How many days left to the 2nd annual 14th west virginia open? I'm thinking about coming down early to get a good camping spot. (somewhere between passed out kelly and the rumble in the jungle)

niiiiiice, we plan on being in that vicinity too..

look for the fat barefoot drunken am2 player trying to give away his spiked watermelon..he'll be somewhere between kelly and the carnage..

One full year later, Doot, and you still plan on being Am2? Where are the aspirations?!!?

true true..but right now with my blown out knee i prob wouldn't be cashing in Rec..

true true..but right now with my blown out knee i prob wouldn't be cashing in Rec..



Yea, seriously. All the aspirations in the world don't magically cure three shredded knee ligaments, Fats.

He shot the best he's shot probably ever ON his blown out knee at the Rutgers LED challenge. Who needs knees?

Back on track, I will definitely be at Paw Paw, the site of my first pro cash. How can I miss this?

275 days till the 2nd annual 14th WVO.

but me and my buds get to play the woodshed and whippin' post tomorrow.

Big difference between a pancake-flat course where the longest hole is 230 feet, and Paw Paw. Doot said he tried to play Kisco the other week and it was a disaster - I can't imagine trying to hobble around Paw Paw.

Camp Ohio will grow this year for sure. Everyone had a blast and we're working on bringing down even more people, even though some will be from Kentucky. Nothing compares to Paw Paw ... it's the best.

Most importantly, what are the weather forecasts saying?

Camp Ohio will grow this year for sure. Everyone had a blast and we're working on bringing down even more people, even though some will be from Kentucky. Nothing compares to Paw Paw ... it's the best.



You better get there early....ask Schick & Tyler. :)

.....passed out kelly



a.k.a. "Dixie Cup"

After 4 yeers in a row making this event...i may have to miss the 2007 WVO :( It's a choice between going there or to the MSDGC. If they didn't screw with the date, I'd hit both again. BAH!

ouch..that is a tough choice....these 2 events are more important than your job..just quit mitch, go to both

Yes they are important and two of my all time favorite events...but i enjoy my job and the money i make there...

No dates on the PDGA schedule, yet...
and I'm hearing all sorts of rumors. :confused:

Camp Ohio will grow this year for sure. Everyone had a blast and we're working on bringing down even more people, even though some will be from Kentucky. Nothing compares to Paw Paw ... it's the best.



You better get there early....ask Schick & Tyler. :)



Yeah...no doubt! **** Gawler and his crew.....bunch of bad vibes last year from different areas. Fighting and D.Q. ing people....not normal Paw Paw for sure!

Unless something crazy happens, no WVO for this mullet. Oh well, someone else can get the spot in the finals :) Shicky, your my pick to win it this yeer.

No dates on the PDGA schedule, yet...
and I'm hearing all sorts of rumors. :confused:



labor day weekend, pro only, field limit 144 is the current plan i believe.

pro only??????

there will be an am only event in June.

I can play in both

PRO ONLY!?!!?

Are you guys serious?!?!

Say it ain't so..We've had soooooooo much fun the past two years at the WVO. Please, please, please keep it Pro/Am..I'm not one to beg, but....PLEASE!!!!!

Labor day won't be the same..throw us a friggin' bone, please?

doot

Just come and play pro!!!!!!!

Just come and play pro!!!!!!!



You dawg!!

Where's my Crosstown AM trophy!?!?! I beat my two competitors fair and square..made room on my trophy case and everything..lol..

Give me another year to recover from a season ending surgery and I'll take your red-headed @$$ out in 2008 (if not I'll just verbally taunt you.)

Frederick Doot
12-69 Sunnyside Drive
Fair Lawn, NJ 07410

I expect multiple donations to my ice bowl or the g'**** trophy within a week..

MostdefinitelyeffingKindest Regards,

- doot

pro only, field limit 144....



I hadn't heard that rumor. :confused:

so when are you guys going to make the va. open pro only :mad:

I heard it has something to do with Naved being a bagger. :)

Tony ......Susi...is this rumor true????????? **** **** **** it better NOT be......... :confused:

definitely because of naved bagging. that other kid should have totally won.

definitely because of naved bagging. that other kid should have totally won.



With 970+ ratings, the top 3 Advanced were ALL sandbagging. :D

definitely because of naved bagging. that other kid should have totally won.



With 970+ ratings, the top 3 Advanced were ALL sandbagging. :D

2nd

so when are you guys going to make the va. open pro only :mad:



there is no "you guys" between these 2 events- they are run by completely different folks- i will take credit for encouraging both to go to foursomes however.

my bad

Can we petition to keep the WVO as a Pro/Am event?

C'mon AMs..let's hear here it!

c'mon ams, just play open!

i really don't see what the big deal is. i REALLY like that it will be limited to foursomes. that first round last year in the rain was the longest round i've ever played. kudos to the TDs for making this move.

Fine limiting it to 72 per course, but keep it Pro/Am..

I won the bid on e-bay to play Am last year. It is disappointing to hear that it will not be a pro/am event. I travel the distance to make it to the event because of all the people that are traveling from Pittsburgh with me. Half are Pro's half are Ams. It probably is a good move to make the payout more per division. But I most likely will not attend because our hole group of players from Pittsburgh will not be able to attend all together :(. Not that it really matters that an Am won't show up or anything, but just putting in my opinion.

