twoputtok
Jul 02 2008, 12:08 PM
I should be sueing him for disclosure of confidential information. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
sschumacher
Jul 02 2008, 12:13 PM
Like I said. A cup of coffee bought you two years but what happens in Vegas doesn't always stay in Vegas. Especially when you SNITCH on your buddy to the PDGA. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
You're just mad because someone "cracked the whip" on you and put you back in your cage. :D
I'm willing to negotiate a peace treaty if you want. ;)
twoputtok
Jul 02 2008, 12:33 PM
so you find it necessary to try and snitch me out to my wife on various subjects, unknown to you, she already knew. :oYou consider the PDGA your wife?
You sir are now the BIGGEST hippocrite on this board.
Shall we remind you of what you have been preaching against? Get a haircut, I'd bet we would see another face on the backside of your head. :o
You are a
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/56707016.jpg
That better?
Birdie
Jul 02 2008, 12:37 PM
Chicken pop?
Oooooh...burn.
sschumacher
Jul 02 2008, 01:43 PM
so you find it necessary to try and snitch me out to my wife on various subjects.
Wow!!!...You called me "Sir"!!!! :)
How do you know she didn't beat it out of me? :confused:
I didn't "snitch" anything and you're not being truthful on that statement either. You weren't even there. :(
Birdie
Jul 02 2008, 04:40 PM
Hey, take this trash off of my mini thread or I will...
...well..., get mad and stew about it...
sschumacher
Jul 02 2008, 04:57 PM
Ok, Lil'Red. It's over now.
sschumacher
Jul 08 2008, 03:34 PM
So????.....What kind of freebies are included for tonight? :confused:
DoughDuff
Jul 08 2008, 03:38 PM
Why are you playin?
sschumacher
Jul 08 2008, 03:45 PM
I don't know. What's in it for me???? :cool:
Free entry? :)
Membership discount? :cool:
Free beer? :)
DoughDuff
Jul 08 2008, 03:58 PM
How about this...I pay your entry and bring the beer. We get on the same card...you carry the beer. :DIf I beat you you give me free entry thursday...
twoputtok
Jul 08 2008, 04:12 PM
I think Furdog has found a new sandbox playmate. :D
sschumacher
Jul 08 2008, 04:18 PM
Maybe so but only because I like to bury my crap in the sand. ;)
Why do I have to carry the beer???? :confused:
DoughDuff
Jul 08 2008, 04:22 PM
Hell thats all I'm really after :D
DoughDuff
Jul 08 2008, 04:37 PM
Twoputt if your feelin left out...you can carry the beer for us :)
twoputtok
Jul 08 2008, 04:40 PM
Yea and you can carry my
http://img2.tradeget.com/renbingguang/VVB78KQY1din_heavy_hex_nuts.jpg
Too. :o
sschumacher
Jul 08 2008, 05:03 PM
Looks like you have managed to carry those below your chin all your life so why are you looking for help now? :confused:
twoputtok
Jul 08 2008, 05:21 PM
You talk a whole lot for some one that never does anything. :o
Hey Duff, just plan on carrying your own beer, he doesn't have the balls to show up. :o
sschumacher
Jul 08 2008, 05:49 PM
There is no incentive for me to show up. :p
Why come out there when I can be jamming with the band? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
twoputtok
Jul 09 2008, 09:21 AM
You on a skin flute does not equal a band. :o
sschumacher
Jul 09 2008, 09:31 AM
Marie has a violin now so someone has to listen to her practice,.....no matter how painfull it may be. :( ;)....The cat already ran away. :confused:
On top of that I need to be ready for the next appearance of "Twisted Big Dog". Since you have no musical skills and work in the "service" industry you're welcome to be the band fluffer. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif....Maybe you'll get another trip to the USDGC like last time. :o
DoughDuff
Jul 09 2008, 02:08 PM
How many DG'ers were out last night, and where are the scores? :confused:
sschumacher
Jul 09 2008, 02:18 PM
Well I saw your name in the paper for 2nd in pro master so I assume there were only 2 in the division. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
twoputtok
Jul 09 2008, 04:19 PM
Maybe you'll get another trip to the USDGC like last time. :o
already turned it down. Can't take the time off from work. :p
sschumacher
Jul 09 2008, 04:42 PM
Yeah I imagine you and Muffy get a lot of business on 11th street when the circus comes to town. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
DoughDuff
Jul 09 2008, 05:17 PM
I had a good round last night--you werent there :p
twoputtok
Jul 09 2008, 05:22 PM
Any round is a good round when he is not there. :o:o:o
Birdie
Jul 15 2008, 10:09 AM
Mini tonight!
sschumacher
Jul 15 2008, 10:46 AM
Freebies? :)
Pennekamp
Jul 15 2008, 02:58 PM
... :(
1 more week of Tuesday night shows, then I'll be able to play the Dovillio mini again. I can't wait!!
m_conners
Jul 15 2008, 03:59 PM
Last week I blew up on the back 9...not sure I can take many more of these atomic bombs going off in the middle of my rounds.
Pennekamp
Jul 15 2008, 04:19 PM
Sounds like the last time I played out there in the mini.
Double circle 7's hurt the scorecard a lot
m_conners
Jul 15 2008, 04:23 PM
Yeah a 7 anyway you get it will hurt the scorecard...what peeves me is when I 3-putt four out of my last 6 holes.
Pennekamp
Jul 15 2008, 04:30 PM
Thats right, I heard about that. Not sure if I'd rather have a bulk of strokes all at once or 1-2 extra per hole for 4 holes. Either way sucks I guess
Martin_Norris
Jul 15 2008, 04:39 PM
Looking into a new style of putter?
m_conners
Jul 15 2008, 04:47 PM
Looking into a new style of putter?
I need to re-think my putting game that's fo sho...martin do you have any troubleshooting tips for me?
slackglass
Jul 15 2008, 06:46 PM
im feeling pretty lucky
i think i may just need to come out and play tonight
Birdie
Jul 15 2008, 11:56 PM
Alright...
Continued thanks to those to attend....
Here is last weeks results...
Pro
Kyle Wilkes 49
Adam Hunt 50
Chris Wagle 50
Gregory Winsworth II 52
Coda Hatfield 53
Mike Conners 53
Dan Bougher 54
Josh Crowl 56
Dave Wise 57
Dave Nicholson 58
Matt Steward 60
Jesse Crew 66
Pro Master
Rob Davis 56
Doug Duff 58
Brad Zimmerman 64
Wayne Gregory 68
Intermediate
Willy Spoon 58
Logan Moody 59
Doc Geiger 59
Orville Wagner 60
Travis Koehring 60
Drew Custer 60
Harlen Unruh 60
Richard Why 60
Casey Fletcher 61
Greg Walten 61
Corey Leemhuis 63
Bryan Hinds 64
Novice
Robert Wilson 63
Matthew Treat 65
Dixon Harrison 67
John Davis 67
Chad Samsel 69
Eric Jones 86
The CTP winners were Chris Wagle (hole 5), Wayne Forest (hole 16...Ram?)
And this week...
Pro
Coda Hatfiled 47
Kyle Wilkes 49
Scotty Wilkinson 52
Andrew Treat 52
Ken Ward 52
Mike Conners 53
Ben Powell 53
Josh Crowl 54
Adam Hunt 55
Dave Nicholson 56
Chris Wagle 57
Dave Wise 57
Scott Sable 58
Paul Oldfather 59
Pro Masters
James Diel 61
Rob Davis 62
Brad Zimmerman 64
Mike Treat 68
Intermediate
Drew Custer 53
Orville Wagner 56
Harlen Unruh 57
Logan Moody 58
Willy Spoon 59
Casey Fletcher 60
Jay Slack 61
Corey Leemhuis 62
Travis Koehring 63
Novice
Ray Webb 65
Dixon Harrison 66
Matthew Treat 67
Sean Brockmann 68
Clay ??? 69
John Davis 73
CTP winner was Dave Wise on hole #16 paying 26 dollars.
Thanks again everyone!
sschumacher
Jul 16 2008, 09:12 AM
**** Wise. Did you win that $26 on the first hole and then just blow off the rest of the round? I don't know if I've ever shot that bad out there.
Were there joggers around? ;)
twoputtok
Jul 16 2008, 09:22 AM
I shot a 57 for my third week in a row. :(
But the CTP was nice. :D
sschumacher
Jul 16 2008, 09:25 AM
Well what is it about Opie that he can't get your score right? :confused:
twoputtok
Jul 16 2008, 09:49 AM
I don't care what they list my score being, as long as I get paid. :D
bapmaster
Jul 16 2008, 09:55 AM
That's pretty much the way I feel about it...which is why I really hope you show up again next week... :eek:
twoputtok
Jul 16 2008, 10:42 AM
As long as I'm getting paid more than I pay you then I'm good with it too. :D
Birdie
Jul 16 2008, 11:45 AM
Furdog, stay on your own thread where some may be confused enough to listen to you...
Don't make me ignore you too...
sschumacher
Jul 16 2008, 12:01 PM
Somebody has to point out your descrepancies.
You guys do it to me all the time. :p
And why weren't you at the admin meeting the other night? :confused:
twoputtok
Jul 16 2008, 12:10 PM
I forsee an ignor feature being utilized. :o
sschumacher
Jul 16 2008, 12:15 PM
That's ok. It's not like I'm trying to send him a PM or anything. I think I'll put him on ignor in case he trys to send me one. ;)
I'm just wondering if that was an excused absence because I don't think he had a note from his parents or a doctor. :D
Birdie
Jul 16 2008, 12:18 PM
From what I heard I would have had to kick your drunk a s s out of there.
I am serious.
The admin meeting is not a soapbox or a place for you to vent your Boston Legal wet dreams.
Show up straight or slightly elevated and we will be good.
Birdie
Jul 16 2008, 12:22 PM
I bet you like Danny better don't you? :o
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sschumacher
Jul 16 2008, 12:31 PM
From what I heard I would have had to kick your drunk a s s out of there.
I am serious.
The admin meeting is not a soapbox or a place for you to vent your Boston Legal wet dreams.
Show up straight or slightly elevated and we will be good.
What are you talking about? We were out of there early.
But you're right. Maybe a breathalizer and pee test should be required in order to get in. I showed up to pay for the discs but the guy that has the receipt I gave him didn't. :confused:...I hope I don't die before the next meeting or you guys might be out of some cash. :(
BTW, I speak for the masses that can't attend so I'll bring my soapbox whenever I please. ;)
Birdie
Jul 16 2008, 12:37 PM
I am not talking about being out early or not, I am talking about you not having enough respect for the rest of the group to act properly. :)
And that is what pi-sses me off. :D
So don't hold anything over my head. :cool:
sschumacher
Jul 16 2008, 12:48 PM
Well I don't understand. :(.... If you weren't there then your I must have disrespected your dad for him to tell you that. :confused:
There doesn't seem to be any written club edicate so I don't know why you are bringing up one now. :(
I used to hear about big knock down drag out fights before you, your dad, or I ever showed up but the meetings seem peacefull now.
What is your definition of "Acting Properly" because I'm not going to wrestle with people and grab nipples and butt if that's what you're talking about. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
twoputtok
Jul 16 2008, 12:57 PM
Read this (http://www.robertsrules.com/) , first, then you might understand. :o
Birdie
Jul 16 2008, 12:58 PM
Dad told me the course of the meeting, I talked to others that told me what I suspected.
All I know is, I won't miss another one for some time.
I need to be there to keep any "spectators" in order and see that they do not overstep their limits.
