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ching_lizard
Mar 24 2007, 07:54 PM
Thanks for the heads up Ken!

<table border="1"><tr><td> Day</td><td>date</td><td>blurbage</td><td>High / Low</td><td>Precip. %
</td></tr><tr><td>Tonight</td><td>24-Mar</td><td>Mostly Cloudy</td><td>66�</td><td>10%
</td></tr><tr><td>Sun</td><td>25-Mar</td><td>Cloudy</td><td>78�/64�</td><td>10%
</td></tr><tr><td>Mon</td><td>26-Mar</td><td>Cloudy</td><td>77�/63�</td><td>10%
</td></tr><tr><td>Tue</td><td>27-Mar</td><td>Isolated T-Storms</td><td>80�/64�</td><td>30%
</td></tr><tr><td>Wed</td><td>28-Mar</td><td>Partly Cloudy</td><td>80�/65�</td><td>10%
</td></tr><tr><td>Thu</td><td>29-Mar</td><td>Mostly Cloudy</td><td>80�/59�</td><td>10%
</td></tr><tr><td>Fri</td><td>30-Mar</td><td>Scattered T-Storms</td><td>80�/56�</td><td>40%
</td></tr><tr><td>Sat</td><td>31-Mar</td><td>Sunny</td><td>78�/59�</td><td>10%
</td></tr><tr><td>Sun</td><td>1-Apr</td><td>Sunny</td><td>78�/58�</td><td>10%
</td></tr><tr><td>Mon</td><td>2-Apr</td><td>Sunny</td><td>74�/56�</td><td>10%
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>
Bizzle
Mar 24 2007, 10:35 PM
Sweet weather...hopefully the rain will hold off and not swamp the course!!
ZCRUSHER
Mar 25 2007, 12:53 AM
yea that wind sucked!! but everyone else had a good wind way earlier in the day... Justice will be served!!! there needs to be one at states... off the hill twords the crowd at the pavilion or somthing!
frisbeeguy
Mar 25 2007, 01:32 AM
Thanks for the good forecast!
I mailed a registration & check last Monday night...hopefully you'll see it Monday. Add another to MPM please.
Thanks
ching_lizard
Mar 25 2007, 02:45 AM
I think I heard rumor that it may have arrived Alex.

I don't have it yet, but I'll get it in the next batch.
suemac
Mar 25 2007, 08:54 AM
We've got a planned menu of smoked brisket, chicken and sausage. Pinto Beans/Green beans , potato salad and green salad too. All for a good cause.

Just to let you all know, pre pay when you check in, cause on Sunday the price will be $7.00 :)
ching_lizard
Mar 25 2007, 10:38 PM
Wow! I witnessed an online registration with my own eyes!!!

Stimpy's in.

:D:D
jbitner
Mar 26 2007, 01:26 AM
Ching, signed up two days ago :cool:. Just want to make sure you got it. Thanks, J
ching_lizard
Mar 26 2007, 09:43 AM
Jay - I'll keep an eye out for it in tonight's update.

I haven't gotten any DiscNation updates since Friday's load. I know that there are a bunch of entries waiting for us today.
bigbadude
Mar 26 2007, 10:33 AM
Looks like the Masters are gonna show up :cool:
ninafofitre
Mar 26 2007, 11:22 AM
Hey! Where's Kevin and Courtney at? (Don't tell me he's painting the baby's room already!!! :D)



I'm still trying to TWIST CP's arm trying to get there!

Courtney has said she will go if we can find her a pull cart so it looks like we will be shopping for one this week ;)

We should know for sure if we can make it by Wed..It's all up to Courtney and how the baby in the tummy feels :p
frisbeeguy
Mar 26 2007, 11:30 AM
Looks like the Masters are gonna show up :cool:


Well...I'll be there anyway. Perhaps my game will make it for a round as well?
See y'all Sat. :p
bigbadude
Mar 26 2007, 11:33 AM
Be there on friday morning.
seewhere
Mar 26 2007, 11:38 AM
Well...I'll be there anyway. Perhaps my game will make it for a round as well?
See y'all Sat.




i thought you retired in Victoria :o:D
bigbadude
Mar 26 2007, 11:45 AM
But he has came back in and out of retirement 12 times ;) :D:D:D:Dand he might retire a few times this weekend ;) :D:D
ching_lizard
Mar 26 2007, 11:54 AM
Hey! Where's Kevin and Courtney at? (Don't tell me he's painting the baby's room already!!! :D)



I'm still trying to TWIST CP's arm trying to get there!

Courtney has said she will go if we can find her a pull cart so it looks like we will be shopping for one this week ;)

We should know for sure if we can make it by Wed..It's all up to Courtney and how the baby in the tummy feels :p



I just loaned mine and Melissa's out to Jay and Des, but I'm pretty sure that I can scare up another loaner cart for Courtney to use. Send me a PM Kev.
suemac
Mar 26 2007, 11:56 AM
Larry, one's been offered already! :D
ninafofitre
Mar 26 2007, 12:13 PM
Thanks!!!!! CP will be very excited!

Our attendance chances just got upgraded from 50/50 to 90/10...gotta pamper momma this week so she says yes and we can come on down. :D
Lyle O Ross
Mar 26 2007, 12:25 PM
Just a reminder, We're running a speed golf event out of Tournament Headquarters on Friday afternoon 3:00 to 5:00! $10 entry with $100 added cash. Ten holes around the perimiter of the inner-loop.

I've had a number of interested parties so it should be a blast!
ck34
Mar 26 2007, 01:19 PM
I'm not sure who the speed golf specialists are but I was thinking that having a competition and/or exhibition on the Final 9 course at Pro Worlds right before it starts might be a fun thing to watch.
suemac
Mar 26 2007, 01:20 PM
Zoom, Zoom, Zoom. :D
Lyle O Ross
Mar 26 2007, 01:32 PM
That really makes me mad! My kids are still too young for me to go to Worlds so that means I won't be able to run in the first Worlds Speed Golf event! Durn it!

I can tell you that there are a number of real runners out there who play disc golf and a lot of guys in NC who may or may not be real runners who run courses. There are also two models by which to run an event, time and strokes. I use the time model but others use the stroke method. The time method gives equal weight to disc golf and running, the stroke method favors disc golf. So much so, that in my opinion you should just play a round and skip the running. :D Basically, in the stroke method 1 min = 1 stroke. So you add total strokes to total minutes and get your score. In the total time method every stroke over or under par is +/- a given time (I use 15 seconds). So if you run the course in 10 minutes and are 3 over, your time is 10 min 45 sec.

I think Lowe is the stroke method expert but if you want help, one way or the other, I'd be happy to.
ck34
Mar 26 2007, 01:39 PM
I'm open to anyone who would like to put this together. The Final 9 will be set up nicely for spectating in a big loop. I think it would be an interesting side show for spectators while remaining competitors are recovering from the semis, eating lunch and preparing for their Final 9.
tbender
Mar 26 2007, 05:14 PM
Larry, did you get my registration?


:)
Lyle O Ross
Mar 26 2007, 05:15 PM
I'm open to anyone who would like to put this together. The Final 9 will be set up nicely for spectating in a big loop. I think it would be an interesting side show for spectators while remaining competitors are recovering from the semis, eating lunch and preparing for their Final 9.



If I were coming I'd run it for you... but I'm not. What about Lowe? I can send you the rules I marked out for my event and I'll help from here all I can, but not being there is rough.
Lyle O Ross
Mar 26 2007, 05:16 PM
Larry, did you get my registration?


:)



Don't do that, a quick read got me resignation... :D
yobyug
Mar 26 2007, 05:28 PM
Zoom, Zoom, Zoom. :D



knOW WHAT THIs MeAns TO An ATX gOlfer ! ! !
jakewalsdorf
Mar 26 2007, 06:41 PM
Zoom, Zoom, Zoom. :D



knOW WHAT THIs MeAns TO An ATX gOlfer ! ! !



You guys drive a Mazda??? :)
Mar 26 2007, 08:56 PM
Do any of you TX dogs know how I could get in touch with JD Ramirez? If so give him my email or send his over to me

randeberhard@gmail.com

Thanks
ching_lizard
Mar 26 2007, 09:15 PM
Holy smokes!!!

Busy day for the reg. desk today!

Added somewhere around 20 more entries today for a total of: 149 pre-registered.

Click on this part (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6264) to see the latest reg. list.

Here's the vitals so far:

by pools: <table border="1"><tr><td> Pool</td><td>Count
</td></tr><tr><td>A</td><td>49
</td></tr><tr><td>B</td><td>57
</td></tr><tr><td>C</td><td>43
</td></tr><tr><td>Total:</td><td>149
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

by division: <table border="1"><tr><td> Division</td><td>Count
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>21
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>15
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>9
</td></tr><tr><td>FPO</td><td>2
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>36
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>14
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1</td><td>4
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>27
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>12
</td></tr><tr><td>FW3</td><td>4
</td></tr><tr><td>MG1</td><td>3
</td></tr><tr><td>FW2</td><td>0
</td></tr><tr><td>FPM</td><td>2
</td></tr><tr><td>Total All:</td><td>149
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table> Key: <table border="1"><tr><td> Pool A</td><td>MPO,MPM,MPG,FPO,FPM</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Pool B</td><td>MA1,FW1,MM1,MG1</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Pool C</td><td>MA2,FW2,MA3,FW3</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>
Bizzle
Mar 26 2007, 09:37 PM
Added somewhere around 20 more entries today for a total of: 149 pre-registered.



Holy crap Larry......you getting any sleep? No rain today!!

Bring your bug spray and waterproof shoes...........Looks like its gonna pour tonight, and tomorrow...lets hope the 40% chance on Thurs and Fri. hold off!!
odd_enough
Mar 26 2007, 09:45 PM
Yes he does. but think Boliva. :o
ching_lizard
Mar 26 2007, 09:48 PM
LoL!!!


Holy crap Larry......you getting any sleep? No rain today!!


:D Yeah, I'm getting sleep enough, but these entries are just pouring in now. We're getting large batches from DiscNation, mail-ins, and Neal, Tony and I are all taking personally handed over ones!

We only have today and tomorrow for DiscNation registrations though...everyone else that wants to get in is going to have to be at the course on Friday afternoon and sign up with Tony or me.
odd_enough
Mar 26 2007, 09:56 PM
Hey Larry. Best I remember, those courses drain very well so rain will not be a problem. Right? :D
Bizzle
Mar 26 2007, 10:04 PM
Hey Larry. Best I remember, those courses drain very well so rain will not be a problem. Right? :D



Ha....Are we talking about the same courses? I'm bringing my fishing waders! :(
ching_lizard
Mar 26 2007, 10:05 PM
Hey Larry. Best I remember, those courses drain very well so rain will not be a problem. Right? :D



:DLoL!!! :D

Just do what Brenner always does and wear sandals!
Bizzle
Mar 26 2007, 10:07 PM
Anyone got any water pumps we can borrow? I'm gonna go check the courses tomorrow.......say a little prayer for me that I remember how to swim ;)
bschweberger
Mar 26 2007, 10:12 PM
wish I could be in Texas, always a good time.
odd_enough
Mar 26 2007, 10:13 PM
ATX got 2.5" today and it's heading your way. I guess I was thinking of the big hill that drains. The rest is swamp, errr wetlands. No more roller practice for me.
ching_lizard
Mar 26 2007, 10:16 PM
wish I could be in Texas, always a good time.



Wish you were here too Schwebby! :D Any time you want to come, you know you've always got a place to stay at here!

Looking like some good competition for some good money!
Bizzle
Mar 26 2007, 10:16 PM
ATX got 2.5" today and it's heading your way. I guess I was thinking of the big hill that drains. The rest is swamp, errr wetlands. No more roller practice for me.



Unless you have a hover craft type roller ;)
ching_lizard
Mar 26 2007, 10:21 PM
ATX got 2.5" today and it's heading your way. I guess I was thinking of the big hill that drains. The rest is swamp, errr wetlands. No more roller practice for me.



Uh-oh Todd...if that's true, then we should probably expect 2.49" worth of standing water out there! :D

I was out there on Saturday morning for a work-detail and although all of the ponds were full, there was only a trickle in the ditches themselves...looked like the ground was sponging up the rainfall very well. Let's hope we get a light rain and not a big one!
Bizzle
Mar 26 2007, 10:25 PM
Uh-oh Todd...if that's true, then we should probably expect 2.49" worth of standing water out there! :D

I was out there on Saturday morning for a work-detail and although all of the ponds were full, there was only a trickle in the ditches themselves...looked like the ground was sponging up the rainfall very well. Let's hope we get a light rain and not a big one!



Well...reguardless of the agua and the skeeters, should be a killer tourney.......150ish players!! BIG payout and GREAT competition...I look forward to my last rec. tourney!!! See ya'll Friday!
seewhere
Mar 26 2007, 10:30 PM
bizzle please keep us posted on course conditions that would be awesome than I know how many pair of shoes to bring..
Bizzle
Mar 26 2007, 10:31 PM
bizzle please keep us posted on course conditions that would be awesome than I know how many pair of shoes to bring..



Ha...will do...I'll send an update tomorrow wether or not you should bring the wet suit or not!
jbitner
Mar 27 2007, 12:19 AM
Ching, one more Bitner in the Open division. You should see it soon from disc nation. Also, Nathan renewed today with the PDGA, so everything should be square and visible by the end of the week. :cool::) Thanks, J
ching_lizard
Mar 27 2007, 12:29 AM
Sounds good Jay.

I'm telling everyone else that needs to renew their PDGA membership to just hold onto it until Saturday morning. Everyone that is renewing their PDGA membership in the last week or so needs to bring a printout with the online receipt as proof.

I registered two people a bit over a week ago, and although they called me and we got everything straight, their memberships still didn't show up last week. Don't know what the delay is between entering them online and them actually showing up online as being current. Seems like it's about 2 weeks.
jakewalsdorf
Mar 27 2007, 09:50 AM
bizzle please keep us posted on course conditions that would be awesome than I know how many pair of shoes to bring..



Ha...will do...I'll send an update tomorrow wether or not you should bring the wet suit or not!



