Players list update as of right now:

MPO David Tomlinson
MPO RT Evans
MPO Matt Hall

MPM Kent Bray
MPM Richard Gutzman
MPM Marcus Roberts
MPM Jerry Perez
MPM Brian Schmidt

FPO Patty Justice

MA1 Guillermo Avalos
MA1 Robbie Cooper
MA1 Trey Reeves
MA1 Tony Bender
MA1 Dusty Basnett
MA1 Epi Ramirez
MA1 Ryan Sawyer
MA1 Mitch Justice

MM1 Rhett Stroh
MM1 Mike Smith
MM1 Jack Camp
MM1 Gary Duke
MM1 Ed Morgan
MM1 Tom Breuer

MG1 Harry Kalthoff

MA2 Wade Dauner
MA2 Andy Scofield
MA2 Geoffrey Mysorski
MA2 Jim Yount
MA2 Gus Calvo III
MA2 Trey VanDusen
MA2 Michael Simpson
MA2 Jody Curtis
MA2 Russ Evans
MA2 John Ledesma
MA2 Erik Engebretson

MA3 Jerry Lively
MA3 James Sustaita
MA3 Mark Sustaita

FW1 Megan Stroh
FW1 Susan Macaluso
FW1 Kat Bender

FW3 Tiffany Key

42 Confirmed entries and counting. At this rate, we will fill early.

10 Days til Friday Doubles.

:D

BIG ROB AND J DIZZLE WILL BE THUR FO SHO! hahahah

We will be awaiting another legendary performance...

No man i now i know how stupid that was! i was 5 under going into that hole finished even! that rating was an 880! thats awesome defanately not doing that anymore! its going to be lengendary good this time

Hey Tommy, add me to that list...MA1...

Add Smokin Joe Torres ,MPO.

And Pete Lopez MPO.

How many players will the course hold? When is considered full?

well then add me to I paid throught paypal on the 7th of FEB :D

If we hold at 21 holes, that's 105 players at 5 per card. Last 3 years were 111, 92, and 96 total.

Thank you Mr Bender :p

Players list update as of right now:

MPO David Tomlinson
MPO RT Evans
MPO Matt Hall

MPM Kent Bray
MPM Richard Gutzman
MPM Marcus Roberts
MPM Jerry Perez
MPM Brian Schmidt

FPO Patty Justice

MA1 Guillermo Avalos
MA1 Robbie Cooper
MA1 Trey Reeves
MA1 Tony Bender
MA1 Dusty Basnett
MA1 Epi Ramirez
MA1 Ryan Sawyer
MA1 Mitch Justice
MA1 Jake Sisson


MM1 Rhett Stroh
MM1 Mike Smith
MM1 Jack Camp
MM1 Gary Duke
MM1 Ed Morgan
MM1 Tom Breuer

MG1 Harry Kalthoff

MA2 Wade Dauner
MA2 Andy Scofield
MA2 Geoffrey Mysorski
MA2 Jim Yount
MA2 Gus Calvo III
MA2 Trey VanDusen
MA2 Michael Simpson
MA2 Jody Curtis
MA2 Russ Evans
MA2 John Ledesma
MA2 Erik Engebretson

MA3 Jerry Lively
MA3 James Sustaita
MA3 Mark Sustaita

FW1 Megan Stroh
FW1 Susan Macaluso
FW1 Kat Bender

FW3 Tiffany Key

42 Confirmed entries and counting. At this rate, we will fill early.

10 Days til Friday Doubles.

:D

Tommy,
Go ahead and put me down for a camping permit. Let ma know what info you need. Myself and my friend Nick will be joining me. I will register on titledisc this weekend.
I got a couple of discs for that great cause.
Thank's,
Joey Roper
22631

You may no want to wait til the weekend. ;) Updated players list in a few.

The Course looks SWEET! i don't know why i haven't made it to Victoria yet! It looks awesome! CAN'T WAIT

You may no want to wait til the weekend. ;) Updated players list in a few.



Erron and efrain salazar are now signed up via titledisc!! :D

You may no want to wait til the weekend. Updated players list in a few.



A few.... Days?? :confused: ... :D

We want to come check out the Victoria course this weekend.

Would you folks be interested in a World Champion Clinic and some doubles this Saturday?

We are thinking like 11-1 clinic and then doubles afterwards, PM us if you are interested. This is not a certainty and I will post a confirmation if this is going to happen :D

That would be awesome. Just no clinics for my competion please!!!!! :D

Clinic!?

Yes Chile, a clinic. Jay will hold you down while Des gives you your shots. ;)

:cool: O.....K......Fine....I'm in. ;) I'll try and control myself Tommy!!! :) :) :) :)

JT call Smokey I almost have him broken.

STEPHEN BARKLEY AND JEFF KINDER WILL BE PLAYING ADVANCED AND DONATING TO OPEN

IF TITLE DISC ACCEPTED US THAT IS

I AM SO BORED STAYED AT WORK 2 1/2 HOURS LATE AND COUNTING I WANT TO GO HOME OR MAYBE BAKE A PIE "MMMM" PIE

Playing ADV and donating to open? How so?

Got my entry in. Is anybody coming down from OKC? If so, please PM me ASAP if you want to earn some gas money. Especially if you have a larger vehicle.

Bender, hit a tree for me!!! ;)

I'll hit two............for a PRICE /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

he is playing adv and Kinder is donating to open. try and stay up JR... :D

Looked likt they would BOTH be playing ADV and Donating like you will. :oLOW BLOW.

shouldn't you be getting ready for school??

Yeah Schooling you. :oYou can't handle this.

9 more days till we whip up on JT :eek:

Hey PO-TA-TOE. You going up Friday or Saturday?

I think he means playing LIKE adv therefore donating to open.

I'm in as well.
although I shouldn't...

STEPHEN BARKLEY AND JEFF KINDER WILL BE PLAYING ADVANCED AND DONATING TO OPEN

IF TITLE DISC ACCEPTED US THAT IS

I AM SO BORED STAYED AT WORK 2 1/2 HOURS LATE AND COUNTING I WANT TO GO HOME OR MAYBE BAKE A PIE "MMMM" PIE



all of a sudden i got really busy
what i meant was i will be playing advanced and jeff will be playing open.

Come down to Pleasure 2marrow and have a warm up arse whippin' session!!! Maybe we'll have mashed potatoes by Monday :eek:

Or Tator salad with lunch, French fries, scalloped what's ur choice. Better get ur practice on Tator Tot!!!! :D

Hey Sleepy Putter, where u at? Playin' rec. still? or are u gonna move up 2 juniors!!! :D

Recent List?