I travel 400 miles and 6 hours to attend this event past two years since playing. Others from NY state travel even farther. I've already put in for the time off at work to attend.

Really, really bummed if it stays Pro only..

if you travel that far for the event, then it must be worth it even if you have to play open.

saying "because i can't play am" is not a good reason to not attend WVO. playing in WVO is less than half the fun of being at WVO. just suck it up and join me on the mullet card!

But I most likely will not attend because our hole group of players from Pittsburgh will not be able to attend all together



correction-- you are all able to attend together, ams just need to play open. people are acting like they're asking you to name your first born "susi" to play. :D

You gotta applaud the organizers for having the stones to make this move. Sure it will not make the sterotypical AM player happy, but it will help to take this great tournament to the next level.

i don't see what the big deal is... you go to wvo for one of 2 reasons: the golf or the party. for those who go for the golf there is the am only event in june (i'm sure there will be some partying that weekend as well). for those who go for the party go and play pro or go and don't play.

Tony/Susi: Do you forsee allowing trophy-only or AM filler entries at reduced rates if the event isn't full by a certain date? Just curious.

I agree that if you love this event, playing up is a no brainer. if enough people play up if could be a HUGE Pro field!

i don't see what the big deal is... you go to wvo for one of 2 reasons: the golf or the party. for those who go for the golf there is the am only event in june (i'm sure there will be some partying that weekend as well). for those who go for the party go and play pro or go and don't play.



this year will be my fourth june event and i almost think it's more fun than WVO! i'd rather it not be limited to AM though. it hasn't come close to filling as far as i recall.

So now that the WVO is pro only whats is the an event going to be called. You cant call the WVO thats just not right.
And for all that disagree with it being pro and ams spilt up in different months there is no need to complain do to the fact that its going to get you nowhere. So what is the point. Just think the only really cool thing the ams will miss is the final 9 and watching amazing players play some great golf at a great course!!!

A date on this am event (with no name yet) would be nice.

I think Susi just didn't want to make so many trophies this year.

Why not go one division? All the arguements for the am's to play up, apply to the protected divisions too.

All the am's could get together and have a side am bet for plastic.

Will the entry for all women be reduced like it was for ladies last year?

Yeah you guys are all right. I should move up to the pro division for the event so that I can play and party. I should also throw in additional money so that I can have a chance to win some plastics with all the rest of the AMs that move up. I am not arguing with you guys at all. But if what you are banking on is that all the AM's will move up to Pro and that in essence will fill the Pro field, then what is the point? Aren't you still wanting AM's to show up? And if the MSDGC is on that same weekend, the event is going to have trouble attracting enough pro's to fill it and then the reliance on AM's will be even more prevalent. I most likely will come either way (depending on what the rest of the Pittsburgh Crew does), but I think that you guys should also not underestimate the importance of AM players. Sure there are some baggers, but there are mostly players who are obtaining valuable experience in a competitive field in hopes of becoming good enough to play Pro. 95% of the AM players that show up for the event will not have a chance to compete with the Pro Field.

Marshall Street is August 18,19 this year FYI.

So now that the WVO is pro only whats is the an event going to be called. You cant call the WVO thats just not right.
And for all that disagree with it being pro and ams spilt up in different months there is no need to complain do to the fact that its going to get you nowhere. So what is the point. Just think the only really cool thing the ams will miss is the final 9 and watching amazing players play some great golf at a great course!!!

A date on this am event (with no name yet) would be nice.




West Virginia Am Championships- June 23-24

hmmmmm... can't decide which i'd rather be "morgan county big cup am champion" or "west virginia am champion" ;)

Yeah you guys are all right. I should move up to the pro division for the event so that I can play and party. I should also throw in additional money so that I can have a chance to win some plastics with all the rest of the AMs that move up. I am not arguing with you guys at all. But if what you are banking on is that all the AM's will move up to Pro and that in essence will fill the Pro field, then what is the point? Aren't you still wanting AM's to show up? And if the MSDGC is on that same weekend, the event is going to have trouble attracting enough pro's to fill it and then the reliance on AM's will be even more prevalent. I most likely will come either way (depending on what the rest of the Pittsburgh Crew does), but I think that you guys should also not underestimate the importance of AM players. Sure there are some baggers, but there are mostly players who are obtaining valuable experience in a competitive field in hopes of becoming good enough to play Pro. 95% of the AM players that show up for the event will not have a chance to compete with the Pro Field.



Very well said..

Part of the allure of Paw Paw is the extreme challenge. This is often a humbling experience for newer developing players. That's a good part of the reason I came back. The party is always a great time (rain or no rain..) Take this away from half the field that's been supporting the tournament does not seem right.

As Bob said, for all the guys out there saying "just move up", I guess following that philosophy there will be no Women's divisions or Masters, GM, etc..since all the players should simply "move up." Kinda hypocritical if you want to make it Pro only, but expect only Ams to move away from protected divisions, not other protected Pros.

Please understand I'm not ranting to ruffle any feathers. I have nothing but gratitude for the TDs/decisionmakers of this 1st class tournament. I wouldnt be as upset if it werent one of my favorite tournaments every year.

