I'm not going to go too much into detail here (I'll save that for the folks at Innova and Zonedriven)but I'm too excitied to not say anything.

I've talked to the guys at Innova and have gotten the inside scoop on this years CE ROCS.

They have something extra special planned. And after doing some calculations, this years purse at the USDGC could be huge. Innova, Zonedriven and the USDGC are once again raising the bar. Congratulations and thank you.

We've already placed our 1st of many orders including a few of the super special collectible versions.

Get ahold of Zonedriven now to make sure you don't miss out. Release date around Feburary 1st and these are gonna go quick.

:D:D

im excited too...this years "special" ce rocs will bring a new light to the game. and bring a new lightness to your wallet...

but you know im getting some

where can i get my first ce rock...

im excited too...this years "special" ce rocs will bring a new light to the game. and bring a new lightness to your wallet...

but you know im getting some



Cool, CE Glow Rocs

esalazar, you can get them at Zonedriven. com

I heard a rumor that they were going to come out with CE glo Roc's a few months ago. That would be nice. I love the DX glo roc...I hope these can stack up! But I don't think that will be a problem.

I think that is what rasboomer was hinting at :)

What??? What are you trying to say???!!! LOL :D I love the new CFR glo discs. I like them better than Innova's regular Champion plastic. There's something about them. They feel closer to the old CE plastic. I can only imagine a roc in this plastic would be simply amazing. Can't wait!

Anyone know anymore about the Roc's yet? Sorry, I'm nosey. It's been a well kept secret...besides the glow thing.

Yeah, I'm wondering what mold is it going to be this time?

i called today, they arent going to be ready for the public til next week. they have the discs but looks like they are taking care of their favorites first. :( someone can correct me about that if im wrong....

I talked to Neil at Innova. They are waiting for the CE Glo Rocs for the USDGC before they release all of them. That is what is holding up things.

Toad, is that so their "favorites" can pop them on e-bay? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Does anybody know what these things are going to cost?

2004 ce roc? www.ebay.com (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3658704070&category=20851)

My guess is that it's a 2003 (because it is clear and I heard the 2004's were glow).

The 2004 are a mix of clear ($25.00) and glow ($40.00).
I believe either 3500 or 4500 were produced.

Can't wait!


Erick

Innova has explained that they would be 500 of 4 to 5 stamps @ $25 each. The CE GLo Rocs would have special unique stamping and would go for $40 each.

Anyone know how innova sold them last year>?

Do you get choice of colors, weights? I know that there is no limit to how many you can order.

40 bones!?!?

****......

there was a limit of 10 last year

Ok... 10 sounds good. Anyone getting all Glows?

Is it glaringly apparent that I dont feel like working today?

I'll take 10 of the glows. Waiting word on when I can place order.

I'm buying 20 of each. They will go for big bucks next year. Even bigger the year after unless they are duds and then I'll sell them on ebay for a buck or 2.

****. $40 is a bit high for glows. They better have some pretty unique stamps. Not that I won't buy a few. :D

Candy Glow Rocs?? Very cool!

I wonder how many they will run? Any ideas golfers? 1500 possibly, or more!

Candy Glo sounds good but I don't play a lot at night. I suppose it might be worth it for the collectability. I'll probably go for the standard CE's myself.

I still have a few of the 2003 left. The first one I broke out is still like new!

Hey Hysell, if there's a limit of 10, how ya gonna get 20? ;)

2500 of the regular stamps of which there will be 4 to 5 stamps.
1000 of the limited glow versions. I know what the stamp is and it is unlike any stamp ever seen before. Congrats of that. Glow versions "MAY" also come with some extras that will add to the collectibility.

You can order more than 10 if you're a vendor and no they aren't letting their "favorites" get to them first.

The one little item alot of people will overlook is the run #'s, the prices and what that may mean to the total purse for the 2004 USDGC. You do the math. :D

At least that's what I may have heard. ;)

Thx Rick... I e-mailed zone-driven.. SO I'm hoping they will contact me soon ;).... Thx again NC.

O,IC... Thanks Rick. So the masses may order up to 10 like last year? You've got me curious, I might have to go for a glow anyway. rWc :cool:

You should definitley pick up a glow or two. They CE glow plastic is very good. Even if you don't use it at night you will like the way it flies.

Can't wait for them!

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I second that! There should be a link to the wait list from the Zonedriven site. I didn't find out about the list until too late, I think.

does anyone have any new info on the 2004 ce rocks . date available,price,etc..

I heard sometime this week they would be available. We'll just have to wait a bit longer! I wish I would have gotten a USDGC package so I would have had first dibs. Oh well.

come on! everyone knows CE Rocs havn't been made since 02.

I thought they haven't been made since 01.

no it was '00

Oh for pete's sake.... :p

ok, you want new info?

I can give you what you want.

Currently....

they are being stamped.

What do the stamps look like?

well, there's the Stars stamp.
http://www.innovadiscs.com/images/04discs/04starslo.jpg click for large version (http://www.innovadiscs.com/images/04discs/04starshi.jpg)

There's the Claws stamp:
http://www.innovadiscs.com/images/04discs/04clawslo.jpg click for large version (http://www.innovadiscs.com/images/04discs/04clawshi.jpg)

There's the Hole 5 stamp:
http://www.innovadiscs.com/images/04discs/04hole5lo.jpg click for large version (http://www.innovadiscs.com/images/04discs/04hole5hi.jpg)

There's the Ring o' Rocs stamp:
http://www.innovadiscs.com/images/04discs/04ringlo.jpg click for large version (http://www.innovadiscs.com/images/04discs/04ringhi.jpg)

and last but not least, the One Heroic Battle stamp:
http://www.innovadiscs.com/images/04discs/04glowlo.jpg click for large version (http://www.innovadiscs.com/images/04discs/04glowhi.jpg)

When?
We will begin to call those on the call list this week. Perhaps as soon as tomorrow.

