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widiscgolf
Feb 19 2004, 11:35 AM
Have you seen the auction on ebay for the complete set of 04 Rocs titled ~COMPLETE SET '04 CE ROCS~? All 4 stamps and 1 Glo for $250 starting bid and $280 Buy now? WOw! And he's asking for $7 to ship them. LOL! Haha. And to think most of us only paid $140 for 4 CE rocs and 1 CE glo roc.



I didn't see if this guys auction sold yet. But they are already rare since they are sold out. I don't know, what you guys think?

tafe
Feb 19 2004, 11:56 AM
Just wondering, did you put in the comments section on your order the fact that color was most important?

twoputtok
Feb 19 2004, 12:03 PM
My Rocs arrived, I'm just like a kid at Christmas!

Yippeee. :D

Karma Police
Feb 19 2004, 12:34 PM
My first order has been shipped!!!

boru
Feb 19 2004, 02:39 PM
For me, color IS an issue. Because of my poor eyesight, I need the brightest, highest-contrast colors I can find to ensure I can pick them out against the ground, otherwise I end up wasting a lot of time trying to find my discs. Basically, that means I can't throw yellow or green discs in Spring or Summer (the high-contrast fluorescent yellow-green CEs were an exception), or orange or dark red discs in Fall or Winter. Clear discs are also a problem for me because the colors generally aren't dense enough or intense enough to stand out. Practically speaking that means my color choices are limited to saturated pink (bubble gum pink doesn't do it) or white.

I MAY be able to use the clear red Roc I received, but the clear yellow one is worthless to me except as trade bait. That's why I'm disappointed.

Anyone want to trade an opaque pink or opaque blue 2004 for a clear yellow one? :(



fore - I play mostly at night, so I know where you're coming from about color. My Rocs haven't come yet (supposedly on their way). Normally, I'd be happy to trade if I got your colors, but since I live in Hawaii, the logistics would be difficult.

If all you care about it visibility, and aesthetics are unimportant, I'd suggest dyeing that yellow disc to a better color. Basic dyeing is pretty easy - the tricky part is getting a nice pattern. I don't know how you'd be able to make saturated pink, but it might be possible. You can definitely achieve opaque black on a Champion disc. Anyway, it might be worth a try if you can't find anyone to trade. PM me if you need instructions.

Good luck finding the colors you want!

Feb 19 2004, 02:41 PM
Just got mines today, I don't remember the color nor weights requested but all of mines are 177, Green with silver claw stamp, yellow with red ring of rocs stamp, and a blue with silver hole number 5 stamp. I got a blue with a silver stamp last year (2003 CE Rocs) and didn't like it, and now I've got a new one with the exact same color, blahh. But I'm happy I at least have 3 in my hands. I also ordered a GLOW Roc cuz of this thread, felt I needed to add that collectible to my collection.

Wynne

Karma Police
Feb 19 2004, 02:59 PM
Rest easy kids...the rocs are on their way. Got mine today.

tdwriter
Feb 19 2004, 03:22 PM
Glad to hear that candyred :) I'm glad they're showing up somewhere, 'cause they ain't showed up here in Alabama! :confused: No emails from ZD, UPS. Nothing but debits from two credit card accounts and nuthin' else!

The way this is going, if I get anything, It'll be a buncha max weight orange and yellows! :D(and yeah, if that's the case, I'll trade them to the guys who like max weight orange and yellows!)

Right now, I'm gettin' the <font color="blue"> "No CE Roc Blues." </font> rWc :(

gang4010
Feb 19 2004, 03:27 PM
Just got mine yesterday and need to offer them for trade. Looking for CE'04 between 170-172.

I've got two of each stamp (including the glo) one @174, and one near max weight. Anybody got my weight - please let me know.

Craiger#4010

tdwriter
Feb 19 2004, 03:36 PM
Don't know if I ordered any that weight. Most of mine were 174-177.That is, if I receive anything at all.Will let you know if anything arrives in your range. Still hoping something will arrive! :(rwc

dm4
Feb 19 2004, 04:18 PM
Does anyone know what max weight in white is? I was thinking 180 but I thought someone said max on white was 177.

I am sure someone has mentioned this before but I missed it and would like to know without reading all these pages. :confused:

Thanks!

Feb 19 2004, 04:35 PM
180 4 sure

dannyreeves
Feb 19 2004, 04:37 PM
180 is max

pearl only went up to 177. that is what you are thinking of

Plankeye
Feb 19 2004, 04:43 PM
I just got my Roc

I ordered a 175 green with Hole 5 stamp

I got a 177 blue with hole 5 stamp

I am not complaining

Feb 19 2004, 05:23 PM
Just got my Rocs in today. I am in Clarksville, TN. Ordered 12 at 180g and got 1. I also ordered 2 glows and got 1 at 180g. These are the Rocs I got if anybody wants to trade i want max weight.
1. Clear Blue/Hole #5/172g
2. Clear Blue/USDGC-6/179g
3. Clear Orange/Hole #5/179g
4. Clear Orange/Ring of Rocs/174g
5. Yellow/Ring of Rocs/171g
6. Clear Green/USDGC-6/179g
7. Clear Green/Hole #5/172g
8. Pearl/Hole # 5/172g
9. Pearl/Claw/170g
10. Pearl/Ring of Rocs/170g
11. Clear Red/Claw/176g
12. Clear Red/Claw/180g
13. Glo/175g
14. Glo/180g
Also none of the weights and stamps matched up that I ordered so dont be disappointed out there if you are looking for a match. Unless you got the inside connection like some folks.

Feb 19 2004, 05:52 PM
wheres mine??????

Feb 19 2004, 05:55 PM
Call ZD get a ups tracking # and track that beeachhhhhhhh!!

dannyreeves
Feb 19 2004, 05:57 PM
I can understand you wanting to trade off your 170's and 172's but 179 is just as good as max. I'll be happy with anything 177+.

dm4
Feb 19 2004, 05:57 PM
Thanks playin disc and kid roc!!!!! :)

dm4
Feb 19 2004, 06:01 PM
I can understand you wanting to trade off your 170's and 172's but 179 is just as good as max. I'll be happy with anything 177+.



A friend of mine won a 179 dx roc at an Ice Bowl this year. He asked to trade for a 180 in the box and the td made a big deal out of it being close enough. He could not believe my friend would even ask. I beg to differ. Often times disc that are targeted to end up max (180) end up heavier! You can feel the extra stability and meat in drivers (175) and mid's alike. Go for the max weight, there is a difference!

dannyreeves
Feb 19 2004, 06:03 PM
I can understand you wanting to trade off your 170's and 172's but 179 is just as good as max. I'll be happy with anything 177+.



A friend of mine won a 179 dx roc at an Ice Bowl this year. He asked to trade for a 180 in the box and the td made a big deal out of it being close enough. He could not believe my friend would even ask. I beg to differ. Often times disc that are targeted to end up max (180) end up heavier! You can feel the extra stability and meat in drivers and mid's alike. Go for the max weight, there is a difference!



Well, even though I don't 100% agree, I understand what you are saying. You should get a gram scale and take it with you to the disc store. :D:D:D

Feb 19 2004, 06:22 PM
yes the 179's are fine but if somebody wants those mid to lower 170's i will trade for 178 or higher.

Feb 19 2004, 06:30 PM
Those people selling those CE Rocs on ebay are going to be disappointed when they dont get there 180 or 179 and have to explain to the winning bidder that they dont have those weights. If that happens they can end up getting in trouble for false item description.

Paul Taylor
Feb 19 2004, 07:27 PM
I GOT MINE. :D They were here when I got home. I asked for the colors I wanted and for the weight to be as close to 175 as possible on the regular CE. I asked for the heaviest possible on the Glow CE and got a 178.

Here is what I got

Red Ring of ROC's - 176
Blue Hole #5 - 176
Yellow Hole #5 - 176
Purple Ring of ROC's - 175
and the GLOW 178.

I only wish they would not have put the weight in the middle of the plate.

ps..I do not have connections at ZD. I just asked for it to be close and they did it.

nbond
Feb 19 2004, 07:31 PM
It seems that the people that ordered a lot of Rocs got the shaft. I only ordered two (glow and reg) and got them both at 180. Maybe I am just lucky.

Feb 19 2004, 07:37 PM
it finally said that mine was shipped i hope they are somewhat close to 180 i dont care about stamp or color just weight

Karma Police
Feb 19 2004, 07:41 PM
I don't know what "a lot" is but I ordered 6 and asked for max weight on all of them. Got 4 180's and 2 179's. I was VERY happy. Won't have to sell/trade any of those.
:D

tdwriter
Feb 19 2004, 08:31 PM
Another day and nothing in Alabama :( :confused: :p I was really hoping to be tossing one this weekend, since it's going to be partly cloudy and in the low 50s. I'll play either way, but it would have been nice to be tossing a new Roc :) I'll hope for the best tomorrow. :cool:rWc

xterramatt
Feb 19 2004, 08:55 PM
Max weight is considered 178-180.

brookep
Feb 19 2004, 09:16 PM
Recieved my rocs today.
Ordered180 red ring of rocs, max weight perl usdgc stars, 180 glo

Recieved 179 clear orange, 175 clear red, 180 glo

stamps were correct

A little disapointed but happy to have them

I took the 179 out after work STABLE I know it is still cold but this disc is a pig couldn't flip it over so maby I got lucky with the 175 hopefully it will have more glide. The glo is sweet looks and seems to feel (still in plastic) like the 2001's I would trade the 179 clear orange for any 177 and higher solid red, stamp not important if anyone is interested.

