Yes, it's almost summer, and that means LOSO! Live Oak City Park, now home to 37 permanent holes, will host the 2005 Live Oak Summer Open. I will serve as your humble TD for this awesome 2 day PDGA B-Tier event. We already have $200 in added cash and it will just go up from there, so don't miss this one! Details to follow as they are developed.

wow , you guys have 37 permanent holes now!! sweet!

Awesome! Have only played the course once, but I can see it becoming a favorite after I play it more. My wife and I plan on being there!!

Thanks, guys, we're counting on the Rock to show the Live Oakers how disc golf is really played (or not) :D

Oh and did I mention the permament triple mando hole? :eek: Yikes!

I am confirmed to play this one. My parents are arriving from Australia a couple of days before so they will be there with me to watch me win. I can't wait. 3 Aussies are coming to Live Oak. :cool:

That's Great Brian, $200.00 added cash already AWSOME I bet with the help of some of our Brother and Sister clubs out there you will get alot more :DBrian will you be having a raffle too,if so I'll look to see what I have to donate /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Yeah, Dave and thanks to you for your donotion already! Don't know about a raffle yet, still working on details. I'm setting up a planning meeting with the City Manager and Parks Director (the Joes). Will post the time and place once I get it if others want to join us.

Next year, this needs to be scheduled not on the weekend before worlds. The third of my favorite courses that I will miss this year.

Not my call on the dates, James, this just got handed to me. Not sure how the dates were picked, but I'm sure it went through the vetting process. I hope!! Besides, Worlds, Shmurlds :D

No, I'm not mad at anyone in particular. It just kind of irks me. I mean, from June to August, we have like 12 weekends and one good two-day tourney that I look forward to in south-central Texas. The weekends around pro and am worlds should be reserved for the lesser tourneys.

This usually conflicts with Am Worlds. Because of the bigger music festival in Eastern PA that occurs when Pro Worlds usually happens, the two Worlds got switched this year.

With Am Worlds being in Tulsa next year, LOSO may be pro-only in 2006. :)

Edit: I agree James. It's Atwood's fault.... :)

Well, thanks, we'll take that as a compliment! And I agree, hopefully that will be taken into consideration in '06.

With Am Worlds being in Tulsa next year, LOSO may be pro-only in 2006.



I hope not, we'll have to find a reasonable date in '06!

Am worlds, GO PRO!! :Dbagger :D:DFFFiivvvveee SSStttrroookkeeesssss!! Skeet are you gonna play LOSO??

can't do it, gotta TD this baby! Gonna be a good one.

So whats gonna be good about this one? last year's was ok.

Just come and you'll see!

I will be there, are you offering a Pro Masters division?

you betcha. and advanced masters.

Cool see ya there.

how about rec master :eek:

Move up rec master :D:D:D

Why move up I'm have to much fun as a BAGGER :eek: :D

But your only playing with your self :D:D:Dplay int. :Dor you could play am grand master with Jack Camp :o:D:D:D

Now, now, no picking on Dave. It's hard enough to just play rec.? :o:D

Thanks I think :D

Hope I get to make this one again this year......will have to work the day of the TX 10 in Live Oak.....

Circular Productions is on board as a proud sponsor of LOSO! Pick your own payout this year, and I guarantee we won't run out of plastic. LOSO is OSO SWEET!

Great Job Brian and THANKS CIRCLAR PRODUCTIONS :D

Ams get plastic, so this is a B-tier event that means added cash? how much?

$250 minimum, we hope to have more. care to contribute?

Edit: I agree James. It's Atwood's fault....



Ain't everything? ;)

not lately :Dso where you been :Dyou playing this one Mark :D

All I've got to say is JOE TORRES is going down!!! :mad:

:)

I've got to say that you are both going to get taken down by LOPEZ!!!! :D:D

I've got to say that you are both going to get taken down by LOPEZ!!!! :D:D



thats funny!! :D

You will see. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

The Live Oak Disc Golf Alliance
Announces the
2005 Live Oak Summer Open
July 23-24 at Live Oak City Park, Live Oak, Texas

Format: PDGA �B� Tier Event, minimum $500 added cash to pro divisions, maybe more!

Friday, July 22: Flex Doubles sign up 3pm - 5pm, $20 per team
Saturday, July 23:
7:30am to 8:30am: Late Registration (event limited to 135 players, so sign up early!)
8:45am: Players Meeting
9:30am: Round 1 tee off 27 holes
1:00pm to 1:45pm: Lunch
2:00pm Round 2 tee off 18 holes
Sunday, July 24:
8:15am: Round 3 tee off 27 holes
12:00pm to 12:45pm: Lunch
1:15pm Top 4 Open Men/Women, Advanced Men/Women Compete in a Safari Final 9. (No Masters.)
3:30pm: Awards Ceremony, Pick Your Own Payout!

Entry Fees: (includes $3 per player PDGA Fee, and players package for all amateurs)
Open Men/Women: $63
Master Men/Women: $53
Grand Master Men/Women: $53
Advanced Men/Women: $43
Advanced Master Men/Women: $43
Advanced Grand Master Men/Women: $43
Intermediate Men/Women: $33
Recreational Men/Women: $15 (Players pack and trophy only as payout.)
Non-PDGA members add $5 to the entry fee.
Note: it takes a minimum of 4 players to make a division.
Optional Ace Pot: $2

Other: The �Where�s My Red Wildcat� Long Drive Competition, lunch provided both days for a small fee, Ladies Of Live Oak raffle (proceeds to LOLO and the Live Oak Basket Fund), LOSO T-Shirts and discs for sale, 37 awesome permanent holes, and the Lions Club selling water and soda on the course.

