I'm sorry, but that (http://photos.imageevent.com/skylandsdiscgolf/2006/junk/websize/mohawks.JPG) is just hilarious! I have to say that I think you have Derek beat.

I saw 2 pair of sandals there when I left. I think they were next to a Skylanders tent. I'll ask around if they weren't turned in.

Thanks Sharky! It was great spending some quelfity time with ya!

Geez. What. Matt. Said.

Marshall Street is where I go to play a casual round of golf on a Friday afternoon. I'm lucky. My favorite part about disc golf (aside from watching them fly) is the gathering of old friends, and it's quite rewarding to see more and more of them at each passing MSDGC. Next year I'm going to make a week of it and follow it up with a trip to West Virginia. Good idea?

just curious but what happened with those haircuts??? lose a bet

Saturday night I think it was between the first and second rounds of the pie eating contest suddenly I noticed hardly anyone was around what happened? Anyway, I discovered that everyone was packed in the basement having a grand old time, I stayed away but as the crowd emerged many had new dews. :cool:They had the spirit. :cool:

Great pictures Sharky...looks like someone ran amock with a razor there though...tooo darn funny, love the do's! Craig's words when he came back to me were "You gotta go next year, what a BLAST!!!" so kudos to you all!!!!! :D

http://www.msdgc.com/msdgclive/2006/www/index_live.asp

Want to relive every painful (or good) memory from out on the course? Wanna see what the big boys got on the airplane hole? Click any player to view their hole by hole scores from each round, and see how what that player shot compares to the division's average on that hole.

More stats coming soon (# aces, deuces, 3's, 4's, 5's, 6+'s per hole per course, etc) but this is what's just gone up and figured I'd let everyone take a peek

For this scoring info to be useful for determining whether a hole spreads the scores well for the particular skill level a hole is designed for, the number distribution needs to be adjusted based on the player rating average of the players' scores being used. We have a tool to do this for members of the course design group but I think Enman and Gordy are the only New England members that would have it.

In case anyone missed it, observe that Steve Brinster scored a three on 820-foot 11th hole of the Maple Hill Airplanes layout on Sunday afternoon in the pouring rain. While it's mostly downhill and open, the last 100 feet or so to the polehole is in the woods and well protected.

For this scoring info to be useful for determining whether a hole spreads the scores well for the particular skill level a hole is designed for, the number distribution needs to be adjusted based on the player rating average of the players' scores being used. We have a tool to do this for members of the course design group but I think Enman and Gordy are the only New England members that would have it.



We will have hole distributions up for the whole of each division as well as the top 50 Pro Open finishers. The average rating of the top 50 Pro Open players is about 980.

Then we'll know which holes need to be tweaked - as opposed to Brinster just telling us that Airplanes 11 is an easy 3 (in 56 degree rain!) and needs to be lengthened! :D

Hey, Derek 3'd holes 1 and 11 on the gold layout at Maple Hill, sure he 3'd it in the morning when it wasn't raining, but were there any other 3's on hole 11 at all other than these 2??

I was one of 2 that 3ed it last year. Wonder who was the other.

BEAR

The average rating of the top 50 Pro Open players is about 980.




The easy way to do it is just eliminate the lower rated players from the 50 until the average rating is 1000 for those remaining :)

i'm sure steve has it under control

The average rating of the top 50 Pro Open players is about 980.



Sorry to bring down the average. I'll be movin' on up in a few weeks. :p

Great job with the stats guys. Thanks for all the hard work.

I'm trying my damndest to get back under 955 so I can play advanced again.

In case anyone missed it, observe that Steve Brinster scored a three on 820-foot 11th hole of the Maple Hill Airplanes layout on Sunday afternoon in the pouring rain. While it's mostly downhill and open, the last 100 feet or so to the polehole is in the woods and well protected.



I also carded a three on the 820' hole 11. I believe there were only 3 three's on the hole the entire tourney!

In the Rain

I'm trying my damndest to get back under 955 so I can play advanced again.



