The oldest continuously held amateur only event enters its 25 th year.

To celebrate we have decided to present this year's Am Crosstown as an A Tier.

Details will follow.

All volunteers are welcome.

All vendors who would like to make a large impact on the finest amateurs (and soon to be pros) east of the Mississippi can contact me at [email protected]

Thanks,
Craig

:cool:

A Tier - AWESOME!!

Can't wait to help!

when is it going to be and whats the difference w/ it being an A tier this year?

That's awesome Craig! Great news to hear. Will the event still be the second weekend in March? Same courses and such?

any chance on zebulon and buckhorn for the ams?

All divisions to include expert, and grandmaster :)

Mini Thumber

That's awesome Craig! Great news to hear. Will the event still be the second weekend in March? Same courses and such?



Yes, March 8 and 9.

And, yes. But, we'll use Zebulon more.

Craig

All divisions to include expert, and grandmaster :)

Mini Thumber



Expert doesn't exist. So I hear.

Although this year I can play you Grand Masters (and kick butt) we have never had a Masters division or Womens division field large enough to warrant adding other age or gender divisions.

A solution to that is to have all Am oldsters and Am women within the sound of my typing sign up (early so you aren't shut out) for the Masters and Adv Womens divisions that we do offer.
When we have lots in those divisions, we can subdivide. Like amoebae...

Craig

I am not sure I tottally understand all the divisions numbers myself. Have only heard stories of changes.
Mini Thumbers

http://www.pdga.com/documents/2008/08PlayerDivisionsGrid.pdf
Looks like its time to start baggin again

And, yes. But, we'll use Zebulon more.

Craig


Craig,
thanks for getting this thread started and it is grat that you are making this prestigious event and A-teir, way to go!! just wanted to see what you meant by using Zeb More?? do you mean 3 rounds there and 1 round at ceader hills?? thanks for any info.

Wasup there pullcarts? Are you going to be competing against me at this A-tier? Is that what your saying?

Yo Craig aka Fanny-Sack McGee,what does more at Zebulon mean?

Thanks to MTL for offering up his help for the tourny!! Any other Pros going to volunteer? How about Kyle Jackson or is he going to try to win this again?

BenWilly,

If I am in town (not at a PDGA event) I typically assist with all Am Crosstowns.

Kirk

what will the field size be limited to? (in other words... do we need to watch the registration opening on this one in regards to it filling too fast?)

Have a safe trip Captain.
I have not ever has doubted your dedication.

what will the field size be limited to? (in other words... do we need to watch the registration opening on this one in regards to it filling too fast?)



144

Stack,
This is one of the best ongoing tournaments I have been a part of. And now its an A tier. It's hard to beat playing Zebulon and Cedar Hills is ok.

BenWilly, you'll hafta wait and see, I imagine so since the new rating cutoff is 970 for adv.

Looks like Carter is figuring out the value of a $ :eek: :D;)

I guess that means I could play both the Am Crosstown and the Pro Crosstown....lmao

you should play kirk.

a third place finish in advanced would be a great way for you to get confidence at the pro crosstown

Robert,

Stop talking!!!

Now that's comedy...lol

Kirk

Kirk, you wouldn't beat me anyway! :D:D:D

Craig,

Good luck with that!!!

Kirk

didnt Kirk just beat you this weekend?

you should play kirk.

a third place finish in advanced would be a great way for you to get confidence at the pro crosstown


Also if Kirk can finish in the top 2 then he can play on the coveted RADL VTI team. i hear they won last year becasue of their am's :D

I will get to play in the VTI no matter what. The only way I won't is if I pick a player stronger than myself to play in my place. I have actually considered this scenario.

i am hoping like hell you did not think i was serious :D

I will get to play in the VTI no matter what. The only way I won't is if I pick a player stronger than myself to play in my place. I have actually considered this scenario.



i have considered the same thing sort of, actually i have considered coaching one team (home) and playing for another. (spotsy) :D

Not at all BWD.

And, I am hoping you make the Team again in 2008.

didnt Kirk just beat you this weekend?



anyone who doesn't play in my division doesnt beat me and I don't beat them.

It won't help you any. You still won't be part of a winning team....lmao

Not at all BWD.

And, I am hoping you make the Team again in 2008.


that is assured!!

i know this is the crosstown thread, but what's the chance of Charlotte getting a VTI team this year?

It is not a Crosstown thread
It is a RADL thread
Those Charlotte boys can't hang with Raleighwood
Like to see them enter & try though

I count three out of town Charlotte guys in the top ten last year, who either have never played the courses, or do once a year.

For the Charlotte Open, I don't see anyone within the top 15 from Raleigh. :eek:

Side bet for the Crosstown Ben????????? I'm your huckleberry! ;)

I count three out of town Charlotte guys in the top ten last year, who either have never played the courses, or do once a year.

For the Charlotte Open, I don't see anyone within the top 15 from Raleigh. :eek:

Side bet for the Crosstown Ben????????? I'm your huckleberry! ;)




Three months out and it's gettin' <font color="red"> HOT. </font>

C

Looking forward to playing with you this year Pullcarts!!

Well Charlotte has a team for VTI Craig so we will see but a side bet can be arranged there Doc.

How bout a bet for the AM X-town, best overall score between you and I for a C-note? :eek:

This Is Not The Official Am Crosstown Flyer!

I hope to have the flyer out very soon. I still have to nail down the location for the Friday check in.

The "mail to" address will be released with the flyer. PayPal will be available TBA.

We hope to add payout to Adv Men and Adv Women. Let hear it ladies. Road trip?

Also, I'm trying to put a Saturday night players party together (RADL volunteers Please PM me) and maybe cash doubles on Friday afternoon- if there is any interest.

The basics...

The 25 th Amateur Dogwood Crosstown Classic
PDGA A-tier and North Carolina Series event

March 8-9, 2008

Divisions offered: Advanced Men, Advanced Women, Advanced Men Masters and Intermediate Men. The field will be limited to 144.

Entry fee: All Advanced Divisions $60.00. Intermediate Men $50.00

You must be a current PDGA member to compete.
Per the PDGA, �for all Super Tour (A Tier) events, only PDGA current members will be allowed to compete, regardless of division. If a player in question does not provide irrevocable proof of their membership (2008 membership card, 2008 soft card, or name on the list of current members provided by the PDGA office) then annual dues will be collected before the player is allowed to participate�
Please join the PDGA early and avoid the hassle.