Funny, I can't think of anyone else whose attendance has disrupted the meeting.
Any if you don't know what I am talking about then just wait till you see me again. Because we need to talk about one of your most favorite topics.
But I am going to pull a Fox news and keep the most damaging portion of this Jesse Jackson scandal off the air. ;)
Birdie
Jul 16 2008, 01:03 PM
So tell me, where, in your old age and perversion, have you tastes lingered?
Old Shatner or young Shatner?
http://i.a.cnn.net/money/galleries/2007/moneymag/0702/gallery.pop_icons.moneymag/images/william_shatner_rev_2.jpg
I want to know, because I pegged you as an old Shatner lover.
You want that experience, right? :o
sschumacher
Jul 16 2008, 02:25 PM
Well I understand why you don't want any "spectators" showing up. John Green would probably eat your lunch.
Whatever your dad told you he sure didn't tell me. Maybe he just can't type that fast. Maybe you guys should tape the meetings? I'll loan you my tape recorder. :)
I thought I did good the other night but it's evident that some people are only willing to listen to new business as long as it doesn't interfer with getting home in time to watch "Dancing with the Stars". ;)
How do you know I was drunk? :confused:
How do you know I didn't just smoke a big blunt in the car before I showed up? Would that be acceptable to you?
How do you know I wasn't overdosing on Prozac at the time?
I imagine that now days probably %50 of the population has some type of dependancy whether it be legal or illegal. In DG I would say probably %75.
I know people do illegal things at CS so should I call the cops on them next year because they are not "acting properly"?
Like I said, as a TD I was there to pay for the discs I took out of the TDSA inventory but the guy who held the receipt I signed was not there and I'm not going to pay until he produces it. I told you guys that at the last meeting. Had I known he wasn't going to be there then I would have stayed home and played music with Lil'Moose. :cool:
I didn't try to raise my hand to vote on anything so don't freak out Perry Mason. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
If you and your dad have a problem with me then come to a common agreement and send me a PM or give me a call.
Just remember, if I run for a admin spot this year and get elected you will have to deal with me at every meeting. :o
twoputtok
Jul 16 2008, 02:58 PM
Just remember, if I run for a admin spot this year and get elected you will have to deal with me at every meeting. :o
Riiiiiiight.
http://maven.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/hell-frozen-over.jpg
Birdie
Jul 16 2008, 03:00 PM
Well I understand why you don't want any "spectators" showing up. John Green would probably eat your lunch.
<font color="blue"> I didn't say I didn't want spectators. I just want productive ones that can take an evening out of their "I am dead set on drinking myself to death on vodka" program.</font>
Whatever your dad told you he sure didn't tell me. Maybe he just can't type that fast. Maybe you guys should tape the meetings? I'll loan you my tape recorder. :)
<font color="blue">First off, let me acknowledge a good idea. Taping the meetings. I can do that myself, and need I remind you, you cannot even record on your tape deck. Dad is not the problem, he is a big boy and has (obviously) been handling himself since before I was around. If he had a problem he would have said something.</font>
I thought I did good the other night but it's evident that some people are only willing to listen to new business as long as it doesn't interfer with getting home in time to watch "Dancing with the Stars". ;)
How do you know I was drunk? :confused:
How do you know I didn't just smoke a big blunt in the car before I showed up? Would that be acceptable to you?
<font color="blue">Yeah it would be better, remember, stoners built disc golf. Drunks made Nascar. Maybe you should try that, there is a lot less walking. You might be able to watch an entire race if you don't pass out. :o</font>
How do you know I wasn't overdosing on Prozac at the time?
I imagine that now days probably %50 of the population has some type of dependancy whether it be legal or illegal. In DG I would say probably %75.
I know people do illegal things at CS so should I call the cops on them next year because they are not "acting properly"?
Like I said, as a TD I was there to pay for the discs I took out of the TDSA inventory but the guy who held the receipt I signed was not there and I'm not going to pay until he produces it. I told you guys that at the last meeting. Had I known he wasn't going to be there then I would have stayed home and played music with Lil'Moose. :cool:
<font color="blue">Exactly, if there wasn't anything in it for you, then you are out. That is the kind of poor attitude I am talking about. It is always all about Scott. I go to the Admin meetings because I want to be able to do the most with what we've got, and I want to be able to hear the discussion and make my conclusions based on that. </font>
I didn't try to raise my hand to vote on anything so don't freak out Perry Mason. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
If you and your dad have a problem with me then come to a common agreement and send me a PM or give me a call.
Just remember, if I run for a admin spot this year and get elected you will have to deal with me at every meeting. :o
Ha ha, you run for an admin spot, that is laughable. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
twoputtok
Jul 16 2008, 03:06 PM
Post deleted by Twoputt
twoputtok
Jul 16 2008, 03:34 PM
Where did FurDog go?
http://center.fio.ru/method/RESOURCES/FILIPPOVMA/ENGLISH/07/TALKING_AMERICAN/pic3.gif
sschumacher
Jul 16 2008, 03:37 PM
I don't drink vodka anymore Little Red. I vaporize it.
I stayed for the whole meeting the other night Opie and since I couldn't pay the club due to non-attendance I donated $50 to Joe's one day tourney on Aug. 2nd.
Now I guess I should have thought just about myself and left but since I had been drinking, what do you know,......I stayed and I gave money away. :confused:
m_conners
Jul 16 2008, 03:45 PM
I don't drink vodka anymore Little Red. I vaporize it.
LOL!!!!
sschumacher
Jul 16 2008, 04:01 PM
Yeah MC. It's a new thing. You pour vodka into your AC unit and as it travels through the coils it vaporizes and is released into your vehicle or home totally clean and unscented. Some of the benifits is there is no smell or open container and instead of taking your woman to a bar,.....all you have to do is drive her around the block a couple of times and she's ready. :)
mtreat
Jul 16 2008, 04:40 PM
Somedays it's just to painful to read this board :(
It's like a bad car wreck, I don't want to look but for some reason I do....
m_conners
Jul 16 2008, 04:41 PM
Another day in "How the TDSA Turns", starring Furdog, TwoPutt and Red :Dthe soap opera continues to spiral.
twoputtok
Jul 16 2008, 04:48 PM
Hey leave me out of this one. :mad:
sschumacher
Jul 16 2008, 05:23 PM
This is not a soap opera MC. It�s a �cliffhanger�. It is kind of like Mad magazine except it�s Spy vs Spy vs Spy with Twoputt being the gray spy driving the Avalanche around stirring things up. If it�s not against him he usually involves himself by jumping on Opie�s side since they have shared �moments� together on the course. Opie is practicing his soon to be lawyer skills by argueing his case but from what Marie tells me, it probably has something to do with all those female legal assistants he works with telling him what to do.
He is a good TD and TDSA rep but IMO he thinks the admin meeting is a courtroom where as I look at it as a house of representatives and I am a lobbyist. :)
I don�t know for sure but based on his �Stoner� vs �Drunks� comment I think he is ultimate leaning toward defending home grown organizations in the agricultural field. :cool:
I believe I could have made a good lawyer but at his age I had already chosen the "stoner" route which led to no money, which led to music, which led to very little money, which led to 23 years at a real job, which led to DG, which led to beer and hard alcohol. So in reality, the way I am today is all Bud Johnsons fault. ;)
Opie, from now on you can refer to me as Otis and I'll refer to you as Barney Fiff. :cool:
Birdie
Jul 16 2008, 07:51 PM
I don't drink vodka anymore Little Red. I vaporize it.
LOL!!!!
That is the funniest thing you have said in a long time Furdog.
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I only attack your alcoholism openly and at will because I hope you will cut back and stick with us for a little longer man.
sschumacher
Jul 16 2008, 09:55 PM
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bravo
Jul 17 2008, 12:39 AM
dont burn out furdog there are plenty more people who appreciate you than you think, I know I'm one of them.
sincerly brad
twoputtok
Jul 17 2008, 09:21 AM
taydrl
Jul 17 2008, 10:16 AM
I wish I had Twoputt's superhuman ability to find just the right picture at just the right time. I can't even find two pennies to post a picture of but, here's my two cents worth anyhow. One of the things I have always respected about this group is that everyone is able to vent their frustrations, openly, honestly and no matter how ugly it gets, everybody tries to end the issue on a positive note. I too have had my share of problems. In the past few years I have been taken over by the IRS, sued by the Justice Department, nearly bankrupted because of political retaliation, had leases terminated maliciously to inflict intentional harm, I could go on and on. My problems got so bad I was finally able to speak to a client of mine who is an old Harvard Law grad and he hooked me up with the Inspector General's office and we are still dealing with all of that. My point is, we have all got problems and frustrations, but the reason Deb and I are doing what we are for this community is because of the fellowship and comraderie we experience every time we are around you guys. It is just like one big family and we count ourselves fortunate to have found you guys. But, just like family, we sometimes fuss but to always seek a positive ending is admirable. Now, the reason for my two cents worth. In my opinion the TDSA is one of, if not THE best DG club in America. Having said that, I am reminded that people all over the country are reading our posts. I would like to encourage everyone to think about that sometimes when our frustrations are all too apparent on the message board. :)
twoputtok
Jul 17 2008, 10:29 AM
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/0906_tv_01_drphil1.jpg :D:D:D:D:D:D
taydrl
Jul 17 2008, 10:33 AM
Dave, you need to run a seminar on how to find this stuff. I'd pay to attend. :D
taydrl
Jul 17 2008, 10:34 AM
By the way, thanks for helping me get a new avatar, I like the new one much better. :cool:
twoputtok
Jul 17 2008, 10:51 AM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b289/djtan/wiseLOGO.jpg
feelfroggie8
Jul 17 2008, 11:22 AM
I don't exactly know what you guys are talking about but enough of the complaining !!yeah furdog rambled a bit but it was funny and we got everything accomplished that we needed to and we were out by 8:15ish. opie you were not there and I don't know what you heard but it really was not that bad..I mean furdog and marie are kind enough to put there time in and there money and do good things for TDSA and discgolf in general.JUST MY 2 CENTS
zooc
Jul 17 2008, 01:45 PM
Somedays it's just to painful to read this board :(
It's like a bad car wreck, I don't want to look but for some reason I do....
:(I agree, when I read some of the crap)usually furdog), I think"I am a lifer, where is my money being spent?", just like the congress with a 9% approval rating, furdog, you are lower :eek: :)now do the audit and send him to OKC. :Dsorry Joe..
Hindsight
Jul 18 2008, 05:10 PM
Lil Treat and Furdog. Do we need to get you two your own mma cage match so we can settle this once and for all. I dont know who to laugh at more, The Aggie or the booser.
Just my not so humble opinion.
Martin_Norris
Jul 18 2008, 05:21 PM
Gee, maybe they could have a jam off, with a vote by the people present @ $1.00 a vote with all the money going to the Chandler Park course expansion fund! :cool:
Birdie
Jul 22 2008, 01:40 PM
Yeah, well...anyway....
Tonight at Dovillio will be a case of 6 point Bud Light and a 12 pack of 6 point Sam Adams (Summer Sampler) Bottles.
I will have them ice cold at sign ups...1 dollar for a can, 2 for a bottle.
I might try and get some Gatorade in the future....:D
But it is illegal beer night at Dovillio....show up early to ensure your brew...there aren't that many so THEY WILL GO QUICK!
Just a way to beat the heat with Treat!!!
sschumacher
Jul 22 2008, 01:50 PM
That should be FREE beer buddy.
Otherwise you need a liquor license to SELL it.
