anyone know where to get a barry schultz beast online?

Hey stat Gurus.... here's one for ya. It would be cool to see the number of OB strokes per player. Who was penalized the most/least. Who kept it on the fairway and who didn't /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Speedy spectator report:
The 2003 USDGC was a great show. Hats off to Jonathon Poole and Harold Duvall. I don't recall a cloud in the sky, only screaming discs. Intense! I have plenty of stories. My personal favorite: Worm shows up and brews. Key!

Spectators get a disc or shirt. I got the VIP treatment at a low cost. It felt like a festival. Families of disc golf fans enjoyed a spectator friendly set-up and tracked hole-by-hole scores. The gallery was knowledgable but fascinated by the power and finesse. If any one screwed up,the crowd quieted.

The competition was All-Pro: big names everywhere. Every shot mattered. Climo and Barry tossing 5K shot after 5K shot. This was some good ACTION! I'm glad I did not miss a shot. Good show!

Finally, congrats to the Hotlanta players who raked in the jakes and played with class. Craig Leyva, Cam Todd, Ryan Renz, Jonathon Pierce, Phil Arthur, Scott Renz

Orlando Bloom. Was he there?

After the awards, I met a young girl who said Orlando Bloom (Legolas from Lord of the Rings, and also from Pirates of the Caribbean) was there and she got him to sign her disc. There was a lot of speculation, but while going through my photos I spotted the disc! I rotated it, searched online for an Orlando Bloom signature, and lo and behold, I do believe he was there. take a look.

http://www.usdgc.com/images/obloom.jpg

You make the call.

It would be hard to keep track of O.B. penalties since everyone doesn't always draw circles or make a mark on the score card.

Speaking of Ron Turner, he now has 8 consecutive rounds at the USDGC without getting a worse score than the previous round.

2002: 86 82 77 71
2003: 71 71 68 66

This is unmatched in the last 2 years of competition.

This year, only 4 players didn't have a worse round than a previous one. And Jason Light was the only one to improve every round.

71 71 68 66 Ron Turner
73 73 70 63 Brad Schick
77 76 75 65 Jason Light
83 83 79 78 Brian Shoff

By contrast, 6 players got worse scores every round, including Mike Moser, who finished 11th (61 63 65 69).

Hole 4 at Winthrop Gold:

Top 20 finishers average = 3.71
Field average = 4.02

Casey Blake has taken a 3 on it 6 of the last 7 rounds he's played there (3.14 average score).

Now if he could just master the other 17 holes and qualify for the tournament.

Will Barry win enough events the remainder of the year to be the first $50k in prize money?

I would love to see it.

100% of all OKIES CASHED!

100% of all OKIES never missed the clowns mouth

100% of all OKIES never shot over par even though one was 6 with 7 holes to go in round 3

100% of all OKIES agree that the PDGA and Sportsloop ought to take some notes on how Jonathon Poole runs an event. What an unbelievable event Mr. Poole THANK YOU! Give him the $50K

100% of all OKIES attending the USDCG would like to say THANKS A MILLION PAUL BURGY

100% of all OKIES attending the USDGC believes that BRIAN Grahm did a hell of a job as TD

Ellis, go to www.innovadiscs.com (http://www.innovadiscs.com) for info on BS Beast.

Thanks for throwing my name in there Rodney. You know that I like that basket /clipart/proud.gif. I wish there was a one hole qualifier for next year. Also, I need to show those guys how to play that hole, it's just two thumbers and a drop-in for birdie. hehehe

The latest USDGC rules scandal:

"It would be hard to keep track of O.B. penalties since everyone doesn't always draw circles or make a mark on the score card.

Unbelievable. I'm so shocked. See, Rule 804.03(C).

Wow, I learned something, I always thought the circle stuff was for pansies, /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif but it is in the rules. Sort of.

Throwing a shot OB is not a rules infraction and therefore does not require a notation on the scorecard.

804.03
C. Warnings and penalty throws given to a player for rules infractions should be noted on the scorecard.

Now we need volunteers to sit on each hole with OB and record how many shots went OB. How many on the drive, on the upshot, and on the putt. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Brian, I like your interpretation. I guess you're making a distinction between OB STROKES and penalty THROWS. It probably could be argued, but it is a sane interpretation.

