if it doesn't prompt you for a log in, just access the site with the player thru your browser history.


the live coverage of the lead card right now is pretty great.

back in! woo hoo!

Much better today announcing. Mace and Dave G. you two are doing a very nice job complementing and allowing each other to talk. Not talking over one another is much easier listening for the viewer. Nice job and thank you...des.

I hate rooting for people to do badly... but c'mon need 5 or so more people to slip bad so Jimmy "OHYEAH" Bates can make the cut!

I think Steve Lambert made that wall

I hate rooting for people to do badly... but c'mon need 5 or so more people to slip bad so Jimmy "OHYEAH" Bates can make the cut!

agreed. that was a good fight today.

great coverage. I love it!!!

agreed. that was a good fight today.
Yeah, I don't think he's in. :( Almost no chance without some DNFs now. He had it easy until that 8 on 18 today. If he takes a 7 he makes the cut.

this non commercial break is ridiculous. how can they beg for donations when they're off the air?

4:18 PM EST: they are taking another 5 minute break. You should demand your money back. http://bearclaws.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

how many make the cut and what is that score??

I don't know how anyone can complain about this coverage? YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS!

This coverage is amazing! THanks so much to everyone for making it happen.

4:18 PM EST: they are taking another 5 minute break. You should demand your money back. http://bearclaws.org/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

who do you think payed for all of this....?

you are more difficult to understand than i am, jeff. good work.

what is your point?




Yeah, I don't think he's in. :( Almost no chance without some DNFs now. He had it easy until that 8 on 18 today. If he takes a 7 he makes the cut.


man. one stroke.

who do you think payed for all of this....?


look at arthur leading by example. a true inspiration for the entire organization. one of the few dg fans who enjoy the game as much as me.

this is fun, right?


see you tomorrow, bro.

look at arthur leading by example. a true inspiration for the entire organization. one of the few dg fans who enjoy the game as much as me.

this is fun, right?


see you tomorrow, bro.

Fun?! This is a blast.

Maybe all the nay sayers can bid to provide the service next year.

Bring all your geek equipment you know about and bring your announcer/camera/stats A GAME. Then we'll see how much "constructive" critisim you get from the rest of us.

man, c'mon. when's today's session gonna be available for archived viewing?



pick pig. go mi.

also, i really don't understand the position that this broadcast is beyond reproach. i have enjoyed it all, including the missteps.

why does that mean i should not renew next year?
why is criticism taken so harshly?
how are we to progress without the input of this knowledgeable and talented collective?
why is what could be done taken to mean what is being done is not enjoyable?
why would anyone offer that there is not room for improvement?


maybe the powers that be and their cheering team would rather come up with these ideas, and suggestions, and observations themselves? i dunno. i know a few people that posted in this thread seem to be implying that. well, that is cool with me. you act like finally being able to watch a golf tournament deserves a moment of silence and is something to worship. it's really neat, but it's also ten years into the twenty first century. i think the commentators were pretty great. does that mean that it is too much to expect that they be prepared for the task at hand. is it wrong to suggest that sports broadcasting is old hat and that a successful formula, of sorts, has already been established? i just care, i guess, and try my best, with the voice my support allows me, to further the cause by pushing my hardest, albeit sometimes rudely.


go lions.

Fun?! This is a blast.

Maybe all the nay sayers can bid to provide the service next year.

Bring all your geek equipment you know about and bring your announcer/camera/stats A GAME. Then we'll see how much "constructive" critisim you get from the rest of us.

please tell me where to send monetary support for the prospect of said geek equipment. i have donated all three days. dude, tomorrow i'm going platinum.

I think the coverage is awsome. You can never please everyone. Good Job guy's. I am looking forward to the Jenkins DVD. That will be awsome

I think the coverage is awsome. You can never please everyone. Good Job guy's. I am looking forward to the Jenkins DVD. That will be awsome


I agree. Great Coverage.

Also, Nice job staff. Wish I could be there to help.

