And we're back...

Registration is now open for both Professionals (http://www.pdgasignup.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=1256936430) and Amateurs (http://www.pdgasignup.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=1256952120)! Some changes have been made and below are the highlights, details can be found at www.MemorialChampionship.com (http://www.memorialchampionship.com/).



Four Days for Pros
Increased Pro entry fee
Pro field limit 180
Rules Proficiency Exam for Pros
New scoring tents for Pros and Ams


We will be updating the website (http://www.memorialchampionship.com/), our Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fountain-Hills-and-Scottsdale-AZ/The-Memorial-Championship-presented-by-Discraft/304663480410?v=wall#/pages/Fountain-Hills-and-Scottsdale-AZ/The-Memorial-Championship-presented-by-Discraft/304663480410) page and this thread as we move along. Become a fan on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fountain-Hills-and-Scottsdale-AZ/The-Memorial-Championship-presented-by-Discraft/304663480410?v=wall#/pages/Fountain-Hills-and-Scottsdale-AZ/The-Memorial-Championship-presented-by-Discraft/304663480410) for the quickest way to receive updates. There are already 18 Pros and 16 Ams signed up so if you want to play then get in early!!!

The Current registration list is now up on the schedule page for Pros (http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=9642#Open) and Ams (http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=9697)! Sign ups are really coming in fast and we may fill up earlier than 2009. As of today we have almost 15% more registrations than we did at this time last year. All I can say is get in quick!

Added players and updated PDGA.com so we are now at 43 for the NT and 31 for the A-tier! They keep rolling in so don't delay if you want to play!!! Fund raisers with the awesome Coy Matthews Roadrunner artwork will be out soon so keep your eyes peeled.

We are happy to have the 3 Palms return as our Scottsdale host hotel in 2010. Please call 1-800-450-8133 and be sure to tell them you are with the Memorial Championship to receive 25% OFF their normal rate (based on availability).

Info for Fountain Hills lodging coming soon.

After updating today we have 73 signed up for the NT and 54 for the A-tier. Only 17 spots away from being half full on the National Tour side...get your entries in ASAP!

What's up with your website (http://www.memorialchampionship.com/). I am getting DNS errors when I try to load it.

The hosting service is having major problems and my webmaster is just waiting for tech support to get back with him. Hopefully everything will be back to normal shortly.

Can you post the schedule on here? I have been waiting on the website but it is still down and I'm looking to book travel and make housing arrangements.

Sure thing Jerry...

Tuesday, March 2nd: Pro Check-in
Wednesday, March 3rd: Pro round 1 (Ft. Hills), Am Check-in
Thursday, March 4th: Pro round 2 (Vista), Am round 1 (Ft. Hills)
Friday, March 5th: Pro round 3 (Ft. Hills), Am round 2 (Vista)
Saturday, March 6th: Pro round 4 (Vista), Am round 3 (Ft. Hills)

Flymart - March 3rd
Awards Ceremony - March 6th

There will be some other fun activities that are still being ironed out, more on that to come.

You can also Fan us on Facebook below for current updates and information. The 3 Palms Hotel here in Scottsdale are on board again and I should have a Fountain Hills lodging option by the beginning of next week.

Sure thing Jerry...

Tuesday, March 2nd: Pro Check-in
Wednesday, March 3rd: Pro round 1 (Ft. Hills), Am Check-in
Thursday, March 4th: Pro round 2 (Vista), Am round 1 (Ft. Hills)
Friday, March 5th: Pro round 3 (Ft. Hills), Am round 2 (Vista)
Saturday, March 6th: Pro round 4 (Vista), Am round 3 (Ft. Hills)

Flymart - March 3rd
Awards Ceremony - March 6th

There will be some other fun activities that are still being ironed out, more on that to come.

You can also Fan us on Facebook below for current updates and information. The 3 Palms Hotel here in Scottsdale are on board again and I should have a Fountain Hills lodging option by the beginning of next week.
Thanks!

WOW 2 rounds at Fountain Hills ... I better bring my floaters.

While the website is down I have added the course maps to our Facebook page under the photos tab.

Printable entry forms have also been added to the photos tab on Facebook.

After today's upload only 66 spots left on the NT side. Still plenty of room for Am's but don't delay!

Still trying to make headway with the people that host the site. Thought it would be up and running on Wednesday but that didn't happen. Trying to set something new up but the holidays are throwing a bit of a wrench in that. For now look for updates here and our Facebook page and thanks for understanding!

do you know yet if the course's layouts will be similar to last year's?

merry christmas

do you know yet if the course's layouts will be similar to last year's?

merry christmas

Happy Holidays to you too Cholly!

The courses will be the same and course maps are already posted on MemorialChampionship.com (http://www.memorialchampionship.com) and Facebook!

There is a temporary page up now for MemorialChampionship.com and it has the basic information listed. We are still working on getting the original site back up and running.

We are down to only 38 spots left on the Pro side. The Am side is halfway full. The way they are coming in I may be full on the NT by years end and about mid to late January for Ams!

I have been wanting to play this event since I was only 15 but EVERY year it is the week before my spring break which means midterms and NO Memorial. I'd actually drop worlds for this tournament if I could but probably won't happen until I finish my degree.

Hurry up and graduate! :)

Make that 34 spots left now!

If I go ahead and sign up so I secure a spot. If I have to cancel, at what date can I get my money back>?

If I go ahead and sign up so I secure a spot. If I have to cancel, at what date can I get my money back>?

Hello,

If you need to drop and do so before 2/16/10 then you would be refunded fully. From 2/16/10 through 2/22/10 you could drop and receive a 50% refund. If you cancel after 2/23/10 then you would receive a players package.

I'm looking to split a Hotel for the week, or if a local has a extra room and wants some cash. Let me Know, I'm trying to make my plans solid ASAP. jamesblanchard7@gmail, (205) 240-1451. Thanks, James.

BREAKING NEWS!!! As of Monday, 12/28, the online registration has been closed for the Pro side of the 2010 Memorial Championship presented by Discraft! There are 170 confirmed registrations and now we go to mail-in only. There are ten spots for the first Touring Pro Card Holders to sign up who are not currently in and we'll start the wait list for everyone else. You MUST send in your entry to be placed on the wait list.

Check out Spinnersdiscgolf.com (http://www.spinnersdiscgolf.com/mcdiscs.html) for some great 2010 Memorial Championship fund raisers! SuperColor discs and awesome New Belgium label ColorMaxes. Limited quantities available and all proceeds go right to the event so don't delay, get yours today!!!

How realistic is it that someone gets in from the waiting list? Holla

How realistic is it that someone gets in from the waiting list? Holla

Hey Chris,

There is always the chance! Can't remember exactly how many got in this year but it was probably around 10-12. Send it in asap and we'll try our best!

Happy New Year!!! Now that the holidays are over we are back to business. The wait list has been started and we are waiting on the PDGA to send us the list of Touring Pro card holders for 2010. Once we have that we'll start squeezing in who we can! Am side is filling up fast now so get in while you can!!!

Are you guys still planning on replacing non-current pdga members on Jan 15th? There are quite a few players this would affect. How many on the wait list?

Hey Cholly,

We won't be moving anybody on the 15th. That is the deadline to renew with the PDGA and it takes them a few days to update so it would be sometime during the week after. The wait list is still in limbo waiting for the PDGA to provide the Touring Pro Card holder list which we should have by the middle of next week at the latest.

Oh yeah, the Am side is now full too! Wait list will run the same as the Pro side so send in your entry and check to be placed on it.

Thanks for the Heads up on the bump in registration for not being current, I cannot wait to be apart of this great event this year.