Feb 19 2004, 09:28 PM
I haven't gotten mine yet.
My order's status is "shipped"
Do they update your order on the ZD site with the discs they actually send, or does it alway stay with what you selected at time of order?
And how's come everyone seems to be disappointed with clear-orange or yellow?

brookep
Feb 19 2004, 09:41 PM
My order still says processing so don't rely on the site they are swamped and as others have said they are more interested in getting them out than updating your account.

As far as the Clear orange being a bust I am not sure about others just that mine has little glide. The last time I purchased CE Rocs was AM worlds in Nashville. So I am incredibly spoiled I remembe being in the room next to the flymart in nashville rooting through the 100 disc case boxes holding entire stacks of perfect 180's what a great memory if I had only known . Needless to say these are not on the same page as the 2001's except for the glo but that will never come out of the bag.

Feb 19 2004, 09:52 PM
Just received my bad ***** rocs today. I like that the glowies are in a sealed bag. If you missed out to bad 4 you, maybe next year. :cool:

hvnafit
Feb 19 2004, 09:59 PM
YEEEEEEEE!!!! HAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Checked my order status and it now says shipped!
Please, Please get here soon!

Feb 19 2004, 10:15 PM
That is why I bought 7 glows. 2 will be used the rest kept sealed. I threw one this afternoon and it flys like my 2001 CE roc.

Karma Police
Feb 19 2004, 10:21 PM
Exactly!!! So so happy! :D

tdwriter
Feb 19 2004, 10:47 PM
<font color="blue"> Well this is an interesting development :mad:
I checked the two credit card accounts I used to purchase some CE Rocs (that had shown debits for the order amounts) and they no longer reflect the debits!

I can't figure this out, but I sent ZD an e-mail (a nice one) asking what was going on. I've been suspecting a problem since I received no e-mail confirmations and my e-mail never showed up when I tried to check the accounts I set up the night I placed my orders. A ZD Rep assured me that all online orders were received, but now I'm worried.

Because I was worried, however, I ordered a few more later that night and said I would send a check, which I have. The only problem is, there were no light discs in that order so my wife and son will likely get PO'd with me if the other ones don't make it. </font>

<font color="red">Worried in AL :( </font>

rtinsa
Feb 19 2004, 10:49 PM
Recieved mine [email protected]!! It said shipped this morning.... It did say processing... So one day when it says shipped and they arrive I was really patient.. Just wait guys and gals there heading your way.... THx zonedriven.... I state Patience. :p

Karma Police
Feb 19 2004, 11:34 PM
Russ,
Same thing happened to me. I thought maybe I was just seeing things but mine got debited...undebited...and debited again today when I got my discs. I wouldn't worry about it. You will get your discs. I think the incredible amount of orders at once just made things a bit insane with getting confirmation, debiting, tracking orders...etc. Don't worry, when it's over it's a very happy ending. At least it was for me! It will all happen again next year!

rtinsa
Feb 19 2004, 11:46 PM
Rightly Stated PlasticMan /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

tdwriter
Feb 19 2004, 11:57 PM
Thanks Candyred! I sent them an e-mail because I hate to drive them nuts calling them (like I'm sure a bunch of people are). Could be the first debit was checking available funds or something. Maybe there's a new Roc in my future after all! :cool:rWc

riverdog
Feb 20 2004, 11:30 AM
YeeeeeeHaaaa!!!!!!!! Two 179g glows in my grubby little paws.

WakandaRat
Feb 20 2004, 12:26 PM
It's funny that the glow havent sold out yet, Mine shipped on thursday and can't wait until they get here.

Feb 20 2004, 12:56 PM
Wife called me at work just now, I GOT MINE!!!
I'm happy with what I got

Ordered all MAX weight, 180:
Glo
Claw-Clear Orange
Hole 5-Pearl
Hole 5-Clear Yellow

I got:
180 Glo :cool:
180 Claw-Clear Orange :cool:
172 Hole 5-Pearl /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
172 Hole 5- Clear Pink /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Come to think of it, I would rather have Clear Pink (more unique) than Clear Yellow. ZD knows me better than I know myself :)

2 Perfect matches
2 almost perfect, a little lighter than I prefer but I'm still happy.

I think I did pretty well.

ZD ROCS!!!

Cdale600
Feb 20 2004, 01:37 PM
Got mine today.

Ordered
1x170 Clear Blue Claws
1xGlow

Got
1x170 Clear (Pearl White?) Claws
1xGlow

I actually wanted clear but couldn't find the choice, so I am thrilled. Now I wish I had ordered two glows so I could play one and keep the other in the bag. Not too late I guess, but man...another 40 bones?

Feb 20 2004, 01:45 PM
Anybody from CA recieved their order? :confused:

valkhere
Feb 20 2004, 01:57 PM
I got mine yesterday but I got 4 Pearl White discs, one with each stamp. They are between 167-169g. I am looking to trade with someone, a same stamp disc, near same weight but either in Pink or Purple. If anyone got any of these and would like a fair trade for a Pearl White one, shoot me an email at [email protected] Thanks!

tdwriter
Feb 20 2004, 02:04 PM
Wow, someone else from the south! See my post under "tourmaments." Our course is only 2.5-3 hours from Memphis. Spring Fling-It March 20-21.Consider this an invitation. :cool:rWc

m_conners
Feb 20 2004, 02:05 PM
What's the deal...i'm expecint mine soon and to honest I am disapointed with the reviews. I know that Innova can't please everybody with what they want, but don't tell consumers you can pick your color, weight and stamp and not deliver it. I thought it might have been to good to be true. I ordered some for a couple friends, they will be disapointed as well when I tell them they are not getting what they ordered. "yeah man i know you wanted a clear blue claw stamp at max weight, but instead youre getting a solid orange claw stamp at 172???? Still can't wait to get them though.

m_conners
Feb 20 2004, 02:05 PM
yo kid ROC, how does your order look?

twoputtok
Feb 20 2004, 02:15 PM
Mine was exactly as ordered.

1 -orange rig of rocs 180gr
1 glo 180gr
1 glo-179gr
1 glo 178gr

I'm happy. :D

m_conners
Feb 20 2004, 03:52 PM
Hey 2putt, blow it out your *** :D

Feb 20 2004, 04:12 PM
**** i still havent gotten mine yet, and i leave for AZ Monday...where the heck can it be....?

Feb 20 2004, 04:36 PM
It seems that the people that ordered a lot of Rocs got the shaft. I only ordered two (glow and reg) and got them both at 180. Maybe I am just lucky.



Ordered two, got two: right stamp, close on weight, wrong color. :(

memphisdiscgolf
Feb 20 2004, 04:47 PM
Mine actually weren't even that close. I ordered all green and didn't get one green. I also ordered all blue and only got one blue. And the weights were all over the place. Actually not a big deal to me but that's what happened.

dannyreeves
Feb 20 2004, 04:49 PM
I ordered all green and didn't get one green. I also ordered all blue and only got one blue.



How can you order all green and all blue? :D

Karma Police
Feb 20 2004, 04:51 PM
Hmmmmmmm. Curious indeed. /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

dannyreeves
Feb 20 2004, 04:55 PM
were you trying to get them to make you some turquois? :D

Feb 20 2004, 04:58 PM
just called ZD, they said there was no way i could get my tracking number and that there where just SWAMPED with ROC orders, i almost felt bad about it...ALMOST, lady said a couple more days, and its allready been 8 days and counting..i find myslef hoplessly looking out my window for Mr. Brown

mugilcephalus
Feb 20 2004, 05:05 PM
Wanted 3 Glows as heavy as I could get them. Got 3 at 179!

drdyedcom
Feb 20 2004, 05:34 PM
Got mine today!!! :D

2 regs 1-180 green, 1-170 pearl, 2 glows, 174, 177.

I ordered all max weight, but I am not unhappy with what I got. I knew that ZD wouldnt be able to fill everyones requests, they got pretty close to mine, and I am happy with their effort. I am going to go throw one right now!!! Its raining here, but what the hell, I cant wait.

Dick
Feb 20 2004, 05:46 PM
i might trade a max weight for the pearl.

Feb 20 2004, 05:49 PM
My order was no where even close to what I ordered. Heres what I have if anyone wants to trade. Im looking for anything 177 and above.