Thanks for the replies. Looks like a combination of Vic players going to the island and the fact that high winds aren't good for clinics will keep us out of Victoria for now. We'll be there next week 'fo sure.

If you haven't heard sign-up for VO now or be left out :D

Whats going on with Riverside Discgolf Club?? rumors

TROUBLEMAKER CHILE!

Everything is coool. Nothing to be talked about here.

Cool :cool:

Everything is coool. Nothing to be talked about here.



well we could talk about an updated players list :D

That would be good too!! Where you at Tommy??? I think the entries are comin' in so fast that he can't keep up with them. Isn't there some new technology that allows participants to be shown as they enter? :D
What's up Mitch? Glad to see you and Patty are gonna make it down..

any good places to eat around there

yea, just ask any local when u get there. All are close 2 the park..

Signed up Mike Ketchum REC today. James Diegal REC and Albert Valverde INT are planning on coming up from CC.

Talk about bad timing. Just as I am about to post a players list last evening, the board crashes. Due that, I was unable to let you know that we were nearly full and titleDISC would be closing this morning. As of right now the 2006 Victoria Open is FULL! If you were waiting to sign up you waited to long. :(

As of now, I will only accept a very limited amount of entries to make cards and hole assignments work best. If anyone wants to get on a waiting list, send me an EM or PM and I will start one. You never know, you might just get lucky! :D

Here is who got in:

MPO David Tomlinson
MPO RT Evans
MPO Matt Hall
MPO Chris Himing
MPO Jay Reading
MPO Jim Davidson
MPO Robbie Bratten
MPO Jeff Kinder
MPO Gary Robison
MPO Mike Olse
MPO Rob Engle
MPO "Toenail" Tom Robison
MPM Kent Bray
MPM Richard Gutzman
MPM Marcus Roberts
MPM Jerry Perez
MPM Brian Schmidt
MPM David Nesbitt
MPM James McCaine
MPM Keith Baker
FPO Patty Justice
FPO Laura Coffey
FPO Des Reading
FPO Danielle Vargas
MA1 Guillermo Avalos
MA1 Robbie Cooper
MA1 Trey Reeves
MA1 Tony Bender
MA1 Dusty Basnett
MA1 Epi Ramirez
MA1 Ryan Sawyer
MA1 Mitch Justice
MA1 Ed Coffey
MA1 Joe Herndon
MA1 Ken Ratliff
MA1 Jake Sisson
MA1 Jason Terry
MA1 Efrain Salazar
MA1 Guy Boyan
MA1 Brandon Elder
MA1 Erron Salazar
MA1 Stephen Barkley
MA1 Ruben "South Paw" Campos
MA1 Chris Cortez
MA1 Marcos Rios
MA1 Joe Ratan
MA1 Armando Marroquin
MA1 Gabriel Marroquin
MA1 Joe Deleon
MM1 Rhett Stroh
MM1 Mike Smith
MM1 Jack Camp
MM1 Gary Duke
MM1 Ed Morgan
MM1 Tom Breuer
MM1 Billy Nelson
MM1 Paul Taylor
MM1 Dave Durham
MM1 John Ince
MG1 Harry Kalthoff
MA2 Wade Dauner
MA2 Andy Scofield
MA2 Geoffrey Mysorski
MA2 Jim Yount
MA2 Gus Calvo III
MA2 Trey Van Dusen
MA2 Michael Simpson
MA2 Jody Curtis
MA2 Russ Evans
MA2 John Ledesma
MA2 Erik Engebretson
MA2 Michael Black
MA2 Randy Smith
MA2 Jason Eakins
MA2 Kevin Sullivan
MA2 Brandon Jones
MA2 Joseph Myers
MA2 David McKibbon
MA2 Kris Hartley
MA2 Lance Hankins
MA2 Travis Harling
MA2 John Arick
MA2 Sterling Kocian
MA2 Mark Hamilton
MA2 Toby Clarkson
MA2 Trey Clarkson
MA2 Justin Moore
MA2 Chris Flores
MA3 Jerry Lively
MA3 James Sustaita
MA3 Mark Sustaita
MA3 Justin Lesikar
MA3 Nick Parsons
MA3 Van Mason
MA3 Mike Ketchum
MA3 Jody Adams
MA3 Lou Torres
MA3 Julian Gomez
MA3 David Chapa
MA3 Adrian Constante
FW1 Megan Stroh
FW1 Susan Macaluso
FW1 Kat Bender
FW3 Tiffany Key

104 Players are going to have a whole lotta fun next weekend. :cool:

Wow. Filled a full week in advance.

That's a testament to how much people love to play this tournament and this course. Good job Tommy, and congrats to all who got in early. It's gonna be a **** good time.

Just received 2 more entries in the mail. Joe Hague, MPO & Tom Novak, MA2 are both in. Their entry was postmarked Feb. 9th. :D

If anyone has mailed their entry in and it is postmarked before today, Feb. 11th, I will put you in. :cool:

Hey Tommy is there water and electric at the rv site sir?
thx for your time.
Full huh, wow! :cool:

Wow I usually wait until the last second glad I didn't this time.

Unbelieveable. Not bad for a small south Texas town. Well done Riverside crew.

Is it Friday yet?

PS - Please, no wind next week. Had plenty of it today.

ok I just lost my doubles partner for friday...anyone up for it send me a PM

I need a doubles partner as well. I suck, but seem to play well in doubles.

looking very forward to the VO...see ya friday

krazyeye, justin moore is going and he will probably need a dubs partner..I will ask him and let you know..

RT, the RV park has water, electricity & sewer hook-up. There is also a dump station. They do not take reservations because it is on the honor system, $12/night I think. I have noticed that weekends seem to have a lot of snowbirds early Friday afternoon, but I have always seen empty spaces.

I see aalot of BAGGERS in Ma3 and Ma2. What up local baggers??? MOVE UP already!!! Oh yea, anyone that played Pleasure yesterday can submit an extra $5 to help the "stop the wind campaign"!!!! It was the most brutal wind I think I've ever played in!!! I can't wait till this weekend. Everyone make sure and give BIG thanx to Tommy Isenburg and the whole RSDG crew when you see them. They have put alot of hard work into running this tourney this year. It will no doubt be one of the funnest tourneys of the year!!! See you guys Friday.

hard to believe only 8 masters and 12 Open and the TOURNEY is FULL??? Time to start limiting the # of AM SPOTS

Yeah a lot of MPO and MPM guys I know weren't able to get in and don't check this board. :confused: Maybe a 60-65 am limit and 40 pros until a few days before the event. If the pro isn't full open it up for more AMs to get in. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

or make it 2 divisions am and open!! :p

That is actually a better idea but then all the adv guys would be mad because there is no MA1 division so they have to play up. Ok next year have a Pro pool and a AM pool with intemediate and rec divisions only. :D

hard to believe only 8 masters and 12 Open and the TOURNEY is FULL???