Do I need to call the ATF on you and tell them you're selling beer to minors? :o/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Birdie
Jul 22 2008, 01:52 PM
No minors get beer.
I will check if I have to.
And I am making a sign that releases me from liability of said cooler, if said life ending accident should happen thereafter said mini....
And it is not so much of an "sale" as an added bonus of mini entry if you happen to pay an extra dollar or two...
sschumacher
Jul 22 2008, 02:17 PM
Well ok Barney. Use your lawyer language and re-word that to say "donate" instead of "pay".
FREE = Better.
DONATION = Legally under the radar.
Don't forget to tell them to police their empties.
Now what about adding a free mully? :)
kwilkes
Jul 24 2008, 12:47 PM
Are the scores up for last weeks mini? Andrew would you mind sending me a PM with your cell #? I have a question for you. Thanks, and keep up the good work with the biggest mini in Tulsa!
Birdie
Jul 24 2008, 01:04 PM
Here you go Wilkes...sometimes the real info gets lost in all the B.S. around here.
As you will read the post it will be 7-8-08 results then 7-15-08...
I will post this weeks directly.... :D
918-857-9347......public on the TDSA site I think....
Alright...
Continued thanks to those to attend....
Here is last weeks results...
Pro
Kyle Wilkes 49
Adam Hunt 50
Chris Wagle 50
Gregory Winsworth II 52
Coda Hatfield 53
Mike Conners 53
Dan Bougher 54
Josh Crowl 56
Dave Wise 57
Dave Nicholson 58
Matt Steward 60
Jesse Crew 66
Pro Master
Rob Davis 56
Doug Duff 58
Brad Zimmerman 64
Wayne Gregory 68
Intermediate
Willy Spoon 58
Logan Moody 59
Doc Geiger 59
Orville Wagner 60
Travis Koehring 60
Drew Custer 60
Harlen Unruh 60
Richard Why 60
Casey Fletcher 61
Greg Walten 61
Corey Leemhuis 63
Bryan Hinds 64
Novice
Robert Wilson 63
Matthew Treat 65
Dixon Harrison 67
John Davis 67
Chad Samsel 69
Eric Jones 86
The CTP winners were Chris Wagle (hole 5), Wayne Forest (hole 16...Ram?)
And this week...
Pro
Coda Hatfiled 47
Kyle Wilkes 49
Scotty Wilkinson 52
Andrew Treat 52
Ken Ward 52
Mike Conners 53
Ben Powell 53
Josh Crowl 54
Adam Hunt 55
Dave Nicholson 56
Chris Wagle 57
Dave Wise 57
Scott Sable 58
Paul Oldfather 59
Pro Masters
James Diel 61
Rob Davis 62
Brad Zimmerman 64
Mike Treat 68
Intermediate
Drew Custer 53
Orville Wagner 56
Harlen Unruh 57
Logan Moody 58
Willy Spoon 59
Casey Fletcher 60
Jay Slack 61
Corey Leemhuis 62
Travis Koehring 63
Novice
Ray Webb 65
Dixon Harrison 66
Matthew Treat 67
Sean Brockmann 68
Clay ??? 69
John Davis 73
CTP winner was Dave Wise on hole #16 paying 26 dollars.
Thanks again everyone!
Birdie
Jul 24 2008, 01:25 PM
And here is 7-22-08...
Again, thanks to everyone for coming, and sorry about making that big 5-some Melissa...I know it was uncomfortable out there at 9 o'clock. :eek:
My bad, but it won't happen again!
As for the results....
PRO
Kyle Wilkes 47
Chris Wagle 49
Mike Connors 51
Dave Nicholson 52
Coda Hatfield 52
Josh Crowl 53
Dave Pennekamp 53
Scotty Wilkinson 54
Dan Bougher 55
Corey Briley 55
Junio Hinshaw 56
Taylor Sears 56
Ben Powell 57
Marq Lewis 58
Travis Koehring 58
Jesse Crew 60
Drew Custer 64
PRO WOMEN
Shanna Swanson 67
Melissa Townsend 68
Teresa Duff 71
PRO MASTERS
Dave Wise 49
Rob Davis 58
Brad Zimmerman 61
James Diel 66
INTERMEDIATE
Orville Wagner 56
Jason Herzog 59
Harlen Unruh 59
"Doc" Geiger 60
Dave Townsend 60
Willy Spoon 61
Corey Leemhuis 61
Logan Moody 61
Greg Walten 62
Luke Pilkington 65
Casey Fletcher 67
Jake Dunn 79
NOVICE
Ray Webb 60
Dixon Harrison 67
The CTP was won by Dan Bougher and it paid $28.
Current Ace Pot... 162.
Thanks for the motivation Wilkes. ;)
Birdie
Jul 30 2008, 12:02 PM
WOW!
Thanks to all who attended the first annual TnT-Fest on 7-29-08....
.....or I guess it was a real tournament...I had 49 players.
More than my first Stillwater Classic.
And signups started 30 minutes before hand.
Thanks again to those who continue to come out and have a good time...
Those people are....
PRO
Kyle Wilkes 49
Dan Bougher 50
Josh Crowl 51
Bill Pennington 51
Dave Pennekamp 51
Chris Wagle 51
Coda Hatfield 52
Chris Hicks 52
Ben Powell 52
Scotty Wilkinson 52
Dave Wise 52
Devan Owens 53
Mike Connors 53
James Roubidoux 53
Kyle Razmus 53
Sammy Nielson 53
Andrew Treat 54
Dave Nicholson 55
Craig Henson 55
Adam Hunt 55
Taylor Sears 55
Dale Patterson 57
Travis Koehring 58
Drew Custer 58
Corey Briley 58
Scott Sable 59
Harry Hinshaw 60
Johnny Thompson 66
Rob Wilson 68
PRO MASTER
Sean Young 53
James Diel 54
Brad HOI 56
Brad Zimmerman 58
"Doc" Geurin 64
INTERMEDIATE
Harlen Unruh 55
Richard Why 56
Matt Razmus 58
Jarrod Hinshaw 59
Logan Moody 59
Willy Spoon 62
Two Guns Coberley 65
NOVICE
Ray Webb 63
Mike Smith 64
Alvin West 65
Rick Brawles 71
Jason Thompson 79
Dave Wise graciously donated a sweet Pizza Coupon book, which was won by Brad Zimmerman on whole #15.
The regular CTP was taken by Scott Sable on hole 16 and that paid 33.
We had some Gatorade and water available, looks like people easily prefer the gatorade but I think it is still good to have that water there too...
Now if only I can get more beer...
But I don't really want to bring many more people out...
I heard that the record for a single mini is actually around 100. Which was the $500 riverside ace....who won that by the way?
sschumacher
Jul 30 2008, 12:11 PM
WoW!!!....Those are really nice numbers Andrew. :cool:
I don't think I want that many at my mini's because that would almost be like work.
Birdie
Jul 30 2008, 12:29 PM
I am working on some ways to politely discourage people from attending...but it isn't working....
Birdie
Aug 06 2008, 12:58 AM
Results from 8-5-08
PRO WOMEN
Melissa Townsend 63
Teresa Duff 68
Shannon Swanson 74
PRO OPEN
Devan Owens 48
Coda Hatfield 48
Sammy Nielson 49
Kyle Wilkes 49
Josh Crowl 50
Chris Wagle 52
Justin Bougher 52
Dave Nicholson 54
Johnny Thompson 54
Dan Bougher 54
Ben Powell 55
Logan Moody 56
Jerry Stacey 56
Dale Patterson 56
Kenny Ward 57
Travis Koehring 58
Paul Dorries 58
Harry Hinshaw JR 59
PRO MASTERS
Brad Zimmerman 58
Rob Davis 58
HOI 58
Mike Treat 65
INTERMEDIATE
Dave Townsend 54
Matt Razmus 55
Richard Why 57
Orville Wagoner 59
Willie Spoon 59
Harlyn Unruh 59
Gumby Barton 61
Corey Leemhus 61
Robert Hawley 62
Snakeskin 65
John Tillman 66
Dough Duff 69
Aaron Warburton 76
NOVICE
Ray Webb 63
Two Guns Coberly 69
Dixon Harrison 69
Rick Brawls 69
Pops Hinshaw 70
The CTP winner was Chris Wagle.
Good Luck to Coda at Worlds!
And would you look at that...only a few short weeks ago The Dude hit the ace pot on hole number eight and already we are built back up.
The seed is full at $100...
And the Ace pot has slowly risen to $203 /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :D
For those of you who don't know, now that the seed is full, all ace pot money will go straight into the ace pot instead of being split with the seed.
So look for the ace pot to start growing in leaps and bounds!
And as always, thanks to everyone who came out and played!
bravo
Aug 06 2008, 02:47 PM
my truck was parked by ones t pad when i left last night there was a tripod chair on my hood that didnt belong to me.
jgeurin
Aug 07 2008, 12:53 PM
43 players at a mini! Everyone is really turning out for Dovillio. Andrew, you must be doing something right.
wforest
Aug 07 2008, 01:47 PM
43 players at a mini! Everyone is really turning out for Dovillio. Andrew, you must be doing something right.
.
.
... TnT rocks ...
DoughDuff
Aug 07 2008, 01:53 PM
It's mine Brad...well actually it was left by my truck at the glide. I figure eventually someone will claim it, get mad at me thinkin I stole it and I can say that Furdog gave it to me :D
OAKIEDONKEY
Aug 12 2008, 02:18 PM
BETTER PLAY FROM THE FIELD TONIGHT....I'M CALLING THAT SOME ONE WILL ACE ON THE SQUARE TONIGHT...HOLE 15 OR 16.....8 DOWN WINS!
Birdie
Aug 12 2008, 02:49 PM
Rainy day...stay home, don't play...
sschumacher
Aug 12 2008, 02:51 PM
On the contrary, rain has ended, day is cool, let's get 80 or so out to Dovillio to win that ace pot!!!!! :)
Birdie
Aug 12 2008, 02:56 PM
What ace pot?
No ace pot here...
Awww sucks. I'm caught.
Well, I am going to go ahead and let those who want to start a little early go ahead and do that. Because it is getting dark sooner.
I am also going to be a lot stricter on the 6 o'clock signup.
We have got to keep these things orderly and swift. ;)
twoputtok
Aug 12 2008, 03:19 PM
You need to, otherwise it'll be like playing on the mountain. :o
mtreat
Aug 12 2008, 03:35 PM
SNAP :)
sschumacher
Aug 12 2008, 03:43 PM
Well if you pro's would do a little more to earn your keep maybe you'd get a little more respect.
You want better start times, then start tipping the TD with some extra cash. My mountain is like a fine restaurant where reservations are required and you need to tip the waiter to get a good table.
Otherwise you can wait in line at the drive thru at Jack'n the Box like everyone else and maybe if you're lucky you'll get the happy meal that you can't get at home. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
I'm going to propose a 50 cent pro "moocher" fee at the next admin meeting. :o:D
Pennekamp
Aug 12 2008, 03:52 PM
I'll be there in 30 minutes.....is that too early?? :D
Birdie
Aug 13 2008, 12:57 AM
Alright...well...
Another fun evening.
A big thanks to my dad for helping out this evening which gave me a chance to warm up a little....
....this was a very special treat for me, it is the first time I have run and event and won it as well...
PRO
Andrew Treat 51
Devan Owens 52
Dave Nicholson 52
Dan Bougher 52
Billy Lund 52
Chris Wagle 53
Ken Ward 54
Kyle Wilkes 54
Travis Koehring 55
Bill Pennington 57
Orville Wagner 57
Dave Wise 57 <--With Pear Juice on his fingers.