The first rain bullet dodged last night. Let's see if we can luck out again today...
tbender
Mar 27 2007, 10:27 AM
On Saturday it was soggy around Wilmont #3 and inbetween #11, #15 and #5 (where it usually is wet from the south wetland overflow). Otherwise, the courses were fine.
frisbeeguy
Mar 27 2007, 10:42 AM
Well...I'll be there anyway. Perhaps my game will make it for a round as well?
See y'all Sat.




i thought you retired in Victoria :o:D



O.K. - ya got me there...I'm coming out of retirement to donate once again...perhaps you misunderstood me, my retirement was contemplated without sleep and on an empty stomach. Today is a new day & retirement # 13 is on the way!
frisbeeguy
Mar 27 2007, 10:46 AM
bizzle please keep us posted on course conditions that would be awesome than I know how many pair of shoes to bring..



Ha...will do...I'll send an update tomorrow wether or not you should bring the wet suit or not!



The first rain bullet dodged last night. Let's see if we can luck out again today...



Did the rain miss the course? It was pouring downtown from midnight to 1 am.

Oh joy! Could be pretty soggy this weekend with the mosquitos in full force. Be prepared!
ninafofitre
Mar 27 2007, 11:11 AM
Momma said we can come play!!!! WHOOOOHOOOO!



:D
vinnie
Mar 27 2007, 11:19 AM
cool check with me....I gota roc or two 4 u
ninafofitre
Mar 27 2007, 11:20 AM
We will be pulling in late Friday night....gotta work :mad:...... so I'll catch up with ya saturday Vinnie ;)
ching_lizard
Mar 27 2007, 11:40 AM
Today at 1pm central time is when we are closing down DiscNation for online registration.

Register before 1.

[Beetle Juice voice on] "It's showtime!"
Bizzle
Mar 27 2007, 12:09 PM
Did the rain miss the course? It was pouring downtown from midnight to 1 am.

Oh joy! Could be pretty soggy this weekend with the mosquitos in full force. Be prepared!



I live about 15 miles from the course and only had like 15 minutes of light rain, so I've got my fingers crossed for today...I'll give a report this evening after I check it out this afternoon.
seewhere
Mar 27 2007, 01:14 PM
thanks bizzle
tbender
Mar 27 2007, 01:19 PM
This is for Robbie Bratten: Nez does have the radar gun and it's ready to go. Bring it!
yobyug
Mar 27 2007, 04:56 PM
brIng IT OkIes ! ! ! :D
suemac
Mar 27 2007, 05:02 PM
brIng IT OkIes ! ! ! :D



i bET tHaT rEAlLy sCaRrEd'm, guY! :D ;) :D
Bizzle
Mar 27 2007, 09:03 PM
OK...just got back from throwin Wilmont...and I was plesently suprised....Yes the skeeters were in full force, but my deep woods off took care of me...infact, the only place I got bit was on my bald head which had sweated all of it off.

Ok....so there is a lot of standing water, but its bearable...infact I was able to finish the round with dry feet!! I also threw a couple of rollers in the deep stuff to test for you roller types and managed to get it off pretty well considering the conditions...hopefully it will get mowed and you will be good to go.

The lettuce is pretty high on holes 1-11 and 16-18 the rest have been mowed down....Im guessing the other holes were to soft to get a tractor out to knock it down.

The biggest problem was how soft the tee's were...only a few holes were packed or dry enough to do an X-step, the rest were just reach back and pull, unless you don't mind a broken ankle.

Lets hope for a dry rest of the week :p
cornhuskers9495
Mar 27 2007, 11:00 PM
I'm wagering a Fat Tire (http://www.newbelgium.com/beers_ft.php) on _Sprout_ winnin'.
the_kid
Mar 27 2007, 11:12 PM
I'm wagering a Fat Tire (http://www.newbelgium.com/beers_ft.php) on _Sprout_ winnin'.



Check the results from the last Bass event 1st and you may change your mind. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
seewhere
Mar 27 2007, 11:23 PM
I'll take that Fat tire wager but mine needs to be GROLSCH (http://www.grolschlager.com/)
Xian Rocs
Mar 27 2007, 11:41 PM
Played Powel Tuesday evening.

Same as Wilmont...some standing water, soft boxes, and the skeeters are bad only in the woods.
MicahMoonWinters
Mar 27 2007, 11:51 PM
This is Micah--trying to register online--anyone got a clue--went to discnation but its not under the tourney section.
ching_lizard
Mar 28 2007, 12:36 AM
Uhhh...Micah? Did you read the title on your post? (It closed at 1pm.)

You can still register in person on Friday afternoon at Doubles with either Tony Bender or Larry Kruse out there. Make special arrangements with either Neal or myself if you can't get here in time.

Just processed the flood of entries today...

The magic count is: 175

You can check out the reg. list by clicking on one my previous links. :D

(Don't worry - I'll change my signature line next!) :D
manderson
Mar 28 2007, 01:30 AM
if you show up on friday afternoon, will you be guaranteed a spot, or is there a limit to the number of entries? i don't want to drive from dallas and find out i can't play.
ching_lizard
Mar 28 2007, 01:44 AM
There are limited number of slots in each pool. Basically, Pros are A pool. All advanced divisions are B pool, and C pool has all Intermediate and Rec. divisions.

Each pool can hold 72 players (18holes x 4players) and there aren't any divisional caps within a pool...all 72 slots are up for grabs.

All pools are still open at this time.
ching_lizard
Mar 28 2007, 01:53 AM
Here are the gory details:

Pools
<table border="1"><tr><td> Pool</td><td>Count
</td></tr><tr><td>A</td><td>57
</td></tr><tr><td>B</td><td>66
</td></tr><tr><td>C</td><td>52
</td></tr><tr><td>Total:</td><td>175
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>
Key:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Pool A</td><td>MPO,MPM,MPG,FPO,FPM</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Pool B</td><td>MA1,FW1,MM1,MG1</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Pool C</td><td>MA2,FW2,MA3,FW3</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

and divisional counts:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Division</td><td>Count
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>25
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>17
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>10
</td></tr><tr><td>FPO</td><td>4
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>42
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>15
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1</td><td>5
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>34
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>14
</td></tr><tr><td>FW3</td><td>4
</td></tr><tr><td>MG1</td><td>4
</td></tr><tr><td>FW2</td><td>0
</td></tr><tr><td>FPM</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Total All:</td><td>175
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>
ching_lizard
Mar 28 2007, 01:59 AM
We have been known to to move MG1 and MM1 divisions into other pools, but all 3 pools are filling pretty evenly, so there won't be any room to move any pools too, other than maybe the one card of MG1s.

I know that one of the MA1 slots is spoken for by one of our local deaf players who e-mailed me tonight...I'm waiting on confirmation but that might be 2 of the remaining 6 slots in B-pool.
MicahMoonWinters
Mar 28 2007, 03:10 AM
I will send you cash if you can get me in. I haven't been able to play tournaments because of school, but I just did three tests and I need a break. It's my own fault for not being prepared, but I have the money and a ride, and an itching for a tourney. Played last year and had a blast! Any chance I can get in? /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :cool::) :( :o :D :eek:
yobyug
Mar 28 2007, 04:12 AM
HeY lArrY . . . . . . MIcA lIVes 5 MIn frOM dIscnATIOn . . . . :o. . . TOO bAd MIcA . . . . MA1 Is fUll . . . . . . . .YOU cAn plAY MpO THOUgH . . . . . :D
cornhuskers9495
Mar 28 2007, 12:48 PM
Don't need PAST results, scooter, to stake my claim.

"Look to the future, not the past. We only study the past so we don't duplicate the results"
-some guy who had many failed marriages-
ching_lizard
Mar 28 2007, 01:05 PM
Just added my deaf disc golfer friend in MA1.

Magic number: 176

You can view it by clicking on this link. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6264)

Pools:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Pool</td><td>Count
</td></tr><tr><td>A</td><td>57
</td></tr><tr><td>B</td><td>67
</td></tr><tr><td>C</td><td>52
</td></tr><tr><td>Total:</td><td>176
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>
<table border="1"><tr><td> Pool A</td><td>MPO,MPM,MPG,FPO,FPM</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Pool B</td><td>MA1,FW1,MM1,MG1</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Pool C</td><td>MA2,FW2,MA3,FW3</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Divisions:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Division</td><td>Count
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>25
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>17
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>10
</td></tr><tr><td>FPO</td><td>4
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>43
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>15
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1</td><td>5
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>34
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>14
</td></tr><tr><td>FW3</td><td>4
</td></tr><tr><td>MG1</td><td>4
</td></tr><tr><td>FW2</td><td>0
</td></tr><tr><td>FPM</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Total All:</td><td>176
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>
mpetre
Mar 28 2007, 01:12 PM
So speed golf and doubles will be going on at the same time on Friday? Would we be able to participate in both? Is the rain going to change anything about Friday afternoon's events?
ching_lizard
Mar 28 2007, 01:27 PM
No plans are changing yet Matt.

I'm doing my anti-rain dance...it sorta looks like My Hero's avatar...the dancing jelly-roll dude! :D
james_mccaine
Mar 28 2007, 01:28 PM
Two questions:

If I get out there friday to practice, what tees should I use?

What time is the players meeting on saturday?

I just have a feeling that a hard rain is gonna fall, but nonetheless, sloshing around out there during a Texas States event is still lots of fun.
dixonjowers
Mar 28 2007, 01:59 PM
to go along with James' questions...when will the tourney course be set up? also, does anyone have JD Ramirez' phone number?
my_hero
Mar 28 2007, 02:01 PM
Dixon!!!

Where is Tomball, TX? Sending you JD's digits in a PM
my_hero
Mar 28 2007, 02:04 PM
aw shucks, just think of the landing zone as a must-get duece and you'll be fine.




...and what would States be without agua up to your shins and floating ant colonies?
dixonjowers
Mar 28 2007, 02:10 PM
bout 5-10 min NW of the great beast which makes it about an hour from Bass, on a good day. And this makes me a local?! geez this city is too big.
dixonjowers
Mar 28 2007, 02:21 PM
Does anyone ELSE know JD's number? My Hero had the same defunct number i did.
maverick
Mar 28 2007, 02:28 PM
Dixon I sent you a PM with the number I have hope it works.
tbender
Mar 28 2007, 02:43 PM
when will the tourney course be set up?



15 of the Tourney holes will be setup today. The other three (Tourney #6-8) are going to be portables -- the basket placements should be marked.

Many thanks to Houston Park & Rec for letting us borrow the MacGregor Park baskets!!!
ching_lizard
Mar 28 2007, 03:01 PM
I just added 3 more players to the A-Pool.

I can't get out of the house to get over to the course even!!!

I'll update later but the most recent adds were:
Alex Downs
Don Wilchek
Matt Orum
james_mccaine
Mar 28 2007, 03:14 PM
Tony, do you know the answer to my questions?

Great to see Don playing. What division?
tbender
Mar 28 2007, 04:00 PM
Tony, do you know the answer to my questions?



Not until I see the course. I would imagine the blue bricks if they are playable. There may be some change with the tee conditions.
Pogis
Mar 28 2007, 04:05 PM
I just got in! YES!!!!
james_mccaine
Mar 28 2007, 04:06 PM
What about players meeting?

I know, it is posted somewhere.
tbender
Mar 28 2007, 04:34 PM
What about players meeting?

I know, it is posted somewhere.



Check-in:
7:30a-8:30a

Meeting:
9:00a


(No signups on Saturday morning...)
jakewalsdorf
Mar 28 2007, 04:53 PM
I just added 3 more players to the A-Pool.

I can't get out of the house to get over to the course even!!!

I'll update later but the most recent adds were:
Alex Downs
Don Wilchek
Matt Orum




I guess the little inspirational talks (and the practice rounds at JBP) I've had with Don over the last few weeks worked. Glad to see the old man on the players list.
atxdiscgolfer
Mar 28 2007, 06:30 PM
anyone from south Austin going down early Friday for doubles? if so I will throw down $5 for gas if I can catch a ride.
Bizzle
Mar 28 2007, 06:34 PM
5 bucks!! Haven't you seen the price of gas lately :p
atxdiscgolfer
Mar 28 2007, 06:37 PM
Post deleted by atxdiscgolfer
suemac
Mar 28 2007, 07:53 PM
Just a reminder, if you haven't signed up for the great BBQ lunch we are offering on Sunday, it's not too late.

We are raising money for the Texas Ladies who want to make Peoria in September. Please help us to provide enough support to pay their entry fees and hopefully a little bit more.

It is Smoked Brisket, Chicken & Sausage, Beans, Potato and Green Salad.............all for the small price of $5.00. The guys who are cooking for this, are awesome and donating their time (non-golfers!) :)

It can be paid for Friday, anytime Saturday, and on Sunday, the price increases to $7.

Also, both days we will have breakfast tacos and goodies for sale supporting this same worthy cause.

TIP-Texan's in Peoria

Help us represent!
Bizzle
Mar 28 2007, 08:06 PM
Anyone go out to TB Wilmont today? curious to know if they got around to mowing 1-11 and 17, 18

How bout Powell?
ching_lizard
Mar 28 2007, 11:54 PM
Yep. The Tourney course is mostly in. I think we need to put up 2-3 temporary baskets on the island holes. The Dragon's lake is all strung. The state of Texas is installed on the hill on Tourney #2.

New pin position is coming up for Willie #14. Think farther back and down the hillside...devious placement is gonna see a lot of folks scoring 6's or higher on that hole this year. Program/scorecards are gonna list it as a par 4, but at WAY over 1,000' it's going to be brutal even at a 5! Good luck folks! :D

I hope to finish getting it all strung tomorrow.

Although there was standing water out there, it seemed like it could be easily navigated around too. In other words, pretty good playing condition. All the ponds are full to the brim though.
Bizzle
Mar 28 2007, 11:58 PM
Sweet....I'll try to get out there tomorrow after work, if you need some help Larry!! Reguardless of conditions, should be a BLAST!!
ching_lizard
Mar 29 2007, 12:00 AM
WOw! Lot's of folks were burning up the phone lines today.

Magic number: 189

Entries left:
A-pool: 9 slots left
B-pool: 1 slot left
C-pool: 17 slots left

We're hearing about some occasional folks that planning on playing that haven't gotten in touch with Neal Dambra or myself yet. You better tell those folks to get in touch soon...the slots are going fast! Burl? You out there? Are you planning on playing? Call me soon before it fills!
tbender
Mar 29 2007, 12:01 AM
Way to go Larry, Conrad, Neal and everyone who helped today!
ching_lizard
Mar 29 2007, 12:04 AM
Sweet....I'll try to get out there tomorrow after work, if you need some help Larry!! Reguardless of conditions, should be a BLAST!!



Thanks Biz!