To Register: (soon to be posted on www.titledisc.com (http://www.titledisc.com))
Send name, address, phone number, PDGA #, player rating, division and entry fee/ace pot to:
LOSO c/o Brian Schmidt
116 Towne Vue Dr.
San Antonio, TX 78213

Other: The �Where�s My Red Wildcat� Long Drive Competition

I am so there!!! :D I will get my check in the mail ASAP

Great, see you there seewhere!

Awesome. Glad to know that I've already taken that Friday off...

27 Holes per round? Survivor golf!

27, 18, 27, safari 9, the 27's are in the lovely, cool mornings! No worries :D

Lets fill this one early :D27 holes each morning nowhere but LIIIIVVVVEEEE OOOOAAAAKKK

Will the Safari 9 be after a cut?

Yes :D

Hi Danielle,

The Waterloo Club will be happy to sponsor LOSO with $100 worth of merchandise. Just send me a PM or an email and tell me where to mail it, and we'll send it down after COTO.

Thanks Gordon and WATERLOO!!!! Brian Schmidt is now running LOSO and he will be happy to hear it.

Waterloo is so great to be able to sponsor merch for other touries so make sure everyone supports Waterloo!!

OK, I give up. What is a safari 9 format?

We will make up 9 extra long holes for the final 9. Some as long as 1,500 feet. It will be exciting to watch the big dogs let those long drives and rollers go.

I'll have to watch that!

LOSO Update... trying to get LOSO on titledisc.com asap. Got our first registered player, Jan Baumgartner, thanks!! Tony and Kat Bender donate plastic to LOSO, you're awesome and on our t-shirt! The magnificent Waterloo DGC offers sponsorship, yes indeedy!

Our new LOGO is almost complete, will get discs and shirts made. Should be muy bueno!

If you want to sponsor LOSO, contact me, $50 or more gets you or your club on the t-shirt! Be a part of something special, something exciting, something OH SO LOSO!

you playing this one Mark :D



Am I allowed?

No, you have to run the drawing to see who goes to the USDGC from TX.

Mr. Atwood, we would be honored by your presence!

Do you have to be at the tourney to be in the drawing?

Well, Mr. Schmidt, if that's not some secret code for "a lynch mob awaits," I may just try to pull this one off.

It'd feel weird, but cool to play in a LOSO. :)

Please tell me that you're keeping the dreaded Isle of Despair?

(If for no other reason than to frustrate McCaine.)

I have a prior engagement in Pennsylvania, otherwise I would be whoopin donkey on that island. :p

Don't lie, the only reason you're running scared to PA is because you fear The Isle of Despair!

Yes, that island is gonna cost me alot of time and money. ;)

You don't need to be present to win, but I think there was a matter of a stipend required to be considered as eligible. This would be used to cover the winners entry fee (hopefully).

You have to finish among the top 5 Texan scores in a B-Tier or above this year prior to and including LOSO. The winners will be drawn there. Everytime you qualify it gets you another ticket in the hat. I'll start publishing a list of qualified players soon.

Man, if I could just host a B-tier in Burnet (and only me, Bender, GnD, Vinnie and four other random players showed up), I'd have a shot to go in the hat.


:cool:

Ah, the dreaded Island Hole. I may make this tougher this year, but easier on the scores... 30 foot perimeter around the basket. If you get it in, great, otherwise you putt from anywhere outside the perimeter with a stroke penalty. Should lessen the 2 to 8 score swings we have seen. Subject to change without notice, all rights reserved.

2-8? More like 2-15. :)

Brian, your suggestion would be way more popular of an idea, I'm sure.

I loved the idea of the hole the way it was. I felt it was easy enough to be fair, but dangerous enough to change a round if played incorrectly.

But I'm not sure if I would ever do it that way again, since there have been some solid arguments as to why it was inappropriate for a B-tier event. Even old dogs can change their stripes...er...or something like that. :)

Man, if I could just host a B-tier in Burnet (and only me, Bender, GnD, Vinnie and four other random players showed up), I'd have a shot to go in the hat.



Would that include the course record holder Mark? :D

I am really looking forward to playing the LOSO although the 27, 18 hole format is a worry. Why again won't the PDGA let us use golf carts? I think I will change up my sunshine and no rain dance to a cool day with a breeze day dance. Maybe I will need a caddy. ;)

Chris :cool:

I thought the golf cart thing was only for NT events.

Both rounds of 27 are in the cool, Live Oak mornings. Only the round of 18 and the safari 9 are in the heat of the day. Besides we'll have lotsa water!

But I'm a flexible guy, or at least I was when I freestyled. What about 18, 18, 27, final 9? Or 21, 21, 27, Final 9?

Yes Thunder, you could be one of the random four. I'd only need to be in the top five to qualify for the drawing.

Those other three guys wouldn't give me a problem. :)

so flexible :D

Yes Thunder, you could be one of the random four. I'd only need to be in the top five to qualify for the drawing.

Those other three guys wouldn't give me a problem. :)



when will this take place , i will clear my calender!!

Mark can only loose by double digits to me so many times a year before I am banned from his card. :D I am already way over my limit from the last few years.

Now Mark don't you have a newspaper to write...slacker :D

Brian when I see you next I will show you some examples of formats as we spoke about last week. Some good and some bad for the reasons we spoke about. See you early next Thursday.

I kinda like 21, 21, 27, safari 9. We can start the Sunday round pretty early and really beat the heat.

:)

I don't wanna drift on the LOSO thread, but believe me Efrain, you'd be more than welcomed to be one of the top four, along with Thunder.

(BTW, everytime Chris talks about his course record, he should be required to include the fact that he also made the worst golf shot of his life during that round.)


Now back to your regularly scheduled LOSO/27 vs. 18/Isle of Despair/LODGA tourney talk. :)

I would throw my hat in on this one but that to would go further then your drive :oso I wont :Dit would just be add pressure on you Mark :o:D

Yes, I actually have so much work to do that I can't seem to find a place to start.