Logan Moody 58
Mike Connors 59
Johnny Thompson 60
Travis Koehring 64
Pro Grand Masters
Dave Frazier 59
Dave King 60
Bob Vort�? 64
PRO MASTER
Sean Young 53
Brad HOI 54
James Diel 56
Randy Wilson 60
Pops Hinshaw 63
Rob Davis 65
Doug Duff 68
INTERMEDIATE
John Barton 58
Richard Why 58
Corey Leemhuis 58
Brandon Peak 59
Jarrod Hinshaw 60
Drew Custer 60
Bryan Hinds 60
Casey Fletcher 61
John Tillman 61
Arnold Snakskin III 61
Willy Spoon 62
Wade Largent 63
Harlen Unruh 66
NOVICE
Mike "Two Guns" Coberly 59
Ray Webb 62
Armstrong 65
John Davis 67
Dixon Harrison 69
Parker Williams 69
Nathan Von Aschen 77
Rick Brawles 87
The CTP was won by Travis Koehring and it paid $35...
I didn't want to have to do this...cause it was a nice little mini at 48 people...but I am afraid I have to.........
The Dovillio Ace Pot has reached $246!!!!!!
In the words of Big Dave.....COME GET SOME! :D
pdorries
Aug 13 2008, 01:49 AM
congrats on the win treat!! and congrats to travis with the 35 dollar CTP CHA CHING!!!!!
nice turnout, wish i coulda been there :( that is a good size pro field
OAKIEDONKEY
Aug 13 2008, 01:50 AM
IT WAS GOOD TO SEE RICHARD MITCHEL OUT AND AROUND...WALKING AND TALKING....THANK GOD HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY GUM!
Birdie
Aug 13 2008, 02:16 AM
Oh yeah....
Mr. Dan Bougher also hit scored a 2 on the infamous hole one!!
It was a field ace but it is still the only 2 I have ever heard of...
Nice shot Dan!
feelfroggie8
Aug 13 2008, 09:26 AM
so which pair did 2putt have on his fingers was it furdog and red
twoputtok
Aug 13 2008, 10:15 AM
I was eating a pair from the tree on hole 12, when we got to hole 13 I was about 40 out and I threw a turbo putt, they asked why I did that and I told them "I have pair juice on my putting hand." :D As you can tell I wasn't too worried about my score. :p
Sideball
Aug 13 2008, 11:52 AM
Nice round last night Treatster! Wish I could have been there. Let's get a big Hunter crew out tonight.
Pennekamp
Aug 13 2008, 12:16 PM
Nice job Andrew!! But since when is a warm-up necessary?? ;) :D
Birdie
Aug 13 2008, 12:19 PM
Man...Coda must have loads of self-esteem...
I think I would be a problem if I won consistently...
As it is now, I seem to win just enough to keep me hooked.
I am really regretting not playing Worlds this year. :(
Pennekamp
Aug 13 2008, 12:27 PM
You and me both...you and me both /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Birdie
Aug 13 2008, 12:33 PM
Which part of my post was that in response to? ;)
evandmckee
Aug 13 2008, 12:40 PM
I was eating a pair from the tree on hole 12, when we got to hole 13 I was about 40 out and I threw a turbo putt, they asked why I did that and I told them "I have pair juice on my putting hand." :D As you can tell I wasn't too worried about my score. :p
dude, I hope that wasn't the tree FurDog was telling me about :confused:
http://www.30sleeps.com/images/dog-pissing.jpg
twoputtok
Aug 13 2008, 12:47 PM
He couldn't pizz that high with viagra. :D
Pennekamp
Aug 13 2008, 12:48 PM
Mainly playing worlds. It was on my "list" at the beginning of the year. Funny how things change... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
twoputtok
Aug 13 2008, 12:50 PM
Well re-adjust for next year. KC is a lot closer to home than Kalamazoo. ;)
Pennekamp
Aug 13 2008, 12:52 PM
Its already on the radar. :D
Birdie
Aug 13 2008, 12:53 PM
I know, and I have tried to play it every year and I have still never played it.
Next year.
sschumacher
Aug 13 2008, 12:54 PM
He couldn't pizz that high with viagra. :D
That's right. You're leg is high enough. :p
twoputtok
Aug 13 2008, 12:59 PM
Even Dogs know enough to not pizz on their master. :o:D
DoughDuff
Aug 13 2008, 08:22 PM
Twoputt the dog whisperer. :D
Birdie
Aug 20 2008, 12:36 AM
Alright...thanks everyone.
COURSE DOVILLIO
PRO
Coda Hatfield 46
Chris Wagle 49
Dave Nicolson 51
Josh Crowl 51
Paul Dorries 52
Johnny Thompson 53
Devan Owens 54
Dan Bougher 54
Jerry Stacey 55
Logan Moody 56
Ken Ward 56
Travis Koehring 56
Sean Young 56
Orville Wagner 57
Jesse Crew 57
Dave Townsend 58
Billy Lund 67 <-yeah 67
PRO MASTER
James Diel 58
Brad Zimmerman 65
INTERMEDIATE
Richard Why 54
Harlen Unruh 55
D.J. Childers 57
Jeremy Geiger 58
Corey Leemhuis 60
Michael Garner 61
Daniel Chee 62
Drew Custer 63
Snake 66
Willy Spoon 69
NOVICE
Mike "Two Guns" Coberly 60
Parker Williams 66
Kyle K. 66
Rick Brawles 67
Bobby Emson 69
Lee Graves 70
Alec Montgomery 71
Dixon Harrison 71
Coda Hatfield won the CTP and it paid $30.
The Ace Pot is now $283.
I think it won't get hit until it reaches 599.......
:eek:
Birdie
Aug 26 2008, 11:58 PM
So far my prediction is holding true...the ace pot was not hit.
The ace pot stands at $313. And I still think it won't be hit until it is maxed out at $599.
Also this is probably the point to give fair warning that starting in September (the next Dovillio mini) Pro prices will be increased from the regular $7 for everything to $12 for everything.
As for the play....
PRO
Coda Hatfield 44
Devan Owens 48
Dale Patterson 48
Sam Neilson 50
Matt Steward 51
Chris Wagle 52
Josh Crowl 52
Orville Wagner 53
Bill Pennington 53
Adam Hunt 54
Scott Sable 55
James Roubidoux 56
Ken Ward 56
Justin Bougher 56
Johnny Thompson 57
Dan Bougher 58
Jesse Crew 60
Logan Moody 61
Taylor Sears 62
PRO MASTERS
Dave Wise 46
Sean Young 56
James Diel 57
Brad Zimmerman 62
INTERMEDIATE
Richard Why 54
Corey Leemhuis 58
Brandon Peak 59
Will Boumgarten 66
Snake Skinn 66
NOVICE
Parker Williams 66
Joey Neely 81
Thanks for coming everyone!
And nice shooting Coda!
pdorries
Aug 27 2008, 01:06 AM
wow. 44. :-X
sschumacher
Aug 27 2008, 09:55 AM
Why does Dave Wise play pro at Chandler but requires age protection everywhere else?
He shot 46 that would have got him a second place finish over 17 people in Open and paid $19.
Instead he "chicken little's" down to master division for first place over 3 old guys for $13. :confused:
twoputtok
Aug 27 2008, 11:29 AM
The question is......why does FurDog never play anywhere but the ant hill? Claims to be a course pro?
Came to Dovillio with pleanty of time to play but went home instead?
Why did I play masters? Was sick since Friday, tried to play Sunday at McClure and shot a +17. :o I just wanted a relaxed evening with the old guys and a chance to practice before this weekend. Who knew I would shoot my best round ever at Dovillio? :o:D
I think even my son could play Chandler as a pro. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Name one other course where the women shoot in the 40's and can grab the ace pot? :confused:
sschumacher
Aug 27 2008, 12:37 PM
Dave, I guess it�s like you said. I�M JUST IN IT FOR THE MONEY!!!! That�s right and now that Pro entries are going up I will probably be making �MO-MONEY�!!!!! :cool::)
Your �poor pitiful me, I was sick� excuse does not fly. If you felt good enough to come out and play then you should have played �Open�. :o
Quit running away from the younglings unless you�re admitting that the only place you can hang with them is on my mountain. :eek:
And don�t bring your son into this because him playing DG might lead to him blowing off soccer which in turn means no scholarship and you might actually have to pay his college tuition if he decides not to pursue his life long dream as �Head Pickle Slicer� at Goldies.
And by the way,�.did you just insinuate that Teresa Duff is over 40? :confused:
She, like all women, looks 29 to me. :cool:
DoughDuff
Aug 27 2008, 01:10 PM
do we really want furdog playing our other courses
:eek: :eek: :eek:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k266/garyE500/new%20folder/Light-10163.jpg
twoputtok
Aug 27 2008, 01:13 PM
:D:D:D:D
sschumacher
Aug 27 2008, 01:49 PM
OK....Both of you guys are officially BANNED from Chandler. :p
Pennekamp
Aug 27 2008, 02:01 PM
Cmon Furdog, Is that the best you can do?? :cool:
sschumacher
Aug 27 2008, 02:13 PM
Well, I'll put "Fluffy Muffy" on probation because that guy actually comes out and helps.
Twoputt on the other hand really doesn't do anything. He can't spell worth crap to help with cards and expects to be paid first when he does win so he can leave and be home in time for his beddy by. He is really not worthy of playing Open at Chandler if he can't play "Open" at all the other courses during regular mini's.
I mean think about it. If you and him went to play a casual round at Dovillio it would be a straight up cash bet. But, you both go to Dovillio during a mini and he plays master while you have to play Open. :confused:
PDGA tournies I can understand but local mini's???
What is he afraid of???? :confused:....Young kids?.....He has already slam-dunked most of them already. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
He can compete in "Open" at any course in town but he hides behind the age thing when he wants to feel all fuzzy in side. :o
Pennekamp
Aug 27 2008, 02:25 PM
Thats more like it Furdog!! :D
twoputtok
Aug 27 2008, 02:29 PM
It doesn't matter what you think, you're not a club adninistrator, you're not a Pro, you're only a halfarsed Td of a pitch-n-putt course. :o
Do yourself a favor and look up the requirements to play Pro master, I do beleive I'm qualified and That was the division I played. Being a Master has great advantages, I can play Pro, Pro master or advanced, its my choice and of no concern to you on what my reasons were for playing Masters last night.
Now go grab yourself another hot cup of SHTFU and try to rattle someone's cage that actually gives a shiet about your opinion on disc golf. :o:o:o:p
I will patiently await your whining and biatching PM. :D
twoputtok
Aug 27 2008, 02:33 PM
Thats more like it Furdog!! :D
Don't antagonize old people, especially ones you ow money to. :o:D
sschumacher
Aug 27 2008, 02:40 PM
Yeah!!!!...The truth hurts doesn't it. :D
You do the same crap at Riverside also.
My facts over your fiction.
