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cgflesner
Nov 21 2005, 12:17 PM
He played on live oak?

How could that be? :confused:

Isn't he a 990 rated player?

ozdisc
Nov 21 2005, 12:26 PM
Billy Moody #11034
Austin, TX, USA
Player Rating Information
Current Rating: 942 (as of 15-Sep-2005)

Anyone ever thought that the TD John Houck would not have allowed it if he thought it was wrong. So who is questioning John?

Surprising also how it is only after we win anyone cares?

Thanks for playing Billy, you are a true Team player.

One reason Live Oak B won TEAMS was because we were a TEAM. We all had fun as this event is meant to be. No harsh words, no blaming, nothing but fun as a team. Some others should try that someday.

Personally I had a good time playing against everyone I was matched against. It was good to be playing again.

Congrats to Live Oak A for making as far as they did. Live Oak is a fun place to play.

Now when is that "Key to the City" ceremony? :D

cgflesner
Nov 21 2005, 12:32 PM
I could care less I was just curious, and he lost to our Adv 1 so it didn't make a difference.

I was thinking of Dave Moody player rating 996.

By the way I heard you made the same putt on hole #10 that you made in our match for the win. Nice way to end the weekend see ya in Tyler. :D

seewhere
Nov 21 2005, 12:34 PM
Huge thank you to Houck and his staff for running teams. Glad we were able to clear up the LOB B vs RR2 issue before it was too late.

ozdisc
Nov 21 2005, 12:35 PM
I could care less I was just curious, and he lost to our Adv 1 so it didn't make a difference.

I was thinking of Dave Moody player rating 996.



No worries Chris. By the way, great shooting that round we played. See you in Tyler.

Yeti
Nov 21 2005, 12:40 PM
What a great weekend in the Hill Country.
I witnessed John make about five controversial calls this weekend and I didn't agree with all of the calls, BUT: He observed each situation from all angles and his decisions all had one common theme. They all sided on the angle of FUN :D
Fun is what this tournament is all about. You and Smitty's version of fun apparently was calling the people teeing from the white tees puzzy's. I know I had a lot of fun playing match play all weekend and being part of a team, being part of the Texas disc golf community.
Great tournament John :D There was an amazing amount of laughter out there this weekend.

esalazar
Nov 21 2005, 01:08 PM
great to see everyone having such a good time!! I will definately be playing next year for the 1st time!! :D

seewhere
Nov 21 2005, 01:42 PM
yes that was ok but not as much fun watching a 1000 rated player scramble on the last 2 holes for the TIE with a adv rated player. BOOM!!!
great OOH CHIT SHOT

to keep you in it :eek:

johnrhouck
Nov 21 2005, 01:48 PM
I witnessed John make about five controversial calls this weekend and I didn't agree with all of the calls, BUT: He observed each situation from all angles and his decisions all had one common theme. They all sided on the angle of FUN



Thanks, Jay. I would hope that all my decisions would be based on fun and fairness. It's not always pleasant to make decisions that might effect the outcome of matches -- that should be left up to the players and the course. But sometimes it needs to be done.

As always, we will discuss and learn and improve. This tournament is unlike any I know of, and we'll keep running into new situations and refining the procedures. I did get some good suggestions, and I'm always happy to hear more, espcially ones that are presented in the spirit of what's best for everyone... as opposed to what's best for the person making the suggestion.

I'm glad everyone had a good time, and I'm glad this this event achieves its goal of being unique and fun. Most of all, I'm glad that at this event, the real winners are the ones who value spirit and sportsmanship over skill.

wheresdave
Nov 21 2005, 02:28 PM
The real winners are the ones who value spirit and sportsmanship over skill.

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Thanks John in my case it has to be that way :o:D

ozdisc
Nov 21 2005, 03:08 PM
Live Oak B - 2005 Texas Team Champions

http://www.discgolfpromotions.com/images/LiveOak1.jpg

http://www.discgolfpromotions.com/images/LiveOak2.jpg

wheresdave
Nov 21 2005, 03:25 PM
Chris it looks like you were having bad cramps in that last pic I hope your feeling better now :D

Nov 21 2005, 03:29 PM
Man what great team pictures! Congrats! :D

seewhere
Nov 21 2005, 03:46 PM
thought Houck said he was not a "homo"???? :D JK great times for sure John and congrats on finding someone other than disc golf to spend sometime with!!

