bigbadude
Apr 19 2006, 05:08 PM
So have the rain chances gone up for the weekend?
disctance00
Apr 19 2006, 05:12 PM
YUP!!! I just did my Mesican rain dance for ya'll!! :p
Titledisc is down, so the last A-pool spots will be filled Saturday morning before 8:00. There is only one person on the b-pool waiting list and only a few left on the c-pool waiting list. Send me your name, phone number and division if you would like to be added to the waiting list.
[email protected]
ching_lizard
Apr 19 2006, 05:45 PM
Just curious, but is Spring Valley sponsoring us this year?
13837
Apr 19 2006, 05:47 PM
Weren't they on your list Larry? :eek:
Lyle O Ross
Apr 19 2006, 06:10 PM
Just curious, but is Spring Valley sponsoring us this year?
Not sure, I just wanted to make sure that Gimp and our title sponsor got a plug. :D
Just curious, but is Spring Valley sponsoring us this year?
No, but I don't know that anyone asked.
the_kid
Apr 19 2006, 06:40 PM
I looked up the SSA for the round we played at the finals and it was 52.25. I figure each stroke is worth 10 points. So about 1072.5
ck34
Apr 19 2006, 06:45 PM
1069 under the 2006 factor.
the_kid
Apr 19 2006, 06:50 PM
Yeah that why I still don't have a 1060 round in my rating but a 1059 instead. Why is that? :confused:
ck34
Apr 19 2006, 06:53 PM
We always round down. If you have a rating that's 1069.99, it shows up as 1069 not 1070. That's partly so an Am at 914.99 has to actually earn the Advanced 915 level. We've been doing that since we started in 1998.
the_kid
Apr 19 2006, 06:56 PM
Thanks Chuck
Makes a 999 rated pro really earn 1000 as well :D
ching_lizard
Apr 19 2006, 08:07 PM
I briefly saw some 30% chance numbers earlier in the week, but here is the forecast as of tonight (Wednesday)
<table border="1"><tr><td>Thu</td><td></td><td>Partly Cloudy</td><td>86�/70�</td><td>20%
</td></tr><tr><td>20-Apr</td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Fri</td><td></td><td>AM Clouds / PM Sun</td><td>85�/66�</td><td>10%
</td></tr><tr><td>21-Apr</td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Sat</td><td></td><td>Partly Cloudy</td><td>87�/66�</td><td>20%
</td></tr><tr><td>22-Apr</td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Sun</td><td></td><td>AM Clouds / PM Sun</td><td>87�/67�</td><td>10%
</td></tr><tr><td>23-Apr</td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>
the_kid
Apr 19 2006, 08:15 PM
Just saw on the news that Friday was a 40% and then weekend was 0%
ching_lizard
Apr 19 2006, 08:23 PM
Just goes to show ya how precise of a science weather forecasting is! LoL :D:D
ching_lizard
Apr 19 2006, 10:03 PM
Wow!
Just two more days until Texas States!
Don't be disappointed if you didn't get into the tournament, come on out and check this baby out!
Both Discraft and Innova 4 color tourney stamped discs will be for sale, as well as the awesome tee-shirts (some tie-dyed by SueMac!) and of course the disc golf playing cards!
Oops! Did I forget to mention the top quality players? Anyone in Texas States is top quality! LoL!!!
Hold onto your hats folks! With 196 pre-registered players, this is destined to be a Texas States long-remembered. (****! And I gotta staff this one too!)
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5846#Open
sandalman
Apr 19 2006, 10:30 PM
hey what happened to repar, duke and bray in MM1?
Kent is in MA1 ....Nick and Gary dropped
the_kid
Apr 19 2006, 10:36 PM
I know Nick's reason but why did Gary drop out? :confused:
testap
Apr 19 2006, 11:10 PM
I am looking for anyone in the Dallas area who wants to car-pool, leaving on Friday. Will drive or be happy to ride with. :cool:Let me know..Thanks..
PT
speaking of Dallas, where is hollywood?
i got an email from him saying he couldn't make it...guess we need to start calling him "West Hollywood"cause he's a punk! :D
gnduke
Apr 20 2006, 02:53 AM
My event coordinator planned a conflicting event without coordinating. :cool:
typical of you Dallas dudes. :o
vinnie
Apr 20 2006, 10:01 AM
Had me a car crash this morning avoiding a freaging cat. :o
Instead of fliping the car I decided to hit the colvert head on.
Back is tight and not sure if I will be making....all depends on how it feels tommorow
Dang that sucks :(
You should come anyway...if the DG isnt working out then an experienced TD helping staff would be great.
james_mccaine
Apr 20 2006, 10:08 AM
Sorry to hear that Vinnie. I hope the back feels good tomorrow.
vinnie
Apr 20 2006, 10:08 AM
I may just do that ....I could always pack my marshall shirt.
I would be any good behind the desk.......cause I do this a lil different.
ching_lizard
Apr 20 2006, 10:14 AM
Awwww V-man! I'm really sorry to hear about it- lay low and hopefully you'll recover in time! You would be sorely missed if you don't make it Vinnie (no puns intended...)
Let us know...
yo Lizard,
It looks like Ill be going back and forth to Houston all weekend so I cant commit to any certain task since I dont know what times ill be there each day. Maybe I could run water and spot a bit or something?? I'll just get with Gimp when I get there and i am sure he can find me soemthing to do to help out.
I may just do that ....I could always pack my marshall shirt.
I would be any good behind the desk.......cause I do this a lil different.
You are always welcome to bring your style of tding to our crew Vinnie and don't forget we have beer :D
This weekend can not get here fast enough for me. If you are thinking of calling me right now don�t think just once, or twice but THREE times before making the call � I am returning ten+ calls a day
A-pool still has spots open � all other divisions are full. If you want to be in on the waiting list email me at
[email protected] And no I CAN�T get YOU in lmao�
Had me a car crash this morning avoiding a freaging cat. :o
Instead of fliping the car I decided to hit the colvert head on.
Back is tight and not sure if I will be making....all depends on how it feels tommorow
You swerved to avoid a cat? ****! Running the Texas Womens Championships has really made you sooooo sensitive. ;)
NEXT TIME PLOW THAT p^$$y!!!! ;)
scoop
Apr 20 2006, 11:24 AM
NEXT TIME PLOW THAT p^$$y!!!! ;)
Best. Post. EVER!
(Why, yes, I am 12 years old. Why do you ask?)
This weekend can not get here fast enough for me. If you are thinking of calling me right now don�t think just once, or twice but THREE times before making the call � I am returning ten+ calls a day
Man, I really miss running tournaments...
This weekend can not get here fast enough for me. If you are thinking of calling me right now don�t think just once, or twice but THREE times before making the call � I am returning ten+ calls a day
Man, I really miss running tournaments...
I'm just a little frazzled after this season � ten sanctioned events including a 120 person tourney on one course and a 149 person tourney on two courses not next to each other and TWO Texas States � the 10th Annual was less than a half year ago � did I mention our volunteer team ROCKS for this event :)
You 'da Man, Gimp! Hey, I hear Himming is looking for someone to pick up the slack when he gets kicked out of the country.
Lyle O Ross
Apr 20 2006, 12:17 PM
Had me a car crash this morning avoiding a freaging cat. :o
Instead of fliping the car I decided to hit the colvert head on.
Back is tight and not sure if I will be making....all depends on how it feels tommorow
I learned a long time ago, aim straight at the cat. The cat's a whole lot smarter than you are and will get out of the way. It's those feable attempts to miss that cause you to turn a perfectly good cat into a sail cat.
BTW - If you come look me up and I will relate Father Dave's famous dead cat story to you.
Hey, I hear Himming is looking for someone to pick up the slack when he gets kicked out of the country.
PASS :D
ching_lizard
Apr 20 2006, 12:33 PM
These cards are WAY cool!
I scammed the first two autographs last night on one of my decks! (Thanks Jay and Des! :D)
We added em up and it looks like it will be possible to get about 9 autographs this weekend! I'm going to be carrying around my autograph deck with me all weekend collecting them!
Is the tourney course going up today?
sandalman
Apr 20 2006, 12:55 PM
PLEASE RAIN ALL WEEKEND!!!
:D
Lyle O Ross
Apr 20 2006, 12:56 PM
Is the tourney course going up today?
My understanding is they are working on it but it may not be up till tommorrow.
ching_lizard
Apr 20 2006, 12:59 PM
Is the tourney course going up today?
Yeah Scott - the baskets are being pulled from MacGregor today, and it sounded like they intended on getting them setup on the Tourney course today. Many, many thanks need to go out to Louis Hall, Jerry Crites and Neal Dambra for all of their hard work in getting these courses prepped, strung and baskets transported and installed. You guys rock!!! Thanks!
Is the tourney course going up today?
Yeah Scott - the baskets are being pulled from MacGregor today, and it sounded like they intended on getting them setup on the Tourney course today. Many, many thanks need to go out to Louis Hall, Jerry Crites and Neal Dambra for all of their hard work in getting these courses prepped, strung and baskets transported and installed. You guys rock!!! Thanks!
