i'm an IT guy and so far i've never been a fan of streaming. Even with a monster connection( we have 100mb+ at work) video is always choppy and crappy. Would rather see disc golf monthly back when i had comcast. the exception was wehn i had a chance to stream sunday night football this year on the new silverlight 2 or 3 platform. smooth and sweet. not sure what this broadcast is like as i refuse to give out my credit card to sign up. that's ridiculous if it is supposed to be free. why would they need my credit card number? didn't anyone at pdga screen this first?

Is anyone else seeing this problem. The live feed keeps popping up a dialog box: "Multiiple users logged in with the same user ID. This session has been closed."
Fortunately the video feed keeps going until I click OK.

No but I see the back of someones head sitting on a bench, with Text saying coverage begins 11:15 EST

i wasn't prompted for credit card information when registering last week. the hold camera is up and running smoothly. as a fan, i am really hoping this works well. for sure we should expect some hiccups, but the proposition of viewing this live is awesome. i don't suppose we can expect any commentary, but maybe i will be surprised.

live coverage begins at 11:15 est.

i'm an IT guy and so far i've never been a fan of streaming. Even with a monster connection( we have 100mb+ at work) video is always choppy and crappy. Would rather see disc golf monthly back when i had comcast. the exception was wehn i had a chance to stream sunday night football this year on the new silverlight 2 or 3 platform. smooth and sweet. not sure what this broadcast is like as i refuse to give out my credit card to sign up. that's ridiculous if it is supposed to be free. why would they need my credit card number? didn't anyone at pdga screen this first?

The PGA performed flawless streaming video all year with their tour events and most of the FEDEX CUP events. The video feeds were live and not patchy at all. I am betting their budget is a little larger then the PDGA's though!

i'm an IT guy and so far i've never been a fan of streaming. Even with a monster connection( we have 100mb+ at work) video is always choppy and crappy. Would rather see disc golf monthly back when i had comcast. the exception was wehn i had a chance to stream sunday night football this year on the new silverlight 2 or 3 platform. smooth and sweet. not sure what this broadcast is like as i refuse to give out my credit card to sign up. that's ridiculous if it is supposed to be free. why would they need my credit card number? didn't anyone at pdga screen this first?

Credit Card #???? I don't recall them asking that. Maybe you chose the donation link??????

Live scoring is up. It doesn't start until players pass the sixth hole:
http://discgolfunited.com/leaderboard/round.cfm?thisLayout=YES&round=1

ok, i'll try to register again.

http://www.todocast.tv/pdga/nodonation

Oops, link without donation. The link someone else posted was the donation link. If you have the money supporting it would be great. Unfortunately i don't.

Donation link (http://www.todocast.tv/pdga)

Live scoring is up. It doesn't start until players pass the sixth hole:
http://discgolfunited.com/leaderboard/round.cfm?thisLayout=YES&round=1

Chuck in your experience how long does it take to play holes 1-6, 7-12, 13-18.

Just wondering how long a round takes and which sections of the course eat up the most time!

Make sure you click on the nodonation link and not the donation link. I registered. No CC needed.

good call on posting both links... money is tight here as well (as i'm sure it is most everyone) but I would strongly encourage everyone who uses this online service over the weekend to donate something to show support... donate 10 if you're glad they at least have it but the technology/coverage didn't work well or maybe wait and donate 25+ near the end of the tourney if things went well or you found value in the service.

i plan to wait and see what I think about it and donate something near the end based on the overall impression. I'm thinking by the final round it will be amazing being able to follow the action w/ video for the first time ever live!

right now I see hole 3 and it looks fine!

would still like to see a comprehensive spreadsheet from monday qualifying.

Looks like Devan Owens is tearing it up. I followed him and Kevin for a little while at Winthrop during there doubles round. They both seemed really comfortable on the course and they played great.

Now the camera on 17 is on.

even though the banner says 2008 championship, here are your live scoring links


http://discgolfunited.com/leaderboard/round.cfm?thisLayout=YES&round=1

http://discgolfunited.com/leaderboard/index.cfm?thisLayout=YES

Now the camera on 17 is on.

i still see nothing?

ii do now pjeh

i still see nothing?

i imagine they are testing to make sure all cameras are up and running. they are going in and out. anyways, you know what else is up and running, paul mcbeth... six for six.

i imagine they are testing to make sure all cameras are up and running. they are going in and out. anyways, you know what else is up and running, paul mcbeth... six for six.

Is Paul even playing the same course? He worked the first six hole now lets hope he can do the same on the next 6 holes and let everyone in the club house waiting to tee off what its going to take to win this day!

i still see nothing?

ii do now pjeh

I think the spotter on #17 should have a fishnet so he can stop bad shots that are going in the water....

nice music is killing mine speakers

With the advent of video we get commercials, yipee we have commercials does this mean we have arrived.

With the advent of video we get commercials, yipee we have commercials does this mean we have arrived.

dg on tv ! that was a good bit!

Chuck in your experience how long does it take to play holes 1-6, 7-12, 13-18.
A round takes about four hours. Each 6-hole segment has a hole where groups tend to stack up: 5, 10 and 13. Seems like players still get thru holes 1-6 fastest with the most birdie holes. I think four will play faster this year with the redesign which may just mean hole 5 will stack up faster than before.

Check out the new story I just posted on the PDGA Home page from yesterday's action.

Go Paul Ulibarri! Representing AZ, he has been tearing it up in his first full year on tour!

I saw a couple warm-up throws on 17. This is gonna be cool! Too bad work is getting in the way, but I will get to see some!

The audio on ToDo cast is terrible, can some one turn up the volume? My laptop is maxed and so is the volume control in flash player.

I saw a couple warm-up throws on 17. This is gonna be cool! Too bad work is getting in the way, but I will get to see some!

"NOTE: All shows will be archived and available for viewing after the LIVE stream, but you will still need to register to do so."

direct from the pdga via email

Can barely hear the audio! I paid, this is BS, do something about it now! It needs turned up a lot!

this is great. donate.

