Very well said, Jerry.

thanks to chris ware and mike ware for a good round at wilco today that was a lot of fun. :D:) :) :cool::D:cool:

Go right back there tomorrow morn. Now that you practiced the course you're ready for the mini.

me, parker and nate is playing a round at 9;00 am on sat the 16th $5 winner take all dont be scared come on out. :D

me scared?

lost red orion at wilco on # 18 tuesday evening if anyone found it let me know thanks

per rain out # wilco is closed

Bump

They are going to keep Wilco closed for a few days and start some course work as soon as it is dry enough...should be open soon...they plan on mowing this week(including the rough on #16 where people have lost a few

cool that course looks great after its mowed. :D

talked with the city yesterday they said they would open today but that was before the rain moved in last night. rain out is from yesterday course closed but softball on schedule..

looks like it is going to rain all week

just talked with the city this am and the course is closed again today. City is working on back up plan if the rain continues. I say Round Rock would be good. grass, concrete tees drains well and it is still in williamson county.. :D

Are there plans to put concrete pads in at Wilco? That would make that course much more playable in the rain.

they have talked about tee pads but not concrete

Different colored dirt does not constitute a tee pad!

I had a nice conversation the parks guys today about concrete tee pads...they may have seen the light(or the rain)...

per yesterday rain out # course is closed.

I had a nice conversation the parks guys today about concrete tee pads...they may have seen the light(or the rain)...



Stay on them Mitch. You're a great steward and representative of our sport. Keep up the good work; it's much appreciated by those of us who want to throw at nice parks and courses.

Ditto!

FYI ... I received this email from the city yesterday.


We had some tournament play at the disc golf course this past weekend, which did not have park approval.
I am not sure if you can post anything�.but it would be good to remind them that all tournaments hosted at our park must be approved with our park's director.
Thanks.
Benita Bonner
Williamson County Administrative Park Specialist/Scheduler
350 Discovery Blvd., Suite 207
Cedar Park, TX 78613
512-260-4283
FAX: 512-260-4237

What is the deal with those folks? I'm of the belief that someone within the County group is reasonable and can comprehend that loosening their desire for a cut might actually bring them more money.

For one, a mini is not really a tournament, it is more like an organized get-together. The other thing is that somehow, the county needs to realize that more events at the course brings them more money. Having a mini there every week might bring them an extra grand at the end of the year at a $ per player. Having more tournaments will also bring in more income as well as increase the stature of the course, thereby also increasing play and income. In short, with a slight attitude adjustment, they could be making lots more money. This conflict is a crying shame, since it is the best course around.

Not sure why I've got this thread as a favorite that forwards replies to me via email, but I thought I'd at least say this, as someone who's played Wilco...

Just be careful to manage the relationship with this lady and the Parks dept. I find that I often give some people too much credit for having a business sense when they are actually very close-minded and it doesn't matter what you say to them. Be as nice as you can to them, and when you catch them in a good mood, explain things very rationally and straight-forward, and focus on how it benefits them. Sounds like you're headed in the right direction. I was very lucky to play Wilco...great course. Sux that the city is being so anal though!

I think that is excellent advice. It has to be frustrating for whomever is the Dragon liason. I think y'all should get Mr. Thompson to be the lead. Everyone likes Larry. :D

I think that is excellent advice. It has to be frustrating for whomever is the Dragon liason. I think y'all should get Mr. Thompson to be the lead. Everyone likes Larry. :D


Not to mention he's got experience at putting out fires.

Benita has been very helpful and very easy to get along with...She wants to start playing as well...They have no idea of the difference between a mini and an actual tournie...But, they do want to be in complete charge of the park and the course...and they do want $1 per person to go into the park fund( all of which will be spent on course improvments)...Yall just need to let them know in advance and be nice :D

Benita has been very helpful and very easy to get along with...She wants to start playing as well...They have no idea of the difference between a mini and an actual tournie...But, they do want to be in complete charge of the park and the course...and they do want $1 per person to go into the park fund( all of which will be spent on course improvments)...Yall just need to let them know in advance and be nice :D



when minis happen, the participants pay their $1 to play in the Wilco lock box already......just like the casuals. So is this the $1/person mentioned above, or do they want more if its a mini?

They seem to have different rates for different people...so it might depend on who is asking and who is running the event...For my 2 events there they wanted $1 per person and no one had to pay the box...I wrote them a check and they mailed me a receipt.