For more information, click here. (http://www.innovadiscs.com/events/popups/2004usdgcroc.htm)

There are around 1870 of the $25 rocs as is, but that number could go down after the stamping process is finished.

There are 1550 Glow Champion Rocs waiting to be stamped.

Matt Peckham

Cool! Can't wait to get mine! I am one of the lucky USDGC Partner Sponsors. Also they have pearl white 04 CE ROCS. I will be getting around 20 or so. Cool Stamps!

I am hoping for some light weights this year... You know this years weight range, Matt?

Im ready

The lightest I have seen is 165 or so. All the Glow Rocs are 170-180.

Does Zonedriven take paypal?

Not at this point. I have only seen credit card or money order/cashiers check.

I cant wait to get the call!!!!!! Those stamps look sweet!!!!!

<font color="red">For us general public types, is the limit 10 like last year? If so, I assume that would be a mix of glows and regular CEs up to 10? I hope they don't all end in the hands of dealers. rWc </font> :cool:

Are the Glow discs stamped the same as the CE? It looked as if the Kenny/Barry battle disc was a glow. Is that right?

Thanks

Walt

I just figured out the answer to my own question. sorry Matt.

Walt, did you turn out the lights to see if it glowed? :D

(really, I thought that was a glow, but the post doesn't say it is)

See...I told you so. :D

Ring ring? hello? E_mail or something?
Being Patient......... its hard! I can do it! :cool:

bring on the rocks

those look SWEET, and it looks like i dont have to sell my right nut to afford one this year. will they have any for sale at the memorial??

Any idea when these will be available through their website?

they are only for sale through Zone Driven. you'll need to call 800-476-3968 or check the site for when the shopping cart gets turned on. Not sure when that is...

I knew they were only available through zonedriven. I was just wondering if anyone knew when they would be available through their (zonedriven's) website.

thanks though :)

I would say within 7 days I would think.

Xterramat, when you say that their are 1870 of the 25$ dollar Rocs is that for each of the four stamps or is it a total number of the four stamps combined?

that is all 4 stamps. this year the stamps are split, 25% 25% 25% 25%. So there will not be a shortage of a certain stamp making it "rarer"

All of the Glow discs were stamped with the Barry vs Ken stamp.

Matt

that is all 4 stamps. this year the stamps are split, 25% 25% 25% 25%. So there will not be a shortage of a certain stamp making it "rarer"



1870 discs * 25% = 467.5 discs/stamp

I want the ones with half-stamps. :p :D :cool:/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

how much for the half stamp
scene there will only be one of those,i think it will be the rarest
:D:D:D

I think there would be four half discs not half stamps.

whatever bro!!!!! i've learn my lesson w/you :D:D:Dyou win :cool:

Within 48 hours!!!

So like, Saturday? rWc :cool:

I think there would be four half discs not half stamps.



Actually, it'd be either two discs, each with two half-stamps, or two discs, each with 4 quarter-stamps. /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :D:p :D ;) :) :cool: /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

You mean four half discs would equal two discs? (sarcastic voice face)

i'am just goona stand over here in the corner on this one :cool:

<font color="red"> COME TO PAPA, BABY!!!! </font>

Just finished ordering mine at ZoneDriven! YEAH, BABY!!!! :) :) :)

Had a hard time staying within my budget. :D

I ordered mine to but its not giving me a confirmation screen. :mad:

to heck with the 4 stamps, what about that 5th one? those are gonna be the hotties, even at $40 a pop. :)

My guess is they could've stamped anything on 'em and they'd still be hotties 'cuz they're glow candy.

Congrats. If got awfully quiet around here at 5:00(eastern standard time of course) :D

Well Mark, how many did you order ?

i dunno about that. the heroic battle concept, with shadow images of barry and ken with autographed repros of their scorecards in a sealed package is pretty darn tough to beat.

i sure am glad all you guys like these things. it helps me pay for my color stamped z-wasp fetish! :)

I had the same **** problem EddieOG. I finally just said F it and instead of paying with credit decided to send a money order. This got me to the page that said my order was processed.

I didn't have any problems paying with credit card.

I had the same **** problem EddieOG. I finally just said F it and instead of paying with credit decided to send a money order. This got me to the page that said my order was processed.


I used a different card and it went through. I dunno what the deal was but my rocs are on their way! :D

i hear that they are selling like hotcakes. Any stats?? Rodney?? :D

Something tells me they are going to be gone by the weekend. What was that count again? Times $25 and $40....

Pro players should yell out a big "Thanks Innova!" for this huge cash infusion to the USDGC!!! :)

The only way I could get it to go through was by mailing a check. And it still made me put my card in. Oh well, the check is on it's way.

Something tells me they are going to be gone by the weekend. What was that count again? Times $25 and $40....



So, how soon before the first one hits e-bay, and any guesses as to which stamp it'll be?

Anyone know what the weights are on the glow rocs? I didn't notice a pulldown menu for weight selection. Anyone know the range? Thanks, rWc :cool:

pretty nuts. They went "live" at 5:15 EST, and we had sold over 500 in 20 minutes. when I left at 6:45, they had sold 1260... in 90 minutes!!!

The Glow rocs are from 170-180.

I believe the ring of rocs will sell out first.

Pearl white is only available below 178. THERE ARE NO MAX WEIGHT PEARL.

no max weight purple either.

pretty amazing handling calls and seeing these things fly. people who wanted 1 ordered 4, people who wanted 4 ordered 10, etc.

Did they limit on how may a person can buy?

Thanks xterra. 170-180 is fine with me. What's the difference between, say, purple and clear purple. Obviously the clear's would be similar to the 2003, but is the "purple" an opaque plastic? Doesn't matter either way, really, just glad I got off work in time to order!