Hey! I am looking for someone to meet me out there early tomorrow morning to help me finish stringing the OB lines. Anyone? 8 or 8:30 isn't too early for me!
Bizzle
Mar 29 2007, 12:08 AM
well..don't know if I can make it that early, but its not unreasonable that I can get out there early afternoon!! Cough, Cough.....thats me rehearsing my so calle sick voice to get off tomorrow afternoon to help!! I'll get there asap!!
the_kid
Mar 29 2007, 12:11 AM
Yep. The Tourney course is mostly in. I think we need to put up 2-3 temporary baskets on the island holes. The Dragon's lake is all strung. The state of Texas is installed on the hill on Tourney #2.

New pin position is coming up for Willie #14. Think farther back and down the hillside...devious placement is gonna see a lot of folks scoring 6's or higher on that hole this year. Program/scorecards are gonna list it as a par 4, but at WAY over 1,000' it's going to be brutal even at a 5! Good luck folks! :D

I hope to finish getting it all strung tomorrow.

Although there was standing water out there, it seemed like it could be easily navigated around too. In other words, pretty good playing condition. All the ponds are full to the brim though.



It's a par 6! I am not even joking because three AWESOME shots wil give you a putt for eagle. Where are they moving the basket? I mean it is in a really good spot now.
tbender
Mar 29 2007, 12:15 AM
About 20-30' straight back from where it sits now.

Straight back = straight back on a line from where most people approach from. Righties are going to get caught on the inside of the ampitheater hill more often and have to approach/putt straight at the wetland.
tbender
Mar 29 2007, 12:23 AM
Matt O is in.

I suppose he's looking for revenge on the Dragon....
ching_lizard
Mar 29 2007, 12:50 AM
Where are they moving the basket?



If I didn't know better, I'd swear this almost sounds like whining from one of the biggest arms in Houston! :D

Here's the good news about it Matt, you can't quite see the basket from the #14 long tee! :D

A lot will depend on where you land for an approach. Most of us mere-mortals will land near the base of the hill for a decently easy upshot and then putt. If you land at the base of the hill, you'll be lucky to even see the basket from there. Us righties are gonna find it a treachorously fast green where a miss might roll you all the way to OB-land.

My advice is for everyone to brush up on their rules...if you miss a putt and it kicks OB, you might want to re-putt from your previous lie.
MicahMoonWinters
Mar 29 2007, 10:36 AM
Now all we need is last years winner "Barely Schultz"
jakewalsdorf
Mar 29 2007, 10:42 AM
For those interested in this weekends weather in Houston.

DISCUSSION...
SOME CHANGES TO THE FCST COMING UP AS MODELS MIX THINGS UP A BIT
THIS RUN. THE CURRENT SPATE OF ACTIVITY OUT WEST TO SLOWLY TRANS-
LATE EAST TODAY...STALLING JUST WNW OF THE CWA LATE THIS AFTN AS
THE ASSOCIATED UPPER TROF/LOW ALSO STALLS EAST OF THE ROCKIES. A
QUASI-STATIONARY SFC BOUNDARY TO LINGER OVER CTL TX TONIGHT WILL
LEAD TO THE POSSIBILITY OF ORGANIZED TSRA DEVELOPMENT MOVING EWD
THROUGH EARLY FRI MORNING. THEN THIS BUBBLE IN THE UPPER FLOW TO
DOUBLE BEFORE PART OF IT SPLITS/PEELS TO THE NORTH FRI. THE REST
OF IT TO DEEPEN/PRODUCE ANOTHER ROUND OF ORGANIZED PCPN FRI NITE
OUT WEST BEFORE IT FINALLY GETS ENOUGH LEGS TO MOVE EAST PUSHING
ACROSS SE TX ON SAT. DEEP MOISTURE...SFC BOUNDARY...STRONG UPPER
DYNAMICS...FAVORABLE JET PLACEMENT ALL INDICATE THAT WE WILL SEE
SOME DECENT TSRA COVERAGE/INTENSITY. SPC HAS SE TX IN ITS SIGHTS
FOR SAT. WILL ADD APPROPRIATE WORDING IN THE HWO. FOR THE REMAIN-
DER OF THE WEEKEND...A VERY BRIEF PERIOD OF SOME SLIGHTLY DRIER/
COOLER AIR ON SUN IN THE WAKE OF THE STORMS.
tbender
Mar 29 2007, 10:45 AM
For those interested in this weekends weather in Houston.

DISCUSSION...
SOME CHANGES TO THE FCST COMING UP AS MODELS MIX THINGS UP A BIT
THIS RUN. THE CURRENT SPATE OF ACTIVITY OUT WEST TO SLOWLY TRANS-
LATE EAST TODAY...STALLING JUST WNW OF THE CWA LATE THIS AFTN AS
THE ASSOCIATED UPPER TROF/LOW ALSO STALLS EAST OF THE ROCKIES. A
QUASI-STATIONARY SFC BOUNDARY TO LINGER OVER CTL TX TONIGHT WILL
LEAD TO THE POSSIBILITY OF ORGANIZED TSRA DEVELOPMENT MOVING EWD
THROUGH EARLY FRI MORNING. THEN THIS BUBBLE IN THE UPPER FLOW TO
DOUBLE BEFORE PART OF IT SPLITS/PEELS TO THE NORTH FRI. THE REST
OF IT TO DEEPEN/PRODUCE ANOTHER ROUND OF ORGANIZED PCPN FRI NITE
OUT WEST BEFORE IT FINALLY GETS ENOUGH LEGS TO MOVE EAST PUSHING
ACROSS SE TX ON SAT. DEEP MOISTURE...SFC BOUNDARY...STRONG UPPER
DYNAMICS...FAVORABLE JET PLACEMENT ALL INDICATE THAT WE WILL SEE
SOME DECENT TSRA COVERAGE/INTENSITY. SPC HAS SE TX IN ITS SIGHTS
FOR SAT. WILL ADD APPROPRIATE WORDING IN THE HWO. FOR THE REMAIN-
DER OF THE WEEKEND...A VERY BRIEF PERIOD OF SOME SLIGHTLY DRIER/
COOLER AIR ON SUN IN THE WAKE OF THE STORMS.



Is that English?
james_mccaine
Mar 29 2007, 10:47 AM
:D

Jake goes to same place I do for his weather forecast. Translation: bring the raingear on saturday.
ching_lizard
Mar 29 2007, 11:09 AM
Is it me, or does this sound a little like one of those Internet porn ads I find in my inbox from time to time?



OUT WEST BEFORE IT FINALLY GETS ENOUGH LEGS TO MOVE EAST PUSHING
ACROSS SE TX ON SAT. DEEP MOISTURE



:D
Ruben
Mar 29 2007, 11:11 AM
Coda and I are heading up there in a few hours, how is the Oak Meadow course, I played it already but is there alot of standing water?
ching_lizard
Mar 29 2007, 11:20 AM
Bannister was heading out to play it yesterday afternoon. Most of course is draining and drying pretty quickly and they've finally moved the #6 basket up and out of the swamp, so even if we've had recent rains, it should be very playable.
Ruben
Mar 29 2007, 11:23 AM
Thanks Ching, see ya soon :cool:
bigbadude
Mar 29 2007, 11:23 AM
I hope it rains cats and dogs, that will even out the field ;) But you never know with the weather. :D
ching_lizard
Mar 29 2007, 11:24 AM
No prob Ruben...see ya tomorrow.
bigbadude
Mar 29 2007, 11:26 AM
is it full yet?
Ruben
Mar 29 2007, 11:26 AM
Are you SKEERED of your DIVISION :D, :cool:
Ruben
Mar 29 2007, 11:35 AM
Allright fellas, heading out STates it is, everyone heading down have a safe trip :cool:
ching_lizard
Mar 29 2007, 11:49 AM
is it full yet?



I'm checking with a local that was supposed to hook up with me yesterday to hand me his entry fee. If I manage to connect with him, then he's got the last Advanced division slot and we'll start running a wait-list for Advanced division. Since there is currently room to move MG1 to C-pool I might swing them over to give space for one more card of MA1 players.
bigbadude
Mar 29 2007, 12:12 PM
WTF are you talking about? :mad:Old man will take you bagtag :D
vinnie
Mar 29 2007, 12:31 PM
bag tags?
who has them and who will play with them?
ching_lizard
Mar 29 2007, 12:40 PM
I just signed up the last B-pool slot. Likely that I will be opening 4 more slots though by moving MG1 into C-pool.
Bizzle
Mar 29 2007, 12:53 PM
DISCUSSION...
SOME CHANGES TO THE FCST COMING UP AS MODELS MIX THINGS UP A BIT
THIS RUN. THE CURRENT SPATE OF ACTIVITY OUT WEST TO SLOWLY TRANS-
LATE EAST TODAY...STALLING JUST WNW OF THE CWA LATE THIS AFTN AS
THE ASSOCIATED UPPER TROF/LOW ALSO STALLS EAST OF THE ROCKIES. A
QUASI-STATIONARY SFC BOUNDARY TO LINGER OVER CTL TX TONIGHT WILL
LEAD TO THE POSSIBILITY OF ORGANIZED TSRA DEVELOPMENT MOVING EWD
THROUGH EARLY FRI MORNING. THEN THIS BUBBLE IN THE UPPER FLOW TO
DOUBLE BEFORE PART OF IT SPLITS/PEELS TO THE NORTH FRI. THE REST
OF IT TO DEEPEN/PRODUCE ANOTHER ROUND OF ORGANIZED PCPN FRI NITE
OUT WEST BEFORE IT FINALLY GETS ENOUGH LEGS TO MOVE EAST PUSHING
ACROSS SE TX ON SAT. DEEP MOISTURE...SFC BOUNDARY...STRONG UPPER
DYNAMICS...FAVORABLE JET PLACEMENT ALL INDICATE THAT WE WILL SEE
SOME DECENT TSRA COVERAGE/INTENSITY. SPC HAS SE TX IN ITS SIGHTS
FOR SAT. WILL ADD APPROPRIATE WORDING IN THE HWO. FOR THE REMAIN-
DER OF THE WEEKEND...A VERY BRIEF PERIOD OF SOME SLIGHTLY DRIER/
COOLER AIR ON SUN IN THE WAKE OF THE STORMS.



Allow me to translate....

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/brycdavis/weather.jpg
suemac
Mar 29 2007, 03:58 PM
Just a reminder, if you haven't signed up for the great BBQ lunch we are offering on Sunday, it's not too late.

We are raising money for the Texas Ladies who want to make Peoria in September. Please help us to provide enough support to pay their entry fees and hopefully a little bit more.

It is Smoked Brisket, Chicken & Sausage, Beans, Potato and Green Salad.............all for the small price of $5.00. The guys who are cooking for this, are awesome and donating their time (non-golfers!) :)

It can be paid for Friday, anytime Saturday, and on Sunday, the price increases to $7.

Also, both days we will have breakfast tacos and goodies for sale supporting this same worthy cause.

TIP-Texan's in Peoria

Help us represent!
jakewalsdorf
Mar 29 2007, 04:23 PM
DISCUSSION...
SOME CHANGES TO THE FCST COMING UP AS MODELS MIX THINGS UP A BIT THIS RUN. THE CURRENT SPATE OF ACTIVITY OUT WEST TO SLOWLY TRANS-
LATE EAST TODAY...STALLING JUST WNW OF THE CWA LATE THIS AFTN AS
THE ASSOCIATED UPPER TROF/LOW ALSO STALLS EAST OF THE ROCKIES. A
QUASI-STATIONARY SFC BOUNDARY TO LINGER OVER CTL TX TONIGHT WILL
LEAD TO THE POSSIBILITY OF ORGANIZED TSRA DEVELOPMENT MOVING EWD
THROUGH EARLY FRI MORNING. THEN THIS BUBBLE IN THE UPPER FLOW TO
DOUBLE BEFORE PART OF IT SPLITS/PEELS TO THE NORTH FRI. THE REST
OF IT TO DEEPEN/PRODUCE ANOTHER ROUND OF ORGANIZED PCPN FRI NITE
OUT WEST BEFORE IT FINALLY GETS ENOUGH LEGS TO MOVE EAST PUSHING
ACROSS SE TX ON SAT. DEEP MOISTURE...SFC BOUNDARY...STRONG UPPER
DYNAMICS...FAVORABLE JET PLACEMENT ALL INDICATE THAT WE WILL SEE
SOME DECENT TSRA COVERAGE/INTENSITY. SPC HAS SE TX IN ITS SIGHTS
FOR SAT. WILL ADD APPROPRIATE WORDING IN THE HWO. FOR THE REMAIN-
DER OF THE WEEKEND...A VERY BRIEF PERIOD OF SOME SLIGHTLY DRIER/
COOLER AIR ON SUN IN THE WAKE OF THE STORMS.



Allow me to translate....

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/brycdavis/weather.jpg



May I elaborate....

SOME CHANGES TO THE FCST COMING UP AS MODELS MIX THINGS UP A BIT THIS RUN. Currently we don't know who will be crowned Texas State Champion, but we are running several models to find out...

THE CURRENT SPATE OF ACTIVITY OUT WEST TO SLOWLY TRANS-LATE EAST TODAY "Spate" funny name for players coming in from out West...

SLOWLY TRANS-LATE EAST TODAY Last chance to sign-up is today...

STALLING JUST WNW OF THE CWA LATE THIS AFTN and tomorrow if spots exist...

THE ASSOCIATED UPPER TROF/LOW ALSO STALLS EAST OF THE ROCKIES If you don't get in Texas States you could travel west and get in a tourney out there...

A
QUASI-STATIONARY SFC BOUNDARY TO LINGER OVER CTL TX TONIGHT WILL
LEAD TO THE POSSIBILITY OF ORGANIZED TSRA DEVELOPMENT MOVING EWD Players are practicing today and will compete against each other in doubles tomorrow...

THEN THIS BUBBLE IN THE UPPER FLOW Here's comes the rain???

TO
DOUBLE BEFORE PART OF IT SPLITS/PEELS TO THE NORTH FRI. Part of it goes north and part goes south

THE REST OF IT TO DEEPEN/PRODUCE ANOTHER ROUND OF ORGANIZED PCPN FRI NITE The last players are added to the players list Friday night...

OUT WEST BEFORE IT FINALLY GETS ENOUGH LEGS TO MOVE EAST PUSHING ACROSS SE TX ON SAT. The rain bubble has to sit and wait until after the 2 minute warning horn has blown before it comes across Bass...

SFC BOUNDARY...STRONG UPPER
DYNAMICS Players BEWARE of OB boundaries and gusty winds...