I just felt like slacking on here with you guys for awhile, since I never get to do that anymore.

I miss (some of) you guys. :)

:cool:

Sorry, didn't mean to kill the thread. :)

LOSO is one of the best B-tiers in the state, despite my struggles last year, because of the great people in Live Oak and the City of Live Oak.

Its also one of the best collection of golf holes in Texas, since it has a little of everything and asks you to be able to do so much.

If you're out of state and wanting to see a great Texas summer PDGA event, you'd be well advised to make it to the 3rd Annual LOSO.

Whazzup Athole......

Busy?? Yeah, riiiiight.........

:cool:

Well here's another first :Dme and Atwood agreeing on something :DHope you can make it Mark I hate being DFL :o:D

Yes, it's almost summer, and that means LOSO! Live Oak City Park, now home to 37 permanent holes, will host the 2005 Live Oak Summer Open. I will serve as your humble TD for this awesome 2 day PDGA B-Tier event. We already have $200 in added cash and it will just go up from there, so don't miss this one! Details to follow as they are developed.



Mark this one down :D

Well here's another first :Dme and Atwood agreeing on something :DHope you can make it Mark I hate being DFL :o:D



That would be hard because Atwood doesnt play Rec anymore he moved up like the rest of us. :eek:

No harm intended Dave, but I've played a round with you at Live Oak once before and you're not a Rec player, we should all keep that division open for the new guys to the sport.

LOSO UPDATE!

New sponsors: Red Rock of Shame, Sports Unlimited, Kimiko Barling.

Format change: Round 1: 21 holes, Round 2: 21 holes, Round 3: 21 holes, Round 4: Safari 9 for top 4 open and advanced. We'll have 37 permanent holes and 5 really cool temp holes.

LOSO now on www.titledisc.com. (http://www.titledisc.com.) Start getting those entries in. Field limited to 210 players :D

Check out the new LOSO graphics in my signature link designed by graphic artist Kimiko Barling and mother to one of our favorite players Josh Barling! We'll have custom discs for the am players packs, and t-shirts as well.

I'm close to $700 in added cash too!

Don't miss this one!!

That's Great New LIIIVVVEEE OOOAAAKKK

Ok, my mind was trying to figure out how bodily functions could be included in a player's pack. Thankfully, I'm at a loss. But the question remains, what is the Red Rock of Shame Sponsor providing? :p

We're waiving our appearance fees, James. :p

Having never played the Live Oak Open, but wanting to this year, would someone please inform me where Live Oak is? Thanks

Having never played the Live Oak Open, but wanting to this year, would someone please inform me where Live Oak is? Thanks



It's in the City of San Antonio - Richard - BTW, nice shooting at COTO...

North San Antonio...

Do you know where the dog track is up North...near Universal City...exit is Topperwein, I believe? Well, the City of Live Oak is just a couple of miles to the East of there.

Should be able to get directions off the Course Directory.

Click on the link below "LODGA BABY", and you will find directions to Live Oak. And remember everyone, Live Oak is an incorporated city with their own Mayor, City Council, speed trap cops, etc., not a part of San Antonio (they hate that!!)

San Antonio and DG mixes like oil and water. Live Oak is like melted butter on toast! MMMMMM!

Registration Form can be downloaded or you can sign up on www.titledisc.com (http://www.titledisc.com)

Registration form: http://home.grandecom.net/~bschmidt/2005LOSO.pdf

I have some discs on e-bay to sell to raise money for the Live Oak Summer Open. Check out...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7158806893&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7158807169&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7158807724&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

Winning bidder gets their name on the back of the tourney shirt, and if you win with a bid of $30 or more, I'll include a t-shirt when they are printed.

Let the bidding begin!

I received my first out of state registration today... Big Will Cralle from Kennesaw, Georgia playing Open Pro! Make this a huge success and I'll push for "A" tier status for next year! Thanks Will, looking forward to seeing you.

Sign up early and often :D

How about joining this fine list of LOSO sponsors! Your name or company will be forever immortalized on the LOSO Tournament T-Shirt. $30 gets you on the shirt, and you will receive a shirt free at the tourney! What a deal! What a bargain! What a way to support Live Oak!! Remember a portion of the proceeds goes towards improving AND expanding the Live Oak Disc Golf Course. Mas $$, Mas holes!

Sponsorship is easy! Paypal me at bschmidt@grandecom.net, send me a check (contact me for address), or see me at the course or tourney near you.

Sponsors to date:

Brian Schmidt - $100
RT Evans - 4 Discs + $50
Red Rock of Shame - 2 CFR Starfire Discs
Waterloo Disc Golf Club - Discs (pending)
Circular Productions (disc sponsor)
John Frost - $10
David McKibbon - $130
LOLOs - $50.00
LODGA - $300
Sports Unlimited - Discount on Shirts
Innova - Disc Sponsor (pending)
DGA - Disc Sponsor (pending)
Tony and Kat Bender - Discs
Circle 786 - Ice
Kimiko Barling - Artwork
Jody Curtis - $30
Corey Peschke - $30
Let me know if I missed you!

I am sure I can speak to the Texas 10 guy and twist his arm for a $50 bundle of product.

I will also make sure Twin Parks chips in for you.

Would you like anything from Australia brought over. My parents are arriving 3 days before so am sure will make a little Aussie donation. :D

How about a Koala for the raffle? :)

Maybe for next year. I am thinking US Quarantine may hold it for a while. Something about transporting live animals?

How about a Koala for the raffle? :)



Platypus for DFL.