Cl. Orange - USDGC 6 - 171
Pearl - USDGC 6 - 174
Cl. Pink - Claw - 170
Pearl - Hole 5 - 171

memphisdiscgolf
Feb 20 2004, 06:02 PM
To be a little more specific I ordered 4 clear yellows at 175
4 clear greens at 175 and 4 blue's at 170

I ended up getting 7 whites, 1 green, 2 yellows and 1 orange , 1 red all ranging from 168 to 175 all over the board. MOST all under 175 :)

tdwriter
Feb 20 2004, 06:22 PM
Life is good. My wife a box of Rocs on our porch when she arrived home today!! :) :eek:

Ordered three light ones and received on 165g.The rest were in my weight range, but no purples :( Blue and red were my second choice, which I also ordered, BTW. All the Glows were really heavy. Would love to trade a made for one of the lighter ones if anyone's interested. Thanks, ZD for coming through. I'm pretty satisfied, but I'd love to trade for a 165 or 166 for my son. I can tell you what I have when I get home. :cool:RWC

Feb 20 2004, 06:30 PM
To be a little more specific I ordered 4 clear yellows at 175
4 clear greens at 175 and 4 blue's at 170

I ended up getting 7 whites, 1 green, 2 yellows and 1 orange , 1 red all ranging from 168 to 175 all over the board. MOST all under 175 :)



Hey Memphisdg, I've got a clear yellow 175 Ring-o'-Rocs that's useless to me. I'd be happy to trade for a white 174-175. Shoot me a PM if you're interested.

widiscgolf
Feb 20 2004, 06:39 PM
Anybody got one 175 or higher Pearl White 04 Roc to trade for any stamp 176G through 180G?

tdwriter
Feb 20 2004, 07:22 PM
Hey Elvis, I might trade something for that 168 if'n you're interested. I have many in the mid 170s, 176-177. LMK... rwC

brookep
Feb 20 2004, 07:41 PM
I have a 179 clear orange looking for 175 and higher pearl

jpg420
Feb 20 2004, 08:12 PM
avoid ebay and buy yours here for $50 got all 177 and above [email protected]

riverdog
Feb 20 2004, 08:14 PM
Just got in from a quick try out with the 179g Glo. In my hands it is very slightly more stable and slightly slower than my 2002 180g which is heavily used but not beat. I like it.

brookep
Feb 20 2004, 09:04 PM
Joe are you looking for cash or trade? I am looking to trade.

rhett
Feb 20 2004, 09:32 PM
Anybody from CA recieved their order? :confused:



I know mine shipped.

widiscgolf
Feb 20 2004, 09:51 PM
Interested in trading for a 2004 CE ROC PEARL WHITE 175 to 177G perfered.

I have Blue, Orange, Red. Weights from 176 to 180G All Stamps.

PM(private message) on PDGA

Feb 20 2004, 10:40 PM
Anybody from CA recieved their order? :confused:



not me yet :(

widiscgolf
Feb 20 2004, 10:48 PM
I would think for sure you would receive them by Monday if they shipped out UPS Ground.

Feb 20 2004, 11:41 PM
glad you got your rocs russ

Feb 20 2004, 11:47 PM
any rocs in Co yet??

tdwriter
Feb 21 2004, 01:02 AM
Hey thanks. I guess ZD's going nuts up there right now. A ZD rep was nice enough to e-mail me this morning to tell me that two orders were shipped today. They arrived this afternoon. Darn quick Big Brown Truck :D

I went through the packing slips and they were right on with the weights for me, 176 g, but we only got one 165 (wife and sons) when asked for three. We got some nice colors, but no PURPLE! I love purple discs! But weight is the real issue, so I'm not complaining!

I would be interested in trading a red, reddish/pink or yellow 176 for a couple of 165s, most any color and stamp (partial to ring o' rocs) or a PURPLE from 174-177. LMK if interested.

And BTW, how light do the Glow Rocs go and if anyone has some lighter than 179 and wants to trade for 179 or 180, LMK as well.

Thanks INNOVA AND ZD :D Russ C :cool:

gokayaksteven
Feb 21 2004, 01:46 AM
have not seen mine yet--i ordered 5 180 purples. it is not looking good

nbond
Feb 21 2004, 02:38 AM
No it is not. I have a friend that is returning his because the weights and stamps that he asked for were not what he recieved. I mean, I know that they are very busy but ****, I have read a lot of posts from unsatisfied customers. I think that ZD has been given a free pass by some but as a business you can't leave have your customers mad, can you? It just seem inconsistant, which a word to often associated with Innova. Somewhere Discraft people are laughing.

Feb 21 2004, 04:00 AM
Steinberg??? is that you??? one of my orders says its shipped.

hvnafit
Feb 21 2004, 06:28 AM
My order said shipped on Thursday and was here on Friday. Colors were off but weights are just right.If any one has a 168g Hole 5 in any color other than pearl or yellow i will trade them a pearl one for it. you can e-mail me at [email protected]
I am very pleased. the weight is the biggest thing with me!

Feb 21 2004, 10:39 AM
I think that ZD has been given a free pass by some but as a business you can't leave have your customers mad, can you? It just seem inconsistant, which a word to often associated with Innova. Somewhere Discraft people are laughing.



Actually, Nate, I don't think the problem is with ZoneDriven or Innova, I think it's impatience on our part. On one hand, we want the disc weights and colors we ordered; on the other, we want them yesterday.

Given the sheer volume of orders (1870 regular, 900+ glo sold in < 12 hours) and the pressure to deliver them quickly, ZD was confronted with a Hobbesian choice: be damned for take the time to match orders as closely as possible before shipping, or expedite shipping and be damned for getting the colors/weights wrong.

Given the number of "Can't wait to get mine" posts between Thurs when they went on sale and the time they started showing up at people's houses and the "Where's mine" posts even now, I can imagine the flood of criticism and "Where are they, dammit," posts would have been had they chosen to delay shipping and take the to match colors/weights. Would buyers as a group be happier had they taken a week to match colors/weights/stamps and ship all the 2003 USDGC Partners' orders, then another 2-3 weeks to match as closely as possible and ship the remaining orders? (Remember: they weren't going to be able to match colors/weights/stamps for everyone, or even necessarily for the majority, anyway due to the extremely limited number of discs of each color and stamp.) So despite the fact that I didn't get the colors I wanted, I think they made the correct decision. (Am I disappointed? Yes. Am I upset or mad? Definitely not. Would I order again, knowing I would get the colors I got? Absolutely!)

It is easy to say in retrospect that ZD should have been prepared for such an event. I dare say, however, that no one, and I do mean NO ONE: you, me, the folks at ZD, the folks at Innova, the folks at the USDGC, even the folks at Discraft and Gateway, was prepared for the feeding frenzy that occurred. Yes, the CE Rocs sold out in two weeks last year (two weeks, as opposed to 12 hours, mind you), and yes, one might have predicted they would sell out more quickly this year, but can anyone honestly say they expected them to sell out in less than 12 hours?)

riverdog
Feb 21 2004, 11:34 AM
Ditto Felix!

drdyedcom
Feb 21 2004, 01:25 PM
I have to agree with Fore.

I didnt get exactly what I wanted, but how can you expect everyone to get exactly what they wanted when 1000 people place their orders for 8 max weight discs when they only made 500(I dont know the exact #s, just using as an example).

I thank ZD for doing such a great job under so much pressure, and in doing their best to fill everyones needs!!! And I will definatly be buying them again next year!!! :D

tdwriter
Feb 21 2004, 01:59 PM
You're correct Felix! I may not have gotten "exactly" what I wanted, but I'm definitely not upset with Innova or ZD. I think they were quite fast with the shipping, considering when I ordered. And yes, I posted a couple of "impatient messages," but I think sometimes we're spoiled by being able to get instant confirmations, tracking numbers and estimated arrival dates on many of the items we order. And many of us, me included, didn't want to be left out.

As far as anyone laughing at Innova and ZD. Laugh at the amount of money they raised for the USDGC. With all respect to the other disc manufacturers, could they produce a disc that would sell out in 12 hours at $25 a pop? :D

Only time will tell. rWc :cool:

rob
Feb 21 2004, 04:11 PM
As far as anyone laughing at Innova and ZD. Laugh at the amount of money they raised for the USDGC. With all respect to the other disc manufacturers, could they produce a disc that would sell out in 12 hours at $25 a pop? :D


I don't think anyone is laughing.
Innova and ZoneDriven may be wishing that they had more to sell, as there are lots of people wanting to buy. Maybe it's a good thing, selling out on <12 hours. It only adds to the legend of the Roc.

hvnafit
Feb 21 2004, 05:38 PM
I went out today and threw my pearl 169 claws roc. the wind was blowing at or about 25 to 30 mph gust. i banged chains twice on open holes and once in the woods. i love the way they fly!!!!!!!!!! i never flipped it. seems to be as stable as i could ask for.

gokayaksteven
Feb 21 2004, 06:34 PM
would gladly wait longer for what i ordered. take your time and do it right i always say. if folks are getting impatient then too bad for them

Feb 21 2004, 06:46 PM
would gladly wait longer for what i ordered.



With no guarantee they'll have what you ordered by the time they get to your order? Maybe they should make a note of that and fill your order LAST next year. :D:D:D

Feb 21 2004, 07:24 PM
i have 2 max weight 180 1 orange ror 1yellow claws....wanted a pearl white...would love to trade one of these for a pearl 176 or higher.....

Feb 21 2004, 07:50 PM
I threw my girlfriend's 165 gram roc today, and it flipped over with little effort, I almost wish I had gotten myself a light one.

Feb 21 2004, 09:21 PM
Honestly, how does one develop the balls to throw these things?? I struggle with the concept of throwing them, they're too precious. I'm keeping mines mint, if E-bay's still around 10 years from now, you'll see them up.

Wynne

Feb 21 2004, 09:30 PM
Man, I finally got my 180g CE Glo Roc. I was dying to get it to see how it flies. Only, I opened the package to find that it is too pretty to throw. I am NOT a collector and I can't make myself rip open that little plastic bag and peel off the 698 of 1550 sticker. Blasted!!! I wouldn't have bought it if I knew it was gonna be this pretty.