Cool they turned it up for one second and then back down. Work environments are not quiet places..... Put some power into the audio, make me have to turn down my volume so I can hear.

It's boggles my mind that during the qualifying round, 4 players had to go into a playoff to determine the last 2 spots. And then later find out that the first 2 cards to start the tournament went out as a threesome (and who knows how many other 3somes there were throughout the day). Those 2 open spots should have went to the guys that fought so hard all day trying to qualify and came up just short in the playoff. What a heartbreaker that would have been. It would have meant a lot to ANY player trying to qualify to get in to one of the open spots (that are realized after registration Tuesday night).

In fact, I had heard Sunday afternoon that Markus was not going to be there to play this year. So to see his name appear on the 7:44am tee time was a little bit of a surprise.

I strongly feel that if you have not registered by Tuesday night's mandatory players meeting, then your spot should be filled by the next in line with the best qualifying round. Sending out a 3some when there's so many capable and eager people wanting to play in the tournament seems like an unfortunate oversight and flaw in the system which I hope gets rectified moving forward.
In addition to, players qualifying, not paying in the 30 days, and then later taking a qualifying (another) spot from a more deserving individual.

motley

3 somes move faster than 4 somes, 3 somes go out first to not create backups.

mine just timed out and now the site won't come back.

After watching 5 minutes of TV coverage I have to say... I love it! It looks fantastic!

Now, I have to leave for the day... alas.

I just got the boot on the video feed!

can't even get to their main site. guess they underestimated the amount of people interested. another site crushed by the draw of disc golf. hopefully some people are still connected and watching...whats' happening?

Same here, I am out. What do I do???

I can't believe they didn't test this during qualifying.

you got to expect errors on day 1. They will get it going ........I hope.

I can't believe they didn't test this during qualifying.

Got the boot too, thanks for STEALING my money. What's the point of having Mace on there, we can't hear him.

Mine is off too, won't reload. hope it gets fixed soon!

I was cut off too. The only good thing about that is that hopefully this will be noticed and we'll bump "Paper, Rock, Scissors" right out of there!

(This comment was made by Addie and not as Memberships Manager who feels that every sport, whether it be those involving school supplies, be aired on ESPN)

the line is dead i guess

I just got the boot on the video feed!

same. the live scoring is fantastic so far, though. good show.

i'm also booted. also got the "another user registered under this name" message.

as much as it sucks to get teased by having coverage and then losing it, i recognize that there may be hiccups the first time around.

So did the video go down or did the site just crash? I was watching then it told me there where multiple users and cut out

well at least we got about 20 minutes of terrible audio. My video never worked but at least I got some commentary before it blew up.

The email just went out to 11,000 people about the webcast so maybe everyone is trying at once. Thank you for your patience.

Funny I can watch any NFL football game I want on Sundays live with my direct TV login and Adobe Air on this very same computer and I have no audio issues. Or video issues. I have to turn the audio down because it is loud.

Addie, love you. :) I saw your post above. :)

One Two Three ROCK!

I was really enjoying the broadcast, cant wait till they(The hosts) have a few days of practice and we are following the lead cards!

It just sucks that I was watching and then got booted off. I have to admit that it is cool as all get out to watch Disc Golf live as it happens

with live scoring, the todocast which is streaming great right now and my freind texting me following a group of interest i have to say this is GREAT. hats off the USDGC's PDGA and anyone else who has a part of this.

My server at work is garbage and the video is coming thru great for what it is. also if anyone gets an error message about multiple users under the same log in nmae jsut ignore it. if you don't click ok it will still stream

Waiting until the first day to see if it works is horrible. All this hype and nothing. I wonder how the sponsors of the deal feeling about it.

but once you get kicked out you can't get back in.

Thanks Ben! :)

I know this is frustrating, but rest assured the moderators of the webcast are the most frustrated! They will do all they can to get the show to you as soon as possible. Thanks.

So they didn't prepare for "traffic" LOL Awesome! An internet broadcast company that doesn't allow for "traffic" Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Deep breath Ha ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

Waiting until the first day to see if it works is horrible. All this hype and nothing. I wonder how the sponsors of the deal feeling about it.

Great point. I donated so doen't that make me a sponsor? I feel pretty mad, seriously ESPN or don't bother......

To tell you the truth I am not at all surprised by the lack of testing and preparation.

Yeah... Really cool and can't log back on now

Yeah... Really cool and can't log back on now

They have internets where you folk are squatting?

At least now I get an error message telling me they kow about it and are sorry for the problems. Whoo Whooo.

Back in now. :))))

This arrived from Todocast on the webcast screen (maybe there is a need for Spelling Bees on ESPN after all ---- "APOLOGIZE":



Oops!
An unexpected error has occurred. We appologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. We have automatically generated a support incident by sending an electronic copy of this screen to our support group. Please try your request at a later time to see if the issue has been resolved.



An error has occurred while trying to access the event indicated in the URL you clicked. We appologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. Please try your request again or report this link as broken to [email protected]



(Again, a post by Addie)

and out again. :(

come on Ben relax.

No problems from the start of the broadcast with audio (currently only at half volume on laptop) or video and I have a wireless connection here at the motel. I have the message about multiple users with the same login and just don't click it.

come on Ben relax.

I find it funny. I knew this would be the product we would receive, and I still donated.

One two three PAPER!

weird cuz i had some bad sound it the beginning but then it was normal again.heard some voices in the background or maybe another location?

I mean with all the sponsor exemptions and state rep spots, TD exemptions I can't qualify anymore and now I can't even pay and watch. Sweet.

I got shut down... UGH. Now it won't load tha page. Epic Fail.

Did they just underestimate the amount of people that were going to tune in to this thing?

I want to watch this so bad and it looked good while it was up.

Did you have to donate money in order to see the video? I never got video just the audio and the audio I had was pretty horrible

i can get on the site now, but is refusing to let me log in

whats going on here?

They have internets where you folk are squatting?