FAVORABLE JET PLACEMENT ALL INDICATE THAT WE WILL SEE SOME DECENT TSRA COVERAGE/INTENSITY as long as the Readings aren't grounded because of weather out East, we should see several 1000 rated rounds...

SPC HAS SE TX IN ITS SIGHTS Southernnational Pro Champion is coming to Texas with a head of steam...

FOR SAT. WILL ADD APPROPRIATE WORDING IN THE HWO. This forecaster is not making any predictions until after Saturday...

FOR THE REMAIN-
DER OF THE WEEKEND...A VERY BRIEF PERIOD OF SOME SLIGHTLY DRIER/
COOLER AIR ON SUN IN THE WAKE OF THE STORMS. It MAY rain on Saturday, but next week looks great!!!

HOPE THAT CLEARS UP ANY MISUNDERSTANDINGS ANYONE MAY HAVE HAD REGARDING MY SOURCE OF TOURNAMENT FORECAST MEDIA..
seewhere
Mar 29 2007, 04:42 PM
50% on sat and %40 on Sunday that forcast <font color="red"> SUXS</font>
tbender
Mar 29 2007, 05:07 PM
Thanks Jake!

:)
Bizzle
Mar 29 2007, 05:10 PM
Nicely done!!! :D
jparmley
Mar 29 2007, 05:28 PM
50% on sat and %40 on Sunday that forcast <font color="red"> SUXS</font>



Well, I'm glad Tom Bass drains well! Oh wait...
suemac
Mar 29 2007, 05:42 PM
I think we need to think positive, and we all know you never know with weather.
Lyle O Ross
Mar 29 2007, 06:20 PM
Last call for speed golfers for tomorrow! The course is marked and ready to go. I've got maps and will located next to Tournament Headquarters at hole #15 Tourney! I shaved a hole so we are looking at 9 holes. I'm guessing that's a 15 minute run for an average runner.

Final rules:


1. Players will be spaced out at 3 minute intervals or greater.

2. There will be a starter and each competitor will be timed from start until they cross the finish line. The start and finish lines will be located at the hole #1 Tee box

3. Each competitor will be assigned a number that determines their start position and that will be used to track them, and their strokes through the course. Keep track of your number by clipping it to your clothing!

4. On drop-ins you don't have to release the disc, only touch two chains, however, the stance must be legal, i.e. no falling putts! (a falling putt is a stroke as per the rules)

5. In the event that a player catches another on the course the player who caught the other (hereafter known as the out player) has the hole. The out player must clearly call �fore� before driving. The in player does not have to yield the hole, he simply has to avoid getting hit by the drive. In the event that the in player interferes with the thrown disc (is hit) he will receive a one stroke penalty. It is the duty of the out player to make sure the in player hears his call but it is the job of the in player to avoid the hit.
a. If both players approach the basket at the same time, the first player to their disc has the hole, the distance of the discs from the basket does not matter; however, if the players arrive at their discs simultaneously, the out player has the hole. In the event that the first player misses the putt, the second player putts before the first player putts again.
b. If both players approach the Tee at the same time, the first player to the box has the hole. However, if the players arrive at the Tee simultaneously, the out player has the Tee.

6. There is no O.B., however, a player can at their own discretion declare a disc lost and re-drive with a one stroke penalty. All �lost� discs can be picked up and remain in use. (note, this seems like a free pass, it's not, the cost is significantly more than 15 seconds)

7. There is no limit on the number of discs a player can carry (disc management is a skill).

8. Each stroke over par adds 15 seconds to your total time. If you are under par each stroke takes 15 seconds from your total time. The best time wins.

9. You may use the thrown disc as the lie or any disc in your hand to mark your lie, no mini is necessary. However, you must mark your lie. You may not place your foot where your disc was and pick it up to throw. You must mark the lie and then throw.

10. The player records their score for each hole at the Tee to the next hole! There will be a clip board at that Tee where the player can write their score. The final hole is scored at the finish line. Don't forget! The clip board will have the number of the hole you just played written on it, not the hole you are getting ready to drive from!

11. Any hole that does not have a score will be given 7 strokes so don't forget!

12. There are two divisions, Men's and Women's, cash payout will be according to the PDGA Pro tables.

13. The two meter rule is not in force.

14. A lost disc requires the player to re-drive from the Tee or lie. If the player drives and feels their disc is lost but isn't sure, they should throw a second disc and play it with a one stroke penalty.

15. This event is on the honor system. Each player is responsible for keeping track of their own score. Also, there will be officials on the course keeping track of strokes and any player caught cheating will be disqualified from the entire event.


16. The course is 9 holes long, Each Tee box has the hole number painted in orange next to it. Each basket has an arrow pointing to the next hole with the number of that hole.

17. There is $100 added cash.

18. The race is over when you slap the table next to the time keeper located at the Tee for hole #1.
cornhuskers9495
Mar 29 2007, 06:57 PM
(a falling putt is a stroke as per the rules)



Actually, it's a re-putt, if called ;)
james_mccaine
Mar 29 2007, 07:01 PM
I am positive that no amount of rain will deter me from enjoying Texas States. :D

Lightning on the other hand.... ;)
Lyle O Ross
Mar 29 2007, 09:33 PM
You're correct, first time it's a warning and a reputt, second time it's a stroke and a reputt. For this competition I am making a falling putt a stroke first time. This is simply because it will be very tempting to do it because of the nature of speed golf and I want the competitors thinking about it.

Thanks for the mention and I will give a reminder at the start!
manderson
Mar 30 2007, 12:53 AM
please, somebody tell me that I can play this weekend. If there is a spot in MM1, I will leave dallas friday morning and be in houston in the afternoon. If not, I will stay at work all friday and that would really bite!
mpetre
Mar 30 2007, 01:21 AM
Played the course with a really good guy today and it already seems on the mushy side. I see this being something like Woodstock before it's all said and done... golfers caked in mud but great times. Man I can't wait till tomorrow afternoon and the weekend! BTW, I am playing advanced and can only throw 300' on a normal day, so I am praying the rain might throw off some of the bigger arms...
cornhuskers9495
Mar 30 2007, 03:01 AM
If it's that mucky, I'm glad me and my new white rev bag won't be there...
cornhuskers9495
Mar 30 2007, 03:03 AM
You're correct, first time it's a warning and a reputt, second time it's a stroke and a reputt. For this competition I am making a falling putt a stroke first time. This is simply because it will be very tempting to do it because of the nature of speed golf and I want the competitors thinking about it.

Thanks for the mention and I will give a reminder at the start!



If it's not santioned, make any rule you want bro...

I play DG so I dont have to run...

Good luck, you ambitious SOB's
ching_lizard
Mar 30 2007, 03:23 AM
Here's the latest reg. list.

The magic count tonight is 197 registered.

Friday during doubles is the last chance to register for one of the last slots available.

Pool B is closed. There are no advanced division slots available right now and I'm accepting a wait-list.

Pool A (Pros) has 9 slots left.

Pool C (Int/Rec) has 11 slots left.

For any advanced players that might've missed the boat here, my advice is to sign up in the trophy-only division of the MPO field which costs exactly the same amount as the Advanced entry fee. Might get a chance to play with some of the hottest talent out there!

Pools:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Pool</td><td>Count
</td></tr><tr><td>A</td><td>63
</td></tr><tr><td>B</td><td>72
</td></tr><tr><td>C</td><td>61
</td></tr><tr><td>Total:</td><td>196
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>
Key:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Pool A</td><td>MPO,MPM,MPG,FPO,FPM</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Pool B</td><td>MA1,FW1,MM1,MG1</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Pool C</td><td>MA2,FW2,MA3,FW3</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Divisions:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Division</td><td>Count
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>30
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>18
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>10
</td></tr><tr><td>FPO</td><td>5
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>48
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>15
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1</td><td>5
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>41
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>17
</td></tr><tr><td>FW3</td><td>3
</td></tr><tr><td>MG1</td><td>4
</td></tr><tr><td>FW2</td><td>0
</td></tr><tr><td>FPM</td><td>0
</td></tr><tr><td>Total All:</td><td>196
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>
suemac
Mar 30 2007, 10:18 AM
Just a reminder, if you haven't signed up for the great BBQ lunch we are offering on Sunday, it's not too late.

We are raising money for the Texas Ladies who want to make Peoria in September. Please help us to provide enough support to pay their entry fees and hopefully a little bit more.

It is Smoked Brisket, Chicken & Sausage, Beans, Potato and Green Salad.............all for the small price of $5.00. The guys who are cooking for this, are awesome and donating their time (non-golfers!) :)

It can be paid for Friday, anytime Saturday, and on Sunday, the price increases to $7.

Also, both days we will have breakfast tacos and goodies for sale supporting this same worthy cause.

TIP-Texan's in Peoria

Help us represent!



Last time to post. Once again, a great meal for a good cause, we smoked a bunch of brisket yesterday and oh boy, the food is going to be sweet!

Sign up when you check in, and for those driving, be careful on the road!
ching_lizard
Mar 30 2007, 10:23 AM
A HUGE shout of thanks goes out to Matt Hall's dad, Lois Hall for the fantastic job he did of mowing grass on many of the Powell temporary holes.

What a treat it was to have a disc golfer do the mowing out there. The lawn-cut follows the fairways, and a nice little path has been cut from the baskets to the next tee box!

Thanks to Steve DuFrane for the lawnmower and for dragging it down to the course for us!

Thanks guys!!!!
jakewalsdorf
Mar 30 2007, 10:31 AM
A HUGE shout of thanks goes out to Matt Hall's dad, Lois Hall for the fantastic job he did of mowing grass on many of the Powell temporary holes.

What a treat it was to have a disc golfer do the mowing out there. The lawn-cut follows the fairways, and a nice little path has been cut from the baskets to the next tee box!

Thanks to Steve DuFrane for the lawnmower and for dragging it down to the course for us!

Thanks guys!!!!




That Louis; he's grapping all the course karma.

Glad he has moved up to the really old dudes division.
seewhere
Mar 30 2007, 11:08 AM
he's grapping

what the hell is grapping??? :D did you mean grabbing you surfing bonehead :eek:
suemac
Mar 30 2007, 11:22 AM
Remember, Jake only knows Cajun.

bEtTer ThAN soME OtHerS cOmMunICaTIoNs. ;)
seeker
Mar 30 2007, 11:28 AM
Thanks LOUIS and STEVE !! Leave the TX hole about shin-deep for me, though. :D
30142
Mar 30 2007, 11:34 AM
will there be caddy books this year?
suemac
Mar 30 2007, 11:42 AM
No caddie book this year, we were quite lucky that Nez made that happen last year!
jakewalsdorf
Mar 30 2007, 11:42 AM
he's grapping

what the hell is grapping??? :D did you mean grabbing you surfing bonehead :eek:



ever heard of being dyslectic... Well, same thing just upside down lectic. :confused:
jakewalsdorf
Mar 30 2007, 01:51 PM
Weather is looking good for today Friday(as long as you like the wind)... Saturday a front line will move through the area(when is the question), bringing rain and thunder (unless the energy of the front slips north prior to arriving in Houston. The wind will switch out of the North and drier air will prefail. Sunday will be sweet (just sloppy)!
odd_enough
Mar 30 2007, 02:46 PM
looks like I need to return the hip waders!! If ATX rain is any indication I will need the chest wadders! :)
mpetre
Mar 31 2007, 01:22 AM
I played doubles with a great guy that we are hosting today (The_Natural) and had a great time. The wind however was another story for my game. If I'm not in that last slot after advanced are finished playing tomorrow, I'll be a very happer non-bagger. BTW, the Readings are some of the nicest pros I've ever met...
ching_lizard
Mar 31 2007, 03:49 AM
The final magic count is: 202 !!!

It's showtime in the morning...I'd post the final reg. list but I'm beat. I'll get results up tomorrow night.

Good luck everyone! Have a blast!
yobyug
Mar 31 2007, 07:28 AM
ATX . . . . rOllIng OUT . . . . . . . nO sleep ! ! ! rAre fOrM . . . . .zOOM zOOM zOOM ! ! ! :D:D:D


bRIng YOUr . . . . . .eArplUgs ! ! ! ! :p :p :p
jdavidson
Mar 31 2007, 08:24 AM
The storm is moving over Katy right now... Looking at the radar, the storm seems to have picked up speed, hopefully it will move over Bass quickly.
Bizzle
Mar 31 2007, 11:02 PM
Well.......did everyone survive with minimal ant bites? I have about 12 between both my ankle's.

Looks like the weather tomorrow should be aight....High 83.....10% chance of rain! Should be MUCH better!! Bring the bug spray!!
seewhere
Mar 31 2007, 11:16 PM
how about some tee times.. :D:p

GO FLORIDA
Joe
Mar 31 2007, 11:23 PM
Scores?
Bizzle
Mar 31 2007, 11:39 PM
Yes....tee times....need sleepy!!! Hurry!! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
ching_lizard
Mar 31 2007, 11:46 PM
Here's the results so far - with tee times for tomorrow's round listed.