Also, I had no trouble with the card at about 7 p.m. It was slow at times, but went through and gave me a confirmation.

Innova rocks (rocs) :cool:rWc

yeeaahh got mine !!!! no problem at all .. was the limit 10 thanx zonedriven and innova..

pretty nuts. They went "live" at 5:15 EST, and we had sold over 500 in 20 minutes. when I left at 6:45, they had sold 1260... in 90 minutes!!!




Forget the weekend: at that rate, they'll be gone by tomorrow!

Quick question for you Charlotte guys: how do they fly compared to the 2001s and 2003s?

Has anyone noticed that zonedriven's website is not really "secure"? The certificate they have seems to have been issued to themself.

The certificate was issued to Plesk from Plesk.

It should be something like issued to zonedriven from Thawte (http://www.thawte.com/)

It is possible for anyone to issue a secure certificate to themselves.

It is possible that Plesk is an approved Internet Certificate Authority but I could not find anything on them with a google search to verify their identity.

The certificate status states the following:

This CA Root certificate is not trusted because it is not in the Trusted Root Certification Authorities store.


Could someone from Zonedriven fill us in on the validity of Plesk and the secure certificate?

i dont know about all that...but i do know mine will be here within 3-5 working days!!!! :D

It's a secure sight! Zonedriven.. Is all about supporting the sport and I saw the secure lock on my screen, they same lock as paypal.... Can't wait for my rocs... I also have the rocs to order from THem> :D

Seriously, though.

How many people here are planning on buying the limit, then ebayin' em around june-july to double the money?

while they definately double in value?

just curious.

The guy from Innova told me the limit was 50!

It's a secure sight! Zonedriven.. Is all about supporting the sport and I saw the secure lock on my screen, they same lock as paypal.... Can't wait for my rocs... I also have the rocs to order from THem> :D



Here is the difference between paypal and Zonedriven.
http://www.webassign.net/userimages/[email protected]/paypal.gif

http://www.webassign.net/userimages/[email protected]/zonedriven.gif

One of these is trusted one is not. This means that someone could acquire your credit card info as you transmit it.

We'll Mike... Im not a computer wizard.. But I hope my transactions fine, and I'm pretty sure it is.. I have ins.on my card incase of fraudulent use, so I really have no worry's... Appreciate the info.. though, assuming it's correct.

Stupid Roc's, I just spent $140 on them :(

I spent $115 and I may have squelched my tourney playing for a couple months. :(

We'll Mike... Im not a computer wizard.. But I hope my transactions fine, and I'm pretty sure it is.. I have ins.on my card incase of fraudulent use, so I really have no worry's... Appreciate the info.. though, assuming it's correct.



To check the certificate for a site just click on the lock icon you see in the status bar of your browser. It will pop up with the certificate info.

The basic idea behind the secure certificate is the following. (Secure certificates should be 128 bit not 40 bit)

Each number on your credit card is translated into 128 bits or ones and zeros. So for your credit card there are 16 numbers.
The number that is transmitted is actually 2048 digits long. There is only a decryption method with the merchant so they can process your file.

I do not claim to be a computer expert and I have glossed over how the security works but this is the basic idea.

So what everyone is saying is that Zonedriven's website is NOT secure.

Just more info I just copied that should explain more about the encryption methods.


Question:
What is the difference between 128-bit and 40-bit encryption?

Answer:

The main difference is that 128-bit encryption provides a significantly greater amount of cryptographic protection than 40-bit encryption. With the increasing computing power of potential criminals, it is becoming more necessary to employ larger keys, as evidenced by a recent study by several leading cryptographers.

In terms of what the numbers represent, "128" and "40" bit encryption refer to the size of the key used to encrypt the message. Roughly speaking, 128-bit encryption is 309,485,009,821,345,068,724,781,056 times stronger than 40-bit encryption. Presently, 40-bit encryption is not considered "strong" security in the cryptographic community. However, even taking into account Moore's Law, which states that computing power doubles about every 18 months, 128-bit encryption represents a very strong method of encryption for the forseeable future.

I think Mike is the only one saying it isn't secure... everyone else just hopes that their rocs get to them as quick as possible

So, how soon before the first one hits e-bay, and any guesses as to which stamp it'll be?


Pretty Darn Soon (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3660884190&category=20851)

YO cDALE... tHATS PRETTY SOON lol :)...

Hey Mike,
I've noticed that every time I've ordered from zonedriven. I just hope it's secure enough. I haven't had a problem in the past but it's something the website should think about upgrading.

One of these is trusted one is not. This means that someone could acquire your credit card info as you transmit it.



Mike,

Plesk is a multi-platform, web-based server administration package for *nix platforms. The default SSL certificate provided by Plesk is self-authenticating and provides a modest level of security (40 bit encryption, if I remember correctly; it's been awhile since I looked at the thing), but certainly nothing on the order that a 128-bit certificate from a trusted authority such as VeriSign, GTE CyberTrust, or Etrust would provide.

I think the thing that's confusing the security issue is that the SSL cert is issued by Plesk rather than a "trusted authority"--which, in reality, means it's issued by some independent, third party who vouches for it. (If you hit the "install certificate" button in the certificate info panel, it will install "Plesk" in the Trusted Root Authorities Store on your computer.)

(If it makes any difference to you on whether you trust it or not, when I accessed ZoneDriven, Safari (Apple's web browser for OS X 10.3) gave me a dialog box stating that the certificate could not be authenticated, but that if I chose to continue, the connection would still be secure. Nevertheless, it would behoove ZoneDriven to purchase and install a strong SSL certificate.)