I know that players competing in the NT are required to take the exam. Are players competing in the A-tier required to take the exam? Just curious after seeing the check marks showing who's passed so far.

I know that players competing in the NT are required to take the exam. Are players competing in the A-tier required to take the exam? Just curious after seeing the check marks showing who's passed so far.

That test is only for the National Tour side.

Just wanted to let everyone know that I just put Dan's Proto Nuke tester on Ebay. All proceeds will go right to the event and you are getting a sweet driver! Check it out here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290393682455).

The Memorial Championship presented by Discraft is very pleased to be apart of a live Disc Golf internet broadcast by Discgolfplanet.tv! Please sign up and watch this amazing event live from beautiful Fountain Hills, AZ. If you watched any of the USDGC coverage you know you will want to see this!!! For more information and to register please click here (http://www.todocast.tv/pdga/memorial/).

Keith;

Do you know if the FH Thrills layout for Sunday will be the Memorial layout? I was told that is what was done last year and I understand that you are not the TD of the thrills, just thought you might have some insight.

Keith;

Do you know if the FH Thrills layout for Sunday will be the Memorial layout? I was told that is what was done last year and I understand that you are not the TD of the thrills, just thought you might have some insight.

TD of the Thrills is Jeff Burns, not Keith.

TD of the Thrills is Jeff Burns, not Keith.

That is why I specifically stated that in my post

That is why I specifically stated that in my post

duh, my bad. I misread your post.

Keith;

Do you know if the FH Thrills layout for Sunday will be the Memorial layout? I was told that is what was done last year and I understand that you are not the TD of the thrills, just thought you might have some insight.

Not sure but that is how it's been the last few years. You would want to contact Jeff to confirm.

Will there be tee times like a ball golf tourney or flights of shotgun starts? Trying to plan to attend some spring training games and get a hike in a camelback and would like to know when I'll be playing ahead of time (if possible).

Everyday will be tee times and I should have those posted soon.

Everyday will be tee times and I should have those posted soon.

Thanks Kieth! Looking forward to getting back to my old stomping grounds!

Hey there Keith, just wondering how many are on the waiting list on the NT side and how I would go about getting on that list. Gracias

Hey there Keith, just wondering how many are on the waiting list on the NT side and how I would go about getting on that list. Gracias

I was able to clear out all the Open players on the list so no one is on there now. We do have a few Masters and Grand Masters waiting for folks to drop. If you would like to be placed on the wait list you can find all the info you need here (http://memorialchampionship.com/waitlist.html).

One of our roomies dropped out of 3 palms. Anyone interested on taking the couch in a suite with bunch of guys? Wed-sat nights

So are more than 180 players playing?
If so, it seems that the list is already
8 players.

Thanks

I too am confused. Are you allowing more than 180 players? As of now, 188 are registered. Are those 8 others on a waiting list? Thanks for your prompt reply. I'm trying to figure out if this tourney is possible for me or not. Need to make plans soon.

The 188 listed are registered to play. We don't post the wait list to the registration list at all. We had some wiggle room and increased it. We are maxed out so now you would have to send in your registration and check to be placed on the wait list and see if someone drops out.

Gotcha. So is anyone on the wait list now, or will I be the first provided I get my check to you before anyone else?

If you want to play in the Open division then you would be first on the list, so long as I don't receive another entry post marked before yours.

thanks, check is in the mail

Am tee times are up and the Pro's will be following soon!

Am tee times are up and the Pro's will be following soon!

FYI ... Here's a link.
http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=9697

Also, will these be adjusted each day or consistent throughout?

You will of course move up and down depending on score but the range of times won't change. Advanced will play in the afternoon everyday and Advanced GM's will play in the morning everyday.

Looks like Fountain Park will stay in the Memorial Championship layout from now until tournament time. O.B. lines will be painted weekly but the 10m lines won't be re-painted until we get a little closer. Vista del Camino should be set up in the Vista XL layout in the next couple of weeks.

You will of course move up and down depending on score but the range of times won't change. Advanced will play in the afternoon everyday and Advanced GM's will play in the morning everyday.

DANG ... No spring training games :(

DANG ... No spring training games :(

Check that ... Wednesday is an option. :)

Check that ... Wednesday is an option. :)

Only problem with Wednesday's Spring Training schedule (http://www.springtrainingonline.com/features/master-schedule-cactus.htm) is that there is only one game: SF at SEA. But you could probably go watch your favorite team doing fundamental drills.

Mu favorite team (cards) on in Florida so I am just looking ti enjoy the "scenery" and have a few pops!

Looks like Fountain Park will stay in the Memorial Championship layout from now until tournament time. O.B. lines will be painted weekly but the 10m lines won't be re-painted until we get a little closer. Vista del Camino should be set up in the Vista XL layout in the next couple of weeks.

is there a map showing the ob lines on fountain park?

You will of course move up and down depending on score but the range of times won't change. Advanced will play in the afternoon everyday and Advanced GM's will play in the morning everyday.

Geez...why don't you let us old guys sleep in?!?!

cause you old guys are not at Duke's till 2am!

All the reason you should be punished for such behavior!!!! :D

Geez...why don't you let us old guys sleep in?!?!

If I remember correctly the reason is so that the GM's are all done in time to get the 3:00 PM early bird special at the local buffet and then its off to bed by 7:00 PM :p.

Yea Jerry, sure thing.

is there a map showing the ob lines on fountain park?

Not that I'm aware of, the map just shows the layout. The Caddie Books and tee signs will have it marked and the Caddie Books should be printable online shortly.

Geez...why don't you let us old guys sleep in?!?!

You guys are already up for a few hours by then aren't ya??? :)

nvm

Luke, I can probably help out if you don't find anyone else. Jeff J. has my number, give me a call and we'll try to work something out.

Rory

Hey Keith when should we expect Pro tee times?

Keith,

Any ETA on the caddy book?

Thanks,
Jordan

I am flying to Phoenix and I will not have a car. I do have friends who will have one, but they are in the way early groups. I am staying near Vista, playing advanced am, teeing off in the last group on Thursday, and I need to get to Fountain Hills (but not at the buttcrack of dawn). Anyone?

Thanks,
Jordan

Hey Keith when should we expect Pro tee times?

Pro tee times are up!

Keith,

Any ETA on the caddy book?

Thanks,
Jordan

Still making some final adjustments but I am hoping it will be up sometime next week.

Pro tee times are up!

Scratch that...still a couple of things to iron out.

Keith that is being a Tease, So i guess we can expect it soon.

I am flying to Phoenix and I will not have a car. I do have friends who will have one, but they are in the way early groups. I am staying near Vista, playing advanced am, teeing off in the last group on Thursday, and I need to get to Fountain Hills (but not at the buttcrack of dawn). Anyone?

Thanks,
Jordan

Jordan;

I am in one of the later tee times as well and should be able to help find a ride for you or vice versa if you get a response first. Send me a pm.

Canonico

Yeah!

It looks like i'm flying to Scottsdale to play with Joe Mela

Pro tee times are now up!

Somehow I am playing in the second to last tee time on Thursday with my good buddy Dave Roper...a fitting situation being that he was instrumental in my comeback from my twice broken arm. I don't know if we just lucked out with the draw, but it is appreciated, thanks to Memorial staff. Been waiting to play THIS tournament for 18 months...

The 6 Deaf Amateur guys will have 2-3 cars and we all tee off after 12:58 on thursday so if any one needs a ride, we'll be staying at 3 palms and leaving for Fountain Hills around 11:30. We still also have one space open in our room since one of our guys staying with his friend nearby...

We will also have the Memorial Championship shuttle running again this year starting Tuesday, March 2nd! We will be running folks from Vista to Fountain and everywhere in between.