Please take my comments as coming from a lowly AM2 player, relatively new to the sport without any history of progressing the sport. I'm simply speaking on behalf of the Ams who enjoy playing the course. I'm slowly learning how much goes into running a tournament, so please do not think my complaining is ungrateful.


Frederick Doot

i still haven't heard what the big deal is about having to playing open. your arguments (not drunkentroubadour specifically) sound like you think you're not allowed to play at all. i simply can't understand why someone would decide not to go to WVO just because they can't play am.

btw... your comparison of the am division to pro protected divisions makes no sense in this case. if you are a 40 yr old am, play masters, women am, pro women, etc. "moving up" may not be the right terminology. just consider it "playing open" for this event.

Ams are in "protected" ratings based divisions. Masters, GMs, etc are in age protected divisons. You're forcing the Ams to play Open by making the tournament Pro only, but not the Pro Masters, etc.

As far as the Ams moving up. It's one thing for a 950 Advanced player who on a really good day might break into cash at an A-Tier, but look at last year's results.

I cannot compare scores because Ams Pros played on different courses during different weather, so let's look at Rated Rounds (I understand there's some fluctuation here too, but it's close.)

It took an average rated round of 990.33 to cash in Open. The leader in Advanced (Naved) conceivably would have been the ONLY Am to cash in Open. The other 89 players were donators.

My point is that the ratings based Am divison give Ams a chance to compete with others of equal skill for a portion of each others' entry fee in the form of prizes.

As much as I love Paw Paw, Expecting an 868 player to compete in the same field as a 1028 player is silly. Fighting to break into the top 130 out of a field of 144 (while presumably even playing "well") is not reassuring. I'm sure you'd feel the same way.

Some pretty ridiculous statements. The reason some people go to a tournament AND the reason there are seperate divisions is for the competition. If it wasn't concerned about competition, the PDGA would have one division. That would be a disaster for the development of the game. Every major sport in the world has various divisions just for that reason.

You're asking AMs to make the case against PRO only. What's your case FOR PRO only since the standard tournament approach is to have PRO/Am divisions if sufficient people sign up for each division. If this is a situation where you expect AMs to fund the purse for the PROs, and be happy for the "priveledge" of playing with the best, and be expected to have an extra serving of that humble pie, that's BS. Find some sponsors if you want larger purses for the PROs. I'd have a better time playing the course some other time. As an AM, I don't go to a tournament to be a spectator who ooohs and ahhhs at the PRO talent. Pretty lame sticking it to the AMs because you can't raise purse money some other way.

Or make it a true PRO only event. If you're not in the PDGA PRO division, you can't play.

(aside... interesting that "oldschooldisc" has a pdga # 31111)

Last Yeer's WVO had 88 pros (if I can count correctly) and still a bunch on the wait list. I don't think it will have much of a problem filling pro-only.

However, I have no involvement with tournament decisions, so i can't speak for why.

Or make it a true PRO only event. If you're not in the PDGA PRO division, you can't play.



i think this takes the cake for ridiculous statements. there is no "PDGA PRO" division in the context that you describe. it's called open because it's open for anyone to compete. no ratings or age restrictions. so who exactly is in and not in the "PDGA PRO" division?

i'm starting to realize and agree with the rationale of the organizers the more i hear ams whine about it. perhaps they're just cutting back on the headache. as someone who has organized many types of disc events, i can't blame them at all.

btw, fred, i have been in your shoes. back when my rating was mid-800s, my favorite local course was host to a pro only event. i stunk up the joint. (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4015&year=2006&include_ratings=1#Open) but i still had a blast and that event isn't even half the fun of WVO.

if the organizers want to encourage am participation in the open field (or other pro divisions), perhaps they can reduce entry if your rating is below a certain threshold and there are really long odds that you'll cash (maybe <900). or maybe they just don't care. scaling back is probably a good thing.

I do not understand the problem. I do not think it is about the AMS funding the PROS. The WVO has always been about both competition and the unique social Experience. The AMS will still be given the opportunity for both, as well as the benefit of playing more than one event if time and money permit. Not to mention, they will be afforded the opportunity to play the WVO and spend Labor Day doing what "normal" people do - not that I remember what there is to do on Labor Day besides the WVO.

I believe both, the players and the staff, will benefit. The players will still compete in a large field while most likely playing in groups of 4! The staff will not have the logistics of basically running 2 tournaments simultaneously!

At previous WV Opens,I have had great times "oooing and ahhhing" pro talent. How could you not watching Tyler, couple of years ago,playing; Craig,on hole 18 in the final 9, going over the road and hyzering in by the basket; and countless others.

You always have the opportunity (not sure about the permission) to play the course some other time as an AM.

Doot, what's the problem? You didn't really even compete in AM2, what difference would it make in pro?! (jk - nothin' but love, Doot)

Look at it this way, Ams, I have played the past two years in pro at Paw Paw (despite only coming in last-cash three years ago in AM1) because Paw Paw will humble you no matter what. And if you play with the pros, your rating will be at least 10-20 points higher, if you care about ratings. (It's true - two years ago it was exactly ideal conditions, but the pros, having higher propogators, scored almost 20 points higher for the same round)

And as for naming the Am-only event, how about the Paw Paw Wap Wap, making it the only palindromic (and likely accurate) tournament name out there? ;)

Some pretty ridiculous statements.

Yes indeed, here is one I found.

