the springtime was to make Texas States exactly that - only Texas players allowed!

you can believe it cuz you read it on the web! :D





WRONG !!

Stop talking out your ehhh ( toe flap!! ) Sandleman :D

I'm surprised that we haven't seen a registration from the guy that shot a "perfect" round out here during 2002 Pro Worlds yet...I'd kind-of think he might be interested in playing on these courses again! LoL! :D

Cmon Ken, show 'em how it's done!

Note also we are NOW a qualifier for the US Amateur Disc Golf Championship! These spots will go to the top 10% of B pool scores


who plays this pool?

Ma1!! :D

Note also we are NOW a qualifier for the US <font color="red">Amateur </font> Disc Golf Championship! These spots will go to the top 10% of B pool scores


who plays this pool?

18 more entries in my box this morning (not posted yet) and I think it had 1 fpo, 3 mpo and 2 mpm in the batch.

What hole do I start on?

:D

Personally, I love having AMs around at the bigger tournaments. They are always fun to talk to, make a great gallary, etc.
The most dis-heartening thing I find going on is the lack of Texas MPO representation. I think we have to remember that A) Texas Pros are notorious for signing up last minute B) People don't read the message board and don't know what is going on

When Texas States was being touted around the state all was really mentioned is that it is going to HUGE and we have three courses. That would tend to let most people think that three courses can easily accomadate everyone.

Time to call your local Pro, make announcements at mini's etc. The word is not getting out and we all know many Pro's who have said they will be there. It would be a travesty in the National Tour system to have Pro's turned away beacause of a co-weekend of A-Tier and B-Tier, but you can't blame the tournament for taking cash waving players.

Get the word out, let's go :DIf we can't support the biggest tournament Texas will have on the tour this year, what do we want for nothing?

What hole do I start on?

:D



Hole B at MacGregor and you are required to park by hole 1 - you also are on a card of 5 :D

What hole do I start on?

:D



Hole B at MacGregor and you are required to park by hole 1 - you also are on a card of 5 :D



With an impatient card of 3 Pro men behind me, and a leisurley card of 5 Adv Masters in front?

Excellent!

We've had to put 6 on the MM1 card.... :)

Plus you'll be playing object golf.

We've had to put 6 on the MM1 card.... :)

Plus you'll be playing object golf.




and you tee off at 4:00 AM :p

And you have to throw left handed and blindfolded, nevermind, that would probably improve your game. :D:D

Where are the big arms from Dallas? Are they too good to leave their home courses? The Dallas area, for some reason never has players at any of the tournies I have played. Even when I played Waco last year, there were more people from the houston area than the Dallsa area. Whats up with that?

Just rec'd some super kool neoprene eye glass cases that are going into all the ladies packages. Be sure to support our efforts and buy a ladies tank/tee during the event.