We will be using Zebulon Community Park in Zebulon and Cedar Hills Rotary Park in Raleigh. You will be given your course assignment at check in.

You must check in on Friday March 7 There will be no Saturday check-in. You cannot compete if you do not check in on Friday. The RADL �store� will be available for you to select your player�s pack. Arrive early for best selection.
Location To Be Determined. Don't ask. I'm working on a place near Cedar Hills.

All players under 18 must have a waiver signed by a parent or guardian. TBA

Mandatory players meeting on Saturday morning at 9:15 at your course.

The field will be cut after the third round and the top half of each division (up to 72 players) will play a final round in Zebulon.

Contact: Craig Ramsdell 712 Coventry Ct Raleigh, NC 27609 919-787-7852 [email protected]

This Is Not The Official Am Crosstown Flyer!
Again, when all details are nailed down, the official flyer will be released an registration can begin.

Thanks,
Craig

You can't please them all.

So, Richard and I have decided (again) to please as many as possible.

We'll do both. Friday night check in (location TBA) and Saturday at the courses.

We would recommend Friday night (for those who can make it) because your Saturday morning will be much smoother and you can redeem your voucher then. If you want to.

Saturday check in will end before the players meeting (exact time TBA). If you check in on Saturday you can redeem your voucher Sunday afternoon in Zebulon.

I hope to nail down the Friday night check in location (near Cedar Hills). Then I can rework the flyer and get it out to the area courses/TDs and posted here.

We'll also decide who will play where. Registration will close on March 1.

Thanks,
Craig

Captain, can I crash at your house for this event?

Craig and Captain, can we have the check-in at Captain's crib? :D

Craig,

You are always welcome at my place. No need to ask. Just let me know when to watch out for you.

Kirk

All,
Sponsorship is starting to come in. We have received a nice box of merchandise form Marshall Street Disc Golf and a heavy check from Precision Quartz Watch and Jewelry Repair.

The flyer should be out soon.

Craig

great to hear about the sponsors! ... also just curious if this is going to be a discraft or innova 'brand' event (or both?)

great to hear about the sponsors! ... also just curious if this is going to be a discraft or innova 'brand' event (or both?)



Innova has always been a major sponsor. Thanks again, Harold.
I've written to Discraft. No response yet.

Craig

That is b-cuz
INNOVA ROCKS!
AM X-TOWN A-TIER
Let's do this thang!!

The Raleigh Area Disc League presents

The 25th Amateur Dogwood Crosstown Classic

PDGA Super Tour A Tier and North Carolina Points Series disc golf event

March 8-9, 2008

Be a part of the longest running amateur only disc golf tournament.

Divisions offered &amp; Entry fees: Advanced Men $60, Advanced Women $60, Advanced Men Masters $60 and Intermediate Men $50.

The field will be limited to 72 Adv. Men
and a combined total of 72 Adv. Women, Adv. Men Masters and Int Men.

To enter send your check (payable to RADL) along with your
Name, PDGA no., Division, Address, Phone no., E-mail to:

Am Crosstown 4716 Triple Creek Dr. Raleigh, NC 27616

More information &amp; PayPal will be available at raleighdiscgolf.com (http://www.raleighdiscgolf.com/radl/)
Registration closes on March 1. There will be no refunds after March 1.
All players under 18 must have a waiver signed by a parent or guardian available at raleighdiscgolf.com (http://www.raleighdiscgolf.com/radl/) .

You must be a current PDGA member to compete. *

Please join the PDGA early and avoid the hassle and extra fee!
Renew here (http://pdga.org/renew/)
Or, if you've never joined. (http://pdga.org/join/)
There will be a $10 RADL processing fee (given to the event) for any membership application processed by RADL at check-in for this event.

Course assignments. Adv. Men: Saturday - 1st and 2nd rounds at Zebulon Community Park, ZCP (http://maps.yahoo.com/index.php#mvt=m&amp;lat=35.817375&amp;lon=-78.309846&amp;mag=3&amp;q1=401%20S%20Arendell%20Ave%2C%20Z ebulon%2C%20NC%2027597) in Zebulon, NC, Sunday - third round at Cedar Hills Rotary Park CHCC (http://maps.yahoo.com/index.php#mvt=m&amp;lat=35.858221&amp;lon=-78.628656&amp;mag=3&amp;q1=5600%20Sweetbriar%20St%2C%20Ral eigh%2C%20NC%2027609) in Raleigh, NC.
Adv. Women, Adv. Men Masters &amp; Int. Men: Saturday - 1st and 2nd rounds at Cedar Hills, Sunday - third round at Zebulon.
Mandatory players meeting Saturday morning at 9:15 am at your course

Check-in. Recommended check in is on Friday March 7 at St Mark�s UM church, 4801 Six Forks Rd. in Raleigh St Mark's (http://maps.yahoo.com/index.php#mvt=m&amp;lat=35.845675&amp;lon=-78.644263&amp;mag=3&amp;tt=st%20marks%20raleigh%20nc&amp;tp=1&amp; q1=4801%20Six%20Forks%20Road%20Raleigh%20nc) (near Cedar Hills) between the hours of 5 and 9 pm. The RADL �store� will be available for you to select your player�s pack. Arrive early for best selection.

Saturday check in at your course (see u above) closes at 9:15 am. Those who check in on Saturday may redeem your players pack voucher Sunday afternoon in Zebulon.

The field will be cut after the third round and the top half of each division (up to 72 players) will play a final fourth round in Zebulon.

Contact: Craig Ramsdell 712 Coventry Ct Raleigh, NC 27609 919-787-7852 [email protected]

* Per the PDGA, �for all Super Tour (A Tier) events, only PDGA current members will be allowed to compete, regardless of division. If a player in question does not provide irrevocable proof of their membership (2008 membership card, 2008 soft card, or name on the list of current members provided by the PDGA office) then annual dues will be collected before the player is allowed to participate�.

We have secured a motel for all who are in need.
Econolodge (http://www.econolodge.com/ires/en-US/html/HotelInfo?hotel=NC487)
The Econo lodge on Capital Blvd (at I-440) is offering rooms for up to four (4) people for $60.89 per night. This price is about $6 to $11 off the best rates I could find. Seems like a deal, especially for 4 people.
Details...
1 Nice third floor rooms- interior corridor entry and no one walking over your head.
2 No smoking only.
3 you must reserve with a credit card
4 When you call mention the Am Dogwood Crosstown (Frisbee) special.
5 You must make reservations by march 6.