The ZD Website is 128 bit secured. The certificate is Self Signed and locks down the web app just like a thawte or versign cert. The https:// portion of the URL would not work at all if the SSL (Secure Socket Layer) were not active and the lock at the bottom of the screen would show an unlocked symbol. To further be cautious with our customers info, we do not store any credit card info on the server at all. Once you enter it it gets passed off to a CC processor and dumped. Hope this helps.

BTW.. there are only 171 Champion Rocs left at ZD at the time of this posting. When they are gone they will go "Out of Stock" on the site and will no longer be able to be added to a shopping cart.

171 LEFT thats incredible :eek:... Man Am I glad I ordered early..
Thx for the info Sthac!!!

I hope I get some 180's. I ordered mine fairly early, I guess.

what time zone is this forum in? was that 171 left at 10:27 pm Central time, because I just ordered and it accepted, so hopefully I'll be as excited as a 7-yr old girl on Christmas in about 5 days.....

fore,

You are correct. However, the most recent Plesk cert is 128 bit. Thanks for explaining it well!

guess i just answered my own question by posting....

If they sell out in less than 12 hours that is gonna be sick.
1870 @ $25 = $46,750
1550 @ $40 = $62,000
=$108,750 possibly raised in less than 12 hours for the USDGC. That is so amazing!

But who's really counting /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D

I just ordered two rocs. Seems that still left to go ...

Thanks for the info sthac. We can all rest easy. And I can't believe how soon these things are going to sell out. 1 day as compared to the usual 2 weeks is incredible. Very impressive.

So how is Zonedriven going to handle not being able to fulfill customer's specific requests? i.e. I ordered a 180 pearl #5, I know NOW that these don't exist. So what is Zonedriven going to do for me? :confused:

Great question tafe.
Someone shed some light on how discs are selected to be sent if what was requested isn't available?
Or do they have some kind of "real time" inventory, where it won't let you select a Pearl Hole 5 if there are any available?

That concerns me as well, but as long as they're the weights I ordered, especially the light ones, I'll be happy.

Did anyone of you receive e-mail confirmations after ordering last night? My order appeared to go through and the site said I was successful, but I received no e-mail confirmation. The credit card I used also showed a debit later as well.

Just curious. rWc :confused:

Yes. I got a confirmation within a couple hours (not sure exactly when, I noticed it the confirmation this morning after ordering last night @ 8:00).

I'm really curious about the spec priority.
To some, weight is the most important.
To some, stamp is the most important.
Other are superstitious and want one thats ORANGE because their first ace was with an orange Roc!!!

How are they sorting all this out?

I recieved my confirmation within 1 min of buying!

Looks like they only have Glows availabe the others say out of stock :eek:. I wonder how many are left?

No confirmation yet...

You and I haven't received confirmations, but other's have? Don't know how to take that, but hopefully I get a response to the e-mail I sent them. LIke I said, the card I used was debited shortly after the order. I'll keep my fingers crossed. At least I have a couple of last year's to keep me going if it falls through. rWc :(

It also seems like my card was debited. There is about 60 dollars short and I paid for my Xtown registration and I bought 1 CE Roc

Sometimes my email is funky and I don't get all the emails....hmmm

Wow, the regular ones sold out in less than 24 hours! That's pretty impressive. I figured the glows would go quickly too since this is the first time they've made a glow candy Roc!

Seems like I didn't order mine last year until they had been on sale for a few weeks.

I hope there's no problem with my order :confused: rWc

I just checked my account on Zonedriven.

I have an order number and the status is "Processing" I am assuming that it means they are actually getting the CE Roc that I want(if it is available)

insanity. gotta love it! :)

rocophiles...its a cult.

I just thought of something.
I should have put in the "comments" box my order of preference:
1. weight
2. stamp
3. similar color
:(
I didn't type anything at all.
What did you guys put in the comments box?

I would like to extend a sincere thanks to everyone who has participated in the USDGC Roc fundraising program. We expected these discs to move quickly, but no one anticipated the standard run of colors would sell out in less than 12 hours. That is simply amazing.

As you can imagine, we have quite a task at hand to fulfill these orders. While I cannot guarantee each individual will get the exact weight, color and stamp requested, I can guarantee our staff will do everything possible to get as close as we can.

I expect it to take at least a week to process just the orders we have received overnight. Please be patient. If you have specific concerns, feel free to give us a call. Requests via e-mail are likely to take much longer as the end of the line is nowhere in sight.

As for the money raised, all proceeds, less the cost of making them available, will help fund the 2004 Championship. I have seen dollar amounts already being tallied as if that will be the amount added to the purse. This is not an accurate means of determining the added cash total. The Championship is an expensive show. Monies will be allotted to the purse as well as the general fund. We are several weeks away from knowing those amounts.

I can assure everyone that the Championship is in excellent position to far exceed everything we have accomplished thus far. Staff meetings are already being held. Everything will be just a bit bigger, better, and a lot more fun.

I can only make that statement due to your support. I urge you to keep this mind as you eagerly await your order. The Championship was created for you. It is truly an event by players, for players. We are all watching the dream unfold one step at a time. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this important part of our history.

I got a confirmation within minutes, I ordered around 2:30 Pacific Time. I must have went into a Zone, I ordered more than I had in mind when I entered the site. Now that they sold out so fast I'll be happy to get all of them. Can't wait!

And, while I am very pleased at the huge outpouring of support for the USDGC, could someone please explain to me again exactly how a waiting list was supposed to be helpful.

I called ZD this morning and they said that if the order is still processing, then they haven't run your credit card info yet.

They also told me that they were going to try and fill orders by weight preference first if the exact color and weight was unavailable.

Crossing my fingers (in a stacked grip, of course) :p

I received a call from them letting me know that the sale had begun. That's all I needed.

1 day as compared to the usual 2 weeks is incredible. Very impressive.



