3/15-16

qualifications will be the same as last year with the exception that masters players must now be of masters age, cutoff for pros playing advanced will remain at 955 as i feel the new pdga cut-off is way too high.

this years divisions will be:
beef:
radl
pade
bayville
nova
spotsy
charlotte (should they accept invitation)

dairy:
unitty
seneca
HHome
blue ridge
calvert
baltimore (formerly mid-atlantic)

feel free to discuss among yourselves. :p

Who needs a free agent?
I have relatives in the HH area :)

My next shoulder surgery should be healed by then.

the ReaL question is will i get to play against biscoe or hysell this year...

But Ams may still play in the advanced division no matter what thier rating, correct?

2nd question - Is Baltimore a new team this year along with Charlotte?




Oh yes, and NOVA!!!!!!!!!!

UniTTy.

But Ams may still play in the advanced division no matter what thier rating, correct?

2nd question - Is Baltimore a new team this year along with Charlotte?




Oh yes, and NOVA!!!!!!!!!!




correct on #1, baltimore is mid-atlantic rebels/yankee confederate alliance/lindsay's team.

Is that Seneca, SC?

nope

Is that Seneca, SC?



Tradd?! ... on the Message Bard?! Welcome back!
you hoping/looking to get on a team?

the ReaL question is will i get to play against biscoe or hysell this year...



if not one of us then trapasso, i'm sure you will hate it either way- we're such a bunch of disagreeable jerks.

is there any place where the format/scoring/etc is posted?

1st time on the board actually...had password issues that I finally decided to resolve.

Not really looking to get on a team, just was surprised to see Seneca on there. Wasn't sure if it was SC or not...apparently not. Although, I bet upstate SC could put together a decent team.

Why surprised to see Seneca on the list?????

Seneca > name of the course in MD.

I never knew that Seneca was a better name for a course that a name of a course in Maryland. Thanks for clearing it up Pat. :D

Seneca = Name of a place in South Cackalack

if Seneca + Tradd
then South Carolina

if Seneca + VTI
then Maryland

;)

not better then...Greater than

PP- are you da coach again this year?

charlotte is officially IN.

Yep, just clarifying... I was surprised to see Senaca, SC on the list. Was unaware of other Seneca DGCs.

Me too. :D

PP- are you da coach again this year?



good question.I'll let you know soon.

I never knew that Seneca was a better name for a course that a name of a course in Maryland. Thanks for clearing it up Pat. :D

I'm confused now.

you used the > which means greater or better than.

That depends on how you use the symbol. In this case, > is used as an arrow pointing the meaning of Seneca that was on Biscoe's list. Man you guys don't know anything! :)

lol!

info below has been sent to team captains as appropriate...

Virginia Team Invitational 2008

March 15-16 Hawk Hollow DGC, Spotsylvania,VA

(in addition there will be a One and Done singles tournament Friday 3/14 at 1:00 pros $20 ams $10)

Beef Division:
RADL (defending champ)
PADE
Bayville
NOVA
Spotsy
Charlotte

Dairy Division:
UniTTy
Seneca
HHome
Blue Ridge
Calvert
Baltimore

Entry fee is $40 per player. Payout will remain the same as in previous years. (First and second in each division, first and second overall, individuals with best record per seeding per division.)

Tee time will be 10:00 on Saturday and 9:00 on Sunday. Format will be the same as last year with divisional play followed by 2 teams from each division in playoffs. Tie breakers are head to head first followed by total individual wins, and thirdly holes remaining in individual wins.

The last place team from each division will play off against one another for the right to return in 2009. The loser of this match will be eliminated for 2009 and be placed back on the waiting list (likely 7-8 years). HHome Team and Team Spotsy are EXEMPT from this requirement. Should either of these teams finish last in their respective division the 5th place team will be placed in the elimination match.

Teams will consist of the following:
4 Open
2 Masters
2 Advanced (or pro with player rating beneath 955- see below*)
1 Lady

Ratings will be based on the late January update.

* Players registered with the PDGA as pros may play am at VTI up to the 955 cut-off. Players registered as ams may be of any rating. Players who have re-classified from pro to am will be subject to individual review. Players who have accepted cash in pro divisions and are rated above 955 will be ineligible regardless of reclassification.

6 of the 8 male players must be from the geographic area/course represented by the team or be grandfathered in by virtue of competing in VTI 2005.

Grandfathered Player List (only includes players without a direct tie to the team�s geographic region as those players from each given region are eligible either way)
Home: Ellis, Bonday, Mullins, Zadareky, Hysell
Spotsy: Lugo, Todd, Clements, Hasnain
Seneca: DeLeonardis
UniTTy: Williams, Sheffield, Reiser, Cahill, Buono
Baltimore: Jernigan, Mela
NOVA: Sonderfan

If you have questions about player�s eligibility contact me.

Each team�s coach seeds their own players within division. A match consists of each player on one team playing a 9 hole match against the player of their seed on the opposing team. Players gain one point for their team by winning a match and � point for tying. Team with the most points wins the match.

I will also get team shirts done once again- cost will likely be roughly $6 per short sleeve t-shirt, $9 per long sleeve t-shirt, and $20 per sweatshirt They will bear your team name and an as yet undecided Hawk Hollow design. Deadline to order garments will be February 22.

Questions/further info: [email protected] or 540-661-6685.

hopefully we'll be at the hollow this year...

bridges are much improved with still more improvement to come but if we have the monsoon we had last year there is simply nothing that can be done. i've lived nearby almost my entire life and never seen that stream that high.

And you probably didn't get any more rain until October either.

...sure seemed that way, we've been feeding hay since late july- usually don't start until november. hopefully the supply will last through the winter.

Who needs a free agent? lol

or a lefty?? Where is Lugo or Girlie?? Holla at me.