Yeah, Our next door neighbor has wireless... So we nab it from them!

It keeps popping up as Mulitple users any idea?

Even the ones who donated got shut down or error messages and alerts.

Why not make this thing a pay per view or something to assure those who would pay for it are getting to watch it????

too bad it wasn't pay per view only, I might still be on line watching

mine is back on.

I'm glad to see its back up and working pretty well. I guess I stand corrected.

it is pretty impressive on the part of all of us 'fans' that we crashed it this early on but definitely hope they don't underestimate how many more will be tuning in for the final round... no clue what type of numbers they had so far but would guess it would be 3 or 4x at the height of the final round.

still have to be patient and be excited about the fact that they're even trying to do this... and of course hope they work out the bugs... even if it takes all day today having Thurs, Fri and Saturday w/ full coverage would be amazing! When I heard they were going to do this I really thought they would only be doing Saturday.

it is on!

Mine's been back on for about ten minutes now. Keep trying.

on for me now as well

I got back in...

I donated and hopefully this stream is stronger..

I think it should have been a ppv.. a LOT of people are going to want to see this. Especially the final rounds.

As of now - watching - working - what a cool thing - way to go PDGA!!

Addie thank you for the words of encouragement I was getting frustrated and gave up to just look at the live scoring. It feels like I have made a significant accomplishment getting reconnected to the live feed!

3 somes move faster than 4 somes, 3 somes go out first to not create backups.

But isn't that the reason for tee times????

Are only the pay per view users getting the feed? I'm able to get back into the site but as soon as I hit Watch Now I get the Premium Viewer Event Registration form

Is there a link to live to scoring? My work will not allow the live link for Video.

Are only the pay per view users getting the feed? I'm able to get back into the site but as soon as I hit Watch Now I get the Premium Viewer Event Registration form

Go back to the USDGC website and use the no pay link and re-login. I was getting the same thing you are getting until I went back and selected the no pay link.

Audio is still way way too low.

But isn't that the reason for tee times????

even with tee times half way through the day you have a group on every hole. Tee times allow more players to play the same course in one day, but you have to keep it moving.

audio just got fixed

Go back to the USDGC website and use the no pay link and re-login. I was getting the same thing you are getting until I went back and selected the no pay link.

Thanks!!

Hey they turned up the audio, yea, It could go up a little more though.

Check out Joe Mela!

The old guy still has it...

Joe Mela 2 3 2 3 5 3 2 4 3 3 4 4 38 -8

http://discgolfunited.com/leaderboard/round.cfm?thisLayout=YES&round=1

live scoring

someone tell mace his foul mouth is still on the air

nice F'bomb Mace

Can we turn Mace's mic off? Mace no f-words K?

you've been "f'in" live the whole time Mace :P LOL

Why would you quit the event if you aced and won 10K? Some of us would love to play but get shut out every year....

who gets the comments from the viewer participation window?

I guess they are predicting an Eagle on #18 for George...not saying he COULDN'T do it but...

Working out the kinks with the video but it definitely is going to be a great tool to have for future events. The traffic flow has GOT to be a good thing in the long run.

Mace... no buncr on 3

i do find it funny to see the marketing director of our sport guessing the names of our top players

sad really

eighty two thousand plus rated players in the field. i found out by counting.

Nice round Paul Ulibarri -6 62 Go AZ

i do find it funny to see the marketing director of our sport guessing the names of our top players

sad really

+1 agreed

i dont think its sad that John D. wouldn't know all of the names... he's looking @ the same video feed we see and which is hard to see the people at times plus he's not going to know all of the players (especially considering the first timers out there). i'm sure all announcers will be tighter on names and calls and things as the broadcast goes on.

Tyler Horne! Yea Baby! Nice round! 61!

What was that Paul? ESPN? Really?

how about Cam Todd getting an eagle on 8?!... nice!

first two ever on eight?

nah... Val got one in a practice round I played with her and some others last year and then i believe she hit it again during the tourney... still an amazing 2!! even w/ the best drives it means you're throwing it in from a ways out

Nice shooting Tyler. And to think I beat you by 8 strokes in 1 round last weekend. That was enough motivation for you I guess.

Good to see you again!

Arthur

ouch... 9 for Matty O on hole 3!

Is anyone getting the DOTS to work online?

Is anyone getting the DOTS to work online?

keep kicking me out of dots

first two ever on eight?

Derek Billings also got an eagle on hole 8

what's the carry to the green on ten?

who won the trivia contest? i had to step away for a few

and to get to 10 it isn't too bad... 400-425 maybe but the wind out there and the green size makes it a lot scarier than it should/could be.

ouch... 9 for Matty O on hole 3!


Great recovery though. Five birds and an eagle to get back under par.

Get a couple more Matty.

deusler makes me want to stab myself in the eardrums. go grab some dinner, doc.

I think they said "dots" might be up tomorrow. So far vid is going great!

DOT's jsut beta test on the first day. they will be in full effect for the lead card tomorrow.

If you're so unhappy with the PDGA, then please don't renew next year.
Is this the official position of the PDGA?

Yea Dirty Hippy shot a 60!!!!!!!!

Go MJ!

MJ is off to a hoTT start. sure would love the Schwebb post a nice score as well.

Is this the official position of the PDGA?

No. This is...

Please be patient as we work with new technology. These advances in our sport come from the dedication of our members. We are most grateful for your membership. With your continued support each year, we will keep our sport moving forward. Thank you!

Great recovery though. Five birds and an eagle to get back under par.

Get a couple more Matty.

Another two birds and MattO sits at -3. Great recovery bud.

Matt Orum 3 4 9 3 5 3 2 4 3 2 3 4 5 2 4 3 3 3 65 -3


No bogey strokes after that 9.

It's the first day using brand new technology and one would expect there to be a few bugs to work out. All the testing in the world may not prepare you for several thousand people trying to connect at once.