What he said... :D
james_mccaine
Apr 20 2006, 01:20 PM
The cat's a whole lot smarter than you are
I love this line. However, I bet Vinnie is a way better putter. :D
tbender
Apr 20 2006, 01:35 PM
Yeah Scott - the baskets are being pulled from MacGregor today, and it sounded like they intended on getting them setup on the Tourney course today. Many, many thanks need to go out to Louis Hall, Jerry Crites and Neal Dambra for all of their hard work in getting these courses prepped, strung and baskets transported and installed. You guys rock!!! Thanks!
What he said... :D
And I'll third that, mention Louis again for all of his efforts (#$*&$!-ing retired old man :)) and include everyone else who's spent a bit of time over the last month tending to Tom Bass.
Hey, I hear Himming is looking for someone to pick up the slack when he gets kicked out of the country.
PASS :D
DOUBLE PASS!! :( The mule is too over worked as is. :) and the cart already is loaded down so bad it looks like george's wallet.One more item and it might just go:D
VINNIE THE MARSHALL.....YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!
SHow 'em some Texas Justice baby!!!!
the_kid
Apr 20 2006, 11:10 PM
Gimp, If there is a tie for the last USDGC spot will you give it to the highest rated player or let them play it off?
prairie_dawg
Apr 21 2006, 01:56 AM
VINNIE THE MARSHALL.....YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!
SHow 'em some Texas Justice baby!!!!
We ain't skeert ov no marshals :eek: :cool::D:o:cool:;)
Right V-man
gnduke
Apr 21 2006, 02:41 AM
Gimp, If there is a tie for the last USDGC spot will you give it to the highest rated player or let them play it off?
The player with the highest rating gets the spot in the case of a tie according to the USDGC qualification rules. I don't think it leaves room for the TD to have any say in the matter.
esalazar
Apr 21 2006, 08:43 AM
It actually says top 5 and ties!! usdgc qualifying!! (http://www.usdgc.com/qualify.htm) !!! :confused: :confused: :confused:
the_kid
Apr 21 2006, 09:15 AM
It actually says top 5 and ties!! usdgc qualifying!! (http://www.usdgc.com/qualify.htm) !!! :confused: :confused: :confused:
That is how it was to start the year but they changed it.
Gary, here is the word from "the man"
"After reviewing the results of the first three qualifiers, we have decided to amend the tie-break procedure. The tie for the last qualifying position can be decided by a playoff or by awarding the spot to the player with the highest rating. The choice will be at the discretion of each event TD.
The total number of players who qualify at each event will remain at five, and the results of the previous qualifiers will stand.
On behalf of the USDGC, I can say that we wish that we had made this decision at the beginning of the year. I apologize to those who have been impacted."
Take care,
Harold
I say do a playoff because they are putting too much faith in the ratings system. Play it off and choose who really deserves the spot. Hellman got skrewed in Melbourne on this issue and they gave it to JJ instead. JJ would have qualified anyway throughout the year but Jeff's chances aren't as high so they basically stole the invite from him.
esalazar
Apr 21 2006, 09:21 AM
Yeah that rating thing being a determining factor is one of the most ridiculous things ever!!! :confused:
the_kid
Apr 21 2006, 09:22 AM
Why not just base it on age, height, weight, points, years playing, or thumb wrestling? :D
frisbeeguy
Apr 21 2006, 09:26 AM
I've always found the ratings pretty accurate for my play...this being the case my only chance would be to play lights out, tie for that last spot and then win in a playoff!
(of course since this tournament is a Tom Bass & I don't practice anymore - it's a very unlikely scenario)
frisbeeguy
Apr 21 2006, 09:28 AM
Matt, just play well and you'll be in! Let the guys behind you fight for that last spot.
the_kid
Apr 21 2006, 09:29 AM
Or ypou could play lights out and tie for the last spot but be booted because the other guy has a hu\igher rating. I know that looking at the field and thier ratings that many a few of the players are inflated by 5 or so points and others are rated lower then what they play and I don't think it is fair if an inflated guy gets it just because the other's rating hasn't caught up to him yet. :confused:
the_kid
Apr 21 2006, 09:32 AM
Matt, just play well and you'll be in! Let the guys behind you fight for that last spot.
There are ten guys rated higher then me that haven't qualified yet so I don't consider it a given that I will make it. I will just have to do well at the other NTs this summer. :p
frisbeeguy
Apr 21 2006, 09:36 AM
Why not just base it on age, height, weight, points, years playing, or thumb wrestling? :D
I'm for years playing! (my only hope other then being the first substitute in a lottery draw & having the lottery winner have a new baby and withdraw...Thanks again John)
gnduke
Apr 21 2006, 09:44 AM
It actually says top 5 and ties!! usdgc qualifying!! (http://www.usdgc.com/qualify.htm) !!! :confused: :confused: :confused:
That is how it was to start the year but they changed it.
Gary, here is the word from "the man"
Here is the qualifying document (http://www.usdgc.com/rulestoqualify.htm) he has placed on his website.
the_kid
Apr 21 2006, 09:45 AM
It actually says top 5 and ties!! usdgc qualifying!! (http://www.usdgc.com/qualify.htm) !!! :confused: :confused: :confused:
That is how it was to start the year but they changed it.
Gary, here is the word from "the man"
Here is the qualifying document (http://www.usdgc.com/rulestoqualify.htm) he has placed on his website.
Yeah but they amended that too. Look at my post. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
gnduke
Apr 21 2006, 09:52 AM
But where is your source ?
The website needs to be corrected anyway, the initial page still says top 5 + ties.
frisbeeguy
Apr 21 2006, 09:59 AM
Post deleted by frisbeeguy
frisbeeguy
Apr 21 2006, 10:03 AM
Here it is, posted April 10th... <font color="blue"> USDGC qualifying amendment for last place ties from Harold Duval (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Board=PDGA%20Tournament%20Info&Number =534946&Searchpage=0&Main=512887&Search=true&#Post 534946)</font>
J_TEE
Apr 21 2006, 10:43 AM
We are hittin' the road in about 30 minutes!!!! See all of you at the course after lunch.. It's finally Friday Woo Hoo. We got some much needed rain last night, how bout Houston???
seeker
Apr 21 2006, 10:50 AM
This is just my opinion but Scooter, maybe you should start your posts with something like "This is just my opinion but...." ;)
tbender
Apr 21 2006, 10:51 AM
Rain hit around 6am, and just stopped. It will be clear the rest of the weekend.
Bass should be good, it needed some rain.
seeker
Apr 21 2006, 10:52 AM
I mean before you accuse people of screwing others on the national boards. Just a thought
J_TEE
Apr 21 2006, 10:57 AM
We needed it too, there are 4" cracks in the ground!!! Rollers just vanish into the ground!!!! :D
ching_lizard
Apr 21 2006, 11:08 AM
Why not just base it on age, height, weight, points, years playing, or thumb wrestling? :D
I love this kind of idea Matt...maybe a rock/paper/scissors contest to determine ties! LoL!!! :D
The bottom line is that the decision about how ties will be broken lies with the TD and we will make that announcement at the players meeting. (I'll push for the R/P/S method of tie-breaking!)
my flight leaves colorado springs at 11:30 and arrives in htown at 2:30. headin staight to the course. A week of training from boulder to co springs has got me in shape for states. watch out int, here i come. By the way, thin air effects the flight of a disc dramatically, my valks fly like firebirds. no wonder everyone here has a bag full of "understable" discs.
PS my doubles partner backed out and Im looking for a partner, I don't care what division, int,adv or open. I aint skeered and my putting in on fire. I should get to the course around 3:30 - 4.
J_TEE
Apr 21 2006, 11:34 AM
See ya at the course Jefe,, Call me when u get to town!!! I'll be out warmin' up... :D
jdavidson
Apr 21 2006, 11:41 AM
After a brief shot of rain this morning... The sun is starting to shine here in Houston! I was out at Bass yesterday and there was definitely a buzz in the air...(probably a few buzzz's as well). Houston, we have an NT!
tbender
Apr 21 2006, 11:44 AM
After a brief shot of rain this morning... The sun is starting to shine here in Houston! I was out at Bass yesterday and there was definitely a buzz in the air...(probably a few buzzz's as well). Houston, we have an NT!
Pearland has sunshine...I expect the grass to be waist high by tonight. :)
(Relax, the grass is nice and roller-short.)
Didn't see any Buzzzes, but saw an Avenger...until it disappeared from view.
gnduke
Apr 21 2006, 11:53 AM
Why not just base it on age, height, weight, points, years playing, or thumb wrestling? :D
I love this kind of idea Matt...maybe a rock/paper/scissors contest to determine ties! LoL!!! :D
The bottom line is that the decision about how ties will be broken lies with the TD and we will make that announcement at the players meeting. (I'll push for the R/P/S method of tie-breaking!)