Pretty lame sticking it to the AMs because you can't raise purse money some other way.


Nobody is getting anything "stuck" to them as far as I can tell. There is going to be an AM tournament at Paw Paw that will pay out disc merchanside and crown a West Virginia AM champion. Also, since the AM tournament will be on a seperate weekend, there is a very good chance that the AM field will be very large (I'm betting on 75 advanced payers). To me, this is a win-win situation for everyone.

At previous WV Opens,I have had great times "oooing and ahhhing" pro talent. How could you not watching Tyler, couple of years ago,playing; Craig,on hole 18 in the final 9, going over the road and hyzering in by the basket; and countless others.




word. my favorite part of WVO is carrying around my big cup and enjoying the finals. CG's shot over the road on 18 was priceless. how about ronturner yanking his drive to the right side of the road during the finals from WS1? :D i don't think i've ever seen a disc go further. the gallery had a combined ooooooooooh and laugh on that one.

I think this is a good thing for the WVO overall.
Pros--
Foursomes (fivesomes at PP are brutal)
No Pros left out due to a full field (maybe)
More camping space due to less people
Not as many young, drunk hooligans
Shorter award ceremony

Cons--
I can't go with Frank or Greg :p


I have a few questions though (as usual). Who is playing what courses? i.e. Open on one course and Masters/GM/Women on the other course? What if there are more than 72 Open that enter? How could the entire Open field play the same courses at the same time?

I also think that entry fees are way too high still. $100 bucks is insane if you ask me--and that's coming from someone that usually cashes there. I think $60-75 for A/NT level is pushing the limit. Entry fees shouldn't be so high that it keeps people from coming. Just my opinion

And as for naming the Am-only event, how about the Paw Paw Wap Wap, making it the only palindromic (and likely accurate) tournament name out there? ;)



The Onomatopoeic Palindromic Paw Paw Wap Wap

I think I'm getting a boner..

Brilliant!

Ams take Labor Day weekend and the Pros can have June..deal?

Oh yeah, and we need Tyler, Mose, Gangloff, Mitch, and Ron Turner for the Am's gallery final 9 (the pros dont compete over the weekend, just play a final nine for the Ams to ooooh and aaahhhh over..)

Oh yeah, and we need that urinating dog too..

I think this is a good thing for the WVO overall.
Pros--
Foursomes (fivesomes at PP are brutal)
No Pros left out due to a full field (maybe)
More camping space due to less people
Not as many young, drunk hooligans
Shorter award ceremony




All I am saying is that this statement here is saying that AM's are not important and that Pro's should be the focus. Thats messed up. And young Drunk Hooligans is what Paw Paw is all about. I mean who doesn't know about the story of writing on Viper? and who out of the ones who do didn't enjoy themselves writing on him?

And as for the award ceremony, what are you going to shorten it by 10 minutes? I mean, you are still going to have basically the same amount of people getting paid out. What you will cut is the amount of time needed to allocate the AM funds to the payout (picking plastic). But heck, I'm just an AM TD so I don't know.

Oh yeah, and we need that urinating dog too..


That dog went #2, I was 15' away.

My Only point is that I agree with the decision and the courage by the tournament director/s to make this a Pro only event. Realistically it is probably the future of the tournament. However, I am also disappointed because I freaking love this tournament and have had a blast playing in it, but more importantly, partying at it wooo hooo. In all reality I will be venturing out over Labor day weekend to play as a pro in the event, even though I don't have a shot of cashing.

Oh yeah, and we need that urinating dog too..


That dog went #2, I was 15' away.



Can we then say he's the only living thing to ever deuce Woodshed 18 during tournament play?

I have that on video...that would be an "eww.." not an "ooo"

Can we then say he's the only living thing to ever deuce Woodshed 18 during tournament play?



classic!

he "dropped" a deuce

Can we then say he's the only living thing to ever deuce Woodshed 18 during tournament play?



That was a 1000-rated joke my friend.

Can we then say he's the only living thing to ever deuce Woodshed 18 during tournament play?



That was a 1000-rated joke my friend.


Hell, it was a 1000 rated deuce!

No dates on the PDGA schedule, yet...
and I'm hearing all sorts of rumors. :confused:



labor day weekend, pro only, field limit 144 is the current plan i believe.



Let me begin by stating that there has been no "official" announcement. Having said that, let's assume Biscoe is correct and Tony wants to split the field to separate tournaments...ams in June, pros in September.

I know it's been stated previously, but this would be the perfect opportunity for an amateur players who enjoy the whole Paw Paw experience. The professional divisions will not have the luxury of playing both events, however, amateur players will have that option.

When I first heard the rumor of the split field/separate tourneys, I was a bit disappointed....I've got several amateur friends I enjoy seeing at the WVO. Giving it further consideration, however, I think it's the right move for all players involved:

* Amateurs have their own weekend, thus, am divisions could be HUGE by having two courses available for competitors.

* Pros have their own weekend which will probably result in a larger field. Because it would be a pro-only, we will see numerous amateur players pony up to play with the professionals ( and enjoy that Paw-Paw experience one more time than the pros ).