FPO Patty Justice
FPO Laura Coffey
FPO Des Reading
FPO Danielle Vargas



Gee Ladies, seems that you don't count :o:o:D

just giving you a hard time seewhere

As for you Scoot_er, you used to be one of us and now that you have gone to the other side, tell your other friends to get up off of there keesters and shake a leg next time. :D:D

You still have to agree that when a tourney starts to fill so early there should be division limits for early signups, and then the limits lifted about three days before signups close so that more AMS can enter if the pros don't sign up early right? BTW that was a major run-on. :D

The early bird get the worm! :D

Don't pro players put on their pants the same way as we do? :o

Since this isn't a major event where holding slots has more merit, I don't see where pro protection is deserved here. My thoughts, plan ahead guys, plain and simple.

That is the case for TSDGC, so any am players better sign up asap, you don't have a unlimited number of spots available to you. (in case anyone is interested)

Well I think that you should fill from the top down and you have to remember that not everyone has access to this board. I think a limit of 60 AMs and 45 pros is fair and if the Pro pool isn't full by the week of the event then the remaining spots are opened up for anyone. You must remember that anyone can play pro but not everyone can play AM. So it is more of AM protection by not limiting the field then assigning pools would be for the pros. :o

There is no reason for anyone to NOT have access to this web site. If you don't have a computer, I can get you one for $100 and there are even still free internet access numbers.

Shoot even my parents have dial up because there is nothing else available in there area (other than Dish access which is real expensive and not all that great)

As far as holding spots.

the first 105 players that signed up had a spot reserved for them.

At that point I would have considered 2 flights. A pro/Advance flight and a Am/Rec/Women flight.

The Pro/Adv tee off ASAP and then the B-flight tees off as soon as the last card comes in. This is the way tournaments use to be run back in the day. Most of the time, you didn't even know there were going to be two flights until the morning meeting.

You still have to agree that when a tourney starts to fill so early there should be division limits for early signups, and then the limits lifted about three days before signups close so that more AMS can enter if the pros don't sign up early right? BTW that was a major run-on. :D



No I don't have to agree. Pro players are notoriously known for signing up late. Looks like for the VO, they got bitten by their own laziness. Everyone of the players on the players' list was able to sign up early somehow...why didn't these other Pros follow suit? Maybe the Pros need a better grapevine to communicate?

BTW that was a major run-on.




That is why I teach HS Geometry and not English. IF you were talking to me, which in that case I don't mind, since I never really could write very well anyways, even with a spell and grammar check. :D If you are talking about yourself let me know who your english teacher is and I will email your last post to her.

By the way, I don't agree. For a major, yes. For a tournament who has been supported over the years by mainly the AMS, in which most tournaments are, no. I do not know of very many players who do not have access to this board and this DISCussion.

Why does it matter if it is a major or not? If an event is likely to fill give the higher divisions a better chance to get in and maybe it will cause some other people to move up a division and test the waters. Effrain's idea isn't that bad either as many event are already getting rid of MA3.

Why does it matter if it is a major or not? If an event is likely to fill give the higher divisions a better chance to get in and maybe it will cause some other people to move up a division and test the waters. Effrain's idea isn't that bad either as many event are already getting rid of MA3.



Got proof of events eliminating MA3?

Why does it matter if it is a major or not? If an event is likely to fill give the higher divisions a better chance to get in and maybe it will cause some other people to move up a division and test the waters. Effrain's idea isn't that bad either as many event are already getting rid of MA3.



Got proof of events eliminating MA3?




Buckhorn Open, Charlotte Open, and The Sneeky Pete. Pretty much all NC events don't offer MA3 and they have a really good dg scene. I though TSDGC was thinking about not offering a MA3 division this year.

Oh, you're talking about an area that hasn't traditionally offered MA3, not an area that did and now isn't. While you're at it, you could throw Outlaws onto that list.

Again, what is so difficult about signing up early that cause Pros to have trouble? I bet I know more Ams than Pros who had no idea when the VO is, let alone it was filling fast.

Wow, time for you to step down off your soapbox, boy. And it's a long ways back down to earth. You Matt, are the exception to the rule, not all of us were blessed with the gifts you must have gotten from your mother, LOL! No, to say that you need to elimiate Rec? Next you'll be suggesting that we cut out the girls, cause they are taking up pro slots, :) Just makes me laugh. Remember, it's the ams who help to make the whole experience possible. Are you supposed to punish or exclude those who are just entering the competitive scene? Ams foster the pros of tomorrow.

When you start making comments like this, it just illustrates that no matter what skills you command on a golf course, in the real world, you are infinitely deficient.

Only 13 internet savy rec players ruined it for the Open players..

Maybe instead of filling tournaments from the "Top Down" (do you have any idea how condescending that sounds?), TDs should fill touraments from the "top down", but rather than use divisions as the criteria, we use age. So the older you are, the higher priority you have in holding a tournament spot. The day before a tournament, if there are any spots left, the 18 and under kids can sign up too.

Sounds like a stupid idea, doesn't it? Well, that's because it is.

*** *** ***
The Problem with your plan, Matt (other than its false sense of superiority and self-importance), is that most of us lowly AMs have a life.

And as such, we need more than three days in advance notice in order to play an out of town tournament. So, if a tourney hits their "AM pre-reserved" number of spots, and you want to play, you'd have to wait until just three days before the tournament to play. Likely I wouldn't be inclined to play if I didn't know for sure if I'd be able to play only three days in advance.

Additionally, what happens when the Pros don't show up (which they commonly don't in large numbers)? And then the TD isn't able to fill his tournament with AMs in the course of only three days, because they already made other plans not knowing for sure if they'd have a spot?

Now, the TD suffers too --- he could have filled his tournament a week in advance with eager players, but since the Pros didn't fill their "reserved" spots, and there wasn't enough time to fill with Ams, the entire tournament suffers.

