hawkgammon
Jul 27 2006, 10:07 PM
I'm glad to see you are finally expressing your true internal thoughts. Many people on here also wonder how you are actually going to beat me. Exactly how long have you had this irrational fear of dancing bears?
Dick
Jul 27 2006, 11:43 PM
dancing bears? are you on pain meds again?? :D
hawkgammon
Jul 28 2006, 06:52 AM
dancing bears?
You're the one who needs pain meds considering how things have been going for you. I was referencing your gambling (http://dl3.glitter-graphics.net/pub/12/12608l4kouqrdqn.gif) associate who you are now avoiding like the plague.
hawkgammon
Jul 28 2006, 09:42 AM
From EBAY:
The Load only garners a
96.9% Positive
rating from users who have conducted business with him. :eek: :o
Dick
Jul 28 2006, 12:11 PM
yeah, that's a loooong story. i bought something from this idiot and gavce him a neutral instead of a positive. so he gave me a negative for giving him a nuetral! i keep meaning to contact ebay about that.
hawkgammon
Jul 28 2006, 01:14 PM
GO HAWK GO... GO HAWK GO..
-Jay Gobrecht
Uncompensated celebrity endorsement.
Dick
Jul 29 2006, 12:38 AM
sure. we're curious why your "celebrity" wouldn't post it himself? maybe too embarassed to associate with you publicly?
see you tomorrow. bring your A game, sucka! you'll need it! :cool:
hawkgammon
Jul 29 2006, 06:55 AM
He, like your course contact, seems to lack the skills to post here. I was merely quoting an email.
Did you ever accept the bet from young Colin?
hawkgammon
Jul 29 2006, 07:48 PM
<font color="green">Does The Load Make The Right Move By Passing on the Bet With Young Colin? </font>
Could <font color="red"> Your Disc Golf Hero </font> Make Some Noise At Seneca?
It was hot, sticky and buggy today. Rich and I both shot disappointing 67's in the first round from the long tees to a mixed set of pins. Rich said he couldn't putt, and I couldn't do anything but putt. We were five strokes behind the bottom of the middle card, so clearly we were out of the $.
i will beat hawk AND cash. stand by for greatness!
- The Load: 7-20-06
Having failed at the second part of that boast The Load tries to save face and keep his string of sanctioned victories over me at Seneca intact. Naturally we ended up on the same card for the second round from the shorts with the cushion of the Rockburn Course Pro Billstream four strokes back in solid DFL. On our first hole I pick up two strokes on The Load as I gun up the steep hill and convert a 10' putt for the deuce :D while The Load blows by once and then hits the chains and plops out for a four. :) :mad:From there it was a see-saw battle with The Load once or twice taking a one stroke lead, and then me regaining the lead etc. With four holes to play I had retaken the one stroke lead. I pick up a deuce :cool:on on fourth to last hole putting me two strokes up as The Load takes another three. I turn to Rich and give hime the throat slashing sign showing him that it is over with three holes to play. On the third to last hole I botch my drive taking a four :( to The Load's three leaving Rich one behind and feeling giddy. On our second to last hole The Load attempts some odd spike sky hyzer which lands short and wide of the hole. I take a more direct route, but it's matching threes. On the last hole The Load throws a hopeful face saving hail mary drive for the tie and actually lands within 10' of the basket. Stepping up in true hero fashion I execute a similar tight drive through the trees to land 12' away but behind some trees. A matching set of threes leaves me with yet another empty moral victory:
<font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero </font>: 67-61 (128) :D
<font color="green"> The Load </font>: 67-62 (129) :o:mad:
i will beat hawk AND cash. stand by for greatness!
- The Load: 7-20-06
The Load goes 0-2 for his boast goals, and would have owed young Colin $20. :D I don't think Dr. Empty will be making anymore bets with the public after this.
The Load managed to avoid sole DFL as Billstream doinked a three foot drop in halfway through the round. :o
The head to head record of lesson given beatings stands at:
<font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero </font>-9 wins
<font color="green"> The Load </font>-4 wins
and one tie.
The current bet standings are:
The Load : Events-17, Total Winnings-$127.50, Average Winnings-$7.50
<font color="red"> Your Disc Golf Hero </font> : Events-19, Total Winnings-$101, Average Winnings-$5.32
It's just a matter of time until I retake the lead here as The Load seems incapable of beating me head to head at this point, and unless he goes off and plays some more lame events against players who don't even complete their rounds, I'll keep him from ca$hing more than me, and I just need to pick-up some pocket change here and there.
I'm a big fat loser!
- The Load at the completion of today's battle.
Dick
Jul 29 2006, 10:27 PM
actually Steve Simpson ran out of gas or beer( or both) and fell inot a tie with you hawk, but he misadded his card taking a 2 stroke penalty and ended up behind bill and I, saving us from dfl. tough going out there today, but still hawk fails to gain any traction. as long as i only lose to hawk when neither of us has a chance of cashing i will pull this bet out! :D
hawkgammon
Jul 29 2006, 10:30 PM
Wasn't this Steve Simpson someone we were supposed to be concerned with? :confused:
I knew it wasn't going to be my day when taking some warm-up drives with eventual second place finisher George. One of my drives slammed into a cedar off #7 long and three birds came out of the tree, but one landed on the ground. It flapped around and couldn't seem to take flight. As George and I went down to take a look the apparently injured bird and it's buddies skipped along the ground and out of sight into the right side rough. We never saw them again. Bad karma, but not bad enough to lose to The Load.
MTL21676
Jul 31 2006, 08:47 AM
so Hawk beats Evil by a stroke this weekend.
Yet, neither get a penny, so does it really matter?
Dick
Jul 31 2006, 09:02 AM
no, it doesn't. once i realized it didn't matter after the first round, i shrewdly conserved my energy for his beating next sunday. :D
hawkgammon
Jul 31 2006, 09:11 AM
once i realized it didn't matter after the first round
Translation: Once I realized three holes into the event that I had no chance of fulfilling either part of my boast.
i shrewdly conserved my energy for his beating next sunday.*
Translation: I might not survive the beating Hawk will give me at The Swamp without much rest. At least there's Chipolte at lunch!
* The Load correctly predicts a beat down issued to him by me.
hawkgammon
Jul 31 2006, 09:16 AM
Yet, neither get a penny, so does it really matter?
Bobbie,
It does matter as these ongoing beatings handed out by me to The Load have a devestating cumulative psychological effect. Sure he expresses confidence here on the bored, but at night he stares at the ceiling for sleepless hours, twitching and drenched in a cold sweat.
MTL21676
Jul 31 2006, 09:28 AM
beatings does not equal one stroke.
hawkgammon
Jul 31 2006, 12:59 PM
After his success in Virginia where The Load outlasted a field of quitters and added $20 to his total, Rich reaches new lows when he will return to Boulder Woods this Saturday to compete in this event:
http://www.microx.biz/golf/discgolf.jpg
Faithful readers of this thread will recall the last time The Load went to Boulder Woods. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5762#Masters) That time he played in one of those chick fields with two players and managed to lose a two stroke halftime lead. Knowing I have a prior engagement for this Saturday The Load is hoping that no other Masters show up and therefore he can win a solo division and get his entry fee back as prize money. Does this man know no shame? Who among you will step forward and stop this?
willkuper
Jul 31 2006, 02:28 PM
You might need to make this a priority over your "prior engagement"
hawkgammon
Jul 31 2006, 02:32 PM
No worries. I'm confident someone will show up and handle this for me. Afterall it's not like it's going to be difficult to do.
Luke Butch
Aug 01 2006, 02:06 AM
so Hawk beats Evil by a stroke this weekend.
Yet, neither get a penny, so does it really matter?
Any day where our Dsic Golf Hero triumphs over Evil is a great day.
So yes, it does matter
hawkgammon
Aug 01 2006, 06:58 AM
Thanks fan.
Has anyone noticed that The Load has once again attempted to mimic my bag set-up in a desperate attempt to get some kind of a groove on? I think we're two months away from Rich growing his hair out to a buzz cut, and having sexy girls in his avatar. I'm guessing he would concede the bet before he would start working out though.
hawkgammon
Aug 01 2006, 01:30 PM
From the minor league bored:
i'm out.
maybe next year... 1 waitlister just had their wishes come true!!!
The Load withdraws from the West Virginia Open! :eek: :o
Now this from a man who said:
i don't plan on letting this bet decide when or where i play this year.
- The Load on 1-21-06
What else can we make of his withdrawl other than he fears the negative impact his guaranteed non cashing performance would have on this bet?
hawkgammon
Aug 01 2006, 01:39 PM
The recruitment campaign goes international! (http://www.bwbda.com/index2.html)
hawkgammon
Aug 02 2006, 12:31 PM
:D
Seneca_Ace
Aug 03 2006, 07:38 AM
can you switch discs or replace at the break?
-Dr Cheat 8/2/06
He is at it again! Trying to circumvent the rules of the three disc tourney in desperate hope of cashing. :D
hawkgammon
Aug 03 2006, 07:47 AM
I'm not sure which is more shocking: his attempt or your surprise!
Good news for The Load as one of my hand picked hitmen has to miss the tournament to:
take my wife dancing at the wine festival.
However hope is not yet lost as I'm still waiting for word from my Belgium (http://www.i-services.net/membres/forum/forum.php?user=15044&idsalon=43929) connections.
Worse case scenario I'll make up whatever ground The Load might gain Saturday, Sunday at the swamp. I am afterall 3-0 against The Load in the last month.
Dick
Aug 03 2006, 11:26 AM
so clint is out?
his roller game isn't well suited to boulder woods anyway. he was pretty surprised when he beat me there last time.
hawkgammon
Aug 03 2006, 01:11 PM
It's not easy generating interest in these Z-Tiers you're attending now.
MTL21676
Aug 03 2006, 02:55 PM
It's not easy generating interest in these Z-Tiers you're attending now.
LMAO
can we get an accurate description of what exactly a Z-Tier is, sanctioning fees, requirements and who plays these?