TWC..... the county got a $ per day per player and %10 of the entry fee.
And to the point the money paid goes back into the park......they have already gone throught 1000 pay envolpes.
The only thing they have done with the park is added the #ed tee sign to a rock....(they paid $100 each)they got raped with that price.
R&R paid for the concrete for the baskets.PuTT the baskets together and installed. And my tax dollar paid for the installtion of the course so I am trying to see where it is going back into the park. Heck my tax dollar is paying for the mowing.
Lets just say 1000 envolpes at $3.......hmmmm
Did I miss wear our governer said county parks can make a profit.....or is that rolled up with charging a toll for roads we already paid for :confused:

sounds like someone else should have asked :p

also sounds like if it a tournament tht benefits them IE texas games than no 10% but everyone else gets a raping with no vaseline and likes it.. I dont think so. I wonder how we can get the city to re-imburse us for the baskets installation.

Send them an invoice.

Does the city charge a "user's fee" for people who use the parks jogging paths? What about the basketball courts? if you go out there and shoot a few hoops, do you have to throw a buck into a Pay Box, too?

You guys are right, "f" those people :p...that will help...The county has a problem with one person, and the rest of the Round Rockers are going down with that ship...pretty simple really

The county has a problem with one person

and who would that be? Laura and I are in discussions with the parks dept as we speak.. we will update everyone once we have something to report and rooster I dont think folks are having to pay for jogging trail nor basketball fees. :confused:

We basically have to treat this place like it's a private course. I really don't care if you can shoot baskets for free or kick a ball at no cost because that's not why I go to this park. To play at this course we have to play by their rules fair or not. I don't see the point in bringing up arguments about how discgolfer's are treated differently from soccer players etc. Everything will work itself out in time, remember these people are still learning the difference between a mini and a tournament. There probably are insurance reasons why the Park Department must approve tournaments as apposed to lets screw the discgolfers reasons. Mitch probably knows more about the Red Tape involved but I would warn against responding harshly to Benita's e-mail. Chris be your I just busted a big hyzer self and not your I just missed a 15 footer self when negotiating please :D

And chris just look at the last page to see who the county has problems with.

And chris just look at the last page to see who the county has problems with.



James McCaine?

James McCaine?


AbsoLOUtely not

Yeah who is this one person?????
Ain't me!
Everyone and anyone that runs an event out there will have to pay the %10. Except Mitch :confused: cause he knows how to ask. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
The issue is the county dosen't have a standard to compair to when it comes to disc golf.

hmm sure got quiet :o

Well, it was bound to get either really quiet or really loud. ;)

wilco is looking pretty good and I made $5 out there yesterday but don't tell the city /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Wilco called ....THEY WANT THEIR .50 /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

:D I put it in the box....

per Voice mail course is open. also heard a few folks are heading out to play around 4:30

This Sunday is the 1st Sunday of the month. Lago still seems unplayable/not mowed. I have spoken with the Williamson County Parks Department & we're set to run our 1st & 3rd Sundays @ Wilco - $1 per player to cash box (like always). This Sunday there's a large Labor Day soccer tournament & we've been asked not to park in our regular spots by the fields, but across the street. This seems like a simple enough request. Let's please do as we're asked as our relationship is finally developing in a positive manner. Thanx to all that come & enjoy the great course - we'll play Old Settlers if there's a rain out. Check here or call 943-3366 for rain out info.


oops I love the edit button above is a quote from Lala she did all emailing I just got the 2 emailers on the same email :D

thanks anyways I will look again on weds for your disc

Good work, Chris. I guess the folks at Williamson County weren't as unreasonable as they were made to sound.

Having heard about, but never seeing, the "bee tree" on hole #18, it is very impressive.

Played Thursday and I guess the group in front of me must have banged the tree, because when I came thru, I had No trouble locating the BEES.

From the tee, ahead about 250ft, two tree in the middle of the fairway form a "goal post" that I try to drive thru.

The goal/tree on the right, about 10ft high, has a branch cut off, on the right side, close to flush with the tree, 1ft + in diameter, the bees swarm out from a hole in the center.

Certainly added some drama to the end of my round, as I was hollaring for my momma, while I ran away.

On a brighter note, the course is mowed and looks great, not at all like my round a Circle C.

sounds like you found the tree we all already know about.. :D have fun at lunch with the in laws tomorrow

Fun round Joe, epi sr, epi, parker and Jamie.

wilco looks good but dont get off the fairways... our group found 3 lost discs on 16 all no namers

Don't suppose one was a blue inferno? Also if some decides to SHANK hard left on #10, I left an easter egg out there too.

nope

watchout for the bees or hornets on hole 6 .They are at the corner where it doglegs right. Their nest is in the ground and they can be aggresive.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL!! gobble gobble gobble

bees are out already this year. also the city needs to do something with the tee boxes. the bricks that are out there seem to be in different locations everytime you play :confused:

Larry hasn't eradicated the bees yet? Put those fireman skills to work. :p

I thought the boxes always changed because all the weenies out there were skeeeered of a tough course. They wanted to "easify" the course as the President would say.

James....WHATEVER
Focus on the poor examples of courses in Austin......And leave the course in Round Rock to the pros :D

bees are out already this year.