The real issue here is the sense of superiority and importance that Pro players think they hold above their amateur counterparts. Let me set you straight on that --- no pro is more important or better than any single am. player. Sure, you might be a better golfer on most days, but so what? If you believe that it's better for a tournament to cater to pros at the expense of ams, than you really don't understand what tournaments are about and why most of us enjoy them so much (in case you don't know, Matt, the key word in that last sentence was "enjoy").

So, you Pros with this illogical sense of entitlement need to let it go. I think it makes you sound like an #$*&$! to suggest that you are more important or better for a tournament than anybody else.

Very bottom line, if you want to play, sign up early just like all the other equally-entitled golfers (regardless of division).

To tell you the truth I agree that the "Pro guys" just need to sign up early and please not that I did. I know that there are a lot of events that offer Flights with limits 90pros/90ams or 45/45 and usually the pro fields don't come close to being filled so there are still a lot of spots offered. I would like to see a bigger pro filed but the fact is that if they don't sign up early they don't get in. Maybe next year there can be two weekends Pro/ADV and then INT and below. Even though I doubt there will be due to the effort involed in running an event I feel this will creat an even better tournament with a HUGE tournout.

I just was pretty excited two weeks ago when I heard numerous amounts of guys saying that they were planning on making the trip and I expected about 20-30 MPOs and 15 MPMs and then come to find out there is only around 20 all together. Sorry ladies I didn't tally your #'s.:D

Sorry to offend (if I did) but that wasn't my intent. I just have my own opinion on this subject and I have since I was still playing Jrs and I guess not many people agree with me.

We know, you just have the ability to open mouth, insert foot better than most.

I vote for field limits. A bunch of local recs are bad for the growth of the sport. Bare with me. No way no how should a group of guys or gals that play the same park day in and day out shooting low scores should come out and play rec. in a tournament. The fellas that introduced me to the game less than two years ago are starting to compete in rec. I say that is BS they are ready to compete and should play INT. Guys I met shortly there after have no business playing INT after 5 or more years. At least look in yourself and look at the definitions of the divisions. There are obviously exceptions to this. A player who is highly skilled should step up. Some folks just won't ever be good enough to do so. I'll be lucky to make advanced since I started so late..

We know, you just have the ability to open mouth, insert foot better than most.



And we know you have the ability to......... ok nevermind I am still a nice guy.

Oh yeah Rooster, Pros also have jobs and most cannot commit to an event two weeks ahead of time which is why there should be limits to certain divisions. This will let all players know what field size to expect before they go to a tournament.

We know, you just have the ability to open mouth, insert foot better than most.



And we know you have the ability to......... ok nevermind I am still a nice guy.



Matt, see there, you showed refrain and maturity in that post, and nobody ever said you weren't a nice guy. We all know you are a nice guy that is very outspoken with his opinions.

It would sure be boring if we all thought alike.

I do agree about those course regulars who are not "rated" playing down to "cash in" on the local angle. Doesn't a TD have the ability to determine where an unrated local should be playing? If the TD is local, he is usually aware of the skill set of regulars at his course, and could eliminate this from happening. If you know someone isn't a real beginner, they should have to play am even if they don't have a "rating"

But who ever said that life was fair. :confused:

Doesn't a TD have the ability to determine where an unrated local should be playing?



Authority, Ability, Desire.. Those are different things.

That boy sure can play in da wind doe!! :D

I'll be back on this subject soon as I get done playing the "Victoria Open"..... Start a new thread on PRO BS!!!!!! :DThe Vic. Open has been going on for a long time. It has had differant names, but always has been a good time. That is why there is a good turnout. We all have jobs and personal details, but if you make plans, go through with them. I mean----Who can wait till the last day to decide to drive for x amount of hours at y amount (per hour) so many miles and Z will pay for everything????

I was just comparing the # of players in each division this year to last years Vic Open and they are really about the same.

First come, first in. Pros are people too, and as such they are just as capable of pre-registering as anyone else. :)

I agree......Say Scoot, be happy U got in and are able 2 play!! It will be a privilage 2 watch u play against some KNOWN pros!!!!!! I can't wait to play and watch those who are better than I. But, our town is growing and so is the interest in DG. Did you start as a pro???? What if you never had a chance? It is called the "Victoria Open",,, not the"Open Open" Save the cryin' for WORLDS!!!!! :D

I live here and barely got in!!!! :confused:

I have often wondered why Pro players don't seem to be able to sign up early for tournaments. I think all three of Maces sanctioned events this year filled. Players need to get it together and register early if they want to attend. Both Pro and Am players have jobs and must make arrangements. Everyone should have seen this event filling from a long way away.

Everyone complained that there were too many events every weekend last year. I worked hard at removing doubled up weekends this year, and now people are complaining that events are filling early and they can't get in. Looks like all of the events in Texas need to be scheduled on 2 courses from now on.

All pros that can't get into the Vic. Open. I'll bet U can get into the Powell Deuce or Die!!! Sign up now for next years VO!!!!!!!! :eek:

Sweeeet. Gary is sponsoring another course in Victoria!!!! :p

Sorry, all of my sponsorship time is going into the new courses in Crawford Park. It will be some of the best Disc Golf in DFW and it should continue to grow until there are 3-4 courses in that park.

That's what I'm talkin' about. People for the sport, not for themselves!!!

Happy Birthday Matt!

Last year this event competited with Pro weekend of Z-Boaz, and that might have had an impact on the numbers. But the rationale that "pro's have jobs too" WOW, ARE THE PROS JOBS SOMEHOW DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE DISC GOLF WORLD?

We didn't have any pro ladies last year, so it's good to see you gals coming for a great weekend of golf!

The need for preplanning just becomes more apparent each year. I know I've paid for numerous tournaments in advance this year. Early entry fees help your TD's too. If you have the passion to play you find a way.

I'm ready for the Kolache stop in Hillje, so tell us more about the band for Saturday night.

HAPPY BIrFDAY MATT!! :p what are you 17 now??

17??? Get a job!! :o

Just kidding, Happy Birthday Matt. See ya this weekend.

happy birthday Matt

It is called Titledisc and it is very easy to use...or if you asked (like I did) Tommy would have sent you an entry form to mail in...And how old are you now Scoots, 13 or 14? :o

Happy B-day matt

I'm just busting your chops a little there Matt --- I think you're one of the good guys in and for the sport.

Happy birthday!

Happy Birthday Matt!
We need more pros like you!!!

Was there thought of adding some more temporary holes in the park?

It has probably already been stated, but what time is the player's meeting?