! day sell-out is quite impressive, but 2 weeks is not the "usual". There were 2001 Rocs available as late as November of 2001. I know because people were on the discussion board complaining about the limited availability while they could still buy them! :) 2002 they were still available around June, I think. And last year was two weeks, I believe.

I guess in 2005 they should take pre-orders and sell-out 2 months before they go on sale! :D

And you can bet your butt that had I recieved a call or e-mail that is all I would have needed.

:( :confused: :(

Hit <RETURN> on my order at 5:20 pm (EST) yesterday; confirmation e-mail time stamp, 5:21:58 pm (EST). :D

Now I wish I would have ordered more. :(

BTW, if there are any mis-stamps or x-outs, I'll be more than happy to pay full retail for them.

marka
how many did you snatch up to sell on ebay? :cool:

I guess in 2005 they should take pre-orders and sell-out 2 months before they go on sale! :D



Bet they'll sell a boatload of USDGC Partner Packages this year.

I received a call from them letting me know that the sale had begun. That's all I needed.



I got the call from the USDGC 4:47, saying they were going live at ZD at 5:00. I immediately schlepped over to the ZD pro shop and hit the "refresh" button about every 30 sec. until they went came up. :)

ZoneDriven is now sold out of the 2004 USDGC Rocs. Only Climo/Schultz Gloe CE Rocs Left.

iam sure some will be popping up in calif. for sell soon
1) la marada pro shop
2) discovering the world
3) final nine norcal
4) santa cruz discgolf shop norcal

did anyone see these discs are already offered on ebay? :(
id like to know how many more Innova Bashers there will be after this.......

The roc orders are being filled according to the time they were placed, right? Earliest orders should get first choice.

I guess in 2005 they should take pre-orders and sell-out 2 months before they go on sale! :D



Next year they should make a lot more discs and sell them exactly the same way.

BUT:

They shouldn't tell people how many they made.

That way, there'd be the same rush to buy, but with more discs, more people would get what they want, and the project would raise more money.

I'm guessing some people came up empty-handed?

Of course, they could just lie about the number they made, telling people they ran 2500 when they actually produced 5000. The truth would get out sooner or later though, and would be a stain on the reputation of everyone involved.

marka
how many did you snatch up to sell on ebay? :cool:



top secret. i could tell ya, but then i'd have to kill ya. :cool:

Straight from Innova & Zonedriven:

The USDGC Partner Players/Family Package Sponsors have first right to purchase the CE Rocs and will be the first orders that will be shipped out within 24 to 48 hours. The online orders that were place by non-sponsors will be shipped out within 72 and 96 hours. That is what I was told.

man, i wish i had been playing disc golf in 2001! Still don't have one of those yet. I didn't realize that it was only last year they sold out in 2 weeks. They won't see June/Nov sell out dates ever again....unless they make a couple hundred thousand...but who wants that? :p

Bet they'll sell a boatload of USDGC Partner Packages this year.



I bought the partner package this year and never received a first chance to buy a Roc like the description said. :confused: Luckily, I was checking zonedriven for updates often.

I have to thank Zonedriven for making the call to my home about 35 minutes before the sale went live. Too bad I didn't have the sense to have them call me at work!

Now I have to get my orders straightened out
rwc /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

sounds like insider trading to me :eek:

Luckily, I got called at home and work. I had 2 partner packages last year.....

I guess they had both numbers on the list. If I hadn't been called on my cell phone, I might not have had a chance to place my order in time.

Lucky for you...

And lucky for me ;) Thanks for the use of your second VIP pass at the USDGC!

Celly number was on my partner package as well - WooHoo! :D

Oh, I just can't wait - they are on their way to my open arms right now!!!!!

- giddy girlie :Dgrinning :D

Wow - sold out already. That's no surprise to me. Already on ebay even. I think that's pretty confident to have them for sale on ebay before they have even been shipped to the seller. Hope there are no glitches along the way.

I know whatcha mean, Girlie. I will feel much better when I'm actually holding one (or two) in my hands. Apparently ZD was overwhelmed last night shortly after the word got out. I wasn't the only one not to receive an e-mail confirmation after my orders went through. The person I talked to today was very helpful and comforting :D And Rhett, don't encourage them to raise the price! ;) rWc :cool:

Wow, I wonder why the glows aren't sold out?
I wonder how many are left?
If it is price you are worrid about, you better go ahead and get a glow, because a regular one is already up to $46 on ebay. Not to mention there is over 7 days left on the auction.

The price of the glows proably has something to do with that. As I understand it from people who have thrown them they (the glow Rocs) are the superiour flying disc. They will only grow in value once people start using them.

And don't forget this about the Glows. They are individualy numbered ex. 5 of 1550 on a sticker on the underside. They come sealed in a plastic bag along with a commemerative card talking about the playoff from last year. On top of this the cards were all hand autographed by Barry and Ken, the only two to ever win the USDGC.

The seal on the bag is something where you cant open it and feel the disc and then just reseal it. Once you open it, it's open. This will do nothing but add to the collector value over time. If it's like any other collectible I'm guessing the ones that stay in the original sealed packaging will multiply the value.

I for one am very glad they did it like this and would love to see more collectible, limited and 1st runs come in sealed bags for the collector end of things.

Thanks again Zonedriven and Innova.

WOW! i cant wait to see mine!!!!!!

Never got a notification call, but with the volume of traffic I can easily understand why. Didn't make it in time for the clears but did manage to get my name in the pot for the glows. Thanks guys.

Everybody jumped on the regulars for the price, but, when those glows are gone. :oThe glows are gonna be where its at :DIf you haven't got one you should.

Placing an item on ebay is risky if you dont have the item yet. I see nothing wrong with selling stuff on ebay. But, I wouldn't bid on something that isn't there.