Next Year!!!

good time playing my first round of mini glo (first round of mini at all) w/ the crazy Canadians!

also have reports as of 10p there were already 2 people camped out for this years roc release... amazing!

and GG comes through w/ the win in Distance w/ Big Jerm a close second (unofficially 585 and 579 respectively)... i think Bratten was 3rd... maybe Avery were around 560

top 5 throw in the King Masher but i'm not sure who they all are... Jerm, GG are the only 2 I can confirm for sure

I don't know how anyone can complain about this coverage? YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS!

This coverage is amazing! THanks so much to everyone for making it happen.

I don't necessarily think that people wanting MORE & BETTER is a bad thing. This IPTV technology is brand new to some of us and we are working VERY hard to bring you the best LIVE...I repeat..."LIVE" coverage that we can. Everyday we have improved our processes and procedures and I think it can be seen in the day to day archives.

This is a first effort and we WILL try to perfect it as it is utilized on the final day of USDGC and certainly WILL perfect in upcoming tournaments. Hang in there with us and thank you to all tuning in and enjoying the coverage.

And a personal thank you from me to Dr. John Duesler, Brian Graham, Terry Roddy and the PDGA for allowing me to play a part in this historical IPTV live broadcast.

Thank you everyone :-)

big ups to rob engle, fo sho
terry roddy, no doubt
mace, yep discipedia
mr b, good work
twisted rotan, stay awesome
master greenwell, nothing but money
t dogg, take money
dr john, poop

anyways, bravo. the archives won't lie.




love you all for providing, and in a lot of cases volunteering, your skills.

Well, I for one have no doubt that the coverage will get better from year to year. Everything Jason Poole, et al., do with this tournament gets better from year to year. The coverage getting better is almost a logical necessity.

First - I have had no problems at all viewing the LIVE coverage (I have not donated, for those that have conspiracy theories abound) - every time I have logged in to watch - no interruptions / losing the site / not being able to log back in - etc...THANKS to everyone involved.

As for information:

I inquired if the USDGC coverage was going to follow the Final Group for ALL 18 holes? - and was informed that the coverage is limited to the 4-5 holes that have been covered up until now. So, no "Lead Group" coverage except #1 - #3 - #17 - #18 - #?

The "archives" are available and simple to view - the next day - (I watched one just after mid-night on Thursday) - they are an easy "click" away.

I am viewing from my home computer - an iMAC, which is 6-7 years old, and have had no problems (excluding the minor audio changes) - so, all of the problems (which quickly become "issues" for whining and crying) are on the end of the person with the problems - not form the broadcast itself. Yes, even if you are at a place with the most "powerful" computers in the world - still the problems are on your end.

Ideas:

To cover the Lead Group for all 18 holes - (but, I understand the limits, as they have been explained - the broadcast is "hard-wired" and it is not possible to traverse the entire course with the current set-up) - so, hopefully in the future.

Also, (Not that the USDGC needs any extra money) - but, I think if the Monday qualifiers were allowed to START on hole #17, instead of playing 16 holes and, maybe, quitting due to their score on hole #17, it would speed up the turn-over of players playing and paying = extra $$$. Each player that does poorly on #17 would just pay right after that hole for another round - again starting on #17...

Opinions:

Great broadcast - with all of the "growing-pains" included. It is a start, and IMO a very good one...only to be improved upon by those who took on the endeavor in the first place.

The COMPLAINTS, not constructive criticism, but COMPLAINTS - about the broadcast / PDGA personnel...are really childish, unwarranted and invalid when compared to the actual effort of those people / events / TDs etc...that are the targets of the complaints. IMO for the amount we pay to be members of the PDGA, we get more than our moneys worth.

I have said before, when the PDGA was growing, it needed ALL the support it could get - now that the PDGA is established to a solid degree, the organization can survive without those who do not wish to be a part of it... I am not for the - "if you do not agree with EVERYTHING the PDGA is doing, do not renew", but personally would prefer ideas, insight and intelligent dialogue verses the empty complaining mentality of many.

You see - this post had feed-back - information - ideas - opinion - without being negative, or singling out anyone for the "what can I find wrong with the PDGA today?" crowd.