<table border="1"><tr><td> Division</td><td>Rank</td><td>Tee Time</td><td>Pool 1</td><td>Pool 2</td><td>First Name</td><td>Last Name</td><td>PDGA#</td><td>R1</td><td>R2</td><td>R3</td><td>Total
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>1</td><td>12:06</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Coda</td><td>Hatfield</td><td>23651</td><td>48</td><td>46</td><td></td><td>94
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>2</td><td>12:06</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Eric</td><td>McCabe</td><td>11674</td><td>48</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>99
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>3</td><td>12:06</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Jim</td><td>Davidson</td><td>16715</td><td>51</td><td>50</td><td></td><td>101
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>4</td><td>12:06</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Matt</td><td>Orum</td><td>18330</td><td>54</td><td>49</td><td></td><td>103
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>5</td><td>11:57</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Kevin</td><td>McCoy</td><td>9453</td><td>53</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>104
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T6</td><td>11:57</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>J.D.</td><td>Ramirez</td><td>19857</td><td>56</td><td>49</td><td></td><td>105
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T6</td><td>11:57</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Robert</td><td>Bratten</td><td>21541</td><td>49</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>105
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T8</td><td>11:48</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Nathan</td><td>Bitner</td><td>18028</td><td>53</td><td>53</td><td></td><td>106
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T8</td><td>11:48</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Glen</td><td>Oliviero</td><td>6905</td><td>53</td><td>53</td><td></td><td>106
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T8</td><td>11:48</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Steven</td><td>Hemmeline</td><td>23569</td><td>51</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>106
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T8</td><td>11:48</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Paul</td><td>Testa</td><td>20939</td><td>49</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>106
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T12</td><td>11:39</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Dixon</td><td>Jowers</td><td>17583</td><td>57</td><td>50</td><td></td><td>107
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T12</td><td>11:39</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Cory</td><td>Sharp</td><td>24270</td><td>51</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>107
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T14</td><td>11:39</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Jay</td><td>Reading</td><td>15864</td><td>56</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>108
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T14</td><td>11:39</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Chris</td><td>Farnham</td><td>17686</td><td>51</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>108
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>16</td><td>11:30</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Matt</td><td>Hall</td><td>18133</td><td>55</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>109
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T17</td><td>11:30</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Alex</td><td>Downs</td><td>15217</td><td>57</td><td>53</td><td></td><td>110
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T17</td><td>11:30</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Christopher</td><td>Albert</td><td>15494</td><td>54</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>110
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T19</td><td>11:30</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Paul</td><td>Ulibarri</td><td>27171</td><td>57</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>111
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T19</td><td>11:21</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Jose</td><td>Ossa</td><td>28268</td><td>57</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>111
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T19</td><td>11:21</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Michael</td><td>Ynfante</td><td>15596</td><td>55</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>111
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T19</td><td>11:21</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Richard</td><td>Evans IV</td><td>21720</td><td>54</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>111
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>T19</td><td>11:21</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Mike</td><td>Olse</td><td>19362</td><td>53</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>111
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>24</td><td>11:12</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Robert</td><td>Lowrie</td><td>26322</td><td>59</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>114
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>25</td><td>11:12</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Shawn</td><td>Galloway</td><td></td><td>58</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>116
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>26</td><td>11:12</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Chris</td><td>Rogers</td><td>24042</td><td>57</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>117
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>27</td><td>11:12</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>James</td><td>Donohoe</td><td>23292</td><td>62</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>118
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>28</td><td>11:03</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Ruben</td><td>Campos Jr.</td><td>14515</td><td>59</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>119
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>29</td><td>11:03</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Russ</td><td>Williams</td><td>28102</td><td>62</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>121
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>30</td><td>11:03</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Kenny</td><td>Glaze</td><td>9845</td><td>60</td><td>64</td><td></td><td>124
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>31</td><td>11:03</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Robert</td><td>Gomez</td><td>26757</td><td>76</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>136
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>1</td><td>10:36</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Zack</td><td>Walker</td><td>21127</td><td>54</td><td>50</td><td></td><td>104
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>2</td><td>10:36</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Joel</td><td>Kelly</td><td>9152</td><td>51</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>106
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>T3</td><td>10:36</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Chris</td><td>Ware</td><td>12970</td><td>51</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>107
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>T3</td><td>10:36</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Marcus</td><td>Roberts</td><td>7729</td><td>51</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>107
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>T3</td><td>10:27</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Jeff</td><td>Cooper</td><td>4273</td><td>50</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>107
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>T3</td><td>10:27</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Alex</td><td>Hughes</td><td>5923</td><td>49</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>107
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>7</td><td>10:27</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Jerry</td><td>Perez</td><td>9957</td><td>55</td><td>53</td><td></td><td>108
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>8</td><td>10:27</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Vincent</td><td>Miller</td><td>5521</td><td>53</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>109
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>9</td><td>10:18</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>James</td><td>McCaine</td><td>4206</td><td>54</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>110
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>10</td><td>10:18</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Jim</td><td>Hudson</td><td>10538</td><td>55</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>113
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>11</td><td>10:18</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Bryan</td><td>Motley</td><td>11571</td><td>57</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>114
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>12</td><td>10:09</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>J. S.</td><td>Fosdick</td><td>6110</td><td>60</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>116
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>T13</td><td>10:09</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Jay</td><td>Bitner</td><td>17759</td><td>61</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>117
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>T13</td><td>10:09</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Jeff "Stimpy"</td><td>Moore</td><td>5763</td><td>59</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>117
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>15</td><td>10:00</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Richard</td><td>Gutzman</td><td>13883</td><td>60</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>118
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>16</td><td>10:00</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Jake</td><td>Walsdorf</td><td>15467</td><td>64</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>119
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>17</td><td>10:00</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Ron</td><td>Klein</td><td>6950</td><td>62</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>123
</td></tr><tr><td>FPO</td><td>1</td><td>10:45</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Des</td><td>Reading</td><td></td><td>57</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>113
</td></tr><tr><td>FPO</td><td>2</td><td>10:45</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Carrie</td><td>Burlogar</td><td></td><td>56</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>117
</td></tr><tr><td>FPO</td><td>3</td><td>10:45</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Courtney</td><td>Peavy</td><td></td><td>58</td><td>67</td><td></td><td>125
</td></tr><tr><td>FPO</td><td>4</td><td>10:45</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Emily</td><td>Lawrence</td><td></td><td>62</td><td>65</td><td></td><td>127
</td></tr><tr><td>FPO</td><td>5</td><td>10:45</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Melinda</td><td>Ring</td><td></td><td>69</td><td>66</td><td></td><td>135
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>T1</td><td>09:51</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Neal</td><td>Dambra</td><td>200</td><td>55</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>109
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>T1</td><td>09:51</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Mark</td><td>Bowman</td><td>20495</td><td>51</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>109
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>3</td><td>09:51</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Glen</td><td>Hale</td><td>2461</td><td>61</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>117
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>T4</td><td>09:51</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Barton</td><td>Taylor</td><td>22435</td><td>63</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>120
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>T4</td><td>09:42</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Lance</td><td>Steck</td><td>28761</td><td>61</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>120
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>T4</td><td>09:42</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Larry</td><td>Owen</td><td>2801</td><td>58</td><td>62</td><td></td><td>120
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>7</td><td>09:42</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Larry</td><td>Thompson</td><td>20095</td><td>62</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>121
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>8</td><td>09:33</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Richard L</td><td>Lewis</td><td>15057</td><td>62</td><td>62</td><td></td><td>124
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>T9</td><td>09:33</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Louis</td><td>Hall</td><td>18132</td><td>70</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>129
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>T9</td><td>09:33</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Robby</td><td>Beach</td><td>2775</td><td>66</td><td>63</td><td></td><td>129
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>1</td><td>11:39</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Erik</td><td>Soete</td><td>30197</td><td>52</td><td>53</td><td></td><td>105
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>2</td><td>11:39</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Charles</td><td>Worster</td><td>32167</td><td>57</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>108
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>3</td><td>11:39</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Chris</td><td>Cortez</td><td>25486</td><td>57</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>109
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T4</td><td>11:39</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Michael</td><td>Brownlow</td><td>28097</td><td>58</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>113
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T4</td><td>11:30</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Andrew</td><td>Wade</td><td>16039</td><td>55</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>113
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>6</td><td>11:30</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Derek</td><td>Henry</td><td>23032</td><td>59</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>114
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T7</td><td>11:30</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Casey</td><td>Guthrie</td><td>28668</td><td>60</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>115
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T7</td><td>11:21</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Marty</td><td>Cooper</td><td>24656</td><td>59</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>115
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T7</td><td>11:21</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Ruben</td><td>Hernandez</td><td>29883</td><td>59</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>115
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>10</td><td>11:21</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Christian</td><td>Goddard</td><td>28166</td><td>61</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>116
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T11</td><td>11:12</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Joe</td><td>Herndon</td><td>23284</td><td>59</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>117
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T11</td><td>11:12</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Robert</td><td>Parrish</td><td>27658</td><td>57</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>117
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T13</td><td>11:12</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Guillermo</td><td>Avalos</td><td>26691</td><td>64</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>118
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T13</td><td>11:12</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Brian</td><td>Pearson</td><td>13723</td><td>57</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>118
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T15</td><td>11:03</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Scott</td><td>Coleman</td><td>24594</td><td>60</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>119
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T15</td><td>11:03</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Cody</td><td>Wetzold</td><td>32178</td><td>60</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>119
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T15</td><td>11:03</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>James</td><td>Gorman</td><td></td><td>59</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>119
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T18</td><td>11:03</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Trey</td><td>Clarkson</td><td>28101</td><td>64</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>120
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T18</td><td>10:54</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Miles</td><td>Seaborn</td><td>29264</td><td>58</td><td>62</td><td></td><td>120
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>20</td><td>10:54</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Matthew</td><td>Pratt</td><td>31122</td><td>66</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>121
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T21</td><td>10:54</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Kevin</td><td>Willis</td><td>29247</td><td>68</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>122
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T21</td><td>10:54</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Joel</td><td>Greer</td><td>23663</td><td>63</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>122
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T21</td><td>10:45</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Matt </td><td>Odenwelder</td><td>31710</td><td>62</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>122
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T21</td><td>10:45</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Ian</td><td>Aymami</td><td>29826</td><td>61</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>122
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T25</td><td>10:45</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Guy</td><td>Boyan</td><td>27442</td><td>66</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>123
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T25</td><td>10:45</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Jay "Jay-Bird"</td><td>Perry</td><td>22834</td><td>64</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>123
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T25</td><td>10:36</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Jason</td><td>Wynne</td><td>17906</td><td>64</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>123
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T25</td><td>10:36</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Chris</td><td>Garcia</td><td>23147</td><td>63</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>123
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T25</td><td>10:36</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Raymond</td><td>Pereida</td><td>14910</td><td>63</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>123
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>30</td><td>10:36</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Micah</td><td>Moon Winters</td><td>16033</td><td>60</td><td>64</td><td></td><td>124
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>31</td><td>10:27</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Edward</td><td>Roberts</td><td>19927</td><td>65</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>126
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>32</td><td>10:27</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Don</td><td>Young</td><td>25749</td><td>62</td><td>65</td><td></td><td>127
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>33</td><td>10:27</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Tony</td><td>Bender</td><td>19088</td><td>69</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>128
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>34</td><td>10:27</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Tres</td><td>Van Dusen</td><td>31712</td><td>68</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>129
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T35</td><td>10:18</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Keith</td><td>Russom</td><td>29728</td><td>70</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>130
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T35</td><td>10:18</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Brad</td><td>Wells</td><td>16463</td><td>68</td><td>62</td><td></td><td>130
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T35</td><td>10:18</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Leon</td><td>Gillard IV</td><td>24336</td><td>65</td><td>65</td><td></td><td>130
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T35</td><td>10:18</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Paul</td><td>Williams</td><td>24252</td><td>64</td><td>66</td><td></td><td>130
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T39</td><td>10:09</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Garin</td><td>Wootton</td><td>22902</td><td>69</td><td>62</td><td></td><td>131
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T39</td><td>10:09</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>John</td><td>Ledesma</td><td></td><td>66</td><td>65</td><td></td><td>131
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>T39</td><td>10:09</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Robert</td><td>Moody</td><td>32404</td><td>66</td><td>65</td><td></td><td>131
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>42</td><td>10:09</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Benjamin</td><td>Raley</td><td>23929</td><td>73</td><td>62</td><td></td><td>135
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>43</td><td>10:00</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Dusty</td><td>Basnett</td><td>13155</td><td>81</td><td>68</td><td></td><td>149
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>44</td><td>10:00</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Matthew</td><td>Petre</td><td>31261</td><td>78</td><td>78</td><td></td><td>156
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>45</td><td>10:00</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Tim</td><td>Egan</td><td>68</td><td>73</td><td>999</td><td></td><td>1072
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>46</td><td>10:00</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Matthew</td><td>Oaks</td><td>18532</td><td>75</td><td>999</td><td></td><td>1074
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>47</td><td></td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Casey</td><td>Cox</td><td>29737</td><td>999</td><td>999</td><td></td><td>1998
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>1</td><td>09:33</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Randy</td><td>Roland</td><td>21324</td><td>59</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>113
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>2</td><td>09:33</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Mark</td><td>McCoin</td><td>20315</td><td>63</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>120
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>3</td><td>09:33</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Dieter</td><td>Neumann</td><td>19215</td><td>63</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>124
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>T4</td><td>09:33</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Todd</td><td>Golden</td><td>21411</td><td>66</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>125
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>T4</td><td>09:24</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Michael</td><td>Brockmyre</td><td>21191</td><td>65</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>125
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>6</td><td>09:24</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Mike</td><td>Ware</td><td>21211</td><td>67</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>128
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>7</td><td>09:24</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Bruce</td><td>Hernandez</td><td>23821</td><td>68</td><td>63</td><td></td><td>131
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>8</td><td>09:15</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Jimbo</td><td>Slusher</td><td>14914</td><td>69</td><td>66</td><td></td><td>135
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>9</td><td>09:15</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Steven</td><td>Sharp</td><td>18105</td><td>74</td><td>63</td><td></td><td>137
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>10</td><td>09:15</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Robert</td><td>Schroeder</td><td>16164</td><td>71</td><td>67</td><td></td><td>138
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>T11</td><td>09:06</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Steven</td><td>Ronberg</td><td>29736</td><td>74</td><td>66</td><td></td><td>140
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>T11</td><td>09:06</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Chuck</td><td>Davis</td><td>22485</td><td>71</td><td>69</td><td></td><td>140
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>13</td><td>09:06</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Steve </td><td>Dufrane</td><td>13317</td><td>73</td><td>71</td><td></td><td>144
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>14</td><td>09:06</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Cecil</td><td>Larkin</td><td>15526</td><td>60</td><td>88</td><td></td><td>148
</td></tr><tr><td>MM1</td><td>15</td><td></td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Nick</td><td>Repar</td><td>17273</td><td>999</td><td></td><td>999
</td></tr><tr><td>MG1</td><td>1</td><td>08:48</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Jan</td><td>Baumgardner</td><td>22361</td><td>72</td><td>64</td><td></td><td>136
</td></tr><tr><td>MG1</td><td>2</td><td>08:48</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>William</td><td>Wade</td><td>14932</td><td>71</td><td>67</td><td></td><td>138
</td></tr><tr><td>MG1</td><td>3</td><td>08:48</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Chuck</td><td>Conaway</td><td>26117</td><td>73</td><td>72</td><td></td><td>145
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1</td><td>1</td><td>09:42</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Liz</td><td>Lopez</td><td>31162</td><td>80</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>141
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1</td><td>2</td><td>09:42</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Jennifer</td><td>Beazley</td><td>21089</td><td>76</td><td>68</td><td></td><td>144
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1</td><td>3</td><td>09:42</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Jennifer</td><td>Perry</td><td>23321</td><td>79</td><td>70</td><td></td><td>149
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1</td><td>4</td><td>09:42</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Cassie</td><td>Barrera</td><td>22477</td><td>76</td><td>80</td><td></td><td>156
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1</td><td>T5</td><td></td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Carla</td><td>Dahlberg</td><td>32613</td><td>999</td><td></td><td>999
</td></tr><tr><td>FW1</td><td>T5</td><td></td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Patricia</td><td>Stallman</td><td>25543</td><td>999</td><td></td><td>999
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>1</td><td>09:06</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>James</td><td>Rogers</td><td>28093</td><td>55</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>115
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>2</td><td>09:06</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Thomas</td><td>Guillot</td><td>32483</td><td>59</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>118
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>3</td><td>09:06</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Benjamin</td><td>Avalos</td><td>30465</td><td>57</td><td>62</td><td></td><td>119
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>4</td><td>09:06</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Edward</td><td>Schmidt</td><td>25614</td><td>59</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>120
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>5</td><td>08:57</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Dustin</td><td>Vorse</td><td></td><td>57</td><td>64</td><td></td><td>121
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T6</td><td>08:57</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Mark</td><td>Ludwig</td><td>23972</td><td>61</td><td>63</td><td></td><td>124
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T6</td><td>08:57</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Andreas</td><td>Aya</td><td>28655</td><td>60</td><td>64</td><td></td><td>124
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>8</td><td>08:57</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Chris</td><td>Caldwell</td><td>25612</td><td>59</td><td>66</td><td></td><td>125
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T9</td><td>08:48</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Charles</td><td>Stoker</td><td></td><td>66</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>126
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T9</td><td>08:48</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Brian</td><td>Sudderth</td><td>31369</td><td>64</td><td>62</td><td></td><td>126
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T9</td><td>08:48</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Wallace</td><td>Hall</td><td>29294</td><td>63</td><td>63</td><td></td><td>126
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T9</td><td>08:48</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Ryan</td><td>Gatten</td><td></td><td>62</td><td>64</td><td></td><td>126
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T9</td><td>08:39</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Jeremy</td><td>Grange</td><td>28180</td><td>61</td><td>65</td><td></td><td>126
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T9</td><td>08:39</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Chris</td><td>Oravetz</td><td>30142</td><td>59</td><td>67</td><td></td><td>126
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T15</td><td>08:39</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Shawn</td><td>Smith</td><td></td><td>62</td><td>65</td><td></td><td>127
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T15</td><td>08:39</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Brandon</td><td>Hart</td><td></td><td>61</td><td>66</td><td></td><td>127
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T15</td><td>08:30</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Tim</td><td>Engebretson</td><td>32194</td><td>61</td><td>66</td><td></td><td>127
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T18</td><td>08:30</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Seth</td><td>Johnson</td><td>32210</td><td>62</td><td>66</td><td></td><td>128
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T18</td><td>08:30</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Robert</td><td>Phillips</td><td>29086</td><td>61</td><td>67</td><td></td><td>128
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>20</td><td>08:30</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Rene</td><td>Garza</td><td></td><td>60</td><td>70</td><td></td><td>130
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T21</td><td>08:30</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Glen</td><td>Russell</td><td>30057</td><td>64</td><td>67</td><td></td><td>131
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T21</td><td>08:21</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Phillip</td><td>Haik</td><td>25935</td><td>62</td><td>69</td><td></td><td>131
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T21</td><td>08:21</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Matt</td><td>Andersen</td><td>29246</td><td>61</td><td>70</td><td></td><td>131
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T21</td><td>08:21</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Joseph</td><td>Boldt</td><td>32535</td><td>60</td><td>71</td><td></td><td>131
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T25</td><td>08:21</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>David</td><td>Teague</td><td>31619</td><td>66</td><td>66</td><td></td><td>132
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T25</td><td>08:12</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Chris</td><td>Armintor</td><td>25604</td><td>64</td><td>68</td><td></td><td>132
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T25</td><td>08:12</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Michael</td><td>Solis</td><td>30806</td><td>60</td><td>72</td><td></td><td>132
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T25</td><td>08:12</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Jeffrey</td><td>Klam</td><td>32458</td><td>59</td><td>73</td><td></td><td>132
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T29</td><td>08:12</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Jay</td><td>Robbins</td><td>30551</td><td>67</td><td>66</td><td></td><td>133
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T29</td><td>08:03</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Matthew</td><td>Stillwagon</td><td>32292</td><td>59</td><td>74</td><td></td><td>133
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T31</td><td>08:03</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Mike</td><td>Axline</td><td>30755</td><td>65</td><td>69</td><td></td><td>134
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T31</td><td>08:03</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Chris</td><td>Ray</td><td>29513</td><td>64</td><td>70</td><td></td><td>134
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>33</td><td>08:03</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Jeff</td><td>Hicks</td><td>32574</td><td>66</td><td>70</td><td></td><td>136
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>34</td><td>07:54</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Richard</td><td>Striebel</td><td></td><td>70</td><td>67</td><td></td><td>137
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>35</td><td>07:54</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Kenneth</td><td>Roycroft</td><td>19982</td><td>66</td><td>72</td><td></td><td>138
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T36</td><td>07:54</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Max</td><td>Ochoa</td><td>31380</td><td>71</td><td>68</td><td></td><td>139
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T36</td><td>07:45</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Geoff</td><td>Mysorski</td><td>26491</td><td>66</td><td>73</td><td></td><td>139
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>38</td><td>07:45</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Robert</td><td>Biehle</td><td>19239</td><td>83</td><td>65</td><td></td><td>148
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>39</td><td>07:45</td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Jake</td><td>Madrid</td><td>29584</td><td>68</td><td>999</td><td></td><td>1067
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T40</td><td></td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Alan</td><td>Wang</td><td>12902</td><td>999</td><td>999</td><td></td><td>1998
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T40</td><td></td><td>West</td><td></td><td>JonJon</td><td>Daniels</td><td>32579</td><td>999</td><td>999</td><td></td><td>1998
</td></tr><tr><td>MA2</td><td>T40</td><td></td><td>West</td><td></td><td>Matt</td><td>Stevens</td><td></td><td>999</td><td>999</td><td></td><td>1998
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>1</td><td>08:30</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Jerry</td><td>Cloud</td><td></td><td>59</td><td>66</td><td></td><td>125
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>2</td><td>08:30</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Chad</td><td>Abston</td><td>32379</td><td>64</td><td>64</td><td></td><td>128
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>3</td><td>08:30</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Kevin</td><td>Avila</td><td>31618</td><td>60</td><td>69</td><td></td><td>129
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>4</td><td>08:30</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Brad</td><td>Lederer</td><td>28482</td><td>64</td><td>70</td><td></td><td>134
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>T5</td><td>08:21</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>De \'Atra</td><td>Hunter</td><td>18666</td><td>62</td><td>74</td><td></td><td>136
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>T5</td><td>08:21</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Randy</td><td>Samora</td><td>19909</td><td>62</td><td>74</td><td></td><td>136
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>T7</td><td>08:21</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Andi</td><td>Lehmann</td><td>2094</td><td>69</td><td>68</td><td></td><td>137
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>T7</td><td>08:12</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Rob</td><td>Matchett</td><td>23865</td><td>66</td><td>71</td><td></td><td>137
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>T7</td><td>08:12</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Micke</td><td>Cheramie</td><td>32489</td><td>61</td><td>76</td><td></td><td>137
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>T10</td><td>08:12</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Martin</td><td>Berry</td><td></td><td>69</td><td>69</td><td></td><td>138
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>T10</td><td>08:12</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>David</td><td>Currey</td><td>21426</td><td>66</td><td>72</td><td></td><td>138
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>12</td><td>08:03</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Billy</td><td>Gilbert</td><td>31520</td><td>69</td><td>71</td><td></td><td>140
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>13</td><td>08:03</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Troy</td><td>Herman</td><td>32289</td><td>70</td><td>72</td><td></td><td>142
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>14</td><td>08:03</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Eric</td><td>Bieber</td><td>32488</td><td>68</td><td>77</td><td></td><td>145
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>15</td><td>08:03</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>John</td><td>Gold</td><td>32531</td><td>68</td><td>78</td><td></td><td>146
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>16</td><td>07:54</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Robert</td><td>Reynolds</td><td></td><td>71</td><td>78</td><td></td><td>149
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>17</td><td>07:54</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Bryan</td><td>Davis</td><td>31799</td><td>73</td><td>77</td><td></td><td>150
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>18</td><td>07:54</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Terry</td><td>Rundle</td><td>32560</td><td>72</td><td>79</td><td></td><td>151
</td></tr><tr><td>MA3</td><td>19</td><td></td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Salvador</td><td>Avalos</td><td>31985</td><td>999</td><td></td><td>999
</td></tr><tr><td>FW3</td><td>1</td><td>07:45</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Sarah</td><td>Buchanan</td><td>29029</td><td>77</td><td>74</td><td></td><td>151
</td></tr><tr><td>FW3</td><td>2</td><td>07:45</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Tracy</td><td>Petre</td><td>31262</td><td>81</td><td>87</td><td></td><td>168
</td></tr><tr><td>FW3</td><td>3</td><td>07:45</td><td>East</td><td></td><td>Cheryl</td><td>Floyed</td><td>32561</td><td>92</td><td>96</td><td></td><td>188
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>
the_kid
Apr 01 2007, 12:20 AM
Larry is the 2nd MPO card supposed to have 3 people? Just trying to help if not. :D
Bizzle
Apr 01 2007, 12:32 AM
soo....everyone is starting on 1?
ching_lizard
Apr 01 2007, 01:56 AM
Yes Bizzle...