If, indeed, the fields are split to seperate weekends, WVO organizers will need to decide how to handle ams playing pro. They could keep it simple by charging the same entry fee regardless of player classification. Another option would be offering a "Trophy only" division for ams who step up to play in the Open division. The way I understand it, amateurs who register to play in the Open division pay a discounted entry fee and a trophy is awarded to the top finishing amateur player(s). These amateurs cannot win cash, even if they finish in the money....they're simply playing for the bragging rights and the amateur trophy. A "trophy only" division sounds like a good way to add money to the Open field. Likewise, an amateur wanting to "test the water" in the deep end doesn't have to cough up a C-note for a chance to swim with the big fish. Of course, any amateur could pay the full entry and play to win some of that mountain money.

If you ask me, the ams are the big winners here....

Over the past five years the WVO has filled prior to the event, causing us to create a waiting list (More logistics). Inevitably every year people on the waiting list don't show up knowing WVO is full and think there is no way of getting in. Registered players don't show for some odd reason or another, thereby allowing Vince & Adam to get in, even though both of them are at the bottom of list. Thus causing the WVO not to fill. By having WVO & WVC, the two events will allow larger fields for PRO's and AM's alike. Playing in foursomes will make rounds move more smoothly and much more easier to flip player scorecards between rounds. Camping issue, if you have not noticed on Labor Day ends up with is well over 250 people, granted, Spencer & Gabi have lots of land for the Two Golf courses but we are packing campsites in like sardines.. and just how many outhouses do you think there are anyway?. Over the yeers' Susi Wooden Minis have generated much money for the WVO but the attraction to the WVO mini's has seemed to have died, leaving us looking for different ways to generate money. Corporate sponsorship is difficult due to our remote location. We add money through Hole & Disc Sponsorships as well funds out of pocket in order to attract high profile disc golfers (that sounds funny writing that!). The many years of running large well funded tournaments has taken it's toll on us and we are looking for way to make life easier without detracting from the allure of the event. Yet, we have made certain concessions, as the WVC (June AM event) will now be a two day event, which means Susi and I will be running an event and won't even get to play! (that hurts).

Don't worry (Beth) there will be trophies for all the divisions there have always been...Amateur Champion and Woman Amateur Champion - given at the WVC ------
Open Champion, Master Champion and Woman Champion - given at the WVO.

Seems the AM's will get the best of the deal...as they will get the option to play both events.

The same format from the WVO will apply to WVC only with smaller total field,

Brake down of format for The Woodshed & Whippin' Post - 72 players per course Flip Flop for Three Rounds

WVO (West Virginia Open) Labor Day
72 Total MPO - play: Woodshed-Whippin' Post-Woodshed
72 Total MPM - MPG - FPO - FPM play: Whippin' Post-Woodshed-Whippin' Post
Ratings will be interdivisional (from within) and sorry no comparisons between divisions

WVC (West Virginia Championship) June
72 Total MA1 play: Woodshed-Whippin' Post-Woodshed
72 Total MA2 - MM1 - FW1 - FW2 play: Whippin' Post-Woodshed-Whippin' Post

Thanks for the official announcement, T! Sounds like it's gonna be an awesome yeer on "Broke-neck Mountain". :D

Bring on the pre-registration...

I like it!!!!!!!!!! should make everything run a lot smoother.

Does this mean no more Kitty Kat? I wanted to go for the trifecta :D

Registered players don't show for some odd reason or another, thereby allowing Vince & Adam to get in, even though both of them are at the bottom of list.


lmao :D :D :D

Maybe you should move the P jousting tournament to the am weekend so that you and susi will have something to do. :eek:

What of the USDGC spots? I guess masters will not be in contention this time as they will play differant layouts.

i heard they're giving them to the ams in june.

Move up! :)

Not to take anything away from Tony Ellis, but I'm still very disappointed.

I took my girlfriend to the WVO last year (it was her first EVER disc golf tournament), and she drudged thru the rain all weekend learning the sport and looked forward to playing the course for her first time enjoying her heartaches with the pro friends we've met, including an Ex-WVO Winner, WVO cashers, etc..Seeing the top pros compete during the Final Nine is one of the HIGHLIGHTS of any tournament I've ever attended (most AMs would agree..)

not so much anymore though..

These decisions are official it seems, and it's a shame.

Travelling from far away, part of the the decision making process was getting the extra day for travel here/there during labor day weekend..WVO is (well, WAS) a fixture amongst players in the northeast (AM and pro), but now it's dedicated to pros..

**** shame we're not at a level to compete for the pro only event during Labor Day weekend...not likely we'll be missed, but a poor decision for the sport of disc golf in general, me thinks..

good luck to ya..

- doot

What about the Mike T's stage show????? Is he going to make the haul for both events when he can play only 1????? That alone will take a lot of luster out of the late night fun!!!! Seems that when the rounds are over there will be a bunch of watching the grass grow WV style?!?!?! I mean there is No tikie golf, No pool, No "JG" (that is a show all buy it's self!) Not much of anything to do? Are there any taughts on that end?

No "JG" (that is a show all buy it's self!)



Ah, yes....the JG "Walkabout"...
http://img4.glowfoto.com/images/2006/09/05-1304065963T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=05-130406L&y=2006&m=09&t=jpg&rand=5963&srv=img4)

This pro will be attending both tourneys :D

What of the USDGC spots? I guess masters will not be in contention this time as they will play differant layouts




Exactly!