Jroc
Nov 21 2005, 05:11 PM
Who was on the Abilene team? I didnt even know we sent one??

Nelle 18131
Nov 21 2005, 05:29 PM
FLIPPIN SWEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!

Good job LIIIIVVVVEEEE OOOOAAAAKKK!!!

losotd
Nov 21 2005, 07:12 PM
Good job Live Oak "B"! "B" "B"ecause you're the "B"est!

the_kid
Nov 21 2005, 07:39 PM
Billy Moody #11034
Austin, TX, USA
Player Rating Information
Current Rating: 942 (as of 15-Sep-2005)

Anyone ever thought that the TD John Houck would not have allowed it if he thought it was wrong. So who is questioning John?

Surprising also how it is only after we win anyone cares?

Thanks for playing Billy, you are a true Team player.

One reason Live Oak B won TEAMS was because we were a TEAM. We all had fun as this event is meant to be. No harsh words, no blaming, nothing but fun as a team. Some others should try that someday.

Personally I had a good time playing against everyone I was matched against. It was good to be playing again.

Congrats to Live Oak A for making as far as they did. Live Oak is a fun place to play.

Now when is that "Key to the City" ceremony? :D



Yeah but you had two loses on the weekend right? :D
Congrats 5-STROKE

ozdisc
Nov 21 2005, 07:44 PM
Yeah but you had two loses on the weekend right? :D
Congrats 5-STROKE



Actually 1 loss and 1 tie in the round play to finish 3rd in our pool. It shows the strength and determination of our TEAM that we didn't let that get us down and came back early Sunday morning to shoot the best score in the mixmaster. We battled through the quarter finals, won a sudden death playoff, battled through the semis then went to a 3 hole sudden death in the final before the WIN.

What a great TEAM. :D

LIIIIIIIIIVVVVVVVVVVEEEEE OOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAKKKKKKK

the_kid
Nov 21 2005, 07:47 PM
Yeah but you had two loses on the weekend right? :D
Congrats 5-STROKE



Actually 1 loss and 1 tie in the round play to finish 3rd in our pool. It shows the strength and determination of our TEAM that we didn't let that get us down and came back early Sunday morning to shoot the best score in the mixmaster. We battled through the quarter finals, won a sudden death playoff, battled through the semis then went to a 3 hole sudden death in the final before the WIN.

What a great TEAM. :D

LIIIIIIIIIVVVVVVVVVVEEEEE OOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAKKKKKKK



I never really thought of it before but you can just not show up until sunday and still win. I like a double elimination thing so if you lose two round in the prelim you don't get to go to the MM or something like that but the whole format is still pretty good. We have already started strengthening our team for next year so watch out. :D

cgflesner
Nov 21 2005, 08:01 PM
Z-Boaz will be there again to kick your arses. :p

the_kid
Nov 21 2005, 08:02 PM
You better play Pro-1 next year :DYeah that was a good match in the quarterfinals though.

cgflesner
Nov 21 2005, 08:05 PM
Ya, Farhnam got demoted in next years roster.

I thought he had you for sure. :(

the_kid
Nov 21 2005, 08:19 PM
Ya, Farhnam got demoted in next years roster.

I thought he had you for sure. :(



He hit two 50 footers on the 1st two holes I mean I couldn't do much. I knew I had him after the 4th hole though. He is the kind of guy that has a bad hole and kinda slows down so I knew all I had to do is not mess up. I almost did when I threw my drive on #3 across #1's fairway. :D

cgflesner
Nov 21 2005, 08:28 PM
He did have two bad spits in the last three holes, but I have never seen anybody end up on #1's fairway and almost in the ditch.

the_kid
Nov 21 2005, 08:32 PM
The 1st spit would have stuck if he putted on a hyzer like us but that flat putt will just flip over and slid out half the time. The 2nd was a good putt just a little lo but I though with the high velocity it would still go in.