Hello all,

For those who don't know me - this is Andrew Rivers and I am currently the president of the Disc Golf Club of Northern Virginia. This year for the Virginia Team Invitational, the Disc Golf Club of Northern Virginia will be having a HAWK HOLLOW BASKET CALENDAR FUNDRAISER for a new basket at the Hawk Hollow course. As I am sure many are aware, the course is maintained by John Biscoe who generously allows us to play on his land for free. This is one of the gem courses in our area but several baskets need replacing. We want to give John a new high quality basket as a small token of our appreciation for allowing us to play on his course and for running fantastic events.

To raise funds, I have created a 2008 Disc Golf Photo Calendar of pictures from our local courses. This calendar also contains local tournament dates from DE, MD, PA, VA, & WV that I have compiled thus far for the year and is a cool reminder you can place in the home or office. The calendar contains photos from Rockburn, Paw Paw, Grange, Hawk Hollow, Sherando and others (FYI - photos are from course holes and don't contain any shots of golfers). I really do think the calendar looks really nice and is worth the donation :D


The cost for the calendar will be $20 with ALL profits going directly to purchasing a new basket for the course. In addition to purchasing a calendar, I will of course be taking any other donations of any size for this effort. To order a calendar, please either PM me, email me ([email protected] sbcglobal.net) or talk to me at an event - I will be attending several Ice Bowls and events in Maryland and Virginia prior to the VTI and will have calendars on hand. Any questions, please ask via email ([email protected]) or pm. Think of the times you have played this awesome course for absolutely FREE and please contribute an amount worthy of the experience you have had there...

Hey John...is there still room for one more team?

Richmonders need to show their prowess.

randy- i can get you in in 2016 or so. i suggest richmond bring a team to the battle of the blue ridge team event in november at timber ridge.

Oh we will be there. Just a group of us that were hoping we could get on board with your event.

would it be a horrible idea to drop the number of team members in order to allow for more teams?

imo yes. my feeling is 9 players is the ideal number for team play as it translates nicely to groupings on 18/27 hole dg courses. it is also not my goal for this particular event to be particularly inclusive (hence the invitational part of the name).

a more likely occurence than dropping the number of players per team is establishing a qualifying process which would allow more teams POTENTIAL access. that would likely involve the battle of the blue ridge becoming the de facto va qualifying event. this, however is all hypothetical at this point and will remain so until some point later in the year.

John a couple of questions:
1. Do you have a tarheel T-shirt request?
2. Is Masters going to be age based this year?

My favorite tourney of the year

UniTTy!!!!!!

sheffy- my faves insult the other schools... you know the old "duke is puke, wake is fake, but the school we hate is nc state", etc,etc-- i have been wearing the one you brought me last year regularly since the season started. if there's one that just says "duke is a bunch of whiny suck-[censored] babies coached by a rat" that would be perfect. anything insulting uva would be great too.

on that note... a classic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOgC2Qbqh4)

masters is indeed age-based.

now that was funny, especially for a UNC fan.

And now Biscoe will be banned or put on probation.

All good ECU Pirates hate NC State!!!!

And besides, we won our bowl game this year!

All good ECU Pirates hate NC State!!!!

And besides, we won our bowl game this year!



Go Pirates!

thats pretty funny.

Team Spotsy VTI Team Tryouts will be held on Sunday 24 February at 1000 at Hawk Hollow. Format will be one round of 27 holes.

Requirements for tryouts:

Member of Spotsylvania Disc Golf Club (Dues are $15 and must be paid prior to start of tryout round)
In order to raise money for the club there will be a $10 fee to participate in the tryout which also must be paid prior to start of tryout.
No payout upon completion of the tryout.

At least 6 of the 8 male players must be from the Spotsylvania / Fredericksburg area. Additionally the masters division is age protected so at least 2 of the eight players must be at least 40 years of age on or before 31 December 2008. (So this means if there are not at least two players of masters age that qualify in the top 8 positions, then the top two masters players regardless of how they finish on the day of the tryout will be on the team.)

The following players are "grandfathered" as previous members of team Spotsy: Lugo, Todd, Clements, Hasnain. Although grandfathered, if they desire to compete on team spotsy they have to qualify for one of the positions on the day of the tryout.

For those that qualify as team members, the entry fee will be $40 to compete in the VTI.

If you have any questions please contact me:
Jeff Shattuck
[email protected]
540-786-3687

Hey I'll finally be back on the east for the VTI! Of course I'll be getting married that weekend in NC...but whatever.

Looking over the specs for this year�s VTI, I noticed that we will be playing nine hole matches. I seem to remember playing twelve hole matches in past years, but then again I don�t remember so good sometimes. Is this in fact a change for 2008? If so, that certainly turns up the pressure a bit.

it was a change for 2006, i think.

bump...

pics anywhere?

HAWK HOLLOW PHOTOS (http://www.wam.umd.edu/~clwatson/Hawk.html)

thanks Chris Watson for the photo tour.

very cool John! Thanks! When you get a chance, can you post the distances for the holes (or PM me)to give me some perspective. The course looks really, really AWESOME!!! Hope for SUNNY daze during VTI!

great photos!... thanks! and i've had a couple guys ask me about distances as well

here ya go...
1- 429 plays 300 par 3
2- 240 plays 330 par 3
3- 462 plays 360 with forced layup par 4
4- 421 plays 310 par 3
5- 417 plays 500+ par 4
6- 240 plays 240 par 3
7- 975 plays 975 par 5
8- 291 plays 291 par 3
9- 210 plays 300 par 3
10- 804 plays 700+ par 4
11- 276 plays 276 par 3
12- 354 plays 400 par 4
13- 228 plays 220 par 3
14- 435 plays 450 par 3 (arguably 4)
15- 654 plays 600 par 4
16- 480 plays 400 par 4
17- 400 plays 425 par 3
18- 693 plays 650 par 4

One of my favorite courses...maybe some day I'll get back there.