Feb 22 2004, 12:23 AM
Honestly, how does one develop the balls to throw these things?? I struggle with the concept of throwing them, they're too precious. I'm keeping mines mint, if E-bay's still around 10 years from now, you'll see them up.



It's not about balls, it's about motivation and perspective: players play, speculators speculate. If you're a collector or a speculator, of course they're too valuable to throw; if you're not a collector or speculator, but bought them as a way of supporting the USDGC, it's simply another disc�no more, no less, and there's no reason for you NOT to throw them.

Feb 22 2004, 12:36 AM
i bought mine purly to throw, ive heard nuthn but great tihngs about they whay they fly so i had to get one...still cant wait to see what it does, it better get here by the time i have to fly to the memorial.

Feb 22 2004, 12:55 AM
I have a 180 orange 2004 CE roc that i'm looking to trade for a 175+ pearl. it's the star stamp. sweet.

hvnafit
Feb 22 2004, 01:27 PM
i bought mine purly to throw, ive heard nuthn but great tihngs about they whay they fly so i had to get one...still cant wait to see what it does, it better get here by the time i have to fly to the memorial.



I agree totally with you! i am a disc golfer: not a collector. I am also not a money hungry person that will buy as many as possiable and/or also use another e-mail account and differant credit card number to get another max order. to be able to sell them for a large profit. it still does benfit the USDGC, but it also lines others pockets. which does nothing for disc golf. true collectors are a different story i can and do respect collecting. i have sent innova and zone driven e-mail wishing they would cut back on the max number sold to everyone (1 disc of every print; ring of rocs, stars, hole 5, etc.). this way the people who got left out would have a better chance to get their order next year and would cut down on the ones who buy for profit. i was very lucky and recived my order (1 of each print, no glo). i can tell you i would have went without the disc (each one will be thrown) if i would have had to buy off of e-bay.

rob
Feb 23 2004, 01:31 AM
I'm not really a collector, but I agree with Casey. It's just too hard to rip open the package. The regular ones though, they're gonna fly. I've thrown my 177 pearl white, it's stable and flies beautifully. I don't know if it's a different mold or just the plastic/color, but the pearl white is more stable than the '03 Roc, IMHO. I have not thrown the other '04 Rocs: has anyone out there thrown the clear, pearl, and glow? Reviews please

Chris Hysell
Feb 23 2004, 08:38 AM
I threw mine into the closet. They don't fly very well sealed in plastic. 5 glow Rocs sat on my porch from Friday until last night and no one took them. Either I live so far out in the woods or they really aren't that valuable.

Feb 23 2004, 09:13 AM
I threw mine into the closet.



I'm gonna save this post to use against you when you sell them as "new, unthrown, in the original, sealed package" on ebay. :) :D ;) :p :cool:/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Chris Hysell
Feb 23 2004, 09:30 AM
I tried to put one on the glow wall but it won't hang on the wall if I leave it in the bag.

WakandaRat
Feb 23 2004, 10:39 AM
I tried to put one on the glow wall but it won't hang on the wall if I leave it in the bag.



how about putting 2 nails in the wall, and rest it on them,

Feb 23 2004, 10:40 AM
I tried to put one on the glow wall but it won't hang on the wall if I leave it in the bag.


I had the same problem. I used scotch tape on the back to create a hump. Its hanging fine now. At first, the tape was there just to make sure I didn't rip a hole in the bag with the nail its hanging on.

Chris Hysell
Feb 23 2004, 10:44 AM
Sorry guys but they really aren't going on my wall. I think the plastic bag would take away from the aesthetics of the current glow-wall setup. Of course, I could start a bagged disc wall. Bagged comic book walls are common. It might happen.

Feb 23 2004, 11:02 AM
ordered a 180 red "ring of rocs" 2004 roc

got a 172 pearl white "stars" 2004 roc :mad:

this was after i explicitly asked for 180 only, and if there were no more 180, then to contact me. no contact, only lightweight, wrong color roc with gayest stamp available. terrible.

Feb 23 2004, 01:11 PM
that sucks! i'd be getting a refund or replacement. Thats the only reason i don't buy CE rocs from zonedriven. Spending that kind of money on a disc that you don't get what color or weight you want is pointless to me. I'll stick to my trusty Z-Rocs. :)

Feb 23 2004, 01:15 PM
if i can't trade it for anything worthwhile, it will be sent back

tafe
Feb 23 2004, 03:38 PM
OUT-FLIPPINSTANDING!!! Finally got 'em today. Did I get specifically what I asked for? No. Am I dissapointed? NO! They were pretty close. At least I have a full set in different colors. And listening to what y'all have said so far, even though I asked for all max wt. and got a 167 and 3 172's besides the 179's, I still feel pretty lucky. Think I'll hold on to those light weight's too. With all the chaos that ensued I think ZD handled it as best they could. THANK YOU. :D

tafe
Feb 23 2004, 03:40 PM
BTW, just wondering, who has glo #1?

Chris Hysell
Feb 23 2004, 03:48 PM
Ummm, are they numbered? I really didn't notice. I got two silver stamps, two red stamps and one blue. No Willie Wonka gold tickets. :(

Chris Hysell
Feb 23 2004, 03:50 PM
I guess I messed up by not asking for weights. I got 4 of the same weight, 180 grams and one light one, 179 grams. Those things are too heavy for me to throw. I guess I'll just collect them.

gnduke
Feb 23 2004, 03:50 PM
I received Glow #20.

And I had 2 partner passes.

widiscgolf
Feb 23 2004, 04:09 PM
I got #100 & #101

flynvegas
Feb 23 2004, 04:12 PM
I'm hoping they reach Nevada today. As a collector, I'll be happy with what ever they send.

WakandaRat
Feb 23 2004, 05:10 PM
Rocs for resale at discgolfworld.com only $30.00, Picked up a few more myself. Cheaper than ebay

Discgolfworld.com (http://www.discgolfworld.com/product.asp?A=8&AV=485&mscssid=6GC9N6KJWQWB9NAB8NPLSA12WCWBFG84)

Chris Hysell
Feb 23 2004, 05:20 PM
Read the fine print.......

Colors of disc and stamp may vary from what is pictured.

Still, it is a better deal than Ebay.

WakandaRat
Feb 23 2004, 05:22 PM
True, but not really any different from zone driven. I would call them and they should be able to tell you what they have left

Chris Hysell
Feb 23 2004, 05:27 PM
I just thought I would point it out before someone posted @&%$$#Discgolfworld.

sclabuji
Feb 23 2004, 05:32 PM
Just got mine today. Four glows and eight regular ones. Didn't even get close to my color choices, but were within one gram of weight choices. Overall, pretty happy.

I did notice that the plastic on these seems a little firmer than the 2003 rocs I have. Anyone else notice any major mold/plastic difference in these and previous years. I don't have and '01 or '02 so I can't make the comparison.

Happy in Vegas.

my_hero
Feb 23 2004, 06:20 PM
I ordered 1 of each stamp, and asked for all PEARL with the weight not mattering because i can't throw them anyway. As a two-time competitor at the USDGC, i figured i would still support the event due to my absence this year.(Baby Hero is due 3/18/04.....no USDGC for me this year)

I received 1 pearl "ring o rocs", 1 YELLOW "usdgc star"180g , 1 ORANGE "hole #5"180g, and 1 RED "claw" 180g

Receiving 1 out of 4 of what you ordered is pretty lame.

Anybody have any pearl "claw","star", or "hole5" that they would like to trade for any of the max weight colored discs i have listed above?

rocknrog
Feb 23 2004, 07:39 PM
I got white pearl hole #5 171, white pearl claw 174 and white pearl stars 174 and orange see thru Stars 172,

I ordered opaque colors requesting max weight with a note stamp & color unimportant, weight was important though... seems our orders were mixed up... pm me if you would like to trade...... the pearl ones

anybody want to trade for the see thru orange let me know

eddie_ogburn
Feb 23 2004, 07:46 PM
I have plenty of pearls to trade...

Feb 23 2004, 10:24 PM
I have an Orange 180g hole #5 with a silver stamp. Looking to trade for a heavy green or blue hole #5.

Anyone interested?

Feb 23 2004, 11:24 PM
I got mine today and got exactly what I asked for. I only ordered three discs though (2 max weight glos and an orange max weight claw stamp). :D

gnduke
Feb 24 2004, 12:45 AM
If you still need to trade, I have plenty of pearls in every stamp.

Get with me Saturday.

widiscgolf
Feb 24 2004, 01:56 AM
What weights do you have in the pearl white? Doesn't matter what stamp.

dm4
Feb 24 2004, 10:08 AM
I guess I messed up by not asking for weights. I got 4 of the same weight, 180 grams and one light one, 179 grams. Those things are too heavy for me to throw. I guess I'll just collect them.



Why would they send max weight when no weight was specified? That happened to my_hero too. Wouldn't you think they would send lighter weights to those who did not say. I have read page after page of those who asked for max and did not get it. What's the deal? :confused:

Chris Hysell
Feb 24 2004, 10:18 AM
They like me.

