just to let you guys in on a secret... the person who held the tourney (TD of SoCal) where the football/bar/and proto stamed champion discs were cfr'd at was selling all the left overs for 100 bucks each... what a scam

All I've got to say on the this issue is if you were dumb enough to NOT price shop on these discs you deserve to pay $30+ for the same discs that I got for $17 from ZONEDRIVEN and ebay's frisbeerancher. If your not buying from that guy, your paying to much!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh yeah, I love this disc for sidearm. It won't replace my Wraiths and Teerexs but its a welcome addition to my bag.





Were talking about Champion (CFR) Destroyers. NOT STAR....

just to let you guys in on a secret... the person who held the tourney (TD of SoCal) where the football/bar/and proto stamed champion discs were cfr'd at was selling all the left overs for 100 bucks each... what a scam




Well from what Suzette told me at Innova Disc Golf was the money raised went to the event/club for the SoCal area.

So there was a just cause for selling them at $100 plus you�re helping out a club.

Not mention they average range now is $100 to $400 on eBay.

So they could have been more but they kept it at $100. Seems fair. You can buy it to throw it. I do have a usmaster cfr that I throw. The 3 rare hot stamps are collector items so they're made to be on the wall in my opinion.

Everything I sell through eBay has a starting price of $.01 penny.

I never gouge anyone; the market and demand is out there which drives the price.

I'm not stupid I'm out to make a buck just like anyone else.

Peace....

Back on topic.

I finally spent some time throwing this disc and I'm quite impressed. Nice and fast with the ability for long turnovers with a great fade at the end.

Can't wait to practice with it more.

does anyone know what the impressions of this diac are with the top pros?

From my understanding most of the "top pros" don't throw brand new releases for some time after their release.

In my opinion this is probably because they, the good players, like to really get to know their plastic before they use it.

I talked to Dave, Kenny, and Avery about throwing the Destroyer they all said they were to unpredictable at this point. Dave said they were to flippy. But I also watched a player from Japan Manabu Kajiyama throw it for 400 + over and over.

You just got one dgdave, that was Craig Leyva that you just replied to! :eek: :p You will find him at USDGC, maybe this will be his year. :cool:

You just got one dgdave, that was Craig Leyva that you just replied to! :eek: :p You will find him at USDGC, maybe this will be his year. :cool:



oops. soory man. I feel like a jerk.

I've seen them flip (not for me, lol) but if you've got a lot of power, they can be a little unpredictable. So, maybe we'll see the trend continue with the Destroyer X? ;)

So...
Another Batch of CFR Champ Destroyers is going to be up for sale on DGV this wednesday. :eek:
Is there going to be another mad rush and sell out in a few hours or will some of us actually get a chance to get one at normal CFR price?

Place your bets now

Is it wendsday yet? :D:DAnd don't let quickdisc know! :p :D

Don't sweat it dude!

I threw the Star version over the weekend while getting ready for the qualifier, I thought it was a little flippy for me but I did like the flight characteristics of the disc.

I was told that the Pro Destroyer is the disc to get. I got some this week and will try them out and let you know. Please keep in mind that I throw with high speed so the disc is a lot less stable for me, so it would be a little more stable for players that throw with less speed.

I will let you know about the Pro version soon.

So...
Another Batch of CFR Champ Destroyers is going to be up for sale on DGV this wednesday. :eek:
Is there going to be another mad rush and sell out in a few hours or will some of us actually get a chance to get one at normal CFR price?

Place your bets now





Did these already go up.

Just ordered 5 @21.95/each. Don't know how many there are or how long they'll last.

Gone in 5 minutes! not sure how much Mark had but they went for 21.95 each...

Where did you find them at in the site?

I have been looking all morning and havent found them?

Has there ever been this much craze over a brand new disc before? Besides the 07 roc release?

Just ordered 5 @21.95/each. Don't know how many there are or how long they'll last.



I got 5... there were 150 total...

never saw them up either, that's BS :mad:

What stamp were these this morning?

Don't sweat it bro. Some of these #@$$%&^*$#!$ will have them on Ebay in no time.

never saw them up either, that's BS :mad:



Yo Tang, Hear that? It's the world's smallest violin playing just for you. LOL.

http://thememoryartist.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/smallest-violin.jpg

I bet the guys putting these up on EBAY are pocketing the money just so they can buy all the next batch.....and so on.


If i had a bunch of those they would be majorly helping me get a course in my town.

I want the Pro Destroyer anyway John. :p LOL :D:D

Here :

https://www.discgolfvalues.com/store/view_product.php?product=ST_DSTR


Or something close in Champion Plastic :

https://www.discgolfvalues.com/store/vie...82da866384733be (https://www.discgolfvalues.com/store/view_product.php?product=CE_LVTRX&PHPSESSID=017828 225a1b94a2682da866384733be)

Go ahead and create your account here:

http://www.soldiscsports.com/

That way you won't be fumbling around when the Champion Destroyers go on Sale tonight!