Dick
Aug 03 2006, 03:15 PM
a z tier is a local event that allows divisions of any number, even one, that hawk can't attend. that spotsy monthly last month at loriella was one. half the masters field quit or left early. also it will help your case as a z tier if i cash, further infuriating hawk... :D
MTL21676
Aug 03 2006, 03:17 PM
hahahahah
I love this thread
hawkgammon
Aug 03 2006, 05:09 PM
A Z-Tier is any unsanctioned, low rent, small time event generally populated by locals that you rarely see at PDGA tourneys. Characteristics would include sandal wearing players, lack of mini usage, weed/beer consumption and failing to actually putt out on anything within 15'. Locally the Swamp monthlies is our ongoing Z-Tier series. Ice Bowls would be Z-Tiers if not for the charity factor. I'm contemplating skipping all Z-Tiers next year due to my International Celebrity Status. Z-Tiers are perfect for The Load though as he can be competitive due to his ability to make 50% of his putts from 15' and his abstaining from recreational consumption of anything lacking high fructose corn syrup. Rich might actually have his own thread next year:
Dr. Evil's Z-Tour 2007: I'm Going To Be A Winner-I Can Feel It!
Jeff_Peters
Aug 04 2006, 07:39 AM
A Z-Tier is any unsanctioned, low rent, small time event generally populated by locals that you rarely see at PDGA tourneys. Characteristics would include sandal wearing players, lack of mini usage, weed/beer consumption and failing to actually putt out on anything within 15'.
LOL - Good stuff there. Don't forget the anxious folks whom usually are standing directly beside you or slightly ahead of you as you are throwing.
Dick
Aug 04 2006, 08:55 AM
slightly ahead? if you call halfway up the fairway by time the last person throws "slightly"! :D
hawkgammon
Aug 04 2006, 08:58 AM
slightly ahead? if you call halfway up the fairway by time the last person throws "slightly"!
More insight from the King of the Z Tiers.
Jeff_Peters
Aug 04 2006, 10:05 AM
I just love it when players like this are walking up the fairway and walk RIGHT PAST another players disc lying to get to theirs. :D
imapackerfan
Aug 04 2006, 10:22 AM
I just love it when players like this are walking up the fairway and walk RIGHT PAST another players disc lying to get to theirs. :D
And then they stand there, looking back over their shoulder, and say "go ahead, you're out"... then start fidgeting or digging in their bags right in your line of sight... gotta love it! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
hawkgammon
Aug 04 2006, 10:51 PM
then start fidgeting or digging in their bags right in your line of sight... gotta love it!
After your many rounds with The Anchor (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=19614) watching him scavenge for power bars (http://www.twinkies.com/hohos.asp) during rounds I would think that you would be immune to this kind of behavior.
Good luck Rich at the Z-Tier tomorrow. Don't let a little thing like self respect get in your way.
By the way there seems to be some interest in Belgium. (http://www.i-services.net/membres/forum/messages.php?user=15044&idsalon=43929&idsujet=9843 84&page_index=0) And you people said this wasn't a viable candidate for the 2007 home base for <font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero. </font>
Dick
Aug 04 2006, 11:39 PM
shark is a post ho, everyone knows that! he'll go anywhere to be the top poster! and it shouldn't be too hard to take the lead on that bored!!!!
hawkgammon
Aug 04 2006, 11:43 PM
it shouldn't be too hard to take the lead on that bored!!!!
You're just frustrated that you can't censor that bored.
Dick
Aug 04 2006, 11:44 PM
hey, we have a totally uncensored area on the md bored. unfortunately you can only access it if you are a registered user! :D
hawkgammon
Aug 04 2006, 11:48 PM
Well I'm sure your average user tally of three will totally enjoy that. I've seen more traffic at a phone booth. (http://www.webwombat.com.au/entertainment/movies/images/phonebooth.JPG)
Dick
Aug 05 2006, 07:24 PM
i was the oly master to show up at bpoulder. rather than take the easy route and pocket 20$ towards the bet , i decided to man up and play open. i was only 3 strokes out at the break, but missed a 15 footer on the first hole and stayed cold putting for a bad second round. finished out of the money but not dfl. i do love boulder woods, shady and a nice breeze off the lake all day. short but technical course with another course across the lake rumoured to be coming soon!
Dr. Evil : Events-18, Total Winnings-$127.50, Average Winnings-$7.08
Your Disc Golf Loser: Events-19, Total Winnings-$101, Average Winnings-$5.32
hawkgammon
Aug 06 2006, 12:33 AM
Kudos for being man enough not to take the cowardly way out. Unfortunately; if needed down the road, I'll need to do the same thing if the situation arises since you've set the standard. On the plus side phase one of reeling you in this weekend happened without me having to do anything. Thanks for the help.
hawkgammon
Aug 06 2006, 11:04 PM
<font color="red">Can the Fisherman reel in the big one (http://www.1-costaricalink.com/costa_rica_pictures/sport_fishing_picture/sport_fishing_picture_3b.jpg) again? </font>
<font color="green">Can the King of the Z Tier Avoid His Destiny? (http://bcn.net/~bennyvic/choking.jpg) </font>
The Load and I approached todays Swamp monthly differently. Rich went to Boulder yesterday where he failed to ca$h in a watered down open field, and I won the Nomad Doubles (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=573510&Main=559802#Post57 3510) stop with Dean. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=16938) This morning I had some scrambled egg whites, turkey bacon and whole wheat toast. Rich had a diet coke, Egg McMuffin and yet another yogurt fruit parfait. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif And so we head off to the first round.
I'm thrilling my card mates with a series of ace runs, but I'm cursed with spit out after spit out of the deuce putts. Halfway through the round our paths cross and we learn that The Load has shot a 20 on the back nine from the <font color="red">reds!</font> :eek: Turning to one of my card mates I declare,
It's time to jack him up.
I proceed to deuce five holes in a row in route to shooting a matching 20 on the front! :DMeanwhile The Load takes a circle five after missing the mando on #1 and then falters while watching me deuce hole after hole. At the break the scores are:
The Load: 46
<font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero: </font>47
Dodging that near disaster I join Rich as we go for the traditional Chipolte lunch where we enjoy the scenery (http://www.fabtan.com/9acopy.jpg) of College Park as one of the sororities is having a carwash fundraiser. Shockingly The Load declined a second helping of cookies (http://www.shopnatural.com/product/16585.jpg) during lunch. :eek:
We make up the top card with two other players who matched The Load's 46. Rich is in a three way tie for the lead! :eek: The second round from the <font color="blue">blues </font> starts much like the first with me having issues getting putts to stick. Rich creeps out to a several stroke lead over me for the round in addition to the one he carried in. With five holes to go in the tourney The Load has a three stoke lead on me for the day. I quickly get one back on #7 when I three to Rich's four. :oOn #9 Rich Boyd's his drive into the ground barely past the <font color="red">red </font> tee. :oI power towards the basket and convert a 25' putt for the deuce :cool:while The Load three putts :mad:for a five. :D Suddenly I'm one up with two holes to go! :) The Fisherman has struck again. :cool:On #10 Rich and I match botched drives with our respective mid-ranges for matching threes. Now at the final hole Rich confronts the fact that the victory he had envisioned was horribly fragile. (http://www.edventure.org/images/pic_house-cards.jpg) I safely navigate the left side mando while The Load throws his last gasp drive to tie <font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero </font>and naturally fails as he roars by the mando on the wrong side. ;) His circle five to my four seals his fate...once again.
Scores in the second round:
<font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero: </font>55 (102)
The Load: 58 :D (104)
Rich falls from a first place tie to fourth, but manages to earn last place ca$h of $20. I come in third and earn $30, and this bet would essentially be tied if the riff-raff on the second card could have cobbled something together and shut The Load out. However time and destiny is on my side. That gurgling noise you hear is the noose getting tighter around Dr. Chokes neck. I last saw Rich heading back into town to get his minivan washed. (http://www.autoblog.nl/images/carwash.jpg) I'm sure that really impressed the ladies. (http://search.tvnz.co.nz/photogallery/images/gallery/entertainment/Girls-team-laughing.jpg)
I did observe another characteristic of the Z Tier today: The casual (http://www.ballsies.com/sightings/large-shirtless-karaoke.jpg) dress code.
The current bet standings are:
The Load: Events-19, Total Winnings-$147.50, Average Winnings-$7.76
<font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero: </font> Events-20, Total Winnings-$131, Average Winnings-$6.55
Please note my signature for the latest update in the bloodbath that is the head to head battle of <font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero. </font> vs. The Load
Dick
Aug 06 2006, 11:34 PM
nice write up. i think i ran out of gas on the last few holes, either as the result of 2 events in 2 days, or not having the second helping of newman's!!!
anyway, head to head record doesn;t matter, what does matter is that despite your impressive record head to head, i seem to be still winning this bet. too bad i couldn't keep you down today, or at least have been sleazy enough to take the easy money yesterday. oh well, at least i minimized the damage by having such a good first round the other losers couldn't catch me....
It's altogether possible that, regardless of the outcome of the bet, you may win a Pulitzer for the write ups. Classic.
Luke Butch
Aug 07 2006, 03:59 AM
Way to go Hawk!
Congrats on yet another victory over The Load!
The gap continues to close!
hawkgammon
Aug 07 2006, 07:18 AM
i think i ran out of gas on the last few holes, either as the result of 2 events in 2 days, or not having the second helping of newman's!!!
Or perhaps you once again withered when confronted with greatness.
head to head record doesn;t matter
It merely notes the domination you have suffered at my hands this season, and foreshadows your doom.
too bad i couldn't keep you down today
That's the difference between athletic competition and lunch.
jugggg
Aug 07 2006, 09:20 AM
That was really gracious not to play in a one man masters field.
hawkgammon
Aug 07 2006, 09:29 AM
Way to go Hawk!
Congrats on yet another victory over The Load!
Thanks Fan.