We will also have the Memorial Championship shuttle running again this year starting Tuesday, March 2nd! We will be running folks from Vista to Fountain and everywhere in between.

This is the first I have ever heard of a shuttle... I had a few friends who had to catch a cab for like $40 to get to Fountain Hills last year...

me too. Care to elaborate a little on the shuttle? Where is leaves from? Frequency?
thanks

We will also have the Memorial Championship shuttle running again this year starting Tuesday, March 2nd! We will be running folks from Vista to Fountain and everywhere in between.

The shuttle should be extremely helpful this year since the rental car prices are through the roof!

It worked out well last year so we are going ahead with it for 2010. The phone number for the driver is listed in the program and all you do is call and he comes and picks you up.

Sweet- I might need a ride to this Fountain Hills Place. Somebody make sure I'm there by 8:18 please. I will be the extremely limey white buffalo chick hanging out in front of the three palms in pigtails. Odds are good I'm wearing pink.

The shuttle should be extremely helpful this year since the rental car prices are through the roof!

I noticed that. I'm renting a car for 4 days in SC for $80 and 8 days in Phoenix is $430. That's a huge difference.

I noticed that. I'm renting a car for 4 days in SC for $80 and 8 days in Phoenix is $430. That's a huge difference.

Pretty sure the fact that Spring Training is going on has a little to do with that price jump.

Pretty sure the fact that Spring Training is going on has a little to do with that price jump.

Probably has something to do with it - but in past years the tournament has synced up with Spring Training too, and it wasn't this extreme.

I'll be in Tucson on Tuesday morning and wanted to play a round before heading up to the Memorial. Anyone want to chime in on what course to play there?

I'll be in Tucson on Tuesday morning and wanted to play a round before heading up to the Memorial. Anyone want to chime in on what course to play there?

Santa Cruz River Park or the Rock in Marana.

caddy book this year?

caddy book this year?

It will be posted on www.memorialchampionship.com (http://www.memorialchampionship.com) this week.

Keith,

My flights lands after checking time on Tuesday, as I am traveling beforehand. Do I need to do anything special to verify my arrival and tee time for Wed am?

The 6 Deaf Amateur guys will have 2-3 cars and we all tee off after 12:58 on thursday so if any one needs a ride, we'll be staying at 3 palms and leaving for Fountain Hills around 11:30. We still also have one space open in our room since one of our guys staying with his friend nearby...

My girlfriend and I are caddying for a friend and our tee time is at 12:10 at Fountain Hills. She was wondering if she could meet with "The 6 Deaf Amateur guys" for her American Sign Language class. She is kind of slow at it but she knows enough and part of one of her assignments is to have a social interaction with a Deaf person. Seeming how we're all disc golfers it sounds like a fun meeting. Thanks

Ok there are going to be painted OB lines at FH, but what about VDC? Are there going to be any OB ropes or painted lines at VDC? Thanks

when this week can we expect the caddy books?

My girlfriend and I are caddying for a friend and our tee time is at 12:10 at Fountain Hills. She was wondering if she could meet with "The 6 Deaf Amateur guys" for her American Sign Language class. She is kind of slow at it but she knows enough and part of one of her assignments is to have a social interaction with a Deaf person. Seeming how we're all disc golfers it sounds like a fun meeting. Thanks

You can't miss us... we are definitely approachable and there to have a great time, look forward to chatting it up with everyone! It's the memorial, smiles all around!

You can't miss us... we are definitely approachable and there to have a great time, look forward to chatting it up with everyone! It's the memorial, smiles all around!

Awesome! We've never been to The Memorial so we are really excited to make the trip. Can't wait to meet everybody!

Keith,

My flights lands after checking time on Tuesday, as I am traveling beforehand. Do I need to do anything special to verify my arrival and tee time for Wed am?

Mine too - can I have a friend check in for me?

Matt

Ok there are going to be painted OB lines at FH, but what about VDC? Are there going to be any OB ropes or painted lines at VDC? Thanks

Yes, there will be painted lines at Vista too. Think the caddy books are done, I'll double check and if so post them online.

Keith,

My flights lands after checking time on Tuesday, as I am traveling beforehand. Do I need to do anything special to verify my arrival and tee time for Wed am?

Just make sure to show up at the sales tent to check-in and get your players package at least an hour before your tee time.

Just make sure to show up at the sales tent to check-in and get your players package at least an hour before your tee time.

Is someone going to be at Fountain Hills at 6:30 AM if I follow your advice? :)

It only takes me 15 minutes to warm up, so if I can sleep at the hotel after getting Lorelei and Dawn on a plane to go home at Midnite instead of in the car at the course, it would be nice. :)

Someone will be out there between 6:30-7:00, but just give yourself enough time to pick up your package and get it to your car and you'll be fine.

You can print the caddie book by clicking here (http://memorialchampionship.com/2010_memorial_caddie_book_print.pdf). Everyone will also receive one during check-in.

Someone will be out there between 6:30-7:00, but just give yourself enough time to pick up your package and get it to your car and you'll be fine.

That'll take all of about 2 minutes even parking in the shopping center. :)

A much longer Vista Del Camino??? COOOOOLLLL.. bring on the challenge!

Is hole 3 at Fountain Hills an elevated basket? The caddy book makes it look like it is. If so, how tall is it? Any reason for the change?

I'm pretty sure Fountain Hills is exactly the same as last year cuz both caddy books are identical. Hole 3 is a short hole with ob being the 30 foot circle around it, just the caddy book makes it look more squarey...

They had an elevated basket at hole 3 for the Fountain Hills Thrills last month. My guess is that it was maybe 10 feet to the top of the basket. Don't know if they plan to use it next week.

I am fairly certain that they will be using the elevated basket for both hole 3 at Fountain Hills and hole 5 at Vista. It is about 6' 2" to the bottom of the tray.

the tournament artwork is outstanding. the creativity displayed is a true inspiration to the entire organization.

Trying to go out to Arizona early as I have the whole week off. I have a hotel with my buddy starting Wednesday night but would like to rest Wednesday instead of playing and get my practice in on Monday and Tuesday, so I can let the arm rest. Anyone got any space anywhere for Monday and Tuesday night? Floor space is good enough, i'll pitch in on expenses and party materials.

Yo,beanie man. I'll be staying in Mesa tues night and you can chill. Won't be there till 9pm though.
If you havent found a place holla.

Is there any reason to use the "Circus Baskets" at a National Tour Event! It seems that those should be saved for the gimicy events like Worlds Biggest or Ice Bowl not the premier national tour event that the memorial strives to be, and in my eye, is.

Is there any reason to use the "Circus Baskets" at a National Tour Event! It seems that those should be saved for the gimicy events like Worlds Biggest or Ice Bowl not the premier national tour event that the memorial strives to be, and in my eye, is.Our premiere event uses a hole with a man-made triple mando called "The Clown's Mouth." The Memorial is just trying to keep up. :D

I think that we ought to get rid of the word "should" in the Official Rules of Disc Golf and the Competition Manual, because it is becoming more and more obvious that when that word is used, what comes after it really doesn't mean anything.

Case in point, Section 1.6B of the Competition Manual, which gives two ways that "All players within a division for the first round should [my italics] be grouped via two methods", neither of which is being used for the first round of the Memorial, unless you believe that having Climo, LoCastro and Jenkins in the same group happened by random grouping.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the importance of having a strong, big-name group for the televised round, but I am just growing weary of seeing PDGA guidelines and rules being ignored, or at the very least, selectively ignored (the other groups may have been randomly selected, for example).