I swear: disc golfers must be one of the most impatient, unrealistic, cynical, and unappreciative groups of people I have ever come across in my 36 years on this planet. If you're so unhappy with the PDGA, then please don't renew next year.
People always exaggerate stuff like this. Disc golfers are just as impatient. Just as unrealistic. Just as cynical. Just as unappreciative... as EVERY OTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET. Seriously, humanity in every walk of life is full of ****. Disc golfers aren't unique or special in any particular way.

For people that'll argue the other side of the coin: We're also just as generous, as willing to give a bed or couch, as hospitable, and as... whatever... as any other group of people. There is nothing special about disc golfers, and nothing terribly horrible.


In other news: Keep tearing it up Tyler, Ziggy, and hope Daemon comes in hot over the rest of his round. Good luck to all the people lucky enough to be out there.


-Chris.

Great post Woj.

Looking at 6 hour rounds now...Yeti might be done by 9.

Hole 4 is playing great. Hole 10 is playing well too. Great changes to the course.

Hole 8 sets up perfectly for a deuce run after a good drive. You want to clear the log, so you keep it at least chain high, probably throwing understable or sidearm. 2 eagles already, I anticipate a couple more before the week is over.

is anybody getting todo cast, or am i doing something wrong

is anybody getting todo cast, or am i doing something wrong

Mine's been down for the past half hour or so. No amount of refreshing has helped.

is anybody getting todo cast, or am i doing something wrong
Todocast ended at 5:00 p.m. your time. How you been old man? Hope all is well....Manny

No. This is...

Please be patient as we work with new technology. These advances in our sport come from the dedication of our members. We are most grateful for your membership. With your continued support each year, we will keep our sport moving forward. Thank you!

Very well said, Addie. You go girl!.....Manny

is anybody getting todo cast, or am i doing something wrong

It's down right now. I think they are having some technical problems. I know i saw more cameras out there than just 17 and 18. .

Todocast ended at 5:00 p.m. your time. How you been old man? Hope all is well....Manny

Duesler said on air it was going until the last putt today.

What happened to Dave Greenwell? 9's on the last 7 holes. DNF?

What happened to Dave Greenwell? 9's on the last 7 holes. DNF?

The announcers said he had to withdraw because he was unable to move his neck from side to side. He was sitting at Even when he withdrew.

Yeah Yeti!! Do it for love.

Idk but Schwebby and Yeti's scores are looking HOT! And Feldburg's two eagles just jumped him up hyoooge in the standings! Can't wait to get down there tomorrow!

Totally enjoyed watching today. kl

If you're so unhappy with the PDGA, then please don't renew next year.

Nice. Way to be a positive force for the PDGA. Not sure asking anyone who has any problem with anything to not renew. Is that your new standard line? Hopefully nobody is confusing this with the official PDGA position.

We also appreciate that you have so kindly gathered all the complaints in one easy to read post. Great job. Could someone please moderate this? I think this is unneccessary and antagonistic.

BTW, thanks for the streaming broadcast. While the live play picture was not the best, it's a good start. I liked the interviews and stuff, but maybe we can find someone a bit more personable than duesler, though him and maceman are at least very knowledgable. keep up the good work

You know who would probably make a good announcer? Craig Gangloff.

Can you view today's round as a tape delay?

Go Get'em Miles

I played with Dave Greenwell. He couldnt even move his head side to side, but almost took home the $10K with a near ace on 3.

I started follwoing Feldberg and Phil's group on 8. At the time Phil was 4 under and Feldberg was -1. When I left on hole 13 Dave was 7- and Phil was 6-.

Perfect day for golf. Some folks might be sad to learn that they may have played hole 12 wrong. If you tee off OB you have the option to re-tee or go to the drop zone. When this issue came up while follwoing Phil and Dave some folks indicated that early morning players that threw OB played there 3rd shot where they went OB. This looks like it will entail a 2 stroke penalty for some. It sucks that one of the alleged is currently in the top five.

Let's just see how it turns out(As the World goes around)


Game is on and just watching. This is good stuff.

Peace

I have only one minor quibble with the site doing the online broadcase, and it is a very minor quibble to be taken up with todocast and not the PDGA: Their embedded video software (I think they used flash, and not an embedded version of an actual video player) would not stay full-screen when you tried to do anything else. This kinda hurts those few of us lucky enough to have an s-vid connecting up with a television.

It would have been badass to be watching this full screen on my TV while I was browsing the web. :) Not a complaint, just a quibble. Overall: very awesome! What little I caught at the end was fantastically well done.

Actually I thought of one other minor thought: is there any way to give the 'boys in the booth' control over which camera is being aired? Or put the people making this decision in the same room as them so that they can direct it? Multiple times I noticed them being caught mid-sentence talking about one group on, say, 18, as it cut to guys on 17. Giving them the ability to control that would really smooth out the broadcast.

I hope things keep running smoothly, and thanks much for a very cool new feature this year.

Thanks for deleting my post.


Let'e go TD...

First, they need to kick Mace off of the broadcast. He's the most boring person I've ever heard in my life. I don't think his face was even moving. I say replace him with Billy Crump. Second, I want to give props to all my Georgia boys. Phil Arthur -7(smoking hoTT), Rand and Brad Hammock -3 (very nice), and Chim Chim -2 (very modest). Keep it up boys and kick Dollar and Kev in the rear to get them started. You guys are making us all very proud.

P.S. I watched the broadcast for 3 1/2 straight hours today, with no interruptions. From 1:00-4:30. The only constructive criticism I have is that I would like to see more than just holes 1 and 17. I'm ready for some 888 action.

I think I had my Tod Cast on too late and missed it, but registered and will try tomorrow. Is that 2 Carolina dudes on the top. Way to go Schwebb and MJ

yes way to go schwebby keep it up

you guys check out the top 5 hole by hole.. pretty crazy should be an interesting weekend..

I for one really liked the coverage today. I was trying to think of what it would be like if I was trying to speak in front of a camera for a national broadcast! I would be a nervous wreck! I think everyone on camera did a great job! Can't wait for tomorrow!