Am I the only one who has noticed that there seems to be a huge gap in the amount of public support that I receive vs. the number of people posting for The Load? Yet he has a commanding lead in the poll. Hmmm...
md21954
Aug 07 2006, 09:43 AM
i'm rooting for the doctor because you still haven't given me that $20 you promised if i worked him at the sizzler. :mad:
Dick
Aug 07 2006, 11:48 AM
hawk admitted he would have played the one man field. i have higher moral standards. plus i felt sorry for him as he has been behind for the majority of the bet.
hawkgammon
Aug 07 2006, 11:51 AM
i'm rooting for the doctor
You've been rooting for and voted for The Load from day one in hope that he will accomplish what you weren't man enough to do.
you still haven't given me that $20 you promised
Listen deadbeat I think that was on offer you made that wasn't accepted. Would I make a deal with someone who still hasn't paid off a two year old bet? (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Players&Number=141797&fpar t=&PHPSESSID=)
hawkgammon
Aug 07 2006, 11:59 AM
i have higher moral standards
Translation: Knowing there was a good chance I would find a way to lose a one person field, I didn't want to risk having to explain that.
as he has been behind for the majority of the bet.
Translation: Thank God I won $60 that day when Boyce and Hawk choked, and Mac was injured and everyone else in the field were standard Z Tier losers. Otherwise I'd be so far behind I'd be known as the caboose (http://www.krunk.org/~joeshaw/pics/caboose/phelps-ny-caboose-1-medium.jpg) at this point.
Dick
Aug 07 2006, 01:53 PM
z tier located. locking in on target!
hawkgammon
Aug 07 2006, 02:00 PM
<font color="red"> Attention Disc Golfers of Virginia </font>
Many of you were embarassed, humiliated and ashamed when The Load came to Virginia last month and ca$hed at your Z Tier. Well it now appears that The Load is hoping to make magic again at the Grange this Saturday. I can beat him, as repeatedly documented here. Are you guys saying you're not up to this remedial challenge? Where's Hysell when you need him?
Dick
Aug 07 2006, 02:06 PM
retired.
much like your lame schtick! :o
come challenge me yourself loserboy, or are you not MAN (http://x0e.xanga.com/5e0871257023017335518/b12200959.jpg) enough
hawkgammon
Aug 07 2006, 02:13 PM
I believe I have demonstrated repeatedly that I am more than man enough to take care of you as 10-4-1 shows. However I am just one hero, and I can't be everywhere at the same time. At some point you would think these other players would be ready to step up, but that doesn't seem to be happening.
Dick
Aug 07 2006, 02:15 PM
because they want me to win. you're obnoxious! :D
hawkgammon
Aug 07 2006, 02:19 PM
I seem to think that they are scared of playing with you and enduring your running commentary of the round. I on the other hand am a beloved International Disc Golf Celebrity.
For example I am huge in Belgium.
hawkgammon
Aug 07 2006, 05:46 PM
Translation: hawk is going to the grange for the monthly z tier to avoid the DR gaining traction in the net. unfortunately it may backfire as Hawk will probably be added cash for me.
- The Load on the Nomad Doubles thread today.
Did anyone else notice the Freudian slip here? Instead of the bet The Load typed the net. Clearly he recognizes himself as the big fish being reeled in by the fisherman.
Let's see I could have been added cash for you four times this year, and you could have been added ca$h for me 10 times this season. Hmmm...good basis for that claim.
I hope you don't try to do the whole:
Very difficult legendary course Hawk's never played so I'll have the advantage blah blah blah.
That's the same line we heard before the Depressed Feline Open.
I'll be looking in my closet tonight for an appropriate wife beater to wear on Saturday.
hawkgammon
Aug 08 2006, 11:46 AM
In preparation for this coming Saturday's Z Tier battle with The Load I am replicating the highly successful preparation routine I followed prior to the West Virginia smack down in June.
Last night I hit the gym and completed a demanding 30 stop circuit weight training program in 50 minutes, and followed that up with 20 minutes of stretching. Afterwards I had a dinner of skinned chicken breast marinated in ginger soy sauce, brown rice, and broccoli. All systems are go.
Dick
Aug 08 2006, 11:54 AM
i rode a grueling commuter bus from DC, then looked at a few houses with my wife. then i zoomed over to fuddruckers and got a 1/2 lb burger with fries and a shake! i followed that up with a good dog walking and then watched stargate on tivo until 11pm...i should be in top form by saturday!
hawkgammon
Aug 08 2006, 11:57 AM
i zoomed over to fuddruckers and got a 1/2 lb burger with fries and a shake!
I can't wait for tomorrows update to find out what tonight's dinner will be. Which night of the week do you hit the buffet's?
hawkgammon
Aug 11 2006, 09:37 AM
The Load called me last night to check on my preparation for tomorrows Z Tier showdown. He was very confident that he'll finally put on a good show (http://static.flickr.com/26/51989971_688c3238ac_m.jpg) and detailed his increased training which seemed to involve motorcycle riding and consumption of high caloric saturated fats. I invited him to join me for breakfast (http://lamadeleine.com/Breakfast.aspx) in the morning, but he said it was more important to sleep until the last possible moment and that he'd grab something (http://app.mcdonalds.com/bagamcmeal) nutritious (http://www.laokay.com/lathumb/laphoto/DonutHoleLaPuente.jpg) on the road.
Dick
Aug 13 2006, 12:22 AM
3 hour tour revisited on trip to grange!
can your disc golf hero prevail yet AGAIN on a new course?
8am we leave the evil abode and head southward. we hit 95 south in springfield and immediately traffic crawls to a standstill. Crap! 90 minutes later it is 10am and we stiull haven't reached fredricksburg. badger tries to help with directions and tells them the dynamic duo are enroute, but offers us a bad tip on a detour to route1. about 10:40 we finally roll into the grange. luckily our gracious hosts are holding the start for the disc golf hero and his nemisis. we fly out of the van and quickly get to our hole. we get about 10 practice putts and 2 minute sis called. immediately hawk shows his lack of warmup taking a 3 to everyones two's on the first hole. hawk continues his slightly off putting, compounded by about 5 strokes of plain fluke bad luck. i start hot and keep it fired up, taking a hot 52 into the break. hawk stumbles in with a 64. amazingly i am leading the field! :D
second round after lunch and tiki, i come back to earth on the darkside course taking a couple 6's. still with 2 hole sto play i am tied for the apparent lead with biscoe and stableford. i proceed to immediately collapse taking a 4 and a 5(trying the hail mary) and end with a cold 67. hawk bring in another 64. unfortunately everyone on the lead card was passed by a hot 55 in round 2 and i end up falling to 4th. still i win 10$!!! ;)
we then play our second tiki round and both notch tiki aces! :cool:
even though we didn't play particularly well, othe rthen my excellent first round, hawk and i both agreed this was one of the best events we have been to in a long time! loads of fun! great courses and TIKI!!!! most excellent hosts. all in all a top notch z tier event.
DR. EVIL: Events-20, Total Winnings-$157.50, Average Winnings-$7.87
Your Disc Golf LOSER: Events-21, Total Winnings-$131, Average Winnings-$6.24
we may be playing a lot more z tiers in the future!
hawkgammon
Aug 13 2006, 12:45 AM
The cold start absolutely killed me. Since The Load usually warms up exactly as today began he was unaffected by the morning chaos. I on the other hand generally spend 30 minutes or so getting the machine loosened up. The traffic was brutal and thanks should be extended to Mike for holding the kick-off for us. The 12 stroke pounding I took in the first round was compounded by some of the worse cumulative luck I've ever experienced in a round of disc. We debated how many strokes bizarre fluke instances cost me. I had the second slice through of the chains with the Star Aviar in two weeks (and then got my third cut through in the last four rounds in the second round! ) and then on our final hole I had what appeared to be a deuce bounce off the hole and roll one inch ob. :( The consensus was a 6-8 stroke hosing. Nevertheless the big news was the expected second round collapse of The Load with about two holes to go. Facing the prospect of winning $90 and the possibility of putting this bet to bed, Rich folds and goes from first to fourth when Biscoe and Z-Tier poster boy Stableford saunter by him. In additon to that Will from my card smokes the darkside with an easy (he made it look that way) 55, driving a fair amount of time with a Stratus, :eek: to bump Mr. Sherwood off the first card and push Rich to fourth. This fall from grace cost him $80. :D Naturally I outshot The Load in the second round, but a dozen was just way too many to make up. I'll have to decide what to do with the putter problem as it's definitely costing me strokes at this point. I'm going to have to work through this putter problem.
accidentalROLLER
Aug 22 2006, 05:06 PM
What the #$*&$! happened to this thread? Are you guys dead?
Hawk, putt with a rhyno. It'll change your life.
Chicinutah
Aug 22 2006, 05:18 PM
Great advice! I agree putt with a ryhno,Hawk. Do it for your fans.
hawkgammon
Aug 22 2006, 10:40 PM
What the #$*&$! happened to this thread? Are you guys dead?
Hawk, putt with a rhyno. It'll change your life.
Great advice! I agree putt with a ryhno,Hawk. Do it for your fans.
Thanks fans. The Load has apparently adopted a new strategy of running silent, running deep, and we don't have anything on the schedule until the Swamp Open on 9-17-06. That is unless Rich can scrounge up some Z tier event somewhere. He seems to be on a mailing list or something for those things.
Dick
Aug 23 2006, 12:26 AM
hawk and I are in serious preparation for the calvert open. this could be a pivotal event for the bet. i have been playing tuesday doubles more, while hawk has apparently been hitting sunday morning dubs and even stering the nomad tour there last week. stay tuned for action...
hawkgammon
Aug 30 2006, 11:10 PM
The bag has been updated for the home stretch. No sissy mystery discs for <font color="red"> Your Disc Golf Hero. </font> I have nothing to hide.
hawkgammon
Sep 04 2006, 04:35 PM
The Load reaches a new low today. The locals around here invest a lot of pride in their plastic tag matches. Rich currently has #10 through some fluke. Apparently there are about 115+ out there. So he posts on the minor league bored that he'll be out on his home course at 1100 today. So I dust my tag off and head out to pound the good doctor into submission. We've had no head to head recreational matches this year, and since we're in a tourney lull I thought I'd remind him of my superior skill. Curiously The Load failled to show at the predetermined time. I played with some locals, and upon completing our round who's waiting but The Load and a local boozer. The Load ducks out on a head to head battle! :o:eek:
hawkgammon
Sep 07 2006, 05:35 PM
The Load Seals His Fate
Rich today agreed to accept the challenge of playing 72 holes at The Swamp Open on the 17th. Two rounds of Pro Masters action shuffled with two rounds of Advanced Masters misery. While the course is flat and relatively short and simple, this doesn't allow for any of the essential refeuling (http://www.redorbit.com/modules/imglib/download.php?Url=/modules/news/upload/33cbbe17a2a23f6e52ca6a1809232d6e.jpg) typical in a Load tourney appearance. Stand by for comedic greatness.