I think Brian's focus is on the reason why the penalty is being assessed. If for a rules infraction - a notation must be made on the scorecard... if throwing out of bounds were against the rules - there would be many players on suspension after all that yellow rope and water at Winthrop /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

What I found interesting was that a player was actually stroked on one of the first two days of play for throwing the same disc which was just thrown out of bounds after the new lie was marked. I believe that this was later determined to be incorrect and that a disc thrown out of bounds may be used for the next shot if the player so chooses. If a penalty should not have been assessed, would this ever be corrected on the score board/payout/final standing?

DGRZ - any remarks?

i guess you were quoting me. i didn't think circling the scores was mandatory...i played with a guy last year who had 13 circles on one hole..

if it is mandatory, then i guess they should allow more room because i know i can't draw 13 circles around one score.

and really, is it a big scandal? c'mon now.

Thanks, I'm pretty slow. After rereading the rule and y'alls posts, the meaning of the rule is pretty obvious.

for the record, i averaged 86 for my 4 rounds and averaged 7.5 O/B strokes per round. this means i am lame. my best round was 5 O/B strokes and my worst was 11. this means i am lame.

congratulations to Barry Kenny, craig and all the other top finishers. This was truly one of the best events I have played in. So many wonderful improvements from the first year. Also many thanks to the USDGC staff and volutneers who made this event what it was. Can't wait for the DVd.
i also want to say thanks to all the players I had in my foursomes.

I threw 25 OB's for the 4 rounds...oops.

LOL...sorry. Didn't mean to start all this/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif I just thought it would be cool if we could compare who threw the most ob and who kept it in the fairway. I thought you were supposed to draw circles on the scorecard. That was my interpretation of the rule. A "penalty throw/stroke" is given when somebody throws ob. Certainly for 13 circles you could make a side note, just as long as it is noted.

Greek Boy, I thought we decided not to post on here for a long time......

Where the heck did drawing a circle on your card for a penalty come from anyway......

Its not in the rules...anywhere...the rules purly state that you note a penalty on the card. It doesnt not state Where or How...

I find its just a matter of where you live geographically.

Ive been playing 12 years...purely West Coast teaching and such........
We were always taught to cirle your birdies and to mark penalties with a "P". Still not a rule but made perfect sense. I figure that you might want to be able to find your birdies easier when adding up scores at the end of the round. (Ive seen many 3's look like 2's and vise versa) If the 2 is circled then there is no doubt. Doesnt seem to be a reason to go back and find all the penaltys that you took because they were accounted for when you wrote down the score on the hole.

Boy it would "Lick" to have to try to put 13 little p's as well as a "circle 15" on my card /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

I went OB 14 times during the 4 rounds (3,2,7,2)
So if player ratings were the same for "OB's per round" then the world class average would be 3.5 OB's per round or 14 per tournament /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

At the Worlds in Houston, Birgitta Lagerholm shot Like a 7 circle 12, I think. Anyway she graciously showed the circles on her card to awaiting media. The dreaded Dragons tail! "Meister"

5 OB's each of the first three rounds.
Scores were 71,79,83. Kinda' weird./clipart/crazy.gif

1 OB final round. Score was 66. Not so weird.

2 of the OB's the second round were worth it. Crossing the lake on hole #5 was too tempting, and I'm was too stupid (or stubborn), to not give it a try. The third time was a charm./clipart/happy.gif

Did anyone see any lefties throw a hyzer on hole #6? I got away with it on Friday, right after the two OB's on hole #5. Of course, I missed the birdie putt./clipart/wink.gif

I think I was just joking, or maybe trolling. Now I forget which.

Hey Jeff. I tried to drive #6 today wit the lefty hyzer route. I didn't make it. I got real close though. That'll be the money route when I get it dialed in... It might be expensive...

I lost a viking in there today. I could swear it was within reach of the beach, but it was purple and nowhere to be found. A little higher next time.

Were you the only lefty who tried that route at USDGC?

That's what I was wondering.
I bet Craig Levitra, uh... I mean Leyva, could nail it with ease, as well as many other lefties. I know Feldberg, and many righties could anhyzer it, but the risk vs. reward is not sufficient. For a lefty, with the right wind- or no wind, it might be a better birdie opportunity. I had to try it as I'm not sure I'll ever get a chance to play the USDGC again.
What a course! What a tournament!! What a life!!!