If you need some advice, feel free to ask me...........if I did it, you can too :p

i will be there shortly

me too- good thing too- i want to be able to play adv at the vti . my goals at the va open were to either cash or play poorly enough to get my rating down that far. :D

I seem to have lost a black pair of Native Sunglasses somewhere on either course...they are the RIPP model I believe, so if you find them, PLEASE let me know so I can get those back.
Derek also thinks he left a pair of Black/Green Crocs Sandals there somewhere...and a pair of shorts...and a shirt...and we both left our pride up there somewhere.

Hey Mitch...i was playing the Fairfield U. course today and bamn, right in the middle of the fairway was a BLUE size 11 Croc. Pretty wierd...I wish there was two of them. The first time i have ever seen them was at the MSDGC, and now, i see them everywhere.

Bleach on the Tee pads? Just regular bleach from the bottle? I've never heard of that. But then again, we don't get but around 20 inches of rain a year.

Green and black Crocs, huh, Yup, I've been wearing them. My new favorite shoes. Feels like a foot massage all day long. Shirts shorts and little pieces of pride abound. The only way anyone's getting anything back is to order something from Marshall Street, and give us a list of stuff you forgot. We're not a bunch of chumps you know.

And if we catch the moron who lit off the bottlerocket Saturday night we're going to sever his little head like a small piece of cordwood. Who was it and where's the chainsaw?

Southwicky - those are my sandals. I'll send you a pic of the bag soon, and I'll order up some goodies from you at some point. The Croc-sandals will be yours until I get them back and you properly disinfect them. :)

And yes, I was the other 3 on 11 Airplanes (there were only three) I also hit a 3 on Airplanes (nearly a deuce) It makes me feel less idiodic for playing like a mullet the other 70 holes.

The PDGA doesn't have it quite right yet either since they also sort on Current Total, not Over/Under par in their live scoring. Maybe the PDGA and MSDGC can get there by 2007?



There you go Chuck. Want to be on staff? Or one of the grandmaster spots (you that old yet?) You could make a week of it by visiting your buddy Dr. Doug in Maine. Check out Sabattus while you're there.

Just one of those crazy thoughts.

Or one of the grandmaster spots (you that old yet?) You could make a week of it by visiting your buddy Dr. Doug in Maine.



The skull must have been mind reading. It crossed my mind for next year and I'll be 54. But it's hard to think past being TD of PW2007 to such frivolity so soon afterwards let alone likely going broke from the effort. :D

chuck, dont worry. I'll be massaging the data thoroughly in order for jason and steve to use the data "usefully" for tweaking the courses where they made need adjusting. (especially holes that get deuced 100 times with 144 players, or holes that are almost entirely 3'd, with few deviations for deuces or bogeys). What I'm putting on the website is for the players themselves, or other interested parties, to take a quick glance at the data dumps.

speaking of which, if people would like to view the hole by hole statistics now (yes, this includes ALL players in the tournament regardless of division, rating, race gender or creed :)) go check out the msdgc website again. http://www.msdgc.com/msdgclive/2006/www/index_live.asp Each layout's data is up there - altho especially in the cases of Pyramids silver/MH Airplanes, the data needs to be taken with a chunk of salt given the changing weather conditions on sunday.

Pro Worlds is in the beginning of August - you'd have several weeks to recover before MSDGC at the end of the month. And with a player rating of 955, Chuck, you'd be the favorite over this year's champ, 939-rated Davis Johnson. :D

Don't think I didn't notice. Of course, there are other sharp eyed GMs out there with ratings higher than mine taking notice, too.

Hey, Derek 3'd holes 1 and 11 on the gold layout at Maple Hill, sure he 3'd it in the morning when it wasn't raining, but were there any other 3's on hole 11 at all other than these 2??