FOUL MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Team Blue Ridge will have it's best team ever this year, sounds like the home team will also. Let's get those team rosters on here so I can begin to tabulate the whorley odds. Our team will be announced in a few days after all team members have been confirmed.

TTeam UniTTy has been officially determined.........

........I think

TThe Pro
Baird
Sjur
Mystery

Deacon
Sheffy

DeMar

ReaL
TThe Other Mystery

i know i will be there atleast this year, dont have a clue as to who my teammates are this year

TThe Pro
Baird
Sjur
Mystery

Deacon
Sheffy

DeMar

ReaL
TThe Other Mystery



No mystery's allowed.

This year for the Virginia Team Invitational, the Disc Golf Club of Northern Virginia will be having a HAWK HOLLOW BASKET CALENDAR FUNDRAISER for a new basket at the Hawk Hollow course. As I am sure many are aware, the course is maintained by John Biscoe who generously allows us to play on his land for free. This is one of the gem courses in our area but several baskets need replacing. We want to give John a new high quality basket as a small token of our appreciation for allowing us to play on his course and for running fantastic events.

To raise funds, I have created a 2008 Disc Golf Photo Calendar of pictures from our local courses. This calendar also contains local tournament dates from DE, MD, PA, VA, & WV that I have compiled thus far for the year and is a cool reminder you can place in the home or office. The calendar contains photos from Rockburn, Paw Paw, Grange, Hawk Hollow, Sherando and others (FYI - photos are from course holes and don't contain any shots of golfers). I really do think the calendar looks really nice and is worth the donation :D


The cost for the calendar will be $20 with ALL profits going directly to purchasing a new basket for the course. In addition to purchasing a calendar, I will of course be taking any other donations of any size for this effort. To order a calendar, please either PM me, email me ([email protected] sbcglobal.net) or talk to me at an event - I will be attending several Ice Bowls and events in Maryland and Virginia prior to the VTI and will have calendars on hand. Any questions, please ask via email ([email protected]) or pm. Think of the times you have played this awesome course for absolutely FREE and please contribute an amount worthy of the experience you have had there...



Andrew - received your phone message several weeks ago. Left a reply message. Wondering how you are doing in your fund raising and what feedback you have received from other VTI teams. Members of the Spotsy Disc Golf Club have provided some assistance to HH in regards to manual labor and materials. Our club also has $116 that has been donated / collected to support HH bridges etc. There will be 12 teams at the VTI. If each "team" donated $45 ($5 per member) thats $540. That would be enough for a basket and some money that can go towards material for the two remaining bridges that need to be built. Would be nice to have a new basket in the ground for VTI in 5 weeks. If teams own up to a donation - let's get a basket and in the ground and collect the money at the VTI! (I might even be pursuaded to begin the purchasing process and coordinating with John the placement of the sleeve etc between now and VTI - just need to know that teams will step up to the plate come 15 March with the $)

So far Jeff, the calendar project is going pretty smoothly. We have generated almost $500 in revenue which can be used to purchase baskets for the Hawk Hollow course. We still have more calendars available for purchase which I will be trying to sell at upcoming events.

Myself and Tommy Donelson have been trying to contact VTI team captains to see how we can involve other teams in this project and how to maintain interest to make this a tradition for the VTI event in the future.

At this point, a few teams have projects in the works and Team Baltimore led by Lindsay Merce and Ryan Lugo did a great food fundraiser out at the Druid Hill Ice Bowl. I heard rumors that several other teams are ready to start their own projects soon...

We are trying to contact DGA and Innova now to price out baskets and then I would love to coordinate a time to help put a sleeve in the ground. We may not be able to put some of the permanent baskets in the ground until after the donation totals come in, but at least one is a certainty now and I definitely would like to have that one in before VTI. I also sent you an email so we can get in touch about this.

Pat are you playing masters this year?

Andrew - thanks for the info. We have a club meeting on Thursday this week and I expect that John Biscoe will be there. If he hasn't seen this discussion prior to then I'll touch base with him and get his perspective. Hopefully also an idea of where to put the basket and the type of basket he would prefer. Of course he could also just reply to this discussion board and tell us all to take a hike...

Pat are you playing masters this year?



Not sure where I'll be playin right now. We're still trying to fill a few positions.

i see all, i know all :p

Hey Biscoe...I'm trying to help out team Charlotte...but they are not listening...I guess we'll see them again in 2020

mjo and the seven dwarves?

Biscoe, I not finding any cool tarheel T's for ya. If you throw big bead dx aviars, UniTTy can donate one to ya via the tarheel DG club. Max weight, red, and has a carolina blue tarheel ram stamp.

Sheffy

thats about the way it seems right now, its always a mess when you have a big club and too many people trying to do stuff, and not realizing all we need to do is pick a good team and go with it so that we can be back in years to come, and not in 10 or more years! But i know i will be there whoever else it is i dont know anymore, i just want the decision made so i can teach people how to play match play the way they should.
mj

PM sent MJ

sheffy- that would be great. i throw the beadless but it will be a wall disc either way so don't sweat that by any means.

I'll throw it, despite the oh-so-lame logo. :D

Max weight, red, and has a carolina blue tarheel ram stamp.

Sheffy
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<font color="green"> Sarah D needs a place to crash then a ride to Baltimore airport (BWI) on Monday morning after VTI...anyone? anyone?

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You could get her an earlier flight on Sunday since you won't be in the finals....lol

And there it is folks, the gauntlet has officially been thrown down on the field of battle.

i'm guessing we have finished up around 5- maybe a hair earlier.

i will have a couple of vagabonds going to bwi monday afternoon.

i'm guessing we have finished up around 5- maybe a hair earlier.

i will have a couple of vagabonds going to bwi monday afternoon.