Just got back to the computer after returning to VA from the USDGC. It was an honor to be a part of this event and see all of the great golf being played. It was also great to meet and make new friends.

Hope to be able to do it again next year.

In so far as I know, circling OB strokes on the scorecard has never been a rule. It is however, one of several good ways to remind yourself that you recived a penalty throw on a particular hole when you are counting your score at the end of the round. A player may remember only making 3 throws on a particular hole but the circle reminds them why a 4 was recorded on the scorecard, thus helping to ensure that a correct scorecard is turned in.

Matt and Jeff-

I have thrown that route several times. Though not in the USDGC. I had some make it, and others not. Id say out of the 10 times that I have thrown it, I have made it at least 6. Still got a few beast lurking in the muddy waters. It's a sweet shot! It can be costly! Have fun with it!! The cut down roller up the fairway is always fun for the lefty as well! (another costly shot)/clipart/proud.gif

-m

I think I will try a DX firebird or teebird next time. I think dropping a Viking in the drink till I dial it in is getting expensive.

I have never understood why people insist on making a circle around the score that includes an "ob". A "dot" in the corner would serve the dame purpose. I am with the PGA,"circle" birdies, "square" bogeys. That makes scoring much easier for players and score (addition) checkers at Tournament Central.

The circles and squares for birdies and bogeys will help once disc golf moves away from "everything's a three". But for now, it doesn't help in checking score. When you work from a base of 54 (18 X 3) as your even par and add or subtract based on the number of strokes above or below 3 on any given hole, the circles or squares don't provide any useful information.

Speaking of circles, I have a nice reward for anyone that finds my red 1st run CE Teebird in the lake on number 5 at winthrop. It was only about 6-8 feet out when we lost sight of it (actually had it on the pole!), right where a second shot would go ob. It has a dcmarcus and a 2439 on the back. Also a pinkish red KC Teebird JUST off the green of 5. HELP!!!!!

here's a look at the worst scores from each hole of the USDGC...and because i'm borderline evil, i've included the names! /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

hole 1-- 5 McDaniel, T.Ellis, Bradley, Arthur
hole 2-- 8 Cuson, Whalen
hole 3-- 5 Rauenhorst,Sonderfan,Doyle,Ebens, Hansen, Crump,Service,King, Marcus, Wendt
hole 4-- 9 Carey, Rauenhorst
hole 5-- 11 Bunting
hole 6-- 5 Yoo,Warner,Schick,Connell,May,Ebens, Doyle
hole 7-- 4 Parlaman(3 times), Young (2 times), Marcus (2 times), Dussault (2 times), Frederick (2 times), Schultz, Bledsoe,Mace,Wendt,West,Korver,Kahle,Threlkeld,Cru mp, Brown,Duron,T.Ellis,Johnson,Todd,McQuay,C.Smith, Bradley,Haggadone,Hansen,Owsten,McRee,Picklesimer, Kallstrom,Evans,Howard, Pursio,Haney,Sonderfan, Rauenhorst,Jackson
hole 8-- 9 Crump
hole 9-- 10 Sawyer
hole 10-- 12 Howard
hole 11-- 13 May
hole 12a-- 8 Crump
hole 12b-- 11 Johnson, Takahashi, Opiela
Hole 13-- 9 Benbow, Service
Hole 14-- 10 Whalen
Hole 15-- 5 Duvall (2 times), Mace, Cansler, Johansen, Marcus, Doyle, Hagaseth,Evans, M.Ellis, T.Gill, Carey
hole 16-- 7 Tisue
hole 17-- 10 Threlkeld, Blakely, Whalen
hole 18-- 8 Peters

hey, i think it's great you named names. that means i finally make a list!! probably the first list i've made....

OK, bunch more photos are up... including, yes, the much awaited sudden death gallery.

www.usdgc.com (http://www.usdgc.com)

Wow, Dan, you should be happy then. you made the list several times. hahahahahahaha

Uh-oh ... is that a JUMP-PUTT I see in the first picture, third row, page 3 of the Sunday morning gallery????? (And did anyone on the card call a foot fault?????) /clipart/proud.gif

Why wasn't Jeff Ash wearing a collared shirt? I'm ashamed of him. Matt, LL said you took about 6000 pics. That's incredible.