Jeff_Peters
Sep 08 2006, 07:50 AM
He can fit a sleeve of Fig Newtons in his bag for fueling on the go.
hawkgammon
Sep 08 2006, 03:06 PM
Do you really think one sleeve is going to get him through nine hours of disc golf?
hawkgammon
Sep 13 2006, 11:27 AM
The Load informed me last night that he believes he will miss the upcoming Maryland State Championships (quite deplorable for the Maryland State Coordinator) and possibly the Ocotober Z Tier monthly at The Swamp. It would appear that Rich has decided to hunker down on his miniscule lead hoping he can ride that out to New Years Eve while I travel the state tracking (http://www.hauntedlives.com/TheLair/dog-thebountyhunter.jpg) down money.
Dick
Sep 13 2006, 11:39 AM
i may still be able to make druid, but MAAC is out of the question. it's not a pro event anyway, so it doesn't count.
hawkgammon
Sep 13 2006, 11:45 AM
I didn't mention MAAC. That was purely recreational.
Dick
Sep 13 2006, 11:47 AM
oh yeah. i may miss that z tier. unless hawk forces my hand by cashing soon. of course me not showing gives you a better chance at z tier glory!
hawkgammon
Sep 13 2006, 11:54 AM
unless [when] hawk forces my hand by cashing soon.
MTL21676
Sep 13 2006, 12:01 PM
you two gonna be at the Hawk Hollow Open are will you be scared off by me?
hawkgammon
Sep 13 2006, 12:12 PM
you two gonna be at the Hawk Hollow Open are will you be scared off by me?
No. Due to parole restrictions Rich can't fraternize with people like you, and I'm a snob.
MTL21676
Sep 19 2006, 09:57 AM
Congrats to Hawk on your most recent victory!
hawkgammon
Sep 19 2006, 11:14 AM
Congrats to Hawk on your most recent victory!
Thanks Fan! ;) Did you ever get those sponsorship mini's from Dr. Excuse? :confused:
The Load AGAIN FAILS TO PUT <font color="red">YOUR DISC GOLF HERO</font> AWAY FOR THE SEASON.
Domination Again Results In No Ca$h Though
Rich and I were part of the Nomads (http://marylandnomads.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=11fdd7ad6c312fed43d4a16c4f9501 2f&) Aluminum Man (http://marylandnomads.com/index.php?topic=14.0) competition at the Swamp Open Sunday where we went four consecutive rounds with essentially no breaks. In essence we had a Masters tourney for bet money, and then an Advanced Masters showdown just for giggles and Aluminum Man glory.
In the first round (pros started this mess off) the Nomads are thwarted in their plan to play together, and thus there are no amusing annecdotes.
Pro Scores after round one:
The Load:-54
<font color="red"> Your Disc Golf Hero:</font>-56
The second round was the first Am round and Rich and I were joined on the full card by local Swamp Floaters Beach and Mac and the fivesome was rounded out by newcomer Rick T. Rick proved to be highly entertaining both in play and style making for a typical joyfilled Nomad round.
After this round scores were:
The Load:-49
<font color="red"> Your Disc Golf Hero:</font>-52
On to Round three which is the deciding round for bet purposes. Can <font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero </font> again reel in the big one? (http://www.flyfishalaska.com/Photopages/Fishing/images/Big%20One_email.jpg) Playing head to head Rich as usual collapses in the face of my greatness and I defeat him in round three...
<font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero:</font>-48 (104)
The Load:-51 (105)
...by three. ;) :D
No money for either of us as I was five strokes out of LPC, but I pick up yet another head to head win.
The current bet standings are:
The Load: Events-21, Total Winnings-$157.50, Average Winnings-$7.50
<font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero:</font> Events-22, Total Winnings-$131, Average Winnings-$5.95
To wrap up the Aluminum Man portion of the day Rich is actually winning Advanced Masters after the first Am round, so as we head out for the second Am round (fourth round of the day for us :cool:) we're on separate cards. I again start reeling Rich in as we pass each other on the postage stamp sized course, and nearly tie him for the Aluminum Man title until with the sun directly in my eyes on the #1 tee I miss the nearly /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif unmissable mando for a circle five and toss away at least two strokes to the evil one. Meanwhile though; in true Load fashion, Rich collapses and loses the Adv. Masters title (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6229) to Beach. :D Scores after the second Am round were:
The Load: -49 (98)
<font color="red"> Your Disc Golf Hero:</font> -49 (101)
A second and third place Adv. Masters finish for us and Rich actually picks up a win (finally) in the head to head battle.
Things could get interesting over the next couple of weeks because:
1. This weekend there's an Am tourney where we could battle it out for another Adv. Masters title.
2. In two weeks we return to compete for ca$h at the Maryland State Championships (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=578209&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=1&fpart=1) hosted by Nomad Paul.
3. In three Sunday's there's the monthly Z-tier at The Swamp.
Except...
1. The Load has to skip it to clean his house? :eek: :o:confused:
2. The "Maryland State Coordinator" will miss this one as he needs to pull a little OT at work that Sunday.
3. The Load says he may miss the monthly Swamp sloshing for a bike ride with his wife.
Hmmmm...is The Load ducking out on battles at this point, sitting on his lead? It appears that I might have to forge on alone in the quest for ca$h.
Finally for you Load bag fans out there he only had one "mystery disc" on Sunday and it was a KC Roc.
MTL21676
Sep 19 2006, 11:26 AM
Did you ever get those sponsorship mini's from Dr. Excuse? :confused:
No, but I did get your disc. Thanks! I donated to a tournament this past weekend that was a fundraiser for a kid whose dad was killed last year in a car wreck (the guy was a golfer).
Thanks for you donation! You are a true Hero, unlike the load, who just, well, is the load.
Dick
Sep 20 2006, 09:29 PM
what to you expect from a supervillian, mtl?
hawkgammon
Sep 21 2006, 12:06 AM
I'll be putting an old friend or two back in the bag this week for the final push over the next month or so.
hawkgammon
Sep 26 2006, 03:01 PM
i'll give it 3:1 that he's in the cash and draws close to even in the bet with doc evil.
-Maryland State Disc Golf Championship TD md21954
The public momentum is swinging my way after recent tourney rounds vs. The Load's latest efforts.
MiTTenZZ
Sep 26 2006, 03:07 PM
I'll be putting an old friend or two back in the bag this week for the final push over the next month or so.
What, Vicodin and Geratol?
hawkgammon
Sep 26 2006, 03:16 PM
I'll be putting an old friend or two back in the bag this week for the final push over the next month or so.
What, Vicodin and Geratol?
Stitch,
Those are better than what (http://clearpharma.com/imgprep/viagra-v.jpg) you need to carry around in case the unthinkable happens and some poor woman or disabled man gets unlucky.
Dick
Sep 27 2006, 12:31 AM
wish i could get some of that 3-1 action....
hawkgammon
Sep 27 2006, 10:30 AM
With The Load ducking my next two singles events, Maryland States (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=578209&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=1&fpart=1&vc=1) and the Z-Tier monthly, I can take the lead in the bet by winning $54. Stand by for updates.
Dick
Sep 27 2006, 11:43 AM
it is possible i will make the z tier at the swamp. depends on the weather and such.
accidentalROLLER
Sep 27 2006, 12:01 PM
depends on the weather and such.
What a hardcore, badass. "Depends on the weather." You need to go get some depends. Or rather, just go ahead and wear a skirt and high heels and watch the MEN play. Or, you could even caddy for hawk and hold one of those frilly umbrellas, like this (http://www.mpimages.net/mp/compressed/promotional/sobell1.jpg). For real, grow a pair (http://www.hitchcorner.com/hitch_covers/bull_balls/bullballs_brass.jpg).
Luke Butch
Sep 27 2006, 12:29 PM
With The Load ducking my next two singles events, Maryland States (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=578209&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=1&fpart=1&vc=1) and the Z-Tier monthly, I can take the lead in the bet by winning $54. Stand by for updates.
YOU CAN DO IT!!!!
Winning a Z tier can't be that tough.
-when will Dr. Evil just give up trying to beat hawk, and instead travel around just to by Hawk's caddy. A professional Z tier caddy.
hawkgammon
Sep 27 2006, 12:40 PM
it is possible i will make the z tier at the swamp. depends on the weather and such.
If The Load attends the Swamp Z-tier then my needed winnings is reduced to $44 greater than whatever he ends up with after the Z-tier. Come play Rich, it's like giving me $10. ;)
Dick
Sep 27 2006, 02:57 PM
actually i will play if it DOES rain, since my wife won't want to do the poker run in the rain. the poker run is actually pretty cool. it benefits a camp for kids with cancer and is sponsored by outback who provide lunch!
hawkgammon
Sep 27 2006, 02:59 PM
it benefits a camp for kids with cancer and is sponsored by outback who provide lunch!
I think the second reason is the cause for your interest in this event.
Dick
Sep 27 2006, 03:02 PM
and i've probably played more events in the rain in the last 2 years then you have played total, donkeyboy. and that doesn't even include z tiers.
accidentalROLLER
Sep 27 2006, 03:16 PM
I doubt it.
hawkgammon
Sep 27 2006, 03:40 PM
and i've probably played more events in the rain in the last 2 years then you have played total, donkeyboy. and that doesn't even include z tiers.
Tears streaking down your face don't count Rich.
hawkgammon
Oct 01 2006, 05:29 PM
Another tourney another opportunity lost.
More putts dead on line that bang off the bucket low. Missed several in the 15' range and made a few over 25'.
I think I got cushioned by the Rockburn course contact.
The current bet standings are:
The Load: Events-21, Total Winnings-$157.50, Average Winnings-$7.50
Your Disc Golf Hero: Events-23, Total Winnings-$131, Average Winnings-$5.70
Dick
Oct 01 2006, 11:39 PM
i hurt my shoulder dirt biking, well actually i hurt it crashing a dirt bike, but anyway....
if it rains and i make it next week i'll be doing alot of forehand and left handed. should be a good opportunity for you to make up ground at a z tier!
hawkgammon
Oct 02 2006, 06:33 AM
The clock is beginning to tick. I'm going back to the bag that I used when I was winning this thing.