17280
Nov 21 2005, 08:33 PM
Good job Live Oak, ya�ll were great sports to play against in the semis, especially with the playoff change. It was a great shot Thunder made out of the woods against Shannon.
Thanks John and staff, we all had a great time!
Circle C�ya next year
:cool:

jasonc
Nov 21 2005, 08:48 PM
Congrats to Live Oak on the win, you guys had a pretty strong team and there was a pretty strong field to get through. Thanks to Houck for providing the players of Texas with one of the most enjoyable formats every year, there aren't many TD's that could pull it off like you do.

As always Arlington had allot of fun and we are hoping to do allot better next year, even though it was nice to get home early ;). It was great to see everyone and we can't wait till next year.


Check out the Misc section for a caption contest on the photo of the Troll and Yeti, we should be able to have a little bit of fun with it :D:D

jbolstead
Nov 21 2005, 08:57 PM
Scooter is just mad that we took out the Bass-Clowns on the last shot of all nine matches. Either way, Robbie and I's match had some huge moments.

About Billy Moody playing only on Sunday, that's legit if he's on the roster, but subbing shouldn't be allowed. I believe he smoked our Am 2 player b/c I know that I didnt't play him in the Z-Boaz match. Trust me, I would recognize the guy as he lived in Stillwater, OK and taught me a few things.

Congrats to Five Stroke as they won it all through play-offs and were pretty cool to play.

Last comment - How about Z-BOAAAAZZZZZ - Representing with a strong 3rd place showing after coming out of the mixmaster. Thanks for calling on me to play Fles! Now give me my disc :D

cgflesner
Nov 21 2005, 09:20 PM
Ya I talked to Brad today and he told me that guy smoked him, so I say we are co champs. :D

Since the guy he was replacing was their Adv 1 and they put him in the Adv 2 spot. :(

slow1der
Nov 22 2005, 12:57 AM
Actually... he replaced me as the Adv 2 player... not Adv1.
And believe me I would have been there to play if I hadn't been sweating bullets from a 101 fever and coughing up large quantities of lovely green mucus. Why can�t you just accept the call that John made and leave it B�like the one that stung the roof of Turbo�s mouth after taking a swallow out of his drink on Sunday.

Everyone played well and represented well. This truly is the best tournament format I�ve played. I wish I could have been there for the 9 man alternating� it must be tough to have to stick to the order of players you chose before the match even begins.

seewhere
Nov 22 2005, 09:52 AM
man I would have loved to have Billy sub for me on Sunday after spending 2.5 hours in the emergency room sat night getting stitches in my hand. :confused: maybe next year rosters need to be submitted with 9 players and 2 subs just in case.

Erroneous
Nov 22 2005, 02:01 PM
Seewhere why couldn't you play in one of RR's ADV spots? Your rating like b moody's allows it?
also i heard of other teams w/ no shows & they just took a point against them, are substitutions normal?

rtinsa
Nov 22 2005, 03:36 PM
Should of got in touch with me. I can do stitches no prob!

dizzard
Nov 22 2005, 05:33 PM
had no idea we could sub. lou moreno was dying with a cold/fever and sounded horrible. lou was'nt going to let his team down though as he is tough, he plays zilker afterall.
seriously we had a great time, great event and the best "camp" of all. thx so much to team justice for sharing thier piece of the hill country with us. next year we will be back!
curious observation... in adddition to the circle c (austin) add on to the champs they have a lot of people with san marcos addresses and yet san marcos remains an emerging team???
none the less mr. steinbrenner congrats!

james_mccaine
Nov 22 2005, 10:10 PM
Thanks John and staff. It was a lot of fun.

Special thanks to all the Waterloo team members and mom. We represented very well.

Congrats Live Oak.

And most of all, special props to our awesome captain Mitch. He is my new hero. :D

slow1der
Nov 22 2005, 10:51 PM
lou moreno was dying with a cold/fever and sounded horrible. lou was'nt going to let his team down though as he is tough



I played discgolf a week after having my appendix removed (which was stupid thing to do anyway)... it's not a matter of being "tough"... there is a certain point when your health just doesn't allow you to play.