Maybe then we can get some coverage on ESPN2 !
jdavidson
Apr 21 2006, 11:59 AM
Yeah, that shot was sick. Robbie coaxed me out of a different Z-avenger (same color and weight) after the round. :)
BeTheMachine
Apr 21 2006, 11:59 AM
overcast in austin, no rain though.
buddy's house got struck by lightning overnight and blew out every single outlet in one room of the house! :eek:
we leave at noon, were bringin the marshall :D
esalazar
Apr 21 2006, 12:05 PM
Best of luck all Sin-tex golfers!!!! represent !!!! ;) :D
There are ten guys rated higher then me that haven't qualified yet so I don't consider it a given that I will make it. I will just have to do well at the other NTs this summer. :p
Play like you did last Saturday, and you'll have a **** good shot.
ching_lizard
Apr 21 2006, 10:58 PM
POKER TIME!!!!!!!!!!
played today with dufrane and jimbo. good round, I thougt they mowed? hell, jimbo rolls em down the road and annis over every tree 400+. good round guys. nt in htown, cant wait till tommorrow. good luck everyone.
It actually says top 5 and ties!! usdgc qualifying!! (http://www.usdgc.com/qualify.htm) !!! :confused: :confused: :confused:
That is how it was to start the year but they changed it.
Gary, here is the word from "the man"
"After reviewing the results of the first three qualifiers, we have decided to amend the tie-break procedure. The tie for the last qualifying position can be decided by a playoff or by awarding the spot to the player with the highest rating. The choice will be at the discretion of each event TD.
The total number of players who qualify at each event will remain at five, and the results of the previous qualifiers will stand.
On behalf of the USDGC, I can say that we wish that we had made this decision at the beginning of the year. I apologize to those who have been impacted."
Take care,
Harold
I say do a playoff because they are putting too much faith in the ratings system. Play it off and choose who really deserves the spot. Hellman got skrewed in Melbourne on this issue and they gave it to JJ instead. JJ would have qualified anyway throughout the year but Jeff's chances aren't as high so they basically stole the invite from him.
This would be done in a playoff...
ching_lizard
Apr 22 2006, 05:59 PM
Scores for Round 1 are up!
Kevin McCoy is putting the hammer down!
Fantastic day, fantastic weather, fantastic disc golf!
Larry - From Tournament Central
kostar
Apr 22 2006, 07:37 PM
Will CBS stop by? It's great to see the PDGA & " "PGA in the same city.
Hall, i have faith in you. Barry & Kevin, give us a show.
Where's NC?
ching_lizard
Apr 22 2006, 09:17 PM
Round 2 results are up.
Also tee times have been corrected from the set initially posted at HQ and should be included in the results display.
Great shootin' out there this afternoon. Local Joe Hague drops a 47 with a 1068 rated round and is now on the lead card along with Barry, Matt O. and Yeti. Nice shootin' Joe!
scoop
Apr 22 2006, 10:41 PM
Tee times are showing for all divisions except for Advanced --- waiting to go to bed (yeah, I'm old) --- guess I'll wait a little longer.
ching_lizard
Apr 22 2006, 10:45 PM
I should have that fixed now Rooster!
Weirdness during the upload...I'm at home now with good access to broadband.
scoop
Apr 22 2006, 11:04 PM
Thanks Larry.
Great day of golf --- the TDs, HFDS, and the city of Houston should be proud. Good job.
Oh, and the 757 hole is SATAN>
jeterdawg
Apr 22 2006, 11:14 PM
Great job, staff. The event is running very smoothly.
One question on the tee times -- do they need to start 10 minutes apart?!? Starting a 27-hole round with long holes past 1pm does not sound like the best idea...that's going to leave people done at 6pm or later.
ching_lizard
Apr 22 2006, 11:32 PM
This event rocks!
Sorry Dawg - but 10 minutes is about the optimum interval...especially on the West course where it takes a card about 10 minutes to finish #8 on Wilmont...even longer sometimes if someone hits the schule or goes long on it. We've tried other intervals and they just aren't long enough...part of the reason for the later tee times is because of the sheer size of the Advanced field.
Sure hope everyone is enjoying themselves.
I had a blast out there today! Sorry to everyone I had to give the "I Got Eatin by the Dragon Monster at Texas States" mini over on the dragon hole :DIt was freakin burnin hot out there but I enjoyed getting to watch every throw while spotting.
After the rounds watching the fastest throw and fastest catch deal was sweet. Robby Bratten is something else. He broke the speed record unofficially with a throw of 133kph (the record is 131) He averaged about 125kph on his many throws! I dont think anyone else ever got over 125 even once. Hopefully tomorrow he can break it officially and maybe someone will even catch it and break the catch record(119kph)
Good Luck to all tomorrow!
esalazar
Apr 23 2006, 03:45 AM
field events?????
jimbob8
Apr 23 2006, 12:10 PM
No scores posted on the "PDGA TOUR" Where day be? :confused:
jimbob8
Apr 23 2006, 12:20 PM
Got 'em, on the main web site. :D
ching_lizard
Apr 23 2006, 04:13 PM
Gecko - I'll get these all in the right tournaments after I get back to full broadband connection tonight...for now though, all scores are being listed under the NT event and appear to be coming up both under the PDGA Tour as well as the NT event...
Some of the final scores are up already...but many more are continuing to come in. I'll post updates as I finish scoring each division.
Also please note that in many cases, the payout is lots more than what the PDGA upload can handle since we also have the Lone Star Series event bonus amounts to add to the various payouts.
Payout has been posted at the course and players seem to be very pleased by it.
Final added cash in the Pro side I'm estimating to be in excess of $4,000! Can't wait to hear what the Pro fields have to say about it... :D
ching_lizard
Apr 23 2006, 04:33 PM
This is Nez from Tourney Central. Barry and Matt tied at -13 after 8 holes. Jay is 3? back, and Joe is 5 back.
Des is out ahead, and looking to take the $100 low FPO round bonus on Sunday. I don't have word on Masters.
ching_lizard
Apr 23 2006, 06:03 PM
At #16, it was Barry Schultz by 1 throw over Matt Orum.
Yeti is holding steady, but local favorite Joe Hague has tumbled quite badly and I think was at +6 for the round...
scooop08
Apr 23 2006, 06:09 PM
I want to say thanks for having the updates up so fast I don't think it has ever been this good besides when the live scoring comes in.
my_hero
Apr 23 2006, 07:04 PM
<<< live from Baton Rouge...."Awesome job HOUSTON!" Any more "inside" news?
MTL21676
Apr 23 2006, 07:16 PM
Why no live scoring?
ching_lizard
Apr 23 2006, 07:45 PM
Going into hole #27 "the Dragon Hole" and is up by 2 over Matt Orum.
Matt throws inbounds, Barry throws OB in the street. Orum throws approach from light pole, and Barry turns over a Roc and splashes in the Dragon just short of the in bounds line.
Matt throws within 27 feet of the pin on his up-shot laying at 3 throws.
Barry cans a monster over the water and splashes out.
Matt hits the rim on his putt and Barry ends up winning by 1 stroke!!!! Exciting finish of a great weekend of disc golf.
scooop08
Apr 23 2006, 07:58 PM
Wtg matt for still getting 2nd
MADCITYDISC
Apr 23 2006, 09:19 PM
Thanks for the update. Congrats to Barry on another win on a great start to the 06' season. Call him butter, cause he's on a roll!!! Also congrats to Matt Orum on a well fought battle. That kid will have more than a few huge wins before his career is over.
okcacehole
Apr 23 2006, 09:29 PM
Way to go Team Twisted...2nd and 4th in Pro..Vargas cashed in Pro Woman and Joe cashed in MA1 - nice shooting gang
MTL21676
Apr 23 2006, 09:32 PM
why was over half of the women paid, but less than a third of the open players payed?
not complaining, just curious
Less then a third??? 40% according to my calcs, but Im no math genius :D
As far as the women's payout, may be they were being extra nice to the women or maybe it has something to do with the LSS bonus payout. Either way, looks like it should be a very happy ladies feild :)
MTL21676
Apr 23 2006, 10:22 PM
I'm an idiot. I admit it.
Erroneous
Apr 23 2006, 10:27 PM
Way to go Team Twisted...2nd and 4th in Pro..Vargas cashed in Pro Woman and Joe cashed in MA1 - nice shooting gang
Hell yeah... What ^ he said.... 5th, Nice shootin Joe!!!
Scores are only under one link on the tour page - - http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5455&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Open
We had something very valuable disappear from tournament central - there is a reward for information that leads to getting this item back.
[email protected]
gnduke
Apr 24 2006, 12:01 AM
USDGC Spots ?
Looks like...
Jay Reading
Jim Davidson
JD Ramirez
Dagon Owen
Robby Bratten
took the spots.
Congrats guys!!
^^^^^those are officially the guys that qualified^^^^^^
Again, Congrats!!