Have you seen the bidding for the 2004 CE Roc on e-bay? It's up to $51, and there's 6 days remaining! :eek: At that price, I might give up 1 of my 4 reg and 2 glow I've got coming. Maybe

I heard that someone was selling them before they came out with a guaranteed delivery date, and had problems getting them ordered.

Curious if this can this be verified, debunked ?

The seller probably received the same message i did saying that "you'll have your discs in 3-5 business days."

Little did the seller know that it may be weeks due to ZoneDriven being SLAMMED by the DG community.

On the other hand, the seller may be a Charlotte resident with first dibs. Who knows, who cares?

Just talked to Zonedriven and they said it should be shipped today or tomorrow. I'm curious, did the confirmation e-mail use the term "you WILL" or "you SHOULD"?

Comfirmation email? I never got one but my account has been debited. Does that count? I hope that means some are on the way. The evil genius voice in my head keeps telling me to buy them all up so they can't be used against me in the future.

Really? Ours were shipped to us last week. With tracking number and all by email. You probably didn't talk to the right person at ZD.

So...do these '04s resemble any of the other CEs ('01-'03) in profile? How do they fly?!?

Same here,Chris. I received no confirmation e-mail for any of my orders (couple a different accounts), but ZD assured me all online orders were received. Still, when I go to their site to check on those orders, my e-mail doesn't register in their system. My credit cards, however, show debits, so I'm hopeful everything is ok. rWc :cool:

Talk? I just ordered online. If I talked to them, I would have gotten special treatment and I didn't want to do that.

I can't believe that Chris Hysell is buying Rocs. I thought it was discraft or death.

The more I buy, the less there are to use against me. It's all part of my plan for world domination.

So are all the glow Rocs gone now, or not?

not. order away.

I ordered my 10 rocs :D(7 clear, 3 glo) and i got my confirm. email within a few minutes. Just a question what was the first day that they were on sale? i ordered mine about 5:30pm on the 12th was that the first day or when they were almost out?

i ordered mine about 5:30pm on the 12th was that the first day or when they were almost out?



Yes and yes.

Bought one glo with my credit card. Maybe I will be able to afford it in a couple months. Sure wish I could have bought more. I would have liked to have thrown one, but this one will never leave the plastic bag. I should buy some more for E-bay, but I can't afford to speculate. Although, you know they will sell for at least what you paid for them, and maybe more. Hmmm. Maybe I will buy more if there are any left? Has anyone talked about how they fly? :)

has anyone recieved theres yet???? make a post letting us know when they hit your door.

My card still hasn't been debited yet. So I'm guessing I won't see these anytime this week. And i ordered (my first batch) at 5:05! But I'm patiently (not really) waiting. :D

I received an email with confirmation from UPS that my 5 ROCS are on their way :). They are scheduled to be delivered at my door on the 19th of February :D. I had ordered mine at about 4:30 central time, about 45 minutes after Neill had left a message on my cell phone. Boy I cannot wait, I might even call in sick that day so I meet the UPS guy at the door and then head straight to the course.

Got my Rocs on Monday already. They all look sweet! Red, Blue, Light Blue/Greenish and pearl whites!

Lucky guy! How much do they resemble (or not) the 2003 Rocs. Are they clear or are some more pearlescent like the CE Spiders? I hope mine show up sometime :( rwc :cool:

I want mine! I want mine! Ooooo, maybe they will be at home waiting for me :D...

The pearl white CE Rocs look like the pearl white CE Spiders but again only in light weights. 168G to 170G from what I heard. The Blue and Red and Green ones I got also are the clear ones and resemble the 2003. I haven't thrown them yet.

pearls went as high as 177. limited numbers were available from about 168-177.

Well I asked for light weight pearl whites, but thats cool they have up to 177G

Thanks a bunch for the info. I'm sure I'll be happy with mine either way. We are talking Rocs here :) rWc

I ordered 4 CE ROC's no confirmation or debit to CC or nothing... ordered them last thursday still no word...

The same is true for me, nothing charged to my card nor a shipping notice from UPS, but according to my order history at Zonedriven it claims it's been shipped.

Check yours out. I also called to see if they've been shipped they state all orders would be shipped Monday (02/17).

Wynne

I have mine! :D:D:D:D
2 pearl white, hole #5 ( 1 blue stamp/175, 1 black/177)
1 green, ring of Rocs (blue/180)
1 purple, ring of Rocs (gold/175)
2 glow, (blue/178, red/179)

These are very sweet! Pearl white seems to be more flat than the clear. I threw the 177 white a few times today and I like it more than my '03 CE Roc.
The glow discs come in a sealed bag and are numbered, very nice for collectors. I hope to get a x-out glow, so I can throw it, because I can't see opening those bags. I also know there were very few purple disc and the gold stamp looks sweet!
Hope everyone else is as happy as I am right now, when they get their's. :D:D:D:D

just got mine tonight....ordered 2 whites....open the bag and got an orange and a yellow who cares!!!!!!! some people got none....both max weight. hope they are faster than the 03's gonna throw tommorrow....wil report back

I guess you NC guys got 'em so fast because you're close to Zonedriven. Maybe they'll get to Alabama in a couple of days. The reports are interesting so far. I'm curious to hear how they fly.

p.s. I'm not too picky about the color, but I don't want any orange or yellow! :mad:

Also, still no e-mail confirmation, no info from UPS. :(

i am not crazy about orange and yellow either.....just hope for more speed and stability than the 03.........hope you get yours soon russ

Thanks a bunch. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and watchin' for the UPS guy. They normally run before noon so I come home for lunch lookin' for a box on my porch
Enjoy those puppies :D rWc

Joy :D

Rapture :D

cant wait for my 10 rocs what was the day that they first went for sale my phone was at a friends so i dont know when they called

I too placed an order and no confirmation. also sent Zone Driven an e-mail and nothing as of yet.