Craig

Hey, I'm up in Northern Virginia, but wouldn't want to miss the 25th Anniversary tourney for Raleigh. Because of work, I don't think I can get down there for Friday checkin -- I'll probably head down around 4 a.m. Saturday morning -- but rather than get a hotel, I would prefer to crash with a local on Saturday night, if anyone has a patch of floor they'd be willing to lend out -- I'll bring my own sleeping bag, etc... I'm 29, don't smoke, and will be glad to donate a couple of bombers of excellent microbrew as thanks for a place to crash. Anytime I'm out of town, I prefer to get to know the locals rather than hiding away in a hotel room.

Even better would be if anyone from the Raleigh team competing in the VTI has some space. I'll be on the NoVA team as one of the ams competing at the VTI and would be glad to get to know a few raleigh folks before you venture up this way for the tourney. I'd also love to get your pointers on the raleigh courses -- I've played disc golf in other parts of NC, but never Raleigh area, which is sad. I used to live in Durham, but that was before I knew what a disc was... back in the old, ignorant days before disc golf became a regular part of life.

Anyway, let me know if you think you've got some space for the Saturday night of the tournament. Thanks much.

You can stay at my place.

My house is open to all Ams that need a place to stay for the Am Crosstown weekend.

Kirk

Has the pool house been claimed yet?

Dave,

The pool house is yours.

Just stay out of the Dog Fish Heads!!!

Kirk

you know when i come i always make sure there are more 90's and 60's in the fridge than before i showed up!! (showed up may be the poorest sentence i have ever constructed) thanks Kirk

hmmm... haynes home course is right down the street from a dogfish alehouse.

After the Wayne-O incident in the pool house, I don't know if would want to stay there

You are misinformed grasshopper. The incident you are referring to was in the playroom with about a dozen other people attempting to sleep.

hmmm, well then good call big wave!

I'll never enjoy hanging in your playroom again.

Relax Grasshopper!!!

There was an air mattress protecting the floor and the carpet has been steam cleaned since then.

Imagine the horrifying images that are forever burned into the retinas of Sheffie and the Messiah!!!

hearing that story from benson is AWESOME.

lets hear the story...

not exactly appropriate for the message board....

Not exactly appropriate for my playroom either....lmao

lmao

I dont think it was appropriate for anywhere

I would disagree Grasshopper.

It would be appropriate if there were no witnesses, no evidence and not at my house....lol

but with.....

still?

but with.....

still?



you know you want<font color="pink"> some </font>, tivvle

5000 Watts-on...i will tell you next time i see ya....hope that will be soon.......as for that night...wow sometimes that incident creaps into my mind( yes creaps is the correct spelling here) and i just go LIMP.

LMAO

well said.

but with.....

still?



you know you want<font color="pink"> some </font>, tivvle




I think I just threw up

Not sure if I am going to attend anymore because of MTL.

We have secured a motel for all who are in need.
The Econo lodge on Capital Blvd (at I-440) is offering rooms for up to four (4) people for $60.89 per night. This price is about $6 to $11 off the best rates I could find. Seems like a deal, especially for 4 people.
Details...
1 Nice third floor rooms- interior corridor entry and no one walking over your head.
2 No smoking only.
3 you must reserve with a credit card
4 When you call mention the Am Dogwood Crosstown (Frisbee) special.
5 You must make reservations by march 6.

Craig



All,
When I was first was contacted by the representative of this property a did a quick search for reviews of this motel. The search showed reviews that were fair to good. I have since been informed that the majority of reviews tend to be poor.

From the rep.: "The property has a long history of drug dealers and prostitutes. I did not know this until after a drug raid recently
after reading a police report

Although I am very disappointed the owners have not fixed up the property-in their defense I don't believe they knew the extent of the problems when they took over the property. I was hired to bring in a better class of clients.
In the hotels defense they have hired an off duty cop for the weekends to try and keep a lid on things."

I cannot recommend this property at this time. If you have reservations here you should be able to cancel them. I you choose to stay here I hope that you have a good experience.
I apologize if this causes any disruption to your travel plans.

I will be searching for several moderately priced motels that will allow easy access to the highways that lead to both Zebulon and Cedar Hills.

If you have any recommendations please post them here.

Thanks,
Craig

is Paypal up yet? tried going to http://www.raleighdiscgolf.com/radl/ and http://www.raleighdiscgolf.com and they appear to be down.

Not sure if I am going to attend anymore because of MTL.



Oh Use MTL as an excuse not to come......LAME......Such the trend these days. No one cares if you come or not.

Not very mature don't ya think

how many people registered already?

is Paypal up yet? tried going to http://www.raleighdiscgolf.com/radl/ and http://www.raleighdiscgolf.com and they appear to be down.



Have you tried mailing a check?

who writes checks in 2008? who owns stamps?

is Paypal up yet? tried going to http://www.raleighdiscgolf.com/radl/ and http://www.raleighdiscgolf.com and they appear to be down.



Both links seem to work fine.
Has anyone else had trouble?

I now have a stack of soft cards and PDGA renewal forms. If anyone needs to sign up before we add the service fee let me know and I'll tell you where to find me.
[email protected]
919-787-7852 leave a message.

Craig

They were down earlier. Up now.

yup...site is up now and here's the link to paypal for whoever else needs it...
http://www.radl.biz/paypal/amxtown08.html

and like BWD said... 'who writes checks?'

just sent Paypal... I'm in

btw... (not BWD)... just to clarify... the Adv division will play Zebulon 1st and 2nd rounds on Saturday... Cedar Hills Sunday morning and if you make the cut you go back to Zebulon for the final round (correct?)

CANT WAIT!!!

Correct

C

cool thanks... and any idea on prereg list? not trying to rush ya... a few have been asking.

Mike will put up the list when he recovers from Buckhorn.

Craig

Thanks Mike for the pre-reg!!

Craig,

I'm trying to work the Crosstown into my schedule and was wondering if you had checked "the rules" to see if/where I can play? I have cashed in my last 2 Pro Masters events, but my current player rating is 932. I see Captain Kirk is signed up so my guess is it's OK, but I wanted to confirm before I sent in $.

RD

You could even play Advanced Master since you're under 935.

You could even play Advanced Master since you're under 935.