Man up or take a walk. :o:D
Don't let him intimidate you Penny. You know I'm right. The guy is 48 and is already looking for social security benefits from the local DG club as if we owe him something. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Pennekamp
Aug 27 2008, 02:48 PM
...ignore the peanut gallery
/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
sschumacher
Aug 27 2008, 02:53 PM
I try but "The Peanut" keeps showing up acting like he's got a leg to stand on. I don't consider what he's doing any different then the Ams bagging down to Rec at Chandler. :(
Pennekamp
Aug 27 2008, 03:07 PM
I was referring to me....Furdog
I'm just a spectator
twoputtok
Aug 27 2008, 03:53 PM
I try but "The Peanut" keeps showing up acting like he's got a leg to stand on. I don't consider what he's doing any different then the Ams bagging down to Rec at Chandler. :(
http://www.cathedralwindchimes.com/Whiner-.jpg
Its okay Furdog, it'll be all right, don't worry your little peabrain about it.
http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/08/Aug%2010%20Crying%20Child.jpg :o
twoputtok
Aug 27 2008, 04:00 PM
http://ammar.fuzedbulb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/im_rickjames_*****.jpg
twoputtok
Aug 27 2008, 04:02 PM
Even your dad said to quit crying. :D
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g128/bigfootmojo/Temp/crazy_old_man.jpg
sschumacher
Aug 27 2008, 04:18 PM
I was referring to me....Furdog
I'm just a spectator
I know Penny but Twoputt reminds me of a Jimmy Carter peanut only once you crack his shell there�s no nuts.
I guess his spin is that he�s a pro master in the PDGA and by playing open in minis from time to time, he is actually moving up which is good. The only thing is that he only does that on the local level. Always at Riverside and Chandler and occasionally at the longer courses. Even on those long courses I think his decision is based on whether his dog Rocco wakes up in the morning and sees it�s shadow or not. :(
So lets do the math....
Casual Round + large # of young players = DW �Mr. Open�?
Short course mini + large # of young players = DW �Mr. Open�?
Long course mini + large # of young players = DW �Mr. Excuse� Pro Master?
Granted DW is not the only one that does this but he of all people should know better. :confused:
It�s like he shows up and puts on a body rubber to protect himself from people he�s already had un-safe casual golf with. ;)
twoputtok
Aug 27 2008, 04:25 PM
http://www.bigdogs.com/images/products/family/t2612.jpg
sschumacher
Aug 27 2008, 04:54 PM
You must care because you keep posting useless rebutals against the truth I speak to hide and draw attention away from your guilt. I win, you lose. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
You're out dude. :(
If you show up at Chandler I'm calling the Ranger and telling him to come pick up BooBoo and take you back to the zoo.
And if you continue to stick around, I'm really going to punish you by sticking Muff on your card. :D
sschumacher
Aug 27 2008, 05:00 PM
Now for my next issue,......
I think the club deducting just basic membership or renewal at the time of an ace is not going to motivate anyone to become a member or renew.
I think it should be a minimum of 1/3 the total ace pot or $15 minimum.
So if the ace is $100 a non current member would only get $77. The rest goes back into the pot for next time. :)
Who's with me!!!!! :cool:
twoputtok
Aug 27 2008, 05:01 PM
I could put you back on ignor but I had to listen to you crying about it for two weeks.
Its more fun watching you trying to............
http://sugarmtnfarm.com/blog/uploaded_images/FlosTitMilkPreFarrow7195-765546.jpg
sschumacher
Aug 27 2008, 05:10 PM
I could put you back on ignor but I had to listen to you crying about it for two weeks.
Its more fun watching you trying to............
http://sugarmtnfarm.com/blog/uploaded_images/FlosTitMilkPreFarrow7195-765546.jpg
Just because your wife has to look at what you do to yourself at the office doesn't mean the rest of us should have to. :confused: :(
twoputtok
Aug 27 2008, 05:22 PM
Who's with me!!!!! :cool:
As usual, no one.........................
sschumacher
Aug 27 2008, 05:27 PM
Well my idea was better than your $100 lifetime membership idea. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
No wonder they kicked you out. :D
twoputtok
Aug 27 2008, 05:28 PM
Well that makes it all better doesn't it? :confused: :confused:
sschumacher
Aug 27 2008, 05:36 PM
You forget, most of my loyal followers are not PDGA members and therefore their voices of approval are silenced by the restrictive blanket of "Pay to Post".
The truth of it is, I don't think the club would really want an active membership of say, 500 or more because wouldn't you have to have a least 50% of those show up at the picnic and vote to have an official quoem and legal election?
Can you handle that question Dave or do I need to address that to "The Waynester". :confused:
twoputtok
Aug 27 2008, 05:42 PM
I'll give it a shot..... not sure about the percentage needed for a quarum under the current set of club by-laws. But I do know if it continued to present a problem, the by-laws could be changed in order to eliviate the problem.
As for your followers......................they may not follow you as far as you think. :o
http://philspector.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/lemmings.jpg
I think thats Duff in the back. :D
pdorries
Aug 27 2008, 11:46 PM
Now for my next issue,......
I think the club deducting just basic membership or renewal at the time of an ace is not going to motivate anyone to become a member or renew.
I think it should be a minimum of 1/3 the total ace pot or $15 minimum.
So if the ace is $100 a non current member would only get $77. The rest goes back into the pot for next time. :)
Who's with me!!!!! :cool:
Your math, Sir, is horrible (along with your idea).
I think membership should entail some benefits. Currently the only benefit is discount on plastic at minis, correct? Throw in a bag tag (not to mention actually collecting and redistributing bag tags at minis) and perhaps a special print tdsa members only mini marker or something and you might get more members.
If I somehow manage to get lucky enough to hit an ace, I would probably just become lifetime member then and there, but to force someone to give away a third of the pot to become a member is definitely a terrible idea
Birdie
Aug 28 2008, 01:47 AM
While we are talking about horrible and great ideas...
I, along with others I know, abstain from lifetime membership in order to give the club the added membership fees, which it can always use... :D
Birdie
Aug 28 2008, 01:49 AM
And come on guys, pull those gross pics...
sschumacher
Aug 28 2008, 10:42 AM
[Quote} Your math, Sir, is horrible (along with your idea).
I think membership should entail some benefits. Currently the only benefit is discount on plastic at minis, correct? Throw in a bag tag (not to mention actually collecting and redistributing bag tags at minis) and perhaps a special print tdsa members only mini marker or something and you might get more members.
If I somehow manage to get lucky enough to hit an ace, I would probably just become lifetime member then and there, but to force someone to give away a third of the pot to become a member is definitely a terrible idea
[/QUOTE]
Ok, my math on that one is horrible but you still would have benefitted with an extra $11. ;)
I think membership should probably include a bag tag or something.
As it is right now membership does basically only offer a $1 discount on discs and a vote at the picnic.
I on occasion have also offered special benefits like a free mulley or an extra CTP throw for members only at my minis which IMO is TD discretion.
Speaking of disc prices, I have been cashing out Champion plastic at $14. I believe Star $16, Champ $14, Pro $12, & DX 8$ offer a fair value across the board and helps the Am payout at minis move quicker. I realize though that the club flyer states that �candy�, champ included, should be cashed at $16 so I guess I might be undercutting some of the other TD�s although I�m not the only one selling Champ at $14. This is probably something that needs to be brought up at the next admin meeting and hopefully I won�t get kicked out for it. I believe Champ should be $14.
Getting back to club membership though I would ask why wouldn�t you want to be a current TDSA member?
Why do you prefer to stand on the outside and take advantage of what the club brings to town like Am Worlds, the OO, and the GTO?
Who do you think pays for and replaces a stolen basket 95% of the time?
I can see how non-members would not like my ace pot idea because it�s mostly non-members or non-current that show up when an ace pot at Chandler gets over $200. :(
At the same time I guess a lot of those non-members and non-currents are helping to build the ace pot so screw it.
Idea withdrawn. :p
Would you prefer the MMFMM ace pot system instead? :confused:
DoughDuff
Aug 28 2008, 10:56 AM
NO!
Birdie
Aug 28 2008, 11:02 AM
Would you prefer the MMFMM ace pot system instead? :confused:
What is that like?
sschumacher
Aug 28 2008, 11:07 AM
It's a conspiracy. ;)
I'm surprised you didn't know. :confused:
I'm sure Twoputt will show up and tell you about it. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Birdie
Aug 28 2008, 11:10 AM
I have a plan for membership.
It is three point.
1. Get some sweet bagtags.
2. Monthly raffle for a sweet prize. (Random draw on TDSA numbers)
3. Only TDSA members can bank payout at minis.
And maybe another point for good luck...
4. A "Members Only Weekend" at the Lodge or something.
I think if we start doing bagtags again, and actually have a bag tag tournament at the end of the year, in conjunction with some other perks, then people will not be dissatisfied.
But at the same time, how many of these people that we give free bagtags to are actually going to come and work at Blackhawk or at the Lodge?
Probably not many. But it is still the best way to go.
twoputtok
Aug 28 2008, 11:13 AM
http://1raindrop.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/25/schultz.jpg
I know nothing about that! :p
sschumacher
Aug 28 2008, 11:26 AM
Right.... :p
You know everything. Pull that big hunk of strutel out of you face and fess up. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
JDiel
Aug 28 2008, 11:31 AM
[Quote} What do you mean my math is horrible???.....I made it all the way through the third grade!!!!....$77 is approx 2/3 of $100. What kindergarten did you graduate from?
Uh Dog, last I checked 2/3 = 66+2/3...... So I think he is right, your math is horrible :o
twoputtok
Aug 28 2008, 11:35 AM
Not for the 3rd garde. :o
Actually pretty sad since he is an engineer.
Birdie
Aug 28 2008, 11:36 AM
That is why he needs those receipts so badly... :o
JDiel
Aug 28 2008, 11:38 AM
Depends on where you went to elementary school at I guess.
twoputtok
Aug 28 2008, 11:39 AM
No wonder he owes people money. :o
JDiel
Aug 28 2008, 11:41 AM
Actually pretty sad since he is an engineer.
Pretty scary isn't it
sschumacher
Aug 28 2008, 11:43 AM
I have a plan for membership.
It is three point.
1. Get some sweet bagtags.
<font color="red">Distribute them randomly amoungst the TD's so # 1 doesn't automatically go to some big arm or don't put any numbers on them at all. Then offer benefits or discounts in some way but make them show the tag to receive them. </font>
2. Monthly raffle for a sweet prize. (Random draw on TDSA numbers)
<font color="red">Nice idea but the winning member should be attending a mini to win so the TD doesn't have to hold it for months or track them down. Out of town members would have a hard time collecting though. </font>
3. Only TDSA members can bank payout at minis.
<font color="red">This forces the non-member guy who won $3 to either blow it off or come up with $5 for a disc if you don't have mini's to cash out. The TDSA needs new minis. I cash mine CS minis at $2, special dual mini's at $5 when I have them. Glow sticks at $1. </font>
And maybe another point for good luck...
4. A "Members Only Weekend" at the Lodge or something.
I think if we start doing bagtags again, and actually have a bag tag tournament at the end of the year, in conjunction with some other perks, then people will not be dissatisfied.
But at the same time, how many of these people that we give free bagtags to are actually going to come and work at Blackhawk or at the Lodge?
<font color="red">This would be welcome but shouldn't be a requirement. </font>
Probably not many. But it is still the best way to go.
twoputtok
Aug 28 2008, 11:45 AM
FurDog, give this one a try. :o:D
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/dumbarse.jpg
sschumacher
Aug 28 2008, 11:48 AM
Actually pretty sad since he is an engineer.
Pretty scary isn't it
All right, my bad. :(.....But if you have a problem with it then maybe you should stay out of the BOK when the roof caves in. ;)
Pennekamp
Aug 28 2008, 11:50 AM
I'm confused about something...
Treat, are you saying only members are going to come and work at the parks??