I'm sure they will go quickly @ $30.00.

I'll post later with a confirmed launch time. UPS is en route!

I will just wait till they come out in regular production. That way i can throw them with no worries about replacing them.

All the people making cash off of these can go jump off the nearest cliff cuz you are not helping the sport out.....selfish bastards

We're LIVE!

http://www.soldiscsports.com/pd_cfr_champion_destroyer.cfm

Gracias!

De nada, mi amigo! :D

Very nice looking discs! Much better than the Vegas ones that were just on DGV.

Is the stock on your site real time, or is there a chance I will get an email saying the ones I selected are gone? Thanks man!!

Stock is real time! Thanks Dave! See you at the OO.

Thanks :) Very sweet discs! :cool:

Thanks Chris! Will you be at the Friz?

No, not going to make the Friz. Can't wait for the OO though!

Thanks to everyone that has sponsored the Solstice C-Tour 2008 so far by purchasing their Champion Destroyers here:

http://www.soldiscsports.com/pd_cfr_champion_destroyer.cfm

Disc Sponsors

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Threw these Pro Destroyers on the ball golf course the other day, pin high on a 165 yard par 3. These discs are alot more stable than the Star version, I got them to flatten out some but they had a great hyzer glide at the end. I can't wait to spend some more time with this disc.

I wonder what they would be like beat up a little?

I have a Thrashed Champion Destroyer now and it does flip a little into a headwind. Just adjust with a bit of hyzer and all is good again !!!!

Great deal on a killer disc !!!!
http://www.soldiscsports.com/pd_cfr_champion_destroyer.cfm

Thanks Again ,

Donny Olow
[email protected]

The wife listened this year for the birthday...she got me two 170g Star Destroyers. She didn't even realize that they were both first runs. She got them for a deal too...$13.99.

Great deal on a killer disc !!!!
http://www.soldiscsports.com/pd_cfr_champion_destroyer.cfm

Thanks Again ,

Donny Olow
[email protected]



Thanks for your sponsorship Donny!

More Thank You's to our Sponsors:

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Donny Olow x5 - San Diego, California

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Nick J. Longo - Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada

Marc Sidel - Los Altos Hills, California

James McBride - York, Pennsylvania

Jennifer Gott - Kansas City, Kansas

Norbert Carter - Bridgeport, New York

Ryan Howe - Auburn, California

hopefully you have some next week when I get paid. I would like to get a couple more.

I think these are awesome looking discs. Its in my top 5 destroyer stamps I've seen. Good job Chris

I got mine today and they really look great! I like the simple stamp too.

Thanks for the compliments guys and thanks for the banner Dave!

I just got a Pro Destroyer and the thing just crushes!! It probably goes at least 50 feet farther than my first run star. It is a bit more flippy but when you throw it with a slight hyzer angle it seems like it has a lot more glide to it. I highly recommend getting one of these while you still can...

Are pro destroyers going to be made available anytime soon?

TRY HERE (https://www.discgolfvalues.com/store/view_product.php?product=Pro_DST&PHPSESSID=8635cf5 489717b165b05860d6d6cefa9)

The Pro version is a great disc! Mine are very stable and when I get them to turn over have great glide and plain out really nice. This disc would be a great addition to any golfers bag.

I want to try them in some lighter versions, maybe around 165 grams. I hope that they can make them in 150 class as well.

The ADGA just got in some cfr and pro destroyers. If anybody is interested shoot me a pm. I'll overnight them anywhere in the country for free. You only pay the cost of the disc. Let me know.

Pro Destroyers ROCK!!!!

Farthest disc and predictable too.

I just got a few Pro-D's....at the old Dynamic Discs Open

They feel incredible....

They have a good dome on them....mine do at least......I hope they aren't too flippy....

how are the pros flying?

The ADGA just got in some cfr and pro destroyers. If anybody is interested shoot me a pm. I'll overnight them anywhere in the country for free. You only pay the cost of the disc. Let me know.



Yo Dog, Sell them quick before the next "disc of the month club" disc comes out.

Really, how many strokes have they shaved off of your average game? Conversly, how many strokes have they added to your average round?

The ADGA just got in some cfr and pro destroyers. If anybody is interested shoot me a pm. I'll overnight them anywhere in the country for free. You only pay the cost of the disc. Let me know.



Yo Dog, Sell them quick before the next "disc of the month club" disc comes out.

Really, how many strokes have they shaved off of your average game? Conversly, how many strokes have they added to your average round?