That is my favorite part of the whole deal! Could this be the thing that forces Slim Jim Myers to play open? Eh, he'll probably be qualified by then anyway.....

You are right the AMS are the big winners. If they are reluctant pay to play competetively or merely for fun(for the most part disc golf is still fun); they can attend for the festivities and play rounds with their friends in between and after rounds. However, There should be no special treatment or division for anyone. If AMs want to play in the PRO event, as any other PRO. Fortunately, there will likely be alot more pros for several reasons:
1.No waiting list, so everyone gets in
2.Players are able to make a last minute decision to play (some people are not able to commit to a whole weekend far enough in advance to register in time to get in)
3.Additional, Advance players will be playing for fun or to "test" their skill level

Therefore, the more pros... the more payout!

Personally , I would not mind letting advance players that cash, be permitted to take the value of their winnings in plastic(although that may be considered special treatment- oh well...anyway that is ultimately Tony's decision). Tony hibernates in the winter, so when it is a little warmer we may get a statemnt from him. Besides, I believe he has already made his decision and he is kicked back enjoying all this banter.

Personally , I would not mind letting advance players that cash, be permitted to take the value of their winnings in plastic(although that may be considered special treatment- oh well...anyway that is ultimately Tony's decision).



From the "PDGA Tour Player Classifications and Divisions" document located here (http://www.pdga.com/documents/2006/06DivisionsGuide.pdf) :

"A player also relinquishes amateur status by accepting prizes in lieu of prize money (cash) for placing in a professional division at a PDGA event."

So that probably wouldn't be a good idea...

What, did you memorize that thing, Bigs? :)

Personally , I would not mind letting advance players that cash, be permitted to take the value of their winnings in plastic(although that may be considered special treatment- oh well...anyway that is ultimately Tony's decision).



From the "PDGA Tour Player Classifications and Divisions" document located here (http://www.pdga.com/documents/2006/06DivisionsGuide.pdf) :

"A player also relinquishes amateur status by accepting prizes in lieu of prize money (cash) for placing in a professional division at a PDGA event."

So that probably wouldn't be a good idea...



That's just silly, and I've seen it done in the past w/out repercussions..

It seems like more evidence to dissuade Ams from moving up to Pro. I mean, how much of a difference is it for an Am to walk away with a stack of plastic playing as an Am, or to walk away with a stack of plastic in a Pro divison. Afterall, they're not receiving cash, just prizes as they do in Am divisions..

silly, silly, silly IMHO..

That's just silly, and I've seen it done in the past w/out repercussions..




The PDGA has tracked down and handled all reported incidents. It's kind of difficult to hide it on the TD report unless the TD flat out says an Am "in the cash" did not accept anything and then turns around and actually provides it on the side.

I tend to agree the policy doesn't make sense if an Am pays the full Open entry fee. However, I would hope the Ams are getting to enter as Trophy Only players and thus shouldn't be earning cash or merch.

That is my favorite part of the whole deal! Could this be the thing that forces Slim Jim Myers to play open?



exactly...again! You guys are quite smart. This would be akin to us changing the final two years back to add woods holes to add some finesse to the final instead of all out brut force! Sorry Tyler.

i never thought it was possible, but this AM is looking forward to WVO more than ever before!

foursomes! WHOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! 222 days and counting!

I stand corrected and I also agree (it is silly), thats why if you want to play for trophies or plastic play the AM event. If you want the atmosphere of the pro event without the competetion, come labor day weekend -just bring twice as much beer.

I guess it was a good thing a never received my TD's test I paid for with my PDGA renewal last year

There is one more perk with this scenario...


the Pro's don't have to deal with D.A.M.

What, did you memorize that thing, Bigs? :)



Eh, just kinda one of those things I've looked up before. Only took about 30 seconds of "research" to find the document.

Fats, you going to the VA Open? I've never been, but I signed up. It's a long ways away, but maybe we could drive down together?

In more recent news, you hitting up the Rutgers Ice Bowl? Or is that pesky work thing more important?

so is the am champs going to ba an A tier as well or is it going to drop in status due it only being an am event

will the WVO be a usdgc qualifier? the VA open is this year so i'm just wondering if that took it's place?

WVC - B Tier (I think)

WVO - USDGC Qualifier, but only for Open...Masters will have to qualify somewhere else or play open and try to qualify with the BIG DOGS!

<sigh> thanks for the clarification Tone Tone. It's appreciated (i think) Hmmm me beating Lisa Warner in Pro Masters is probably NOT going to happen.......decisions decisions. Craig's thought for me was I could have a caddie for the Am tourney if I caddied for him for the Pro tourney. Hmma caddie at Wap Wap that could be good...eh????

Move up baggers. Money = Cash. Plastic and prizes = Money.
Plastic and prizes = Cashing.

Move up baggers. Money = Cash. Plastic and prizes = Money.
Plastic and prizes = Cashing.



:o

That's a courtesy violation!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I appreciate the explanation as to why you want to go Open Division only. You need to make sure the workload is at a level that the people organizing the event can handle. Sounds like you�ve been going for 5 years trying to do the work of an army of people.

The WVO is one of the most popular tournaments in the Mid Atlantic region and you should be getting support from the fans of the event. I�m surprised that you don�t have sponsorship interest for such a popular event. It would be nice if one of the disc manufacturer�s steps up with some cash for the purse for an event that has done so much to promote the sport that they make money off of. We�re not talking about a lot of money.