And the "fun" part - predictions...Doss wins with a final round of 59 - 2nd Phil - 3rd Dave

Chains

Can't get on, so we don't get to see the top 50 tee? Is coverage going to start at 11am again? If so Why? Everyone is teeing earlier today.

Lets Go Dion Arlyn, first time playing at the USDGC, got on a plane Sunday evening after running a stellar B-tier, the 11 annual Willamette Open in Corvallis Oregon. Now sitting on the second card for the last round. That is awesome, the only sub 1000 rated player(rounding or something) to be there way to go.

There is much love for you back here in Oregon by all the golfers so go out there and do what you have been doing and get that top ten finish!

He won't be sub 1000 much longer. Props to one of the good guys for upping his game.

final round coverage of the lead card is awesome. kudos again!!!

Great broadcast - with all of the "growing-pains" included. It is a start, and IMO a very good one...only to be improved upon by those who took on the endeavor in the first place.

The COMPLAINTS, not constructive criticism, but COMPLAINTS - about the broadcast / PDGA personnel...are really childish, unwarranted and invalid when compared to the actual effort of those people / events / TDs etc...that are the targets of the complaints. IMO for the amount we pay to be members of the PDGA, we get more than our moneys worth.

I have said before, when the PDGA was growing, it needed ALL the support it could get - now that the PDGA is established to a solid degree, the organization can survive without those who do not wish to be a part of it... I am not for the - "if you do not agree with EVERYTHING the PDGA is doing, do not renew", but personally would prefer ideas, insight and intelligent dialogue verses the empty complaining mentality of many.

You see - this post had feed-back - information - ideas - opinion - without being negative, or singling out anyone for the "what can I find wrong with the PDGA today?" crowd.

Awesome post, Brandon. You state my exact sentiments much more eloquently than I ever could.

You get it, and it's too bad the complaining-for-the-sake-of-complaining crowd never will.

How did Nikko go from -29 to -30 on what looked like a 4p on the par-4 10th hole??? I just startde watching the "dots" coverage.

TIA.

Live scoring shows Nikko took a 3 on 10.

Live scoring shows Nikko took a 3 on 10.

"dots" coverage shows an OB drive and a 2nd drive. Oh well. :)

Josh Anthon is killing it! -17 after 17 holes! Why are they going to commercial when the course record is on the line?

IT'S OFFICIAL - JOSH ANTHON SETS A NEW COURSE

RECORD OF 53! :eek:

Josh you are great. Way to go, let them know. Big fan.

Feldberg with a HUGE putt to the salvage the tie for 2nd with Anthon. :cool:

congratulations nikko!

Great coverage all around. Streaming video, live scoring, Twitter, Dots....it's almost better than being there. Thanks to all involved!

Anthon's 53 is 15 under not 17 under. An amazing feat that should stand for a long time. Feldberg's putt on 18 was huge. Congrats to Nikko on his first US title.

"dots" coverage shows an OB drive and a 2nd drive. Oh well. :)

Hole 10 had the BunCR rule in effect I believe. Therefore, a retee would be throwing 2 instead of 3 just like on hole 17.

Feldberg with a HUGE putt to the salvage the tie for 2nd with Anthon. :cool: i think he was second alone.

It looks like some of the scores and PDGA numbers are not jiving on the PDGA scoring page, look at Paul McBeth and Justin Jernigan for examples

I find it ironic that Nikko recieved very little coverage even after moving into 2nd yesterday, he was not mentioned by Dave Gentry in his PDGA USDGC post. Even the post of Nikko winning the USDGC was short and it seemed unenthusiastic.

Holy Christ... look at the scores out on the course today! Did someone go and widen the fairways in the night? Wider baskets installed for Saturday play? There were 33 rounds of 61 or better in the first 3 days, 11 per round average.... and 29 of them in this final round alone! A 63 went from being a mid-1030s round to a 1020!

I find it ironic that Nikko recieved very little coverage even after moving into 2nd yesterday, he was not mentioned by Dave Gentry in his PDGA USDGC post. Even the post of Nikko winning the USDGC was short and it seemed unenthusiastic.