I ordered some more and specified weights. Lets see what happens when they come in.

dm4
Feb 24 2004, 04:11 PM
Got my 179 glow roc today (and a first run champion mini)!!!!! I bought it to give as a CTP prize for our tourney, but I like it so much I might just keep it. Are the autographs real or printed? Who does have #1? Very nice disc Innova, keep up the good work! I want one to throw, but can't afford it. Maybe in a couple weeks if there are some left (tax refund!). :D

dannyreeves
Feb 24 2004, 04:21 PM
I have a 167 Pearl Roc with the Ring of Roc's stamp. I would like to trade for a 180 Ring of Rocs stamp, any color. Any takers?

Feb 24 2004, 07:00 PM
It seems Pearl 04 Rocs are the most wanted. Why? My pearl roc seems a tad more gummy than the clear colored ones- just an observation.

Feb 24 2004, 08:57 PM
The rocs have landed in Co. I ordered a blue 180 stars, and got a orange 179 stars and diggin' it!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

tafe
Feb 24 2004, 09:55 PM
Autographs are authentic. I compared a few. There's something not right about asking your two champions to sign all those discs. ;) Ouch!! Now go throw.

Feb 24 2004, 10:21 PM
i still havent gotten mine :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(...............but when i do :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

vwkeepontruckin
Feb 25 2004, 12:48 AM
I guess I messed up by not asking for weights. I got 4 of the same weight, 180 grams and one light one, 179 grams. Those things are too heavy for me to throw. I guess I'll just collect them.



Why would they send max weight when no weight was specified? That happened to my_hero too. Wouldn't you think they would send lighter weights to those who did not say. I have read page after page of those who asked for max and did not get it. What's the deal? :confused:



Not to **** anyone off, but if you are looking for a CE Roc to actually throw, heres some advice that will save you at least $50: Buy a Z-Wasp. Collecting on the other hand is a different story...

Feb 25 2004, 01:18 AM
"i didn't get the blue 180 i ordered"
"i got these 3 colors instead of the 3 colors i ordered"

At least you folks got something. Something that is instantly worth twice what you payed for it.

Don't forget there were hundreds if not thousands that didn't get anything at all. Be happy you were the lucky ones and quit whining about this color or that stamp or whatever. You're acting like a bunch of spoiled little kids. It's really pretty pathetic.

gnduke
Feb 25 2004, 01:25 AM
Looking to trade for a Blue stamp on White Pearl Hole 5 Stamp.

I have a Red stamp on Blue Clear 179g or a Blue stamp on Orange Clear @ 180g to trade. Both are Hole 5 stamps

dannyreeves
Feb 25 2004, 02:29 AM
I guess I messed up by not asking for weights. I got 4 of the same weight, 180 grams and one light one, 179 grams. Those things are too heavy for me to throw. I guess I'll just collect them.



Why would they send max weight when no weight was specified? That happened to my_hero too. Wouldn't you think they would send lighter weights to those who did not say. I have read page after page of those who asked for max and did not get it. What's the deal? :confused:



Not to **** anyone off, but if you are looking for a CE Roc to actually throw, heres some advice that will save you at least $50: Buy a Z-Wasp. Collecting on the other hand is a different story...



Amen.

Chris Hysell
Feb 25 2004, 09:25 AM
I always let the Innova guys throw my Wasps. They are intitled to a thrill once in a while.

my_hero
Feb 25 2004, 09:33 AM
Be happy you were the lucky ones and quit whining about this color or that stamp or whatever.



What if you're a collector and wanted a set or two of identical discs?

Do your salt an pepper shakers match? Mine do :D

Besides, i'm quite happy with my Z-Wasps! :o

Feb 25 2004, 09:43 AM
Got my rocs, but unfortunately they were way off. I was very disappointed to find that instead of getting the 177 blue claws and the 177 green ring o rocs i ended up with a 169 yellow claw and a 169 white hole 5. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad i was lucky enough to even get those but I am a thrower not a collector and those weights are very far off. I think the way the ordering was set up sucked. If i knew that my order wasnt even going to be close then I wouldnt have bothered filling out what weight, color, or stamp that I wanted. What was the point. I also got some glows which are beautiful and of course not throwable but I wish I could have spent today trying the colors. But now I must keep them nice in case anyone wants to trade. Regardless, anyone looking for lightweight rocs at 169 please let me know. I will trade for anything (well almost anything) in the 175-178 range.

ericconnolly
Feb 25 2004, 10:38 AM
Maybe this belongs on Traders Row but...

For all you folks looking for a light CE ROC, I have a Yellow Hole #5 and/or a Pearl Claws both at 169. I'd like to trade for a max weight (178-180), but I may take a 175 or above (pending stamp and color and such). PM if interested.

flynvegas
Feb 25 2004, 11:48 AM
I receieved my Roc's yesterday. I got the stamps I ordered, the weights were fairly close. I didn't get all max. weight, and did end up with several in the high 160's. I'm very happy. The glow Roc's were all heavy, and the numbers ranged from the 200's to the 500's. I've got more of those coming, but expect those to be even higher in the numbering.

One had a shipping rub across the top, that'll be the one that gets thrown. Makes that decision easy because they're all so sweet. Roc on!

gokayaksteven
Feb 25 2004, 01:17 PM
i did better than i thought i would. i ordered 4 180 purples with the ring of rocs stamp. i got one purple 177 ring of rocs and three blue/green 180 ring of rocs. i understand [after i ordered] that purples were scarce, so i am very pleased.

boru
Feb 25 2004, 02:33 PM
Don't forget there were hundreds if not thousands that didn't get anything at all. Be happy you were the lucky ones and quit whining about this color or that stamp or whatever. You're acting like a bunch of spoiled little kids. It's really pretty pathetic.



Getting something was more about being on the ball than about luck. If you cared enough to follow this thread, get on the call list, keep checking Zonedriven, and then drop everything the moment they went on sale, you got something. I didn't even order until they'd been going for 3 hours and I still got pretty much what I asked for.

And if all the whining upsets you . . . stop whining about it and don't read the thread.

tdwriter
Feb 25 2004, 02:38 PM
I'm not unhappy with what I got, except the order was short two light Rocs and I asked for purple and didn't get one. Wanted it for personal preference, not collectability. Still, The ones I did receive were right in my preferred weight range. Too many star stamps, though :DBut I still love 'em. rWc :cool:

Feb 25 2004, 02:39 PM
Sorry.... No ROC for you!!

ROC Nazi.

I wish I had been able to get one!! It's AWESOME to see such high demand for these!! Should help to make the USDGC even better!!! If that's possible. Congrats to those that were lucky enough to get one.

Great job ZD!!

The rest of yah quit your biatchin'! You know who you are!

-m

flynvegas
Feb 25 2004, 02:47 PM
Right on! I had my name on the list, followed this thread, checked frequently the ZD site. I placed my order within 15 minutes of the sale beginning. I'm very pleased.

boru
Feb 25 2004, 03:10 PM
Not to **** anyone off, but if you are looking for a CE Roc to actually throw, heres some advice that will save you at least $50: Buy a Z-Wasp.



Can't. Spent all my money on Rocs . . .

Mine came yesterday. I asked for Pearl 180 Ring of Rocs and Orange 175 Claws. I got Pearl 175 Stars and Clear Blue 177 Claws.

Considering I asked for something that doesn't even exist (Pearl 180 Ring of Rocs), I'm pretty happy. The Pearl plastic feels awesome. I'm looking forward to throwing it tonight.

Some random thoughts, because I know you all care deeply:

It seems like nobody wants to take their glow Rocs out of the package because it will decrease the resale value. The problem is, if everybody keeps theirs in mint condition, the resale value won't go up! It's clear that such a nice disc, individually numbered and specially packaged with an autographed card, is targeted at collectors. The price alone would probably deter many people (like me) from throwing it. In creating the ultimate collector's piece, Innova may have inadvertently kept the disc's ultimate value lower. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that the people paying $150 for 2001 CE Rocs on Ebay right now are either serious collectors, seriously addicted to throwing them, or seriously rich. Let's consider those three groups in a couple years: Serious collectors will have been able to get their 2004 glow Rocs. In fact, they probably have them already. The only way people will get addicted to throwing these discs is if people throw them. If everyone keeps theirs in the package, or on the wall, they won't become an irreplaceable part of anyone's bag. As for seriously rich disc golfers? There can't be many of those. So my question is, who's going to buy these discs in a few years? The $40 price tag is already a deterrent. Compare this to the $25 2004 Rocs. Some people want to collect them, others want to throw them. Not only do they sell out in hours, but many of them won't stay in mint condition for long. The supply of new ones will steadily decrease, driving the price up. Anyone who wants to make money later should figure out which stamp/color/weight is the most sought after and hoard them. Someone mentioned the Pearl as a likely candidate. Well, after this evening, there will be one less mint-condition Pearl 175 Stars Roc.

I could be wrong about all this, and in any case, those who bought the glow Rocs shouldn't feel bad. It's a great-looking disc, and the higher price means more money for the USDGC. I still might buy one if a few skins rounds go my way . . .

Random thought #2 is more of a question: How much did the CE Rocs from other years originally sell for?

dannyreeves
Feb 25 2004, 03:12 PM
Not to **** anyone off, but if you are looking for a CE Roc to actually throw, heres some advice that will save you at least $50: Buy a Z-Wasp.