I can hear Rocky now..... "BAAAAGGGGGGERRRR" :D

Absolutly, expecially today after I seen the way your team abused them poor guy's from VA Tech. What happened to your rating to lower it so much, your much better than 922. Real bad tnmt somewhere. This is the Crosstown, not Cross dresser LOL

Mini Thumber, Coach Ks Advisor, and a pretty good rec player. I think! :)

You could even play Advanced Master since you're under 935.



Like Chuck said. (He's like the NSA. You never see them, they just pop up.)

If Hack, Craig D. and Crow out of Fayet-Nam show up you might have to work for the win.

Can you hear Rocky... "ARRRGgggg"!!!!!


Craig

Ill just move to Intermediate where maybe I wont be DFL, and at least be competitive. I mean really, according to the PDGA, I am a Rec player. So, that would be movin up.

Mini Thumber, Graduate of Novice University ;)

What happened to your rating to lower it so much, your much better than 922. Real bad tnmt somewhere.



More like just a bad couple of years :D

I used to think I played "smart" disc golf.... and tried to minimize the screwups. Of course taking a triple circle 10 on hole 9 at Buckhorn in 2006 proved that theory wrong. And I'm still kicking myself for the double circle 8 on hole 18 from the shorts in the first round this year. Going from 5 under standing on 17's tee to 1 over standing on hole 1's tee SUCKED.

If Hack, Craig D. and Crow out of Fayet-Nam show up you might have to work for the win.

Craig



No doubt. I seem to remember Byron usually shows up for the Crosstown and has won Adv Master 3 of the last 4 years. With a 962 rating, he's definitely got game for a fellow old guy. He &amp; Craig both kicked my butt in 2006 when I last played the Crosstown. I guess the Adv Master field might be Bagger-iffic this year.....

im back for my second title of the crosstown. hope theres more competetion this year.

Post deleted by Big_Wave_Dave

Exactly, why I movin to Intermediate, and thats since thier isn't a Rec division. Player the Jos Who, thought I played well, and didn't even cash.

Craig, move me to Intermediate

Mini Thumber

It will be hard to beat kirk at zeb. However, CH is a place where anyone can shoot their worst or best rounds. I think im going to play Int...... @ the players party.

Kozak

Craig, move me to Intermediate

Mini Thumber



Can do Rocky, but you should know the jokes are funnier in the Masters Div.

Craig

im back for my second title of the crosstown. hope theres more competetion this year.



:eek:

I thought you went pro...


Craig

Prozak...

im back for my second title of the crosstown. hope theres more competetion this year.



:eek:

I thought you went pro...


Craig



he did, then the BOD of the ORG did something stupid.

this may be mentioned somewhere but I cant find it... what layouts of each course will be used?

Does Cedar Hills play like the online course guide on the RADL website? --&gt; http://www.radl.biz/Courses/CEDARHILLS/main.htm

and does Zeb just have the one config like on the website as well? http://www.radl.biz/Courses/ZEBULON/main.htm

looking forward to it!!!

Yes and Probably

thanks! :P

pm/call me about today

Was @ Cedar Hills today... playing for the 'pro' tees (aka actual teepads) is this the layout the tourney will use?

is it always this windy in Raleigh ;)

got your message Schweb thanks... im off to Zebulon!

Was @ Cedar Hills today... playing for the 'pro' tees (aka actual teepads) is this the layout the tourney will use?

is it always this windy in Raleigh ;)

got your message Schweb thanks... im off to Zebulon!



The long (all concete) pads will be used for the Crosstown except for the long pad on #10 at Cedar Hills.

It is only this windy in Feb. and March...

Craig

thanks for the info Craig... so 10 plays for the slightly shorter pad then eh? the long pad was kinda fun!

and i played Buckhorn (for the first time) this evening instead of Zeb again... had to do a 'speed' round to get out before they locked the gates.... fun course and really made me wish I coulda made the tourney this year

FYI
So far sponsorship has added almost $1500 worth of merch to the Crosstown.
Sign up today RADL/Am Crosstown flyer and PayPal (http://www.raleighdiscgolf.com/radl/)

Craig

Yea, there has to be several more Pros that want that plastic.. :D

$1500?! good stuff!

and pros doc?

nevermind... i see 3 or 4 that you might be talking about. Cant fault them for playing within the rules. and with only 51 on the prereg list (only 24) in ADV the more the merrier! Look forward to the competition!

Word! No fault'n anybody, just bust'n Kirk Yoo's chops, in particular, and the others in general. My money's on Lil' Wiggy anyway...

Craig, watch out for the NC discgolf THIEF that has been taking discs. I don't know the details from Buckhorn, but I do know the painful details from Richlands. If you have golfers registered that have been to both Buckhorn and Richlands, and they come to your tournament, WATCH THEM, because someone is a total loser and needs to be "weeded" out. For the time being, I hope the TDs can bring light prior to the events for people to secure their plastic and watch out for suspicious bag browsing...

whats the info for Doubles on Friday? Zeb? Time/$?

stack how many questions can you ask on how many threads a day :D:D i'm just kiddin buddy see ya this weekend in another state

Just trying to get all the info in order.

Cant wait for this weekend... and the next one after that and the next one after that and the next one... and maybe the next one... busy month!

CYA in a couple days!

Thanks Stack, your Questions usually help all of us, expecially me bro.

Mini Thumber

OK, isn't it about time Matt Kulp move up to advance, I mean really. If not for his last round at Buckhorn, he would have finished top 3 in advance, otherwise he got 6th or so.I mean really Matt, move up Bagger, oops, can I say that.

Mini Thumber, Graduate of Novice University, moved up to Intermediate :p

. If not for his last round at Buckhorn, he would have finished top 3 in advance, otherwise he got 6th or so


Rocky,
didn't the ams play all 4 rounds from the shorts?

OUCH, thanks Wave, my bad. He still needs to move up. He is that good. Thanks for the correction. I am just trying to keep it real. He finished great at the Sneeky Pete, he is a good player. Guess he likes a guaruntee top finish. Sorry brother. This is why we all need player ratings, so players can't hide, what say you.