So John, who's on your team this year and how much are you paying them?

open: feldberg, jenkins, ellis, mullins
masters: bonday, zadareky
am: trapasso, hysell or biscoe
ladies: boyce

not paying.

I see how it is.

you actually got Dave and Avery to come this year huh?

yep.

wow.

at this time I'd like to thank RADL Team Captain Kirk Yoo for placing me as the 4 seed on team RADL and to John for not putting the Home team in my division.

John,
is HH in spotsy?

yes, but address is 7201 belmont road mineral,va 23117- it's the last house with a mineral address before it switches to spotsy.

rob- i didn't place any team in either division- all dictated by last years results. you will be in the division with my pre-event faves for this year- PADE (Moser, Kallstrom, I believe Nick Schneider is their #4 open player)

bring it schneider

yes, but address is 7201 belmont road mineral,va 23117- it's the last house with a mineral address before it switches to spotsy.

rob- i didn't place any team in either division- all dictated by last years results. you will be in the division with my pre-event faves for this year- PADE (Moser, Kallstrom, I believe Nick Schneider is their #4 open player)



I'm hurt :(

MTL... Play the 3 spot...Ill even let You play 7 holes. LOL

RADL will need some help this year!!!

alright now i am making some good progress on team Charlotte.

alright now i am making some good progress on team Charlotte.



Whatcha got?

the highest rated Pro in NC!!!

and 2 of the highest rated Ams within 500 miles of the VTI! ;)

the highest rated Pro in NC!!!

and 2 of the highest rated Ams within 500 miles of the VTI! ;)


and some quality charlotte golfers which means either people you dont know or you have forgotten about them because we dont travel unless we go to courses on the level that we are used to playing on everyday.but we will have a team that will be ready to challenge anyone!

Zach and Jeremy....Nice pickups

the highest rated Pro in NC!!!

and 2 of the highest rated Ams within 500 miles of the VTI! ;)


and some quality charlotte golfers which means either people you dont know or you have forgotten about them because we dont travel unless we go to courses on the level that we are used to playing on everyday.but we will have a team that will be ready to challenge anyone!



I here ya.......you gonna share or is gonna be a surprise?

ill share as soon as i get the confirmation from a few people if they are able to go or not, eh maybe a surprise in there? i dont know

Team charlotte: shave your palms before you come!

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RADL will need some help this year!!!


tis true...I have read the bones and is was said....Clearly, dem people will go down...its on me.

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Team RADL is getting a little tougher everyday.

We might even get our name on the trophy a third time.

Yeah RADL is spelled with 2 N's now.

Hush, woman!!!

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preceeded by one F


Hold on a minute, big fella. Didn't you get the memo that Peter Shive has officially banned the letter "F" from the MB? :p

is the MB from sesame street?

This discussion brought to you by the letter E

: ) :

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personally, i think it would've been fun to actually SEE and HEAR Kirk begging. :D

So, 4 F's, 2 N's huh...you will be crushed.

Hmmmm....I must have missed something. I don't recall any begging.

i would have been funnier if you did beg, but knowing kirk it was probably more like yelling :D

I only yell when idiots do something stupid like drive their golf carts on the greens.

So, 4 F's, 2 N's huh...you will be crushed.



2 F's, 4 N's ??

Oh Yeah... Ze germans

Only 1F2N's thus far...we'll have to wait &amp; see about the 2nd set!

really..... 3 S's 1 B will be there.

Yeah RADL is spelled with 2 N's now.



does that mean it's spelled with no M,T, or L? my insurance agent wants to know. :p

haha no, I'm still coming and planning on not dying.

Death of a MTL
Don't Tell Mom, MTL's Dead
Dead MTL Walking
To Live and Die in VA

i love the idea.... but i haven't even play hawk hollow yet.... really will try to get into the hawk hollow open, this is my second year doing pdga events and would love to get a calander of the courses around here.... will you be at the loriella tourn.? if so i will get one from you there.... #32297

Yes, I am registered for the Loriella Challenge and will at least be on premisis for both days - see you there!

Hey Bisco,

Can you add a Team Triad to the list for upcoming VTIs?

We would like to form a team from Greensboro, Winston, Burlington and High Point. Just trying to plan ahead for 2020.

Thanks,

Tyson

All we ask is that no one recuit lil wiggy, he is one of us.

hey John, sounds like you should start opening the doors to the vti....looks like it needs to be a week long event to hold all the teams that want to be in.

Maybe like the Virginia open, this too needs to have a qualifier to get into.

Hey Bisco,

Can you add a Team Triad to the list for upcoming VTIs?

We would like to form a team from Greensboro, Winston, Burlington and High Point. Just trying to plan ahead for 2020.

Thanks,

Tyson

All we ask is that no one recuit lil wiggy, he is one of us.



gotcha

are the teams supposed to be geographically based, club based or both? and if geographical how big of an area can you include in one team? (other than the 2 'at-large' team spots)

stop holding tournaments during my wedding weekend.

i would say geographically with club oversight where possible. geographic regions have varied based to at least some degree on dg activity in the areas. trend is most definitely for these area becoming smaller rather than larger.

Any teams left out there without a woman? Mandi's looking for a team to play with. Anyone? PM me.

Hofmann

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Good luck with that!!!

for god's sake it's disc golf-- 95% need ladies.

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Thanks John, we are looking forward to it.

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i do agree the jug will stay in NC

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Y'all retarded.

Team Bayville

"Sugar" Al Shack.
Robzilla
Skinny
Cleetus
Mangoose
"Tha Real" Mook D.
Terry Franks
Keith Barboza
Jessie Banks

The Jugg May leave NC... in 2008.!?!
all are Confirmed and 4sure..