Why not give the folks down there a little bit of a break. It's been a real long week for most, getting at the course before the sun comes up or earlier each day and working til way after dark. I'm sure more will be written about his victory at a later point. Plus the players/staff party was right after the round. As well as taking care of getting everyone thier checks and the fact that Nikko will be sitting in the clubhouse for the next couple of hours signing the VIP discs.

If you've never been there then you have no concept as to the magnitude of this event and everything that must be done after the final putt drops.

Rick if you remember the past four years there was ample coverage especially when Doss won his first USDGC...DG's post yesterday never covered Nikko...oversight??? Maybe...but it seems like there have been a number of oversights regarding Nikko in the past year. I hope now with this win he get the respect from the Disc Golf community that he deserves. He reminds me of Disc Golf's John McEnroe...lol.

it is completly unreasonable that the pdga treats the champion of our largest event like he's less than another would be champion!!!!!!
there was fierce competition and the winner is who the winner is, He should be interviewed and photographed as frequently as if another would be winner.
congrats to Nikko for holding his mind in the game and taking the win like a true champion!!!!

Nikko isn't exactly fan-friendly on the course (unless he is shooting 1070+). Most people have plenty of respect for his game, just not how he acts on the course- he is a perfectionist and has a bit of a temper. He realizes this and has been trying to improve on it.

he is however, one of the nicest guys on tour off the course, and someone who puts in a ton of time trying to improve.

and if you want to talk about poor coverage, Anton gets even less than Nikko, even after losing the playoff at Worlds.

well said Luke

i agree with you it is like these men are being treated as the black sheep of the family.
it is a disgrace that the professional disc golf association doesn't represent each player with the same vigor as another.

Thanks to everyone who made this past week what is was, always impressive how you can out do the previous year! I had a blast as always and can not believe how well everyone is shooting on that course. Impressive is all I can say, especially today!

On another note, I was playing a practice round on Tuesday before the players meeting and left my two putters in the basket of hole 17. Of course I didn't not realize until getting to the course on Wednesday before my tee time. It's sad that someone decided to keep them and not put them in the lost and found! If anyone knows who has them, I would really love to get them back. They are blue APX Swirls and have BS on the back of them. If by some chance you or someone picked them up and forgot to drop them off, please PM me and I will pay for shipping!

Thanks again for a fun week J. Poole and staff!

i agree with you it is like these men are being treated as the black sheep of the family.
it is a disgrace that the professional disc golf association doesn't represent each player with the same vigor as another.

This happens in pretty much every sport. Dale Earnhardt Jr comes to mind. He gets all the pub but sucks as a driver. He's the chosen one to market so they shove him down our throat.

I wonder what Nikko's win will do with the NT points race? Great shooting!

Nikko won the NT and received the check for $2000 before his USDGC trophy and $15,000 check. He beat Avery by 6 points. Avery would have won the NT if he shot about 3 throws better.

i agree Nikko could use so more love. hes young and most people thought the Big 3# avery, feld, climo would pull it out, most people expect a 20yr old with an attitude to blow up and lose it, But he didnt so props to him. I mean all respect. great win and now he will be looked at as the guy who can win. 15000, must be nice. And dont forget Hes not rep'n innova or Discraft so the sponsors werent talkin him up like they woul if he was wearing their brand........

Dude watchin this live coverage online was amazing....amazing I am so excited for discgolf and the exposure. i hope we all support them so they can come out and up the anny next year. this was awesome and i hope the exposure keeps growing. way to go DiscGolf and way to go USDGC, just another way they are the leading pioneer s of DG

And dont forget Hes not rep'n innova or Discraft so the sponsors werent talkin him up like they woul if he was wearing their brand........




Nikko was a gracious winner all props to him... hear lots of neg about him but the way he handled himself before and after the win was great Congrats

i agree Nikko could use so more love. hes young and most people thought the Big 3# avery, feld, climo would pull it out, most people expect a 20yr old with an attitude to blow up and lose it, But he didnt so props to him. I mean all respect. great win and now he will be looked at as the guy who can win. 15000, must be nice. And dont forget Hes not rep'n innova or Discraft so the sponsors werent talkin him up like they woul if he was wearing their brand........