The $880 acepot went unhit and was split 50-30-20 in a CTP. Sorry, I dont know who all got the 3 closest to split the money.
The am payout numbers listed are not right. We will get them fixed though...
yobyug
Apr 24 2006, 03:40 AM
Who qualified for Am team? Great tourney....had a blast......thx again Gimp!!!
tbender
Apr 24 2006, 09:28 AM
The $880 acepot went unhit and was split 50-30-20 in a CTP. Sorry, I dont know who all got the 3 closest to split the money.
1st - Christian Goddard
2nd - ???
3rd - El Chile
Melissa
Apr 24 2006, 09:32 AM
Way to go Team Twisted...2nd and 4th in Pro..Vargas cashed in Pro Woman and Joe cashed in MA1 - nice shooting gang
Hell yeah... What ^ he said.... 5th, Nice shootin Joe!!!
Don't forget CP, second in Women! She's Twisted too! Good job entire Twisted Team!!!
tbender
Apr 24 2006, 09:35 AM
I don't want to know what time y'all left the park last night, but once again THANK YOU to all involved in making this year's States the great event it was.
Thanks!
tbender
Apr 24 2006, 09:38 AM
Looks like...
Jay Reading
Jim Davidson
JD Ramirez
Dagon Owen
Robby Bratten
took the spots.
Congrats guys!!
Jim and Robbie,
Do what you have to to get yourselves to Rock Hill. I want to hear about Robbie reaching the other side of the street during the distance competition at Winthrop.
Jim, remember, just tell the wife you're going "to the store" and will be back "later." :)
jdavidson
Apr 24 2006, 09:46 AM
Tony,
Don't worry. The wife was on board with no convincing needed... Robbie and I will be there, guaranteed. Robbie will likely be practicing for the distance contest every day for the next 6 months. :D
jdavidson
Apr 24 2006, 09:48 AM
I'll second Tony's thanks to the TD's and staff... The event (from a player's perspective) couldn't have gone any smoother. I am proud to be a part of an organization that is as dedicated to the sport as the HFDS is. :)
Erroneous
Apr 24 2006, 09:51 AM
Did CP get the bonus for winning the 3rd round?
Congrats to Jim & Robbie for qualifying!!! Should be a sweet trip...
tbender
Apr 24 2006, 09:59 AM
Awesome to hear Jim.
Xian Rocs
Apr 24 2006, 10:15 AM
The $880 acepot went unhit and was split 50-30-20 in a CTP. Sorry, I dont know who all got the 3 closest to split the money.
1st - Christian Goddard
2nd - ???
3rd - El Chile
Andres "Dre" Aya was 2nd
seewhere
Apr 24 2006, 10:41 AM
thanks to all invovled. Just curious what is the benefit again to tee times on Sunday?? :confused: I could swear I heard it was so people could get on the road early right ??
Twisted1
Apr 24 2006, 10:44 AM
Great Job Houston! Although I did not get to meet Paul Wall or Slim Thug while I was in town I still had a blast! Always nice to see my friends and this event was packed with great people and STAFFED BY GREAT PEOPLE. CONGRATS to TEAM TWISTED, you all did a great job! My Twisted Trucker Hat is off to all involved in this awesome event! :D
why was over half of the women paid, but less than a third of the open players payed?
not complaining, just curious
CUZ women are PRETTIER!!!! :D
scoop
Apr 24 2006, 10:49 AM
Who qualified for Am team? Great tourney....had a blast......thx again Gimp!!!
I think I heard the top 10% of AMs qualified --- so that would be
<table border="1"><tr><td> 1</td><td> Chris Leifeste </td><td>20069
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Chris Cortez </td><td>25486
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Ian Hovey </td><td>24943
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Brandon Elder </td><td>18667
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Joel Rotan </td><td>13827
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Russell Williams </td><td>28102
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>
The site says "Top 20% (up to 20, ties inclusive) competitors in MA1 that have not already qualified."......Since Z-boaz was a qualifier and some Texans went to BG I think the qualified players could go as deep as 15-20th place depending on who was already qualified.
seeker
Apr 24 2006, 10:54 AM
1st - Christian Goddard
2nd - Andres Aya
3rd - El Chile
thanks to all invovled. Just curious what is the benefit again to tee times on Sunday?? :confused: I could swear I heard it was so people could get on the road early right ??
Well at least I got 4 hours of sleep and 10 hours away from States before we got back to this point...
scoop
Apr 24 2006, 11:11 AM
The site says "Top 20% (up to 20, ties inclusive) competitors in MA1 that have not already qualified."......Since Z-boaz was a qualifier and some Texans went to BG I think the qualified players could go as deep as 15-20th place depending on who was already qualified.
Marty was the highest finishing Texas Am in Bowling Green, but was not in the top 20%.
Brandon Elder and Edward Palacios were previously qualified from ZBoaz, so the next two spots from Texas States would go to:
<table border="1"><tr><td> 13</td><td>Eric Salazar
</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>Marty Cooper
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>
thanks to all invovled. Just curious what is the benefit again to tee times on Sunday?? :confused: I could swear I heard it was so people could get on the road early right ??
I think the main idea is to showcase the pros and have a gallery etc for them in the afternoon but sometimes leads to getting out earlier.
Looks like, if you wanted to be home early, you could have been home by 5pm...............on Saturday :o
j/k :D
The site says "Top 20% (up to 20, ties inclusive) competitors in MA1 that have not already qualified."......Since Z-boaz was a qualifier and some Texans went to BG I think the qualified players could go as deep as 15-20th place depending on who was already qualified.
Marty was the highest finishing Texas Am in Bowling Green, but was not in the top 20%.
Brandon Elder and Edward Palacios were previously qualified from ZBoaz, so the next two spots from Texas States would go to:
<table border="1"><tr><td> 13</td><td>Eric Salazar
</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>Marty Cooper
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>
Well if those 2 were already in then by my math everyone who tied for 15th would qualify also.
scoop
Apr 24 2006, 11:24 AM
Yeah, I wasn't sure if you rounded up or down on the 20% number (if 20% = 12.4 players, do you take 12 or 13?).
It'd be sweet if the 15th place guys also qualified.
Yeah, I wasn't sure if you rounded up or down on the 20% number (if 20% = 12.4 players, do you take 12 or 13?).
It'd be sweet if the 15th place guys also qualified.
65 x 20% = 13...I think you still have to count the no show player...I hope they got in also :)
Which Cooper left a cooler? :p
Speaking of lost stuff.....
Tim Robinson lost his first run Champ Teebird before doubles on Friday on the tourney course (i believe on hole 10). It is red with black stamp and has a bunch of sigs from an Ace he hit. If found please PM me and I will get you in touch with him....thanks
scoop
Apr 24 2006, 11:41 AM
Which Cooper left a cooler? :p
That would be Marty.
Lyle O Ross
Apr 24 2006, 11:57 AM
There are a lot of Kudos going to Nez, Gimp and the HFDS team, and rightly so, but mention should also be made of all our guests! Not just thanks for coming and making this such a great event, but thanks for making disc golf in Houston Texas look great.
Last week was a busy week for HFDS, especially for Louis Hall, Neal Dambra and a host of other members who spent the week cleaning up after a very messy Easter weekend crowd. HFDS has often been complimented by the Parks Dept for keeping a clean and gentle presence at Tom Bass. The many out of town players that showed up helped to build on that reputation. Thank you!
Lastly, one of HFDS' goals this year was to try and make this tournament one of the most women friendly. Hence, extra effort was made to help in that area and to make women feel welcome and wanted. I saw more women out there playing than I've ever seen before. I hope that we made this a good event for you and please let us know what we did right and wrong, and can do in the future to keep you coming back!
vinnie
Apr 24 2006, 12:25 PM
you fellers did good!
many more good things than bad.
A all good thing event is almost impossible......you just can't make everyone happy.
I is happy :Dtared but happy :D
Interesting stats (with the preliminary ratings (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5455&year=2006&incl udeRatings=1#Open)):
-Jamie Callis shot all 3 rounds with a rating of 1000 or higher, and didn't cash.
-Des Reading shot one round rated over 1000. How many other women have done that?
-If I did the math right, you had to play 1010 golf to cash in Open (actually Joe Hague did that, and still didn't cash (sorting by average ratings doesn't exactly match sorting by scores)).
colin-evans
Apr 24 2006, 12:40 PM
[quote Robbie will likely be practicing for the distance contest every day for the next 6 months. :D
[/QUOTE]
Don't need much practice there D is GOOD.. PUTT Often... I enjoyed playing w/ Robbie on the Powell. Jump putt on 16? anyway boom drive. Congrats to all Qualifiers.
Pablo
Apr 24 2006, 12:46 PM
Nice job by the Okies this weekend :D
Lyle O Ross
Apr 24 2006, 12:46 PM
Interesting stats (with the preliminary ratings (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5455&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Open)):
-Jamie Callis shot all 3 rounds with a rating of 1000 or higher, and didn't cash.