Thanks Chris for not being a bludger, I'm grinning like a shot fox! Don't burden your oldies with unnessary fossicks and seizures :D

Australian slang courtesy of http://www.koalanet.com.au/australian-slang.html

WOW, the last sale was so successful, I have added three more discs on e-bay to sell to raise money for the Live Oak Summer Open. Check out...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7159252161&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7159252906&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7159253492&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

Winning bidder gets their name on the back of the tourney shirt, and if you win with a bid of $35 or more, I'll include a free tournament t-shirt when they are printed.

Let the bidding begin!

Thanks Brian for all your doing :D

my pleasure!

I have some discs on e-bay to sell to raise money for the Live Oak Summer Open. Check out...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7158806893&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

Great Idea Brian now its in the players hands to get the add cash up, So lets bid on these items and make this one of the highest add cash tournement. Help us help you get a bigger pay out :D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7158807169&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7158807724&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

Winning bidder gets their name on the back of the tourney shirt, and if you win with a bid of $30 or more, I'll include a t-shirt when they are printed.

Let the bidding begin!

Brian you can add the DOUBLE R to that list of sponsor for at least $50 in merchandise. thanks

Will do, thanks!

Welcome aborad Chris, let make this one the biggest LOSO. Be part of history and get your donation in :o:D

http://home.grandecom.net/~bschmidt/LOSO3.gif

Wow, got a check for $150 in the mail this weekend from Wade Dauner to sponsor LOSO! With that check I am guaranteeing $800 added cash, and I still have nearly two months to go. It will be more! Thanks Wade!!

Wade is my LOSO HERO :cool::D

Dave McKibbin just pledges another $200 in his son's and daughter's names: Evan and Chevaun McKibbin. Thanks Dave. We may have to name this event after you :D

Brian money isnt what makes it happen :DIts the time and effort you have put forth that makes the Event and what an event it will be :o:D$1000.00 added cash and growing :DLET'S GET THOSE ENTRIES IN NOW

Your doing a great job Skeet, keep on adding more cash! :cool:

thanks, we are at $900 added cash, and growing.

Please support the local corner store ( Circle 786/Cheveron) on your way into the park. The owner is totally on board with Disc Golf and will be providing all the ice for the day during the rounds. :cool::) Thanks!

thanks, we are at $900 added cash, and growing.



Excellent. That will convert nicely to Aussie Dollars for me to show my parents around. Good job Brian.

Next time I make it to Live Oak to play I will bring my donations for the tournament. Not sure when however for reasons you know.

Can't wait to LOSO :D

Chris

Don't forget your fee to play here..............

I remember our / your little challenge. I think we need to have a gallery for it. I am still game for Lopsided Skins Challenge are you? We start on Hole 15 right? :D Play with the Ladies and I will let you start on a close hole :D

Brian any chance of having a golf cart arranged for my parents to ride around in?

you'll have to check with LOPAR for that Chris. I'm sure he can set them up. come on down thursday and play doubles with us.

so what WOULD be fair for a PRO v. 761 ranked player? You can have all of YOUR fans (mom and dad) present for this. And I wouldn't insult the lolos if I were you. :D:D

I have listed a new Candy Fund Raiser 2003 San Saba World Doubles T-Bird TL @ 170g on E-Bay. This disc is rare because the San Saba course is being sold, and no more tournaments will be held there. So get a piece of disc golf history! This disc originally sold for $25.

I am selling this disc to raise money for the 2005 Live Oak Summer Open in Live Oak, Texas. Portions of the proceeds from this tournament will go towards course improvements, so you are helping a great cause. Winning bidder of $30 or more will have the option of having their name on the back of the Tournament T-Shirt and a tourney t-shirt will be delivered to you once they are printed.

I have two of these great discs, and only one is on E-Bay right now. If you want the other one, also 170g, PM me and make an offer greater than $25.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7160602012

Play with the Ladies and I will let you start on a close hole :D



CHRISTOPHER!!!! :eek: You know better then this!

You're lucky Nelle hasn't seen this yet. :D

so what WOULD be fair for a PRO v. 761 ranked player? You can have all of YOUR fans (mom and dad) present for this. And I wouldn't insult the lolos if I were you. :D:D



Ouch. Same bet as you offered before. The LOLO's are my friends remember. :D Ask around and see how I play when they are present. :D

Back to LOSO. Golf carts?

Now that BAB has decided to go with C-Tier sanctioning, LOSO is the last event where a player can qualify to represent Texas at the 2005 USDGC. The winner will also be drawn from the eligible players at the awards. To see if you are qualified to register for the drawing, look at the current standings at LSDGA.com (http://www.lsdga.com/news/index.php) .

As of now, only one eligible player has registered.

I will pay you at LOSO for the privilege to repersent TEXAS

You've got the best odds of anyone with 7 qualifying finishes. Only players already qualified for the USDGC in WACO have more qualifying tournament finishes.

WOW, the last sale was so successful, I have added three more discs on e-bay to sell to raise money for the Live Oak Summer Open. Check out...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7159252161&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7159252906&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7159253492&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

Winning bidder gets their name on the back of the tourney shirt, and if you win with a bid of $35 or more, I'll include a free tournament t-shirt when they are printed.

Let the bidding begin!




These are about to close and some have no bids Bid and Bid fast Help Brian Help you

we are very excited to be a USDGC qualifier! Thanks Gary! I'm pretty close to guaranteeing $1,000 added cash too, come get you some! Just cherry picked some fine plastic from Circle "R" for the pick your own payout. Some sweet dyed Orions, yeah!

You mean a qualifier for the Texas representative to the USDGC, right?

check your pm

Sure James, that sounds right!

That is correct James, and LOSO is where the drawing will take place.