The key is that Nikko is 20/21, and no offense to Nikko, but he is still a kid! I had the pleasure of watching him play in a local C-Tier earlier this year and talking to him during a break and afterwards. Nikko does have his moments during play, but is a very congenial young man when not competing. Give kudos to the young champion, how many others out there could or could have taken the pressure of the NT at such a young age. I guarantee veterans and legends such as Climo still feel it.

As more and more young people take to this game it's good to see that they may have someone to look at and strive to play better. Quite possibly 20 years from now Nikko will be looked upon and admired by his generation just as we "old dogs" admire Sullivan and KC.

Congrats Nikko, along with that championship you are now wearing a target for next year, just remember to stay cool and play your game.

Could someone who was there do an article about the final round? Maybe post it on the web page?

That would be nice - I would enjoy it - I'm interested in what happened - I'd like to talk more about it today at doubles with other disc golfers - maybe mention it to someone who doesn't even play disc golf -

Just a thought, it was the United States Disc Golf Championship after all.

I'm sure someone will. It is the United States Disc Golf Championship after all.

It is also just the morning after it finished after all.

There is a write up on usdgc.com

http://www.usdgc.com/10/11/locastro-hits-the-big-time

i think he was second alone.

So Feldberg hits a $2000 putt that really could've been a $4000 swing, because if you miss a 60 footer going down that hill there's no guarrentee you'll make the comebacker! That's cojones.

Congrats to Nikko. He seemed like a pretty nice kid when I played a couple of practice holes with him in K-zoo. I'm glad he's growing the hair out again. :)

He reminds me of Disc Golf's John McEnroe...lol.

That is so funny! I was thinking the exact same thing. It must be the 'fro'.

I know what you guys mean about Nikko being dissed, I mean, he got all that coverage at the Memorial, and I've seen video of him right here in every tournament he's played in this year, I mean who wouldn't think he was being dissed?

Me thinks some people spend too much time being paranoid...

I don't travel, and I've seen and heard plenty about Nikko, right here at this site. At least as much as I've heard about any dominant player. Yes, there is less total coverage of Nikko, that might be because he's pretty new to the scene relative to any major player out there. That attitude makes no difference is clear, one only has to go back and look at the coverage of Brad, Cam, and other surly players. BTW - I've yet to see or hear of any bad behaviour on NIkko's part.

QUESTION: Anyone know how to get ahold of one of those discs that Nikko had to autograph after winning the USDGC's???

Regardless of how busy things are - We're going into Monday without an article. Do you see other sports failing to cover their major champions with at least a recap up relatively quickly, within the hours following the events? This is huge news in our sport, as a member of the new generation of disc golf stars wins the championship for the second year in a row.

Regardless of whether or not its about it being Nikko that won it, this is the sort of thing that needs better coverage here on PDGA.com - even if it is only a link to http://www.usdgc.com/10/11/locastro-hits-the-big-time or a copy of that with a link to the source.

on the pdga results page, several players have the wrong pdga # associated with their name (I only checked a few after seeing that mine was wrong and they were also wrong)

didn't know who to e-mail about this issue, so I thought I would post it here

We are looking for a few good pictures from the USDGC to use in the next issue. Though we have usable photos of most of the top players, several could be from better angles. If you have some pictures you really like and are willing to have published in our DiscGolfer please contact us at photos@pdga.com and we can arrange for easy uploading to a ftp. Please don't attach huge picture files to any email.
Thanks

To come into the office this morning and expecting to read even a small write up about Nikko winning the event and seeing nothing but a photo and the statement he is the new winner is WEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are looking for a few good pictures from the USDGC to use in the next issue. Though we have usable photos of most of the top players, several could be from better angles. If you have some pictures you really like and are willing to have published in our DiscGolfer please contact us at photos@pdga.com and we can arrange for easy uploading to a ftp. Please don't attach huge picture files to any email.
Thanks


this photo makes me laugh. you are welcome to use it.

http://www.discgolfscene.com/media/23223_g.jpg

QUESTION: Anyone know how to get ahold of one of those discs that Nikko had to autograph after winning the USDGC's???