-Des Reading shot one round rated over 1000. How many other women have done that?
-If I did the math right, you had to play 1010 golf to cash in Open (actually Joe Hague did that, and still didn't cash (sorting by average ratings doesn't exactly match sorting by scores)).
I think Nez said that they thought it might be the highest average rated participation of any event ever.
I think Nez said that they thought it might be the highest average rated participation of any event ever.
At least for the Open field (at least that's what I remember him saying), which sucks for those of us with lower ratings :(
Average rating of the 32 Open player: 989
Average rating 1st round 990
Average rating 2nd round 1001
average rating 3rd round 1000
Average of combined ratings (weighting round 3 as 1.5 rounds) 997
We always have room for more staff Jim :D
I think he said of any Texas States, not any event ever btw...
Melissa
Apr 24 2006, 01:00 PM
Did CP get the bonus for winning the 3rd round?
Congrats to Jim & Robbie for qualifying!!! Should be a sweet trip...
YEP!
We always have room for more staff Jim :D
I haven't given up on my fantasy of actually being competetive. I don't mind staffing, but it drives me nuts to staff, and not play.
We always have room for more staff Jim :D
I haven't given up on my fantasy of actually being competetive. I don't mind staffing, but it drives me nuts to staff, and not play.
We'll let you do more AND play :D lol
Nelle 18131
Apr 24 2006, 01:59 PM
GOOD JOB H-TOWN!!! Sweet job done by all!!
rocknhardstx
Apr 24 2006, 02:27 PM
You gotta love the pear flavored sports beans from the Pearland Chamber of Commerce........... in the players packs.
Had a great time, played with some great guys, got back to Corpus about 1am though.......... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Good showing Riverside Disc Golf in Victoria and Round Rock!!! You all need to come to the clash in July!!!
Speaking of Pearland, there were a few more funny stories from this weekend than normal, and I�ll share one now. My friend Dustin could not play this weekend because of a job interview during the middle of the day on Saturday. Someone made the comment that the PDGA has taken the dress code too far when they saw Dustin in full suit and tie at Tournament Central.
Anyway, I drove him around in the cart a bit and I kept introducing him as the Mayor of Pearland and several people believed me and said thanks for the jellybeans.
J_TEE
Apr 24 2006, 02:58 PM
lmao :D
When you dropped Dustin back off over on the Dragon with me he told me the story...with a puzzled look on his face, he said, "People kept thanking me for Jellybeans or something and I just kept saying your welcome"...he had no clue what they were talking about.. :)
bigbadude
Apr 24 2006, 03:23 PM
Great event Gimp! but we finished our third round before 3pm. :) and got home at 11pm :mad:that was the only thing I saw that could be better worked out. Maybe you all will think of us out of towners next time. ;)
tbender
Apr 24 2006, 03:51 PM
When you dropped Dustin back off over on the Dragon with me he told me the story...with a puzzled look on his face, he said, "People kept thanking me for Jellybeans or something and I just kept saying your welcome"...he had no clue what they were talking about.. :)
Ok, the first part was funny. This makes it classic. :)
Now then, did he get the job?
I think he was interviewing for an internship...he still has 3 semesters left at Law School.
Did he get the internship? No clue if he is gonna go that route after his newly found passion for being a politician :D
So Wilmonts Treasure was never found???
I was looking on the horseshoe #14 for it, but couldn't find it during my round....I think thats where it was tho.
ONCE again the Houston crew did a HELL of a job....Thanks for getting me out of there in time to catch my plane...wish I could have stuck around to THANK everyone in person. I've said it before, if you guys were located in the middle of the country you would get over 300 players, cuz every year you run a VERY GOOD EVENT!
scoop
Apr 24 2006, 05:57 PM
I finished playing in time to watch the Lead Pro card play 12 more holes. Then jumped in my car and headed home around 6:00. Was home before 9:00.
Of course, I didn't need to stick around for payout either.
tbender
Apr 24 2006, 06:11 PM
So Wilmonts Treasure was never found???
I was looking on the #14 for it, but couldn't find it during my round....I think thats where it was tho.
Not found. At the end of the ceremony there was a dash to the revealed location. Emily and Burl drove over there, but then ran down #14 backwards instead of running the other way. I ran. Andi and Don rode with Nez on the golf cart. Nez found it and gave us all a half-dollar for our meager efforts.
It was in approximately the same spot as the original #13's basket, about 100-150 past the current #13 basket and centered in the ditch (which didn't exist at that time).
ching_lizard
Apr 24 2006, 08:38 PM
Okay - I think all final results for the tournament are now up with the correct divisions showing under the correct tournament heading.
Pro pool results and ratings at: PDGA Tour results page. (http://www.pdgatour.com/results.php)
Advanced results and ratings at: Advanced A-tier results (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5481)
Int & Rec results and ratings at: Am B-tier side (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5846)
sandalman
Apr 24 2006, 09:17 PM
so the final results for this event were post #666 and were posted by the evil overlord chinglizard himself... i knew the only way they could pull off such a perfect event was to sell out to satan.
Great event Gimp! but we finished our third round before 3pm. :) and got home at 11pm :mad:that was the only thing I saw that could be better worked out. Maybe you all will think of us out of towners next time. ;)
Well the park people weren't too cool to boot us out. I was 3 people away from signing out my prizes when we were told that we had 15 minutes to leave the park. That wouldn't have been too bad, except for the fact that I had a four and a half hour ride back home to look forward to and it was 9:00 pm! (oh, and I had to be at work for 6 am /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif)
Great event !! I had a blast and met many cool people. This was my first PDGA tournament and it was awesome. I just wish my driving wouldn't have been so crappy during the third round. I had too many 300+ foot upshots (but I did birdie hole 17 at Powell, 26 East, with a whole lot of luck). Thanks to every person who helped out. I'll be looking for some more Texas tourneys to attend.
the_kid
Apr 24 2006, 11:10 PM
Well that was definantly one of the smoothest events I have played and I am really tired after this weekend and picking up all the OB string and helping out with taking the tourney's baskets back to Macgregor. Anyway thanks to Nez,Gimp,Neal,Ed,Larry,Scott,Dad, and the many others who helped make this event possible.
You know it is a tough field when you make 21 out of 24 30fters and don't cash. I guess a 966 1st round will do that to you.
Also Congrats to Barry and Des on thier wins as well as my teamates Jimmy D and Robbie B on qualifying for Usdgc. I guess I will have to get my invite later this year so we can take a ROAD TRIP! :D
ching_lizard
Apr 25 2006, 12:12 AM
Matt - I can't mention often enough how appreciative everyone has been at the fact that your dad did so much to get these courses in the fine condition that they were in! Wow! Thanks! And thanks to you for helping clean it all up again too!
It is really gratifying to read about all of the positive feedback from this event...it was really great to hear it from almost every player I met all weekend too!!!
Every single one of the volunteers (and there were dozens of them) deserves to take credit for the success of this tournament. And for all of the folks that either contributed to sponsorship themselves, or brought in some sponsors...every little bit helped to make a big difference! Nearly $22,000 in total payout to all divisions ($21,933 to be exact) and just over $12,000 to the Pro divisions.
I wish we had finished this up a little sooner in the day though...but we didn't run the MM1 division on the West course this year, and so we had a ton of Ams to run through on the East course. Oh well...we'll do a better job of it next year!
I hope that everyone that attended this year found that it was worth their trip to Tom Bass just for the atmosphere of last weekend's tournament!
I wish we had finished this up a little sooner in the day though...
How would you know what time we finished up Larry...
MarkBowman
Apr 25 2006, 09:34 AM
Anyone find Mark's 3rd place Pro Grandmaster trophy glass? We unpacked and can't find it.
Thanks to Neal and Jennifer for the place to stay, thanks to the staff especially the person who kept ice cold water on the courses,
Congratulations to my partner Paige!!!!! now sponsored!
great meeting new friends like Jessica. See all you ladies at TWC
I have it Mark. Email me at
[email protected] with an address, and I will send it to ya this week.
bigbadude
Apr 25 2006, 09:57 AM
You didn't need to stick around and pick up some cash, and did you get to throw the CTP for the $$ I did, and left the park at 8:00P.M.
MarkBowman
Apr 25 2006, 10:05 AM
Thank's!!! Mark was in charge of packing all my raffle winnings and I guess he left his trophy.
cgflesner
Apr 25 2006, 11:12 AM
Is this event going to loose the NT status due to the lack of Pro participation next year? :confused:
Do you think it should Chris or are you just causing trouble again - $4,500 added cash to pro divisions and a great event and this is your comment lmao�
cgflesner
Apr 25 2006, 11:58 AM
30 open players compared to 60-120 is a **** week feild, and I would be suprised if the PDGA allowed this to be a NT next year. No reason to get all offended nothing you could have done.