I hesitated in posting this, because I do not want anyone to think that I am trying to bash the TD or the tournament because of this grouping. Even if the wording is changed in the future to restrict first round groupings to certain formats, the TD could always request a waiver, and I am sure, for cases such as this, it would be granted.

I am just really looking forward to the next revision of the Official Rules of Disc Golf and the Competition Manual, so that it is more difficult for someone, be he or she a player, caddie, official, TD, etc., to ignore what the PDGA would obviously prefer they do, by striking that word from both documents.

No more wishy-washy, no more "It doesn't say we have to!". I know we will never get there, but is it too much to ask to try and get closer to that goal?

Bruce- more fun is always the way to go! Will there be a duck pond at the fly mart?

Bill,

Someone posts the same comments every year at this tourney(and others). Nothing will change.
I also see a few players haven't passed the rules test yet, based on the registration list.
I'm curious to see if anything happens with that.

There are rules, then there are rules.

I think that we ought to get rid of the word "should" in the Official Rules of Disc Golf and the Competition Manual, because it is becoming more and more obvious that when that word is used, what comes after it really doesn't mean anything.

Case in point, Section 1.6B of the Competition Manual, which gives two ways that "All players within a division for the first round should [my italics] be grouped via two methods", neither of which is being used for the first round of the Memorial, unless you believe that having Climo, LoCastro and Jenkins in the same group happened by random grouping.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the importance of having a strong, big-name group for the televised round, but I am just growing weary of seeing PDGA guidelines and rules being ignored, or at the very least, selectively ignored (the other groups may have been randomly selected, for example).

I hesitated in posting this, because I do not want anyone to think that I am trying to bash the TD or the tournament because of this grouping. Even if the wording is changed in the future to restrict first round groupings to certain formats, the TD could always request a waiver, and I am sure, for cases such as this, it would be granted.

I am just really looking forward to the next revision of the Official Rules of Disc Golf and the Competition Manual, so that it is more difficult for someone, be he or she a player, caddie, official, TD, etc., to ignore what the PDGA would obviously prefer they do, by striking that word from both documents.

No more wishy-washy, no more "It doesn't say we have to!". I know we will never get there, but is it too much to ask to try and get closer to that goal?


The tournament requested a waiver from PDGA Tour Manager David Gentry and he granted it. It does not matter how strictly the rules are written, the PDGA Tour Manager always has the authority to grant a waiver.

and that s cool, But as one who will not be there but watching online, I would love to watch some up and coming no namer play with the big dogs, this will not deter me from playing. I dont think the Big dogs should be treated so priviliged....I hope to be there soon and I would want to play like every body else.

Contest 6:

Winner gets a set of 12 Gateway discs, a Gateway Tour bag, and a few other goodies Inculding some of the first RUN NINJAS ( value $300.00)



Pick the top 4 finishers in the 1st National Tour of the 2010 season at the Memorial In Pheonix.

1 entry per person:

To win you must pick the top 4 finishers in the correct order.

Please include the total score for all holes played as the tie breaker in case someone chooses the same 4 players.

PLEASE LIST ANSWERS IN COMMENTS SECTION OF THIS BLOG:

http://gdstour.com/blog/

OR email them to david@gdstour.com



Good Luck!

Heres the Video of the winning PUTT last year at this tournament:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRGnxjPbtfs

it is my understanding that the usdgc and worlds champ play on the last card together with 2 other hand picked players... good way to start the year...

I don't see a problem with seeding at majors (which this event is becoming) and NT's, as long as its done throughout the entire field.

The best thing to do would be ask the pro players if its what they want.

I always see non top pros making decisions and statements about "how things should be done for them.

Its a shame more top players don't use this discussion board to share their opinions on how they would like to see the PRO TOUR ran.

I have a really good idea;
Start a thread that will only allow 1000 rated players and above to post.
Better yet allow the 1000 rated and above players to be able to post anonymously if they choose.

I don't see a problem with seeding at majors (which this event is becoming) and NT's, as long as its done throughout the entire field.

The best thing to do would be ask the pro players if its what they want.

I always see non top pros making decisions and statements about "how things should be done for them.

Its a shame more top players don't use this discussion board to share their opinions on how they would like to see the PRO TOUR ran.

I have a really good idea;
Start a thread that will only allow 1000 rated players and above to post.
Better yet allow the 1000 rated and above players to be able to post anonymously if they choose.

Yeah too bad there are only like 4 1000 rated guys who EVER post on here.....

I'm pulling for Nikko to take home the title again and also wanting Brad to represent Texas well with a top ten finish.

I don't see a problem with seeding at majors (which this event is becoming) and NT's, as long as its done throughout the entire field.

The best thing to do would be ask the pro players if its what they want.

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All of them who I've talked to are against making 1 super group and randomly grouping the rest of the field.

Yes and I talk so top rated pros and havent met any yet who like this idea either. It sounds more like a "corporate" decision some Td or TV guy is making thinking thats what "we" the people want.....why not take a poll on the discussion what people think.
And people are asking the top pros what they think Dave, its them that dont take the time to post.....everyone knows where the discussion is.

Nikko or Barry for the Memorial this year,
I would love to See McCabe get it though....

All of them who I've talked to are against making 1 super group and randomly grouping the rest of the field.

As they should be, but do they have any say?
Should they?

The tournament requested a waiver from PDGA Tour Manager David Gentry and he granted it. It does not matter how strictly the rules are written, the PDGA Tour Manager always has the authority to grant a waiver.

Outstanding. That it the way it should work.

I have a really good idea;
Start a thread that will only allow 1000 rated players and above to post.
Better yet allow the 1000 rated and above players to be able to post anonymously if they choose.

Dave, why is that such a good idea? Just because they play better than other members do you think their opinions are worth more than <1000 rated players?

Should we have a special place only TDs can post? I think TDs do more for the sport than most >1000 rated players do.

What about AMs only? After all there are way more AMs in the organization than there are Pros. And way more 950 rated pros than >1000 rated ones. Should they get their own posting place?

I'm not trying to bust your chops Dave. I just don't understand why you think that is such a good idea.

Dave, why is that such a good idea? Just because they play better than other members do you think their opinions are worth more than <1000 rated players?

Should we have a special place only TDs can post? I think TDs do more for the sport than most >1000 rated players do.

What about AMs only? After all there are way more AMs in the organization than there are Pros. And way more 950 rated pros than >1000 rated ones. Should they get their own posting place?

I'm not trying to bust your chops Dave. I just don't understand why you think that is such a good idea.

What 1000 rated players really need is their own organization, apart from the PDGA that can represent their interests. Think of it as a players union.

While Dave's ideas are not that bad, because anyone can pay the same amount as a top player to be part of this organization, I would vote against any proposal that puts an emphasis on ratings to allow special privileges.

As they should be, but do they have any say?
Should they?

The should have as much say as those top tier players. What the TD does in terms of waivers is one thing. But if Pro 1 is rated 970 and Pro 2 is rated 1030, their opinion should have the same weight, since they both paid the same amount to play in the event. Whether or not this happens in practice, I don't know (I would seriously doubt it).

Outstanding. That it the way it should work.

The way I read the document, the event did not need to get a waiver to customize first round groupings, because of the word "should". It was nice that they asked, though.

no scores yet? the 7:30 group should be done right?

The way I read the document, the event did not need to get a waiver to customize first round groupings, because of the word "should". It was nice that they asked, though.

Bill I must disagree. Using that logic I don't need to be quiet and still when othes throw, I don't need to help them look for their discs, I can smoke cigarettes and blow smoke in others faces, its OK to group pros and ams together, etc. All of these say SHOULD.

re you equally OK with all these?

and what about distance contest? and putting? can we see results?

Nikko and Paul just birdie a long par 4 4th to go two under......here we go.