The East Course's starting hole is right by the main HQ building.

The West course's starting hole is Wilmont's #1.

All players should report to their appropriate East/West starting hole at their reported tee time. Your names will be called, and each thrower gets to tee off. If the card has at least 3 players show up on time, they will be sent on. We will do our best to merge and patch missing cards together in cases where people are there at tee off time.

Therefore, it is always advisable to get there early!!! :D

Good weather forecast for tomorrow after all the crap we got hit with today.

My Hero would be killing everyone in Open on a day like today! Just his kind of playing conditions.
magilla
Apr 01 2007, 02:03 AM
Larry is the 2nd MPO card supposed to have 3 people? Just trying to help if not. :D



It looks like they left the -8's together and the 9's a 3-some :p
ching_lizard
Apr 01 2007, 02:10 AM
The weather didn't cooperate with us very much this year. :(

The rain started around 5:30 this morning. Severe thunderstorms. Nice. The phone started ringing with cancellations at 6:30. We continued to get pounded with rain through most of the players meeting.

We delayed the start until about 10:15, sent everyone out, and then had to call everyone back! Crap!

Keep watching the forecast...all night if necessary!!!
Apr 01 2007, 03:07 AM
Go cold toe go!

Bring it home to funkytown
the_kid
Apr 01 2007, 03:19 AM
Larry is the 2nd MPO card supposed to have 3 people? Just trying to help if not. :D



It looks like they left the -8's together and the 9's a 3-some :p



so they will have four? :confused: :D
mitchjustice
Apr 01 2007, 10:29 AM
I heard the real reason the first round was delayed was that the number one masters player in the world was running late...and all it took was a phone call to the TD :D
my_hero
Apr 01 2007, 06:48 PM
I heard the real reason the first round was delayed was that the number one masters player in the world was running late...and all it took was a phone call to the TD :D



LMAO!.....

Seen any floating ant colonies this year?
seeker
Apr 01 2007, 08:39 PM
Thanks, Dave Nesbitt, Larry Kruse, Conrad Joe, Ed Morgan, Susan Macaluso, Roger Blair, Jack Camp, Steve Dufrane, Louis Hall and many others for a great tournament !!!!!
seewhere
Apr 01 2007, 10:12 PM
Thanks, Dave Nesbitt, Larry Kruse, Conrad Joe, Ed Morgan, Susan Macaluso, Roger Blair, Jack Camp, Steve Dufrane, Louis Hall and many others for a great tournament

Ditto AWESOME job by HOUSTON!!

here is a sample of the conditins we played in today with no rain..

this is the leader card on # 4's fairway on the Tourney course. Only 1 birdie on the hole.. Jim davidson

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3443/picture004jc3.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2716/picture006bg1.jpg

:D
esalazar
Apr 01 2007, 10:30 PM
who won??
seeker
Apr 01 2007, 10:59 PM
I know that Neal Dambra did one heck of a lot of work and then managed to win Pro Grandmasters... Way to go Neal, I'll bet it's a 4 Ibuprophen night! Thanks Don Wilchek, too.

Winners that I remember

MPM Zack, the flick, Walker from Phoenix
MA1 Eric Soete, from Houston
FA1 Jennifer Beazley, from League City TX
MM1 Randy Roland, from Friendswood, TX
MA3 Jerry Cloud, from Dickinson?, TX
ching_lizard
Apr 01 2007, 11:02 PM
Wow! Cool pix Seeware! Glad the sun was out when you took them! LoL!


Final Results and payout has been posted up along with final round ratings. You can view them by clicking here!!! (or over here too.) (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6264&amp;year=2007&amp;incl udeRatings=1#Open)
seeker
Apr 01 2007, 11:05 PM
Oh, yeah Jim Davidson really represented. Way to go Jim! :)
ck34
Apr 01 2007, 11:12 PM
Ching, you going to do the course assignments tomorrow so the ratings calculate properly?
seewhere
Apr 01 2007, 11:18 PM
think that is cool you should check out this :D

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4240/picture026qt5.jpg
rolo14
Apr 01 2007, 11:39 PM
Cool car! Whose is it? :D

Are those round ratings screwy? I can't believe nobody in open busted a 1000 rating in the final round....I'm guessing those ratings were formulated with all divisions together?

Anyhoo, thanks to TD &amp; staff for a great job!
seeker
Apr 01 2007, 11:40 PM
Larry might sleep right through tomorrow after the weekend he put in.
ching_lizard
Apr 01 2007, 11:46 PM
On behalf of a whole lot of HFDS Club members that all pulled together to make this happen, we thank you. We are all so pleased that in spite of the weather, everyone had a great time. That is what makes it worthwhile doing! I was only one cog out of the many that made this event tick! (without ticking any players off! :D)

* * * * * * * * * * * * *

I have a great tale to tell about the final playoff in the Masters division between two guys I like a lot: Jeff "Coop!" Cooper and Zack Walker a first time visitor playing in his very first Texas States after flying in from Arizona.