Happy birthday Matt.

4:20 A.M......... :D

Jason- we dont care when you went to bed!!!

Yes U do!!!

Oh, the band.. They are called The Alkoholic Helltones. Should be a blast. They are a local band and have been around for awhile. Don't ask what type of music, cause I can't explain all their differant styles. They will be setting up around 5 o'clock Sat afternoon. Just go up and talk to Patrick or Chris and they will give U any info U want. Or just hang out, grab a cold one and a chair and jam out!!! :D 5 more days, I can't wait.

What's the weather looking like for this weekend? Thanks.

How many ghost cards will there be? or will there be 2 flights?

South Texas weather, if you don't like it, just stay awhile, as it's ch-ch-ch-changing. Scattered Showers I think.

All you campers are gonna get wet!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are 2 new inventions: Tents and Umbrellas!!! :p

We'll be dancing in the rain. It's been so long, any rain drops that fall on my head will be welcome. Seen lots of forecasts over the past few months that promised rain and fell short, somehow, either way, a good time is assured.

I'll be sleeping high and dry in the Merry Miler anyway, no chance of a wet sleeping bag for this gal.

If it gets 2 bad, we can all pile in the Merry Miller!!!! :D

I've heard they can throw a mean party in there, and as I know the owner, I can't be refused a cocktail. LOL :D

lol :D

WEATHER:

Fri
Feb 17 Isolated T-Storms
79�/61� 30%


Sat
Feb 18 Isolated T-Storms
72�/48� 30%


Sun
Feb 19 Few Showers
58�/44� 30%

Sunday is looking a little cold.

Thanks Nelle for the weather update.

Hey Tommy, is there a final players list???

Maybe he is waiting for the mailman? With post marked entry's? ;)

Nah, Maybe he's calling 20 random ams to tell them that their spot has been taken by pros!!! :eek:

Question do non current PDGA members get bumped off by current PDGA members?

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Good Question ha!

Bumped from the tourney??

right

No, that will never happen in V-town. First come, first serve. This torney has and will be the same weekend every year for a while now. There are no excuses for not being entered in time. Well, unless anyone is jus' plain SCARED!!! :o

That was covered on one of the rules threads recently.

Once they pay the $5 temp membership, they are temporarily members and are treated the same as card carrying members.

Yea, what he said..

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BABE

Man this thread is Moving! :D

:) Happy Birthday You Lil' Sewing Machine :)

So then how about a final players list ;)

Just received 2 more entries in the mail. Joe Hague, MPO & Tom Novak, MA2 are both in. Their entry was postmarked Feb. 9th. :D

If anyone has mailed their entry in and it is postmarked before today, Feb. 11th, I will put you in. :cool:



He might not even get those entries until tomorrow if sent my US mail. Wow we are gonna be packed.

Does anyone know if Coda got in?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BABE



OOOHHHHH how CUTE!!!! :p

he's not on the list.

nor is Vinnie or Joe or PDP and more who claim to be going :o

Yepper this is gonna get ugly Just make this tournament with 2 pools.

Vinnie are you in? looks like you,Joe and Pete are not in ;)

Pete mailed the stuff on the 10th, him and Joe should be in.

sounds like I might want to bring a chair for this one

yes yes chairs and beer for all

Looks like we could use another 9 holes. 3 rounds of 27 ?

That would open up about 35 more spots.

they already have 21...so 6 more holes and rounds of 27...would open up 30 more spots :o

27 holes would be cool.

Probably Jason's fault it filled. He called people out on every thread that was remotely active.

yes, very cool.

Speaking of cool, Mitch and Patty, it is supposed to be pretty cool on sunday. Sounds like it might be SWEATSHIRT weather, if you know what I mean. ;)

alright James...your shirt has be placed in the box of used discs going to Victoria...no promises from me,but it is in the box :o

Thanks, just make sure there are no lightning discs in that box. :D

Y'all should've known this thing would fill early when li'l crusher and I announced we were going. :)

Looks like it will be a visiting only trip to V-town, since I didnt get paid in time to register......

Will probably drive up on Saturday and hang out, maybe stick around for a Saturday night party......

:D

Just be on the lookout for The Moffitt Rat on top of the van. Hope we see ya there! Maybe you can help Robert with the hospitality suite. Cong, I'm sure we can find a camp screwdriver for you to drink. LOL

Y'all should've known this thing would fill early when li'l crusher and I announced we were going. :)



Yeah! Blame the Californians!

So who's on the wait list? Joe, Pete, Vinnie, Coda :D:D

Check out there website there is a new note posted? Hum.. web page (http://www.riversidediscgolf.org/)

neat Huh...just what you want to see after you sent the check :o

I don't think that affects the VO at all.

let us hope not...but it could sway sponsors who might not be absolutely sure their donation would be used correctly...did not seem to stop a whole bunch of people from planning on coming :o...can not wait till the weekend

Hard to comment until both sides of the story is revealed....either way I'm going to enjoy the weekend and bring discs for the kids :D
Don't need no politics to interfere with the weekend...

Like we've never seen politics enter into the mix in our backyards. :eek: :D :eek:

exactly :eek:

Can there be disc golf without politics?

We can try :cool:

Live Oak has had there share of politic's. Also looking forward to this one. It always's work's out somehow.

Politics (N) The often internally conflicting interrelationships among people in a society. Allegedly withholding information and funds from a membership base is not politics. Screwing over your city manager, now that's politics!

Let's focus on the fun.

As a guest in Victoria, I want to fill my belly with golf, friends and lots of cold beer!

So, what time does the band start?

Thanks to everyone for the Happy B-day and I can't wait until friday as I will be getting there early. I might need a doubles partner so if anyone want to play let me know. Also on the website's header I made that putt in the ROF. :D

Who's the TD? I may need to withdraw and make room for another.

Good job on filling the event early. I love it when everyone signs up early. To those cry babies that missed out, how many times do you have to be told. Tough luck. Somehow around 105 people managed to do the right thing by the TD and actually signed up early.

The TD's job is to ensure those 105 people are taken care of at the event, have fun and enjoy the weekend they entered ontime, and not take cry baby phone calls from lazy Pro's that expect to be let in late.

See you all in Victoria.

By the way Matt you missed a fun day at Shawshank yesterday. I know you didn't show because you didn't think any Pro's would be there but in fact we had 9 Pro's in perfect weather.

I had Kid duties and couldn't get away in time. :confused:

Cool. Happy Birthday. See you on Wednesday or Thursday nights events?