Outstanding. That it the way it should work.

Bill I must disagree. Using that logic I don't need to be quiet and still when othes throw, I don't need to help them look for their discs, I can smoke cigarettes and blow smoke in others faces, its OK to group pros and ams together, etc. All of these say SHOULD.

re you equally OK with all these?

There is a difference between should and should not.

The 4-5 hour live broadcast quickly became just over 3. Do we get a refund for the unfulfilled time slot?
Hurried home to watch the final holes and got a blank screen.
Boooo.

scores?

seriously, huge NT and scores take foreverrrr :(

i think the broadcast went well. sure there's room to improve but it was enjoyable to watch.

N.C. C Tiers have scores up quicker than this. whats the deal??

Dave, why is that such a good idea? Just because they play better than other members do you think their opinions are worth more than <1000 rated players?


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Not so much about there caliber of play but I feel only those in mens open Pro should be making decisions on the who's, hows and whats,,of mens open pro.
(not necessary the wheres as in "WE NEED A GEOGRAPHICAL AND CHRONOLOGICAL TOUR").
or should at least be polled!!!
I guess 990 is "CASHING PRO", but I'm like 980 and only play a few events a year.
In my opinion I shouldn't be labeled a pro. I haven't even practiced putting in like 7 years.
While I'll admit a lot of players would love to be 980, I dont consider myself a pro who should be making decision on the tour since I'm not on tour.

So my thinking was if you're not 1000 rated than maybe your not a touring pro who should make touring pro decisions.

On the other hand,,,, maybe an up and coming 980 player that is on tour should have a say. The point is I don't think enough of the top players are putting in the effort to shape the tour and they should.
If its 950 and above so be it,, the point was maybe there could be a place on this discussion board for the "potentially" touring players to voice their opinions anonymously.




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Should we have a special place only TDs can post? I think TDs do more for the sport than most >1000 rated players do.

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Absolutley,,,there should be TD summits or at least thread for "JUST TD's",,,Again allowing anonymous posting, which ( nin my opinion) could help get more TD's to say whats on their minds without personal ramifications.


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What about AMs only? After all there are way more AMs in the organization than there are Pros.

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as long as the people making decisions for ams are qualified and hopefully either elected or hired.

I get the counter-point,,,,, an 840 player for life might just have all the answers while a 1020 guy may only be able to PLAY disc golf with no social or business skills at all.


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I'm not trying to bust your chops Dave. I just don't understand why you think that is such a good idea.

>>>>>>>>>>
Well hopefully this clears up my statement a bit or at least gets people talking about direction for the future of both the PRO TOUR and AMATEUR DISC GOLF COMPETITIONS.

Who's winning the event,, or should I say leading?

Are the results posted somewhere?

I wanna make some new odds :)

Looks like its old man Barry and the youngsters tomorrow......

Also from looking at the scores the course really is just open hyzers

With that said....Dan and Tim shot just as good in Masters!

http://gdstour.com/blog/2010/03/03/new-odds-to-win-the-memorial-day-starting-day-2/

Look at Devan Owens,,,,,sweeet I called it, hes on fire I think he could be the wild card in the top 3...way to go OKY...

Look at Devan Owens,,,,,sweeet I called it, hes on fire I think he could be the wild card in the top 3...way to go OKY...

I've been trying to tell y'all he's the best player in Okie land for near 2 years now.

Great work DUDE!!! Keep it up!!!

I've been trying to tell y'all he's the best player in Okie land for near 2 years now.

Great work DUDE!!! Keep it up!!!

Dude is good but idk if he is better than ur partner!

Good luck to Devan and the other kids out there throwing frisbees!

The Dude has shown he can be good anywhere in the country, where has the other guy? Oklahoma, Tejas, Kansas, Arkansas, all states where long dominates, and yes he has is long but better than Devan....NOPE!!!

JERM!!!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING? throw the teurminaytur!!! or seriously throw a nuke sidearm or a surge sidearm, or a drone sidearm, and putt dude.

The Dude has shown he can be good anywhere in the country, where has the other guy? Oklahoma, Tejas, Kansas, Arkansas, all states where long dominates, and yes he has is long but better than Devan....NOPE!!!

Coda also has like 20 rounds over 1070! Idk how you figure AR is all about distance and from what I have heard the courses they play for the Memorial are just as long. I haven't played on Devan's card too much lately but when I did it seemed like he had a harder time in the woods than Coda does working just an 01' Roc.

How many A-tiers has the dude won? Maybe this will be his 1st NT but I'm pretty sure he hasn't placed super high at a bunch of A-tiers like Coda.

Like I said before the dude is good but he doesn't stomp courses like Coda can.

The Dude has shown he can be good anywhere in the country, where has the other guy? Oklahoma, Tejas, Kansas, Arkansas, all states where long dominates, and yes he has is long but better than Devan....NOPE!!!

Come on scooter I have seen and played with a lot of great golfers from all over the world over my 17 years and I have a good judge of talent. There is a huge difference in skill and length. Skill will win out most of the time except in the SW where the best players are the ones who throw the longest.

The Dude has shown he can be good anywhere in the country, where has the other guy? Oklahoma, Tejas, Kansas, Arkansas, all states where long dominates, and yes he has is long but better than Devan....NOPE!!!

Come on scooter I have seen and played with a lot of great golfers from all over the world over my 17 years and I have a good judge of talent. There is a huge difference in skill and length. Skill will win out most of the time except in the SW where the best players are the ones who throw the longest.

And I have played with these guys more than you have on recent years!

Heck I spent 3 summers playing with the Dude everyday and Coda comes down for about 10 events a year. I think it is pretty sad you think all Coda has is length because that IMO pertains more to Devan.

I personally think I have an advantage on both of them on a technical course but when it comes down to it Coda will still shoot well no matter what whereas the Dude could shoot great or crap the bed.

I wanna give some props out to my boy Condor good shootin today buddy ROLL TIDE! Wish I could be out there looks perfect...shorts and t-shirts, meanwhile in charlotte,nc, snowy icy rainy slush suck.

I'm just glad I finally got to build some courses in Oklahoma that has developed some great talent so that we can have this argument. It wasn't too long ago there weren't many good golfers at all in Oklahoma, but of course an average Okie is always better than a good Texican. :p

There is a very nice crop of OKIES out right now, with Mr Crowl and Adam Hunt soon to be top players on the scene.

I'm just glad I finally got to build some courses in Oklahoma that has developed some great talent so that we can have this argument. It wasn't too long ago there weren't many good golfers at all in Oklahoma, but of course an average Okie is always better than a good Texican. :p

There is a very nice crop of OKIES out right now, with Mr Crowl and Adam Hunt soon to be top players on the scene.

I'm pretty sure TX had 2 1000 rated players when I moved to MPO and now we have 10 which is a pretty good improvement. Luckily we have Houck/Olse to put in courses where the SSA is over 60 which can only make things better in the future.

OK you live in the 2nd biggest state in the country and does Alaska really count. You have the most courses in the world but yet outside of Tejas who is known as a World Power? I'll give you Yeti, but he's a transplant to Tejas. I'm not saying there aren't any good golfers but great... ehh? Nolan tinkered on the verge to great before kiddo's came into his life, Mikey Sayre was Great, but you would think that Tejas should be at the same level as Cali with caliber of golfers, considering the population's being near the same but there is no comparison.

Face it length rules in Tejas...It's not the fault of course designers, it's the fault of Tejas courses being ugly and predictable with it's 19 ugly mesquite trees that the big arms can throw over.