We are fortunate to have a number of women playing in Texas. With the efforts of great TDs like Chris Himing and Vinnie Miller, not to mention the success of the TWC, Texas is quickly becoming the place for women to succeed in disc golf. The ladies of live oak (LOLOs) headed up by our very own pro Danielle Vargas, and ably assisted by Laura "Baby" Karshis, are really moving things forward and getting more women involved in the sport every day.

In that spirit, I want to make the Live Oak Summer Open a venue where women feel comfortable and are excited to play. Hopefully, by lowering the entry fees for the ladies, while at the same time raising the payout, we can generate some excitement and get the ladies to LOSO! So all entry fees for ladies have been lowered by $10 (except recreational which is already $15) and I will pay out 110% to all women divisions. Maybe this will set a trend?

Entry fees for ladies are:

Entry Fees: (includes $3 per player PDGA Fee, and players package for all amateurs)
Open Women: $53
Master Women: $43
Grand Master Women: $43
Advanced Women: $33
Advanced Master Women: $33
Advanced Grand Master Women: $33
Intermediate Women: $23
Recreational Women: $15 (Players pack and trophy only as payout. But I'll add something special!)
Non-PDGA members add $5 to the entry fee.

HECK YA!!!!! Good job Brian!!

Thanks for supporting women in disc golf.

So ladies mark this on your calendar and get signed up!!!!

Nelle,

Put me down for another LOLO sponsorship this year ---

However and to whomever you want to award this sponsorship,...I'll pay the entry fee + an Urbangrounds disc golf t-shirt to one of the Ladies of Live Oak.

Keep up the good work.

SWEET!!!!!

Robbie ROOSTER Cooper has always been a huge supporter of women in disc golf. THANKS ROOSTER!!!

FOR INFO ON THE CIV./MIL. TNMT. SEE THE LODGA SITE.

Thanks Rooster!

I like my friends in S.A. you all know who and what I'm talking about :)

Alrighty guys and gals, Laura Karshis has found a hotel deal for LOSO. Thanks Laura! There are other hotels in the area, but they are much higher due to summertime rates.

Motel 6 also off of IH-35 that cost is
$58.99 plus the 16.75 % tax rate = $68.87 for Friday & Saturday night. If you decide to stay on Sunday too the rate is lowered to $39.99 + 16.75% tax rate = $46.69 for Sunday only.

If you are interested in Motel 6 the address is 9503 IH-35 N. Distance from motel to course is about 10 mins max. Plus there is a little bonus! Motel 6 is right in between Adult Video and Adult Video Megaplex :D

Back to details, when reserving please ask for Linda Wright @ 210-654-4425 and make sure you let her know that you are calling for the LOSO Disc Golf Tornament rate. You must reserve by July 8th or rate will no longer be available, also you must reserve with a credit card to hold the room, but do not have to pay with it. There is no continental breakfast or anything like that.

added bonus!
maybe megaplex can get get videos for the players packages :D
Atwood would play /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

lmao!! get your rooms early!! i procrastinated last year and paid the price!! :confused:

You're welcome Brian, if anybody has any questions, need directions or problems getting a room

Please pm me or call me.

(pm request for cell number please) :cool:

This one is getting close so sign up before it fills up :Dover 900 dollars added cash, so you my want to sign up twice :D

$1,000 added cash so far.

Great Job Brian :D

$1,000 added cash so far.



Let's Not Forget To Sign Up For This One :D

Just signed up for LOSO. If no one else does then I get first place, right? No worries Skeet, I will make sure the city's responsibilities are carried out before I tee off. Btw, what will it cost to not be OZZED? You know, being sent out to no man's land for each round? :D

Thanks LOPAR. If you make enough mules available, we can shuttle people to their holes!

Hey LOPAR, get out of that truck and cart and start walking the course some. Then you will be in shape when those tournaments come and you get OZZZED. :D:D

Btw, what will it cost to not be OZZED? You know, being sent out to no man's land for each round? :D



Your only way is to play Pro, then you will start on Hole 1 with me. :D

I thought that by NOT bagging, one could be closer (see you know who). Jimbo, you remember the LAST time we were on the same card? :eek: And yes, Mr. Oz, should I not fear being physically stuck in a tree by the likes of Vinnie, I would play pro and give you a run for the $$$ :D.

huh? what?
How did I get dragged into this?
Lets see how are AM Dragons do this year?

It's a point made out of respect to you, Sir Dragon.

How fast is LOSO filling? My wife and I are not sure if we will make it or not...dont want to get left out because it filled

I here all the Top Pro's are coming :D

Great!! But, Im not near that caliber ...yet :D

Signed up for this one this morning :) Figured if I didn't Nelle would disown me :eek: Looking forward to playing this event and having some fun with the LO's I do not get to see a lot of! See you next month!! :D

smart girl. :D

What other women are coming to this?

We have room for 210 players, so don't worry about filling up. But early entries are nice, as it makes it less hectic the day of. Ladies, if you sign up on titledisc, i will reimburse you $10 for the difference at the tournement since I lowered the entry fees.

I only have about 10 entries so far, so when it gets a little bigger I'll post a players list.

Only a month away, let's get those entries in. Over $1000.00 added to this wonderful B tier event. :D

I have started a registration list and will keep it updated...

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4949

Nerts!! I now have competition in int. It's not too late to call it full, is it?

Brian your doing a great job. This is a big tournament I suggest that you all try to make this event.

Yes Brian, this is a big event. I suggest you try to make it. :D

By the way, Congrats on Gonzo. I saw you whipped them yungins. ;)

Thanks, Jerry!

Here's the format for LOSO:

Pro and Advanced Divisions play City Hall, Lake, City Hall, Safari 9

Rec and Intermediate divisions and adv grand master divisions play Lake, City Hall, Lake.