Hopefully nobody is confusing this with the official PDGA position.


I think everyone was confused until you came out and cleared that up. Cheers.

Way to go Yeti ! Patience, patience,.... those long rounds shouldn't be a problem for a guy who plays the texas courses. Bring it back to Wimberley!

Also,... Good job Schwebby! proud of ya! keep it up!

big ups to local Monday Qualifier Henry Childres... eagle'd 888 yesterday!!!

distance qualifiers was fun/exciting as well... for a while it looked like Avery wasn't going to make the finals.

Who's in the final? Is Manabu Kajiyama going to make a Worlds/USDGC sweep?

What a great move in the right direction. I really enjoyed being able to see live coverage. I want to congratulate all involved in pulling off such a great IPcast!!!

Love the interviews
Love having the guys getting interviewed do a little comentating
Love the drive/approach cutaway shots on hole 1
Hated that roll that Stevie got (double roller down the hill...definite tourney roll).
Loved seeing the fear on peoples faces when putting on 18 :)


There are some other things I'd love to see, but I bet you guys already know what they are so I won't even mention them.

Defending champion Garrett Gurthie nearly threw it a Texas mile during a Wednesday distance qualify session that blew away the scores from last year.
The 19-year-old, of Gainesville, Fla., chunked a handful of Innova Pro Destroyers over 600 feet. His best was recorded at 654, which was nearly 150 feet further than the throw that won it for him last year against Avery Jenkins. Jenkins, always a contender in the long throw, squeaked by and tied for sixth.
The top six of all who attempted at the Winthrop golf course moved on to compete in finals Thursday at a time and location that will be later determined.
Others who made the cut include: Robbie Bratten at 615, Matt Orum at 609, Coda Hatfield at 600, Dion Arlyn at 594, and Avery Jenkins and Jeremy Koling were tied at 582.
Gurthie said his drive style and run-up changes little from his normal heaves except for an extra hop before he releases. He said others my try to do a 360- degree type hurl release, but that�s never worked for him. Gurthie, who has been playing since age 3, uses new light weight Pro Destroyers, which he said are easier to control than beat up discs

654!!! That's sick. Congrats to all the qualifiers. It looks like Double G might clear the lake and road this year during the showcase.

Does anybody have a link to the live scoring for Round 2. The one from yesterday is pulling up the 2008 round 2.

It's the first day using brand new technology and one would expect there to be a few bugs to work out. All the testing in the world may not prepare you for several thousand people trying to connect at once.

I swear: disc golfers must be one of the most impatient, unrealistic, cynical, and unappreciative groups of people I have ever come across in my 36 years on this planet. If you're so unhappy with the PDGA, then please don't renew next year.

you are an inspiration to the entire organization.

Defending champion Garrett Gurthie nearly threw it a Texas mile during a Wednesday distance qualify session that blew away the scores from last year.
The 19-year-old, of Gainesville, Fla., chunked a handful of Innova Pro Destroyers over 600 feet. His best was recorded at 654, which was nearly 150 feet further than the throw that won it for him last year against Avery Jenkins. Jenkins, always a contender in the long throw, squeaked by and tied for sixth.
The top six of all who attempted at the Winthrop golf course moved on to compete in finals Thursday at a time and location that will be later determined.
Others who made the cut include: Robbie Bratten at 615, Matt Orum at 609, Coda Hatfield at 600, Dion Arlyn at 594, and Avery Jenkins and Jeremy Koling were tied at 582.
Gurthie said his drive style and run-up changes little from his normal heaves except for an extra hop before he releases. He said others my try to do a 360- degree type hurl release, but that�s never worked for him. Gurthie, who has been playing since age 3, uses new light weight Pro Destroyers, which he said are easier to control than beat up discs

this pretty much sums it up but the exciting interesting part was after Avery threw he was somewhere around 5th or 6th w/ some bombers still to go. it looked near certain that he wouldn't be in the finals w/ Big Jerm, Manabu, Nikko, Henry Childres, Brinster and some other known big arms still to come through. As you know Jerm did end up tying him and he made it.

richard click on overall then scroll down and you will see some of the scores from today

Thanks.

What's the weather looking like today? I heard that rain will be threatening the weekend, so today might be moving day for a lot of the players. I can't wait for the live action to get cranked up again.

Here's a video clip I took yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG5JQiDP2v4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG5JQiDP2v4)

nice, chuck. more please. played like an antiquated instructional video. i loved it.

Can't take much time for fancy production. I'll try to knock a few more out if I get more good clips.

thanks Chuck

I think that it is great that there are tons of pictures on the USDGC website (links to pix on left side of main page), but for the life of me, I can't bring up any detail on them. I mean, I click on DSC_XXXX in Flicker, and select "detail", and I don't get anything.

Am I doing something wrong, or is there no explanation with each picture. I would really like to know who the people are and/or what hole is being shown.

Pls help me.

I think that it is great that there are tons of pictures on the USDGC website (links to pix on left side of main page), but for the life of me, I can't bring up any detail on them. I mean, I click on DSC_XXXX in Flicker, and select "detail", and I don't get anything.

Am I doing something wrong, or is there no explanation with each picture. I would really like to know who the people are and/or what hole is being shown.

Pls help me. Pretty sure your just gonna get the pic and no details, that would take awhile.

http://discgolfunited.com/leaderboard/round.cfm?thisLayout=YES&round=2

rd two is corrected and live

Looks like someone is getting their monies worth...

James MacInnes 7 8 7 8 9 7 7 8 8 8 8 9 94 48

Pretty sure your just gonna get the pic and no details, that would take awhile.

When one downloads pix, in general, is there not an option to rename the file name for each pic, or add a description? I know it would take longer to do, but it would increase the value added to each pic.

Trying to get to the live video stream and can't get past the CC nag. I was watching fine yesterday. Wish I hadn't closed that window.

go to your email inbox and go to the broadcast from the link in the email you got when you registered.