:D

OK you live in the 2nd biggest state in the country and does Alaska really count. You have the most courses in the world but yet outside of Tejas who is known as a World Power? I'll give you Yeti, but he's a transplant to Tejas. I'm not saying there aren't any good golfers but great... ehh? Nolan tinkered on the verge to great before kiddo's came into his life, Mikey Sayre was Great, but you would think that Tejas should be at the same level as Cali with caliber of golfers, considering the population's being near the same but there is no comparison.

Face it length rules in Tejas...It's not the fault of course designers, it's the fault of Tejas courses being ugly and predictable with it's 19 ugly mesquite trees that the big arms can throw over.

:D


Brad Williams beat Climo, Nate, and Jesper at Worlds in his rookie year..........

JD did decent at USDGC....

Bratten gets top 20 at the Memorial after missing 2 holes.......and he isn't even in the top 10 in our state.

Why would we travel anyway? We have a tournament every weekend

Also when I went to Cali I shot 1020 golf which would have been around 1010 in TX.

OK you live in the 2nd biggest state in the country and does Alaska really count. You have the most courses in the world but yet outside of Tejas who is known as a World Power? I'll give you Yeti, but he's a transplant to Tejas. I'm not saying there aren't any good golfers but great... ehh? Nolan tinkered on the verge to great before kiddo's came into his life, Mikey Sayre was Great, but you would think that Tejas should be at the same level as Cali with caliber of golfers, considering the population's being near the same but there is no comparison.

Face it length rules in Tejas...It's not the fault of course designers, it's the fault of Tejas being a part of God forsaken country which is dirty, ugly, cacti, thorns, and 19 puny mesquite trees, that the big arms can throw over. I know that since you live there you have to like it but :x

:D

FWIW I live in the "Piney woods" so there is no cacti here just awesome DG land with NO courses.

Brad Williams beat Climo, Nate, and Jesper at Worlds in his rookie year..........

JD did decent at USDGC....

Bratten gets top 20 at the Memorial after missing 2 holes.......and he isn't even in the top 10 in our state.

Why would we travel anyway? We have a tournament every weekend


You talking about the Worlds in KC where lengtht was the only factor, have you ever been there? They believe that 475 is an appropriate distance. Bratten cashed at the Memorial...come on really?? And again I've played the Memorial 6 or 8 years and length helps tremendously there. Okay since I have pushed your buttons, got you riled up and your panties all coiled up your sphincter I will agree that JD is awesome, and Olse is also very good!

I don't believe that dude named Bradly Williams really is who he says he is, because I haven't seen Sonny Ashby in a while and I swear they are the same exact person.

You talking about the Worlds in KC where lengtht was the only factor, have you ever been there? They believe that 475 is an appropriate distance. Bratten cashed at the Memorial...come on really?? And again I've played the Memorial 6 or 8 years and length helps tremendously there. Okay since I have pushed your buttons, got you riled up and your panties all coiled up your sphincter I will agree that JD is awesome, and Olse is also very good!

I don't believe that dude named Bradly Williams really is who he says he is, because I haven't seen Sonny Ashby in a while and I swear they are the same exact person.

Is he a prick? If not he isn't "the cactus"

Also Brad loves the bumblebee look with short gym shorts and a yellow shirt.

Bratten got 20th after taking a 7 and 8 for missing two holes and according to him he would have made top 5 without them............idk if it is true.

You do also realize that only Blue Valley was a huge course and Rosedale was set in a horrible way due to the fact the Jrs also played it. Thronfield was not a D course and Waterworks is like usual in the medium setup.

I was just kidding about Robbie, but if there is anyone that feeds off his D it's him.

All I know is that, other than Jay Reading who is the best putter in the World, and JD and Olse, any Texican shows up on the East Coast, or the Vibram, the Beaver State, or any tournament in the Southern Pines they're in trouble.

If you guys play in Tejas, Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Wyoming or Montana plains, Western Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, the Moon, you guys have a chance

I was just kidding about Robbie, but if there is anyone that feeds off his D it's him.

All I know is that, other than Jay Reading who is the best putter in the World, and JD and Olse, any Texican shows up on the East Coast, or the Vibram, the Beaver State, or any tournament in the Southern Pines they're in trouble.

If you guys play in Tejas, Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Wyoming or Montana plains, Western Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, the Moon, you guys have a chance

See you at Vibram!

Also I prefer tight holes.........lol

Good excuse to rock the Cyclone and Comet. Also according to Nikko Brad is the best mid thrower around but I disagree since I play dubs with him and see all his bad shots!

And Back to Coda, you can't be considered great by beating up on a bunch of locals. I poke at him becasue I know he is a great player, I coined him as Young Jedi because he was a master in trainging, but he is wasting his talent not traveling outside a 200 mile radius. He had 5 guys from Tulsa going to the Memorial, which is made for his game, but yet he won't go, I don't understand it.

And Back to Coda, you can't be considered great by beating up on a bunch of locals. I poke at him becasue I know he is a great player, I coined him as Young Jedi because he was a master in trainging, but he is wasting his talent not traveling outside a 200 mile radius. He had 5 guys from Tulsa going to the Memorial, which is made for his game, but yet he won't go, I don't understand it.

I agree with this!

Waste of talent or waste of expenses is a different matter though! Until there is money in the sport why would you travel so far? IMO I am making more money per day in school than I would make traveling to big events.

I agree with this!

Waste of talent or waste of expenses is a different matter though! Until there is money in the sport why would you travel so far? IMO I am making more money per day in school than I would make traveling to big events.

Well Duh? :D

Question: Have I ever lost to you? I can't recall and if it has happened I know you know the exact day if it ever happened :D

I'm just bustin your balls :D

Well Duh? :D

Question: Have I ever lost to you? I can't recall and if it has happened I know you know the exact day if it ever happened :D

I'm just bustin your balls :D

IDK you have only played against me once or twice in the past few years........and I hope you could have beaten me when I was 17 and throwing all Gateway. lol

Maybe this will be the year?

McCabe is the only guy I keep tabs on since one of my goals is to beat him 1/2 the time this year.

**** I forgot McCabe is a Texican now.....he may live there but he's no Texican, no wonder y'alls ratings are raising Yeti and McCabe are draggin youns up

**** I forgot McCabe is a Texican now.....he may live there but he's no Texican, no wonder y'alls ratings are raising Yeti and McCabe are draggin youns up

Yeah they bring a little piece of those NT ratings back home with them!

well I think Coda does jam and can consistently beat Devan, But I started this whole mess. I wooped Devan's *** and Mcbeths also in Lewisville, but nobody knows my name,....thats ok. I just had 2 kids, finished my college degree and got married....so now that Im free Watch out. .
But Devan jams and he is hot right now. I hope he can pull off an upset at Memorial. Cactus is good, but if you know how to **** him off then you already have him beat (haha). But seriously Devan is very consistent and when he’s on he can hang with anybody. Playing with him I think we have similar games, we will not be know for our Robbie Distance but, our consistency when on will hang with any one....
My Goal is to get qualified for USDGC this year and finally since Im out of school come play the event ive been dreamin about.
the Funny thing is now that Im actually traveling to play events, Im now a Colorado'n..........sorry TX

and yes DFW area propelled my game so fast, I went from 970 to 997 in almsot a year playing versus McCabe, Hall, Olse, Devan, Coda, JD...there is alot of talent especially in the DFW area...

and McCoy...come on man please dont try and say Tx is ugly and crappy when u live in God forsaken, barren land of OK, seriously....?
yeh u might have given a valiant effort with building courses, but its always going to just be OK,,,,,, go UT

you 2 get a room :)

ok, other than green country, ne ok, tulsa area, the rest of ok is pretty lame looking. Especially since i live square in the middle of the Georgia pines these days. Amen to kids affecting the golf game. I have only had time for 4 rounds of golf since October.