Hope your feeling better Lou... and congrats to Houck again for putting on yet another fun tournament

Pizza God
Nov 22 2005, 11:03 PM
I would like to sponsor a Carrollton Team next year, anyone interested????

I would really like players who call either Carrollton course there home course

dizzard
Nov 22 2005, 11:04 PM
hope your feeling better also shawn, lou is my new hero because he's....tough:).. in a healthy way. seriously he was really sick all weekend and had to feel like crap.
mitch sign the legends putter for him, it helps.

ozdisc
Nov 22 2005, 11:07 PM
Wow Shawn we should call our team Live Oak Survivors next year. You played without an appendix, I played after loosing an eye, and Turbo got the roof of his mouth mauled by a killer bee 5 minutes before the Semi Final. All this while Yeti was watching his back from the attack of the Houck Monster.

Team Live Oak are Survivors :D

dizzard
Nov 23 2005, 12:24 AM
one of our guys has just one nut! so the story goes.

seewhere
Nov 23 2005, 09:35 AM
dang dizzard now that's a real survivor :o

dizzard
Nov 23 2005, 10:02 AM
crazy night in old mexico. ya gotta be careful!

gordonmk
Nov 23 2005, 11:59 AM
Thanks John and all that great Circle R Staff for a wonderful tournament! :D And big thanks to Team Justice for housing/yarding/feeding the two Waterloo teams all weekend. We all had a blast, and the feasting and drinking couldn't have been better.

Patty was a most excellent Teams Mom. Up early each morning making us breakfast, making sure everyone was up and out the door on time, bringing us custom ordered sandwiches for lunch on Sunday, having pies, snacks, and tons of great food ready at all times. Thanks Mom!!! :D

Both Waterloo teams in the semi-finals, who'd a thunk it? And us, Waterloo One, going all the way from the mixmaster to the finals (just like 2 years ago), and taking down the more powerful Waterloo Too team in the process. Wow! What a great Sunday of disc golf. Saturday wasn't too much to brag about :o, but Sunday sure went well.

Finishing the Finals regulation 9-hole matches against a very poweful Live Oak B team with 4 wins, 3 losses, and two ties. Pretty **** good. And under the old rules, good enough for a Victory. With the addition of "no ties" though, we just couldn't hang on (with me being one of the ties who lost on the sudden death holes :(). Maybe next time we should play a little slower so the dark prevents any tie-playoffs. :D

Of course, we wouldn't have even been there if Mitch (excuse me, I mean Captain FacePlant - be sure to ask him about the fire incident saturday night :o), hadn't pulled some major heroics and won his sudden death playoff against Pease. We finished tied with them 4,4,1; so Mitch makes an awesome drive right down the pipe on #4 rolling meadows and then cans the pressure straddle putt for the birdie. I think he was walking on clouds for the rest of the day.

Thank you to all my Waterloo teammates, I had a very fun time playing and partying with you. And I had some cool folks to play against too. Chris, Ben, Jan, Z-Boaz threesome in the mixmaster, Leon, Lou, and finally Turbo. Great competition and great people.

Congratulations to Live Oak B! Finally a new champion. Although I'm sure the always-strong Arlington will be back next year for another run. And we'll be there too; having fun (the whole goal of Teams after all), playing disc golf, and hopefully winning just a few more matches.

Get better soon Lou and Shawn and Chris!

Yeti
Nov 23 2005, 01:08 PM
The Waterloo Teams were inspiring good times all weekend, what a fun crew. Des and I enjoyed your sportsmanship and what you all represent to the Texas disc golf scene so much we both joined the Waterloo Disc Golf Club. :D
You guys lookin' for some ringers :eek: for next year, JUST KIDDING EVERYBODY.