Dick
Oct 02 2006, 09:32 AM
tick tock TICK TOCK TICK TOCK
hawkgammon
Oct 02 2006, 09:40 AM
Now if you come to the Swamp to play Sunday you still need to play Masters regardless of this injury claim. Remember the deal...if Masters is offered you have to play it, so come give me more cushion punk.
Dick
Oct 02 2006, 12:03 PM
yeah, i'll get right on that. hopefully by then my shoulder will be healed enough to give you the beating you so richly deserve
hawkgammon
Oct 02 2006, 12:15 PM
...you so richly deserve
Hey, it's clever word play from The Load. Considering you've punked out at the last two head to head opportunities I figure you'll no show again.
Dick
Oct 02 2006, 04:41 PM
unfortunately i have had a few things to do recently, but i have played well over the agreed number of events for the bet. i hope to get some more z tier action in before the end of the year. especially if i think you have a chance of cashing! ;)
hawkgammon
Oct 03 2006, 06:55 AM
unfortunately i have had a few things to do recently
You mean cowering?
Dick
Oct 03 2006, 11:43 AM
no, more like letting you twist in the wind, compadre!
watching you sweat about how to win the bet is very amusing! i'm sure your fans await your dramatic 4th quarter comeback...
hawkgammon
Oct 03 2006, 11:51 AM
i'm sure your fans await your dramatic 4th quarter comeback...
...and you are living in fear of it.
hawkgammon
Oct 08 2006, 05:51 PM
I had a shot today at The Swamp to make up a little ground here, but more of the same in the second round as I got bum rushed by several members of the second card and pushed out of the ca$h. As much as it sickens me to face this it appears that The Load is going to win this bet. Based on his greater overall winnings, and my greater number of events played the numbers don't add up in my favor. I believe I'm done with tourneys for 2006 as we'd have to play the same number of events from this point on and I'd have to finish with $59 more in those events. Unless Rich has eight more ca$hless events lined up I think he's getting the free lunch.
The current bet standings are:
The Load: Events-21, Total Winnings-$157.50, Average Winnings-$7.50
<font color="red"> Your Disc Golf Hero </font> : Events-24, Total Winnings-$131, Average Winnings-$5.46
Dick
Oct 08 2006, 05:57 PM
hawk stops just short of concession. standing by for the full monty...
Dick
Oct 11 2006, 04:00 PM
just pre-regged for the little bluemont bruiser. nice short course to test my injured shoulder and the field isn't too imposing. hawk is refusing to play, hoping i will add a few cashless events to b ring him close again. unfortunately hawk is not good in math and doesn't realize that i am far enough ahead that playing 5 or 6 events before the end of the year won't bring him close enough if he doesn't cash!
hawkgammon
Oct 11 2006, 04:13 PM
The Load fails to comprehend the detailed analysis of the current bet situation three posts up. On the phone just now The Load guaranteed a ca$hing by him at Bluemont this weekend. Stand by for humiliation.
Dick
Oct 11 2006, 04:46 PM
no, i guaranteed the YOU WON"T CASH, you loser! ;)
hawkgammon
Oct 11 2006, 05:36 PM
You can lie to the fans, but not to yourself. I believe I pointed out to you during the conversation that the claim of ca$hing was very Babe Ruth of you. Coincidently there are similarities between the two of you.
Dick
Oct 11 2006, 11:52 PM
i don't mind being compared to the babe. apparently he was a chick magnet.
and a winner! if my shoulder holds up i have a decent chance of cashing. of course, i've NEVER done well at bluemont. that could bode ill. but maybe i am due?
imapackerfan
Oct 12 2006, 12:01 AM
I just registered The Mailman. Sorry, Dr. Evil... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
You're welcome, Hawk. :D
hawkgammon
Oct 12 2006, 06:57 AM
...and The Load moves down two slots. The first by Boyce finishing ahead of him, and the second merely by the crushing psychological blow.
Dick
Oct 12 2006, 11:17 AM
actually hysell registered also. but unfortunately i won't be able to lay the smack down on them since i forgot i already have plans sunday i have to do. maybe next event i can give the mailman a run for the money!
hawkgammon
Oct 12 2006, 11:22 AM
actually hysell registered also. but unfortunately i won't be able to lay the smack down on them since i forgot i already have plans sunday i have to do. maybe next event i can give the mailman a run for the money!
Translation: I'm a big fat loser. Sensing easy pickings I signed up, but once I realized the my best perfect storm finish would be fifth I decided to stay home and wash my hair.
Dick
Oct 12 2006, 11:34 AM
bingo!
actually i forgot i have tix to the dcunited game and planned to meet someone at 4pm to ride down there. but your translation is semi accurate. except the hair part of course. maybe a scalp massage!
Dick
Oct 13 2006, 05:48 PM
i went out to try playing some holes and see how my shoulder was coming along. the experiment lasted one drive. ouch!
i can flip forehand a little. maybe i need to start playing left handed...
hawkgammon
Oct 13 2006, 06:33 PM
maybe i need to start playing left handed...
That helped in your personal life didn't it?
hawkgammon
Oct 20 2006, 02:48 PM
Since The Load seems to have retired from competition this year it should be noted that the head to head stands at:
<font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero:</font> 11 wins
The Load: 6 wins
ties: 1
Dick
Oct 20 2006, 05:09 PM
i am injured. my offerings to satan don't seem to be healing my shoulder. maybe if i offered the forgiven one as a human sacrifice?
hawkgammon
Oct 21 2006, 10:25 PM
Last Saturday the Nomads played doubles at Codorus...I came back with poison ivy. That didn't deter me from going back for today's tourney.
Random notes:
Driving in a man is walking along the side of the road decked on in camo and carrying a very large bow and a bunch of arrows. It was not the Green Arrow.
Arriving at the park I notice the standard issue PDGA banner nicely mounted billboard like as you enter the park. The only thing missing is a snazzy tagline. Hmmmm...
Due to Gobrecht's inability to accept pre-regs I had to stand in the line of shame with the general public. This is not acceptable.
Bill Geibel ducks out on going mano y mano and plays with the Am's from the kiddie tees.
Jay attempts to placate me by giving me the choice first round tee assignment with himself and a couple of Open studs. One of them has his girlfriend along. She eventually performs a partial strip tease during a back up on one of the tees. This nearly makes up for the line of shame debacle.
Church bells keep going off during the round.
Clint Rey works me on the hole that Rich and I paid for resulting in a seven instead of the five I could have hacked my way to on my own.
I win a pros only CTP.
You make the most amazing shots on the really hard holes.
-Girlfriend/stripper to me.
(unspoken..."You botch all the easy ones."
I explained to her that I lose interest on the other ones and I'd like to see her back tattoo again.
I'm two behind Dan Becker, who challenged my greatness on the Nomads bored, after the first round in the coveted DFL position.
In round two I reel Becker in and defeat him by four strokes for the day. I also make several good shots. The girlfriend/stripper does not see these.
No money won.
The Load: Events-21, Total Winnings-$157.50, Average Winnings-$7.50
<font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero</font>: Events-25, Total Winnings-$131, Average Winnings-$5.24
hawkgammon
Oct 22 2006, 11:12 AM
The Load has announced that he's boycotting this message bored. I think that means I can win the bet. Stand by as I rack up money over the next two months.
Seneca_Ace
Oct 23 2006, 12:34 PM
We are holding a Z tier on saturday the 11th at Seneca. Gold, Silver and Bronze divisions. Chance for you to make up some $$.
hawkgammon
Oct 23 2006, 01:33 PM
Is this in place of the missing Screamer?
Seneca_Ace
Oct 23 2006, 01:52 PM
It IS the missing Screamer. Although I don't know why it is still The Seneca Screamer after Holloween....but whatever. I think next year it might be sanctioned and it might be The Seneca Open.
hawkgammon
Oct 23 2006, 01:54 PM
Perhaps the Seneca Hangover. Seneca Afterthought. Seneca III.
Dick
Oct 24 2006, 10:52 AM
Satan has told me it is ok to post on this thread only.
i am working on healing my shoulder to make sure hawk can't outcash me. at this point it would take a miracle finish, but anything is possible. Heck, the redskins could even make the playoffs! ;)
hawkgammon
Oct 24 2006, 11:00 PM
Satan has told me it is ok to post on this thread only.
Way to stick to that bored boycott. 2.5 days. Impressive will power.
That statement will get you awkward pm's from the new junior moderators.
AviarX
Oct 24 2006, 11:51 PM
i am working on healing my shoulder to make sure hawk can't outcash me.
if you are dealing with a shoulder injury, shoudn't Hawk take the high road and call this year a wash and make next year a do-over? ;) :D :D /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :p
oh wait -- are you winning? :eek:
Dick
Oct 25 2006, 03:25 PM
yeah, i am injured, but hawk still can't catch me. the faster he goes, the behinder he gets!
AviarX
Oct 25 2006, 04:35 PM
interesting that your player ratings are very similar.
Dick
Oct 26 2006, 05:49 PM
even more interesting is that apparently i am behind significantly in the head to head standings, yet comfortably winning the bet.
it's all about the money!
hawkgammon
Oct 26 2006, 09:14 PM
A hollow victory at best.
Dick
Oct 27 2006, 11:06 AM
yet, still a victory. you set the rules. i merely prevailed using said rules. it's all over now except the trip to hooters! and i feel hungry!
AviarX
Oct 27 2006, 02:08 PM
even more interesting is that apparently i am behind significantly in the head to head standings, yet comfortably winning the bet.
it's all about the money!
is that really a happy accident, or did you conspire to have it work out this way -- not just to stab sir Hawk in the back with a proverbial knife, but to go a step further and twist it publicly while feigning innocence? :eek: :D
hawkgammon
Oct 27 2006, 03:28 PM
He's just reveling in his apparent win in what was a poorly designed bet we negotiated out. Yes he will more than likely win the bet, but I won every other relevant statistic.