Can't. Spent all my money on Rocs . . .




That is hilarious.

boru
Feb 25 2004, 03:17 PM
Not to **** anyone off, but if you are looking for a CE Roc to actually throw, heres some advice that will save you at least $50: Buy a Z-Wasp.



Can't. Spent all my money on Rocs . . .




That is hilarious.



Strangely, my girlfriend didn't see it that way. Of course, what I said to her was more along the lines of, "Can't pay the electric bill. Spent all my money on Rocs." Women . . .

widiscgolf
Feb 25 2004, 03:19 PM
awww that's just discrap! hehe

dannyreeves
Feb 25 2004, 03:20 PM
Not to **** anyone off, but if you are looking for a CE Roc to actually throw, heres some advice that will save you at least $50: Buy a Z-Wasp.



Can't. Spent all my money on Rocs . . .




That is hilarious.



Strangely, my girlfriend didn't see it that way. Of course, what I said to her was more along the lines of, "Can't pay the electric bill. Spent all my money on Rocs." Women . . .



Screw the electric bill. Just get a flashlight and charge your Glo Rocs. That should light up the house.

widiscgolf
Feb 25 2004, 03:26 PM
That's what I'm talking about Kid_Roc.

Rocs are more important!!!!! hehe.

boru
Feb 25 2004, 03:29 PM
Screw the electric bill. Just get a flashlight and charge your Glo Rocs. That should light up the house.



Now that's the kind of thinking we need around here! I didn't get any glow Rocs though, because they cost too much. Guess I'll just have to use my trusty Photon Wasp.

What's really sad is I spent almost as much on shipping as on the discs themselves. The only option on ZD for shipping to Hawaii is UPS Next Day Air. Two discs ship for $35. I asked them if there was any other option, and they wrote back, saying they found out they could use 2nd Day Air for about half the cost. They used 2nd Day Air, but I still have to check that they remembered to change the amount they charged me. This is a few days after Gateway charged me $10 for shipping to Hawaii, then sent my discs Priority mail . . . for $3.85! Not everything about living in Hawaii is paradise.

dm4
Feb 25 2004, 03:47 PM
We all feel real sorry for ya boru, real sorry. :(

boru
Feb 25 2004, 03:55 PM
Maybe February isn't the best time to complain about living in Hawaii.

Chris Hysell
Feb 25 2004, 04:02 PM
Back in the day my mom would threaten me by telling me to behave or all I would get for Xmas was a box of rocks. My 2nd box of Rocs is supposed to be in Friday. I like misbehaving.

Sharky
Feb 25 2004, 04:09 PM
Might have to change your license plate?

Chris Hysell
Feb 25 2004, 04:12 PM
Not happening. As I posted earlier, my evil plan is to buy them all to prevent them from being used against me. Or, I could resell them for more which could cut into other player's disc golf budgets and they wouldn't be able to play in as many events as I do. I am an evil villain.

my_hero
Feb 25 2004, 05:06 PM
Evil will prevail! :D

widiscgolf
Feb 25 2004, 05:22 PM
Again, that's a load of discrap!

Feb 25 2004, 07:06 PM
i'll throw tha glow. and guess what. the "beautiful" stamp will be comin off with a bit 'o acetone. collector schmalector.

dm4
Feb 25 2004, 07:23 PM
Could someone tell me about the ring of rocs stamp? The disc I recieved (Ebay), is white with alternating red and black roc's. It does not say "2004 USDGC". The plastic is not smooth or see through. Is it the real deal? :confused:

tafe
Feb 25 2004, 07:27 PM
You have a DX Roc. Worth about $10.

Feb 25 2004, 07:33 PM
i'll throw tha glow. and guess what. the "beautiful" stamp will be comin off with a bit 'o acetone. collector schmalector.



I'm with you on that one.... IMO, the Ken/Barry stamp is the weakest of the bunch.... plus I buy em to throw em.... Flame on.

junnila
Feb 25 2004, 07:33 PM
This was probably posted already (crazy roc collectors) but exactly how many rocs were produced...ce/glo...or all together? I ordered 2 glows and am just curious...support the usdgc...who knows when you will be there... :confused:

tdwriter
Feb 25 2004, 07:36 PM
Is it white? I saw some white ring of rocks discs being offered, I thought on ZD, some time ago, but now they're gone. They were NOT CE as I recall, but it was the same ring of rocs stamp, just without the flags and USDGC logo in the center. I believe the 2004 CE ring of rocs stamps are all one color, but don't take my word for it. I also saw one of these Rocs on ebay some time ago. rWc :cool:

Feb 25 2004, 07:56 PM
Could someone tell me about the ring of rocs stamp? The disc I recieved (Ebay), is white with alternating red and black roc's. It does not say "2004 USDGC". The plastic is not smooth or see through. Is it the real deal? :confused:



The Pearl White '04 CE Rocs aren't see-through, but they're smooth like other candy plastic. Click here (http://www.innovadiscs.com/images/04discs/04ringhi.jpg) for a picture of the 2004 USDGC CE "Ring-o'-Rocs" hotstamp.

Not gonna call the person who sold the disc a crook, but if the disc you bought was listed as a 2004 CE Roc and it doesn't have the words "USDGC 04" in the hotstamp, it's extremely doubtful that it's the genuine article.

Feb 25 2004, 08:05 PM
Is it white? I saw some white ring of rocks discs being offered, I thought on ZD, some time ago, but now they're gone. They were NOT CE as I recall, but it was the same ring of rocs stamp, just without the flags and USDGC logo in the center. I believe the 2004 CE ring of rocs stamps are all one color, but don't take my word for it. I also saw one of these Rocs on ebay some time ago. rWc :cool:



"Ring-o'-Rocs" stamped DX Rocs have been around for a while.

No flags or USDGC logo in the 2004 USDGC "Ring-o'-Rocs" hotstamp, just the words "USDGC 04." On hotstamp color, I've got green and gold, and have seen red, blue, and silver.

rob
Feb 25 2004, 08:08 PM
Evil will prevail! :D


Are you guys saying that Innova is GOOD & Discraft is EVIL? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

rtinsa
Feb 25 2004, 08:25 PM
There were 1550 glow rocs made and not sure about the other rocs sir! Thinking about buying one to throw HUmmmmm /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
I have #550

Feb 25 2004, 08:53 PM
The number of non-glo 2004s is reported to be "around 1870." [Matt Peckham, Innova Web Designer extraordinarie (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Board=Equipment&amp;Number=140191&amp;Searchp age=0&amp;Main=133390&amp;Search=truePost140191)]

(Hi, Matt!) ;)

tdwriter
Feb 25 2004, 08:56 PM
Boru, I plan on throwing one of my Glow Rocs as soon as I can trade one of these darn max weight ones for something lighter! Unfortunately, no one here seems interested in trading, so I'll have to break the seal on the 179 I got. The regular CEs look so much like the 2003s. I have a 2003 I've been throwing for about a year and it's still in great condition and it's been used a bunch. Plus, I'm still trying to get my hands on a purple 2004 :( If nothing happens soon, there is a nice red 176 thats marked for the bag! Rest assured, I'll do my part to increase the scarcity of the Glow CE Rocs. rWc :cool:

dannyreeves
Feb 25 2004, 09:01 PM
Evil will prevail! :D


Are you guys saying that Innova is GOOD & Discraft is EVIL? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



You are a quick one. :p

Paul Taylor
Feb 25 2004, 09:04 PM
dm4

Post the URL// of the eBay auction so that some of us can see if the disc is for real or not. If it is not then you need to contact the seller and eBay. If you paid through PayPal then you also will have some options there also.

Good Luck..

dannyreeves
Feb 25 2004, 09:05 PM
Hoe much did you pay for it?

boru
Feb 25 2004, 09:37 PM
i'll throw tha glow. and guess what. the "beautiful" stamp will be comin off with a bit 'o acetone. collector schmalector.



Good.


I'm with you on that one.... IMO, the Ken/Barry stamp is the weakest of the bunch.... plus I buy em to throw em.... Flame on.



Great!


Boru, I plan on throwing one of my Glow Rocs as soon as I can trade one of these darn max weight ones for something lighter!



Excellent!!!

I plan on throwing my two non-glows, and if I bought a glow, I'd throw it. I just don't see the demand for them being as high as for the others. For one thing, they're expensive. For another, midrange discs don't get lost very often. And as you point out Russ3523, they last a long time. All of that says to me that even die-hard throwers won't be buying them in huge stacks. Last I checked, you could still get the glows off ZD. That's good news for you guys, not so great for people who want to make money off them down the road.

A couple questions: f.luke, are you dyeing the disc after you take off the stamp or just leaving it blank? A blank glow disc would look pretty cool.

And do you guys play a lot of night golf, or did you choose the glow plastic to throw during the day because of the way it flies?

tdwriter
Feb 25 2004, 09:43 PM
I'm not sure this is the one, but it sounds like the disc he described Ring of Rocs Auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3660678094&category=20851) I was really surprised that it sold for so much, because as far as I know, it's just a DX Roc with a cool stamp. Am I wrong? Were these made out of something other than DX plastic. It seems clear that this was not a 2004 CE Roc, at least to me. rWc :cool:

rtinsa
Feb 25 2004, 09:55 PM
I also read that post... And in the description it does kinda get you for a sec, but it does describe a DX roc !
I have to agree with the fella above!^ :o

Feb 25 2004, 10:02 PM
ya, i saw that and thought about buying a few from ZD :D

but i finally got my rocs!!!!!!!!!! yay!!!!!!!!!! :Dall were pretty close except the pearls were 167 and 170 if anyone wants to trade for heavier any color excpet orange or pink any stamp i just want heavier.