EVEN ME Biscoe !!!!! so me and you and the peppers..
mono e mono...:) me and you. nobody else.. everybody place your bets...

i do agree the jug will stay in NC



I agree too, but it will be just a little southwest of where it used to live. :o

Wanted to provide everyone with an update - so far the calendar sales have generated $520 towards new baskets for Hawk Hollow - my goal is $160 more to cover these two baskets. Several other teams have jumped on board with the course improvement project including Baltimore and Team Spotsy.

I ordered two custom DisCatchers from Innova - they will have a jet black band instead of yellow and will feature the Hawk Hollow "Cow Skull" logo similar to what I've cooked up in this picture.

Thanks to everyone for helping out with this and thanks to Innova for stepping up and giving me a discount price for the DisCatchers!!! 8)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh37/cefire/products_discatchercopy.jpg

Put in your teams so that I can anncounce odds

RADL (defending champ)--???NotWalt, NotLarry, but it�s RADL�nuff said
PA/DE/NJ/NY/TX/CA--??? Some super All-Star team with bombers
Bayville-- Robzilla, Skinny, Cleetus, Mangoose, Mook D., Franks, Barboza, Banks
NOVA�???Egon Spangler, Sheila and crew
Spotsy--??? Better have made some nice bridges to stay exempt from �POM�
Charlotte--???NotStan, MikeJo, and company

Home--feldberg, jenkins, ellis, mullins, bonday, zadareky, trapasso, Biscoe, boyce
Unit-Eat--TThe Pro, Baird Sjur Mystery Deacon Sheffy DeMar ReaL TThe Other Mystery
Seneca�--???Pat, JG, Gawler, Gangloff, Myers, and crew
Blue Ridge�Whorley, Vanderslice, Clemons, Barr, Conrad, Wilhelm, DeVito, Boettcher
Calvert--???Nate Krahn, Erik Smith, Tommy D, and the regular Calvert bunch
Baltimore--???Who-ever it is better bring it!

This already looks like the toughest VTI field of all time IMO.

Team RADL
1. Hofmann
2. Grant Hodges
3. Jackie Smalls
4. MTL
M1. McRee
M2. Carlton Howard
W. Stephanie Greene
A1. Jeremy Bond
A2. Big Wave Dave George

didn't we used to be able to post tables from excel in these forums? can anyone enlighten me on how it's done?

Copy and paste your Excel table into this website created by Krupicka. Then Copy / Paste what it produces into the post page. make sure to select HTML as the "Make Post" option:
http://krupicka.org/cgi-bin/paste2html.cgi

Hey all,

Andrew Rivers and I have been working on getting teams on board with raising funds for new baskets at Hawk Hallow. I think that there are a few teams that we have not contacted or heard back from about this.

I think that all of the baskets currently on the course are on loan, from really awesome people. The baskets are not all in the best shape however. On the 975� hole, twine has to be added to keep your birdie four from falling out of the front of the basket.

In order to deck this incredible course out with baskets we are going to need everyone�s help. What we are hoping to do, is to get all the VTI teams to do some sort of fund raiser each year. It would be nice if every team raised enough money for a basket, then the course would be upgraded in just two VTI�s.

Since raising $340(cost of a delivered powder black Discatcher), is a large burden to bear we are asking for teams to just make an effort. There are twelve teams, so if all of you raise is $28.33, you have done your part to help pay for one basket. This can be accomplished by a game of pass the hat amongst the players on your team, with everyone kicking in $3.14.

Eighteen years later we will have a killer course with killer baskets and we can all sit back and tell everyone we know what we did and how people should continuously buy us beer.

Team NOVA is already on pace to bring 2 baskets to the VTI. I know that it�s late in the game and the VTI is right around the corner. I am not asking you compete against them in the money race, I am asking that you be part of it. If you need help with coming up with ways to raise money for your team you can email me and we figure out what would work best for you.

Thanks,

Tommy Donelson
[email protected]

Team NOVA as of right now:

Ian Liddell
Ryan Strokes Jones
Naved Hasnain
Andrew Rivers
Gary Hall
Joe Pelchat
Rob Callender
Tim Haynes/Kevin Pinky Clark
Carol Silverthorn

Hawk Hollow is incredible Can't wait for some Match Play
Should be a battle lots of strong teams

thanks chuck (and krupicka!).

i will post what i know of the teams tomorrow when i have a better connection. this looks like far and away the most competitive vti so far. last years finalists have both lost some players and most of last years also-rans are much stronger. i think this year we will see at least one virginia team in the playoffs again. (hasn't occurred since vince's masterful coaching job at vti uno.)

bayville, nova, hhome, blue ridge, calvert, pade, spotsy, baltimore all appear improved.

unitty has been strong each year whether they can spell or not.

charlotte promises to be a strong addition. their ams will be a strength from heresay.

With the overlap between Am and Pro anymore, it might make more sense to have player slots filled by anyone, man or woman of any age, in playing positions based on ratings ranges. Would probably be more fair. Just require that among the whole team that there be at least one woman and one geezer and one or two over age 40.

that was how i did it the first year. all divisions were open to both players whoce age/gender/cashing status fit the division and to other players below a rating cap. the second year women had to be women.

this is the fifth year and this year masters have to be masters-aged. i have retained last years cutoff of 955 for pros playing am because imo the new pdga cutoff is way too high.

this is the fifth year and this year masters have to be masters-aged.



this is the best change you have made to this incredible event IMHO.

alright hears charlotte's team
open-mj,peckham,B_S, Henry childress
masters-sam nicholson,ant gale
am-buddy tritt, jeremy koling
women-mandi hofmann

With the overlap between Am and Pro anymore, it might make more sense to have player slots filled by anyone, man or woman of any age, in playing positions based on ratings ranges. Would probably be more fair. Just require that among the whole team that there be at least one woman and one geezer and one or two over age 40.