Anyone have the word on why Val isn't playing?

She posted during the live feed yesterday she tweaked something and decided not to play.

twisted her knee

Bummer. Thanks for the update.

is it just me?

the layout played y'day was a Par 55 with 17 Par 3's and 1 Par 4, correct? (good lord, i hope i got this right; otherwise i'll put on the buffoon hat).

i've got a little bit of a problem with a par 55 layout for an NT event. shouldn't an NT event showcase our sport? Is a Par 55 layout with only 1 non-Par-3 what we want our sport to be about at the highest level? isn't this playing small? this would be like the Masters at Augusta having actual tourney play be like the Par 3 shootout they have the day before the event happens. what about having the approach shot be part of an NT-caliber layout?

I'm the TD of the Skylands Classic at Warwick, the last NT event of 2010. I'm working on a tournament layout the polar opposite of a Par 55 layout. We may not use it for the NT event, but we will create an 18-hole Par 78 layout with 9 Par 5's, 6 Par 4's, and 3 Par 3's that we will use for some events.

Is it just me? What do others think about a Par 55 layout for our showcase events?

twisted her knee


Your blog sucks kev. Make something up, give us some more old stories...something.

Is it just me? What do others think about a Par 55 layout for our showcase events?

i think they both have their place. your idea for a par 78 sounds AMAZING. I think a lot of players would really enjoy that. but that being said... look at this course! it was my first time to see the fountain hills course watching the live webcam feed yesterday and it looks gorgeous. we saw even the best of players have a hard time when others were doing well. it presents enough challenge and score variation (1000 rated guys who can throw far shooting in the 960s... when others shooting 1080s) to be a top tournament course.

i agree with you on having more long courses with true par 4s and 5s, great idea, but there is no need to have ALL the courses be that way. I think there is a different mental challenge to face when trying to make deuce on most of the holes on a course. to get a streak of 2s going is not easy on the mental side, especially on holes that are 350-420 like fountain.

both have their place in our majors and NTs, imo.

on the topic of the live coverage... 3 of the guys on the Lead card today finished 1,2,3 at the gentlemans challenge and they are on top again in this event... i wish we were watching THAT CARD instead of watching AMs. But I guess it is hard to set up cameras on two courses.

that said, i enjoyed yesterdays coverage, it was a nice break from the old regular desk job

your right itcurrently sucks, the only stories i have these days are stories about the kids.

fountain hills may only be a par55 but it is an entertaining and visualy statisfying course. Imo when your par is over 68 its almost torture and the fun factor is eliminated. I cant speak for your course but generally speaking courses that long are more work than fun.

The standards for courses used in NTs and higher for Open division is an SSA of 49 or higher. Looks like the SSA yesterday was 52+. I have more problem with the hole lengths which seemed like too many tweeners for gold level scoring spread and too much fluke factor brought in with pins too close to OB. That would really have been more noticeable if it were a more windy day like some of the nasty ones seen at Fountain in the past. For example, in the live coverage, Climo went OB on the corner of a blind inlet and it looked like there was no reference to where the OB ended where he could see it from the tee to adjust his shot angle.

how is the live coverage? better than the usdgc I hope. just glad it's happening!

I am logged into planet disc golf but theres nothing to click to make the show come on,,,wtd?

The only way to keep guys from being -40 for this tournament is to make putting more difficult.

The thing I absolutely hate about this tournament is the Wed -Saturday schedule. Until this is really a major, it's not worth it.

Is Pooh Bear flipping me off?

There is a difference between should and should not.


I'm confused.
Are you really saying if the rules say you should do "A" you don't have to follow that rule but if the rules say you should not do "B" you have to follow that one?

I can't even begin to understand that logic

Wtf? What happened to Barry?

yeah... no doubt... why does he have 7's on first two holes? Injury? What!?

Barry broke his hand!

how did he break his hand?

Unknown. Live broadcast announced that he broke his hand. He must have done in in warm up or during play as there is a picture of him with Nikko, Paul and Devan on hole 1.

how do you break your hand in warm up at a disc golf course??? just curious

Barry has a broken hand? Hmm… I bet Nikko has a shiner.

I think Nikko is unscathed but Barry's mini is a little shinier

how do you break your hand in warm up at a disc golf course??? just curious

Your follow-through hits a nearby object, such as a tree or a tee sign.

Or you lock your keys in your car, and you use your fist instead of your elbow to break the glass.

Or you get into a fist fight.

Or you trip and fall, landing awkwardly on your hand...

Is Pooh Bear flipping me off?

He's smiling at you

I am logged into planet disc golf but theres nothing to click to make the show come on,,,wtd?

Is Disc Golf Planet working? I still haven't been able to get in

Unknown. Live broadcast announced that he broke his hand. He must have done in in warm up or during play as there is a picture of him with Nikko, Paul and Devan on hole 1.


rumor has it he punched his mini on hole 1 and sprained/broke his hand

which hand?

Brad Williams withdraws due to a DUI last night after leaving the Fly-Mart. 4 beers and he think someone did a little phone tag with the local po po. Spent the night in the pokey.

Bummer. :(

Barry Punched his mini on the 18th green yesterday after his 30 footer hit the cage and rolled back to him. His hand was pretty swelled today when he arrived at vista. Classic

ps Right hand

that sucks. thats why i kick things not punch. ;) too bad he started off so well this year

Barry Punched his mini on the 18th green yesterday after his 30 footer hit the cage and rolled back to him. His hand was pretty swelled today when he arrived at vista. Classic

ps Right hand

Never underestimate the value of the floppy mini!

123456

he said it was part of his master plan because when once it heals it will be even stronger. of course, by it i mean his mini.

Barry has a broken hand? Hmm� I bet Nikko has a shiner.

I wonder if he got a courtesy violation warning.

"I love my life, I love my job"

amen i love my life....

Never underestimate the value of the PADDED mini!


fyp

if someone really called the police on Brad williams they are TRUELY a TOOLBAG..

Now that just sucks!

Was wondering if anyone else read the PDGA commentary and got a chuckle out of the opening paragraph?

Open division tournament leader Barry Schultz, who shot a -11 at Fountain Hills in round one, sustained a hand injury and was forced to withdraw from the Memorial just prior to his 1:45pm scheduled tee time today. Barry showed great class and sportsmanship by showing up at the tee of hole one to wish card mates Paul McBeth, Devan Owens, and Nikko Locastro well before they teed off. The loss of Schultz to the lead card made 21 year old Nikko Locastro the oldest player in that group indicating that there is a youth movement in the upper echelon of the open pro division.

Was wondering if anyone else read the PDGA commentary and got a chuckle out of the opening paragraph?

Open division tournament leader Barry Schultz, who shot a -11 at Fountain Hills in round one, sustained a hand injury and was forced to withdraw from the Memorial just prior to his 1:45pm scheduled tee time today. Barry showed great class and sportsmanship by showing up at the tee of hole one to wish card mates Paul McBeth, Devan Owens, and Nikko Locastro well before they teed off. The loss of Schultz to the lead card made 21 year old Nikko Locastro the oldest player in that group indicating that there is a youth movement in the upper echelon of the open pro division.

i don't get it.

yeah, I don't see what there is to chuckle about. We've all had our blow ups, and punching your mini isn't exactly the exclamation of anger or even abuse I've witnessed first hand. I'm sure Barry was devastated that he wasn't going to be able to play, and it truly was a display of his sportsmanship to show up and wish those guys well...IMO

if someone really called the police on Brad williams they are TRUELY a TOOLBAG..