They are started to show up so don't lose faith yet. I got mine yesterday. I think that they look like the 03's. I don't know if that is good or bad. I was hoping to see some 01 clones show up, oh well. At least they all weigh 180.

That's what I'm hoping for. As long as they are max weight I don't really care what color they are. They will show up eventually.

I am curios as to what the order #s are for the people that have recieved their discs. And what time they ordered. I ordered in the first 45min and my order is still processing. I know they are swamped but I don't want to get stuck with what is left because they have not processed my order. If anyone has insight please let me know.

Mine was shipped today! :D The way I understand what is going on is this...Zonedriven could either spend their time updating personal order info on the site or they could spend it shipping ALL these orders. I believe they have made the right decision, shipping.

That could explain why I received no confirmation and my original order didn't show up on the website, nor did my e-mail address. (of course, I would think that would be automated, but I'm hoping for the best) :p

I ordered just before 7 p.m. CST, just as soon as I could get home from work. I received a call at home but didn't get it. I heard about the sale from another website.

I did speak with someone at ZD on Friday and the person assured me that all the orders were received.

Like you, I'd rather they ship the orders out ASAP, but I'd like some idea if there's any Rocs in my future :D It's something to look forward to, I guess. :cool:rWc

It's funny how impatient we all are. I guess when the money finally disappears I'll know they are shipped out.

Never received order confirmation, but the discs arrived today while I was at home for lunch!!!!

I was one of the lucky ones to jump on board of the CE rocs but having missed my chance the last couple of years and having not yet received my discs i wanted to know if CE rocs are the real deal CE plastic or just the champion plastic? If its the CE stuff it would be great if innova occasionally ran runs of other popular CE stuff like valks, firebirds, or teebirds (I WISH) for special events and such. I'd buy plenty.

It is all that Proline/KC/Champion plastic. The good stuff is gone. :(

Thats why I feel phone orders are much better than website orders. I called ZD, placed my order and was confirmed. Then I received by phone and email a tracking number for the order. I received my ROCS this Monday. All is good!

Well, I received my order today ... or perhaps I should say I received AN order today. I ordered pink for my bag (they're easier for my old, dim eyes to spot from a distance) and blue for my wall, which is what it shows on the packing slip; what I received was clear red and clear yellow. :(

I suppose I should be happy to have received any at all, given how quickly they sold out; I am somewhat disappointed, though, since I placed my order at 5:20 on the 12th and received a confirmation e-mail at 5:21. Hard to imagine pink and blue would have been snapped up in the first 20 minutes (particularly pink). While I realize the number of pink and/or blue ring-o'-rocs might have been limited, I would have thought orders would have been filled in the order received (after the USDGC Partner orders, of course). :(

Anyone care to trade a pink or a blue ring-o'-rocs for a clear yellow one? :(

I keep looking out my door to see if its arrived yet. this is worse tahn christmas as a kid

Nothing arrived in my corner of Alabama today either. I really hope I get the light ones I ordered for my wife and sons. Shouldn't be too many people wanting 165g. For me, I hope I get the purple ones and no darn yellow or orange!! :mad:

(but considering I have none, yellow and orange would be OK if anyone from ZD should read this ;)) rWc :cool:

am I the only one who acually wanted Orange?

The roc has landed In Madison Hts Michigan Today. My order was just ok lots of clear yellow BOO HOO.Ordered all 180 and only got 1 and alot of 175 BOO HOO. I placed my order at 5:21. The glows look the best out of all of them. Also some black specs on some of the yellow anyone else see this? :eek:

Have you seen the auction on ebay for the complete set of 04 Rocs titled ~COMPLETE SET '04 CE ROCS~? All 4 stamps and 1 Glo for $250 starting bid and $280 Buy now? WOw! And he's asking for $7 to ship them. LOL! Haha. And to think most of us only paid $140 for 4 CE rocs and 1 CE glo roc.

My rocs arrived today and I never received an email confirmation and my zonedriven account still says the order is processing... but i'm not complaining cuz I got the exact weights I ordered. Kudos to zonedriven.

sweet, then i expect mine to arrive tomorrow, if southern MI has em.

westa:

You haven't gotten yours yet? I am in Wisconsin and got them on Monday.

Well, I received my order today ... or perhaps I should say I received AN order today. I ordered pink for my bag (they're easier for my old, dim eyes to spot from a distance) and blue for my wall, which is what it shows on the packing slip; what I received was clear red and clear yellow. :(

I suppose I should be happy to have received any at all, given how quickly they sold out; I am somewhat disappointed, though, since I placed my order at 5:20 on the 12th and received a confirmation e-mail at 5:21. Hard to imagine pink and blue would have been snapped up in the first 20 minutes (particularly pink). While I realize the number of pink and/or blue ring-o'-rocs might have been limited, I would have thought orders would have been filled in the order received (after the USDGC Partner orders, of course). :(

Anyone care to trade a pink or a blue ring-o'-rocs for a clear yellow one? :(



Out of the 10 max weight ones I ordered at 5:15, I only got one in the right weight. Some I got were even in the 160s and only 3 above 175. I dont understand :confused: I did get 5 in the right color. Does anyone want to trade a yellow or orange one for a white one?

Exact Email Timestamp:

From : Zone Driven Sports <[email protected]>
Sent : Thursday, February 12, 2004 5:22 PM

:(

You got yours???

I am in Wisconsin too, and I havent yet seen them at my doorstep. I am another who never recieved any email confirmation too.

Patiently(as much as possible) waiting.

Ya I got 2 dozen of them and a few Glo ones also. All the correct weights and colors I asked for. I even got 8 pearl white ones Doc. Start drooling you dye freak! hehe j/k.

Check out this sweet cranberry red with gold stamp 2004 CE ROC to the left under my user name. Pretty sweet color I think.