James MacInnes 7 8 7 8 9 7 7 8 8 8 8 9 9 48

A Quad bogey on every hole. I guess notice has been delivered and we are all unique.

we are live

James MacInnes 7 8 7 8 9 7 7 8 8 8 8 9 9 48

A Quad bogey on every hole. I guess notice has been delivered and we are all unique.

He must have gotten hurt, and dnf...

otherwise, that would be a hell of a trip to get to SC from Canada to sleep too late!

Trying to get to the live video stream and can't get past the CC nag. I was watching fine yesterday. Wish I hadn't closed that window.

just fill it a fictional cc number (16 digits) and you can check it also...

All I'm getting from Todo is highlights of previous tournies and interviews. Is anyone watching live action?

OK...nevermind, just part of the show.

No offense to the Mayor of Rock Hill, but did they have to show this vanilla interview instead of KC teeing off?

if you were watching the stream yesterday and are having problems this afternoon, go to your browser history and click on the live.todocast link to the feed. should load fine. either way, you aren't missing much if it's not on. just deusler talking. these interviews should be shown when their isn't live action to cover. if you watched the golf you'd be more familiar with the players, doctor jr.

Don't hit the OK button to Multiple Users message.

apparently, the wind changes the complexion of hole three quite a bit.

those interviews with the mayor and tourism bureau were AWESOME. Makes me feel great about being a part of this sport. Great to hear from those guys.

Am I the only one that just lost volume?

It was just me. Refreshed.

i can't see how someone could not enjoy mace's commentary, but to each their own. the guy is a veritable wealth of disc golf knowledge. a discipedia if you will.

the broadcast is still kinky, but even with the kinks, just spectacular.


thanks all. i just donated.

i can't see how someone could not enjoy mace's commentary, but to each their own. the guy is a veritable wealth of disc golf knowledge. a discipedia if you will.

the broadcast is still kinky, but even with the kinks, just spectacular.


thanks all. i just donated.

where are the looking at when they say this or that guy said ....on twitter? but where?

You may be the only person to ever describe Brian Mace as kinky here on the PDGA Boards.

where are the looking at when they say this or that guy said ....on twitter? but where?

i'm pretty sure they are receiving comments sent from the 'to the moderator' box in the player.

tell em to read this thread. mine is jammed with a multiple users pop up box.

I belive they were reading dgcoursereview.com forums if it was the "stop thinking out loud" comment

intense tribute! I had it hard....
I will miss Tim.

Just a beautiful tribute. What a great and kind man, you are missed deeply. Tim, thank you for inspiring and allowing our spirits to soar freely. Many blessing to your family. Your fan, des.

anthon is serious thru twelve along with lotsa other dudes going low today.

Josh Anthon with a -12? That is sick!

with 6 to go anything can happen trust me

Miss you Ski. I know there is a great round going on right now with Ed, Chief, Father Dave and yourself. Send me some pics in my dreams.

Thanks for everything.

I'm going to make sure we give you a nice FYT with our FYD to Dave @ Waterloooooo this year!

This is great. For those that have towork, we get towatch the USDG. Good job to all

This is great. For those that have towork, we get towatch the USDG. Good job to all


The bomb! Joe Ro comentating(sp). Nothing better. He does it better than the commentators! Have a awesome round tomorrow JR!

The live feed is the best I have ever seen it. It is LIVE!

Peace,

RonSTL

Enjoyed listening to Billy and Mace and others and a shout out to the Twisted1. If your game wasn't going so good, I'd say you need more air time.

It looks beautiful, almost made me want to throw a disc again.

Keep up the good work everyone. I've been showing off the great sport a minute or two at a time to several people at the office.

By the time lead card got to 17, it was DEAD calm... Felberg still layed up off the tee. Talk about sticking to a game plan!

P.S. I watched the broadcast for 3 1/2 straight hours today, with no interruptions. From 1:00-4:30. The only constructive criticism I have is that I would like to see more than just holes 1 and 17. I'm ready for some 888 action.

Richard, the challenge with live coverage of "888" is the lake. The cameras are connected to the live (IPTV) truck over a hard wired cable. The cable can not be run through the water and the logistics of running the cables around such a large body of water are....well....challenging. I do not blame you for wanting to see it! It is impressive to watch.

I would like to say thank you to all the people who are appreciating this live IPTV coverage. It is a DAUNTING task. I am not trying to speak for Dr. John Duesler , the PDGA or any of the other companies involved with providing this IPTV broadcast, but, I do have to say as a member of the professional film community that this live feed is IMPRESSIVE! It may not yet look like what we are accustomed to seeing (Tiger Woods on CBS), but this is truly groundbreaking for our sport.

Thank You!

Rob Engle
16963 Films
Team Jenkins - The First Family Of Disc Golf
(PROUD USDGC IPTV cameraman)

Enjoyed listening to Billy and Mace and others and a shout out to the Twisted1. If your game wasn't going so good, I'd say you need more air time.

It looks beautiful, almost made me want to throw a disc again.

Keep up the good work everyone. I've been showing off the great sport a minute or two at a time to several people at the office.

I totally agree, but it was nice to give Billy and Mace a break.

Still is the best I have seen on the net from any tourny!
This is still a dream even being an old man.

Peace

I forgot, HUGE thank you to The Vibram Open who provided the first live feed I ever watched. That was so exciting!

Richard, the challenge with live coverage of "888" is the lake. The cameras are connected to the live (IPTV) truck over a hard wired cable. The cable can not be run through the water and the logistics of running the cables around such a large body of water are....well....challenging. I do not blame you for wanting to see it! It is impressive to watch.

I would like to say thank you to all the people who are appreciating this live IPTV coverage. It is a DAUNTING task. I am not trying to speak for Dr. John Duesler , the PDGA or any of the other company involved with providing this IPTV broadcast, but, I do have to say as a member of the professional film community that this live feed is IMPRESSIVE! It may not yet look like what we are accustomed to seeing (Tiger Woods on CBS), but this is truly groundbreaking for our sport.

Thank You!