Mini Thumber, sometimes a good rec player :)

No worries Rock. He played 927 golf at buckhorn which is not going to cut it in the "new" advanced division. but i understand where you are coming from. i found it funny that someone who won this event 2 years ago then played pro all last year and is now coming back to an am event and had the nerve to talk about hoping the competition was going to be better. now that made me lol

Yeah the Discussion Board helps people
stick their foot in their mouth! !
That was such an ODD statement. WOW

Wave, I remember when this started, players said they will stay where they were, really. Advance would not mve down, and Intermediate would stay the same. It mostly has, it's those that have no rating that upsets the balance. I can tell when I play well by the numbers, how do they tell. If i shoot 30 points above my rating for 4 rounds, I should at least get a date with Lindsey Lohan , right?. If a 930ish unrated player shoots poorly, and still wins, he should move up. Bagger plays 2 tournaments, I play oh 16ish, and he has more 900+ rated rounds than I. Where's my sign, and Icontinue to smile. Yeah baby, because of the comoradie

Mini Thumber

Wave, He was trying to come from behind at bockhorn, and it cost him. If he would have shot 915 that last, what would he have rated?

Mini Thumber

you can only not have a player rating for so long buddy. i would not worry to much my freind he will be where he belongs soon enough. and like you have said before it is all fun and games either way. CAN'T WAIT FOR THE CROSSTOWN!

Jason Hill will win intermediate, with or without any baggers. ;)

Terry Gallops will win int.

Hands down no doubt in my mind.

Allan Azali or Jon Rochester gets my vote for INT

How 'bout Advanced?! Looking back @ years past there are quite a few who have finished among the top before that will be making an appearance... should make for a good run.

I know Allan A and Jon, but havnt met Terry.

Allan A and Jon always pose a good threat...

Others that will be there on Sunday include, Mark Johnson, Nick Johnson, Doug Cline, TJ Fowler, Jared Secor, Matt Kulp, Danny Hill, etc... All could play very well.

I definetly think that NC has the best Intermediates in the world.

Just to clear things up...Jason "Lefty Magic" Hill is still the favorite.

Advanced???

The favs...
Kirk Yoo
Brian Baldwin "heard it here first"
Stack
Jemery Bond "how is this dude an am???"
Jeff Baldwin
Monty
Itsy Bitsy Wiggy
Jerm??? is he playin
Craig W.
Carter
Derf
Big Wave
Jeff Yahn

In a perfect world I would like to see these dudes play great, all good golfers/people:
Snapp
M. Norris
Ben Williams
Myself
Max

Well, the others I havent played with or just dont know...Needless to say we have a great amount of great AMs. Hope we have a great following at this year and next years Worlds...There will be a large group of Greensboroians headed out the KC, so lets please represent.

i'm planning on worlds this year and I think we'll have a good # coming from Charlotte... just have to wait till June 1st to be sure I get in.

Jemery Bond "how is this dude an am???"



Jeremy broke his foot pretty severely last year. he dropped a huge peice of rubber ((from what i was told it weighed several hundred pounds (he works in a warehouse)) on his foot breaking several bones. so he was unable to play for a long time and is still trying to get back to the level of golf he was at last year about this same time. Jeremy is a Great guy and i do not think he is trying to take advantage of the system what so ever. (not that i think you where making that insinuation tyson)

yeah Jeremy was at the top of his game and his foot injury really hurt him.

He played pretty well at buckhorn in open and it looks like his game is coming back up to where it is.

Didnt know that about Bond :o(thanks for the answer), definelty the most encouraging player I have ever played with. Always takes the time to ask how you played. The only reason I said why is he not pro, are the videos I have seen of him threading needles at last year's VTI.

As far as anyone in the tourney taking advantage of the system, it will take high rated rounds to win this tourney regardless of if they are rated 900 to 970.

I welcome that challenge and just want to do better then last year's performance :D. Plus see good golf from others in my groups.

Glad to have Bond back competing.

Also Historically this is a "baggin" event alot like worlds and Bowling Green. winning the crosstown in N.C. is an extremely prestigious accomplishment so you see alot of people who qualify under the PDGA standards but don't neccesarily play am play this tournament to win the title.

look at 2006 for example Scotty Faison (had not played in a long time) Glen Warfel and Matt Buono where all playing pro at that time but they played down to get that big win.

Last year i think compared to recent years was the best example of a true Am tourney. and look at the top 5. all of them outside of myself have all become really competitive pro's. now this year with the PDGA restructuring the rating requirment we have the most competitive field maybe ever. i personally love the field this year. the more competition the better is how i look at it. but we do have by my count 6 pro's and one defending champion from 2 years ago coming back and already talking smack to ams :D should be a blast and is still anybody's game.

that is just my take on it. and i love it!

Thanks for the kind words Tyson/Stack you just put the hex on me and "JJ". :D Actually I think everyone needs to watch out for Nick "Sparkplug" Johnson. His putting is getting deadly and his head is more in the game now. JJ and I are looking forward to just playing some good courses and more importantly escaping the wives for a few days!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! No Wives Allowed!!!

For those of you that don't know, my name was originally put on the pre-reg list as a joke to stir up conversation on the message board.

However, the more I think about it the more I am interested in playing. It would be 1 more PDGA to add to my list for the year and I am planning on being there all day both days anyway. Also, there are about 20 players that will be staying at my house for the weekend.

How funny would it be if I won. That would be 15 years between Am Crosstown wins for me....lol

Kirk

Hey Dave, I was rated 922 at the time :)
But you are right, I had not played in a while and the X Town was a great event to use to get back into the swing of things. The funny thing is, that 2nd place finish was my best ever finish at the X Town. I think before that, I had never finished top 10 in all my am years.

Just to let everyone know....

Three Rivers Disc Golf Series will be at Zebulon Community Park on Sunday March 2.

Entry: $10 Pro
$5 Am
optional $1 ace pool($113 plus)

Signup starts 9:30, first round tee 10:00. We will be playing the same layout as the Am and Pro Crosstown both rounds.

Come on out for a warmup. Also Three Rivers Disc Golf series will gladly sponsor a hole at the Am Crosstown.

Hey Dave, I was rated 922 at the time :)
But you are right, I had not played in a while and the X Town was a great event to use to get back into the swing of things. The funny thing is, that 2nd place finish was my best ever finish at the X Town. I think before that, I had never finished top 10 in all my am years.


scotty that was obviously not indicitive of your skill seeing how you shot like 990 golf but regardless in 2004 and 2003 your most recent competitive rounds where all in the pro division. thus making my point. and yes you did rebound quite well and have been playing great golf since

I really cannot believe that any of you did not predicte The Mini Thumber to be in the Mix. I am appalled. On second thought, No I'm not. But, I will have the most fun, and probably be the quietest, not to disturb anyone.