Hey felix, it is a jump putt, and he is in the air. How do you know where he started?

I suspect he started from the ground. I think the issue is where his foot was when he released the disc.

Chris,
It was a faux collar, similar to what Tiger Woods wears on the PGA tour.
Collared shirts were requested, not required.
I had a collared shirt in Caleb's bag, in the Shack, in case I was asked to wear one.
You are the first person to mention it.
Next time I go, I promise I'll wear one.
I'm sorry I let you down.
I feel just horrible.

Dag, i made the list twice...perhaps i should play smart next year...or at least not 3 putt (hole 5, 7) or throw my second shot on 3 up into a tree...that woods on the right really [*****] to get out of.

Mitch, You and I made the list twice and look hole 7. I played it 1,3,4,2 But I still averaged under par. Hole 1 is just too tough for me! I can take a 5 on it and the 1/4 mile hole in the same round.

Hey Matt, just havin' some fun. After all, it wouldn't be the USDGC if there weren't some post-tournament controversey, would it? /clipart/wink.gif

(I will say, however, that if the thing on the ground in front of his right foot is his marker, given the position of the thrown disc relative to his hand, it's hard to imagine how he could have released it with at least one supporting point in contact with the playing surface (as per 803.03.A.1); if the thing on the ground is not his marker, I would think it practically impossible for him to have met the conditions set forth in 803.03, since the marker would be somewhere out of the picture.)

nice list!

Here's a close-up of the shirt that caused Chris Hysell to be ashamed of me.

SHIRT (http://www.usdgc.com/gallery/saturday_am/pages/DSC_0855.htm)

You make the call-

Is Hysell
1. An oversensitive Fashion Cop.
2. Concerned about the image disc golfers present.
3. Trolling.
4. Jealous.
5. All of the above

*Also take note of the material securing my bag to my Quadshock. One of my juvenile delinquent middle school students stole my caribeners, so I used Priority Mail tape. Shameful...

I want an autographed copy !

4.

6. Doesn't like that color on you.

I vote Tshirt.

That was the 1st time I saw that picture. The shirt I was commenting about was an athletic "property of" shirt with xxxl on it. It was during a brief scan of the pics and I never zoomed in on it. Sonderfan was wearing a t-shirt too but he isn't nearly as much fun to pick on as Jeff.

Mr. Hysell,
I do not own a shirt, nor have I ever worn, a shirt that matches that description.
I WANT PROOF!
I am now ashamed of you. Slandering my good name and fashion sense, tainting my performance at the USDGC with innuendo, diminishing the value of my two World Championships this year, and all in a public forum. Why I oughta.../clipart/wink.gif

Sorry, my bad.

That was not you Jeff. I sincerely offer my apology.

You can do anything with computers. I think Jeff was wearing a different color shirt and they changed it. Also, they added 20 pounds and made him look older, or they pasted his head on some other body.

Glen Bruhschwein, Nolan beat your boy. Are you paying Brad?

Yep: Give me a mailing address. 10's or 20's?

Congratulations Nolan: nice tourney.

For some reason the "display email" option on my profile had been toggled off. I've fixed that as of about 2 minutes ago - so you or Brad can e-mail that mailing address to me.

Jeff, now I am ashamed. You walked past Kyle of Phenixdiscsports (home of the Quadshok) and he let you go on with that packing tape? Nice.

Glen Bruhschwein............I'm back.I think you need my mailing adress so that you can send me that nice clean bill you owe me for that ill advised wager you made against ALL TEXAS disc golfers.The one guy you should have never wagerd against(which you did)bit you in the arse!Im going to be nice and let all our little cry baby posts about me ducking you and being a chicken on this wager go by the wayside.All you need to do is PAY UP!!!!By the way Darrel Nodlund you had me worried for awhile,nice showing.Glen Im sure you will be contacting me soon,right?

Glen you have mail ...

Glen i will be sending you my address soon

So all the Monday qualifiers cashed...Hhmmmm

Congratulations to Rory Self for winning the in-person Trivia Contest at the USDGC and to Bill Burns for winning the on-line version (http://www.usdgc.com/trivia/trivia.php).

Thanks to Innova and DGA for providing the top-of-the-line targets as prizes.