Lake Course:
1,2,3,4,5,5A*,5B*,6,8,9,10,10P*,11,11A,11B,12,13,1 4,15A,15B,15C
Note: Rec divisions and Intermediate women play 15B short.
* 5A is a temp hole about 450', 5B is a temp about 320', 10P plays from 10's tee box to the practice basket, about 150'.

City Hall Course:
15,16,17,17A*,17B*,18,19,20,21,22,23,23A,23B,23C,2 3D,23E*,24,25,26,27,28
Rec divisions and intermediate women play 17 short, 23 short, 24 short and 25 short.
* Temp holes

2 meter rule will not be in effect for this tourney. Concrete will be in bounds for the first three rounds unless otherwise specified in the handout (like hole 4!)

Safari 9 format to be posted later, but count on 15-16, and 27-28, both over 1,300 feet! I played 27-28 the other night, and took a big fat 5!

signup at www.titledisc.com (http://www.titledisc.com), remember, women take $10 off the entry fee (except rec).

Question about the Lake setup/flow...9-10-10P-11A...

Where's regular #11? Do 10 and 10P share the same tee box?

why do safari type holes always favor big arms? :confused:

why do safari type holes always favor big arms? :confused:



You would think "Safari" holes would be through the thickest, nastiest schule on the course... :)

for real , it makes no sense!! for instance you play solid golf all weekend and end up in the final 9 only to be stomped by all the big arms because they throw alot further!! kind of defeats the principles of skilled golf!! :confused:

thanks, I added back 11, forgot that one!

as to the safari golf, those are the only two long holes. the others are shorter like hole 4 which will be an island hole during the safari round only. Concrete will be OB during the safari round, so just throwing long is not good enough, you have to be accurate.

I don't know what Brian has planned, but you are assuming that because the length is long, that it favors big arms. You have played very long holes where accuracy is more important than length.

oh and yes, Tony, 10 and 10p share the same tee box.

I don't know what Brian has planned, but you are assuming that because the length is long, that it favors big arms. You have played very long holes where accuracy is more important than length.



I agree on tight wooded holes , distance is not the biggest factor!! A fair hole is a fair hole, keep it technical! :D

Oh it will be technical! I may even string out some OB rope :o

yeah buddy , bring on the string!!! :D:Dand no 2 meter rule!! :D

Brian, will the discgolfers be able to use the swiming pool or do we have to pay extra to use the pool?

Almost a month away. I can't wait this tournament is Awesome every year.

yes should be fun

How do you squeeze a temp hole between 10 and 11?

Hey Brian Count me in to help Staff ,I wont be able to play yet .So what ever you need me to do just let me know .

Thanks Billy, I will put you to work for sure!

The hole between 10 and 11 is 10P. We play to a practice basket between the parking lot and the ball field. It's about 150 feet and we play it pretty often during minis. We use the same teebox as 10, just throw the opposite direction from it. I like it because it allows the newer players a great opportunity to get an ace, although to my knowledge it has never been aced during a mini, hmmm!

Yes, the pool will be open, and I beleive Joe Minella is getting pool passes for all players and family members. It will be welcome relief I'm sure.

Ok, so here's my safari hole thoughts. Comments are welcome, but be nice, i'm old and i carry a badge!

All concrete OB!

1) Hole 1 played as an island hole. Roped off 30 feet circular perimeter. Throw and miss the island, go to the drop with a penalty. Keep throwing from the drop with penalty till you hit the island. Drop will be about 75 feet or so.

2) Hole 4 played as an island hole. Roped off in a square with a concrete border. Throw and miss the island, go to the drop with a penalty. Keep throwing from the drop with penalty till you hit the island. Drop will be about 75 feet or so.

3) Hole 5A. This hole plays about 450' from beside hole 5's basket to beyond the playground by the pavillion. Possibly a mando hole to protect the playground.

4) Hole 5B. This hole plays about 350' from the pavillion to the other side of the baseball field near old tee 6's box. I think this was used at last year's LOSO or one of the Texas 10s. I like it.

5) Hole 6, which now plays about 320 or so. (I'm measuring these later today and will update this.)

6) Tee 9 to Tee 13's basket. Maybe 420?

7) Hole 14 with OB rope on both sides of the fairway. Maybe about a 50' wide fairway for 280 feet.

8) Tee 15 to 16's basket. Concrete and beyond OB on the left side. Plays about 1,300 feet.

9) Tee 27 to 28's basket. Concrete and beyond OB on the right till you get to a divider drainage ditch, then it opens up safe on both sides. Plays about 1,300 feet.

hahahahahahah(evil laughter ) Old wise one you are very evil almost bordering on the Dark Side. :D

no kidding!! the last 2 holes are what a half mile in length, combined!! :p

Is the Safari 9 a 'Final 9'?...only for certain divisions?

back to back 1,300 footers thats awesome!!!!

for you it is!! what 2 drives and an up shot for drop-in 4!! :confused:

Actually, it worked out to 1,220 for 15-16 and about 850 for 27-28. I'll post exact measurements soon. Headed to Del Rio today. Remember, concrete OB and beyond on those holes makes them pretty tight, but the fairways are really nice and open like a ball golf course! Should be fun to watch, I'm looking forward to it.

JRoc, safari 9 is for top 4 in the pro and advanced divisions only. This includes masters (not grand) and open women since I got a lot of email asking me to let them play the safari too! If a division does not want to play the safari, I need to know before the tournament starts.