Maybe I misinterpreted, care to elaborate. (it was a late night so its possible I'm missing something here) :confused:
JDiel
Aug 28 2008, 12:04 PM
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All right, my bad. :(.....But if you have a problem with it then maybe you should stay out of the BOK when the roof caves in. ;)
[/QUOTE]
I'm not planning on going anywhere near that place, I hate going downtown
sschumacher
Aug 28 2008, 12:08 PM
I'm confused about something...
Treat, are you saying only members are going to come and work at the parks??
Maybe I misinterpreted, care to elaborate. (it was a late night so its possible I'm missing something here) :confused:
What????....Penny you're not a TDSA member????? :(
Quit being a sucubuss. I just sold you that disc with member discount so you owe me a dollar!!!!! :mad::D
twoputtok
Aug 28 2008, 12:12 PM
He doesn't owe you squat! :mad:
I bought that disc not him.
**** not only do your math skills SUCK, you have a severe case of CRS also. :o
twoputtok
Aug 28 2008, 12:14 PM
Come on Dog????????????? Get it together or step away from the keyboard. :o
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg225/ab17z/whatsup/37.jpg
sschumacher
Aug 28 2008, 12:15 PM
Yeah well then you owe me $2 then. Consider it a Pro tax for thinking everyone owes you something. :p
Pennekamp
Aug 28 2008, 12:19 PM
Technically you sold it to Wise. So, keep me out of that. (and yes, he has been paid)
And NO, I'm not a member...what should that matter??
I haven't ever given my opinions on membership before...especially on the board. Not sure if its the place to do that.
I'm not so sure you want my opinions anyway... :o:eek:
Pennekamp
Aug 28 2008, 12:34 PM
Would you prefer the MMFMM ace pot system instead? :confused:
What is that like?
You basically get whatever percentage of MMFMMs that you've been to. For example only----------I've been to maybe 5...out of (for easy math)100. So, I would get 5% of the ace pot. Now, I'm not a mathematician so those figures could be wrong.
Pennekamp
Aug 28 2008, 12:45 PM
What????....Penny you're not a TDSA member????? :(
Quit being a sucubuss. I just sold you that disc with member discount so you owe me a dollar!!!!! :mad::D
Don't leave now Furdog....Lets hear some babbling about this.
What should it matter, whether I'm a member or not?? I just want to hear why you think I should be, hell, maybe you can convince me.
sschumacher
Aug 28 2008, 12:48 PM
Technically you sold it to Wise. So, keep me out of that. (and yes, he has been paid)
And NO, I'm not a member...what should that matter??
I haven't ever given my opinions on membership before...especially on the board. Not sure if its the place to do that.
I'm not so sure you want my opinions anyway... :o:eek:
Well I'm not really sure if membership is worth that much anyway. If you look at the membership list you see a large percentage of people that have just came and gone.
Now days I think the club makes more money off the minis than anything else and I really don't think most members or non-members really care where that money goes as long as stolen baskets are replaced, a new course pops up every once in a while, and added TDSA cash is added to tournament pots.
I think becoming a member is more like saying "Hey, I believe in what you're doing and here's $15 to help keep Tulsa, surrounding cities, and Oklahoma # 1 in DG fun, variety, and competitive within the national sport. :cool:
pdorries
Aug 28 2008, 12:53 PM
furdog you said that bagtags shouldnt have a number... i think even if you aren't good enough to get the number 1 2 or 3 bag tag, there is still satisfaction in having numner 50+ and playing good and winning a 17 or something. Now you might want to try and keep people who have the number 1 tag from losing it all the time (cough Coda), but we should definitely have an active bag tag system.
i like treats ideas and i also understand the point of supporting the club just to support it without all these added benefits, but i think you can still offer benefits that aren't necessarily expensive for the club and still promote getting a club membership. all of the things andrew said were great. and like i mentioned before, if i wasnt a college student and had a nice job, i would be MORE than willing to support the club (the day will come...).
i dislike the idea of instituting the MMFMM ace pot system on all courses because it would be extremely discouraging to people just beginning or new to the town from even wanting to put in for ace pot. i feel like there is a lot of pride built up about locals hitting ace pots or members, but lets just look at it for what it is... someone (anyone) getting lucky on a certain day that they decided to put a dollar in the ace pot. who cares who it is or how many times they have contributed to it. if they get an ace, congrats and heres ur money. i know if i get my first mini/tournament ace and it was out of town, or it happened tomorrow, or if it took 5 years from now--i would still feel entitled to the full ace pot on that day. no matter how many years i had been putting a dollar in the ace pot.
Pennekamp
Aug 28 2008, 01:11 PM
And NO, I'm not a member...what should that matter??
I haven't ever given my opinions on membership before...especially on the board. Not sure if its the place to do that.
I'm not so sure you want my opinions anyway... :o:eek:
Well I'm not really sure if membership is worth that much anyway. If you look at the membership list you see a large percentage of people that have just came and gone.
Now days I think the club makes more money off the minis than anything else and I really don't think most members or non-members really care where that money goes as long as stolen baskets are replaced, a new course pops up every once in a while, and added TDSA cash is added to tournament pots.
I think becoming a member is more like saying "Hey, I believe in what you're doing and here's $15 to help keep Tulsa, surrounding cities, and Oklahoma # 1 in DG fun, variety, and competitive within the national sport. :cool:
So you're saying that the only way to really show your support for the club is to pay $15?? I'll remember that the next time Mohawk is ****ed up and the club is asking for guys to help. I believe in the club, but don't feel that paying dues is the only way to support it.
Fck this.....Im done :mad:
twoputtok
Aug 28 2008, 01:29 PM
Nice FurDog, real nice....................... :mad:
Bad information
Bad math
Bad Ideas
Bad attitude
Why don't you do us all a favor and take the rest of the week off. :o
Pennekamp
Aug 28 2008, 02:13 PM
And one more thing....since I'm in the mood to rant a little bit. This $1.00 discount thing is a bit of a joke if you ask me. I know its supposed to be a benefit...but, I could have bought the exact same disc online for $12.95. How is that a benefit of being a member? Paying more doesn't seem like a benefit. None-the-less, I did buy it from a TDSA member...but I'm not supporting the club because I don't pay dues.
sschumacher
Aug 28 2008, 02:37 PM
**** Penny. You don�t get involved in discussions very often and I didn�t mean to run you off or disrespect your volunteer contributions. I�m not speaking for the club but I�m sure the club as well as I appreciate the non-members and non-current members that show up on a volunteer day. I�ve volunteered out at Mohawk too but probably not as much as you have. Just by showing up at a mini or club sponsored event non-members are supporting the club. You already seemed irritated at a misinterpreted comment from Treat and I guess I didn�t word my opinion properly for you. :confused:
wforest
Aug 28 2008, 02:39 PM
Now a days I think the club makes more money off the minis than anything else and I really don't think most members or non-members really care where that money goes as long as stolen baskets are replaced, a new course pops up every once in a while, and added TDSA cash is added to tournament pots. :cool:
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... FurDog , that summation hits-the-nail-on-the-head ... perfectly true throughout ...
sschumacher
Aug 28 2008, 02:40 PM
Nice FurDog, real nice....................... :mad:
Bad information
Bad math
Bad Ideas
Bad attitude
Why don't you do us all a favor and take the rest of the week off. :o
Why don't you go hide out in the woods at Mohawk with your boxing gloves. :p
twoputtok
Aug 28 2008, 02:40 PM
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sschumacher
Aug 28 2008, 03:29 PM
furdog you said that bagtags shouldnt have a number... i think even if you aren't good enough to get the number 1 2 or 3 bag tag, there is still satisfaction in having numner 50+ and playing good and winning a 17 or something. Now you might want to try and keep people who have the number 1 tag from losing it all the time (cough Coda), but we should definitely have an active bag tag system.
<font color="red">Actually the CS25 bag tags will be numbered which I prefer but to number a general membership club tag without knowing how many members might join or renew in a year might be hard to estimate. The CS25 tags will be fundraisers with a random draw so #1 is not a given that it will be had by a super arm. </font>
i like treats ideas and i also understand the point of supporting the club just to support it without all these added benefits, but i think you can still offer benefits that aren't necessarily expensive for the club and still promote getting a club membership. all of the things andrew said were great. and like i mentioned before, if i wasnt a college student and had a nice job, i would be MORE than willing to support the club (the day will come...).
<font color="red">Maybe the club should just lower it's membership altogether? </font>
i dislike the idea of instituting the MMFMM ace pot system on all courses because it would be extremely discouraging to people just beginning or new to the town from even wanting to put in for ace pot. i feel like there is a lot of pride built up about locals hitting ace pots or members, but lets just look at it for what it is... someone (anyone) getting lucky on a certain day that they decided to put a dollar in the ace pot. who cares who it is or how many times they have contributed to it. if they get an ace, congrats and heres ur money. i know if i get my first mini/tournament ace and it was out of town, or it happened tomorrow, or if it took 5 years from now--i would still feel entitled to the full ace pot on that day. no matter how many years i had been putting a dollar in the ace pot.
I was kidding when I brought the MMFMM. The MMFMM is a OO fundraiser but because it's ace pot is based on you being there from the start to get the total payout it's kind of exclusive. I reminds me of a bunch of guys playing the same slot machine for years and keeping the new guy from winning the pot while they're away from the machine in the bathroom. ;).... :D If there was an option or way to pay to be considered %100 in then that would be nice for someone willing to pay to catch up but I think these Leprecan's are not going to leave their pot of gold open to the average newbie. ;)
I withdraw my original ace pot proposal. The current system is fine I guess. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
taydrl
Aug 28 2008, 03:38 PM
How about this one? At the TFO next weekend let's have a benefit auction. It probably won't last 45 minutes but here's what I propose. Everybody that can, bring something to sell. At dinner saturday nite we will hold the auction. All of the money raised at this auction will go to benefit the players. Here's how it will work. Say Jake donates a dinner for two at Charleston's, we sell it and it brings $30. Stine does the same for Garfields, others can bring plastic, an umbrella, I don't care, anything that you think might raise a few bucks. Maybe Woody can come up with a $20 gift certificate for the tavern. At the end of the auction and we have tallied up the money, here's what we (might) do with it. Take the money and purchase a PDGA membership, a TDSA membership and so on, Then, those who have entered in this tournament will have their names placed in a hat for a random drawing for these prizes. Just bring something that you are not using anymore but you feel relatively certain that someone else will actually "purchase" it. This can be great fun and do some good. The reason I mention "might" do with it is because we will form a small committee at the tournament that will decide how to best "Give it Back". I am sure we can "twist" it around and come up with a "wise" decision, the "lodgeic" of which will not escape anyone. :cool:
Pennekamp
Aug 28 2008, 04:14 PM
**** Penny. You don�t get involved in discussions very often and I didn�t mean to run you off or disrespect your volunteer contributions. I�m not speaking for the club but I�m sure the club as well as I appreciate the non-members and non-current members that show up on a volunteer day. I�ve volunteered out at Mohawk too but probably not as much as you have. Just by showing up at a mini or club sponsored event non-members are supporting the club. You already seemed irritated at a misinterpreted comment from Treat and I guess I didn�t word my opinion properly for you. :confused:
Its OK Furdog. I'm not upset about anything or anyone. Sorry if you took my out-of-character, active involvement in the discussion as me being upset. Its just something that comes up quite a bit, and that I've thought about quite a bit.
To tell you the truth, I have some ideas for boosting membership, but haven't felt its my place to advise on the situation.
I'm not against becoming a member...just, for me, right now, I don't see a benefit. I will continue to support it like I have done in the past...by attending minis, volunteering for work days, etc.