I�ll be ordering a WVO Sponsorship Mini to help with that. Other fans of the event should do the same.

That's a courtesy violation!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Whoah..there's like a fairway there..how come I never saw that?

That's a courtesy violation!!!!!!!!!!!!

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LMAO....if only Kev knew how to get on the internet to see this! :D

Take a good hard look...cause that is all you will see of Kevin this year!!!

Take a good hard look...cause that is all you will see of Kevin this year!!!



Why do you say that?

Whoah..there's like a fairway there..how come I never saw that?



with better shots you might see more fairway :D

Why do you say that

His actions last year bought him a sabatical for this year.

Why do you say that

His actions last year bought him a sabatical for this year.



he's in "time out" ;)

too bad- i love playing golf with kevin.

Does Kev know that.......I think the other parties that got in a fight that weekend should have the same rule applied.....That was just as disrespectful to Spencer IMO.....should be interesting to see that play out Mr. Susi! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Not to say Kev doesn't deserve what he gets sometimes but being kicked out of an event when you are in Second or Third place is punishment enough in my eyes for what he did. Nothing really harsher has been done to anyone else, and I have been on the fore front of that issue before. But that is the TD's discretion I understand on not allowing him back.

However I would hope that Mela and the �other party� are not going to be there this year also for bloodying someone else�s nose and fighing. This is far worse in my eyes! Whether it was done during a PDGA round or NOT should be irrelevant, he struck another PDGA member on Spence�s Private Land and players should feel safe, and I hope Mela is not getting any special treatment because he is basically a "Hommie". Mela and Spence are lucky they are not dealing with a civil court case for that happening during a sanctioned event with people living for the weekend on Spence�s land. (To me I see this as someone sliping and falling in your yard and getting hurt. That party has every right to sue you.) There has got to be some liability there. There should be NO reason to strike another player at any time in my eyes. All that I ask is that if Kev is out then make it fair across the board WVO peeps.

I do feel the comment was off base about not seeing him there this year. I thought this stuff is not suposed to be on here anymore. I do not see a comment about Mela that way nor would I ever from you, because it is Mela. Be fair.

kevin is just as much a wapwap "homie" as joey imo.

btw one of the most fun rounds i ever played up there was with you 2 (ben and brad), stan mcdaniel, and that kid dave hero. i believe that was the year of the red thong underwear and "i'm coming for you art peters".

BTW, If someone replies to my post just know that I am having surgery tomorrow and will be unable to post back for a few days. I will not be "ducking" anything I have posted. Maybe I will treat you all to pic of me wearing Tampons up my nose after tomorrow! :lol: Good Evening.

Wow. Looks like I picked a good year to not attend.

What about JG fighting with a tractor implement? I don't remember JG or the implement being banned?

As for that "art peters" character... Team Blue Ridge is still looking for him...

Spencer and I really did not want to air out the laundry in this manner. The Short but sweet, Spencer spoke with all parties involved in events that transpired 2006 Labor Day weekend. Then informed two players they where not allowed to attended until 2008 event.

Tony has spoken!...there you have it.

WVO pre-registration....where do we sign up? :D

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I do not see a comment about Mela that way nor would I ever from you, because it is Mela



I made the comment, because someone put a pic of Kevin.

The going's on at the past West Virginia Open left a bad taste in my mouth and left me very disillusioned and unfocused as to where the WVO will be going in the future...almost to the point where I didn't want to do this anymore. But then I realized that his WAS the 13th WVO and I've now chalked it up to "Bad Luck".

I saw it all from start to finish as I was lucky enough to be right near that group, and all I can say is that it should have never ended up the way it did......and I will keep quiet about it. I agree that both parties are equally responsible for what happened on the course. What happened after the rounds is all on the hands and conscience of 1 person, and it's not camp ohio. I lost a lot of respect for a disc golf legend that day........but with that said............MAYBE WE NEED TO BAN THE TEQUILA, and make this a NON-PDGA EVENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and after all..........I'll be back for more good times, good fun and good people. SUSI we want the trucker balls next year so you better get up there for some of the amazing cooking done by MARIE at Camp PGH.

What I really want to know is, when can I sign up?

Drunk men fighting...... As American as apple pie. WVO 07!!!!!!!!!!! Make love to the future, fukkkk the past.

What I really want to know is, when can I sign up?



Tony is waiting for our sister tourney, The VO, to fill (should happen in the next week or two) then he will open up the reg. for the WVC and WVO.

There is one more perk with this scenario...


the Pro's don't have to deal with D.A.M.




:D:D:D:D:D :D :D

I saw it all from start to finish as I was lucky enough to be right near that group, and all I can say is that it should have never ended up the way it did......



"I'll bet you a hundred bucks you weren't there!"

:D

WVO pre-registration....where do we sign up? :D

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Yeah, where do we sign up at?

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nice one Jerry.....lol. You had to be there to get that one.