I hope that it is a NT next year, but if there is no pro support for the event then why would these touring pros come back for the smallest NT event that I have ever seen. The ADV division had double the numbers than the MPO field did. :( :confused: :mad:
I hope that it is a NT next year, but if there is no pro support for the event then why would these touring pros come back for the smallest NT event that I have ever seen. The ADV division had double the numbers than the MPO field did.
The Southwest is full of ADV guys and there is very limited Open numbers in this part of the country...There are not very many PRO's in this area. It's far from the event's fault, because I have been to ALOT of NT's and Houston actually puts on one of the better events out there.
Also Houston is blocked off from most of the country, being in the Gulf coast, unless you fly, its hard to get to plus way expensive due to >$3/gallon gas prices. The H-Town crew that has bee bringing the Texas States to us are as compitent as there is out there. Usually the NT's you see getting near 100 are in great locations that are easily accessible (BG middle of the country, PHX only 4 hours from LA, GLO MI has a TON of players) I'm glad we have at least 1 NT in Tejas a year to give the Texicans a chance to qualify for USDGC.
suemac
Apr 25 2006, 12:12 PM
Will the Advanced Ladies rounds be rated?
The only thing wrong with this event is that silly outlined state of Tejas on the hill.....maybe one day us OKIE's will tag the REAL GREAT STATE on that hill :D
http://www.nataliedee.com/041703/oklahoma.jpg
letho
Apr 25 2006, 12:22 PM
I saw those cards with the players pictures on them and had a quick question about them. Were the cards just randomly labeled or was it a coincidence that the Black Queens were Ron Russell and Cam Todd. :eek:
Lyle O Ross
Apr 25 2006, 12:25 PM
I saw those cards with the players pictures on them and had a quick question about them. Were the cards just randomly labeled or was it a coincidence that the Black Queens were Ron Russell and Cam Todd. :eek:
Only Nez knows....
Will the Advanced Ladies rounds be rated?
They were rated when all the scores were under one tournament tab. All you have to do is look at similar rounds from people who played in your pool to get the estimated ratings�
It may be something Larry can fix in the admin program � I�ll let him do it since he has been handling these lol
esalazar
Apr 25 2006, 01:00 PM
Are there or will there be any more of the cards available? The players pack playing cards!! I was not able to attend :confused: and would like to get my hands on some of these!!
The Southwest is full of ADV guys and there is very limited Open numbers in this part of the country...There are not very many PRO's in this area.
I'm also disapointed in the pro turnout, and it'd be nice to figure what to change to draw more players, but I'm not sure I buy Kevin's argument.
As of two weeks ago there were 127 Pro men registered with the PDGA in TX. If half of them show up, plus draw some players from further away it would be a decent field.
I combined the Pro Open and Masters fields, and looked at numbers. We actually got a higher percentage of players from Louisiana then from TX. Of course TX is a huge state, (Atlanta, GA is closer to Houston the El Paso is), but I believe the vast majority of TX players are in Houston, Austin or Dallas/FW areas.
<table border="1"><tr><td>State</td><td> PDGA Registered</td><td> Played Tourney</td><td> percentage
</td></tr><tr><td>TX</td><td> 127</td><td> 32*</td><td> 25%
</td></tr><tr><td>OK</td><td> 34</td><td> 2</td><td> 6%
</td></tr><tr><td>LA</td><td> 12</td><td> 4</td><td> 33%</tr></td></table>
It'd be nice to get a 40%-50% turnout from our own state. I don't think that's really unreasonable.
It's far from the event's fault, because I have been to ALOT of NT's and Houston actually puts on one of the better events out there.
I'm guessing that there's just too many events in the area, and a high entry fee event that's going to attract out of state top players like Barry and Kevin might actually be a detriment to many of the lower rated pros.
*I did not look to see if any of those pros played in GMs, or Advanced... I also just noticed that half the pros in TX have ratings less than 955.
Are there or will there be any more of the cards available? The players pack playing cards!! I was not able to attend :confused: and would like to get my hands on some of these!!
PM Nez I am sure he has some for sale...
yes there are still card packs left. Nez has them and I might try to get some. Cool collectible item.
esalazar
Apr 25 2006, 01:16 PM
sweet, thanks!!
15 1000 plus players at Waco last year� 13 at States this year� Am I right that Waco petitioned to have a lower NT entry fee last year?
19 out of 56 paid at Waco last year
13 out of 31 paid at States this year
Did the fact that Barry showed up scare people away??? It seems to me the bottom part of those Waco scores may have included more people that were playing for the �experience� last year�
rhett
Apr 25 2006, 03:14 PM
Do you have to petition to charge less for your NT?
Just think if you charged $50 and added all that cash. You would be paying out like 500%. :)
Too bad all tournaments are judged only on the amount paid to 1st place in MPO. It would be nice if we could get a "cultural paradigm shift" in this regard and judge events on some kind of overall quality, which it sounds like Texas States had in spades. Thing is, you can't distill that into a single stat so it's a lot harder to express.
I'm putting Texas States on my list of "big tourneys to travel to some day". It sounds like it was a blast.
Lyle O Ross
Apr 25 2006, 03:35 PM
Do you have to petition to charge less for your NT?
Just think if you charged $50 and added all that cash. You would be paying out like 500%. :)
Too bad all tournaments are judged only on the amount paid to 1st place in MPO. It would be nice if we could get a "cultural paradigm shift" in this regard and judge events on some kind of overall quality, which it sounds like Texas States had in spades. Thing is, you can't distill that into a single stat so it's a lot harder to express.
I'm putting Texas States on my list of "big tourneys to travel to some day". It sounds like it was a blast.
Next year... I'll buy you a beer! You'll like it Rhett, I promise.
rhett
Apr 25 2006, 03:40 PM
Next year... I'll buy you a beer! You'll like it Rhett, I promise.
Make it a Henry Weinhart's Premium Root Beer and I'll think about it. :)
Pizza God
Apr 25 2006, 03:47 PM
Don't forget all those "PDGA Texas Pro's" are of master/GrandMasters and above age's.
I am included in that stat.
I was unable to attend do to family commentments. I would have loved to be there.
I still sent them money for sponsorship though.
Nothing against Houston, but when you compair Waco courses to Houston courses, which tournament would you choose.
I did count in the Masters division, but not GMs. And since I'm new here, I don't know from the names who the old farts are.
Haven't played Waco yet, so I can't compare courses. Many Houston courses are admittedly substandard, but the courses for this tournament are pretty **** good.
krazyeye
Apr 25 2006, 03:55 PM
Saint Arnold makes a pretty good root beer.
esalazar
Apr 25 2006, 04:02 PM
Haven't played Waco yet, so I can't compare courses. Many Houston courses are admittedly substandard, but the courses for this tournament are pretty **** good.
The Bass courses are boring!!too long and open!!
You also have to understand those dallas boys are scared to leave the metroplex area. You also had schultz, feldman, and sprague signed up early and none of those Dallas cats are gonna drive to htown to get whooped up on by the top pros for a buck twenty five or whatever the pro entry was. You combine a tough course and top pros and the "pros" we have in Texas will hide out in the barn with a few exceptions. The nt status was great to have because it brought in the pros we had and boosted up the player package we recieved and gave a little incintive for sponsorship that added to pay out. I was checking some of the box scores for other nt events and for the majority of the pros listed, I had never heard of them. They must stay around their home turf and not travel very far to play. Texas is about the size of 4 average states, so its a long way to htown. especially coming from the north or west. From el paso it takes about 10-11 hours down I-10 and from the panhandle it takes about the same. Would it have made you feel better if id have played pro and some of my other buddies so that there were more "pros" playing? A look at some of the box scores for some other tournies shows that a lot of the people who ply pro are not truly pro caliber players. Don't judge an event on the pro turn out, but the ratings of the pros who do turn out. :D
PS Way to go Joe, it made me proud to see a local on the lead card the final 27.
yobyug
Apr 25 2006, 04:09 PM
Didn't you have to be there....to put in your two cents....esp. since there were new holes YOU haven't played....Broke Back Rain Man! :D
:) You know I still love ya DAD! :)
LouMoreno
Apr 25 2006, 04:10 PM
The Bass courses are boring!!too long and open!!
Did a Round Rocker just say that? :D
yobyug
Apr 25 2006, 04:11 PM
Good point Jeff! :cool:
tbender
Apr 25 2006, 04:12 PM
The Bass courses are boring!!too long and open!!
Did a Round Rocker just say that? :D
That's what I was thinking too...
:)
yobyug
Apr 25 2006, 04:12 PM
LOL!!!!! Get him Lou!!! See you @ LOSO!
yobyug
Apr 25 2006, 04:14 PM
Hey Tony.....No Fender Benders @ LOSO....PLEASE! Unless I'm not on your card....then it's all good! :D
wow, must be a slow work day, lots of people on line.
tbender
Apr 25 2006, 04:16 PM
Hey Tony.....No Fender Benders @ LOSO....PLEASE! Unless I'm not on your card....then it's all good! :D
Did you notice on Sunday they replaced all the extra numbers on the posts with easy-to-read ones? :o:confused: :)
I found out that Kat pulled the same thing at last year's States too...
m_conners
Apr 25 2006, 04:18 PM
GOOD SHOOTING goes out to Kevin McCoy and Courtney Peavy!!
yobyug
Apr 25 2006, 04:22 PM
What's werk? :cool:
dude, mccoy made a run for first and almost had it. He and hatfield both played better than the lead card the final 27. I had a great time watching them play, they were on fire.