Rob Engle
16963 Films
Team Jenkins - The First Family Of Disc Golf
(PROUD USDGC IPTV cameraman)


agreed, rob. good interview, from you, *** well. came off great. look forward to the jenkins film and your next projects. been a fan since you had a youtube account.

and they say disc golf doesn't have a following. listen to them now.

I wish they had re-runs at night for us that work all day. Now I would pay for that.

cenwhoreship

I wish they had re-runs at night for us that work all day. Now I would pay for that.

broadcasts are to be archived. enjoy and donate or do not renew your membership ever again. that is per the official pdga spokesman, not me.

I totally agree, but it was nice to give Billy and Mace a break.

Still is the best I have seen on the net from any tourny!
This is still a dream even being an old man.

Peace

preach, you old fart.

agreed, rob. good interview, from you, *** well. came off great. look forward to the jenkins film and your next projects. been a fan since you had a youtube account.

and they say disc golf doesn't have a following. listen to them now.

Greg, thank you :-)

Check this article out:
http://www.usdgc.com/10/08/we%E2%80%99re-live-historic-dg-coverage-begins

Great article about the IPTV broadcast and what it took to make it happen.

All I have to say is, GO PHIL!!!! Your ATL homies are patiently waiting for that championship. I plan on dropping out of a local A-Tier on Saturday if Phil is still on the lead card. I will be there supporting my brotha!!!

question, lotsa dudes wanna know, when they say this will be 'archived for viewing' does that mean i will be an archived relic before i see it, or can i please watch a recap the same way it went down tonight?


we don't need no stinkin edits. i will just fast fwd thru dr johns spots.

please lemme know. thanks, dudes.

All I have to say is, GO PHIL!!!! Your ATL homies are patiently waiting for that championship. I plan on dropping out of a local A-Tier on Saturday if Phil is still on the lead card. I will be there supporting my brotha!!!

richard, if you like golf, but are a critical fan, the pdga would like to officially discourage you from renewing your membership next year. cheers. phil is amazing.


a favorite story of mine is phil arthur putting to a portable target, in the lobby of the world's host hotel, from three stories up, off the observation rails, saying 'bucket.' people in the area didnt even play golf and said they would come back to see that, but who wouldn't?


setting up to be a great weekend. too many top notch people in the top twenty.

shoot... top fifty.


dg is sick. a monkey could market this.

clearly, i'm not the only one following along. so, shouts out to todd harrell for his outstanding write ups.


son, you're hired.

3 Tied At Lead For Putting Crown

puttingBy Todd Harrell

25 putts in a row is the score to beat after three players achieved that Wednesday during the first round of the putting competition.

Ross Brandt, of St. Paul, Minn., J.D. Ramirez, of Sachse, Texas, and Paul Ulibarri, of Showlow, Ariz., all qualified.

Qualifying took place near the players’ reception area where a 10-rung rope ladder was laid out in front of a basket. Players were asked to sink as many putts without missing from each rung of the ladder, up and back down the rungs and possibly back up again depending how hot they were putting. The disc golfers could retry as many times as they wanted.

Many could hit 10 in a row, but more than that was rare. Some competitors spent the better part of an hour trying to crack the record.

Qualification will continue until Saturday when finals will take place at the clubhouse.



By Todd Harrell

Some 4,800 Internet viewers tuned in to disc golf history as they watched a live production, for the first time, at Wednesday’s first round of the USDGC.

Registered viewers got the full treatment of commentaries, graphics, player interviews, and more. Interestingly, the project, one more tool in disc golf cracking the big time, is just as much of a quest of sorts as it is a landmark event.

Early on the PDGA tried to get sponsors and underwriters for such an endeavor, but few were willing to make the commitment without seeing evidence of a finished product, which was nonexistent.
“It’s the first time we’ve ever done this,” said executive producer John Duesler Jr.

Essentially, the broadcast has come about to provide that evidence so potential sponsors for future tourney broadcasts will have a working example of live disc golf coverage and the many hungry fans that tune in.

In the spring, the PDGA formed a partnership with Eplanet Media, a web video production company, and Todocast, which provides satellite link for web streaming. In order to get the project up and running, the team made a $40,000 to $50,000 investment to fund the project.

After a hectic day one, Duesler said it was an overall success. Though, with any quest there was bound to be some bumps in the road. Preparation for the enormous task had to be done in a flash since the team’s production crew, EPlanet, had to travel cross-country from San Jose, Calif., from a previous gig earlier in the week. The whole crew only had one day to get the entire 25-man crew orientated to the USDGC production.

Not surprisingly, on the first day of coverage, things were a bit hectic. Duesler admitted there were kinks to iron out. He said the biggest learning curve was the broadcast’s first hour when it became very evident just how many pieces there were to produce a live picture for a mass audience. Probably the biggest problem came when the web streaming server, which was receiving intense attention from viewers, had to be switched to a better setting. He said that was a relatively quick fix, and the rest of the day ran smoother.
“It will improve greatly today,” he said.

In all, the team produced five hours of coverage on Wednesday. However, they limited the coverage to only a handful of holes from the Winthrop Gold course this year. Monday viewers saw live action from holes 1, 3, 17, and 18. Duesler said the team didn’t want to take on live video of the entire course because it would have been too complex and expensive for this year’s effort. Besides, he said his team wanted to tackle a project size that they could ensure high quality.

Still, the existing coverage is packed with goodies including: commentaries, player interviews, pre-taped features, commercials, viewer interaction features, and other segments. Plus, they have some delayed video from the non-live holes that will be woven into the broadcast.

Granted, the production may not rival CBS’s coverage of the PGA Masters, but it is quite a step beyond years past when the main coverage options were post tournament highlights or listening to web radio coverage. Even web cams, which helped lay the foundation for live tourney coverage, could only go so far, said Duesler, who is also the PDGA’s director of communications.
“This has elevated us to the next level,” he said.

In the past, Duesler said the PDGA has tried to pay to put segments of disc golf video on mainstream television networks, however such efforts can be extremely expensive. Even then the video was often relegated to early morning hours.