Congrats to the SMuDGe crew. Maybe San Marcos will come in established next year............but, unil then.........
Liiiiiiive Oaaaaaaak!

seewhere
Nov 23 2005, 01:18 PM
thanks Gordon

mitchjustice
Nov 23 2005, 04:40 PM
WaterloooooooooooooooooooooOne...I would like to thank all the team members for our awesome run...Big thanks to our Team Mom(you rock)...Big thanks to Houck for the funnest event of the year(again)...congrats to Live Oak "b" on the victory...and yes I did fall in the fire saturday night(and yes I was really drunk)...we get closer each time in the finals(2003 we lost 7-0-2) and (this year 5-4)...there is no way a team played better than we did this weekend( we had 3 players rated above 900) and we took an international all-star team with a world champ to playoff holes(wow what fun)...Cap't FP Justice out till next year :D

LouMoreno
Nov 23 2005, 04:55 PM
I'm alive and well, just in time to eat more than my share of turkey tomorrow.

Thanks, John. I learned a lot about how a TD should handle complaints last weekend. You always took them with a grain of salt and replied with a smile on your face. You're my new hero even though you tried to ride a Yeti. :D

Thanks to Team Justice for the feast, accomodations, and hospitality. Great times at the Hall of Justice.

Way to go Waterloo. Both teams represented well and played hard all weekend. There was lots of great sportmanship and spirit on both squads. I can't wait for next year.

mitchjustice
Nov 23 2005, 06:39 PM
Welcome to the club Jay and Des...we might have some openings on our "c" team for next year :o...and after seeing Yeti get "houcked" after the win,it might be better to come in second anyway :o

JasonChaffin
Nov 24 2005, 04:17 AM
Temple plus Waco will be there next year......Count on it :DDont know about the victory, but we will out party yall "or at least i will" :D
Sounds like alot of fun, congrats to all :cool:

17280
Nov 25 2005, 11:29 AM
Special thanks to Gordo for getting my disc back to me. :cool:
That's the only disc I've ever had returned in competition, I wish more golfers had your honest, sportsman-like attitude.

atxdiscgolfer
Nov 25 2005, 12:20 PM
thats Austin for ya. giving back peoples disc always brings good luck, I found a brand new Starfire the other day and gave it back, went to Circle C the next day and shot a good round. I just wish that people would give me back mine, at Searight you have to kinda expect not to get your disc back but at Circle C its a different story.I saw a guy at Searight a while back that gave me this story about how he didnt have any discs so I gave him an XD and another driver, I went to the play it again sports next to my house a couple of days later and found it in the used disc pile. I hope that brought him bad karma.

mitchjustice
Nov 25 2005, 12:36 PM
Waterloooooooooo...Ian and Blair N.(you guys also had disc turned in ), i will leave your discs with Moody(do not know who turned them in)...probably on Saturday

justice
Nov 26 2005, 12:21 AM
We weren't kid'n....This ain't no city course :D. Getting lost plastic back to people is very important to us. If you lost a disc, it wasn't found, & you didn't write it down on the 'Lost Disc Log' please email me at [email protected] with the details. I'll keep my eyes open.

PJ

pterodactyl
Nov 26 2005, 12:08 PM
Did Lubbock have a team?

seewhere
Nov 26 2005, 12:10 PM
nope

Nov 26 2005, 01:16 PM
Congrat's Live Oak B!!!!!

As always, the best tournament of the year!!!!

We will be back again next year, and with a better prepared roster!!!

MOFFITT RATZ!!!!!!

pterodactyl
Nov 27 2005, 01:13 PM
nope



No!? I thought that the Windriders were playing really well and did well in the last tourney. Or was that 2 years ago? Anyway, what happened Lubbock?

p-katt
Nov 27 2005, 01:50 PM
Miles, time, and no one stepping up to organize...were the demise of a Lubbock showing. And such a shame in that we really have some very good players right now.

okcacehole
Dec 05 2005, 06:46 PM
Paging Houck

John - I heard you were selling off the San Saba buckets for $200 each...I tried to PM you but you have them turned off.

Are there still some baskets available and what would you charge in shipping to Dallas?

Thanks

mitchjustice
Dec 07 2005, 10:00 AM
and while we have your attention...Who won "best dressed" and "most spirtited"?...thanks