Texas is about the size of 4 average states, so its a long way to htown. especially coming from the north or west. From el paso it takes about 10-11 hours down I-10 and from the panhandle it takes about the same.
True, but aren't most Texicans in east Texas? D/FW, Austin, San Antonio, Waco, Round Rock, and Corpus are all a reasonable drive. Are you telling me that a large number of the TX pros don't live in those areas?
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Would it have made you feel better if id have played pro and some of my other buddies so that there were more "pros" playing?
No. You're an 890 rated Am, you've got no business playing pro, unless you really want to donate just to get a chance to play with Feldberg the first round. As it turned out, you could say the exact same thing about me (except I got to play with Barry). Is that what's happening? All the sub 950 pros were afraid to play so the field was small but very strong? Next year, all the sub-970's will be afraid to play making it even more exclusive, then the year after that, nobody rated under 1000?
Seriously, what would get more local pros to come to the event?
yobyug
Apr 25 2006, 04:42 PM
Glad to see you can/get to speak for all pros.......now I see why you live in H-town....... :cool:
I wish I would have been able to see the top cards in pro play, that was a huge reason for me going to the event in the first place. Unfortunately my tee time coincided with the tee times of the top dawgs and I didn't get a chance to see them make a single throw. Not complaining, though. I'll take being in the lead card any time over watching other people play. I just wish I would have been able to check out their techniques.
yobyug
Apr 25 2006, 04:46 PM
And I shot better on the tourney course than you...with a two stroke penalty due to a local taking me in the wrong direction........with my 909 rating! :D
I never claimed to speak for anyone but myself. I answered a question that (I think) was directed at me.
yobyug
Apr 25 2006, 04:59 PM
Next year, all the sub-970's will be afraid to play making it even more exclusive, then the year after that, nobody rated under 1000?
This is the line that gets me! Afraid....you got to be kidding!
the_kid
Apr 25 2006, 04:59 PM
Ok next year in the Pro divisions I am calling for three rounds then a cut for those who didn't make the cash. Thos who did cash get to play in a final 9 to try to make a move up into higher money.
I sure wish the 3rd-5th cards would've been highlighted as we were shooting better then the 1st and 2nd cards. :o
Yellow rope at Bass and lower entry fees and more will show up :)
(well Dallas wont show but we are talking about the Open MEN'S division anyway :D)
scoop
Apr 25 2006, 05:01 PM
Haven't played Waco yet, so I can't compare courses. Many Houston courses are admittedly substandard, but the courses for this tournament are pretty **** good.
The Bass courses are boring!!too long and open!!
A guy from Round Rock did not just say that! :eek:
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Edited to add: I wrote this immediately after reading Ef-train's post, and before reading Sweet Lou's.
the_kid
Apr 25 2006, 05:04 PM
Haven't played Waco yet, so I can't compare courses. Many Houston courses are admittedly substandard, but the courses for this tournament are pretty **** good.
The Bass courses are boring!!too long and open!!
A guy from Round Rock did not just say that! :eek:
The touney course wasn't boring for me. Three OBs, two bounce outs, and 1 wierd spit out thing made it "fun" for me. :D
prairie_dawg
Apr 25 2006, 05:05 PM
Ok next year in the Pro divisions I am calling for three rounds then a cut for those who didn't make the cash. Thos who did cash get to play in a final 9 to try to make a move up into higher money.
I sure wish the 3rd-5th cards would've been highlighted as we were shooting better then the 1st and 2nd cards. :o
Matt,
You didn't shoot better than Coda and Kevin. Only Feldberg tied them. Get your facts straight yungun :D:cool:
Next year, all the sub-970's will be afraid to play making it even more exclusive, then the year after that, nobody rated under 1000?
This is the line that gets me!
Read it again, I was asking if that is the reason for the turnout. Notice the question mark? Also you left off the preceding two sentences. Here's what I wrote in context:
"Is that what's happening? All the sub 950 pros were afraid to play so the field was small but very strong? Next year, all the sub-970's will be afraid to play making it even more exclusive, then the year after that, nobody rated under 1000?"
I retract the word "All" from the 2nd sentence. There were 3 sub-950 Pros playing in the open division. Also two in the 950s, and 5 in the 960s; one of them cashed.
Afraid....you got to be kidding!
Ok, maybe "afraid" is the wrong word. Maybe "economically disinclined" would be better.
Erroneous
Apr 25 2006, 05:14 PM
The Bass courses are boring!!too long and open!!
Did a Round Rocker just say that? :D
That's what I was thinking too...
:)
Yeah, you should be used to crushing big open shots...
How much different were the courses this year?
krazyeye
Apr 25 2006, 05:17 PM
Pretty much the same as last year.
yobyug
Apr 25 2006, 05:22 PM
Thank you. :D
the_kid
Apr 25 2006, 05:22 PM
Ok next year in the Pro divisions I am calling for three rounds then a cut for those who didn't make the cash. Thos who did cash get to play in a final 9 to try to make a move up into higher money.
I sure wish the 3rd-5th cards would've been highlighted as we were shooting better then the 1st and 2nd cards. :o
Matt,
You didn't shoot better than Coda and Kevin. Only Feldberg tied them. Get your facts straight yungun :D:cool:
Actually Feldburg beat them by one as well as Jd and Dagon. Then Avery shot a -2 and Robbie B had a -1. Jim D was -1 going into the dragon but had a hiccup. I had two Obs in the last few holes or I would've been in a little better shape.
The scores on our card after the Wilmont were really tight with Dave and avery at -1 and jim and I at even.
Last but not least dagon Owen and Jd shot -3s from the 5th card with Dagon being -4 after the willy. The course record is a -5 without the horseshoe hole which he took a 6 on so he had a -6 in his grasp. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
One signature type hole added to the Tourney was about it...
If we could clone Louis we could do some yellow rope on a few holes :D
the_kid
Apr 25 2006, 05:24 PM
Hey Gimp I talked to Nez and I think the 757 will be more like a 957 next year on a pennisula green. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
One signature type hole added to the Tourney was about it...
Yeah it was called the ROUND KILLER....I found that out the hard way the last round with a 6 on it....**** ME for being too greedy!
krazyeye
Apr 25 2006, 05:26 PM
I forgot about the 757 Monster. At 957 it'll need a new name.
The following USADGC [www.amnationals.com] invitations were distributed from the results of the 11th Texas State Disc Golf Championships:
Based on a field of 65 MA1 players, top 20% (13 players) were:
- Chris Leifeste
- Chris Cortez
- Ian Hovey
- Brandon Elder
- Joel Rotan
- Russell Williams
- Ryan Sawyer
- Brian Pearson
- Edward Palacios
- Richard Hardman
- Jose Ossa
- Casey Guthrie
- Eric Salazar
Due to some confusion during the awards ceremonies, these invitations were not handed out in person, and are being mailed to the recipients this week.
Congratulations!
sandalman
Apr 25 2006, 05:34 PM
Nothing against Houston, but when you compair Waco courses to Houston courses, which tournament would you choose.
both. they are very unique experiences. the Beast is a great course. one could easily make the case the Olde Cameron is old-school golf with its bird-fest of 250 (and less) footers. of course you cant throw as far as other masters players (or even advanced masters! :D), so i can understand your preference for Waco. Tom Bass is an awesome course. it might be big, but you still need placement. shanking a drive can hurt severely. Texas States at Tom Bass is as close as you'll come to disc golf as an athletic challenge.
The following USADGC [www.amnationals.com] invitations were distributed from the results of the 11th Texas State Disc Golf Championships:
Based on a field of 65 MA1 players, top 20% (13 players) were:
- Chris Leifeste
- Chris Cortez
- Ian Hovey
- Brandon Elder
- Joel Rotan
- Russell Williams
- Ryan Sawyer
- Brian Pearson
- Edward Palacios
- Richard Hardman
- Jose Ossa
- Casey Guthrie
- Eric Salazar
Due to some confusion during the awards ceremonies, these invitations were not handed out in person, and are being mailed to the recipients this week.
Congratulations!
Nez,
I was told two of those guys already qualified. You may want to re-check that list if you didn't already.
scoop
Apr 25 2006, 05:41 PM
Yep --- at ZBoaz Open in Feb:
Brandon Elder finished in 3rd (field of 56 MA1 players) and Edward Palacios finished in 11th.
ok. I will check with USADGC staff to verify
I have the list at home Nez and had it at the event but we just never talked about it lol...