I agree with everything Chuck said except the ratings part.

i think this year we will see at least one virginia team in the playoffs again. (hasn't occurred since vince's masterful coaching job at vti uno.)


Geez, I hope so. VA teams have had their shots including last year. It was tough getting past all-star teams like RADL, Seneca, trim and PADE in the past. The playing field appears to have become more level this year...we'll see. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Wow, I just noticed that one of either RADL, Bayville, NOVA, PA/DE/NJ/FL/WI/CA or Charlotte is playing in the Play-Out-Match. That is insane to think about. I hope Team Spotsy has put in some serious work and nice bridges at the Hollow to stay exempt from the POM. Whoever is in the POM from our division is guaranteed to be playing a seriously good team.

One other thing...

I feel a strangely intense foul mood coming on.



Wohooo!!!!! It's less than four weeks away! This VTI is the best tournament of the year!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who is covering the event, is it going to be on Disc Golf Monthly? We would all like to see more than the final nine.

so... gurl from charloTTe is playing for RADL, gurl from raleigh area playing for charloTTe

doesn't make sense, but we won't complain!

Who is covering the event, is it going to be on Disc Golf Monthly? We would all like to see more than the final nine.



I'll be TThere covering most of the event, unless I'm asked to play. Should be around an hour of footage each day. I'm sure others we be filming as well. I'll be posting on youtube and RDG (http://www.raleighdiscgolf.com)

so... gurl from charloTTe is playing for RADL, gurl from raleigh area playing for charloTTe



lol

he has a good point.

Who is covering the event, is it going to be on Disc Golf Monthly? We would all like to see more than the final nine.



I'll be TThere covering most of the event, unless I'm asked to play. Should be around an hour of footage each day. I'm sure others we be filming as well. I'll be posting on youtube and RDG (http://www.raleighdiscgolf.com)



nice D!

Who is covering the event, is it going to be on Disc Golf Monthly? We would all like to see more than the final nine.



I'll be TThere covering most of the event, unless I'm asked to play. Should be around an hour of footage each day. I'm sure others we be filming as well. I'll be posting on youtube and RDG (http://www.raleighdiscgolf.com)



nice D!



Sweet and good luck!

I hope Team Spotsy has put in some serious work and nice bridges at the Hollow to stay exempt from the POM.



If you haven't been to HH in awhile, three bridges are in place (holes 7, 9, between 11 &amp; 12). Two more need to be added (holes 10, 14). I think Biscoe has come up with a plan and rumor has it that there will be a work day on 8 March - of course Biscoe will correct me if I am wrong. The current bridges will not disappoint, and I am sure when the two remaining ones are builit, they will not disappoint either.

Additionally, last year Team Spotsy did not have to use their exemption, however, this year it will be difficult....

Will there be Mad Cow Disease at the event?

there will be if you ask pat pitts!!

cattle will be off the course- cow manure will remain but primarily only on 2 holes (1,3)

there will be if you ask pat pitts!!

cattle will be off the course- cow manure will remain but primarily only on 2 holes (1,3)



Matt - Bring some hand sanitizer :D

a little cow poop never hurt anything- erik smith is out there all the time and look how normal he is!!

Not a fair comparison since his relative "normalcy" is a result of massive ingestion, not mere exposure.

http://www.tripledisc.com/preview/hho/catscat.jpg

http://www.ppspix.com/albums/userpics/10002/thumb_IMG_0466.jpg

http://www.ppspix.com/albums/userpics/10002/IMG_0466.jpg

Actual Size

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i dont know what you flammable faces are talking about, i am the most normal one you know or thought you saw once but didnt, although i was near. i do not ingest poo and it is apparent the peasantry count is high and we are in need of population control. thats why im here.

http://www.ppspix.com/albums/userpics/10002/IMG_0527.jpg



I hope that starts to turn over real soon

http://www.ppspix.com/albums/userpics/10002/IMG_0527.jpg



I hope that starts to turn over real soon

it will, it was Sidewinder

Hey all,

Since raising $340(cost of a delivered powder black Discatcher), is a large burden to bear we are asking for teams to just make an effort.



What if some nice guy who doesn't EVER get to play the VTI even though he stays at the TD'S house enough to be considered for the HHome team donates the cost of a basket?

Tell me who to make the check out to and where to send it, and I personally challenge anyone who's ever played the HOLLOW, or had John's great cooking(for FREE), to kick in 20 bucks and the course would be paid for in no time.

20 bucks for the priviledge of playing one of the GREATEST disc golf courses in the country that could have permanent baskets if everyone kicked in just <font color="red">20 bucks! </font>


*climbs down off soapbox and hopes for the best*


Keith

what happened to the poo faced cat?

Keith - AWESOME!!!

Anyone who wants to join up with the project please pm either myself "cefire" or Tommy D "tdonelson" or email at:
[email protected]
[email protected]

and we can discuss what options are available or how you can help, thanks,

AR

what happened to the poo faced cat?


I thought maybe I had been Shive'd, but it is just my server acting squirrely. Just Refresh &amp; you'll see him in all his scatalogical glory.

http://www.ppspix.com/albums/userpics/10002/IMG_0527.jpg



I hope that starts to turn over real soon

it will, it was Sidewinder



old ce leopard actually- the shot looks perfect to me. :p

yeah that should werk nicely, looking forward to playin one of my TOP 5 courses

looking forward to finally playing this one, if its schweb's top5 i cant wait. not to mention it will be my first event for my new sponsors plastic to be thrown in

http://www.ppspix.com/albums/userpics/10002/IMG_0527.jpg



hyzer over the creek all day.

1000 times easier.

whateva dude

my average score throwing annys = 5.12387139817
my average score throwing hyzers = 3.00000000

overhang is getting tighter over water. hyzer gap is starting to close up a little. its more risky than in the past years. just walk the hole backwards, you'll see the illusion.