Feb 25 2004, 10:32 PM
why does everyone rag on the orange rocs so much?? i love my 179 orange!

Feb 25 2004, 10:34 PM
I like orange as well. They are easy to find.

Karma Police
Feb 25 2004, 10:36 PM
Wow. That did go for a lot. I wish I would have picked some of those up. Thought about it several times but never did. Hopefully ZD will get some more of those.

Feb 25 2004, 10:41 PM
I feel sorry for the poor fool that paid over 30 dollars for that dx roc. I don't know what would be worse; not noticing that it was a dx roc or knowing and paying that much for it anyways.

Karma Police
Feb 25 2004, 10:57 PM
Well you can be sure I won't pay $32 for it. It's a nice disc and all but not worth that much. Now if it was an Ontario..... :eek:

tdwriter
Feb 25 2004, 11:05 PM
That blew me away (the price) since I saw them, and it was apparently on the ZD website, for I think $10-$12. I was wondering if there was some reason they were slightly more than your average DX Roc, other than the cool stamp. I love my 11x KC ROcs and even they are only about $10. (or less if you win them :D) I just like white Rocs and the bird! rWc :cool:

Karma Police
Feb 25 2004, 11:16 PM
I have no idea why that person paid that much for the disc. They just really must have wanted it. I've heard that the color stamped Rocs are a bit flatter and people really like them. Oops, gotta go. Dogs are humping again. :p

Feb 25 2004, 11:38 PM
So who else has thown these things? They seem to feel and look the same as last years. Are the regs the same as the glows?

Feb 25 2004, 11:59 PM
why does everyone rag on the orange rocs so much?? i love my 179 orange!



I love orange discs and loved the orange 03 rocs but the orange that they had this year was not a good color. The red kinda looked orange and i like that only i like red better so that is why i said that

Feb 26 2004, 12:00 AM
So who else has thown these things? They seem to feel and look the same as last years. Are the regs the same as the glows?



I will throw a few of mine tomorrow to day was too windy and rainy :( i reall wanted to throw them today too becasue i have been waiting for so long to get them :( o well at least i have them. and i can throw them tomorrow :D

Karma Police
Feb 26 2004, 09:05 AM
I've thrown one of mine. Stable...stable...stable.

mmaclay
Feb 26 2004, 09:46 AM
I finally got mine yesterday adnd since I got them so late, I was not suprised that I got the dregs. Not that what I got are bad discs but:

Ordered:
180 green ROR stamp
175 green ROR
180 blue Ring of rocs stamp.

Got:
2 pearl white 171g Hole 5 stamp and Claw stamp.
1 red/orange 171g Stat stamp.

Kinda disappointed to tell you the truth. I did notice one thing. The pearl discs seem to be less domey than the red discs. Did anyone else notice a similar thing with their pearl rocs?

I'd be willing to trade for a max weight disc in green or blue if anyone is interrested. [email protected]

-Max

Sharky
Feb 26 2004, 10:12 AM
The pearl ones are most certainly flatter. Rhmiracle got a stack and was nice enough to pass two along to me at cost the two 173's I requested, one was pearl the other another color, I looked at about 8 that rich had and all the other colors were domey. I think perhaps the glo ones are flat too, not sure on that. Anyway, I broke out the pearl one and am throwing it, it flies quite similar to the 2001s.

widiscgolf
Feb 26 2004, 11:09 AM
Well I am looking for Pearl White 04 CE ROCS. Any stamp weights have to be 175g to 177g. I have Blue/Red 04 CE Rocs for equal trade for. Let me know, just PM me here.

Feb 26 2004, 11:30 AM
This is my sorry for,
your 2004
So sorry for
your 2004

I'm sorry for
the wrong weight ..
I'm sorry

I'm sorry
for wrong color...
I'm sorry

I'm sorry
for the wrong stamp.
I'm sorry

So sorry for
your 2004

widiscgolf
Feb 26 2004, 11:44 AM
Look we all know that ZoneDriven and Innova didn�t do so well getting these USDGC 2004 CE ROCS out, but look at the larger picture.

1. They sold out within 24 hours! (They did not expect that considering it took 2 weeks last year)
2. They made $50,000+ within 24 hours for the USDGC.
3. Their website got slammed with thousands of users trying to purchase the roc. Yes they were overwhelmed.

With all of that happening I am not surprised there were orders out there that were not even close to what they wanted. You have to look at this from afar. Innova and ZD did an awesome thing for the USDGC. I understand they were not prepared for this. Hopefully next year they will learn from this mistake and be better prepared. With all the phone calls, emails and website orders I can better understand why they did not complete the orders as requested. I will still purchase from them over and over. As long as it helps this beautiful game of Disc Golf. Again this is just my own opinion on the matter.

discgolf

rhett
Feb 26 2004, 12:23 PM
We could just keep complaining about it, and then the answer might be that you have to pick them up in person next year so you can touch each one before you buy and therefore be happy.

Except anybody not on the East Coast will have to buy them through eBay.

I'm sure you can probably send them back if you are that unhappy that you actually got some. So please do that or hit the traders row thread. Thanks!

I just orchestrated a deal to unload one of these max-weight pigs for a light on efor my wife. It took about five minutes to find someone to trade with.

boru
Feb 26 2004, 02:16 PM
We could just keep complaining about it, and then the answer might be that you have to pick them up in person next year so you can touch each one before you buy and therefore be happy.



Or they could take the orders the same way they did this year . . . and then make us wait 6 weeks while they sorted out who got what. Even so, people who got their orders in last wouldn't get what they wanted.

This reminds me of an infamous wedding gown sale that Filene's Basement in Boston has every year. They put all these designer dresses on sale for a fraction of the original cost. Hordes of women gather outside the door, and then when the store opens, they all run in and grab whatever they can reach, regardless of size or style. Then, when everything's taken, they look around for people to trade with.

So next year we all just need to remember this isn't normal disc shopping. And if you absolutely must have a certain weight/color/stamp, then this probably isn't the event for you.

widiscgolf
Feb 26 2004, 02:56 PM
Or just place your order ASAP in the beginning. I only say that because I ordered on that Friday and asked for weights 176 to 180 of each stamp and 4 of each in blue, orange and red. Guess what I got everything I asked for.

Karma Police
Feb 26 2004, 03:11 PM
Wasn't it a Thursday? :D

widiscgolf
Feb 26 2004, 03:29 PM
Well, I think it was open on the website on Friday, but I believe they were taking orders Thursday and Friday.

scottsearles
Feb 26 2004, 04:20 PM
I placed my order within 15 min. ;) of the "ON FIRE SALE" it was shipped on MON. :cool::D still waiting :( on BROWN to pull up,we are just to FAR away from the rest of you,but Cali. is getting their's so THE N.W. can't be far behind. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif I got 2 GLO'Z & 1 Hole Stamp. GLO'Z to THROW, Hole Stamp for the Wall.

eddie_ogburn
Feb 26 2004, 04:34 PM
Or just place your order ASAP in the beginning. I only say that because I ordered on that Friday and asked for weights 176 to 180 of each stamp and 4 of each in blue, orange and red. Guess what I got everything I asked for.



I ordered mine ASAP... 10 mins after they started taking orders. I ordered 10 discs. They got one right. I guess it doesnt really matter when you order now does it?

widiscgolf
Feb 26 2004, 05:00 PM
Ed:

I don't know. I actually was available when they called me in the morning and I told them what I wanted and gave them my credit card info. I was surprised to see posts here about wrong weights and stamps, etc...

scottsearles
Feb 26 2004, 05:40 PM
:D :cool::D /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Karma is cool "BROWN" just showed up :D:D:D:)
SOOOOOOOOOO SSSSHHAAAAAAWWWEEEEEETTTTTTTT
This is my GLO Order 3 Heavy got 2 Silver 77,80 1 Blue 80
And Blue is already out of the BAG. 1 less MINT COND. GLO in the COLLECTOR'Z WORLD /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

GOTTA GO THROW IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

chris
Feb 26 2004, 06:44 PM
They still haven't even cashed my check yet let along ship my discs out :(

widiscgolf
Feb 26 2004, 06:53 PM
Holy Cow!!! It's Chris Heeren! Shocked to see you talk..your just a quiet guy. So you didn't get your Rocs yet? Well PM if you don't get any, I can hook you up maybe.

eddie_ogburn
Feb 26 2004, 07:30 PM
Looks like he has more posts than you. LOL

chris
Feb 26 2004, 07:47 PM
Holy Cow!! It's JH!! . . . . who's JH?

Karma Police
Feb 26 2004, 07:56 PM
Gees Chris,
You sent them a check??? Who does that anymore? :D

boru
Feb 26 2004, 08:13 PM
Or just place your order ASAP in the beginning. I only say that because I ordered on that Friday and asked for weights 176 to 180 of each stamp and 4 of each in blue, orange and red. Guess what I got everything I asked for.



Hmmm. Are you sure it didn't have anything to do with this?