Mini Thumber, a Pretty Good Rec Player, Graduate of Novice University :)

not me i am punching that score board every chance i get. it is amazing how loud that thing can be.

Thanks for the compliment Dave. I just like joking and reminding people that I was 922 rated lol.
I will actually be the the X Town this year, but as a volunteer. It should be fun. How ironic is it that the first event I get to go to in 2008 will be because I am helping out. But I will be making my first trip to the Castle this year.

No doubt. and you have always been such a great supporter of N.C. Disc golf. yeah i think the best kicker was that 63 point jump in your rating after your triumphant (msp) return :cool:

I was 922 rated



thats my fault for running the ECU tournament.

Is the Am Part of the X town full? I have spring break and that might be a good chance for me to get to NC to play some golf.

I know i aint registered yet, but someone could pick me to win. thanks for the non ego boost yall. Kirk, i would love to play with you in my division, since you targeted me to beat last weekend

For those of you that don't know, my name was originally put on the pre-reg list as a joke to stir up conversation on the message board.

However, the more I think about it the more I am interested in playing. It would be 1 more PDGA to add to my list for the year and I am planning on being there all day both days anyway. Also, there are about 20 players that will be staying at my house for the weekend.

How funny would it be if I won. That would be 15 years between Am Crosstown wins for me....lol

Kirk



Nothing wrong with that Kirk... i think its good you'll be playing. As someone said... the more competition the merrier. Plus doesnt the winner of am crosstown get free entry to the pro crosstown? not saying this is the reason you're doing this but that would be a sound investment right there! ;)

Kirk, it will be great having you around playing or not.

mini thumber, you are always the peoples champ!!! Always pullin for you buddy!

Really looking forward to this event, plus we got Duke/Carolina playin Saturday night. Going to be fun.

I'll be around too.

however, not playing, obviously. The PDGA feels I'm too good to play Am. However, Stack does not.

Is the Am Part of the X town full? I have spring break and that might be a good chance for me to get to NC to play some golf.


Chris no the Cross town is not full and we would love to have you!! there are 35 registered Advanced golfers and they are capping it at 72 advanced and 72 others so you are good to go. if you have any questions about it i will be in columbia all weekend!! can't wait to get back to earlwood.

For those in need here are a few motels in the Crosstown area. All are near the I-440 Beltline and are near Six Forks Rd (the way to Cedar Hills and US 64 bypass (to Zebulon). they are all obout $55 to $60.
I can't guarantee...

Days Inn Raleigh North Beltline
3201 Wake Forest Rd
Raleigh, NC 27609
800-804-6835

Homestead Raleigh - Northeast

2601 Appliance Ct
Raleigh, NC 27604
800-804-6835

Homestead Raleigh - North Raleigh

3531 Wake Forest Rd
Raleigh, NC 27609
800-804-6835


You want nice. I will say that at $120/night the Crabtree Marriot is nice.
Marriott Raleigh Crabtree Valley
4500 Marriott Dr
Raleigh, NC 27612
800-804-6835

Craig

also as far as hotels... i had to stay in Raleigh last week for work and got a hotel for $35 on priceline... i told someone else about this and they got a room (studio plus) for $25.

I know i aint registered yet, but someone could pick me to win. thanks for the non ego boost yall. Kirk, i would love to play with you in my division, since you targeted me to beat last weekend



Vee, I am willing to bet you won't lose to second place as much as you did in 2006.

I know i aint registered yet, but someone could pick me to win. thanks for the non ego boost yall. Kirk, i would love to play with you in my division, since you targeted me to beat last weekend



Vee, I am willing to bet you won't lose to second place as much as you did in 2006.



Vee Im pulling for you as well!!!! Take that Air Force bagging old man down!!!! :D

I have just received confirmation from the wife that I may attend this years Crosstown. Paypal on the way!

AWESOME!!! I was wondering why you werent on the list... had to wait to hear from the sponsor eh? ;)

Look forward to seeing you there!

Paypal has been sent. See yall next week, or at 3 Rivers

Alright cool dave, see ya here in cola in just a few days. hopefully we will be able to get a couple of rounds together on the lead card at Earlewood

you know that is where i will be :D i hope anyway. i had my first disc golf injury this past sunday. pulled the mess out of my right side oblique muscle jsut beneath my bottom rib. still a little tender but i think i will be able to throw by tomorrow.

forecast looks unreal for the whole weekend (hope that did not jinx anything)

Sorry to hear about the injury, Just take it easy until the tourney and rest up.

I think you just jinxed everyone for the tourney. Be prepared for rain LOL.....hope not

i'm bringin shorts regardless!!

Haha, see ya there.

Sent my check in da mail yestiddy!

TiMMAY!!!!!!!!! :D

Wave, take care of that, you're too young to start that. Your lines will get shorter. Have fun down there.

Mini Thumber, A pretty good recplayer, top 10 am crosstown, I hope

Get well Dave, I got you picked to win it!

thanks guys. i went out and threw today for the first time since sunday and i am only about 70%. still got 2 days but it still hurts to cough or sneeze. it won't be that big a deal this weekend but if i can't throw 300ft for the crosstown i will be lucky to make the cut.

Wave, take laxatives. It keeps things smooth. Do what I do and have someone else throw 300 ft for ya, LOL. Time will heal, Ibuprofin brother.

Mini Thumber ;) [list]

Thanks to all who have helped this gig. ( you know the whole 25 years and all). This event is NC's AM soap box. _

My money is on a sudden victory between Kirk &amp; Yahn. I know that kirk is thinkg about sittin out but...... that would be the card I would dnf to watch. Numbers.

Who's your dark horse ?

Does anyone know who the ebay seller specialedbarton is? He's been selling lots of 10 discs that look like they have been fished out of a pond or something. He's from charleston, SC. So if anyone has lost any discs at Trophy Lakes or most likely Hampton Park take a look. It might all be on the up and up, however, he has sold alot of discs and is selling at least 30 more right now that are all used and that is alot of discs to be selling that are all his. Hope all is good and these are not discs that were found and not returned. Go to ebay and type in "discraft lot of 10" and take a look to see if you recognize any if it is not on the up and up.

Sorry to hear about your injury Dave. WE don't need a long injuried player list.

Take care.

Rock, You'll have more fun with us AOF's!!! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Whats up Raleigh Disc Golfers. I am making the trip up to play in the tournament next week and was wondering if someone can tell me if there is a place to camp out up there. Also if someone has a GPS and can post the coordinates for the Zebulon course that would be much appreciated. I am coming up from Spartanburg, SC and have never been to Raleigh so I am coming up on the 7th and playing the courses. Any chance of them running doubles on that Friday?