What are they worth? Andrew and I have two of each year 2005,2006,2007,2008,2009.

Note: except 2008 one used one new. all other new never throw.

Here's a link to pictures I took at the tournament.

Album (http://www.sharkysshots.com/thumbnails.php?album=176)

Slide show! (http://www.sharkysshots.com/displayimage.php?album=176&pid=8567&slideshow=5000)

http://www.sharkysshots.com/albums/userpics/10002/DSC_5058.jpg

http://www.usdgc.com/10/11/locastro-hits-the-big-time or a copy of that with a link to the source.

Now he looks like Jim Morrison.

Slide show! (http://www.sharkysshots.com/displayimage.php?album=176&pid=8567&slideshow=5000)


Nice work Shark!

I just wanted to say thank you for the great video coverage. I think all the commentators did really well, but I especially liked David Greenwell and Jim Oates. Congrats to Nikko!

Not to be condeming again but it is apparent who Chuck Kennedy wanted to win the National Tour...as a graduate anthropologist I have been taught how to identify biases even those that may seem slight. I feel that PDGA staff need to try to remove their biases in order to come across more professionally. This is about the growth of the sport, not just a few select companies.

I'm fascinated by your pop psychology inference regarding who I wanted to win the National Tour or did you mean the USDGC? Considering I've watched all of the top pros and posted stories, photos or video clips of all the top players over this season, I have no clue who that might be? My favorite was actually Cale since he's from Minnesota but I'm not sure I ever mentioned him nor watched him play any more than the other top players at USDGC.

I've done no story on the overall standings for the National Tour this year. I'm not even identified as the one who took many of the photos and posted video clips or wrote the stories posted on PDGA all year so it would be difficult to determine any bias if I really had one I wasn't aware of. I will admit I was pulling for David Greenwell to win the Super Class National title if I couldn't do it.

Not to be condeming again but it is apparent who Chuck Kennedy wanted to win the National Tour...as a graduate anthropologist I have been taught how to identify biases even those that may seem slight. I feel that PDGA staff need to try to remove their biases in order to come across more professionally. This is about the growth of the sport, not just a few select companies.


Who apparently did Chuck want to win the National Tour? For those of us with no graduate training in Anthropology, please provide link(s) to any of Chuck's posts here at PDGA where his bias is "apparent".

I do know that Chuck openly roots for his home town favorite, Cale, over at the MFA group - but I don't see that here at PDGA. I did speak to Chuck briefly at USDGC. He was very excited that Anthon could possibly set a new rating record on a high SSA course the final round. However, Chuck's excitement seemed more to do with his ratings "geekiness" than any company bias. :) Besides, neither Josh nor Cale were in the running to win the National Tour title last week.

So then why even mention that Avery would have won the NT if he would have played three strokes better??? If many people would have just played x strokes better it would have all been different...I'm not sure that was the appropriate comment when discussing the NT points winner. Saying that Nikko's win at the USDGC's vaulted him into first would have been a sufficent answer to the question.

BTW...Thanks for updating the USDGC Champion post Dave!!! It provides much insight into the future of the PDGA and disc golf in general. I am looking forward to seeing how Nikko, McBeth, Ulibarri, Orum, and the rest of the young guns fair over the next few years.

So then why even mention that Avery would have won the NT if he would have played three strokes better??? If many people would have just played x strokes better it would have all been different...I'm not sure that was the appropriate comment when discussing the NT points winner. Saying that Nikko's win at the USDGC's vaulted him into first would have been a sufficent answer to the question.

BTW...Thanks for updating the USDGC Champion post Dave!!! It provides much insight into the future of the PDGA and disc golf in general. I am looking forward to seeing how Nikko, McBeth, Ulibarri, Orum, and the rest of the young guns fair over the next few years.
Because it shows just how close the battle for the NT was. The fact that it came down to a scant few strokes at the final event of the year shows us what a heated battle it was. That isn't bias: it's excitement over heated competition! Go check the recap for most sports competitions: they tend to include the margin of victory, and when it's close there's clear excitement. Your "anthropological" analysis of Chuck is inane. That is to say: silly and insubstantial.