LL 3'd #1 @ MH in da rain
Brinster 3'd # 11 @ MH in da rain
Snoop 3'd #11 @ Pyramids Gold no rain
:D

MH Airplanes #1 was 3'd seven times, MH Airplanes #11 was only 3'd three times. No, neither of the other two 3's on 11 were one of the people who 3'd #1.

that means Fats is like the best player in the tournament, right?

and btw i saw him do it.

Hey Mitch...i was playing the Fairfield U. course today and bamn, right in the middle of the fairway was a BLUE size 11 Croc. Pretty wierd...I wish there was two of them. The first time i have ever seen them was at the MSDGC, and now, i see them everywhere.



Didn't we find a pair of sunglasses also today??

I like your faulty, skewed logic, Luke. :)

Hey Mitch...i was playing the Fairfield U. course today and bamn, right in the middle of the fairway was a BLUE size 11 Croc. Pretty wierd...I wish there was two of them. The first time i have ever seen them was at the MSDGC, and now, i see them everywhere.



Didn't we find a pair of sunglasses also today??


I do want those sunglasses back if anyone finds them...they're sweet Natives and run about $100...oops.

My wife and I ordered some Crocs today. I told her about them and she was instantly fascinated and sold.... and the price is right! $25-40 a pair.

I will never have a Pair of Crocs.

yeah, I got tired of my flip flops not being very functional.

They do come in <font color="red"> RED </font>

Keen

My highlight for the tournament was going -1 on Hole 1 at Pyramid's for the tournament. :) My next highlight was losing 4 discs in the water on Hole 8 at Maple Hills during practice.

So what's the scoop on bleaching the tee pads? I'm interested how this works. Could be useful during wet events. We've got one tee pad that didn't get a good broom finish on it when the Parks Dept. made them. I used a little muratic acid to rough it up, but it's still pretty slick when wet.

Does anyone know who got the Aces? There were 6 of them.

Bard Soleng - Hole 5 Pyramids Gold
Brian Thompson - Hole 4 Maple Hill Elements
Jasin Bayer - Hole 6 Pyramids Gold
Don Thoms - Hole 5 Pyramids Silver
?
?

Tommy Donelson, Hole 6 Pyramids.

Just check the player stats! Awesome player stats, Steve and Crew.

Good morning frisbee fans,

Here's the list we have for 2006 MSDGC aces:

Bard Soleng - Hole 5 Pyramids Gold
Brian Thompson - Hole 4 Maple Hill Elements
Jasin Bayer - Hole 6 Pyramids Gold
Don Thoms - Hole 5 Pyramids Silver
Doug Bechtel - Hole 18 Pyramids Silver
Tommy Donelson - Hole 6 Pyramids Silver

Before I engage in long division, and check writing, does anybody know of anyone else who got an ace during the tournament?

I left a red proto-Surge in the drink on #1 maple hill for you. Red w/ a plain white Discraft stamp. Awesome disc-enjoy! Not quite a skull, but the closest I have found. ;)

My highlight for the tournament was going -1 on Hole 1 at Pyramid's for the tournament. :) My next highlight was losing 4 discs in the water on Hole 8 at Maple Hills during practice.



Hello Chris,

We found 2 of those discs already. If you order something from Marshall Street (and include a little note that you want them back - and no, I don't know which ones they are), we'll throw them in with your order.

steve did they find my red Sirius Orion LF first run on hole 14?

We'll get everybody eventually. It's too much to thank the whole staff indivudally all at once.

I just want to mention three people, in non-linear fashion, for outstanding work at the 2006 MSDGC. Jeff LaGrassa, Dave McHale and Andrew Sweeton. The three of you were totally there for the whole thing, like it was part of you, like your rock-solid commitment to our cause guaranteed we could not fail at least in those respects that you had anything to do with.

Someone said -- I think it was Vinny -- Jeff LaGrassa is nothing like I thought he would be. I'd thought he was a total dick.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Surprise.

Jeff brought his experience and commitment to Marshall Street and helped us out big time. It was always a goal to have live scoring beyond the 15th hole last round and to have individual hole scores for every player in the tournament on the Internet

Dave McHale wrote the programming for the whole thing, working with Steve Daaaaaaaadge. Unbelievable.