Take a bottle of talcum powder with you the next time you are out there and dump the powder down the hole where the bees are.

Bees breathe through bodies and their bodies are naturally moist. The powder clings to the body of the bee and acts like a suffication device. The real pest control powder has some other ingrediants in it, but talcum powder works on the same principal. It just might take a couple of applications to get rid of all of the bees.

Talcum powder does not require a license to use and so the parks department should have no problem with eradicating bees in this manner.

I do not know if Anti-Monkey Butt powder would work in this situation, but if it did, that would be 'killing two bees' with one stone. :D

It is against the law in the state of Texas to disturb and or kill honey bees.

So, are those redneck Wilco cops writing tickets everytime someone whacks the tree? I can hear it now:

"Son, you're under arrest for disturbing those bees, I'm gonna need to check your bag there to see if there are any other bee terror implements in there. Oh what is this? Hey Billy Bob, are these more implements of wax destruction?.......Why yes it is Cletus. Why they even label it the "destroyer." These hippies ain't too bright....Son, you're doubly under arrest now. Make sure you don't wear bluejeans to court, it's a new rule ya hear and I'd have to arrest you for the third time, and third arrest in Williamson County means Huntsville."

Maybe we can pour some dye down the hole and see if the tie dyed bees migrate down South :D

So, are those redneck Wilco cops writing tickets everytime someone whacks the tree? I can hear it now:

"Son, you're under arrest for disturbing those bees, I'm gonna need to check your bag there to see if there are any other bee terror implements in there. Oh what is this? Hey Billy Bob, are these more implements of wax destruction?.......Why yes it is Cletus. Why they even label it the "destroyer." These hippies ain't too bright....Son, you're doubly under arrest now. Make sure you don't wear bluejeans to court, it's a new rule ya hear and I'd have to arrest you for the third time, and third arrest in Williamson County means Huntsville."



Thats Funny

bees are out already this year.



Take a bottle of talcum powder with you the next time you are out there and dump the powder down the hole where the bees are.

Bees breathe through bodies and their bodies are naturally moist. The powder clings to the body of the bee and acts like a suffication device. The real pest control powder has some other ingrediants in it, but talcum powder works on the same principal. It just might take a couple of applications to get rid of all of the bees.

Talcum powder does not require a license to use and so the parks department should have no problem with eradicating bees in this manner.

I do not know if Anti-Monkey Butt powder would work in this situation, but if it did, that would be 'killing two bees' with one stone. :D



A) Don't hurt bees. They are critical to our environment.
b) Use Gold Bond. Everyone knows it works better. Plus if you spill any down your pants you'll be pleasantly suprised! :o

the following is from the city and would like for us to keep an eye out for this camera. They have not found it. so if you have found a camera out there please see information below.


Hi my name is Dustin Graham, I was out there on Sunday evening April 14, 2008, and I lost my digital camera on the Disc Golf course. my phone (817-915-8723)
my email is ([email protected])

It is a Casio Exilim � the color is a purplish Blue color, It has some photos on it that mean a lot to me, It was getting dark and by the time I got to our vehicle it was missing out of my golf bag, I was with 5 other friends and they are all trustworthy, we all paid the entry fee and enjoyed the course, My friend Curtis lost his �pink� Mr. Jim's disc out there, and my other friend lost his tie dye eagle disc out there..

Please just keep in mind that there might be a camera out there.. I would be very grateful just to get the memory card from the camera, so any and all information you could send my way would be greatly appreciated, My Friends own a disc golf store, plus we have installed two disc golf courses in our local area in FT WORTH.

this is our website- www.inchesofmercury.com (http://www.inchesofmercury.com)

Thank you for your time,
I could work out a small reward (disc golf gear etc.)
for anyone who might find my camera.

Dustin Graham

________________________________________

Ok we need WATERLOO and RR to step up now. The guys is scraping the boxes as we speak. we need people to come out asap or when they can with gloves, shovels , breaker bars and walk behind the scraper and see if forms will fit where he is scraping if not we will need to dig down until the fit nicely. The guy doing the scraping is named Steve. Please come out and try to help if you can. This is going to be a long 3-4 days to get this done.

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm259/daygamer/vandal.jpg

Tony Y. and I saw this Tuesday morning. The lock held tight but they need stronger hinges. Hope the thieves don't close our park.

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm259/daygamer/vandal.jpg

Tony Y. and I saw this Tuesday morning. The lock held tight but they need stronger hinges. Hope the thieves don't close our park.



Are you saying that "losers" robbed the cash box again??? :mad:

That's what I'm saying.

gotta be a REAL loser, who would break into a box filled with such a small amount of cash. Dear loser, if you want Big Money.....get an education and a job, that will last a lifetime compared to a couple of day's worth of beer to drink. Geez