Dick
Oct 27 2006, 04:17 PM
stats that don't actually affect the bet are relevant HOW???
it was a happy coincidence, though hawk surely knows if i could have planned it that way i would have. basically the head to head record is a result of me screwing around when we were both way out of the cash...
hawkgammon
Nov 01 2006, 10:29 PM
basically the head to head record is a result of me screwing around when we were both way out of the cash...
This point is typically reached by The Load at about hole six of the first round. I usually hang around till the middle of round two.
alexkeil
Nov 01 2006, 10:38 PM
We need more rivalries like this in disc golf. You can feel the tension as HawkGammon pads his lead over Dr. Evil. Any North Carolinians around 910 rated that want to take a 25$ bet in 2007? Maybe throw a 6 pack into the deal? It may not carry the automatic notoriety of Hawk and the Doc, but there could be some good sidebets, such as "best score in round 4 of the Tar Heel tourney after drinking a six pack of the black Sparks after round 3" or a free dinner at Bojangles for the winner of the most last-cash spots in 07. Who wants some?
AviarX
Nov 02 2006, 11:50 AM
You can feel the tension as HawkGammon pads his lead over Dr. Evil.
:confused: how can you pad your lead when you're losing? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
alexkeil
Nov 02 2006, 05:06 PM
:confused: how can you pad your lead when you're losing? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
[/QUOTE]
Good question. Perhaps a better one is how I can write without being able to read. Ponder that. :o
hawkgammon
Nov 13 2006, 11:11 AM
Update:
I played in a tourney Saturday where the opportunity existed for me to play in a ca$h division. I declined to do so as I was demoing my anticipated 2007 Z Tier existence. While successful in winning the loser bronze division I feel that the event has to count in the bet as I could have competed for ca$h.
Therefore the current bet standings are:
The Load: Events-21, Total Winnings-$157.50, Average Winnings-$7.50
Your Disc Golf Hero: Events-26, Total Winnings-$131, Average Winnings-$5.04
Dick
Nov 13 2006, 01:52 PM
actually, technically it wouldn't count, as the stated pro mastwers division wasn't offered. you don't need to count it, although it probably won't make a difference. i will hopefully be able to play pohick and or the dec calvert monthly, so stay tuned. i even threw a few backhanders with little ill effect.
hawkgammon
Nov 13 2006, 01:54 PM
I don't think we need to play Masters, but play for ca$h when available. Therefore the North/South thing will count for or against me as well. I believe Jay's (everchanging) plan is to pay ca$h out to people. $100 and I'm right back in this.
hawkgammon
Nov 19 2006, 09:43 PM
The end is near...
The Load and I went up to Codorus yesterday to play in the North vs. South battle. Naturally I defeated Dr. Empty, but we both failed to ca$h. I finished 28th out of 53 and Rich stumbled in 32nd place. I did however win $20 from medicines biggest disgrace on a sidebet resulting in me tooling around this week on gas paid for by The Load. Rich won the first round 89-92 (each round was 27 holes) but had his usual second round collapse as I cruised to a 87-93 win and best him by three for the day. This brings the head to head standings for the season to 12-6-1 in my favor. Unfortunately...
The current bet standings are:
The Load : Events-22, Total Winnings-$157.50, Average Winnings-$7.16
<font color="red"> Your Disc Golf Hero </font> : Events-27, Total Winnings-$131, Average Winnings-$4.85
As things stand now I'm $75 behind in the bet with no Z-tiers on the horizon, so the fat doctor appears to have sung.
Dick
Nov 20 2006, 10:45 AM
THIS JUST IN:
AP and CNN are reporting that early polls showing the Doctor of Evil prevailing over Your DIsc Golf Hero appear to be correct. With 95% of the results counted both are declaring the Dr. the easy winner over Mr. Gammon. Now we go to the Four Seasons Hotel in Dc where the Dr. is holding a victory press conference...
CNN - Dr. Evil, this appears to be a most impressive victory against overwhelming odds. How did you do it?
DE - Well, it was a daunting race when i undertook it, and things were looking bleak after the early returns were counted. I eventually turned the tide with a stunning victory at The Swamp and then held off several repeated attempt by my opponent to cash in on my poor showing at other events.
CNN - It looks like your opponent beat you in almost every other statistical category!
DE - Yes, but nobody will remember that down the road. Victory is all that matters. Does anyone recall who ran against Carter or Reagan? No, America only remembers the winners. Losers fade into obscurity.....Are those Jelly Donuts??
CNN - SO we take it you are declaring Victory at this point?
DE - MMMPH MMphhhMMPPHHH....UH, Yes. Obviously Hawk won't be able to catch me at this point. He would have to hit every Z tier from here to CA in december and actually cash to catch me now. We all know he doesn't have the resources left in his campaign chest anymore, and I suspect I have beaten the desire out of him. I expect he have some excuses about how he beat me head to head, or that I played less events since iI was injured. To that I say I prevailed on the issues that mattered. Honestly, I expect his next move will be retirement....
CNN - SO what now?
DE - Well, now I can retire to my evil lair and rule my evil empire, occasionally mocking Mr. Gammon about my win and rubbing it in his face. Especially at Hooter's! MUHAHAHAHAHA
Dick
Dec 07 2006, 07:35 PM
well...
Hawk thinks that he actually still has a chance to win. SO there looks to be a showdown at the swamp this sunday at the last swamp monthly this year. I will be looking to drive the dagger into his impure heart!
Jeff_Peters
Dec 07 2006, 09:49 PM
Go Hawk! Your fans still believe.
Be the disc, be the disc.
hawkgammon
Dec 08 2006, 03:44 PM
I believe the odds are against me winning the bet as I doubt I can cobble together the approximately $80 I need to pull ahead due to my more manly number of events played. However I'm confident that I will add another checkmark on my side of the ledger in the head to head bloodbath of Load losses. Sometime around the ninth hole of the first round Rich will decide that we're out of the money and he'll start practicing thus discounting (in his mind) yet another victory by <font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero. </font> To make things interesting I'll be using a bunch of USDGC Rocs I got from the good people at Zonedriven (http://www.zonedriven.com/proshop) today after only one demo round of doubles on Saturday. Rich will be countering this with a Goblin, Skeeter, and a Moray.
AviarX
Dec 08 2006, 06:10 PM
Dr, we're counting on you continuing your mission to show Hawk that talking the talk and walking the walk are two different deals and that while he may have the former down, you are his schoolmaster with regard to the latter :eek: :o:D
The current bet standings are:
The Load : Events-22, Total Winnings-$157.50, Average Winnings-$7.16
<font color="red"> Your Disc Golf Hero </font> : Events-27, Total Winnings-$131, Average Winnings-$4.85
Deebo events: 3 Total winnings: $336 Average Winnings: $112
Dick
Dec 10 2006, 12:33 AM
i've definitely schooled him. he has beaten me in almost every possible category except the one that counts. particularly funny would be if he outcashed me tomorrow for the overall cash lead, yet still has to buy me hooters. it almost makes me want to throw the match!
maybe next year he will come up with a bet he can win....
hawkgammon
Dec 11 2006, 09:41 AM
<font color="blue">Another Head to Head Battle Results In Yet Another Humiliation For The Load. </font>
Two rounds at the Swamp yesterday. Round one from the short red tees results in the usual early lead for The Load as Rich shoots a mediocre 49 to my disappointing 51.
At lunch Rich confidently announces that he's in the mix and has a shot at the uncoveted Masters <font color="pink">Tag Trophy. </font> I smile knowingly. In reality Rich is on the second of three cards and the only mix he's in is a Betty Crocker cake.
Will we witness yet again the reeling in and boating of The Load? But of course! Rich manages to remain semi-competitive five holes into the second round from the long blue tees until he takes a double circle seven on #11. :eek: The beauty of this collapse is that Dr. Meltdown missed the mando, not on his drive, but on his botched second shot/approach! Slinking back to retee the desperation drive misses the mando from the short red tee. :oAt this point the practicing we've all come to know and love commenced. Meanwhile I'm back on the third card punking those three losers, and climbing over the bodies of the second card as they all crumble in the face of greatness. Round two ends with The Load shooting a 59 (108) to my impressive 51 (102) for yet another head to head win (now 13-6-1 in my favor) for Belgium's favorite disc golfer. I end up tied for fourth out of 12 and take home $27.50. This now puts me in the lead in the head to head battles, and in total money won, but since the load didn't man up as much as me this year with his various injuries (who remembers the toothache in April that kept him out of action? :D) he still leads the bet.
The current bet standings are:
The Load: Events-23, Total Winnings-$157.50, Average Winnings-$6.85
<font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero:</font> Events-28, Total Winnings-$158.50, Average Winnings-$5.66
He may win this bet, but I think I've proven who is the better player.
Sharky
Dec 11 2006, 09:42 AM
At the monthly yesterday the excitement was palpable (http://www.sharkysshots.com/albums/userpics/10002/cvdec06monthly0024.JPG) !
Results in the feud:
Hawk (http://www.sharkysshots.com/albums/userpics/10002/cvdec06monthly0025.JPG) : 51 51 102
Dr Evil (http://www.sharkysshots.com/albums/userpics/10002/cvdec06monthly0018.JPG) : 49 59 108. Too much lunch? :D
Dick
Dec 11 2006, 10:09 AM
you probably won more money by going to so many more events. part of the deal was that by going cash per event we would eliminate the ability to win by just playing more events. seems to have worked. i stunk it up in the second round and you played well. but in the end i will win the bet. you can beat me in every category except the one we bet on!
once you lose maybe you will demand a rematch head to head. apparently you think you could actually win that....
Sharky
Dec 11 2006, 10:14 AM
Please reply to the loser not your better. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
hawkgammon
Dec 11 2006, 02:15 PM
This is not over (http://forums.stickitdg.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=492e41040cd5a5f3056ebac8a9c294 1c&topic=1430.0) yet! (http://dgcnv.manaze.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=445)
Luke Butch
Dec 11 2006, 02:42 PM
Clearly Hawk has shown he is the better player.
our hero triumphs yet again, as we all knew he would.
hawkgammon
Dec 11 2006, 02:44 PM
Clearly Hawk has shown he is the better player.
our hero triumphs yet again, as we all knew he would.
Thanks fan.