However, that might not be a problem with the way TV is gravitating to the Internet, especially sports coverage.
“We’re almost leapfrogging TV,” Duesler said.

After Wednesday, Duesler said he was pleased they were meeting their goal of reaching 5,000 to 10,000 viewers and, for the fact that the production team was nearing their quest to obtain live coverage proof so future tourneys may continue to be live.



bravo.

I watched some of the live coverage Thursday. I'm still trying to figure out if it was better than watching dots for the lead group. It was disc golf live, and that's certainly better than disc golf dead. If they follow the lead group for the last round, that will be something much better than today's show.

richard, if you like golf, but are a critical fan, the pdga would like to officially discourage you from renewing your membership next year.

I must have missed something along the way. I'm not sure what you mean by this. I love disc golf and I do support the PDGA. You really don't have a choice if you plan on playing more than 10 tournaments in a year. There's always going to be a governing body. The sport would grow a lot faster if people would accept/recognize that and just get on board. There will always be things that could go a little better, but from what I see it's as close as you can get for now.

PDGA, keep up the good work, but continue to grow. That's all we ask for. I'll be a member for as long as I'm able to throw these little plastic thingies around.

P.S. Go Phil, bring the Championship to the A-Town.

I got to watch a couple of hours yesterday afternoon. I thought the interviews, commentary, and even the commercials were good. Rather enjoyable.

So, for me the icing was nice. But, I was hoping for more cake. Names, scores, play-by-play, and the like. More about the game being played at the moment.

I ended up trying to supplement so I could figure out what was happening. Dots was some help, but it seemed to be pretty jumpy on my computer. I tried DGRus chat, but not much on there about USDGC. The leader board caught my interest -- they referred to it a couple of times (and even put the camera on it once), but I never figured out if it was online or not.

Gave some thought to printing out the tee time list so I could match the names with the groups being filmed. It didn't seem as though the commentators had done that either. Names were sketchy.

I think if I had the tee time list, could get DOTS to quit jumping around, could find the leader board online, and could find a pretty good chat room, then this afternoon will be much better. I'd better get busy.

Ron Pittman

DOTs were a little jumpy for me too. All in all I think the work they have done is tremendous. The difference from Day1 to Day2 is totally visible. This is a work in progress and one that should be perfected for next year. Can't wait to see some live action from courses out in Cali and AZ. Hopefully they get enough monetary support to be able to follow the National Tour. We can dream, can't we.

In case I forgot to mention........GO PHIL, we're tuned in here in the A-Town. Represent!!

Come-on Phil, we know you got it in you to kick some Feldberg booty! Fariways and greens baby!!!

One of the problems for the announcers knowing who is on the screen is that they are shooting outdoors in bright light and see the players on a small monitor. Even if they knew all of their names perfectly, they can't always see well enough to identify them onscreen even though it's somewhat shielded. Something to consider for future improvements.

foot fault? i know the disc is not being released in the photo, but i have to suspect that left foot would still be planted.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2499/3994367524_b74ebb0a8d_s.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/3994367524/in/set-72157622543638342/

nevermind... the next pic looks like he got it up

keep up the good work.. deleting previous post..

come on I dont even travel and I am also looking at a monitor and can tell who the players are better then the announcers

now take your monitor (or a laptop)... go outside with it... sit down and set the monitor ~5 feet in front of you. Try telling us who all of the players are without squinting, leaning forward and still trying to look presentable as if thousands of people are watching you. I have a feeling they're doing a better job than most of us could!

like someone else said... i'm sure there are some things they need to improve on ... like being able to view their monitors or get info a different way.

I'd suggest using a CDN provider for at least the usdgc site if not the video streaming in the future. Akamai, Mirror Image or Limelight would buffer this limited site traffic so your poor rackspace boxes can breath at the origin. 4,800 connections is great start. Hope you one day have to deal with 4,800 new connections a second.

Cut them some slack guys, this is new and pretty darn cool for all of you to be able to watch. I can remember back just a few years and everyone was just watching the live updates every six holes. The USDGC is taking it to another level as they usually do and everyone is still freaking out.

I am pretty sure that none of these guys are professional announcers and do this maybe once a year. Be happy with what we have and thanks to all who are making it happen. As Chuck said, they are sitting in a tent with the monitor in front of them about five feet back. They are not sitting in a booth like the PGA guys with million dollar equiptment.

Wish you all were here to see it live! :-)

Is it legal to practice hole 17 during the event? On camera there was a person emptying his bag a minute ago. And didn't putt out.

nevermind

Looks like the weather finally rolled in. It'll be interesting to see how the top players change their game.

Unfortunately, it probably means we won't be able to see much anymore. Hole 17's camera is on already and it's daaarrrkkk.

You also gotta wonder if the flag guy is pacing in front of the camera on purpose. :) He looks like he needs a chair and an umbrella.

Here's photo set from yesterday with more info in each photo title to tell who's in it and/or what hole: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157622424933339/

why is coverage starting at 1:15 now is it due to weather ?? also is there no audio..looks pretty muddy

USDGC...brought to you by...TWISTED FLYER!!!

Go Joe!!!

aha. awesome.

aha. awesome.

where can you leave a comment which will be read?

hmmm. i would suggest calling john deusler direct.

hmmm. i would suggest calling john deusler direct.

got a number?

he may be sharing a room with brian j graham. i am not sure. they have been known to prior.

this non commercial break is ridiculous. how can they beg for donations when they're off the air?

can't seem to get feed going, i had it then it just stopped. Rain issues? Just me? DO i need to not renew for asking questions?

they're live. what is your issue?


with the feed, i mean, of course.

not sure. it was on then froze. then i was playing the archived one from yesterday, so i know it was working. closed the window and now can't open the site. BTW, i am in a datacenter with over 100mb connection.

also suggestion, there should be a method for donating via paypal. i don't like to spread my credit card number around. Hopefully they will still allow me to renew with all these issues i'm having!

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