Smokin Joe Torres signed up last night to defend his title. Sign up at www.titledisc.com. (http://www.titledisc.com.) or:

Entry Fees: (includes $3 per player PDGA Fee, and players package for all amateurs) Ladies except rec take $10 off the entry fee!
Open Men/Women: $63
Master Men/Women: $53
Grand Master Men/Women: $53
Advanced Men/Women: $43
Advanced Master Men/Women: $43
Advanced Grand Master Men/Women: $43
Intermediate Men/Women: $33
Recreational Men/Women: $15 (Players pack and trophy only as payout.)
Non-PDGA members add $5 to the entry fee.
Note: it takes a minimum of 4 players to make a division.
Optional Ace Pot: $2

Other: The �Where�s My Red Wildcat� Long Drive Competition, lunch provided both days for a small fee, raffle (proceeds to LOLO and the Live Oak Basket Fund), LOSO T-Shirts and discs for sale, 36 awesome permanent holes, and the Lions Club selling water and soda on the course.

To Register by mail:
Send name, address, phone number, PDGA #, player rating, division and entry fee/ace pot/$5 non-PDGA fee if necessary to:

LOSO c/o Brian Schmidt
116 Towne Vue Dr.
San Antonio, TX 78213

$1,000 added cash to this PDGA "B" Tier event. Just ordered the full color disc for the am players package, should be sweet!

That's titles, Brian. I'll see ya tomorrow.

:o

Joe did Pete get some tickets for the final game?

I actually entered on Titledisc yesterday! No backing out now...however I do want a golf cart Mr Lopar. ;)

Seewhere you never answered my question if you wanted a side bet? I will take a no response as a scared response. :D

Here is my personal opinion about Safari 9's. There still needs to be a variety of short and tough holes that form part of the original course. One reason not to change up the holes too much is so that the potential gallery actually knows where people are throwing to, and also so they can compare how they play that hole.

When it comes to long stretched out holes that is fine as long as it is tough enough that scores will likely flucuate. In Gonzales last Saturday several holes are a very bad length because 1 player can have 2 bad drives and an upshot and putt and the other person can have 2 good drives, upshot and a putt and get the same 4. This is purely because the hole is between shots. What Brian is doing on the OB cement should help which is good. I look forward to playing them in the final. :D

LIIIIIVVVVVEEE OOOOOOAAAKKKK

Plain and simple. Mule for teebox. :D:D

Seewhere you never answered my question if you wanted a side bet? I will take a no response as a scared response.

I am in for $10. its going to be hot and I have not seen the kangarooo play when it is TEXAS HOT!! I have seen him hop way from several events due to heat though :eek:

The 2 meter rule is ALWAYS in effect in Live Oak! Got to play the hole and don't hang it out to dry.

Plain and simple. Mule for teebox. :D:D



Done deal. Your choice of holes. I am also still in for the Lopar Skins Challenge. We should do it just before LOSO.

Seewhere don't you remember how hot it was last Saturday? I think the kangaroo bounced away from you all day in the heat. $10 it is.

Can't wait to play and stay...and not work :D

I think the safari is a pretty good mix of long and short and technical. 1 (island),4 (island),5a,5b,6,14 are all the same as you play in the first rounds, except for ob rope on 14 and of course the islands. yikes! The three long ones are 9-13, 15-16 (which Chris 4'd before!), and 27-28 which actually measures out at 725. But the last two have concrete AND beyond OB. Not easy for anyone including long arms.All the holes offer a decent viewing area for the gallery to follow and watch in awe :)

Thanks for the entry Chris! Don't forget flex doubles on Friday. I'll also take signups then as well.

Check out Chris Himing! He loves Live Oak!

http://veepers.budweiser.com/service/RetrieveCard?id=kbrwfHxK2rgqaAKk3HSmAa

The shorter holes sound good Brian. The OB rope is also good (I have played 2 USDGC's) but I am unsure about the length of the longer holes.

Yes I have shot a 4 on Hole 15 to 16 but realistically everyone will take a 5 whether they are a long or short arm.

Hole 27 to 28 is likely to be a simple 4 for the entire group.

Next time I am there we can both play them with a couple of Advanced buys and see what happens. My only concern is that the particular hole is likely to produce the same score regardless of good or bad throws like a couple were in Gonzales.

By the way Gary has lots of yellow rope I am sure you could use. :D Yellow rope and orange flags are going to a nightmare for some people.

Good job Brian, looks like the turnout will be a good one. We should think of a way to put my parents to work. I doubt my Dad will want to carry my bag all weekend.

Thanks again,
Chris

Chris, which holes in Gonzales were producing the same scores for everyone?

#9 maybe?
I threw three mediocre shots and missed a makeable 20' putt for 4 in round 1.
Round 2 was good shot, bad (70') shot, mediocre shot, 30' putt.
Everyone seemed to 4 it, as long as they got some distance each shot.

#14 sticks out as well as an automatic 3. Uphill makes it tougher to run for a 2, but it's open enough to deliver a 3 from just about anywhere.

(Yeah it's thread drift.... :p)

What is thread drift? 14 I would agree. I'd be surpised on #9. I'd be curious if there are stats behind the observation, or if there are stats available for some of the other T10 locales?

No stats James just what I noticed from the groups I played with and saw. I was a player this time. :p

I agree with Tony on his very advanced observations :D Number 9 happened to the pro cards just the way Tony explained in his groups.

14 is also as Tony explained.

I also think Hole 11 at 280 feet is way too easy. :p

Thanks
Chris

Darn, not one comment on my video. I worked so hard on it! :D

Quiting time gonna go win dubs then watch the SPURS win their 3rd WORLD title GO SPURS GO !!!!!!!!!!! how ya like that Jerry ya fu@^ing hater

No hater, just going for the BETTER TEAM the team with more Americans :D:DCan Duncan make his free throws? NOT!! :DGo to bed early Pete you got to work tomorrow :D:)

Darn, not one comment on my video. I worked so hard on it! :D



what video? Go spurs!!

http://veepers.budweiser.com/service/RetrieveCard?id=kbrwfHxK2rgqaAKk3HSmAa

haha!!! :D

Jerry
When Can I Get my cash??????

http://veepers.budweiser.com/service/RetrieveCard?id=kbrwfHxK2rgqaAKk3HSmAa




Hey Brian take your mouth away from the mic, it sounds like he is still in his mom's pouch! :D:D

Wish he could just speak english!?!