Let's see, every disc I throw adds a stroke to my score. :confused:

I can't wait until the disc comes out that I can throw that won't add a stroke to my score. But how will it do that? If I throw it then it adds a stroke. So I'm still :confused: So the search will continue I guess. :D

Then quit throwing discs and get back to smashing whities. :DAt least you saw where i was headed with this. Just trolling the waters.... :D

I saw some guys absolutely rip shot's last weekend at CO State Championships with the Destroyer. The wind was occasionally wicked, but was not a factor for guys who could throw the Destroyer well. Did it help me? Can't say it did ... but I saw it help some players.
I was most impressed with the control some players were getting with it.

Even those little white orbs add strokes to my score when I smash them. :p But either way smashing white orbs or throwing flat discs gets in the blood and it's a never ending quest to get the best. And I'll let you fill in the rest... :D

I can't wait until the disc comes out that I can throw that won't add a stroke to my score. But how will it do that? If I throw it then it adds a stroke.



My CFR DevilHawk aced two consecutive holes with a single throw.

I can't wait until the disc comes out that I can throw that won't add a stroke to my score. But how will it do that? If I throw it then it adds a stroke.



My CFR DevilHawk aced two consecutive holes with a single throw.



<font color="red"> Greggles,

How did it </font>
come to rest supported by the chains or within one of the entrapment sections. This includes a disc wedged into or hanging from the lower entrapment section but excludes a disc resting on top of, or hanging outside of, the upper entrapment section. The disc must also remain within the chains or entrapment sections until removed.


<font color="red"> twice in a single throw? I bet you're a golfer that carries one of those Innova pencils with the extra long eraser, huh?</font> :D

I can't wait until the disc comes out that I can throw that won't add a stroke to my score. But how will it do that? If I throw it then it adds a stroke.



My CFR DevilHawk aced two consecutive holes with a single throw.



LMAO, that's one way to do it!! :cool:

My CFR DevilHawk aced two consecutive holes with a single throw.


/msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif ...5 down after 2 holes, huh... /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

I can't wait until the disc comes out that I can throw that won't add a stroke to my score. But how will it do that? If I throw it then it adds a stroke.



My CFR DevilHawk aced two consecutive holes with a single throw.



<font color="red"> Greggles,

How did it </font>
come to rest supported by the chains or within one of the entrapment sections. This includes a disc wedged into or hanging from the lower entrapment section but excludes a disc resting on top of, or hanging outside of, the upper entrapment section. The disc must also remain within the chains or entrapment sections until removed.


<font color="red"> twice in a single throw? I bet you're a golfer that carries one of those Innova pencils with the extra long eraser, huh?</font> :D



It's a DevilHawk. It hit the first basket so hard that the basket came out of the sleeve and landed in the 2nd basket with the disc still in the chains.

If you shatter a Devilhawk into 18 pieces on the first hole, its every piece comes to rest in a basket resulting in a full round score of 1.

If you shatter a Devilhawk into 18 pieces on the first hole, its every piece comes to rest in a basket resulting in a full round score of 1.


Me? I shot 53 down. You? :D

The devil hawk can be taught to spontaneously jump out of your bag at the start of the round, and ace all holes in succession.

This would result in a score of Zero throws.

I can't wait until the disc comes out that I can throw that won't add a stroke to my score. But how will it do that? If I throw it then it adds a stroke.



My CFR DevilHawk aced two consecutive holes with a single throw.



<font color="red"> Greggles,

How did it </font>
come to rest supported by the chains or within one of the entrapment sections. This includes a disc wedged into or hanging from the lower entrapment section but excludes a disc resting on top of, or hanging outside of, the upper entrapment section. The disc must also remain within the chains or entrapment sections until removed.


<font color="red"> twice in a single throw? I bet you're a golfer that carries one of those Innova pencils with the extra long eraser, huh?</font> :D



It's a DevilHawk. It hit the first basket so hard that the basket came out of the sleeve and landed in the 2nd basket with the disc still in the chains.




But only if thrown by Chuck Norris! :D

If you shatter a Devilhawk into 18 pieces on the first hole, its every piece comes to rest in a basket resulting in a full round score of 1.



As long as all 18 pieces are exactly the same size. :DI've actually had a ROLLER at the 1997 VPO hit a tree, split in two, and the larger half came to rest 10 feet UP IN THE TREE out of bounds! Go figure!

The DevilHawk is an incredable disc! It will hold a hyzer in the worst of winds, ani in a total calm, fly straight as an arrow, can be used as a roller, driver, midrange and putter. I have pretty much emptied my bag and filled it with DevilHawks! Now I carry 17 DevilHawks for driving and mid-ranges and two for putters.