Nope I am over an hour away from Mac and I am already missing school on Friday so I need to study some. :D

Happy Birthday. What time you getting there on Friday?

I don't know yet but probably around 1pm.

How about that player's list.

MPO David Tomlinson
MPO RT Evans
MPO Matt Hall
MPO Chris Himing
MPO Jay Reading
MPO Jim Davidson
MPO Robbie Bratten
MPO Jeff Kinder
MPO Gary Robison
MPO Mike Olse
MPO Rob Engle
MPO "Toenail" Tom Robison
MPM Kent Bray
MPM Richard Gutzman
MPM Marcus Roberts
MPM Jerry Perez
MPM Brian Schmidt
MPM David Nesbitt
MPM James McCaine
MPM Keith Baker
FPO Patty Justice
FPO Laura Coffey
FPO Des Reading
FPO Danielle Vargas
MA1 Guillermo Avalos
MA1 Robbie Cooper
MA1 Trey Reeves
MA1 Tony Bender
MA1 Dusty Basnett
MA1 Epi Ramirez
MA1 Ryan Sawyer
MA1 Mitch Justice
MA1 Ed Coffey
MA1 Joe Herndon
MA1 Ken Ratliff
MA1 Jake Sisson
MA1 Jason Terry
MA1 Efrain Salazar
MA1 Guy Boyan
MA1 Brandon Elder
MA1 Erron Salazar
MA1 Stephen Barkley
MA1 Ruben "South Paw" Campos
MA1 Chris Cortez
MA1 Marcos Rios
MA1 Joe Ratan
MA1 Armando Marroquin
MA1 Gabriel Marroquin
MA1 Joe Deleon
MM1 Rhett Stroh
MM1 Mike Smith
MM1 Jack Camp
MM1 Gary Duke
MM1 Ed Morgan
MM1 Tom Breuer
MM1 Billy Nelson
MM1 Paul Taylor
MM1 Dave Durham
MM1 John Ince
MG1 Harry Kalthoff
MA2 Wade Dauner
MA2 Andy Scofield
MA2 Geoffrey Mysorski
MA2 Jim Yount
MA2 Gus Calvo III
MA2 Trey Van Dusen
MA2 Michael Simpson
MA2 Jody Curtis
MA2 Russ Evans
MA2 John Ledesma
MA2 Erik Engebretson
MA2 Michael Black
MA2 Randy Smith
MA2 Jason Eakins
MA2 Kevin Sullivan
MA2 Brandon Jones
MA2 Joseph Myers
MA2 David McKibbon
MA2 Kris Hartley
MA2 Lance Hankins
MA2 Travis Harling
MA2 John Arick
MA2 Sterling Kocian
MA2 Mark Hamilton
MA2 Toby Clarkson
MA2 Trey Clarkson
MA2 Justin Moore
MA2 Chris Flores
MA3 Jerry Lively
MA3 James Sustaita
MA3 Mark Sustaita
MA3 Justin Lesikar
MA3 Nick Parsons
MA3 Van Mason
MA3 Mike Ketchum
MA3 Jody Adams
MA3 Lou Torres
MA3 Julian Gomez
MA3 David Chapa
MA3 Adrian Constante
FW1 Megan Stroh
FW1 Susan Macaluso
FW1 Kat Bender
FW3 Tiffany Key

They will be there to set up around 5 o'clock Sat. Not sure exactly what time they will start. As people will still be playing at set up time.I can't wait till Fri. It's gonna be a blast and no BS with all this politic crap. Let us do what we do and come enjoy the show that is gonna happen!!! Trust me, everything is cool and this will be the best Vic Open to date..

Thanks Lance, but that is not the final list. I received mail-in entries today for 5 Pro players, all postmarked 2/10. That should be about it. I will post the final players list Tuesday evening.

Thanks Lance, but that is not the final list. I received mail-in entries today for 5 Pro players, all postmarked 2/10. That should be about it. I will post the final players list Tuesday evening.



That's great... any preview on who got in?

Also, I'm guessing you are going to have some cards of 6?

sounds like ghost cards :D LONG ROUNDS

Joe t , PDP

Ghost cards... Always fun. But I guess it will be worth it to get Smokin Joe and PDP in the mix. :)

good luck Jim and KICK SOME AZZZ!!!!!!

Thanks Ware, I'll do my best (which as every golfer knows, is sometimes their best and sometimes far from it :D)...

Ghost cards, no 6-somes in sanctioned play.

Add a couple of more holes and ghost cards are not needed.

When is the player's meeting?

It takes longer to play extra holes than well spaced out ghost cards. I personally think ghost cards should not even be allowed in sanctioned play.

The skill in spacing the ghost cards and the locations of the different divisions on the course will also make a huge difference.

24 holes sounds good to me :cool:

Yes, it might take longer, but that time is probably spent playing, rather than waiting. I really don't remember the layout there all that well, but some am boxes on some of those holes might help.

so would that be 3 rounds of 24 holes?

Extra Holes, Extra Holes.
That is our bonus for signing up early ;)

Where's Atwood???

He's probably been watching li'l crusher's scores lately and is askeert!

He's just plain scared :D

Atwood is not skeered of anyone, Rhett if you want to challange someone challange me! you can step it up, bagger :DAtwood is a good friend so you can take it out on me ;)

you too harry ;)

El Chile, Atwood and I are due a rematch....if I can't beat him on the course I know I can outdrink him :p

Atwood is not skeered of anyone, Rhett if you want to challange someone challange me! you can step it up, bagger :DAtwood is a good friend so you can take it out on me ;)


Megan (li'l crusher) is challenging him, not me. :D

And he is askeert.

I have to agree with you, Chris, about ghost cards. Tournaments, sanctioned or not, should be allowed max 5 players per hole and that's that. 5 bogs things down enough. It's just takes away from the fun for me when you have to sit on the tee box and wait for the group ahead of you to finish on 1/2 the holes and it's harder to get in a rhythm. Ya gotta know that players who are in contention for cash really hate it.

I agree!!

In my experience the women end up on the ghost cards most of the time, behind the other women.

I agree too.

The only ones who benefit from ghost cards are the players who got to squeeze in despite signing up after the event filled and the TD (but only minimally). Oh, and I guess the PDGA benefits too from a few more PDGA fees.

I'd rather see TDs just take a stand and say, "Sorry, but we're full." Even if you have a post-marked entry. You'll just have to accept the refund and try to sign up earlier next time. By continually allowing more players 5/hole Max., the late-signers never really learn their lesson.
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With that rant out of my mind, I'm stoked about this weekend. Hope to be at the park no-later than 3:00 on Friday.