-Chris.

Avery Jenkins was the NT points leader before the USDGC. The various scenarios on how the top contenders behind Avery could still overtake him at the USDGC were listed in a preview article. I was simply highlighting the specific scenario regarding Nikko in comparison with how the previous leader, Avery, came up short by three throws. Here's how close it was in the NT standings:

Place First Last PDGA# Prelims Worlds USDGC Total Payout
1 Nikko Locastro 11534 374 80 100 554 $2,000
2 Avery Jenkins 7495 374 100 74 548 $1,500
3 David Feldberg 12626 368 84 95 547 $1,000
4 Nathan Doss 11794 388 66 88 542 $750
5 Barry Schultz 6840 376 74 79 529 $600

Nikko, Barry, Nate, or Dave could have won the NT Tour either by finishing enough ahead of the other contenders and/or winning the USDGC. I would still have made the same comment in relation to how many shots Avery came up short in relation to the winner because Avery was the previous leader. Those were just the facts, not any bias.

come on Chuck... I was standing next to you (ok... so I was on the bench) during the king masher competition. I saw your eyes light up when Avery was bombing drives across the lake! ;)

good data chuck and crazy/amazing to think a years battle could be so close with all of those guys!

I saw your eyes light up when Avery was bombing drives across the lake!
It was from the glare from Avery's white shorts.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30019500@N05/4003675048/

For those that want to experience a little of what it is like to be RIGHT next to the longest arms in the world as they throw nearly 600' BOMBS, please go to :

http://www.youtube.com/robengle

I apologize for not being able to shoot the discs landing. You could barely see them come down with the naked eye, much less follow them through the eye piece of a video camera.

I hope you enjoy!

It was from the glare from Avery's white shorts.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30019500@N05/4003675048/

Don't forget the glaring white stallion of the Revolution Bag!!!

Here are some pictures I took on Thursday.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vondrehle/

Because it shows just how close the battle for the NT was. The fact that it came down to a scant few strokes at the final event of the year shows us what a heated battle it was. That isn't bias: it's excitement over heated competition! Go check the recap for most sports competitions: they tend to include the margin of victory, and when it's close there's clear excitement. Your "anthropological" analysis of Chuck is inane. That is to say: silly and insubstantial.


-Chris.

BTW Chris....it was not inane. From my perspective, because Chuck had stated more than the required answer meant that there was more to what Chuck had stated. I took this as a bias because of the context of the paragraph and the event in which it occured. My statement may have been incorrect on the motive, but nonetheless there was some reason behind the statement that did not come forth in the post. So I am sorry that I was mistaken by what Chuck had meant, but most people in the disc golf community have not been very friendly to Nikko and have said some things in poor taste.

BTW Chris....it was not inane. From my perspective, because Chuck had stated more than the required answer meant that there was more to what Chuck had stated. I took this as a bias because of the context of the paragraph and the event in which it occured. My statement may have been incorrect on the motive, but nonetheless there was some reason behind the statement that did not come forth in the post. So I am sorry that I was mistaken by what Chuck had meant, but most people in the disc golf community have not been very friendly to Nikko and have said some things in poor taste.
It wasn't anything anthropological, though. It was you reading way too much into a statement and trying to look smart by throwing in that you're an anthro grad. Fantastic, good for you, no one cares. But the bias that Chuck may or may not have had wasn't something anthropological... it would have been psychological in nature. It would have been going over his mental process as shown by the subtle cues in the statements he made. To talk about how you're an expert on what an individual human is thinking because you're a graduate level expert in anthropology is you trying, and failing, to sound smart. Overall your statement was.. well.. silly. Inane.