Of course with each drive landing in the basket, I don't really use my midrange and putter DevilHawks, but better safe than sorry. I have 5 first runs DevilHawks for sell right now, check out e-bay and they will not last. The second runs seem to be a bit more flippy than the first runs, they still always land in the basket, but first runs are always better.

Ha! ... Devilhawk highjack ... ;)

Been awhile.

waste of our time

waste of our time



Speak for yourself.

DevilHawk enthusiasts don't think so. Also, <font color="red"> Greggles </font> , you mentioned it was a CFR DevilHawk? Why does it have to be part of "that other brand's" line up? Don't make me dig up the original devilhawk post. I don't think you'll be happy knowing who the real manufacturer is. :D

Ha! ... Devilhawk highjack ... ;)

Been awhile.



It surely has been a while.

Never underestimate the power of the DevilHawk!

waste of our time



Speak for yourself.

DevilHawk enthusiasts don't think so. Also, <font color="red"> Greggles </font> , you mentioned it was a CFR DevilHawk? Why does it have to be part of "that other brand's" line up? Don't make me dig up the original devilhawk post. I don't think you'll be happy knowing who the real manufacturer is. :D



Gateway? :p

Man I wish Conners would get around to throwing the DevilHawk I threw to his house before 07 Worlds.........I aced the basket he has in his garage with it and forgot to lock it up in my car for the ride home!!! Hey Conners would you mind throwing it back to my house.......I have a Chainstar in my garage that would surely catch it!!! I just need it for the 13000 ft course im playing on saturday.....Thanks

Hey! Who threw a DevilHawk into my basket in my garage? Did somebody griplock and throw to the east coast? Hey Mills, is this your DevilHawk? Cause you didn't write your name in it- dumb rookie!

Gateway? :p

Quest, actually

I thought it was a Gateway/Quest disc.

Well I got out to Blackhawk, Kevin McCoy's Masterpiece here in Tulsa, with the Old P-ds's.....

WOW!

They are Control City Baby!

Low speed shots are very predictable and easy to control...

They are domey but they are mildly overstable as well....

I also had several shots skip straight yesterday....I don't know if that was the disc, or just hitting twigs the right way....

I did not have to crush a flat drive....so I can't speak for the long-range-D...but it feels incredible in your hand...

The plastic is not a typical Pro run....more on the STAR side of things.....

I think they will take a long time to beat up....of course I do hit a lot of trees!!!

Man I wish Conners would get around to throwing the DevilHawk I threw to his house before 07 Worlds.........I aced the basket he has in his garage with it and forgot to lock it up in my car for the ride home!!! Hey Conners would you mind throwing it back to my house.......I have a Chainstar in my garage that would surely catch it!!! I just need it for the 13000 ft course im playing on saturday.....Thanks



Hey Mills I'm about to throw your DevilHawk back to you. I need to know your exact coordinates in order to make it happen. One degree off could be a disastrous.

I've got a DevilHawk X with added stability to hold its line through tropical depressions and upper level lows. It also negotiates low ceilings better, often staying just under the clouds without losing too much distance.

The great thing about buying DevilHawks online is that the shipping is always free. Just put the address on a post-it, stick it on the underside of the disc and throw.

I thought this was the "Destroyer" thread?

yeah how it would get destroyed going up against a devilhawk

: ) :

now that some have had their silly fun and wasted our time, can we get the thread back on track? specifically-how less stable are the pro destroyers compared to the star?

now that some have had their silly fun and wasted our time, can we get the thread back on track? specifically-how less stable are the pro destroyers compared to the star?

read the ask dave d post..... who cares anyway, this isnt some magic disc that will take thirty throws off a round, its a flippin driver. Now, if you want a magic disc, get a DEVILHAWK. Dyed Red with the blood of Chuck Norris' parents this thing only know one way, to kick the arse of everything in its path! :p

Pro destroyer rocks!!!!!!!

Pro destroyer rocks!!!!!!!


I didn't think you liked the Destroyer. What's different with the pro vs. the others you didn't like?

the difference is the pro plastic is getting discontinued...so stock up now.

Anyone interested in a destroyerX or all you all noodlearms?

Pro plastic is NOT being discontinued. The Pro Destroyer is currently in production and should be available in regular stock in December.

Yeah check your facts Mr.Worlds Sponsor...

If you will read the Ask Dave D thread you would know that several more overstable destroyer molds already exist...

But Dave is not convinced that the wider rim is fair due to it giving larger handed players a bigger advantage that we already have...or I should say I think that is what he thinks...

Innova Champion Destroyer (CFR) (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&amp;ProdID=1678)
Innova Pro Destroyer (CFR) (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&amp;ProdID=1679)

Can you dig it?