Hamm,
How the hell did you get yours so quick? You must have ordered them before Thursday...please tell me you did.

Mr. Peterson! Whats up! We had a fun time at Madison this past weekend. I didn't order before Thursday, but I do know people at ZD and they hooked me up very well.

You lucky bastard. :D I had tons of fun this weekend too. We were lucky to keep our spots after that second round. But I'll take it! Wanted to make it down for the fundraiser this weekend but doesn't look like that's going to happen. Next stop is probably tower ridge. See you there???

It's funny how impatient we all are. I guess when the money finally disappears I'll know they are shipped out.



Good Point!!!!!!!!!

While it's cool that some folks with connections can get their Rocs fast, the right colors and weights they asked for, I hope the rest of us commoners are as fortunate. No offense intended to you or to ZD, but I hate hearing how some people got exactly what they wanted while others didn't. I hope I'm not one of the latter.BTW, apparently there was not a limit this year? rWc :cool:

danm discgolf aint gotta rub it no, NO i havent gotten mine yet, but im sure (just like my MIa DGWN) itll be here tomorrow. im what they call an optimist

yeah must be nice to get exactlly what you ask for..........whats the word on how they fly?????
seems to me to be more stable than the 03's....thoughts

I will be tossing one around this weekend maybe and I will let you know how they fly compared to the 03.

mine still says processing and i ordered mine around 5:30 :(
i hope i can at least get somewhat around the weights i ordered dont care about color much just want 180's

Got exactly what I ordered, Assorted weights of all four stamps. Plus some glows.

I hear ya Russ. I see these people who placed their orders after me and have already gotten theirs. And they didn't get the weights or colors they wanted. I guess we pretty much have to realize it's a crap shoot. Limited number...tons of people ordering at the same time...and some lucky people who have connections (don't worry discgolf, won't hold that against you) If we don't get the weights we want it's off to ebay. Simple as that. At the very minimum we at least get some rocs without having to pay a higher cost. We can sell them...we can hold on to them. Whatever. It's for a good cause and we have to accept what we get. If it makes the USDGC better every year....can we really complain??? It's all about making the sport we love better every year. Man, it sounds like I've had few margaritas. :D

Anyone out there who gets light weight (165grams) ones and is unhappy with them, I would be glad to take them off your hands, I got shut out and was hoping to get only light ones.

How much does a CE Roc cost, non Ebay? I heard it was $25 or some thing. Where do you buy them? ZoneDriven?

They are long gone my friend. I believe you can still purchase the Glow champion Roc's for $40 which comes with autographed replica score cards/post cards of Barry and Ken(zonedriven.com). If you've never thrown the glow champion plastic I suggest buying one. If you ever want to take it out of it's sealed package that is.

You're right, I suppose. No matter what I get (if in fact I DO receive anything ) I can have the satisfaction of knowing that I've supported the best event in disc golf!

With me, colors and stamps are really not the issue, If I get a few from 173-177 I'll be fine. I also hope I get the three light ones as well, as light as they came, 165g I think. I wanted purple, but if they're red or blue, or even green, I'm cool! (Just NO Orange and Yellow :D) Here's to another day of waiting! Oh yeah, we wanna hear how they fly!

I wanted purple, but if they're red or blue, or even green, I'm cool! (Just NO Orange and Yellow :D)



If you get orange or yellow drop me a line and I'll trade.

Will do, my friend! rWc :cool:

You're right, I suppose. No matter what I get (if in fact I DO receive anything ) I can have the satisfaction of knowing that I've supported the best event in disc golf!



Supporting the USDGC is fine, and I'm happy to do it, but I think I have a reason to be disappointed.

I'm not a collector: I buy discs to throw. Even the discs on my wall come down eventually and get thrown or are traded for something I throw.

For me, color IS an issue. Because of my poor eyesight, I need the brightest, highest-contrast colors I can find to ensure I can pick them out against the ground, otherwise I end up wasting a lot of time trying to find my discs. Basically, that means I can't throw yellow or green discs in Spring or Summer (the high-contrast fluorescent yellow-green CEs were an exception), or orange or dark red discs in Fall or Winter. Clear discs are also a problem for me because the colors generally aren't dense enough or intense enough to stand out. Practically speaking that means my color choices are limited to saturated pink (bubble gum pink doesn't do it) or white.

I MAY be able to use the clear red Roc I received, but the clear yellow one is worthless to me except as trade bait. That's why I'm disappointed.

Anyone want to trade an opaque pink or opaque blue 2004 for a clear yellow one? :(

I know there are some people who are still waiting. But lets face it folks w/the holiday this past Monday it has only been 4 business days.
But, then again that is easy for me to say, because I already got mine. :cool:

my 6 were waiting for me when i got home yesterday (I live on Long Island, NY). ups is usually really fast from the south, but from the west (California) ups sucks.

I ordered all max weight:
2 Glo
2 Claw Stamp (one red, one blue)
1 Ring of Rocs (Yellow)
1 Hole 5 (pearl white)

What i got was:
2 Glo (178, 180)
2 Claw (177 Red, 180 Yellow)
1 Ring of Rocs (180 Orange)
1 Hole 5 (177 Green)

Overall i'm pretty happy, although i didnt like the red claw and green hole 5... so i put them on ebay last night and both sold within hours :D!

Now i wish i ordered more because i don't think i'm going to open the Glow Rocs, they are SWEET with Barry and Ken's signature included on the card insert.

I missed out on the big day and have said in an earlier post that I got a glo roc a few days later. I just bought a max weight ring of rocs in White for 32 clams on, you guessed it, E-bay. Not bad for snoozing on the big day. Does anyone know what max weight in white is? This guy says 180 but I thought someone said max on white was 177. Either way I am happy. :)

Ya the glos do rock! I have 100 and 101 of 1550.