I would argue that hypothetically, what if Chuck's favorite player was indeed Avery Jenkins or Nate Doss who had a chance to win the NT points race, instead of Cale Leiviska? Since 99.9% of us don't have fancy graduate anthropology degrees, would anyone even notice if Chuck gave "more than the required answer" indicating a bias? Is having a bias really all that unprofessional? There are literally tens of thousands of high school and college sporting events announced over the radio each week by announcers who are about-as-obvious-as-can-be fans of the team they are covering. That doesn't make them "unprofessional." I wouldn't even care if Chuck or any announcer came right out and said "I am a fan of Nate Doss." That does not diminish the level of professionalism in my mind.

Come on, David. It's not like Chuck or another announcer whispered "Buy Innova!" subliminally between sentences, or said anything in poor taste about Nikko at any point during the coverage.

With all the people complaining about how Nikko isn't getting the fanfair he deserves... The bigger our sport gets and more public our top pros become the more people are going to have favorites and ones they cheer for... the thing about this is that usually means they also have people they cheer against (human nature maybe? i'll leave that up to someone with a graduate degree to decide). But it seems to be the way it is.

In other individual sports you have guys that are the fan favorites and some that most could care less to see win for whatever reason. We are a 'fun loving' kind of sport so its good to see us not be as bad as some sports like Nascar where they will outright BOOO if someone they don't like wins. But if the crowd doesn't go nuts because your guy wins it may just be the way it is. Is there a reason behind it? Sometimes maybe ... it might be they don't like your player because of something they've done in the past or the way they've acted or as simple as not liking their brand/company. Other times it might just be because your guy edged out their guy in the end.

...but most people in the disc golf community have not been very friendly to Nikko and have said some things in poor taste.

One earns his/her reputation. Attitude is everything.

That being said, congratulations to Nikko Locastro for winning the 2009 Championship.

One earns his/her reputation. Attitude is everything.

That being said, congratulations to Nikko Locastro for winning the 2009 Championship.
Agreed - Nikko is one of my favorite people to golf a tournament round with after this year's Roscoe's Revenge where I got to play a round with him. He's a fiery competitor with a lot of skill. It's fun to watch some of his sick shots, and **** hard to try to keep up. BUT - He was also involved in one of the more embarrassing situations I've seen this year at the Bluegrass Open in Kentucky. I won't tell the story, it isn't my place - but it wasn't pretty and almost involved (or did involve? I don't recall) the cops being called.

I root for Nikko every step of the way, but he's still growing up and needs to control his emotions a little better at times. I have the same issue myself, and so I can relate and I know it isn't easy when you want to win so bad. But others have learned to and so we have to hope he grows out of it.


-Chris.

It wasn't anything anthropological, though. It was you reading way too much into a statement and trying to look smart by throwing in that you're an anthro grad. Fantastic, good for you, no one cares. But the bias that Chuck may or may not have had wasn't something anthropological... it would have been psychological in nature. It would have been going over his mental process as shown by the subtle cues in the statements he made. To talk about how you're an expert on what an individual human is thinking because you're a graduate level expert in anthropology is you trying, and failing, to sound smart. Overall your statement was.. well.. silly. Inane.

You are correct about that being psychological, but you are incorrect on it not being anthropological. In anthropology we utilize may different theories from many different disiplines in order to make references regarding human actions.

Our current debate is due to anthropology adapting evolutionary theory to our field. Not necessarily just the Darwinian model. You can Google psychological anthropology to see that we are both correct. So, yes it was anthropological and psychological.

Im going to try and change the mood a little and see if anyone knows what the VIP disc was this year as I was not able to stay and pick mine up but rather wait for it in the mail?

what was the name of company who was selling that new bag at USDGC?

Im going to try and change the mood a little and see if anyone knows what the VIP disc was this year as I was not able to stay and pick mine up but rather wait for it in the mail?

Yellow star san marino roc.

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/3681/dsc0195.th.jpg (http://img379.imageshack.us/i/dsc0195.jpg/)

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what was the name of company who was selling that new bag at USDGC?

Mystery Ranch, Bozeman MT

http://www.mysteryranch.com/site/index.html

I would just like to say : Seeing the last putt live online was awesome. We have come a long way.
Anyone with a Pdga# should be proud.


Job well done.

Kozak...