ZoneDriven has Tupelo Bay Open Champion and Pro Destroyers.

If you haven't thrown a Pro, and you like the Destroyer, it's a MUST! I've only played a couple rounds since USDGC, and I have been throwing that disc farther than anything I have ever thrown It pops like no other disc.

I have yet to throw the Champion, but the Pro is the king disc in my bag now.

The Pro is much more stable than the Star for me. The Star was quite flippy but had alot of glide at the end. The Pro was much more stable and had alot of glide at the end, but with lower spin it will have a killer stall at the end of the glide.

What I like the most is that I don't have to throw this disc as hard as other drivers, and I will get more distance out of it. Now that I'm officially Masters age, this is a good thing for me!

Anyone else notice their Star Destroyer going from overstable to flippy after a few tree hits? Two weeks ago my Star Destroyer was the perfect stable/overstable partner to my flippy max D drivers. Now it is one of my flippy max D drivers...It goes a long way now but I can't say as if I'm impressed with the durability. A driver should not change that quickly imo, I don't care how fast it is or how far it goes.

Try a Champ Destroyer. They go every bit as far, if not further, andnow they are only about $20 instead of $500.

I have seen that happen with several of the star destroyers. I have both and the champion is a little more stable at first but when the star ones get beat they are very flippy. It may be hard to believe but I have a star one that is 172 and it flies like a valkyrie of the same weight. Still goes a mile but I definitely prefer my champion one.

How fast are your guys' Pros breaking in? I have a Star that I've had for 2 monthes that is just now starting to turn more before it comes back. I usually only throw these in the open with an occasional limb hit. never hit a tree dead on.

So, is it a safer bet to get a champ destroyer (rather than a star) if I want one that will hold its line over a longer period of time?

Go Champion Destroyer !!!!! They are Awesome. I highly recommend them !!!!!

A beat Star will flip some.

A New Pro is a bit more overstable than a Star , but a Star version may fly farther because it flatens out first before hyzering back.

Try ALL Three. Each one has it's own unique flight characteristics.

It really depends on what type of shot you are looking for and what line you need the disc to hold at !!!!!

I hope that is not to specific , but true !!!

Atleast here in Southern California.

WORD !!!!!!! :cool:

Donny Olow

Review...

Champion Destroyers - Super fast but seems less stable that Star.

Star Destroyers - Agree they are a farther disc because the flatten out far then hyzer...

Pro Destroyers - Love them!! Super Stable version of the Destroyer I think. I feel more confident in throwing hard with this disc knowing it will stable out in the end.

My Lefty view......laters...

R the Champs more domey than the star?? How does the Pro dome wise compare to the both?? How can anyone complain about a Star Destroyer even if they do start to flip after awhile they are further and more stable the wraith.

I think the Star has less dome that the Champion and the Pro has the MOST dome of any of them.

I'm not the only one that thinks that. My buddy Moose is a big gun thrower standing at 6' 8" tall...

He actually was the one who brought it up to me. We went out and played about 6 holes just throwing the champion, star and pro destroyer. the pro destroyer was the most stable.

Plus throw after throw it was consistently stable.

Pro Destroyer.........the stable pig in my bag.... :cool:

the new stable pig in my bag.



But not for long....

Just don't hit any trees... haha

I really dig the Destroyer, and it is the only disc that I would carry in different plastics all the time....

The Pro, Star, and Champ all fly with different characteristics.....

Star for Teebird like flight pattern.

Champ for a more overstable solution.

And the Pro can do it all in different conditions....that is if you have them beat in right...

As good as the pro feels in my hand, there is something about that STAR that keeps callin me back...

I just played a tournament in Jasper Akransas, the course is called Horseshoe Canyon. As the name implies, it is a huge beautiful canyon....and when I needed the long stuff, I found myself looking for my Star rather than my pro....

But I guess that is all subjective B.S. for everyone else....

In addition to your great descriptions I wanted to add that that the first Star Destroyer I got was orange 175 "proto" stamped and the plastic had a taffy-like texture. The texture is soft to the touch with a matte finish and was nicely flexible. This disc became understable pretty quickly and now requires some hyzer to fly straight.

I was thumbing through a stack of Star Destroyers about a week ago and I found one highlighter red at 170 grams with a "proto" star stamp also but the texture of this star plastic was slightly different. It had a shiny finish and was even more flexible. I would describe this as more of a gummy star plastic. I have found the second, lighter star destroyer to be slightly straighter at high speed (more stable) and really just fun to throw because of how flexible it is - but that's just my preference. just thought i'd share that not all star plastic is created equal

I have a champion and star destroyer at max weight, they fly almost identical. Are the pro destroyers more understable? I keep seeing people say they are more stable, are you saying it has less of a fade?

that should be correct, as stable implies straight. Unfortunately, most people use "more stable" to mean more overstable. not to get too technical, but a teebird is actually "more stable" than a firebird. a teebird is also more stable than a leopard.

that should be correct, as stable implies straight. Unfortunately, most people use "more stable" to mean more overstable. not to get too technical, but a teebird is actually "more stable" than a firebird. a teebird is also more stable than a leopard.