Take care,


Harold

Attention All Spectatators, Visitors, and Staff for the 2003 USDGC -

In an effort to garner future sponsorship, we are preparing an economic impact report for the 2003 USDGC. We can track the tourist impact of the competitors, but we need more information on the Spectators, Visitors, and Staff who do not live in the Charlotte/Rock Hill region.

What we are looking for are names, dates of stay, and estimated expenses while in Rock Hill. Even with the limited competitive field,
the spectator/volunteer component provides the Championship with the potential to eclipse other sporting events.

If you visited Rock Hill, you may post the information here or e-mail me directly at [email protected]

Thanks for your support of the 2003 USDGC and for helping make the 2004 Championship even better.

Take care,


Harold

Hey nude, i guess one is too tough for you, i mean, it is 224 feet i think and pretty straight AND downhill...that screams 5. Oh yeah, the no ob on the hold makes it REALLY tough. But then again, you did take a total of 2 strokes on 2 different holes so i gotta give you credit for that one. Did you give your nice caddy Jen any of that ace money?
Jen, i expect you to qualify next year, or at least caddy for me :-P

ALL RIGHT! Thanks Harold! Thanks Innova and DGA!

I was fortunate to stumble across this year's trivia contest. As I recall, last year, one had to get all of the answers correct in order to win. Thanks for changing the rules for this year!


This will be the second target I have won (the first one Ed gave me for getting an ace in the 1982 World Frisbee Championships).

Hard to believe that Ed used to give Pole Hole(TM)s away for aces on courses that he approved.

Looking forward to seeing you again, at the 2004 HOF event or WDGC!

For those that did'nt tee off early in the morning,Hats off to JPoole every day mowing the grass on the fairways,and essentially knocking the water down off the ground, one step above all, making the USDGC the greatest event available to mankind.

two years ago on hole #1 the lizrad lawyer mark ellis found a way to go ob. threw, hit a tree, dropped, rolled, kept on rolling untill it eventually reached the lake. now that is impressive.

for all those who are wondering what i got for caddying for two long days for tony.....
lunch.
by my standards that is pretty weak considering he had two aces.
his bag was extremely heavy and i think i broke my back in the process. thats why i could not go on and caddy for the rest of the time. i feel slightly used and abused.
dont plan on seeing me as a caddy next year. i am qualifying!! or i will die trying. hopefully my back will be fully recooperated by then.

That's it? Those Virginians are so lame. Hopefully he kept his clothes on the whole time. I'm sure the USDGC doesn't allow nude golf.

Chris, it's allowed if you don't get caught!

Sorry to hear about your back Jennifer.
I thought the general rule for 2 days of caddying
Was a nice dinner and 2 disc's of your choice , Plus a portion of the prize money if there was any. Sounds like this was at a major tournament to boot. Players need to take care of there caddy's. Lunch is a freebie. Somebody owe's you.

Did he at least fill out one of the forms Jennifer?

Where can I find a list of tournaments that are USDGC qulifiers?

couldn't get him to fill out one of the surveys either. take my advice-stay away from the virginians

for all those who did fill out a survey-THANX
and look for the article which should be in the next dgwn

yeah those virginians are bad news. i can't stand them.

I at least paid my caddy $100.00 for the 2 rounds he helped me. Next time get a percentage agreed upon /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

I would have paid $100.00 to have been Craig's caddy./clipart/happy.gif

Thanks Jeff, maybe I will take you up on that next year. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

no put- next year will you pleeeeeeeeeeease go BIG on #6 for me???
do it for the leftys!!!!

We will see about that? It may depend on what time of the day I start, if it's an A.M. tee time, the odds are pretty good that I will try it!!!! It is possible, but costly if you miss/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

When I did it on Friday the wind was perfect for it. I'd just thrown twice into the water on hole 5, and taken a "9". During my only practice round, on Wednesday, I was eyeballing that route. Not knowing if the opportunity would ever present itself again, I thought it would be the perfect situation. It really does look pretty going way out over the water like that.
Man, I gotta get back to Rock Hill someday... even if it is just to caddy for Craig, or Jennifer. /clipart/happy.gif

the shots only like 450 if you go big-no problem- you could probably do that with your aviar!
and if it goes ob play for your four. easy!