Dick
Dec 11 2006, 05:04 PM
yeah, have fun travelin man! run if you hear banjo music!
not sure what luke means by triumphed, maybe he is mentally challenged and can't understand the terms of the bet on page 1 of this thread?
the bet was highest average cash per event. thus i am winning now and will ultimately prevail.
maybe next year hawk will word the bet so he can win? :D
hawkgammon
Dec 13 2006, 03:32 PM
Oh look:
MPM Mark Boyce 137
<font color="red"> MPM Hawk Corrick 97 </font>
MPM Mac Snelgrove 92
MPM George Brown 85
<font color="green">MPM Rich Myers 81 </font>
MPM Ray Thompson 76
MPM Joe Pelchat 67
MPM Chris Beach 54
MPM Charlie George 46
MPM David Byrd Burroughs 33
MPM Shannon Lally 27
MPM Dan Becker 25
MPM Keith Brace 23
MPM Joe Hewlett 21
MPM Mike Slonim 17
MPM A. Lewis Graninger 17
MPM Jay Gobrecht 14
MPM Tony Wiechert 13
MPM Kirk Snell 12
MPM Scott Holter 11
MPM Bill Boyd 10
MPM Jerry Shelton 9
MPM Tom Garber 9
MPM Steve Miller 9
MPM Jim Vilikaitis 8
MPM Gary Hall 6
MPM Scott Mcintyre 5
Yet another loss by The Load in the soon to be defunct local Z Tier series.
Luke Butch
Dec 13 2006, 06:10 PM
Your Disc Golf Hero: Total Winnings-$158.50
The Load: Total Winnings-$157.50
a clear victory for our hero
Dick
Dec 14 2006, 11:23 AM
yeah, that's real decisive! especially in yet another category that doesn't matter. my strategy this year has been to win the bet and have fun along the way, while you have hit extra events trying to win more cash per event. if the bet was total cash or head to head i would have prevailed there also because my strategy would have been different.
bottom line is, i will win this bet. regardless of if you continue to chase money at any remaining z tiers available. of course you will blame the way the bet was structured. yet you proposed the terms. i merely accepted them and beat you.
Sharky
Dec 16 2006, 09:05 AM
No doubt you will be pleasently surprised to hear the 2007 Swamp Series was green lighted at our last Calvert Flyer's meeting. Congrats on your strong showing in 2006 hawk. ;)
Doctor - hope for a deep payout. :D
Dick
Dec 16 2006, 07:27 PM
hope for a deep payout? not sure i get you. our bet is cash per event, and i have that pretty much wrapped up. :cool:
of course hawk continues to tout the other meaningless categories he has done better in. next year i will be focusing on playing better overall, whether hawk wants to bet head to head or not....
hawkgammon
Dec 18 2006, 10:05 AM
Sparky is referring to the money awarded for placing in the series, which since I came in second and you came in fifth should be bigger for me. Oh you didn't think about that? Golly that's money won in competition so I guess it would count. Enter maniacal laughter here. On the other hand I never got my fifth place money from 2005 (I did get the mini sometime last summer) which is typical Flyers shenanigans. Hopefully Sparky will post the pay-out before the New Year.
Dick
Dec 18 2006, 12:56 PM
first off, i don't think series money would count. it isn't a singles event. secondly, it is doubtful you will win it this year, as they usually pay out in january.
but if you are that desperate and willing to resort to shady dealings, i suggest you go play nice with sharky and beg to be paid out. you begging sharky for money will be worth the hooters lunch! :D
hawkgammon
Dec 18 2006, 01:34 PM
After successfully turning pro as Masters in 2005 the members of Team Grunt have decided to go mano y mano and see <font color="red"> who can cobble together the most winning$ this season.</font>
It would seem to be rather clear to me that money won as a result of placement in a tournament series would count towards the bet. They only money won we specifically excluded from being a part of this bet was ace-pot money since we didn't want one shot to decide the bet. When the Flyers actually award us our placement money isn't relevant as it is for performance in 2006. Knowing the Flyers this may drag out the official results well into the Spring. Perhaps your embarassment here is realizing that all those rounds you tanked (I'm practicing) when we were out of the monthly money is coming back to haunt you; whereas I, as the true professional, continued to gut it out each time no matter how far back...for the fans and placement.
hawkgammon
Dec 18 2006, 01:37 PM
<font color="red"> THIS JUST IN... </font>
For Aviar-X, and all you other numbers geeks out there:
The final ratings posted in 2006 are in:
<font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero:</font> 920
The Load: 917
Just another example of my domination in 2006.
Dick
Dec 18 2006, 01:53 PM
whatever. if you want to change the bet to include series money in addition to money won in singles competition to sooth your damaged ego, go ahead. everyone will still know who won the bet.
hawkgammon
Dec 18 2006, 02:47 PM
How can money won based on a year long performance in a series not count as:
cobble together the most winning$ this season.
Why don't you read this line from the front page of the thread, instead of twisting the next line to meet your needs? Obviously you overlooked this fact (I knew about it as I ca$hed in the series last year) and the only face saving claim of victory you had after your abysmal showing this year and all around thrashing just got pulled away from you. If I were you I'd be sitting around right now going:
Duhhh....uhhh....what happened? I think I lost doh!
Dick
Dec 18 2006, 03:51 PM
Try reading the next line of your post "Any ca$h won in sanctioned or unsanctioned tournament singles competition counts."
you go on to mention that "an update will be provided after each event" further implying that only money from an event counts.
the last thing is you obviously state that the bet is "cash per event" not total cash won divided by events played. "per event" a series is not an event.
no mention of series awards, cash sponsorships, etc. this cash wasn't won "in singles competition" maybe in competition in a series, but that would be different. obviously my mistake was taking on a bet so loosely worded and not thought out. i think a better bet would be head to head, but we know you aren't man enough to take that kind of action!
if it makes you feel better to include this money as part of the bet, oh well. does that mean if i get money from someone for sponsorship as a result of my participation in singles competition it counts? i would have "won" a sponsorship in your twisted reality...
still no matter. if the flyers actually do pay you it still might not be enough for you to win the bet even while twisting the intent. if you knew about it from the beginning you would have stated that in the bet proposal, so obviously this isn't true. you never thought about it, and this is your last chance to avoid losing to someone you know you should beat. obviously you are a better player, you beat me in every single category other than cash per event. to bad you aren't man enough to admit the reality of some stupid bet for 20$ worth of food. i on the other hand don't really care that much. if you still think series money counts AND you actually collect enough from sharky to win if you include it, then i'll be happy to pay at hooters next time. no big deal.
circle_2
Dec 18 2006, 06:04 PM
Head to head...double or nothing. :cool::eek:
hawkgammon
Dec 18 2006, 06:45 PM
i think a better bet would be head to head, but we know you aren't man enough to take that kind of action!
You already lost that bet this year: 13-6-1. I know you desperately want to cling to my celebrity coattails in a pathetic attempt to keep your slightly elevated profile up as a result of this interaction.
obviously you are a better player, you beat me in every single category other than cash per event.
It's about time you admitted this to yourself as the masses have known this fact for 12 months now.
You've been groveling for a rematch for over a month now even before the Flyer's December Surprise slapped you in the face meaning you knew the harsh reality of my superiority.
I'll let the fans decide. (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=624182&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=&vc=#Post624182)
Dick
Dec 18 2006, 08:08 PM
i only thought a head to head rematch would be good since you keep bringing up how you beat me head to head. should be money in the bank if you are so good...
hawkgammon
Dec 19 2006, 09:52 AM
should be money in the bank if you are so good...
I like to think of it more as breasts in my face.
I'm just having a hard time getting motivated to bitchslap you around for another whole season after doing that already this year.
Dick
Dec 19 2006, 10:37 AM
bitchslap me around?!?! hah!!! more like narrowly edge me all year. bitchslap would be what would happen if you made the same bet with zink, boyce or "the glove".....
hawkgammon
Dec 19 2006, 10:57 AM
boyce
Who?
AviarX
Dec 19 2006, 06:22 PM
<font color="red"> THIS JUST IN... </font>
For Aviar-X, and all you other numbers geeks out there:
The final ratings posted in 2006 are in:
<font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero:</font> 920
The Load: 917
Just another example of my domination in 2006.
okay -- nice -- but you have to give him kudos for winning the money per event bet you guys made. i guess he gets bonus points because he even got you to resort to trying to include series money as money per event and then post that weak excuse here as if it meant you really won :eek: :D
next year you guys should just make it $1 per stroke for scores at events you both compete in playing the same layouts. at the end of the year add up the strokes and hand over the cash. that's the bet i'd like to read about. otherwise, viewers may tune out LOL
sandalman
Dec 19 2006, 06:32 PM
i'm gonna miss Hawk and the maryland crew. they be funny! the pdga and the message board will lose when they go :(
accidentalROLLER
Dec 19 2006, 06:38 PM
But think of all the bland, boring, politically correct new members we'll be getting to replace them with our exciting new fee structure and super-cool new benefits!
hawkgammon
Dec 20 2006, 11:10 AM
i'm gonna miss Hawk and the maryland crew. they be funny! the pdga and the message board will lose when they go :(
Thanks fan. t- minus 10 days till final post.
hawkgammon
Dec 20 2006, 11:10 AM
But think of all the bland, boring, politically correct new members we'll be getting to replace them with our exciting new fee structure and super-cool new benefits!
Good luck with that.
AviarX
Dec 20 2006, 08:39 PM
But think of all the bland, boring, politically correct new members we'll be getting to replace them with our exciting new fee structure and super-cool new benefits!
Good luck with that.
anyone get the impression they are marketing our sport to appeal to traditional ball golf types and thus are missing the much larger, natural base they could be attempting to Ttap?
Dick
Dec 28 2006, 12:11 AM
hey hawk, i found a nice quote from you on 1/21/06 that makes my case for me:
"nteresting for you, but irrelevant for this thread. Allow me to remind you what matters:
Hawk : Per Tourney Winnings: $7.50
Rich : Per Tourney Winnings: $6.25."
i rest my case. thanks fans for supporting my evil plans. i'll think of you while i'm eating hawk broke at hooters!