Amen...........

my pro destroyers are definitely more overstable than my star destroyers- not really what i expected.

Thats what i thought i just wanted to clarify.

At first my pro destroyer was more overstable but the plastic is perfect for tuning. After bending the disc downward a couple times it flies as straight as I want it to.

i dont like how the destroyers fall off at the end. i put my teerex back in my bag.im getting 10 or 20 extra feet back.

But if you want something you KNOW will still go left into a headwind they are GREAT!!

I have Star, Champion and Pro, and they all do different things into the wind, but for wide open long throws, NOTHING throws farther than the Star one.

but for wide open long throws, NOTHING throws farther than the Star one.



I totally agree...i have max weight SD's but I've heard the 169's are the shiznit or distance.

/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif 167-169 Rocks !!!!

Amen. Totally agree.

I am a firm lover of the Tee-Rex, but plain and simple, I'm getting another 30-40 feet with the Destroyer. It has it's place in the bag, you know, when you just have to unload on something.

When I need to crush one, on target however, It's a Tee-rex

I have a few Pro D's, haven't thrown them yet...

Crazy to hear they are more overstable...

Crazy to hear they are more overstable...



surprised the heck out of me too.

I dont know, i have 4 star destroyers (175, 172,169, 168) a champion destroyer (175) and i just got two pro destroyers (175, 168) which i have only gotten to throw 1 round with.

My observations are the star are more overstable as my my 168 flys consistently farther and has less of a fade. And my 175 has a big low speed fade. I have only gotten to throw my pro destroyers today and there didnt seem to be much difference between them forehand( to me they went really straight really fast!) But back hand the 175 i had to throw with anhyzer and the 168 i had to throw with hyzer.

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I'm looking to purchase some pro destroyers. Sun King is out, does anyone know where I can buy a few pink pro destroyers?

maybe discgolfvalues.com

Correction the pro destroyers are more overstable! They have a huge low speed fade.

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I have three Champion Destroyers from which I've removed the stamps for dying. If anyone would like one custom dyed, let me know. One is clear and two are pale pink. The pink ones could have an orange base rather than a pink base if you're averse to pink. I can go a lot lower than $25 unless someone reminds me that I agreed not to. I don't recall ever seeing a minimum permitted price on Champion Destroyers other than the minimum permitted price on Champion discs generally.

You could charge 1.5 mil if you felt so inclined.

i have 4 new yellow 171 star destroyers. 2 star stamps and 2 reg. stamps. who wants 'em for 55$ shipped?

I am blown away by the Champion Destroyer!!!! I have been thrown CE FX firebirds for the past 6 years as my sidearm disc and within 1 round of using the Destroyer I am throwing 50 feet farther and birdied 2 holes I haven't birdied in years!! The disc is amazing. Just like my FX, but faster and longer. Great sidearm roller too!!!! WOW is all I can say. I have a new weapon!

I have three Champion Destroyers from which I've removed the stamps for dying. If anyone would like one custom dyed, let me know. One is clear and two are pale pink. The pink ones could have an orange base rather than a pink base if you're averse to pink. I can go a lot lower than $25 unless someone reminds me that I agreed not to. I don't recall ever seeing a minimum permitted price on Champion Destroyers other than the minimum permitted price on Champion discs generally.


This is what I did to the pink ones. I think they are sold.
http://img4.glowfoto.com/images/2007/12/27-1426177102T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/user_imageredirect.php?iid=1915546)

http://img4.glowfoto.com/images/2007/12/27-1426208012T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/user_imageredirect.php?iid=1915547)

This is what I've dyed this month, not counting a few discs I did not take pictures of. http://www.glowfoto.com/users3/bruce_brakel/view.php?aid=39016
It is mostly all sold, but I could make more.

Green champ destroyers with YODA.....me want :D

just spent 4 rounds at johns island, sc w/ some destroyers. my domey pros were definately less HSS than my stars. maybe a little less low speed overstable as well. the pros were noticeably more domey than the stars, but the stars still had a nice, consistent dome. pros definately more grippy and rippable, and flew like a new dx wraith. all discs were new 168-170. it was mildly breezy. i was getting about 450 at best.

I've tried the Star Destroyer out on the practice field, and doesn't hold a candle to a Blurr ;)

please expound...

anyone know where to get champ destroyers other than sunking and discgolf values?