Cograts Bill Burns! Rules and Trivial Guru! OOPS! I meant Trivia. You must have a Huge Library! I would like to peruse it sometime! I bet you spent at least 20 hours lookin up those answers, Right? You are the man. Have you been keeping up with master Griders recent accomplishments? Quite impressive! Go Little Hoondie! Now Bill! How many Disc Golf shots are named after real people?/clipart/proud.gif "meister"

does anyone know if the handicap adjusted scores and payout are posted anywhere? i'm partically interested in the last round results for that.
rt

Think about it, if I don't make land on the fly, I have to take it where it was last in bounds. This means that I will be lying three from 40 feet in front of the tee, at the waters edge. This is not the event to go risky on that hole, and lose a vital disc!!!!!! We will see next year...

whats with the pessimistic point of veiw? you'll never make it with that attitude! JUST DO IT!

actually, it's almost halfway to the basket. I threw it and a simple little roc shot put me safe on the beach. low ceiling shot, yeah, but it's cake.

not worth the risk of o.b. in my opinion. take your par and move on.

hole #6
barry schultz..rd.1--3
rd.2--3
rd.3--3
rd.4--3

it worked for him.

My point exactly. If you want to be a contender in this event, the risk/reward factor is very important!!!

But then again, if you are going down, you might as well go down in flames. Either way, the shot from the tee plays less than 450, it is 400 max around the trees and over the lake. I did it a few years ago in a practice round (RHBH). A silly shot yes, but a good way to go down in flames.

Harold:
Where can I find a list of tournaments that are qualifiers for USDGC?
It's hard to believe there is only one in Texas (Waco, which is early in the season and therefore a difficult qualifier) and none in Oklahoma. Just looking for a way to make it to (most likely) the premier tournament in disc golf.

Dear Chris -

The Qualifiers have not been finalized. The list will probably closely mirror the list of National Tour events plus the Southern National Championships.

Take care,

Harold

Craig Levya..you have some email. If you don't have it, please contact me at [email protected]

Willy

I remember WillyC./clipart/wink.gif

Thanks for your reply Harold. Is there a posted list somewhere of last years qualifiers for USDGC?

Dear Chris -

The qualifiers were: Wintertime (Pasadena), Memorial (Phoenix), Pyramids (Leicester, MA), Crosstown (Raleigh), Waco, Seneca Soire (Gaithersburg), Masters Cup (Santa Cruz), Bowling Green, Augusta, Brent Hambrick (Columbus), Tacoma, Mad City Open (Madison), KC Wide Open (Kansas City), Southern National Championships (Baton Rouge).

Take care,


Harold

Hauf,

My huge library is the Internet. I was just fortunate enough to have a little time to try and figure out the answers. BTW, I did not get 100%, since I didn't answer every question.

"How many Disc Golf shots are named after real people?"

Only one I can think of...the "Haufnagle"!

Speaking of naming things, when I started playing DG, I thought, from listening to other players, that there were a lot of trees with names like 4-letter words:

Throw - (SCHMACK!) - "D### Tree", or "####ing Tree!" /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

> BTW, I did not get 100%, since I didn't answer every question.

Um ..., not to stir up a tempest in a teapot, but according to the USDGC trivia contest rules (http://www.usdgc.com/trivia/trivia.php):

"For the Internet version, the contest will be over when the first correct set of answers is received."

Was I the only person to interpret that to mean "complete set" rather than "correct answers to the questions for which an answer was submitted, not all questions need to be answered"?

[For the record, I did not enter the contest, nor did I plan to do so, so it really doesn't make any difference to me; had I been planning to enter the contest but refrained from submitting an entry until I had all the answers, I would be more than a little upset.]

Thanks for the information Harold, hope to see you at Rock Hill next year.

Dear Felix -

Great Catch. We will reward Bill's target as promised, but we will also be glad to reward a Discatcher Pro to the first complete set of correct answers.

Take care,


Harold

> "How many Disc Golf shots are named after real people?"
>
>Only one I can think of...the "Haufnagle"!

Bill, Bill, Bill ... you missed the most obvious and most elementary ... the Hyzer, named after H. L. "Fling" Hyzer, father of the flying flutterball (cited by Dr. Stancil Johnson in his authoritative work, Frisbee, 1975.)