If Brad Williams really decided to drive drunk, I would hope someone would stop him. I don't know what happened, and I'm not saying it's cool to call the cops on your friends, the appropriate action maybe should have been to talk him out of driving. However, we all know that some people can't be reasoned with when they are drunk, and talking sense is a lost cause at times.

Saying that someone is a "tool" for getting a drunk driver off the road seems a bit backwards. Had Brad been drunk, driven home, and ran into someone I loved and killed them, I would have been very upset if I had found out that someone knew he was driving drunk and didn't take whatever action necessary to stop him from driving.

Perhaps the humor aspect was Nikko becoming the "old man" in the group, not the Barry issue?

Open division tournament leader Barry Schultz, who shot a -11 at Fountain Hills in round one, sustained a hand injury and was forced to withdraw from the Memorial just prior to his 1:45pm scheduled tee time today. Barry showed great class and sportsmanship by showing up at the tee of hole one to wish card mates Paul McBeth, Devan Owens, and Nikko Locastro well before they teed off. The loss of Schultz to the lead card made 21 year old Nikko Locastro the oldest player in that group indicating that there is a youth movement in the upper echelon of the open pro division.

Here's the contrast. This is a part of the Memorial Preview article:

And while Locastro's tremendous skills cannot be doubted, the now 21-year old will be under intense scrutiny from both his competitors and the PDGA, both of whom have frowned on some of Locastro's on-course emotional outbursts. Whether he can channel that instinctive energy towards productive results remains to be seen.

Mentioning Nikko blows up during a round in the preview while failing to mention that Barry blew up during round 1 is pretty interesting...I'm not saying it doesn't happen, or either competitor has the right to have those kind of meltdowns during a round, but it does seem like a bit of a double standard.

Barry wasn't the only person who broke his hand out of frustration. Rumor has it another player in MA1 broke his hand after punching the ground. Common guys, this is supposed to be a non-contact sport!

If Brad Williams really decided to drive drunk, I would hope someone would stop him. I don't know what happened, and I'm not saying it's cool to call the cops on your friends, the appropriate action maybe should have been to talk him out of driving. However, we all know that some people can't be reasoned with when they are drunk, and talking sense is a lost cause at times.

Saying that someone is a "tool" for getting a drunk driver off the road seems a bit backwards. Had Brad been drunk, driven home, and ran into someone I loved and killed them, I would have been very upset if I had found out that someone knew he was driving drunk and didn't take whatever action necessary to stop him from driving.

i highly doubt he was drunk after 4 beers. and yes you are a tool bag if you call the cops on someone in that situation. if you had time to call the cops then you had time to go run out after him and stop him before he leaves.whether you know him or not. altho i doubt anyone did call the cops.

Mentioning Nikko blows up during a round in the preview while failing to mention that Barry blew up during round 1 is pretty interesting...I'm not saying it doesn't happen, or either competitor has the right to have those kind of meltdowns during a round, but it does seem like a bit of a double standard.

punching your mini isnt much of an outburst. ive seen barry's 'outbursts' and they arnt any big deal. usually quite and undistracting. nikko's outbursts are loud and distracting. thats the issue. if all nikko ever did was punch his mini or let out a single profanity we wouldnt even be talking about it.

[QUOTE=smyith;1415406]i highly doubt he was drunk after 4 beers. /QUOTE]


Apparently the police officer thought differently.

punching your mini isnt much of an outburst. ive seen barry's 'outbursts' and they arnt any big deal. usually quite and undistracting. nikko's outbursts are loud and distracting. thats the issue. if all nikko ever did was punch his mini or let out a single profanity we wouldnt even be talking about it.

I agree. I wouldn't find what Barry did that distracting either. It is not like yelling, stomping, kicking things, etc. I guess my point was how is Nikko's potential for a meltdown news worthy and Barry's anger causing him to break his hand not?

i highly doubt he was drunk after 4 beers.


Apparently the police officer thought differently.

"Drunk" and "legally intoxicated" are 2 different things. However, a DUI only depends on the latter.

To get this back on track... how long til we can expect the R-Pro Barry Schultz Mini?

I'm just sayin...

punching your mini isnt much of an outburst. ive seen barry's 'outbursts' and they arnt any big deal. usually quite and undistracting. nikko's outbursts are loud and distracting. thats the issue. if all nikko ever did was punch his mini or let out a single profanity we wouldnt even be talking about it.

absolutely.

Chuck, I always admire your positive outlook on things.

I personally just feel that ownership of behavior is more important than wishing someone else good luck, so I got a chuckle out of how bad behavior ended up in a glorified position. Being praised for sportsmanship from unsportsmanlike behavior without complete ownership means nothing. I prefer seeing people without scripted comments, and hear someone man up and say I was a baffoon and this is what I did, and this is what I now have as a natural consequence. An apology and ownership of self, and directly to those people it impacted. Then you can praise Barry for his integrity and smortsmanship to the game. I hope he does this. This applies to everyone, not just Barry and the provided current example, and certainly not just to Open level players.

Barry wasn't the only person who broke his hand out of frustration. Rumor has it another player in MA1 broke his hand after punching the ground. Common guys, this is supposed to be a non-contact sport!

I was on the card and he did. It was crazy. When will people learn to always ... AND I MEAN ALWAYS .. punch with your left hand. Also always grab your disc from the throny buch with your left hand too!

I was on the card and he did. It was crazy.

I guess if the ground is hard enough to throw big rollers on, it's hard enough to break your hand if you punch it.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3390/3634441798_027ec2a3ed.jpg

Something like this? :D

Barry's new tournament outfit.

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/08/13/iron-man-punch-ground.jpg

Had he been able to listen to the live online coverage, he would have heard Terry and Dave applauding players who retrieved their disc with their off hands from the water and reminding others to always use your off hand for grabbing your disc in riskier areas on the ground. Considering that in the past shoes have been partly eaten away from too much time exposed in the water at the Fountain, doesn't it seem strange that we are OK with player exposure from the showers of water from the fountain when the wind is blowing like yesterday? Does that water somehow become "safe" once it's blown in the air or is the water safer now in the fountain pool than it was in the past?

Had he been able to listen to the live online coverage, he would have heard Terry and Dave applauding players who retrieved their disc with their off hands from the water and reminding others to always use your off hand for grabbing your disc in riskier areas on the ground. Considering that in the past shoes have been partly eaten away from too much time exposed in the water at the Fountain, doesn't it seem strange that we are OK with player exposure from the showers of water from the fountain when the wind is blowing like yesterday? Does that water somehow become "safe" once it's blown in the air or is the water safer now in the fountain pool than it was in the past?

I heard the fountain removes the radioactivity.

When I played the Worlds there in 1990, I remember seeing a sign that the pond contained non-potable water, which I thought was odd, because so does every other pond!

Does this water contain some non-treated sewage, or some other contaminants that would make it particularly hazardous?

if we win a raffel on the online coverage but dont actually hear our name, will we still get our prize

That's what they said regarding prizes.

well Im just saying that,

sweet thanks, I was just wondereing, Im working all day and only watch the recaps at night so If I get called I just want to know... thanks man.
See you guys at GBO?

I am amazed watching the live coverage, I have not yet been to the Memorial, hoping next year. The FH course seems wide open allowing big shots with danger close to every pin. IS the other course similar or is it tight and wooded?

So what happened to Bradley Williams?

I am amazed watching the live coverage, I have not yet been to the Memorial, hoping next year. The FH course seems wide open allowing big shots with danger close to every pin. IS the other course similar or is it tight and wooded?

pretty sad that this reminded me of MW2.

Yep, see ya in Emporia. Can't wait to GTFO of this frozen tundra...Snow is melting slowly but surely. This event always makes me want spring to get here faster!