Rhett you posted it not lil crusher :confused: ;) Harry I hear that the only person that could out drink you was Jim.

Where's Atwood???

He's probably been watching li'l crusher's scores lately and is askeert!



That was for you, chile. :)

When are you going to step up to Open? :eek:

The great Gordo gives me a run.....need to drag him out of Austin, he'd enjoy this weekend :)

did that last year, and this year my shoulder is not 100% more like 80% I'm getting old :( gonna play pro masters.

and here I thought PDP kept you young :o:D

Chinger you should know what it is to get old :oI'm not that way ;)

What time is the player's meeting? :D

Rhett, you bring some warm clothes. It's not gonna be Socal weather.

Quick glance through the updated players rating --- anybody going to be forced to move up a division from where they signed up?

I see at least one: Trey Clarkson, signed up in MA2 --- new rating 927.

Trey, get Toby to play up in MA1 with you.

I'm moving up to MM1 because nobody else signed up in MG1 :mad:

Just my impression of things that make full courses run smoother. Chris is an expert, let's see if he agrees.

4 man cards in slower divisions, even if it means ghost cards in quicker divisions.

Short tees on the longest holes.

Spotters on all bottle neck holes par 4/5 holes to start the next card when the first card is out of reach.

Ghost cards on short/quick holes that are after long/slow holes.

Pro and Advanced players should be able to handle ghost cards better than other divisions.

No more than 3-4 ghost cards on the course.

The advanced masters are going to have to play in four man divisions. :eek: :D

I can deal with that :D

Most of the advanced masters play pretty fast. We don't waste a lot of time making up our minds what shot we want to throw. If we wait too long to throw, we'll forget why we got up. :cool:

If we wait too long we'll forget which disc is ours :confused: :D

That why I wear my on a string :D

I'm moving up to MM1 because nobody else signed up in MG1 :mad:



I was going to play MG1 but there was only one old dog playing :o:D

If you had of signed up we might have convinced a few others to play.....and who you calling old :eek: :p

Spotters on all bottle neck holes par 4/5 holes to start the next card when the first card is out of reach.



Gary, since spotters can be hard to come by, can the TD make a rule that on certain pre-defined holes where you know there are problems with schule, blind alleys, etc. that BOB has to spot, or it can be a courtesy violation?

Who is Bob?

Your imagery is pretty violent, it is time for the buddha Brian to reappear. :D

By the way, hope to see you there. It better not be another tourney where you are on the prereg, but not at the tourney. :p

hopefully ghost cards will not be needed
people get skeered when there's a little rain and cold

Sorry, James, work is killing me. So I'm fighting back in my avatar! I hope to know if I'm going tomorrow or not.

And BOB is usually me!

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Just my impression of things that make full courses run smoother. Chris is an expert, let's see if he agrees.

4 man cards in slower divisions, even if it means ghost cards in quicker divisions.

Short tees on the longest holes.

Spotters on all bottle neck holes par 4/5 holes to start the next card when the first card is out of reach.

Ghost cards on short/quick holes that are after long/slow holes.

Pro and Advanced players should be able to handle ghost cards better than other divisions.

No more than 3-4 ghost cards on the course.



That is basically it Gary. However it is never easy getting spotters. Somehow people never seem to send Bob out to spot either which doesn't help. Everybody always seems to think they won't throw off the fairway.

When a tournament fills it is full, and that should be it. After this I think I will petition the PDGA to not allow ghost cards at PDGA events. Someone earlier said it perfectly. Take care of the people that did the right thing and entered early, don't reward those that make life tough for a TD.

I am looking forward to playing this weekend. I think I will break out my "I am NOT the TD...ask someone else" t-shirt. :D

Chris :cool:

You did mean shorter tees for just some groups right Gary? Yikes, the last thing I would like to see is a compromised championship style course. I have been waiting to play a tournament in Victoria for some time now. In fact I sent my entry in early because I heard Victoria had a great tournament layout. I stick by the add more holes if you can, even if they are shorter style fill in the gaps type of thing.

This may be somewhere on here, but what is the format for the weekend? different pins, etc?

I hope they play last years format. I know that there will be some big scores unlike last year. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Back to the 1st page :D

When we started planning 06 VO, we never imagined that so many discgolfers would want to play in our little 'ol tourney. :cool:A HUGE THANK YOU to all for your support. :DYOU are the reason RSDG decided last year to run the VO ourselves and try to make it into one of the premier events in Texas.

Since last Saturday when I announced we were full, I have received so many phone calls, e-mails and PMs from folks trying to get in, that we could have easily filled two courses. :eek: Unfortunatly, we can only accept a limited number of entries on our only course.

This is the FINAL PLAYERS LIST:

MPO David Tomlinson
MPO RT Evans
MPO Matt Hall
MPO Chris Himing
MPO Jay Reading
MPO Jim Davidson
MPO Robbie Bratten
MPO Jeff Kinder
MPO Gary Robison
MPO Mike Olse
MPO Rob Engle
MPO "Toenail" Tom Robison
MPO Joe Hague
MPO Pete Lopez
MPO Vinnie Miller
MPO Joe Torres
MPO Shannon Fosdick
MPM Kent Bray
MPM Richard Gutzman
MPM Marcus Roberts
MPM Jerry Perez
MPM Brian Schmidt
MPM David Nesbitt
MPM James McCaine
MPM Keith Baker
MPM Steve Dufrane
FPO Patty Justice
FPO Laura Coffey
FPO Des Reading
FPO Danielle Vargas
FPO Emily Brown
MA1 Guillermo Avalos
MA1 Robbie Cooper
MA1 Trey Reeves
MA1 Tony Bender
MA1 Dusty Basnett
MA1 Epi Ramirez
MA1 Ryan Sawyer
MA1 Mitch Justice
MA1 Ed Coffey
MA1 Joe Herndon
MA1 Ken Ratliff
MA1 Jake Sisson
MA1 Jason Terry
MA1 Efrain Salazar
MA1 Guy Boyan
MA1 Brandon Elder
MA1 Erron Salazar
MA1 Stephen Barkley
MA1 Ruben "South Paw" Campos
MA1 Chris Cortez
MA1 Marcos Rios
MA1 Joe Ratan
MA1 Armando Marroquin
MA1 Gabriel Marroquin
MA1 Joe Deleon
MA1 Trey Clarkson
MA1 Kevin Willis
MM1 Rhett Stroh
MM1 Mike Smith
MM1 Jack Camp
MM1 Gary Duke
MM1 Ed Morgan
MM1 Tom Breuer
MM1 Billy Nelson
MM1 Paul Taylor
MM1 Dave Durham
MM1 John Ince
MA2 Wade Dauner
MA2 Andy Scofield
MA2 Geoffrey Mysorski
MA2 Jim Yount
MA2 Gus Calvo III
MA2 Trey Van Dusen
MA2 Michael Simpson
MA2 Jody Curtis
MA2 Russ Evans
MA2 John Ledesma
MA2 Erik Engebretson
MA2 Michael Black
MA2 Randy Smith
MA2 Jason Eakins
MA2 Kevin Sullivan
MA2 Brandon Jones
MA2 Joseph Myers
MA2 David McKibbon
MA2 Kris Hartley
MA2 Lance Hankins
MA2 Travis Harling
MA2 John Arick
MA2 Sterling Kocian
MA2 Mark Hamilton
MA2 Toby Clarkson
MA2 Justin Moore
MA2 Chris Flores
MA2 Tom Novak
MA3 Jerry Lively
MA3 James Sustaita
MA3 Mark Sustaita
MA3 Aaron Sullivan
MA3 Justin Lesikar
MA3 Nick Parsons
MA3 Van Mason
MA3 Mike Ketchum
MA3 Jody Adams
MA3 Lou Torres
MA3 Julian Gomez
MA3 David Chapa
MA3 Adrian Constante
FW1 Megan Stroh
FW1 Susan Macaluso
FW1 Kat Bender
FW1 Michelle Deering
FW3 Tiffany Key

It's time for fun in Victoria. See ya'll 2 days!

You did mean shorter tees for just some groups right Gary?



Yes, I rewrote that a few times and I guess it got left off on one of them.

Short tees when a hole is too long for a division to play it at par. I'd say that all Pro and Adv divisions can play that course without any changes without delay. Probably the Int men as well. It's all about drive distance. All divisions should be playing their upshots from about the same place.

114 players? We'd better start early. What's the format? How many holes? How many ghost cards?

anyone playing cards?? ;)

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That is basically it Gary. However it is never easy getting spotters. Somehow people never seem to send Bob out to spot either which doesn't help. Everybody always seems to think they won't throw off the fairway.

When a tournament fills it is full, and that should be it. After this I think I will petition the PDGA to not allow ghost cards at PDGA events. Someone earlier said it perfectly. Take care of the people that did the right thing and entered early, don't reward those that make life tough for a TD.
Chris :cool:



I'm with ya, brother Chris. If can help to back you up on this, let me know. I feel that if you pay $63 for an entry fee and well in advance of the tournament, you shouldn't be penalized with an overcrowded course.

My peace being said, I am happy to get to play this tournament after missing the past two years. I love this course. It's one of my favorites of all time and I do appreciate the Riverside Disc Golf Club for hosting it.

The Colonel

agree over crowded tourney's sux. Come on TD gets some balls and turn those folks away :D

:mad:
Looks like 25 cards on 21 holes, without putting multiple divisions on a card. Bring pillows everyone.

In case I dont tell you this weekend Tommy, Thanks for all you have done and hang in there. Lots of good suggestions for adding ghost cards, making shorter tees and adding more holes, all great ideas to keep in mind for next year!!!
Tator and I played two rounds in Vic yesterday, course looks FANTASTIC!!!
I want to get with you sometime on your double chain techniques.........We need to do some in CC..........

Everyone needs to stop their whining!!!
Everyone finally got a final players list and as usual a lot of you have a need to start finding things to whine about. Consider yourselves lucky to get in and enjoy a good weekend of golf. So what if we are going to have to wait at a couple of holes, bring a chair. The park is spread out very well with lots of shade............I know five guys here in CC that would love to be in the tournament, so we should all count our blessings instead of trying to give Tommy an ulcer!!!

Darn thats hitting the nail on the head :DLooks to be a Great weekend of Disc. Thanks Tommy and gang for hosting and TDing this Awsome Event. :DHope to see the rest of you Baggers this weekend also :D

ok...nuff with the b-----n...I need a dubs partner for adv on Friday

anyone playing cards?? ;)



:cool: Of course...playing at the La Quinta (host hotel, Thanks Tommy) $10 or $20 sit and go Hold'em....Leak,Leak,Leak :D

LIIIIIVVVVVEEEEEE OOOOOAAAAAKKKKKK will be in the house with 19 players :o:D

anyone playing cards?? ;)



:cool: Of course...playing at the La Quinta (host hotel, Thanks Tommy) $10 or $20 sit and go Hold'em....Leak,Leak,Leak :D



I vote $10 cash game , it makes the night a lot shorter!!

Eppie Salazar, poker is in Marcus Roberts room Marcus,Pete,Joe,Jerry,you,Vinnie, and anyone else? and we have to start by 8:00

EFRAIN SALAZAR!! not EPI , its eppie ramirez!! where you guys staying?

Yikes....4 ghost cards on a 21 hole course. Luckily, it's a well groomed park, and there shouldn't be much time spent looking for "lost" discs.

With that said, I hope the players meeting is very, very, very brief. Something along the lines of:
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"Thanks everybody for coming out and to most of you for signing up early. The 2 meter rule is/is not in effect. Remember that the new lost disc rule is also in effect for 2006: If you lose a disc, the penalty is stroke + distance, and you must re-throw from your previous lie. All concrete and beyond is OB, there are drop zones (list any) or mandos (list here) (if applicable). Here are the tees to be played by each division: (if they are different say it here).

I'd like to thank all the sponsors (read list very quickly).

Please be aware that the course is over-full and we're not in Day Light Savings Time yet...so keep that in mind and let's all try to be finished before nightfall.

Since the tourney filled well in advance, your hole assignments and cards were made yesterday. Pick them up (tell where), and I'll call two minutes in 10 minutes from right now. Good luck everybody and have fun."
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The entire players meeting could be done in <5 minutes. Feel free to copy and read this speech in it's entirety, Tommy.

HA!! Youre forgetting Himing will be there. :o:D

I'll bring duct tape for Chris :eek: :D

Eppie Salazar, poker is in Marcus Roberts room Marcus,Pete,Joe,Jerry,you,Vinnie, and anyone else? and we have to start by 8:00



Dave Durham and Kris Hartley are in :cool:

are ya'll at the La Quinta?