For missing so obvious an answer, you must send your basket to me. Check your e-mail for my address. /clipart/proud.gif/clipart/proud.gif/clipart/proud.gif


<FONT SIZE="-2">Yeah, I know some people say that Stancil Johnson himself invented the term "hyzer" and that "H. L. Hyzer" is simply an invention of his imagination to give the term an air of credibility, but are you REALLY going to trust what "they" (and just who are "they" anyway?) say over the word an International Frisbee Hall of Famer who's put his credibility on the line in print for all to see? /clipart/proud.gif</FONT>

Dear USDGC Staff,

On behalf of disc golfers everywhere i would like to thank you for the overwhelmingly enjoyable experience you provided at the 2003 USDGC. 2003 was the first year i qualified for the USDGC and from talking to past attendees my expectations of what to expect at your tournament were very high, but i am happy to say that you guys topped even my high standards!

the one word i would use to describe my experience in rock hill is "honor". it was truly an honor for me to represent my home state of louisiana at your tournament, and the USDGC staff went above and beyond making all of us competitors feel honored to be there. from the beautifully manicured and psychologically challenging course to the special players packages, the golf cart shuttles, the huge purse, and a myriad of nice small touches including mr. poole's homemade ice cream, you guys really outdid yourselves and i can't thank you enough. i'll be honored when i tell my grandkids that i was fortunate enough to have the talent to compete and cash at disc golf's greatest tournament.

oh my...i'm getting all teary-eyed like maceman when he received the golden rake...but it's no wonder he did! thanks again for everything you do for our sport, and i hope i'll see y'all next year!

sincerely,
mikey kernan #14304

p.s. i'm still unsponsored. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Hey Mikey, I really enjoyed meeting and playing the final round with you! I look forward to seeing you at other events.

Later
McCabe

Felix,

I interpreted the phrase that stated that the Internet portion of the contest would be over once a fully correct version has been received to mean that if a fully correct version was received via Internet before the 2PM Sunday deadline set for the attendees, then that portion would be over, otherwise, internet submissions would be accepted until the 2PM cutoff time. I imagine that it was thought that it would be much more likely that someone using the Internet's resources could come up with a 100% than an attendee.

But, I could be mistaken...

I started on last year's trivia contest, but when I read that you had to get all of the questions right, I quickly stopped, because I knew that there was no way I could do that. I didn't see such a statement on this year's contest.

Also, just noticed that I could win ANOTHER basket if I DO get all of the answers right. Back to the internet for more research!

Re: HL Hyzer. He prob. has the same origin as Harvey J. Kukuk.

McCabe, you showed a huge amount of class in that last round. i can't remember seeing someone get as many bad breaks as you did! but you kept your cool, never complained, and i'm glad you ended up in the cash...you are a true credit to the sport. see ya next year in rock hill!

Bill, I don't see how your interpretation can be derived from the phrase "once a correct set of answers is received." The only cutoff point specified for the Internet version is "once a correct set of answers is received." Obviously, that could be prior to the Sunday, 2:00 PM cutoff point for attendees, but there is nothing in the rules to suggest that the Sunday, 2:00 deadline has or was to have any bearing on the Net version. (Also, as I recall, there were at least two occasions since last year's USDGC that Harold posted that the Internet version of the 2002 Trivia Contest had not been completed and was still taking submissions.)

As I said earlier, I didn't enter and wasn't planning to, so I have no stake in it either way. My interest is purely academic, i.e., at some point, I would like to see a complete set of answers to last year's and this year's contests. (I do think it would be bad form for you to try to get another basket out of it, though.)

Dear Ron -

The DGU handicap results for Round 4 are now viewable in the scores section at: http://www.usdgc.com. Those who won money in rounds 1,2,3 should have received their winnings as they turned in their scorecards for the subsequent rounds. The checks for round 4 winners were sent last week.

Take care,

Harold

Felix,

I was just kidding about getting another basket. ;)

Anyway,

I get a call from my wife at home yesterday, "You just got a basket!" I forgot to tell her that it was coming. That's OK, she's an inactive PDGA member, and I did tell my 12yo son, who is active...

All that to say, <font color="blue"> THANK YOU, HAROLD!!! :D </font> Am looking forward to assembling my new DiscatcherTM this weekend.