AviarX
Dec 28 2006, 12:33 AM
maybe Hawk should take the $50 he saved on renewal and pay for Dr. Evil's renewal so they can feud it out here in 2007 :D
Dick
Dec 28 2006, 10:35 AM
Thanks, aviar, but i already renewed over a month ago. right after the deadline for last year's rates. doh! but i did renew as an am. i refuse to pay that crazy rate increase as i am sure alot of players will, and i intend to play as an am for the forseeable future. one result of our bet that was very clear was playing pro was more expensive and the chance of winning back even our entry fee was negligible.
Sharky
Dec 28 2006, 01:00 PM
Way to give up, you used to be improving.....
johnbiscoe
Dec 28 2006, 01:02 PM
there is still the grange monthly 12/31 for you two mullets to pick up (or more likely give up) a little more cash.
hawkgammon
Dec 28 2006, 03:33 PM
Way to give up, you used to be improving.....
Or he's tired of playing in some second tier lame protected division. Oh sorry you play in a lame third tier protected division.
hawkgammon
Dec 28 2006, 03:34 PM
there is still the grange monthly 12/31 for you two mullets to pick up (or more likely give up) a little more cash.
It would seem unlikely that The Load would potentially miss a New Year Eve's feast to drive down for that.
Dick
Dec 28 2006, 08:07 PM
actually i probably would go down there, but i will be in nyc this weekend.
and shark, i don't see how my division makes a difference in if i improve. actually i fell off like 5 points this year. also i would point out i have played 9 events this year and won 12$. last year i played 15 and won 160$ which was a little better. now that some of the better pros are masters players, the odds of me even cashing in a pdga event are pretty low. who's to say i could even do well in advanced? have you seen my rating compared to the other ams in md? i'm not even in the top 10!
the point of playing in events for me is to compete. until the pdga implements a system to group players together by competitive abilities rather than arbitrary age and gender protected divisions, i'll probably play am where i at least have a chance of competing.
Sharky
Dec 29 2006, 12:34 PM
Still don't get I see, get off the excuse train and you might actually pick up some steam....... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
hawkgammon
Dec 30 2006, 01:53 PM
Hello I'm Julie Chen (http://entimg.msn.com/i/gal/big_brother_all_stars/bbas_Julie_Chen_400.jpg) . Tonight I bring you an interview I taped earlier today with <font color="red">Your Disc Golf Hero</font> in the Flemish region of Belgium. The interview covered a wide range of topics and Mr. Gammon was very honest with his often controversial opinions. We met at a quaint street side cafe (http://www.zousan.com/piphotos/belgium/images/cafe.jpg) so that Mr. Gammon could enjoy the scenery of young women walking by. He was relaxed and casually attired (http://lulusvintage.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/ebay2_21.jpg) in a smoking jacket, plain t-shirt, leather pants and woven loafers.
Julie Chen: How are you today Mr. Gammon?
Hawkgammon: I'm fine Julie and thank you for agreeing to do this interview topless.
JC: Well it is Europe, and this is obviously a highly coveted interview opportunity.
H: Yes I understand. Could you arch your back a little more?
JC: Certainly. Is that better?
H: Perfect.
JC: So it appears that you have lost this bet to the man you have come to refer to as... The Load.
H: Yes Julie while it is technically correct that I have lost the bet by ending up with a smaller per tourney average winnings, I believe I aptly demonstrated that I am the better player.
JC: Does this mean you will be welching on the bet as md21954 did to you two years ago?
H: Absolutely not Julie. As a sportsman and gentleman I will promptly pay off my debt to The Load immediately following our next joint z-tier appearance. This could be as soon as January 7th, or after the Druid Ice Bowl (officially endorsed by the Maryland Nomads, but don't tell Rick Rothstein that ;))two weeks later. The Load's post tourney meal is on me at either the Laurel or Towson Hooters. (http://www.hootersmn.com/images/girl_right.jpg)
JC: Now Dr. Evil has essentially been demanding a rematch for about a month now. Why would the victor want a rematch? It would seem that he should take the victory and run.
H: Two things here Julie. 1. He's an idiot. 2. It's his own admission that he lost the bet while winning the bet. I won every analytical category other than the actual bet. Head to head I won 13-6-1. I won more money. My rating went up 17 points this season to pass his which dropped six points. If he hadn't ducked 30% of the season with his various toothaches, groin pulls and vapor attacks, he would have played as many if not more events than me and lost the actual bet as well.
JC: So he's looking for redemption?
H: Absolutely. The public know who was the better player in 2006, and he's still delusional enough to think it might be him.
JC: So will there be a rematch?
H: Stay tuned.
JC: But aren't you retiring?
H: I had decided to retire as a professional this year as it became obvious that it's pointless for me to continue to play as a pro. Being the rare disc golfer with both a career and a life, I simply don't have the time to practice five times a week like the typical loser who can roll out every summer afternoon. The only question was would I play at all and at what level.
JC: And what were your thoughts there?
H: Well I figured that I would go back to playing in one of the dozen or so amateur categories available to the disc golf consumer where everyone's a winner.
JC: Now there has been much discussion by you on whether to renew with the PDGA, or if you would simply travel the carny circuit of z-tiers.
H: My intention was to not renew. My disdain of the PDGA centers around it's misguided priorities where time and energy is spent on trivial issues they feel matter concerning the image of the sport. They get into a major tizzy over what goes on at a message bored, while their number one public relations problem is the sport being perceived as a haven for stoners and unemployed losers.
JC: Is it?
H: Julie I went to a major public university on the East Coast during the 80's with 35,000+ students and during the four years I was there didn't see as much pot smoking as I did the first year I played disc golf in 2003. I used to play in backgammon tournaments for big money, and no one ever had to announce at the beginning:
Please don't smoke during the tourney. If I see it I'll have to be a jerk and DQ you. Please don't make me be that guy people.
JC: So it's a problem.
H: For them not for me. The surprising thing to me is the number of players who are in various types of recovery. They tend to be the guys I end up hanging out with for the most part.
JC: Are you in a recovery program?
H: Only for orgy addiction.
JC: But in conducting research for this interview I discovered that your membership in the PDGA is current for 2007. Did you change your mind and renew?
H: No. One of my fans who somehow got onto the Board of Directors proposed to the others that I should be given a complimentary membership due to my International Disc Golf Celebrity status.
JC: And they did that?
H: Not officially. But several of the members ponyed up money out of their own pocket to renew me.
JC: Considering your antagonistic relationship with the Association why would they do this? Were they high?
H: Who knows. Perhaps it was a sincere gesture or an attempt to buy me off. Unfortunately I think many people are confused and think that my refusal to renew was financial, whereas my issues are more directed to the value of the membership and is the Association something I want to be associated with.
JC: Your year, in addition to the battle with Dr. Evil, was controversial as the religious right came after you lead by one Jack Moore.
H: Who?
JC: And several of the female members began to come after you lead by a bored user known as Discette.
H: Who?
JC: And there are now two bored moderators who seem to spend half of their on-line life pouring over your posts as if they were ancient works of import.
H: Do you mean Mutt & Jeff?
JC: I believe those might be the individuals I'm speaking of.
H: Who? Julie the PDGA is filled with people who couldn't win their student government elections in high school and now have positions of power simply because they are willing to do some grunt work. How many of these elections are held without opposition? If you're willing to volunteer you will be given power you're not responsible enough to wield. That in and of itself demonstrates that this isn't an organization of a professional sport, but a really big club of amateur athletes pretending to be pros.
JC: But there are separations between pros and ams.
H: Merely in name only. The despised Nick Kight is correct when he says it's all pros, just some playing for money, and some playing for plastic rewards. If the PDGA was smart it would simply narrow it's divisions down to two: Pros playing for money and amateurs playing for trophies. The other viable option is to use their precious ratings system and have for divisions (950+, 949-900, 899-850, and 849 and below) and let everyone play for pay, and then they'd at least truly be an Association of professionals.
JC: Why don't they do this?
H: They are tied into the disc industry, and are also afraid that too many people would bail on them if everyone can't win all the time.
JC: That seems very small time.
H: Exactly.
JC: So what will you do now?
H: I'm not sure. I can't decide if I want to simply go on the z-tier superhighway and forgo any involvement with the Association or hang around, play in their sanctioned events and continue to mock them for their ways. The problem with option two is they have the ability to silence me in their forum.
JC: So what about Dr. Evil?
H: Who?
JC: I'm sorry... The Load.
H: I get fan mail forwarded to me here all the time, and my fans love me punking The Load. They recognize my superiority just as he does when he acknowledges repeatedly that I was the better player in 2006. His constant demand for a rematch is a desperate attempt to salvage some dignity after this win, but he fails to grasp that if I accepted his rematch offer/challenge of head to head and prevailed then his 2006 campaign and victory will be revealed as the sham all right thinking bored users know it to be.
JC: So what will you do?
H: Julie...I'm no sissy. (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=629052&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1)
Jeff_Peters
Dec 31 2006, 02:49 PM
Pure Gold. Some highlights for me were :
1)The public know who was the better player in 2006, and he's still delusional enough to think it might be him.
2)My disdain of the PDGA centers around it's misguided priorities where time and energy is spent on trivial issues they feel matter concerning the image of the sport. They get into a major tizzy over what goes on at a message bored, while their number one public relations problem is the sport being perceived as a haven for stoners and unemployed losers.
3)...the PDGA is filled with people who couldn't win their student government elections in high school and now have positions of power simply because they are willing to do some grunt work. How many of these elections are held without opposition? If you're willing to volunteer you will be given power you're not responsible enough to wield. That in and of itself demonstrates that this isn't an organization of a professional sport
Keep up the good work in 2007 Hawk.
-Fan
Dick
Jan 01 2007, 01:29 AM
sweet! but i still won the bet. everyone shhould look for a repeat win for me in 2007...
hawkgammon
Jan 02 2007, 09:59 AM
Keep up the good work in 2007 Hawk.
-Fan
Thanks fan.
hawkgammon
Jan 02 2007, 10:00 AM
everyone shhould look for a repeat win for me in 2007...
Check out the fact that The Load can't even say that convincingly enough for himself without stuttering.
Luke Butch
Jan 02 2010, 02:28 AM
bumping to remind everyone of hawkgammons awesomeness