Who's on Calvert, MeltBrooks?

No, who's on first, what's on second, and I don't know's on third.

calvert: nate krahn, tom kim, tommy d, melty, boyce, burroughs, noble, silverwolf, teves.

O4 spot on Team KillVArt checking in

my average score throwing annys = 5.12387139817
my average score throwing hyzers = 3.00000000



you ought to be able to hit the fairway either way- there's plenty of gap there. only hard part is the part in between the ears.

oh its nothing to do with the shot not being fair.

calvert: nate krahn, tom kim, tommy d, melty, boyce, burroughs, noble, silverwolf, teves.


Sweet, NOVA is not in our division and we still have to play against Erik, Tommy, and Sheila.

Where's the rest of the teams? Biscoe? Vegas is waiting to post odds.

rumor has it that team baltimore (aka mid-atlantic rebels) is looking like myers, hatfield, pfeiffer, lugo, zink, seven, watson, dressel, lindsay. a very competitive team indeed. could i be off by one or two?

i get to be an alternate this year. whoo hoo, will be bouncing between HH and the grange that weekend anyway.

<table> <tr> <td></td><td>UNITTY</td><td></td><td>HHOME</td><td></td><td>SENECA</td><td></td><td>BLUE RIDGE</td><td></td><td>CALVERT</td><td></td><td>BALTIMORE</td><td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>O1</td><td>Schweberger</td><td>1020</td><td>Feldberg</td><td>1032</td><td>Pitts</td><td>1004</td><td>Whorley</td><td>988</td><td>Krahn</td><td>998</td><td>Myers</td><td>1004 </td></tr> <tr> <td>O2</td><td>Bard</td><td>998</td><td>Jenkins</td><td>1023</td><td>Gawler</td><td>992</td><td>Vanderslice</td><td>979</td><td>Kim</td><td>982</td><td>Pfeifer</td><td>985 </td></tr> <tr> <td>O3</td><td>Sjur</td><td>991</td><td>Ellis</td><td>992</td><td>Pancoast</td><td>984</td><td>Gonzalez</td><td>974</td><td>Donelson</td><td>972</td><td>Hatfield</td><td>985 </td></tr> <tr> <td>O4</td><td>Johnson/Land</td><td>974</td><td>Mullins</td><td>977</td><td>?</td><td>?</td><td>Clemons</td><td>977</td><td>Smith</td><td>973</td><td>Lugo</td><td>968 </td></tr> <tr> <td>M1</td><td>Crouch</td><td>962</td><td>Bonday</td><td>963</td><td>Gangloff</td><td>1011</td><td>Barr</td><td>998</td><td>Boyce</td><td>970</td><td>Zink</td><td>986 </td></tr> <tr> <td>M2</td><td>Sheffield</td><td>950</td><td>Zadareky</td><td>955</td><td>Gregory</td><td>1000</td><td>Conrad</td><td>989</td><td>Burroughs</td><td>964</td><td>Thompson</td><td>? </td></tr> <tr> <td>A1</td><td>Yahn</td><td>948</td><td>Biscoe</td><td>952</td><td>Velasquez</td><td>907</td><td>Devito</td><td>962</td><td>Noble</td><td>940</td><td>Dressel</td><td>950 </td></tr> <tr> <td>A2</td><td>Benson</td><td>946</td><td>Trapasso</td><td>950</td><td>Palmer</td><td>949</td><td>Wilhelm</td><td>954</td><td>Johnson</td><td>931</td><td>Watson</td><td>928 </td></tr> <tr> <td>F</td><td>DeMar</td><td>911</td><td>Boyce</td><td>907</td><td>Gangloff</td><td>797</td><td>Boettcher</td><td>774</td><td>Teves</td><td>829</td><td>Merce</td><td>832 </td></tr> <tr> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td> </td></tr> <tr> <td></td><td>RADL</td><td></td><td>PADE</td><td></td><td>BAYVILLE</td><td></td><td>CHARLOTTE</td><td></td><td>NOVA</td><td></td><td>SPOTSY</td><td> </td></tr> <tr> <td>O1</td><td>Hofmann</td><td>1001</td><td>Moser</td><td>1023</td><td>Skinner</td><td>1015</td><td>Johansen</td><td>1022</td><td>Rivers</td><td>977</td><td>Todd</td><td>976 </td></tr> <tr> <td>O2</td><td>Hodges</td><td>1001</td><td>Kallstrom</td><td>1023</td><td>Lee</td><td>994</td><td>Peckham</td><td>991</td><td>Jones</td><td>986</td><td>Cannon</td><td>947 </td></tr> <tr> <td>O3</td><td>Schmalfield</td><td>985</td><td>Schneider</td><td>992</td><td>Stewart</td><td>974</td><td>Smith</td><td>989</td><td>Liddell</td><td>988</td><td>Kilby</td><td>940 </td></tr> <tr> <td>O4</td><td>MTL</td><td>982</td><td>Bradway</td><td>987</td><td>Mangus</td><td>978</td><td>Childress</td><td>973</td><td>Hasnain</td><td>981</td><td>Stowell</td><td>916 </td></tr> <tr> <td>M1</td><td>McRee</td><td>1007</td><td>Hoffman</td><td>1002</td><td>Schack</td><td>1008</td><td>Nicholson</td><td>961</td><td>Pelchat</td><td>962</td><td>Bartlett</td><td>923 </td></tr> <tr> <td>M2</td><td>Howard</td><td>990</td><td>Morgan</td><td>985</td><td>Zilla</td><td>977</td><td>Gale</td><td>960</td><td>Hall</td><td>967</td><td>Shattuck</td><td>931 </td></tr> <tr> <td>A1</td><td>Bond</td><td>964</td><td>Kight</td><td>952</td><td>Banks</td><td>952</td><td>Tritt</td><td>947</td><td>Callender</td><td>960</td><td>French</td><td>912 </td></tr> <tr> <td>A2</td><td>George</td><td>953</td><td>Taylor</td><td>955</td><td>Barboza</td><td>968</td><td>Koling</td><td>975</td><td>Haynes/Clark</td><td>950/939</td><td>Seely</td><td>914 </td></tr> <tr> <td>F</td><td>Green</td><td>846</td><td>Moser</td><td>873</td><td>Frank</td><td>867</td><td>Hofmann</td><td>893</td><td>Silverthorn</td><td>846</td><td>Weidle</td><td>943 </td></tr> </table>