Andrew Sweeton. Can you ask for a more helpful staff member?. Uh, no. Multi-extraordinarily talented, and so positive the whole time, while getting hard computer data entry and phone-in scoring jobs done. Man. And the bellow of "Two Minutes."

We want all three of you back. Name your price.

We want all three of you back. Name your price.



Thanks Jason! All I need is a few Vitamin waters, a couple of Frisbie pies and internet access and I'll joyfully once again take my ringside seat at the greatest disc golf tournament in the land! Can't wait for Friday August 24th, 2007!!! :cool:

I had a blast (http://www.sharkysshots.com/albums/userpics/10002/marshallstreet060014.JPG) at my very first Marshall Street (http://www.sharkysshots.com/albums/userpics/10002/marshallstreet060004.JPG) ! I did not hang out down with the crazies (http://www.sharkysshots.com/albums/userpics/10002/marshallstreet060013.JPG) at Pyramids (http://www.sharkysshots.com/albums/userpics/10002/marshallstreet060030.JPG) as much as I would have liked, however the quelf (http://www.boardgamesexpress.com/images/large/quelf.jpg) game up the street was intense. :D BTW don't think we did not notice that you (http://www.sharkysshots.com/albums/userpics/10002/marshallstreet060015.JPG) ate a pie in 28 seconds, and that schwebby (sp?) stuffed one in .4 seconds, got a funny look on his face, then someone said "He just made a big mistake." Too funny, thanks for everything and those courses will keep me dreaming of next time. :D

how cool would it be if the week before the 2007 MSDGC there was an incredible NT event somewhere in Vermont? imagine if the Vermont event featured 2 courses - one on a ski hill and one on a robert trent jones ball golf course. imagine that because it was created this way it would be possible for Ams and Pros to play in the NT event at the same time.

imagine 2 amazing events in new england 2 hours apart on 2 consecutive weekends....

fantasy or reality? stay tuned..........

Sounds awesome, Dan! Tell me more. :cool:

and imagine if the weekend before that VT event was Skylands! Woof!

Or are you talking about moving Skylands?

Or is this just a clever rouse to get folks talking about Skylands?

Cause it won't work Dan! I'm not even thinking about Skylands.

This is all about the MSDGC baby! Nothing at all about Skylands.

Next thing you know, people will start comparing Warwick and Maple Hill and then start talking about Skylands.

Okay okay, I give. Tell me tell me tell me. Come on GT, let me in on the secret Tommy!

I think it has something to do with steve going to VT after the MSDGC

until all details are confirmed i can't let the cat totally out of the bag. some of you are aware of the project steve and i have been working on. until we sign off on the deal it's still just a fantasy.

if the vermont NT event were to happen, it would be in place of the skylands classic at warwick, not in addition to it.

i'm hoping to have an official go-ahead early next week. then i'll love to share the details quite publicly.

Vegan Ray aced Pyramids 3 Silver, but not until Monday. :(

Booooo on no NT at Skylands.

second

third unless animalfest becomes a supertour

nothing is final yet. as it stands now we still have the opportunity to host the 3rd skylands classic.

however, the possibilities we are exploring would allow us to host a northeast NT event that could possibly be an even better event than we've ever hosted before....

like i said previously i'll know a lot more really soon, potentially as early as this coming week.

My highlight for the tournament was going -1 on Hole 1 at Pyramid's for the tournament. :) My next highlight was losing 4 discs in the water on Hole 8 at Maple Hills during practice.




Hello Chris,

We found 2 of those discs already. If you order something from Marshall Street (and include a little note that you want them back - and no, I don't know which ones they are), we'll throw them in with your order.




That's cool! Maybe I'll have to pick them up next time I'm up there. I actually lost 3 of my own and one of J.J.s 10 time rocs. Hopefully you'll guys find that one and get it back to him, I felt bad about that one. /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Good ooooole' Bobby Cowperthwaite (sp?) aced hole 10 MH on the first throw of Thursday's Skins Qualifier if I'm not mistaken.

and missed the Birdie Skins by 1.