I have Champion Destroyers for the Pin High Tour Series in Wi and for the UnderPar DiscGolf Open. $25 w/free shipping. PM Me if interested

I've tried the Star Destroyer out on the practice field, and doesn't hold a candle to a Blurr ;)


I am starting to get a little sick of the Gateway shills all over this site. I got a Blurr directly from Dave Mac. It flies like it has a big hole in it. Possibly the least glide (without being overstable) of any disc I've ever thrown. Now stop it. I would gladly trade it for a bag of Doritos.

Cool ranch?

I've tried the Star Destroyer out on the practice field, and doesn't hold a candle to a Blurr ;)


I am starting to get a little sick of the Gateway shills all over this site. I got a Blurr directly from Dave Mac. It flies like it has a big hole in it. Possibly the least glide (without being overstable) of any disc I've ever thrown. Now stop it. I would gladly trade it for a bag of Doritos.



I never really liked the Blurr either but I can still throw it 450'. The ones I had were beefy though.

Cool ranch?


Any flavor, I think I'd even take an opened bag.

I've tried the Star Destroyer out on the practice field, and doesn't hold a candle to a Blurr ;)


I am starting to get a little sick of the Gateway shills all over this site. I got a Blurr directly from Dave Mac. It flies like it has a big hole in it. Possibly the least glide (without being overstable) of any disc I've ever thrown. Now stop it. I would gladly trade it for a bag of Doritos.


Now...I didn't out right bash the Destroyer. I just stated that a Blurr was much better for me. For you, the Destroyer might be better than a Blurr. To each his own on what they want to throw. And people are allowed to formulate their own opinion of a disc and compare it to what they want. If you don't like my opinion, so be it.

keep gateway opinions on gateway threads. this is a thread about innova's destroyer. feel free to post negative feedback about the destroyer if you want. BUT, no one asked about the blurr. maybe you should start a blurr thread.

When field testing a disc, don't you usually throw it next to something else? I am pretty sure that is how most people do field testing. And in my testing...the blurr was the winner. The other disc's that I tested againts it were a Wraith and a Surge.

Now, would it have made a difference if I had listed out only Innova and Discraft disc instead of a Gateway one? I bet it would have. If you say it wouldn't have then, you better go back and reprimand the people that were talking about Discraft earlier in this thread too.

nothing wrong w/ comparing discs from differing brands to one another. your post only said the blurr was better. tell us how. give us that comparison. it was just in the "tone" of the post, and i have seen this sort of gateway hijack to many times in the past [not from you]. i love gateway. just tired of the tactless gateway hijack attempts. no biggie, and no offense.

My apologies then. I didn't mean anything by it. The "tone" of the post was meant to be more of a true comparison. As for the comparison...the Blurr had similar speed and stability, but the one thing that I found that made it stand out more was that it is easier to grip in the hand. The distances for all four of the disc's were within 5 to 15 ft of each other. The Blurr was the longest, followed by the Destroyer, then the Surge and the Wraith was last.

interesting.

anyone want to buy 2 star-stamp destroyers and 2 reg stamp star destroyers? 45$ for all 4 shipped. they are all brand new, star plastic, and yellow.

I was lucky enough to run into Joe "TwisteD FlyeR" Rotan as he was driving back to OK from OR on NY'sEve. He gave me a Pro and Champion TF Destroyer. After a little field testing, I'd have to say that the Pro is less overstable than the Champ or the *. The Pro stayed in the air the longest for my rubber arm, too. The champ was longer than my * also. The star D is a first run os pig. I like the lighter CH and Pro better. They don't tear my 50-year-old arm off like the star does in the colder weather. Thanks again Joe for the unexpected equipment. Great seeing you and Danielle.

Seemed a little less piggish than the rest of them. Loved it. I have all 4 now!!! :cool:Thanks Dave!

I have tried many Star Destroyers since they were released. I throw pretty much all my drivers @ 175g, so this was the weight of the first few Destroyers I bought. I was impressed somewhat, but it did not really make my bag. I got some flukey long throws with them, but I was still getting better average D and control with my Rogues and Wraithes. A couple of weeks ago I was at the store and I found a Destroyer that just felt great. It was only 172g, but I bought it anyway. This thing just bombs. It stays in the air much longer than the heavier ones, and it is definetely the longest disc I have thrown in neutral conditions. I also don't have to hurl it as hard to get the benefits. Like I said, I usually prefer max weight and I have tried lighter variants of my other molds and did not like them. The Destroyer is different. Anyone else with similar findings?

I've noticed the same thing. When I bought a scale I weighed my 175s and most were over 175G. There definitely is a point of diminishing return for disc weight. Too heavy or too light- no good. But 169-172G seems just right.