. . . I do know people at ZD and they hooked me up very well.



My point was that if they're going to have time to sort out all the orders as best they can, we'll have to wait a lot longer for our discs. Anyway, doesn't really matter to me. I got close enough to what I ordered . . . more than 3 hours after they went on sale!

widiscgolf
Feb 26 2004, 10:49 PM
What I meant with that comment was Neil at ZD basically treated me very well. There is no personal connection I have with ZD.

thenatureboy68
Feb 27 2004, 12:33 AM
I got two ce rocs yesterday. I have clear blue and clear red/orange?? with both claws and same 170 grams. I asked for 175 and 180. Anyone who will go to Lewisville Lake Park tomorrow and saturday for texas ten tourney. I want to trade for 175 to 180. Any stamps. My email pager is [email protected] I dont do the mails for trade. I prefer to trade in person. thanks.

scottsearles
Feb 27 2004, 12:52 AM
Well having only the 03 CE ROC'Z to compare with. I would have to say that it seem's almost twice as fast as my 03. I took it out to throw today in 15-20 mph and it did not FLIP but it did get SSSSSSOOOOOOOOOO NICE & FLAT /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif The real TEST will come this SUN. Out in the COLOMBIA RIVER GORGE at The NEWEST Course in the PORTLAND AREA "ROOSTER ROCK" State Park. IMHO $40 is Reasonable for a DISC that will be STABLE a year from now. As my 03 is just starting to :cool: FLIP. Up here we have alot of :eek: LARGE TREE'Z that we /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif try to throw around. $40 buck's is a round of BG & a cart not including DRINK'Z ;) ALL INNOVA ALL THE TIME PLUS SUPPORTING THIS GREAT GAME WE ALL ARE ADDICTED TOO :cool::cool:/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

dannyreeves
Feb 27 2004, 12:52 AM
lol. good luck with that.

Feb 27 2004, 11:18 AM
i dont know if anyone else has said anything but i heard that the glo rocs were only 177-180 and then i got a 174, 176, and 177

xterramatt
Feb 27 2004, 11:36 AM
they were 170-180. the majority were heavy weights.

rocknrog
Feb 27 2004, 02:11 PM
I ordered on mine thursday (the day they went on sale 5 pm), didn't get mine for over 10 days never got an email and didn't get even close to what I asked for. So it had nothing to do when how quickly you got your order in...

I made my donation to USDGC with intent of throwing CE ROC's, now I'm selling all discs I got (too light). Bottom line I still don't have the CE ROC's in the weights I wanted to throw... maybe next year ;0(

Feb 27 2004, 02:25 PM
I'm wit R.O.G on that one.. I support the cause for raising USDGC $ but like any biz you gotta provide good customer service & provide the customer w/what they want or run the risk of losing as much support next year. If you cant provide what the peeps want, we'll find it elsewhere.

gnduke
Feb 27 2004, 02:52 PM
Well if any of your light ROCs were white pearl with a blue hole 5 stamp, let me know, and we can get you a heavy ROC.

Feb 27 2004, 03:12 PM
If you cant provide what the peeps want, we'll find it elsewhere.



Good luck finding CE Rocs at a reasonable price elsewhere.

dannyreeves
Feb 27 2004, 03:12 PM
If you cant provide what the peeps want, we'll find it elsewhere.



Good luck finding CE Rocs at a reasonable price elsewhere.



Z-Wasp

Feb 27 2004, 03:13 PM
Notorious ROG, if you check the postings on this thread and the Traders Row thread you will see that there are many that will be willing to trade their heavier rocs for your lighter ones.

Feb 27 2004, 03:33 PM
If you cant provide what the peeps want, we'll find it elsewhere.



Good luck finding CE Rocs at a reasonable price elsewhere.



Z-Wasp


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Who said anything about a reasonable price? Its the nature of the biz. As a consumer if you dont get what you want 1x are you gonna buy a 2nd x.. I'm not.. & in comparison to the 01 & even my favorite the 02.. these Rocs are far from golden

girlie
Feb 27 2004, 03:40 PM
Looking to Trade

I have 2 2004 USDGC CE Glo Rocs

176g with blue stamp
178g with red stamp

Looking for 170 or 171g glo with any color stamp - please PM me if you have a trade. Thanks. :)

Feb 27 2004, 06:43 PM
If you cant provide what the peeps want, we'll find it elsewhere.



Good luck finding CE Rocs at a reasonable price elsewhere.



Z-Wasp



Hardly. The Z-wasp's profile is flatter, the bead is taller, and the bevel on the underside of the rim is flatter, yielding a faster, more overstable flight. It also requires noticably more power to hold a line.

Is the Z-wasp similar to a CE Roc? Yes. is it an acceptable substitute? Perhaps for you, but not for me.

mugilcephalus
Feb 27 2004, 07:05 PM
Bad arrows Felix?

Feb 27 2004, 10:08 PM
Bad arrows Felix?



Didn't say that, Mullet. WRONG arrows for THIS archer. A quarrel may be effective if you're shooting a crossbow, but its useless if you're shooting a longbow.

tdwriter
Feb 27 2004, 11:04 PM
<font color="red">ARRGH!! Doesn't anyone out there have a lighter (174-177) 2004 Glow CE Roc they want to trade for one of my max weight glows?? Please, I'm dying here!
Russ3523 </font> :cool:

chris
Feb 27 2004, 11:54 PM
I just finally got mine today! There all real light, 168-169's I guess that's what you get for sending them a check and not paying right away

junnila
Feb 28 2004, 01:04 PM
weight schmeight...who really cares, put a little more hyzer on em :eek:

Feb 28 2004, 03:09 PM
Russ, I'll keep my eyes open for ya'.

Felix, I saw a pink o4 CE Roc on EBay, but I know that probably doesn't help you mucho. Have you called Rick B.? I will call him and one other person I know who has a stack of 'em. I PM'ed you my phone #, so gimme a call in a couple days and I'll let you know what I find out. :cool:

mmaclay
Feb 29 2004, 10:53 AM
I was out throwing my 04, 171g champ pearl roc yesterday and it is not near as overstable as I thought. It also is a lot faster than i thought. It seems to fly a lot like my Buzz only doesn't come back as hard at the end and goes farther. We have a hole that is 351 feet (figured using a rangefinder) and I threw the roc 330 at least pretty much on a line. I've never been able to do that but maybe I was all pumped up to be finally throwing it. I hope the heavier CE Roc I'm trading my other disc for will be a bit more overstable. Anyone else noticing these things seem faster this year?

Karma Police
Feb 29 2004, 12:12 PM
yup, they do seem faster. My 180 is a lot more stable than my 2002 too also. Very good disc I think. Innova did a great job.

Feb 29 2004, 07:39 PM
Ive been throwing a 177 roc and loving it. Its much faster than I could have expected and Ive been getting some frozen ropes with it. Im glad all of this waiting and hype have been worth it.

Feb 29 2004, 10:18 PM
Yes my 170g pearl is a straight flyer with my 179g glow being stable. These CE rocs are alot faster than 02 and 03.

widiscgolf
Mar 01 2004, 12:20 PM
Gary:

Thank you again for the trade! The disc is beautiful!

Josh
discgolf

Chris Hysell
Mar 01 2004, 12:23 PM
I have been allowing players to make the trade since I had higher weights and won't be throwing them anyway. Now my weights are lower so if someone wants lower weights, I have them.

gnduke
Mar 01 2004, 12:54 PM
I want to trade, don't care about the weight, just the color and stamp.

esalazar
Mar 01 2004, 02:09 PM
what do you need gary, i'm in the same boat...

girlie
Mar 01 2004, 02:14 PM
I still want to trade for a 170 or 171 CE GLO... anyone? anyone? :cool:

I have a 176 and a 178 :D

Ppplllllease! I really want to throw this baby ;)

Chris Hysell
Mar 01 2004, 02:17 PM
Someone please help Lindsay. I had an unopened box of CE Rocs and asked her if she would like to open them. She tore through that cardboard in about a half second. I saw her eyes glowing red. So please help her before she unleashes her full fury.

gnduke
Mar 01 2004, 02:50 PM
what do you need gary, i'm in the same boat...


I am in search of a white pearl CE ROC with a BLUE Hole 5 stamp.
I have MaxWeight and near Max weights in most other stamps for trade.

Mar 01 2004, 04:44 PM
I'm looking for a 2004 CE Roc, weight 175-177g, preferably with the ring of rocs stamp.

Would be willing to trade or buy.

Email me at [email protected]

haroldduvall
Mar 02 2004, 12:30 AM
Dear Russ -

I reviewed all the remaining Glows. I found one 178 gram with a black hotstamp that is just above your desired weight range.

I also found three 176 gram Glows in the X part box. These should fly just fine, but since they are not packaged and do not include the autographed collector card, the price is $25. I believe that this was the same price for last year's x-parts. Please let me know if you are interested.

Take care,

Harold

tafe
Mar 02 2004, 11:52 AM
X-outs? What's this about X-outs?!? :eek: When and where? Thanks.

widiscgolf
Mar 02 2004, 01:46 PM
Guys check out this custom dyed CE 2004 ROC that we did yesterday. Looks so sweet!! MK-DYE 2004 CE ROC (http://widiscgolf.com/mkdye/cemkdyeroc.jpg)