Jeff had the lead by 4 throws after the first round, but Zack came back with hot round and took the lead by 3 throws after the second round. In the final 24-hole round, Jeff bested him by 3 throws to tie it all up at 184. So it headed into playoff.

I followed the guys out to our announced 4-hole sudden-death playoff course. The Texas hole! Jeff makes an excellent throw about 8' straight down-hill from the basket. Zack hurls a forehand which hyzers out a bit at the end and leaves him laying at about Houston on the state. Zack's now looking at an uphill diagonal shot from 30-35' with a 10mph cross-wind knowing that Jeff has almost a drop-in putt.

Without flinching he canned the putt for a push.

Next hole was to throw from the top of the hill to the basket in front of the lake. Coop goes for basket and misses wide right and splashes into the OB lake 12' behind. Zack throws a rare backhand and his disc goes stable and gets pushed off the line by the crosswind from their right. Zack is short by about 50'. Zack makes his throw almost directly into the headwind, but it's a layup instead of a real putt. He's playing smart strategy forcing Coop to have to sink his putt. I gave Coop is mark on the OB string where his disc went in, and Coop slams one into the chains for an amazing circle-3. Zack pushes.

At the third play-off hole, neither had particularly stellar drives. Both laid up on their 2nd throws and had drop-in putts for par.

The fourth play-off hole was designated to be the Dragon. Unfortunately, Jeff and Zack had to endure a 20-minute delay as they waited for the last two MPO cards to finish.

There were easily in excess of 100 spectators watching all the Pro cards finish their 24-hole round. We had to let some traffic pass and they finally got drive on The Dragon.

Jeff Cooper threw a great drive out over the water which hyzered back and ended up perched in the middle of the thin fairway between the road and the lake. Zack shouted down to me to request that I clear the road for his forehand attempt. It took a few minutes to get the crowd of 60 people to get completely off the pavement so that Zack could drive. He threw a low, bullet forehand straight toward me while I was holding the crowd back. The disc skipped off the pavement and curved right back in-bounds again about 100' further down the fairway than Coop's drive! It was a real crowd-pleaser shot!

Coop decides to risk it all, and makes his 2nd throw for the pin from about 400' out. His backhand into the headwind wasn't quite stable enough, and it hung out over the lake until it splashed down. Zack makes an easy chip-shot forehand around the left (and dry) side of the fairway and Coop's next throw lands about the same distance as Zack's, but he's laying 4 to Zack's 2. Zack wins it after a 4 hole sudden-death playoff! Congrats Zack!
ching_lizard
Apr 01 2007, 11:48 PM
Ching, you going to do the course assignments tomorrow so the ratings calculate properly?



I'll take a look at them tomorrow night Chuck...I'm too bushed to think straight. Jay Reading and I had them all set up correctly last night though...or at least we thought we did. :D
ck34
Apr 01 2007, 11:50 PM
I looked and all the courses are set to Default so maybe the uploading did a reset.
ching_lizard
Apr 02 2007, 12:14 AM
That was it Chuck.

I included a tee time column and a pool column and it reset everything.

I've got it all put back and it looks a lot better. Lots of 1000+ rated rounds in round 3 now! :D
ching_lizard
Apr 02 2007, 12:20 AM
Local Matt Hall claimed the sole ace of the tournament today. He purportedly celebrated by doing a face plant in the mud running to get his disc out of the basket and slid the final few feet on his stomach.

Also of note: the treasure wasn't found...not even by the guys that hid it! Current theory is that maybe the excess moisture out there disolved it...some also theorize that it might've been washed away...but it was never found...not even by the pirates that hid it orginally! :D
ching_lizard
Apr 02 2007, 12:24 AM
The 5 players in A-pool that qualified for USDGC at this year's Texas States are:

Coda Hatfield
Kevin McCoy
Jay Reading
JD Ramirez
Zack Walker of the MPM division!

JD, Cooper and Walker all had scores of 184 and played it off.
odd_enough
Apr 02 2007, 12:41 AM
Matt $750 Hall I want the lazy boy of golf chairs. Von Zipper rules H town!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the crib! Sue Mac: are my tacos ready yet? BBQ rocked. JimBo's wife is the sh1t. Larry: Payout system rocked. J.D. toss me a bone brother. Guy thinks you rule. Me too. Mica, thanks for the ride. some Pro shot a 5 circle 13 on the dragon!! What a weekend!!!!!!!
seeker
Apr 02 2007, 01:10 AM
If I had only had a video camera on Matt when he started his run for the basket after the ace I could have made some SERIOUS MONEY on Americas Funniest Videos~!

:D:D:D
odd_enough
Apr 02 2007, 01:37 AM
Pete Rose just called to say nice dive!!!!
atxdiscgolfer
Apr 02 2007, 02:32 AM
great tournament! the best A-tier payout I have ever seen as far as AMs,the spotters and staff did a great job.considering the conditions on saturday everything ran smooth,cant wait till next year to get a little revenge on that East course.
seewhere
Apr 02 2007, 09:44 AM
some Pro shot a 5 circle 13 on the dragon

that would be Alex H. :(

Can you say ROUND ROCK was in the House.. :o:p :Dthere was 5 of us and you can see the results below. what wind and rain :eek:

5 players from Round rock in attendance 5 players cash

Masters:
Vinnie $ 282
El Chile $182
Cware $182
Larry T $190
Mware $105
jakewalsdorf
Apr 02 2007, 10:02 AM
I know that Neal Dambra did one heck of a lot of work and then managed to win Pro Grandmasters... Way to go Neal, I'll bet it's a 4 Ibuprophen night! Thanks Don Wilchek, too.

Winners that I remember

MPM Zack, the flick, Walker from Phoenix
MA1 Eric Soete, from Houston
FA1 Jennifer Beazley, from League City TX Jack Brooks Park Player
MM1 Randy Roland, from Friendswood, TX Jack Brooks Park Player
MA3 Jerry Cloud, from Dickinson?, TX Jack Brooks Park Player



Jack Brooks Park in Hitchcock, Texas represented!!!
tbender
Apr 02 2007, 10:29 AM
Also of note: the treasure wasn't found...not even by the guys that hid it! Current theory is that maybe the excess moisture out there disolved it...some also theorize that it might've been washed away...but it was never found...not even by the pirates that hid it orginally! :D



Rumor has it that it's now in the Gulf. Years from now archaeologists will find it and claim that it is part of Lafitte's hidden cache.
bigbadude
Apr 02 2007, 11:01 AM
Had a great time can't wait for next year's tournament!! Anyone of the top 8 pro-masters could of won.
seewhere
Apr 02 2007, 11:15 AM
that is for sure what a tight battle all weekend. Now for the archie bunkers I think they would be great to have at X-Tier events not A-tier. Moffet could use about 36 archie bunkers to make that course more fun... Would be a great idea for the 5 card F your buddy tourney... :confused: and on a side note what would the ruling be and how would you play it if you landed on top of the archie bunker????
jeterdawg
Apr 02 2007, 12:00 PM
As someone who was genuinely penalized by the archie bunker, I probably deserve an opinion as much as anyone...

We were driving in Saturday morning, and I saw one and had a pretty good idea of what it was, having no forewarning. I think this is a good attempt at making disc golf more challenging. However I think the appearence makes it seem more like a miniature golf course, and that is not the direction DG needs to head to be taken more seriously. Using natural OB lines (or yellow rope), or natural features (trees, bushes, fences, elevation, etc.) are what gives golf such appeal. The bunkers are too small to do anything but create good-luck / bad-luck situations.

On the hole I got caught on, we already had OB on both sides, and 3/4 of us were OB to the right since we threw wide of two cars that someone left right in our way (who's were those anyway?!?). We all re-teed, and I probably would have had a 4 instead of 5, but was all the way in the thing and had to take a 25' turbo putt.

Conclusion: way to think outside the box. It really is a good attempt at making the course more difficult, but there's too much luck factor. Maybe they'd have been better on holes that were about 450' to 500', so that you had to avoid them on your upshot, which is a shot where you should be trying to aim more precisely.

BTW, this was an incredible event, and I greatly thank everyone who had a hand in it.
suemac
Apr 02 2007, 12:19 PM
What a weekend! Hope everyone had a great time despite the weather. I know that I couldn't have done without my great staff of ladies.

Thanks go out to Diane Killackey, Lynn Raley, both made my job a lot easier. And Melissa and Kelly were great help too!

The final figures of how much we raised for TIP will be posted later this week. Thanks for supporting our efforts to get Texas to Peoria! Hope everyone enjoyed the Sunday lunch, I was fortunate to have some friends who love to cook and donated their time to our efforts. Diane &amp; Jimbo for the bourbon beans, and myself for the tator salad. :)
Apr 02 2007, 12:20 PM
Somebody playing MA1 last weekend is a gigantic bagger and needs to move up......... :D
tbender
Apr 02 2007, 12:25 PM
Paging Ian Aymami...
Send me a PM with your address...got a disc to return...
seeker
Apr 02 2007, 12:33 PM
I know that Neal Dambra did one heck of a lot of work and then managed to win Pro Grandmasters... Way to go Neal, I'll bet it's a 4 Ibuprophen night! Thanks Don Wilchek, too.

Winners that I remember

MPM Zack, the flick, Walker from Phoenix
MA1 Eric Soete, from Houston
FA1 Jennifer Beazley, from League City TX Jack Brooks Park Player
MM1 Randy Roland, from Friendswood, TX Jack Brooks Park Player
MA3 Jerry Cloud, from Dickinson?, TX Jack Brooks Park Player



Jack Brooks Park in Hitchcock, Texas represented!!!

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[QUOTE]


Wait a minute! Neal and Jen play in Mo City all the time, that's where Neal lives!

Randy Roland must be eating Wheaties from Kryton. Awesome tourney Randy!

Yes, Jerry is seen almost exclusively at Jack Brooks.

RE: Archie Bunkers - they did not affect my play or shot selection but we did all hope that someone (else) would hit one just to see what they did to get out. I think they do add an interesting factor to the holes. Greenville South Carolina (Upstate Classic!) has a hole at the bottom of a hill almost directly behind the basket with a huge hollow trunk that snags a surprising number of discs. to get a legal stance you have to climb into the hollow and throw out. Now that's entertainment that money can't buy!

next year we could build some fake-but-real-looking obstacles......?
james_mccaine
Apr 02 2007, 01:07 PM
The "hokey" nature of the bunkers doesn't bother me at all. Just make them bigger, so the fluke factor isn't as great. I will tell you that their presence did make me rethink my flight pattern into the green on two occasions.

How about using a four foot high net, about 15 feet long and set at the proper places, it would serve as a more effective bunker because it wouldn't be as random.

Sue, the Sunday food was really good.

To Larry and Dave and everyone else who worked so hard, thank you so much. It was a great tourney.
Xian Rocs
Apr 02 2007, 01:27 PM
Big THANKS to Neal, Nez, Larry, Conrad, Mr. Ed, spotters and the rest of the staff.

Great turnout despite the horrible weather conditions on Saturday.

Fantastic Tournament!!!!
seeker
Apr 02 2007, 01:30 PM
next year we could build some fake-but-real-looking obstacles......?




By "we" I mean Neal!!!! :D

Hey, Sue, yes, breakfast burritos and lunch really hit the spot. Thanks to you and Diane, Lynn, Melissa and Kelly and Matchu, too.
dixonjowers
Apr 02 2007, 02:03 PM
I agree with the size of the archie's needing to be rethought. From 400' out, trying to avoid the 3 foot opening isn't on the top of my list. If they were substantially bigger, i could see the benefit. By bigger i'm meaning wider and taller, not deeper. One question that came up on our card...if you were caught in the corner, or really any location, where 30 cm behind your disc in line with the basket took you outside of the bunker, is that a legal stance. By the letter of the law, it would have to be, but that seems to negate the idea of the bunker. Perhaps a special rule for the tourney or making sure that they all line up with the basket so that wouldn't happen.

One other question for the TD's. What was to keep someone from going the "back way" on Wilmont 14 on sunday? It seemed that the ob line started at the box and went west. I saw no string or mando's making me go that way.
calbert
Apr 02 2007, 02:23 PM
Dixon, I talked to Nez and there was NOTHING preventing someone from taking advantage of some creativity. I am now upset that I didn't do it. I think I would have taken a 5 at worst and still saved a stroke. I think noone wanted to be the first to do it, but lots of people thought about going that way.
seewhere
Apr 02 2007, 02:24 PM
heck I got a drop in 5 going the right way.. :D:eek: :p
Yeti
Apr 02 2007, 03:21 PM
some Pro shot a 5 circle 13 on the dragon

that would be Alex H. :(

Can you say ROUND ROCK was in the House.. :o:p :Dthere was 5 of us and you can see the results below. what wind and rain :eek:

5 players from Round rock in attendance 5 players cash

Masters:
Vinnie $ 282
El Chile $182
Cware $182
Larry T $190
Mware $105



In other words like the Round Rock motto says:

If the course is too long, your too old

or currently

if your from Round Rock and playing Pro, you too are also old ;)

Way to go you Masters guys. Time to start teaching some youngin's in Round Rock to represent with the big boys :o
Yeti
Apr 02 2007, 03:28 PM
Hats off Houston. What a great job marking and prepping courses. Not too mention handling the weather adversity professionally with great communication and turn around.
Awesome BBQ Team T.I.P.

I think there were more players from Canada, Alabama and Louisiana than there were from Dallas/Fart Worth.

Congrats to Coda, Des, Zack and Neal on the Pro side and all of the USDGC qualifiers.
seewhere
Apr 02 2007, 03:29 PM
thanks Jay and yes we might need to work on our Motto to include something about age!!!


we do have some great pros we just can't get them to travel too much as they all seem to have 1-4 little kids on their heels.. :D
my_hero
Apr 02 2007, 03:40 PM
we do have some great pros we just can't get them to travel too much as they all seem to have 1-4 little kids on their heels..



Along with GIANT GROIN pulls. :D
dixonjowers
Apr 02 2007, 03:50 PM
c'mon johnny, we don't need to hear how big your groin is.
tbender
Apr 02 2007, 03:52 PM
Dixon, I talked to Nez and there was NOTHING preventing someone from taking advantage of some creativity. I am now upset that I didn't do it. I think I would have taken a 5 at worst and still saved a stroke. I think noone wanted to be the first to do it, but lots of people thought about going that way.



The only problem with that is clearing the OB line at the base of the hill.

You would be OB with respect to the basket if you didn't clear the line...and it could be argued you would be throwing from OB at the basket.