If he had done that same shot 2 days later it would have earned him a hundred bucks - which is 100 more than Bard earned in the Birdie Skins.

any aces caught on video? If not, will there be 36 camera crews next year to capture all possible aces? :)

no, seriously?

If possible, I would like 36 cameras. We caught one of six aces on film, which is about right with 8 cameras.

36 cameras...wow...I bet i could score some footage on the DVD if that was the case.

Was it Tommy D's??????? The camera guy had a great look at that one!

I have built two pages which we will update as we get more discs:

Recently found discs: www.msdgc.com/found.htm (http://www.msdgc.com/found.htm)

All discs in the MH L&F: www.msdgc.com/found2.htm (http://www.msdgc.com/found2.htm)

Anyone else with images that they would like to share (and possibly get included on the DVD slideshows), please feel free to email them to me.

The more the better. Mo bettah.

Steve-
If I order something from Marshall Street, will you mail my Champ Valk back with it ("tfrank" ...white ... tossed in the drink on hole 1 at MH)? lemme know. thanks

Terry

Yes yes yes. In the "Additional Comments" section, just put this request "Have Steve bring my (insert disc here) to the pro shop to include with this order. Yeah baby!"

Sorry we didn't supply you with a bed. :D

Hole Stats for Pyramids Silver (http://www.msdgc.com/msdgclive/2006/www/roundstats.asp?rid=3)

The stats for the three other configs are available there too.

Why is it only the top 50 open players? Surely the other 40 or so couldn't have been that hard to tally. Or were there some seriously big scores?

Some of the other cards were apparently confused about which hole they started on and which hole they should start keeping score on so we've got some screwy data. Keeping it to the top 50 incorporates (basically) the money winners and it gets rid of the screwy data. (although I think the rain made the round 4 (airplanes course) a bit screwy anyway).

For example, last year there was a good mix of 3s and 4s on 17. And this year, over 70% 4s.

Hehe I got that 4 on hole 2 silver :-D

I got one of those 5s on 18....

Imagine how bad the fella that got a five on Pyramids 5 Gold must be. It couldn't be someone as good as Larry Leonard could it? He got 3rd. There's no way Larry Leonard could have snarfed a 5 on 5.

Or perhaps it was Chris Heeren. He got 4th. Could he have gotten a 5 on 5?

Steve, How did you like my shot on Hole 5 Pyramids Silver?

that shot was dirTTy.

It was also majorly awesome.

I am glad I told the girl Video taping what I was going to do b4 I threw iTT.

JusTT like TThe Babe?? :cool:

I am glad I told the girl Video taping what I was going to do b4 I threw iTT.



I am too. She still had trouble following it. Sjur did something similar, but without the red super suit. Maybe when you step up to Hole 5 next year, we'll call you the dueceler.

I am glad I told the girl Video taping what I was going to do b4 I threw iTT.



I am too. She still had trouble following it. Sjur did something similar, but without the red super suit. Maybe when you step up to Hole 5 next year, we'll call you the dueceler.



Whenever I hear Schweb say something like that and the the reply is "Sjur did something similar".....

it leads me to one conclusion.

THUMBER

Nope, Chicken-Wing with a backflip. It was amazing.

I was the 5 on 6 silver, thats a great way to start your round.

Schweby's thumber was cooler than mine...He brought the water into it...I used the bridge.

Does anyone have alternate contact info for Rob Tatro? I've been trying to order a custom table via the email address listed on his web-page and it keeps bouncing back. I can be reached at [email protected] if someone can pass this message on to him. Thanks

Cheers~
Terry

WHOOOOO....MSDGC baby.

Here's the 06 MSDGC DVD Trailer:

http://www.msdgc.com/images/06msdgc.mp4

DVD should be shipping before Christmas.

Also now available on youtube.com!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wg2k15pm4M