Dropped a check in the mail today. Watch out for old guys with low player ratings /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

On another note.... Sidney Lowe may have set a new low for coaching today at the end of the NCSU game against Dook. So you're down 1 point and the other team has the ball and the game clock only has 4 more seconds than the shot clock. In a best case scenario, Dook misses and NCSU gets the rebound with 4 seconds left on the clock... now having to go 90 feet to score. I bet any other decent division 1 coach would have fouled somebody on the other team, because even if they make them both... you now have 20 seconds (or more) left to go down and get the bucket to tie. I bet Herb is laughing at that one and I'm sure the sports radio shows will be having a field day with that on Monday.

RD

Dropped a check in the mail today. Watch out for old guys with low player ratings /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

On another note.... Sidney Lowe may have set a new low for coaching today at the end of the NCSU game against Dook. So you're down 1 point and the other team has the ball and the game clock only has 4 more seconds than the shot clock. In a best case scenario, Dook misses and NCSU gets the rebound with 4 seconds left on the clock... now having to go 90 feet to score. I bet any other decent division 1 coach would have fouled somebody on the other team, because even if they make them both... you now have 20 seconds (or more) left to go down and get the bucket to tie. I bet Herb is laughing at that one and I'm sure the sports radio shows will be having a field day with that on Monday.

RD


No doubt Robbie, I was just shocked. Obviously you have to foul and extend the game in that situation unless you can force a quick turnover. Very hard to believe a coach at this level could make that kind of mistake. Of course the missed foul shots and untimely turnover didn't help either. Man that was going to be a nice gift for the Heels but I guess we'll have to get it done in Cameron now! That Herb song is huckin filarious though. :D

Dropped a check in the mail today. Watch out for old guys with low player ratings :smirk

RD

:D:D:D:D

EARLWOOD MAN I AM SO JEALOUS
NEXT YEAR I WANT TO BE THERE!
ANY TIPS LET ME KNOW @ THE CROSSTOWN!

ANY WEATHER UPDATES FOR THE WEEKEND?
BEN

Whats up Raleigh Disc Golfers. I am making the trip up to play in the tournament next week and was wondering if someone can tell me if there is a place to camp out up there. Also if someone has a GPS and can post the coordinates for the Zebulon course that would be much appreciated. I am coming up from Spartanburg, SC and have never been to Raleigh so I am coming up on the 7th and playing the courses. Any chance of them running doubles on that Friday?



here ya go 35.817256,-78.308229

Finally got registered. Can't wait. But would love to know a little more about the courses since I won't be able to get down there until Saturday morning -- do any locals want to give a quick review/description of the courses. I've looked at the course tours online, and those definitely help, but somehow I get more out of a good description from someone who knows a course well than I do out of a lot of pictures.

Thank you in advance. Really looking forward to my first A-tier and getting to meet some of the North Carolina disc golfers.

Yo AM Dogs!! Let's see some excitement! Let's keep this thread numero uno! My prediction for the Advanced Masters............."Pain"!!!! :D

Yo AM Dogs!! Let's see some excitement! Let's keep this thread numero uno! My prediction for the Advanced Masters............."Pain"!!!! :D



isnt pain usually a constant for just about anyone in the Masters division?! ;)

i know i'm years away from masters and i'm feeling some pain after 4 rounds @ earlewood.

Rocky III reference. Mister TiMMAY!!!!!!!

Advanced Men's Motrin division

I figured I'd post this before Rocky's "bagger" chants start. I just noticed my name on the registration in the Advanced Masters division. Since my rating is under 935 I could actually play here with my fellow old guys..... but I did sign up for Advanced and that's where I intend to play. See you youngsters at Zebulon on Saturday.

RD

Time change on Sunday. foward one hour.

Rocky III reference. Mister TiMMAY!!!!!!!



should we call you TiMMAY Lang then?!


Time change on Sunday. foward one hour.



this could be interesting... i can see some peeps rolling up an hour late!

Somebody always does! I think we are going to stay in Raleigh Saturday night just to aid in the sleep loss and the wife wants to shop. How can I say no when I am playing disc golf? :D Compromise fellas.....learn it early!

Hey Robbie, have I ever called anyone Bagger.LOL, you should stay with the gerolitol bunch, so we can be on the same course when we know the outcome of the game, and don't forget to move (your) clock back an hour.
mini thumber, President of the Bagger's :D

Based on the reg list, here are my picks

Advanced - Jeremy Koling
Adv. Women - Stephanie Greene
Adv. Masters - Plumber John (unless Hack comes)
Int - Terry Gallops

And my other top 10 finishers in advanced (in no particular order)
Carter Allen
Jeremy Bond
Rob Callender
Joe Noble
Dave Wiggins, Jr.
Jeff Yahn
Kirk Yoo
D Silver
Dave Montheith

do we still need to sign in on Friday night or are we good to do so Sat. morning. Sorry if I missed this in a previous post.

Monty,
you are good for saturday morning check in.

Robert,
You have got to be kiddin. seriously

haha sorry to leave you off bro, but you are not 100%

I agree with Dave, Robert you know if I make it that atleast Dave and I will be in the top 10

Based on the reg list, here are my picks

Advanced - Jeremy Koling
Adv. Women - Stephanie Greene
Adv. Masters - Plumber John (unless Hack comes)
Int - Terry Gallop

TiMMAY!!!!!!!!!!! :D

haha sorry to leave you off bro, but you are not 100%


wrong again. i put it pin high on hole 3 - 2 times (390 slightly uphill). Bio Freeze is amazing. also i actually think playing friday actually stretched the muscles out to aid in my recovery.

Chris i am putting you in my most likley to have the hottest last round if you come!!!!!!! :D

i was thinking i'd put you on the list as well BWD :)

haha sorry to leave you off bro, but you are not 100%


wrong again. i put it pin high on hole 3 - 2 times (390 slightly uphill). Bio Freeze is amazing. also i actually think playing friday actually stretched the muscles out to aid in my recovery.




ah didn't know you were 100%, you are now on my list. I just won't publish who I'm bumping :D

wouldn't surprise me if you are there as well stack. Good luck to all.

i know one thing is for certain the 60's will be going down smooth Satdee night in my plastic cup out by the pool at Kirk's even if it is going to be 35 degrees outside

Welcome to Lake Zebulon, where all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the disc golfers are above average ;-)

Based on the reg list, here are my picks





Old guys get no respect :D

nice Big Wiggins David... was that message brought to us by Powdermilk Biscuits? ;)

yes and the Ketchup Advisory Board, of course

Sorry Guy's I have been out for a few day's. Picked up an sinus infection that traveled to both ears and basically shut the Mini Thumber down since Friday. Missed cornwallis, missed 3 rivers in the Zeb, just now coming around. Very weak, but, I'm drinking milk and will be whole again by Sat.