the above are to the best of my knowledge... some may not be in the correct order, team spotsy tryouts are this weekend so that team is purely speculation.

Awesome! Cant wait!

When is RADL hitting the road to head up? Team Charlotte? TTrim?

purely for the 'fun' of it... here are the avg ratings per slot

O1 1005
O2 991.75
O3 980.5
O4 971.4545455
M1 979.4166667
M2 969.8181818
A1 945.5
A2 947.5454545
F 859.8333333

...Sugar Schack has cast down the gauntlet according to Zilla: "I haven't ever lost in match play and don't intend to start now"

looks like the highly anticipated biscoe-yahn matchup is finally happening.

maybe hysell next year...

I cried when my name wasn't on that list. Honestly it is a relief. I have another doctor's appointment today. I plan on playing at Loriella but i'm in constant pain. I think I have some bone-on-bone contact.

looks like there is a possibilty of coach Jammer suiting up and taking the field.

I cried when my name wasn't on that list. Honestly it is a relief. I have another doctor's appointment today. I plan on playing at Loriella but i'm in constant pain. I think I have some bone-on-bone contact.



you're still on our team, just like discraft.

Ours probably isn't in the correct order and we added Toby Henderson as our last Open spot.

...Sugar Schack has cast down the gauntlet according to Zilla: "I haven't ever lost in match play and don't intend to start now"



If you don't believe him, just check out the 1030 he shot at the Cracked Plastic when the temp was minus ten and the winds were howling at 35 mph. Plus he was on team Peaches n Cream at the DITCH, Michigan's team tourney, in September and stomped down nearly all the other one-seeds. Sugar and I will be rolling into town Thursday morning, it looks like, and hopefully camping at the Grange, weather and Trepasso permitting. See y'all in a few weeks.

UNITTY!!!!

Team Charlotte has a new name. Not sure if it's secret now. But I got a fever. And the only cure is....

http://charlottedgc.com/images/VTI/VTI_cowbell.jpg

Team Spotsy:

Open 1 Hunter Todd
Open 2 Chase Rivera
Open 3 Brandon Kilby
Open 4 Derek Britt
Am 1 Kyle Bauman
Am 2 Owen Seely
Master 1 Jeff Shattuck
Master 2 Mike Petro
Woman Kristen Wiedle

Blue Ridge has Woods instead of Gonzalez

and RADL has Yoo instead of Howard now.

Anybody know Climo's number? PM me. :p

Vegas odds

RADL 6-1 Former multiple champs
Seneca 7-1 Former champs
Unit-eat 7-1 Former champs
PADE 8-1 Always make playoffs
Home 10-1 Hired guns--they better do some cleanup to stay exempt
Bayville 10-1 More hired guns
Baltimore 14-1 Zink--he's not a man, he's a machine
Charlotte 16-1 Playing a foreign course
Calvert 16-1 Hired guns
NOVA 20-1 No Ronnie, Tommy or Erik
Blue Ridge 24-1 Looks like NOVA vs. Blue RIdge in the POM--That sucks
Spotsy 72-1 bridgemakers

blue ridge is a bargain at 24-1.

reminder to captains: official team names and shirt orders are due today!!!! need the team names whether you want shirts or not!!

i am thinking we are a **** good bargain ant 16-1 odds

See I told ya...Sugar is the man
what up fellas glad to be back on the boards.
VTI here we come

welcome back great lizard.

UNITTY!!!!


WOOOOOOOOO

UNITTY!!!!


WOOOOOOOOO

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Dreamt about VTI last night. weird. Got no clue what the course is like, but it sure as heck ain't like it was in the dream. And hopefully I won't be late without my pants on either. :)

all hat and no pants??

Got no clue what the course is like


there is hole by hole pictures and descriptions about 10 pages back

More Specifically page 6

found em. thanks!

UNITTY!!!!


WOOOOOOOOO

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



Paddle quicker, I here banjos.

Dreamt about VTI last night. weird. Got no clue what the course is like...


It's a lefty course.

Wooooo hooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE GREATEST TOURNAMENT IN ALL THE LAND!!!

BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUE RIIIIIIIIDGE!!!!

Only 16 days away! Give it up for Biscoe for putting this thing on. THANKS BISCOE!

what am I giving up?




U N I T T Y !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i am so ready to play this event and course now, maybe i should just come up a week early so i can learn the course and help Team Cowbell keep the trophy in NC, but we will move it to the Mecca of Disc Golf

Team Cowbell is def. keeping that trophy in NC and bringing it to its new home.

see that is what i am thinking too monty, it would just fit so well in town to give us one more thing that would call Mecca Home

I hate to hurt all yalls feelings but I think it will stay in VA this year.

Good luck with that!!!

Captain,there is no luck to it.Its all SKILL...........

I hate to hurt all yalls feelings but I think it will stay in VA this year.



I agree.

Until we cross the state border with it on 95.

thanks for wishing us good luck with our bringing the trophy home with us Captain!!

man some carolina feelings are going to be hurt when that VA trophy stays where it belongs in VA