We all good now??!?! :)
mtreat
Aug 28 2008, 04:42 PM
Let me make it very simple..
Without the TDSA you will have to rely on the Tulsa Parks Department and Tulsa County to take care of our existing courses and add a new one every now and then.
In a very short time you are going to have McClure, Dovillio and all the other courses with 15 or 16 baskets left, and those will dwindle down as well due to no maintenance budget at the city or county.
Based on how government runs do you want to put your disc golf future in the hands of people who could care less??
Take a look at OKC, 3 courses and I question even counting Will Rogers.
All I heard all weekend from the OKC guys is how lucky we are over here to have this club. Many of them wish we could merge the two cities.
This was all established by our forefathers, McCoy, Forest, Zucconi, on and on and on..
Thanks to the hard work, and wow is that an understatement, of the volunteers for Am Worlds 2006, we are in good financial shape. The membership fees help, but we are not dependent on them to keep us going.
The mini's pay the way. Everytime you play a mini $1.00 goes to the club. The Players support this club and the club supports disc golf.
Lets say we have 120 players per week at our various mini's.
At a membership rate of $15.00 for 1 year, we would have to recruit 8 new members per week to equal that amount of money.
It is the financial circle of life for disc golfers...
I feel any push for new members is unnecessary. If you want to join then great. If you don't want to join you are still supporting "The Cause" by playing mini's..
The only real takers are the totally casual players and they aren't really taking because they don't understand what goes on behind the scenes.
They just enjoy the game and bless their little short hyzer shot hearts for that!!!
I am all for revamping the TDSA membership program but trust me it isn't going to make or break disc golf in Tulsa...
sschumacher
Aug 28 2008, 04:47 PM
Well I'm not going to push membership anymore.
My only real secret reason for doing so in the first place was to get enough new members in and convice them to vote to "oust" Opie from his Admin position at next years election. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :o
Just kidding Andrew.....I love you man!!!! ;) :D
m_conners
Aug 28 2008, 05:17 PM
Well put, Mr. Treat...I'd like to add that I think the lifetime membership option should stay in effect. A lot of people will member up to the TDSA and never renew their membership...NEVER! So what did the club get out of that member? We made ten dollars and now you'll never see that individual again. Maybe he/she decides to quit playing disc golf or moves away, there goes that re-occurring income to the club.
Now if that person had paid a lifetime membership fee ($60?) the club just made more money off that individual than it would have had he bought a basic membership.
Birdie
Aug 28 2008, 10:39 PM
Sorry I missed this discussion today...here are my thoughts:
Part of my running platform, which I was elected on, was to reach out to the "new guys" the young guys around town that are well spoken and have an interest in helping keep this club in great shape.
I have reached out to a few people already that I think would be GREAT additions to the board.
These dudes have not exactly jumped on the idea, but I am confident that they will warm up to it eventually.
These are the guys I talk to about ideas, these are the guys that really feel have the right stuff for the job and I have a lot of confidence in them.
That being said, Furdog, you might want to pony up if you really want on the Admin board.
And no Penny, I do not think that only card carrying club members (ha ha, we have no cards!) help keep Tulsa running, obviously it is a cumulative effort and ever little bit is MUCH APPRECIATED!
But I think that a guy who is a member of a group should feel a certain responsibility to assist when that group struggles toward some goal or purpose.
With all that idealism aside, I think that Tulsa is in great shape as far as the future is concerned. I have come to see that my time as an Admin, which I plan on continuing to pursue, may be, historically speaking, as a bridge from one great era to another. And I am trying to do what I see as my responsibility which is gathering knowledge from the guys who keep us going now, and making sure nothing gets lost as we try and keep this good thing going...
As I just wanted to post to let inquiring minds know that, from a current admin and player's perspective, Tulsa is in good shape.
All of these little discussions and stuff are what makes us a better club than the next. There are people that read our board in an attempt to see what makes our club different from their club...
...and the only real difference, in my opinion, is the people.
We have, and thankfully have had, the right stock here in T-town.
Which brings us back to what still is, and has been, the subject of our discussion...
...Play Dovillio----It will make you better. :cool:
taydrl
Aug 28 2008, 11:29 PM
Good post Andrew. I agree that the TDSA is absolutely the best club in America today. I am not just saying that to be patronizing. Take us for example, we came to be involved in disc golf because of TDSA. I had an idea and made a phone call and boom, The Lodge is born. Why, because TDSA cares about disc golf. Look at Wayne Forest, a pillar of the disc golf community, Dave Wise, a savvy businessman who stayed involved with the "Team Event" discussion till he had it worked out. Now that event is a reality, thanks Dave. Kevin McCoy, jumped all over the building of The Courses here at The Lodge and got er done. Joe Rotan, brought us the TFO and put us on the map. I recently made a post about getting involved with a women's event here at The Lodge on 35 other sites that showed some activity or seemed relevant to the issue. The next day I was kicked off 9 sites, told to go somewhere else on 1 site, and told to quit "hijacking" their thread on one other. That is why I am proud to be a part of TDSA, tough issues tackled and worked out with tons of good input, fellowship, hard work, helping hand, supportive, how many accolades can I think of that apply to this group. And then there's Twoputt/Furdog, what more can I say. :D
Pennekamp
Aug 29 2008, 11:27 AM
Thats a FINE post, Andrew!!
---claps---
m_conners
Aug 29 2008, 12:31 PM
And no Penny, I do not think that only card carrying club members (ha ha, we have no cards!) help keep Tulsa running,
I still have my TDSA membership card, it has my name and TDSA member # on it...also, I still have my lifetime TDSA dog tags with my name and TDSA number on it.
Do we not offer these two items anymore?
sschumacher
Aug 29 2008, 12:41 PM
We've got cards but nothing as cool and impressive as one of these... :(
http://tulsatvmemories.com/imag1999/uncoltje.jpg
I don't know about the metal lifetime tags because I got mine from John Green.
I would think that maybe we could come up with a more classy bag tag for life'rs though. Maybe something engraved with color. :)
m_conners
Aug 29 2008, 12:56 PM
The dog tags are sweet...you can hook it up to your bag if you want.
zooc
Aug 29 2008, 04:55 PM
Let me make it very simple..
Without the TDSA you will have to rely on the Tulsa Parks Department and Tulsa County to take care of our existing courses and add a new one every now and then.
In a very short time you are going to have McClure, Dovillio and all the other courses with 15 or 16 baskets left, and those will dwindle down as well due to no maintenance budget at the city or county.
Based on how government runs do you want to put your disc golf future in the hands of people who could care less??
Take a look at OKC, 3 courses and I question even counting Will Rogers.
All I heard all weekend from the OKC guys is how lucky we are over here to have this club. Many of them wish we could merge the two cities.
This was all established by our forefathers, McCoy, Forest, Zucconi, on and on and on..
Thanks to the hard work, and wow is that an understatement, of the volunteers for Am Worlds 2006, we are in good financial shape. The membership fees help, but we are not dependent on them to keep us going.
The mini's pay the way. Everytime you play a mini $1.00 goes to the club. The Players support this club and the club supports disc golf.
Lets say we have 120 players per week at our various mini's.
At a membership rate of $15.00 for 1 year, we would have to recruit 8 new members per week to equal that amount of money.
It is the financial circle of life for disc golfers...
I feel any push for new members is unnecessary. If you want to join then great. If you don't want to join you are still supporting "The Cause" by playing mini's..
The only real takers are the totally casual players and they aren't really taking because they don't understand what goes on behind the scenes.
They just enjoy the game and bless their little short hyzer shot hearts for that!!!
I am all for revamping the TDSA membership program but trust me it isn't going to make or break disc golf in Tulsa...
Thanks for the props treat.. The city used to replace the stolen ones, I know budget has little to do with this, its only 400.00 I tghink its the peop0le running the courses dont know the ropes, or wont ask me or the city.. Call me sometime bigdave if you are missing some metal.I think we can still get the city to buck up, because they own the material and they replace exsisting equiptmnet. Do you think they would leave a slide or swing emtpy... anyway. gottas go,, I ll be in Shea stadium next fri. :D
mtreat
Sep 02 2008, 02:49 PM
Dovillion mini tonight!!!
Flex tee times from 5:30 to 6:00..
The radar looks pretty grim but we will be there one way or another.
Also, tonight is the Tulsa debut of the $10.00 pro fee.
I have seen the payout sheets and I think you are going to really like the payouts!!!!
See you there, be early, it's getting dark earlier, lets get this deal done :cool:
Pennekamp
Sep 02 2008, 02:53 PM
I really wanted to play this week. good luck all!! Looks like I'll be a spectator again. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
m_conners
Sep 02 2008, 05:00 PM
The ace pot stands at $313. And I still think it won't be hit until it is maxed out at $599.
That's a healthy ace pot...will Devan "ace pot killa" Owens deplete it once again (?) I'm willing to bet he shows up tonight.
Pennekamp
Sep 02 2008, 06:08 PM
Just looked at the radar...W O W!!!! :eek:
m_conners
Sep 02 2008, 06:20 PM
It's a mild Gustav which will end up blowing my disc in the basket tonight.
Birdie
Sep 02 2008, 11:34 PM
Alrighty then...
There was only two brief (maybe 30 seconds each) other than that the temperature was actually nice and it wasn't too windy.
Tonight was the first night of increased pro fees so i am going to post the Pro payouts as well.
Dave Wise can get happy in the same pants he got mad in.
As for the results...
PRO
Devan Owens 47 ----$51
Coda Hatfield 50 ----$35
Kyle Wilkes 51 ----$27
Andrew Treat 54 ----$13
Dan Bougher 55 ----$9
Chris Hicks 57
Dave Nicholson 59
Dave Wise 59
Johnny Thompson 59
Travis Koehnrig 60
Justin Bougher 61
Chris Wagle 62
Scott Sable 63
Phil Hagan 63
Mike Connors 65
PRO WOMEN
Melissa Townsend 65 $9
ADVANCED- Yes ADVANCED!!!
Sean Young 55
Jeremy Geiger 56
Richard Why?? 59
Orville Wagoner 60
Dave Townsned 60
Willie Spoon 62
Thanks for everyone for comig out and see you next week...
And remember...flex start so feel free to come out earlier...when you get there I will try and get you started ASAP, i.e. handing a scorecard and a pencil to four people...
:D
twoputtok
Sep 03 2008, 09:24 AM
I wasn't upset with you Andrew or the flex start, just the inconsiderate group in front of us. We saw themn on hole 7 when we were on hole 3 and by hole 10 we had two groups sitting on the tee pad of hole 10 and they wern't even half way down the fairway on 10. Our group waited for almost 20 minutes. Then at least 5 minutes per hole after that. :mad: And it wasn't just me, everyone on both cards were biatching about it, I'm just the only one that doesn't give a shiet and will say something about it. :p
Birdie
Sep 03 2008, 10:29 AM
Course Dovillio : where the truth comes out.
twoputtok
Sep 03 2008, 10:35 AM
My opinion is just that, mine. No one has to agree with it or like it. If you don't like it, then ignor it. Thats what I do with FurDog. :o:p ;)
Heath
Sep 03 2008, 10:36 AM
In ball golf you would just pump a drive into their group, then fake an apology about how you've never hit one that far. Then if they don't get the hint, you do it every hole thereafter until they get you tossed or move their ignorant butts out of the way.