Mini Thumber, Cool Vanilla Hemi Time T- 85 hrs. Not a bad Rec player, even though I didn't recieve MTL's vote. :mad:

bump

Drinking is good. It always works for me. The whole milk can be used for a tonic called a white russian, though half and half or simply cream is better.

I'll talk to you tomorrow about other options.

Looks like some WIND on Sat.
Kirk are you gonna play or
were you just playing?
I would like to see ya out there personally!

Ben,

I am most likely going to play. It depends on how my Dr. visit this afternoon goes.

Playing Am (when Pro divisions are not offered) might help me achieve the elusive 40+ PDGA events mark.

Kirk

A little slap on the Captain's bald head brings good luck!

Stan,

Just be glad I didn't resort to the infamous Sack Slap.

Kirk

yeah I know about that one.

So does Yahnnie and Cutt.

It is good for you to respect your elders. Especially when they are having a little fun at your expense. I am glad that your new disc did not hit me! That was a lot of fun.

I'm glad the disc didn't hit you as well. The beer clouded my judgment.

It was great seeing you this weekend. I have missed your presence at events.

agreed, it was fun to play with you twice and hang with ya this weekend Stan

I'm sure it wasn't fun on your end of the deal though :D

we had some pretty nasty storms come through last night in north raleigh.

Being only 2 miles from Cedar Hills and knowing that a tree got uprooted on my street, I know that Cedar Hills had at least some limbs come down.

I hope there is no significant trees down and no baskets damaged if there is.

Has anyone heard if Registration was closed? I know Craig wanted to cut it off on March First.

52 in the ADV division... not too shabby! Also cool to see Sr/Jr Wiggins in the same division

Yes, since he won last week and played very good, he got brave. Boy is he in for a whoopin. Lil Wigg, Zebulon, could be great score.

Mini Thumber, Wyatt Killer, Cool Vanilla Hemi time 66hrs

I'm assuming the reason Dave Sr. is playing advanced is b/c of travel issues with Dave Jr.

True that, makes sense to me.

Mini Thumber

right Rocky, and right MTL

Has anyone heard if Registration was closed? I know Craig wanted to cut it off on March First.



I'm IN!!!!!!!

IN da pond, that is :D

Has anyone heard if Registration was closed? I know Craig wanted to cut it off on March First.



I'm IN!!!!!!!


maybe this time you can throw off for the trophey w/ us in your hip waiders. ;)

52 in the ADV division... not too shabby! Also cool to see Sr/Jr Wiggins in the same division



It's about time that BAGGER moved up. why to Big Wigg.

I am pretty stoked about coming up and playing in the tournament this weekend. I was wondering if any of the locals would happen to have a little bit of floor space that I could crash on for the weekend. I can be emailed at [email protected] or give me a buzz at 864-237-4711. I did not see it on the flyer but is there going to be any type of players party? If not....can someone give me some suggestions of a good sports bar to watch some college basketball that would be close by.

Stay at Kirk Yoo's House there will be plenty of room there.

So is registration closed or what. I wont know if I can make it until tomorrow. Thanks

Yeah that was a nasty storm last night. A tree fell down on hole three the dogwood by the corner of the baseball fence you that tree with the rock stuck in it. It'a gone cleaned it up today still some twigs leftover but man that tree just made that hole a lot easier. Now you can bomb a hyzer shot over the baseball field just don't hit the scoreboard. But man I've been out there doing what I can but that storm just took all of my hard work and made a mess.

Chad,

You are welcome to stay at my place.

You don't need to go to a sports bar. Saturday night the 10' screen in my play room will be on the Duke / UNC game in High Def. All you need to do is bring the beer.

Kirk

beer can also be substituted as Food... ;)

With The Duke game at 2100hrs, and the clocks moving forward an hour, Sun am will be awsome.

Mini Thumber, Cool Vanilla Hemi Time Par 54 hrs

Well I am not much of a Duke fan or a UNC fan myself but I am looking forward to that basketball game. I am a Notre Dame fan myself and the Irish play at 7pm so at least we will have a good warm up game before the big game. Also Saturday is my Birthday....turning the big 30...and I am looking forward to an awesome weekend. I am heading up there early Friday morning, since I have a 4 hour drive, and playing both courses. I have never been to Raleigh so I want to check out the courses and all. If anyone is off and wants to get in a round then give me a buzz. 8642374711 (Chad).

Happy early Birfday to TThe Chad

GO DUKE!!!

you mean PUKE

OT Sloan, Sanford this Sat for local non-baggers, 10 am. Kirk Yoo's house later for Carolina duke game

Is there anything special to choose from for our players packs...i.e. Star Ont. Rocs or Champion Tee Rexs, maybe a FLX Drone or two?

Thanks for any info. Can't wait!

You know RADL with do something nice for the players! :D

How about any of the new SanMarino ROCs?

Curious...will only the Adv Men be playing on Zebulon Saturday? Other divisions at Cedar Hills? 60+ on a course should run really smoothly(sorry if this has been clarified already).

yes Mike.

Adv men - Zebulon both rounds saturday. Cedar Hill sunday morning. Cut to finals at Zebulon

All other divisions - Cedar both rounds saturday. Zebulon Sunday morning. Cut to finals at zebulon.

2 days away!!!!!!!!!

its almost go time. The weather on Saturday should be lots of fun

That advance field is loaded with great players, I predict you will need to shoot 3 950s to make the cut. Gonna be exciting to watch that leaderboard move around. Some of the advance moved south to Intermediate, can't say I blame them. The crosstown champion is going to be the one with his A game 4 sure..

Mini Thumber, Cool Vanilla Hemi Time T-41hrs. Make the cut Rock :p

its almost go time. The weather on Saturday should be lots of fun



Is is gonna be raining and windy?

Saturday they are calling for rain and strong winds in the 20's. So it ought to be fun