THANKS WATERLOO for the huge sponsorship package you sent! Can you feel the love??!!!! LOSO does!

I just checked out the video Brian was talking about...prick! :D

You guys only wish you could speak like me. :cool:

The only foreign accent i could use was scottish, and i didn't want to offend you with that! :D

JRoc, safari 9 is for top 4 in the pro and advanced divisions only. This includes masters (not grand)




Does this include Adv. Masters and Open Masters?

yes all pro and advanced divisions, including masters, unless your division opts out before the tourney.

JRoc, safari 9 is for top 4 in the pro and advanced divisions only. This includes masters (not grand)




Does this include Adv. Masters and Open Masters?



silly texan....there's no such thing as OPEN masters :D

I have a question. What happens during tournaments for recreational players? Is the park closed?

I am a casual player. My girlfriend and I like to travel to play courses. Of course, we schedule around tournaments. But, the weekend of the 15th, I have a feeling the Austinites will be playing the course to prepare for the tournament, and I'm not sure how the weekend of the 4th would fair.

Please advise. I was hoping to drive up and play Live Oak and then Universal City since I've never played either, always having gone on to Austin to play all of their courses.

Live Oak has 36 holes, there is plenty of room for all casual players anytime except during major tournaments like the LOSO on July 23-24. UC is always open and available. And did i mention, both courses are always mowed and trimmed!

LOSO Registration List Updated:

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4949

Sure are a lot of Joes playing this one, 4 out of 11 players signed up. We need some more Open players to sign up, where u at Jim Davidson, don't be scared. Going for 3 in a row, who wants my title? Bring it!!

Your time has come little Joe T. I will be there remember. Time to win one instead of playing. No 3-peat for you. :D

By the way why does the PDGA list me as Texan :confused:

How long have you been here ?

Last time I checked you had to live in Texas for at least 15 years before you could apply for Texan naturalization, and that process takes at least 5 more years.

Dont fight the feeling Chris!!!! :D

I am sure it is where your PDGA stuff gets mailed is where they say you are from.

How many Pro women are coming?????? Come on ladies, dont be skeered. :D(this is only to get them to come)

For some reason my PM does not work unless you reply to one of my messages. I'm trying to get a new account. Until then, if you need to reach me... bschmidt@txwd.uscourts.gov

LOSO Flyer Available, or you can sign up on www.titledisc.com (http://www.titledisc.com.)

http://home.grandecom.net/~bschmidt/2005LOSO.pdf

Just signed up via TITLEDISC can't wait!!! Always have a great time in Live OAK....

Thanks Robbie, and Billy Nelson just emailed and will play pro master. Guess that knee is getting better!

My PM doesn't work, email me!

Your time has come little Joe T. I will be there remember. Time to win one instead of playing. No 3-peat for you. :D

By the way why does the PDGA list me as Texan :confused:



That's because they must know you represent Liiive OOak!! :cool:The BEST team in Texas!! :eek:

I have changed user names, bschmidt is history... Brian

bschmidt is history



Hmmmm, always changing his name??? Are you on the run or something? Are you one of these people that has a respectable day job, but robs banks in the evening? If so, give some of the loot to Pete, he needs it. :D

shhhhhh! I'm really dick cheney hiding in a undisclosed location!

I have changed user names, bschmidt is history... Brian



Adios, mofo! :D

Really, good riddance to the bum. ;)

Brian, on my cheesy resolution screen, it looks like you are touting the "Live Oak 2005 Bummer Open" :D

Open the good eye. I see "Summer."

You got a problem with bums? All bums are welcome in Live Oak with the correct entry fee :D

Hey everybody just a reminder on Hotel information:

There are other hotels in the area, but they are much higher due to summertime rates.

Motel 6 also off of IH-35 that cost is
$58.99 plus the 16.75 % tax rate = $68.87 for Friday & Saturday night. If you decide to stay on Sunday too the rate is lowered to $39.99 + 16.75% tax rate = $46.69 for Sunday only.

If you are interested in Motel 6 the address is 9503 IH-35 N. Distance from motel to course is about 10 mins max. Plus there is a little bonus! Motel 6 is right in between Adult Video and Adult Video Megaplex

Back to details, when reserving please ask for Linda Wright @ 210-654-4425 and make sure you let her know that you are calling for the LOSO Disc Golf Tournament rate. You must reserve by July 8th or rate will no longer be available, also you must reserve with a credit card to hold the room, but do not have to pay with it. There is no continental breakfast or anything like that.


Let me know if anybody has any questions. :cool:

Hows the video store?

:o

:D

Hows the video store?

:o

:D




Adult Video Megaplex is actually a very nice store, they got some great stuff!! :D

Registration is up to 15 with less than a month to go.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4949

**** that mail man is quick.

Don't worry about me Joe. It's time to claim my first victory of the year. (Dang, year's half over already :confused:)

The odds just aren't in your favor for the threepeat.

I'm in :cool:signed up on titledisc. :)

Gary:
One more USDGC question. If you are one of the top 5 Open scores at LOSO, can you wait and then pay your $20 after the results are in to make sure you qualify to be part of the drawing?

Thanks Jerry, I'm glad you can come and defend your title! See you soon!

Just talked to LOPAR. We will have free passes to the Live Oak swimming pool next to the course for players and their families. Bring your spouses and kids and let them relax in the cool waters of Live Oak!

I have to play this tournament, the TD has been working his arse off, got to go. Who's running the TX10 event at Lewisville?

Just pay already. You're a top 5 finisher. If you don't believe me, maybe AK can explain it to you. But remember, hokie religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side.