Heath
Sep 03 2008, 10:39 AM
Also thanks for getting my pink Comet back to me Mr. Wise, I had almost forgotten about throwing it into the drink. Now I can't seem to shake the image of it flying past 17's basket straight into the pond. Thanks for the positive imagery Dave.
twoputtok
Sep 03 2008, 10:47 AM
You are welcome but you may want to thank thank the Taylor's, they are the ones that brought several discs back, two of which were yours. ;)
m_conners
Sep 03 2008, 12:24 PM
I wasn't upset with you Andrew or the flex start, just the inconsiderate group in front of us.
Yeah we had a fivesome which held up a couple groups, sorry but it happens. My advice is show up earlier next time in order to avoid slow fivesomes ;)
twoputtok
Sep 03 2008, 01:02 PM
I wasn't upset with you Andrew or the flex start, just the inconsiderate group in front of us.
Yeah we had a fivesome which held up a couple groups, sorry but it happens. My advice is show up earlier next time in order to avoid slow fivesomes ;)
Show up earlier? We started at 5:45.
The thing to do is for the slow fivesome to do the proper thing and either speed up or move aside. Same in ball golf buddy. ;) I guess the thing that amazed me is the group couldn't stay ahead of a total of 5 rec players, 1 woman, 1 sick guy and an old man. :o
m_conners
Sep 03 2008, 01:11 PM
Like I said it happens....sorry about the hold up, we probably should have let you play thru. Even with my various OB's throughout the round I thought I played pretty fast. Devan was shooting multiple practice shots which is what probably held everyone up the most. It's probably best to keep groups at 3 or 4 players simply for speed of play.
My first seven holes went like this:
Hole 1: 6
Hole 2: 4
Hole 3: 5
Hole 4: 4
Hole 6: 5
Hole 7: 4
+10 after seven holes, ouch...i pretty much gave up after that and went for nothing but ace runs.
Melissa
Sep 03 2008, 01:27 PM
For whatever reason, I agree that play was very s...l...o...w. It definitely felt like we were playing in a tournament, not a weeknight mini. It was still fun though...until, of course, the last five holes. I don't think fivesomes should be allowed in flex starts...just my opinion...by what do I know?!?! (Please don't take offense, TnT!!! That's just an opinion!!!)
twoputtok
Sep 03 2008, 01:49 PM
You hit the nail on the head! DEVAN! :mad:
The next mini I see him at a mini I will stroke him for every practice shot or extra putt he takes. :mad:He has had this habit for a while and needs to be broken.
m_conners
Sep 03 2008, 01:55 PM
Yeah he's been doing it for a while. He played some solid golf last night. He birdied holes 12-16 which was pretty impressive.
twoputtok
Sep 03 2008, 01:58 PM
Yes its impressive that he hit those holes but the extra shot thing has got to stop during the minis. If he wants to unload his bag, then go play a practice round. :p
I had a feeling that was the problem, thats why he was the only one of the group that I addressed last night about the hold up. :p
Pennekamp
Sep 03 2008, 02:07 PM
I'm edited
Big Easy
Sep 03 2008, 02:31 PM
Yeah he's been doing it for a while. He played some solid golf last night. He birdied holes 12-16 which was pretty impressive.
Maybe if we all had practice shots during the round...
we could all score better. :p
D.P. :D
m_conners
Sep 03 2008, 04:59 PM
Birdie
Sep 03 2008, 05:14 PM
The reason there were five players on some cards was not my doing but the cards themselves.
I sent out four player cards, and, a few times, people joined with them as they started rather than wait...
I foresaw a really quick round not 10 minute backups.
I called Devan, and he said he only threw practice throws on like 4 or 5 holes. But said others were doing the same...
What it comes down to is keeping the pace of a regular mini, Devan thought I was being harsh, I think, saying "quit throwing practice shots" because it is a mini and I think he has a point. It is a mini. And as far as I am concerned the only problems at minis are things that cause problems.
It was the first time in awhile that we had done a flex start and I think some of the people just went out there and had a blast playing the course and lost track of time.
It that is a big deal then we need to examine out standards.
I think this was a result of lack of communication and Wise secretly being Devan's father... :eek:!
m_conners
Sep 03 2008, 05:20 PM
I called Devan, and he said he only threw practice throws on like 4 or 5 holes. But said others were doing the same...
****! Red your new nickname should be "THE PRINCIPAL" bcuz you will reprimend and individual without thinking twice :D
Devan didn't throw a practice shot on every hole I never said that. He's been throwing the occasional practice shot for years, I really don't care if he does or he doesnt it's a freaking mini for crying out loud.
I think Devan's worst practice shot ever was when he hit mike barrs kid in the leg...barr was so pizzzed i thought he was going to burst a blood vessel in his face.
twoputtok
Sep 03 2008, 05:36 PM
Sounds like Devan to roll over on the others. "Its wasn't me, they all were doing it"
Andrew, it had nothing to do with it being a fivesome, foursome or sixsome, it didn't matter how the cards were made up.
Its not a big deal how many shots you throw, as long as there aren't 8 people on a tee pad waiting behind you to throw, your right it is a mini, so lets play, not all stand around and wait on a couple of players. :p
If you're not holding up a group, empty your bag for all I care but when you see them gaining on you, either pick it up or move over. ;)
I have played golf with you long enough Conner's to know that it would have had you a little warm under the collar after a wait on about 8 holes and not a group in front of them for as far as you could see. Guaranteed! :p
m_conners
Sep 03 2008, 05:39 PM
I have played golf with you long enough Conner's to know that it would have had you a little warm under the collar after a wait on about 8 holes and not a group in front of them for as far as you could see. Guaranteed! :p
Oh yeah dude I agree 100%, you know I would have been complaining...my group was definetly playing slow and I noticed that on hole 11. Next time that happens i'll mention something to my group.
twoputtok
Sep 03 2008, 05:40 PM
If you'd had your three wood you would have let a few rip..... FORRRRRRRRe!... Sorrrrrry. My bad. :D
m_conners
Sep 03 2008, 05:41 PM
By the way I think Devan's rating will jump at least 10 points...especially if Souther Naties is involved.
m_conners
Sep 03 2008, 05:42 PM
If you'd had your three wood you would have let a few rip..... FORRRRRRRRe!... Sorrrrrry. My bad. :D
5 years ago I would have done that without thinking :Di've calmed down as far as throwing/hitting into other groups goes. But it's still annoying as he11 to stand around and wait like that.
twoputtok
Sep 03 2008, 05:44 PM
But real fun to hit at em! :D
especially when you get close. :D
twoputtok
Sep 03 2008, 05:45 PM
By the way I think Devan's rating will jump at least 10 points...especially if Souther Naties is involved.
It won't be in the 9/9/08 update.
coda_hatfield
Sep 03 2008, 06:16 PM
Whiners!!!!(not to be confused with winner) If you can't take a little waiting you may as well give up playing tournaments, cause it happens.
AllDay
Sep 03 2008, 06:49 PM
I can't take the waiting................ :D
m_conners
Sep 03 2008, 06:50 PM
I can't take the waiting................ :D
Winz, do you play disc golf anymore?
Melissa
Sep 03 2008, 06:54 PM
I heard Winz may be coming out of retirement this weekend! Or soon there after maybe. Winz?
AllDay
Sep 03 2008, 06:56 PM
I'm still in retirement.
My projected return date is going to be pushed back a little bit.
I'll be back soon though.
twoputtok
Sep 03 2008, 07:25 PM
Whiners!!!!(not to be confused with winner) If you can't take a little waiting you may as well give up playing tournaments, cause it happens.
It was a mini not a tournament, there wasn't a group for 6 holes infront of them and it had nothing to do you with you your highness. :oSo hum on that for a while! :p
mtreat
Sep 03 2008, 11:17 PM
I think with the higher Pro entry fees and subsequent payouts, practice shots are a bad deal...
There are going to be some pretty high payouts and the playing field needs to be as level as possible.
My vote is no practice throws, outside of the occasional frustration second putt :cool:
By the way, what do you think about mulligans at mini's???
OAKIEDONKEY
Sep 04 2008, 12:53 AM
SAVE THE MULLIGANS FOR CHANDLER....I SECOND THE SECOND SHOT RULE....ESPECIALLY IF IT SLOWS DOWN THE FIELD....ALTHOUGH I AM GUILTY OF THE SECOND....THIRD PUTTS SOMETIMES....AND I THINK THEY NEED TO GO IF THERE IS A RULE ON ANY EXTRA SHOTS....
sschumacher
Sep 04 2008, 10:16 AM
Whiners!!!!(not to be confused with winner) If you can't take a little waiting you may as well give up playing tournaments, cause it happens.
It was a mini not a tournament, there wasn't a group for 6 holes infront of them and it had nothing to do you with you your highness. :oSo hum on that for a while! :p
Sorry buddy but Coda is right. You are a winer. I've seen you take practice shots during a mini before and it didn't matter how many cards were lined up behind us.
Practice shots should never be allowed period.
I think this has more to do with Devon kicking your butt than anything else.....And the fact that you have no "highness". :p
twoputtok
Sep 04 2008, 10:38 AM
You haven't seen shiet, you don't play anywhere but your precious little ant hill. :p And its impossible to not hold up groups at Chandler when the minis don't start till almost 7pm. :o
As for Devan, ask him who he has handed his money to lately? :o
Now, stick your head back in your lil cube and try to determine what is 2/3 of 100. :o
sschumacher
Sep 04 2008, 11:00 AM
You haven't seen shiet,
<font color="red">I've seen plenty of practice shots and putts from you. Most of the putts are anger slam putts after you've missed the first one. As a rules monger it seems that you only call them when its on somebody else. When you do it you always have some lame excuse. On top of that, all this coming from a guy that rides on the mule while everyone else hoofs it. </font>
And its impossible to not hold up groups at Chandler when the minis don't start till almost 7pm. :o
<font color="red">As I've told you many times in the past, if you think you can do better than STEP UP CHICKEN LITTLE. </font>
If you're going to whine about Devon then you need to include and call out by name all the other people on his card that allowed him or said nothing to him about his practice throws. Remember when that guy called Devon out in front of everyone at the GCD because Devon was throwing two putters at the ROF? You need to be that guy. The fact that you don't call the others out shows me that this has more to do with you having a problem with a young guy that throws better than you. :o
Go ahead missy. Name the other four people on his card that stood around and did nothing much to your disatisfaction. :)
Then name all the people that were on the card behind him that didn't walk up and gripe. Come on Nancy, you can do it. ;)
twoputtok
Sep 04 2008, 11:16 AM
Offending Group
Devan Owens
Dave Nicholson
Johnny Thompson
Scott Sable
Mike Connors
Am group behind them
Jeremy Geiger
Richard Why
Orville Wagoner
Willie Spoon
Group behind that
Chris Wagle
Dave Wise
Melissa Townsend
Dave Townsend
Is that what you're looking for?
Now, at the minis, just about everyone will throw an extra putt or shot once and a while, even the Great Coda will chunk another putt at the basket once and a while, especially after a miss. I'm not going to argue with you about it, I don't think you have ever played a round with Devon and even know what I'm talking about.
There are other players on here that can attest to his need to throw extra shots on about every hole and have told him to stop at various times but it seems to continue and that night it obviously was out of hand with the back up that occurred. I voiced my opinion with him about it. And as I posted earlier, its my opinion and it just that, mine, you don't have to agree with it, like it or even listen to it. Take yourself as an example, you talk all the time but they only listen about 10% of the time, at least I do. :o:p
Now if you want to continue to try and stir the pot or create controversy where there is none, as you continually do, then do it with someone else.
sschumacher
Sep 04 2008, 11:17 AM
Good boy.....
Now we can really hang these guys out to dry!!!!! :D