I have tried many Star Destroyers since they were released. I throw pretty much all my drivers @ 175g, so this was the weight of the first few Destroyers I bought. I was impressed somewhat, but it did not really make my bag. I got some flukey long throws with them, but I was still getting better average D and control with my Rogues and Wraithes. A couple of weeks ago I was at the store and I found a Destroyer that just felt great. It was only 172g, but I bought it anyway. This thing just bombs. It stays in the air much longer than the heavier ones, and it is definetely the longest disc I have thrown in neutral conditions. I also don't have to hurl it as hard to get the benefits. Like I said, I usually prefer max weight and I have tried lighter variants of my other molds and did not like them. The Destroyer is different. Anyone else with similar findings?

I have found this to be the case as well. Most all discs in my bag are close or at full weight but the 175 Star Destroyer was a little unweildy for me. I just couldn't get the revolutions on it that it so badly needed. I later found a gummier 170 that is also very flat in profile and it made me fall in love with the mold. I can throw it forehand further than any other disc and just love the way it feels. I also don't have to kill myself trying to throw it and enjoy watching how far it flies on a hyzer line with minimal effort.

I only throw between 169-172g. They are the bomb. The max weight ones did not perform like the lighter weights. I throw 174/175 in all my other drivers too.

In my bag i have a 175 &amp; 168 pro destroyer, 175,171, and 168 star destroyer. And i am working in a 172 and 166 dx destroyer. All different weights for different effects. Of course the heavier ones hyzer faster and fight the wind well. The lighter the farther. They have replaced alot of discs in my bag, mainly wraiths. Inever was a big wraith fan and now with the detroyer I have no use for em anymore, i hate wraiths now, lol.

Wow, here I was wondering If I was the only one that seemed to have noticed this. My Destroyer collection includes 3 stars, 175,172,169, and 2 Pros, 175,168. In order of stability, and this is the weird part, they are as follows (from over to under) 175 Pro,172 Star, 168 Pro, 175 Star, 169 Star. I have not weighed them myself, and I have some suspicions. I definitely crush the lighter ones farther backhand, but forehand the heavier ones suit me better. I think that the 175 Star must be mismarked, it appears to be about the same profile as the other Stars, but it will flip. The pros are domey, and I think will beat in to be very long. I carry the 175 Pro and the 169 Star presently, but I like them all. I would say that this mold benefits the most from weight differential of all my drivers, because like the prevailing theme here, all my other distance stuff is max weight. KP

Wow, here I was wondering If I was the only one that seemed to have noticed this. My Destroyer collection includes 3 stars, 175,172,169, and 2 Pros, 175,168. In order of stability, and this is the weird part, they are as follows (from over to under) 175 Pro,172 Star, 168 Pro, 175 Star, 169 Star. I have not weighed them myself, and I have some suspicions. I definitely crush the lighter ones farther backhand, but forehand the heavier ones suit me better. I think that the 175 Star must be mismarked, it appears to be about the same profile as the other Stars, but it will flip. The pros are domey, and I think will beat in to be very long. I carry the 175 Pro and the 169 Star presently, but I like them all. I would say that this mold benefits the most from weight differential of all my drivers, because like the prevailing theme here, all my other distance stuff is max weight. KP




I doubt the weight is wrong. More than likely it just isn't as overstable. I mean I have seen some that hyzer and others that are rollers.

Okay, that is certainly possible, I would still like to weigh'em. I guess I would have been thrown off if I had gotten the 169 and 175 at the same time, without benefit of throwing the others. I would have thought had that happened, that there was no difference at all in the different weights. My dad has a proto stamp 175 Star that is about as stable as my 172 Star. Just an anomaly I suppose. KP

Okay, that is certainly possible, I would still like to weigh'em. I guess I would have been thrown off if I had gotten the 169 and 175 at the same time, without benefit of throwing the others. I would have thought had that happened, that there was no difference at all in the different weights. My dad has a proto stamp 175 Star that is about as stable as my 172 Star. Just an anomaly I suppose. KP




3 Grams means almost nothing but the Protos were more overstable compared to the newer runs.

yeah the 175 star destroyer i have is an x-out and compared with normal star 175's people use, mine is way more overstable. In order of stability mine go 175 pro, 175 star, 171 star, 168 star, 168 pro... And i have a 175 champion and it has a higher turn than my 168 star, but fades alot harder.

bringing this thread back! go destroyers!

interesting.

anyone want to buy 2 star-stamp destroyers and 2 reg stamp star destroyers? 45$ for all 4 shipped. they are all brand new, star plastic, and yellow.

Can you PM me with pictures I may snag these if you still have them

Can you PM me with pictures I may snag these if you still have them

Did you notice his post was made FIVE years ago?