(Last year, I think we had it roped off behind the tee to stop that.)
coda_hatfield
Apr 02 2007, 03:55 PM
Thanks houston for another awesome State Championship. Even though this was the first tournament that people just casually walked thru a 3ft deep stream of water... goood times!!! just don't want to ever do it again. Thanks also to Brad Wells for putting us up, amazing host. Congrats to all winners and USDGC qualifiers!!! 6 BOGEYS ON THE WEEKEND!!! and I only had one on Saturday.
the_kid
Apr 02 2007, 03:56 PM
Dixon, I talked to Nez and there was NOTHING preventing someone from taking advantage of some creativity. I am now upset that I didn't do it. I think I would have taken a 5 at worst and still saved a stroke. I think noone wanted to be the first to do it, but lots of people thought about going that way.



The only problem with that is clearing the OB line at the base of the hill.

You would be OB with respect to the basket if you didn't clear the line...and it could be argued you would be throwing from OB at the basket.

(Last year, I think we had it roped off behind the tee to stop that.)



Yea that's why we didn't do it. I ran up to see if they had brought the OB line back to the wetlands and if they had then there would have been nothing to stop you from going that way.
seewhere
Apr 02 2007, 04:03 PM
Matt which hole did you ace # 3 or # 4 on the tourney ? now you can buy a new umbrella :o
the_kid
Apr 02 2007, 04:05 PM
Matt which hole did you ace # 3 or # 4 on the tourney ? now you can buy a new umbrella :o



#4
tbender
Apr 02 2007, 04:07 PM
Matt which hole did you ace # 3 or # 4 on the tourney ? now you can buy a new umbrella :o



#4, the casual ocean hole.

375 to the basket. 370 to clear the "fairway".
ninafofitre
Apr 02 2007, 06:11 PM
Great Event as always, Mother Nature tried to ruin it, but the Houston Crew is always way too good of a tournament staff that you barely noticed that we were playing golf in a swamp.

Thank you for getting Courtney and I out of town in a timely fashion, we made it home before 2am and there is no way that could have happened without Nez, Larry, SueMac and the rest of the staff being overly prepared.

I've said it before, if we could relocate this staff and event to a more central location in America, the tournament would be one of the hardest to get into, it could rival Bowling Green Am Weekend. Year after year they do an outstanding job of making the event very pleasurable for the players.

THANK YOU!!!!!!
m_conners
Apr 02 2007, 07:09 PM
Where was Flesner?????
cgflesner
Apr 02 2007, 07:13 PM
Where was Flesner?????



I quit playing disc golf :D
At least in Texas.
m_conners
Apr 02 2007, 07:14 PM
Sorry to hear that, man...where is your next tournament location?
rtinsa
Apr 02 2007, 08:09 PM
Had fun. Staffed well. Great Job Coda. Nice meeting you Matt O. Thanx for the Hosp. Top Pro DG. You now who you are. Had fun hanging out in Galvaston Bay! Love to do it again!
ching_lizard
Apr 02 2007, 08:54 PM
One other question for the TD's. What was to keep someone from going the "back way" on Wilmont 14 on sunday? It seemed that the ob line started at the box and went west. I saw no string or mando's making me go that way.




I'm a little stunned at the moment because I just checked, and it is not listed on the program and I was handling "other" issues at the time of the player meeting and wasn't paying attention, but I'm pretty sure that Nez made an announcement about having to around the wetlands area on the right. Last year, we explained that there was a mando tied around a tree that was inside the wetlands area where we are supposed to stay out of...:D...and you had to pass that mando on the right/west side.

I was getting a little worn out stringing the course, and I got lazy by not running some of that string completely around the wetlands area. Nevertheless, it has always been mandatory that you pass around that West end of the wetlands on your approach to the hole. No spike hyzers over the top are allowed, nor can you go around it the back way. (Or else even I might card a 3 on it!:D)
the_kid
Apr 02 2007, 08:56 PM
Pretty sure is hasn't always been that way. Landers did it a few years back.
seewhere
Apr 02 2007, 09:19 PM
I think landers and other talked about it but no one attempted it. anyways its a pretty easy par 5 going around so I am not sure what all the talk is about :eek: and the dragon played pretty easy this year. drop in 3 and a drop in 4. ;) ROUND ROCK GOLF
cgflesner
Apr 02 2007, 09:30 PM
Sorry to hear that, man...where is your next tournament location?



MastersCup in Cali.
Open field was around 80 last year.
ching_lizard
Apr 02 2007, 09:31 PM
and the dragon played pretty easy this year. drop in 3 and a drop in 4.



Tell that to Davidson. :(
my_hero
Apr 02 2007, 09:36 PM
and the dragon played pretty easy this year. drop in 3 and a drop in 4.



Tell that to Davidson. :(



Uh-Oh. Please tell us more.
aixsponsa
Apr 02 2007, 09:44 PM
Thanks to everyone who made this thing happen. Had a blast !! Got to play with some good folks over the weekend. Tony,Trey, Colorado Matt Pratt,Joel,and especially my boy Brad Wells. Did MA2/MA3 play the same 24 hole course sunday as MPO ??
disc54
Apr 02 2007, 09:47 PM
Definitely I really enjoy playing Texas States, it was my first Open Tourney &amp; first cash. Big props to Nez, Ching &amp; and the Wonderful Staff and Volunteers. Guillermo Avalos you rock as a host. Thanks for your hospitality &amp; allowing me to crash at your New Home. And your brothers are great. Many Thanks and Good Times....!!!
ching_lizard
Apr 02 2007, 09:48 PM
MA2 division played the West-24 course like the Pros.
nez
Apr 03 2007, 12:20 AM
The question that was posed was not about Wilmont 14, but about the dragon hole, especially on the Sunday West layout, where the tee box was back another 40 ft to get fresh footing. I was asked whether you could play it on the other side of the pond, ie in Tourney 4's fairway. I stated that there was nothing presented that would stop you from doing so, but that I would likely warn you for a courtesy violation for purposefully driving into somebody else's fairway, and then stroke you when you did it again on Tourney 3's fairway on your way around the other side.

As it relates to Wilmont 14 the "wetlands" hole, there is a long standing "mando" tree in the middle of the wetlands that you must play to the right of. Since you can't go into the wetlands, you'll just have to trust it is there! ;)

Thanks for the kind comments from all. I was most impressed (as were the sheriffs on both days) on how many stuck it out and played, despite the 90 min start delay prior to the first tee. We did ultimately have 13 drops on Friday night/Saturday morning, and ended up with a total of 190 players.
dixonjowers
Apr 03 2007, 12:25 AM
Thanks for the info. A couple of follow up questions...if I was a new player and the mando wasn't mentioned in the player's meeting, what would keep me from going the back way. About the dragon, i never even thought about it. When the last few cards were coming in, all of the other holes were empty, would you still get stroked for throwing into someone else's fairway if no one was playing that fairway?
seewhere
Apr 03 2007, 09:36 AM
sorry but I dont think you can stroke someone for throwing into their fairway I have been to many tournaments where shots land in the wrong fairways. no courtesy violation or strokes. if it is in the rule book please find me that rule. :p
Apr 03 2007, 10:36 AM
Think about how many strokes would be handed out @ a course like z-boaz if that were the rule...

Good observation seehorsey!
tbender
Apr 03 2007, 10:46 AM
The question that was posed was not about Wilmont 14, but about the dragon hole, especially on the Sunday West layout, where the tee box was back another 40 ft to get fresh footing. I was asked whether you could play it on the other side of the pond, ie in Tourney 4's fairway. I stated that there was nothing presented that would stop you from doing so, but that I would likely warn you for a courtesy violation for purposefully driving into somebody else's fairway, and then stroke you when you did it again on Tourney 3's fairway on your way around the other side.



Best solution is to put a mando on the northern tip of the island.
denny1210
Apr 03 2007, 11:07 AM
I stated that there was nothing presented that would stop you from doing so, but that I would likely warn you for a courtesy violation for purposefully driving into somebody else's fairway, and then stroke you when you did it again on Tourney 3's fairway on your way around the other side.




I can't tell if this is a joke or yet again another example of people making up rules that do not exist.

The part of the courtesy rule that might be applicable states,

Players should not throw until they are certain that the thrown disc will not distract another player or potentially injure anyone present.


So, if a player decides to play down another fairway, absent a mando preventing it, they might have to wait.

I've noticed things during a tournament that I wished I would have done differently such as where to put OB lines, drop zones, tees, basket locations, etc. Once the tournament round has begun, however, we can't change the rules mid-stream.

On the shooting down other fairways issue, at last year's Players Cup we had one goofball (who happens to be a buddy of mine from, ahem, Texas) decide to play the par 5, 13th hole about 45 degrees offline, over another basket and into the middle of another fairway. I wasn't thrilled about it, but there was no mando or OB in place and I wasn't about to invent new rules to stop him from doing it.

I thought about adding a mando for this year's event to stop it from happening again, but after assessing that particular situation, the "alternate" route is clearly inferior and I doubt that other players will deviate from the intended flow of the hole. If I'm wrong, however, we'll make an adjustment for '08, but we will not invent rules in the middle of an event.

An exception to the above, could be in the instance of a significant safety concern that wasn't anticipated setting up the course. In that case I would consider adding a mando and/or OB area to a hole, in between rounds of an event and communicating it to all players prior to the start of their round.
jeterdawg
Apr 03 2007, 11:24 AM
You guys are making these holes harder than they should be! All you need to do for the dragon is throw a Firebird with a slight hyzer 10-12 feet high 5-10 feet out over the water, with a decent amount of power, and let it hyzer back into the fairway. Then throw the same shot again with the same disc, and you should be putting. I know it's not quite that easy to do, but trying to max out distance with a disc that may not come back doesn't help any since it's a 600 foot hole, and requires two shots to get to the basket. If this Am can 3 it last year in the wind, and this year in the rain, then anyone can do it! It was a little tougher this year having to throw in the 4-6" high standing water in the ditch, but somehow it luckily still got across.

As for the Wetlands hole, I'd just keep it out safe away from the OB, and try not to land right behind any trees. Since we didn't play the entire horseshoe, I'm not sure what the back-door looks like, but it would have been fun to watch someone try.
seeker
Apr 03 2007, 07:12 PM
Thanks, Dave Nesbitt, Larry Kruse, Conrad Joe, Ed Morgan, Susan Macaluso, Roger Blair, Jack Camp, Steve Dufrane, Louis Hall and many others for a great tournament !!!!!




and I forgot to thank Lyle Ross. Thanks again, Lyle
Paul Taylor
Apr 03 2007, 08:42 PM
The question that was posed was not about Wilmont 14, but about the dragon hole, especially on the Sunday West layout, where the tee box was back another 40 ft to get fresh footing. I was asked whether you could play it on the other side of the pond, ie in Tourney 4's fairway. I stated that there was nothing presented that would stop you from doing so, but that I would likely warn you for a courtesy violation for purposefully driving into somebody else's fairway, and then stroke you when you did it again on Tourney 3's fairway on your way around the other side.



I was not there this year, broken foot, and it seems I missed a good one, but one comment. I saw this happen at PRO Worlds in 2002 and the guy that did it in the final round ended with a drop in par from the route he took. I had been wanting to play the dragon ever since I saw him do that and try the shot myself, but in the last couple of tourneys that I have played there, the MM1 division hasn't had the opprotunity to play the Dragon.

Didn't know that we could not do that, the official during the PRO Worlds never said he couldn't when it was questioned by others in that group.

Now I will rethink this shot IF I get to play it in the future.
ching_lizard
Apr 03 2007, 09:16 PM
In the absense of a mandotory flight path, I'd have to say that throwing to the right side of The Dragon should be legal. As for throwing into another fairway, well, let's just say that I've been known to spray plastic around a course before, and the spraying is punishment enough! :D

Next year, there will be a mando on #14 though...you might even get a glimpse of it from the OB line of the wetlands!
maverick
Apr 04 2007, 11:42 AM
On the shooting down other fairways issue, at last year's Players Cup we had one goofball (who happens to be a buddy of mine from, ahem, Texas) decide to play the par 5, 13th hole about 45 degrees offline, over another basket and into the middle of another fairway. I wasn't thrilled about it, but there was no mando or OB in place and I wasn't about to invent new rules to stop him from doing it.


I know who this guy was, btw he still got a 5
james_mccaine
Apr 04 2007, 12:46 PM
I'm fascinated by the idea that people could just throw over the lake to near 3's basket, and then pitch it over to the dragon's basket. From the normal tee, and with no wind, it is an interesting risk reward. However, from a longer tee and/or high winds, it is probably a safer play.

Larry, I hope y'all call lake and beyond OB on the dragon; otherwise, it would dramatically lose its appeal. It would also really slow play and add danger to players on 2 and 3.
seewhere
Apr 04 2007, 01:03 PM
have to agree with james "the blunt" Mccaine on this one. on or beyond the island should be OB we already know the water is OB&gt;.
marcace
Apr 04 2007, 01:57 PM
Thank you Nez and crew for a great tourney!! Congrats to my friend Flicka, I'll get you next time. It was great seeing all the great Master players from Texas again. Good job Coda, Des, and all the other winners! Kudos to all the players who played in those difficult situatons......cement tee pads would be a great addition to those great courses:) Alex you have some unfinished business with that Dragon!!!! See ya'll hopefully on tour soon. Pete and Joe are wimps!!
frisbeeguy
Apr 04 2007, 02:30 PM
The dragon is a great finishing hole! I agree on it being mandatory to play up the fairway with shots across the pond O.B.

"and the dragon played pretty easy this year. drop in 3 and a drop in 4." Lucky you Mr. Seeware...nice 3. The previous worst I've ever taken on the hole is a 6 once. I usually 4 or 5 it.

By the way...a 4 would have won the division &amp; locked in a USDGC invitation. A 5 would have put me in a three way tie for 1st and also in a playoff for the USDGC spot. whooops...

Thanks for the effort to all the folks that made this tourney take place again this year. Well done.
seewhere
Apr 04 2007, 03:02 PM
Lucky you Mr. Seeware

thanks but no luck was needed :D hopefully this does not put you back into retirement
seewhere
Apr 04 2007, 03:08 PM
on another note who won speed golf??
the_kid
Apr 04 2007, 03:48 PM
on another note who won speed golf??



The guy typing this post. 1st in dubs, speed golf, and ace. :D
seeker
Apr 04 2007, 04:06 PM
If you saw his sprint for the basket after the ace, you would not question whether he won or lost.....you might wonder, how he survived it! [/b] :D:D:D