I think the perception that Bass is open and boring is WAY overrated (and what�s up with Bass with a lake Round Rock saying this). You really need to play strong golf to do well out there and stay out of trouble. Look at the scoring spreads between the divisions�
We set up some yellow rope holes at MacGregor one year and I have played Winthrop with the full course installed, so if toughening up the course is something the PDGA would like to see I think between the entire crew we could make some VERY fun risk reward holes out there.
I hope some of the other staff from this year�s Texas States will be open to some new thoughts on format for next year when we start planning. Having a full year to plan the 12th annual and having been at my job for well over a year should make it so I can spend some time out there as well this year doing prep :)
I believe we would have had a larger pro field if the entry fee were lower, say $75. What do others think? I�m not even sure we would be allowed to lower it and keep NT status�
krazyeye
Apr 25 2006, 05:59 PM
I think the perception that Bass is open and boring is WAY overrated (and what�s up with Bass with a lake Round Rock saying this). You really need to play strong golf to do well out there and stay out of trouble. Look at the scoring spreads between the divisions�
I agree shot placement is still very important. I threw some of my longest shots ever this weekend but they weren't in the best spots. I'd say Bass tests your shot selection and placement pretty well. Baskets within ten or fifteen feet of OB on 500 foot holes. That ain't easy.
letho
Apr 25 2006, 06:30 PM
I saw those cards with the players pictures on them and had a quick question about them. Were the cards just randomly labeled or was it a coincidence that the Black Queens were Ron Russell and Cam Todd. :eek:
BUMP!
Maybe Nez missed it.
Those cards almost brought a tear to my eye! :D
yobyug
Apr 25 2006, 06:44 PM
O......the small handbooks were the shnit!!!! Joe Rotan said he was taking his back to Ok and proposing those for worlds.....A GREAT IDEA......If a disk wasn't in my hand, that book was!! If you played the course blind....the book was a stroke-saver! Mucho thanks to the creater and executioner of that project....was as nice as the USDGC Winthorp book I saw earlier in the year. I hope it becomes a trend! KUDOS !!!
O......the small handbooks were the shnit!!!! Joe Rotan said he was taking his back to Ok and proposing those for worlds.....A GREAT IDEA......If a disk wasn't in my hand, that book was!! If you played the course blind....the book was a stroke-saver! Mucho thanks to the creater and executioner of that project....was as nice as the USDGC Winthorp book I saw earlier in the year. I hope it becomes a trend! KUDOS !!!
That would be Mr. Nez himself � all the VERY impressive printing was done by Mr. Nez as well as the SUPER cool cards. There can not be enough accolades coming his way this year for some of the special touches added to this event. While I know he was disappointed with some of the stuff that was not �perfect� we pulled off a memorable event and it would not have been even close to as cool without him. WAY TO GO NEZ!!!
Every person who helped was a KEY to this events success this year.
- All the people who helped Louis out on the course (Neal, Bart, etc etc etc)
- Neal for the great logo and with help planning the event
- Susan for adding extra perks to the ladies, tye dying shirts, planning etc
- Scott for help at tournament central, the bridge and loading and unloading all the STUFF
- Ed for non-stop staffing support at tourney central � while TD�s and volunteers came and went Ed was there the ENTIRE time
- Larry for the great scoring work and pre-event planning as well as Friday night poker (and Melissa!)
- Rick for help staffing and raising money on TOP of already being the title sponsor
- Stimpy for all he has done and continues to do!
- Conrad and Dianne for being spotters
- Cong for doing that Cong thing he does so well
- Richard for helping with 2nd day water and taking control of the mobile beer garden
- Fuzzy for handing out dragon minis and getting the reddest neck I have ever seen
- Water boy (I�m bad with names) for the help on day number one
- And thank you to every other person who helped with a box or the smash and grab ending, particularly Boo who starting throwing stuff into his truck for us � THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND HELP!
I'm sure I forgot someone - somebody help me out here :cool:
james_mccaine
Apr 25 2006, 07:07 PM
Pat, I gotta disagree with the Bass Waco comparison. However, I think the nature of the course has next to nothing to do with low pro turnout and nothing the HFDS crew did had anything to do with the low pro turnout. It was out of their hands, and in my estimation (I unfortunately did not have to wait for money), the HFDS crew did a truly outstanding job.
As for the courses, I think quite a few of the non-permanent tourney holes were excellent. However, many of the permanent holes, though very well designed given the boring land, have absolutely no risk or penalty for an inaccurate drive. I would love to see an effort to toughen some of those holes up. I do realize it is a lot of work, but I don't view many of those permanent holes as championship (or NT) quality.
yobyug
Apr 25 2006, 07:09 PM
Hats off to you Nez........that was very classy and impressive! :cool:
ching_lizard
Apr 25 2006, 08:43 PM
The problem of the ratings for Advanced Women is now fixed...looks like the "courses played" settings were wiped out for FW1 during one of the numerous attempts to get the displayed payout numbers right.
I think I've finally got all of the players results, in the 3 different tournaments we hosted, with the correct payout showing the LSS bonus amounts included, and all of the ratings settings about right. Let me know if I've goofed it up again! :eek:
ching_lizard
Apr 25 2006, 08:54 PM
O......the small handbooks were the shnit!!!! Joe Rotan said he was taking his back to Ok and proposing those for worlds.....A GREAT IDEA......If a disk wasn't in my hand, that book was!! If you played the course blind....the book was a stroke-saver! Mucho thanks to the creater and executioner of that project....was as nice as the USDGC Winthorp book I saw earlier in the year. I hope it becomes a trend! KUDOS !!!
That would be Mr. Nez himself � all the VERY impressive printing was done by Mr. Nez as well as the SUPER cool cards. There can not be enough accolades coming his way this year for some of the special touches added to this event. While I know he was disappointed with some of the stuff that was not �perfect� we pulled off a memorable event and it would not have been even close to as cool without him. WAY TO GO NEZ!!!
Every person who helped was a KEY to this events success this year.
Man! Gimp's got that right! Nez was super instrumental and burned up two of his color printers getting all of the signage, programs, maps, scorecards, etc. all done before the event. I was sick to my stomach when we at first believed that someone had stolen his laptop - what an ultimate tragedy that might've turned out to be!
I had the scoring sheets on my unit, but most everything else for the tournament and Dave's own business was on his! Glad to hear that it was just temporarily packed away during the mad hustle out of the park Sunday night.
You think my neck was red...you should see the burn on the backs of my legs :( :D
prairie_dawg
Apr 25 2006, 11:17 PM
That would be Mr. Nez himself � all the VERY impressive printing was done by Mr. Nez as well as the SUPER cool cards. There can not be enough accolades coming his way this year for some of the special touches added to this event. While I know he was disappointed with some of the stuff that was not �perfect� we pulled off a memorable event and it would not have been even close to as cool without him. WAY TO GO NEZ!!!
Every person who helped was a KEY to this events success this year.
- All the people who helped Louis out on the course (Neal, Bart, etc etc etc)
- Neal for the great logo and with help planning the event
- Susan for adding extra perks to the ladies, tye dying shirts, planning etc
- Scott for help at tournament central, the bridge and loading and unloading all the STUFF
- Ed for non-stop staffing support at tourney central � while TD�s and volunteers came and went Ed was there the ENTIRE time
- Larry for the great scoring work and pre-event planning as well as Friday night poker (and Melissa!)
- Rick for help staffing and raising money on TOP of already being the title sponsor
- Stimpy for all he has done and continues to do!
- Conrad and Dianne for being spotters
- Cong for doing that Cong thing he does so well
- Richard for helping with 2nd day water and taking control of the mobile beer garden
- Fuzzy for handing out dragon minis and getting the reddest neck I have ever seen
- Water boy (I�m bad with names) for the help on day number one
- And thank you to every other person who helped with a box or the smash and grab ending, particularly Boo who starting throwing stuff into his truck for us � THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND HELP!
Defintely a very well run tourney. I was very impressed with all the support staff and how much was raised in 6 short months for a NT. Look what they did in 8 months for Pro Worlds. HFDS Rules!!!!! :cool:
sandalman
Apr 25 2006, 11:21 PM
hey marshall ray, it was good to see ya down there, even if you were working instead of playing.
if a disc lands under a picnic table, can the table be moved in order to get a better stance? or must you play it where it lies because its your fault you threw it under there in the first place?
aixsponsa
Apr 25 2006, 11:36 PM
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- Fuzzy for handing out dragon minis and getting the reddest neck I have ever seen
- And thank you to every other person who helped with a box or the smash and grab ending, particularly Boo who starting throwing stuff into his truck for us � THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND HELP!
What are you talking about ??? Fuzzy was BORN with that neck. :DThanks to Gimp & all of the people who stayed to insure that we all got our payout under the street lamps.That was a mad dash for ten minutes, that's for sure. Had a great time.
yobyug
Apr 26 2006, 12:56 AM
How many mini's were handed out? I wanted one......just couldn't find it in my heart to stroke for it! :D