Verrry funny jerry

CB

I am a recent member of the PDGA. The reason is because I stopped playing before they existed and just recently (Spring 06) got back into it. At least I wasn't aware of PDGA back in 1983. I started playing "Frisbee" in 1973 and started playing disc golf in 1978 with lids and continued through somewhere around 1983 when there were just a few golf discs made. Didn't play for 23 years. Went back to my first course and a few guys from 1983 were still playing - they never stopped. Talk about a flashback. Does that qualify as Old School?

old school, hell man, thats true school

registration is now open for wvo and wvc

i registered for the WVAC, are we going to get our own thread or should we just clutter this one up?
:D

I will probably play both, hey rich did you register for Masters ?

paid in full for pro open!!!!! woohoo. Can't wait. I think this will be my 5th WVO!!

i registered for the WVAC, are we going to get our own thread or should we just clutter this one up?
:D



get your own so the pros who are excluded will have somewhere to #$*&$! about it. ;)

shark- i don't believe you are eligible for adv masters.

Yes, after I posted I realized that my rating of 938 may not allow an Am Masters registration, I guess I will suck it up and play Advanced. :DBTW where is that info again? Thanks.

there's a link on the front page of this site- 2007 tour documents or something similar.

Thanks, I checked it out pros of age and <915 may play advanced masters, lucky for the Dr and Hawk they are Ams as their ratings are both over 915 ..... :eek:

Of course Ams over 39 with ratings over 914 can still play Adv Master. But a rating over 914 is the "official" PDGA mark when others can start calling them "baggers" :D

I thought the rating limit was like 950ish...or is that for Adv. Am. not Adv. Master?

I'm just trying to figger out where I'm gonna sandbag?

so where do i go to sign up for wvc

I thought the rating limit was like 950ish...or is that for Adv. Am. not Adv. Master?

I'm just trying to figger out where I'm gonna sandbag?



955 for advanced, 915 for advanced old. don't you mean teabag?

so where do i go to sign up for wvc

wvc registration and sponsorship (http://wvc.eventbrite.com/?invite=MjEzMTYvamJpc2NvZTJAZWFydGhsaW5rLm5ldC8w%0 A)

thank you john

So I guess I'll be sandbaggin (um, I mean teabaggin) the little boys.

Sing up for WVO and WVC www.westvirginiaopen.com (http://www.westvirginiaopen.com)

teabaggin) the little boys.




Yikes, do I need to moderate that?

No moderation needed.... I do everything to EXCESS! ;)

PRO Event on Labor Day Weekend - www.wvo.eventbrite.com (http://www.wvo.eventbrite.com)

AM Event June 23-24 - www.wvc.eventbrite.com (http://www.wvc.eventbrite.com)


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how come "pro" is capitalized and "am" is not? more disrespect for the ams, hmmmm????

PRO Event on Labor Day Weekend - www.wvo.eventbrite.com (http://www.wvo.eventbrite.com)

AM Event June 23-24 - www.wvc.eventbrite.com (http://www.wvc.eventbrite.com)


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Sorry, its out there and you can never take back. Its not bare season Tony, you should know nude golfers can't think clearly in the cold (when they are typically hibernating for the winter)

Can you post the flyer please. I'm not paying the 2$ to do it online...Yes I am frugal :D

Beth - that would insinuate that we actually HAVE a flyer done.

YOWZA! I am regy-steered. Now I have to see about getting another one of those BE-YU-TE-FOOL wooden minis! :cool:

Well Susi get busy babe........ :D:D

how come "pro" is capitalized and "am" is not? more disrespect for the ams, hmmmm????



In spite of this obvious slight The Greatest Show In Disc will be there in June.

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Hacky Sack or the West Virginia Hoe-Down?
You decide...

That is the pre-lims for penis jousting...what you see is, Jack and Kevin sizing each other up, before they draw their weapons.

I'm not in the picture because, due to the size of my weapon, I drew a bye for the first round.

That is the pre-lims for penis jousting...what you see is, Jack and Kevin sizing each other up, before they draw their weapons.

I'm not in the picture because, due to the size of my weapon, I drew a bye for the first round.



LMAO.... :D:D:D

Is Kevin the unofficial mascot of the WVO?

Come on, get it UP, and register now.

Just wanted to update everyone that the WVC is now 130 days away and WVO is 200.

www.wvc.eventbrite.com (http://www.wvc.eventbrite.com) - June 23,24 - AM Event
www.wvo.eventbrite.com (http://www.wvo.eventbrite.com) - September 1,2 - Pro Event

I am currently working on newer websites for both events and hope to launch closer to the end of the week.

We love you Tony, oh yes we do
We love you Tony, and we'll be true
When we're not with you, we're blue
Oh Tony, we love you!

And the flyer?

And the flyer?



2nd request for a flyer in 15 days....what's happened with the customer service in this place? :D

And I'm OUT! This sucks. This will be the first WVO I've missed in four years. And I have two conflicts, so even if one conflict falls through, I have the other. *sigh*

I made the flyer this weekend...tony should have them up on the website soon...he's been revamping the website, so cut him some slack.

I'll let him know there are some Technology misfits who don't want to sign up on line.

the czech is in the male.

Lady, I am still working on the website updates but if you must insist on the flyer you can visit the site.

www.WestVirginiaOpen.com (http://www.WestVirginiaOpen.com)

or goto the online registration page

www.wvo.eventbrite.com (http://www.wvo.eventbrite.com)

I wanna go! Bump it up a week! :-D

Beth - here are the flyers...

PRO- http://www.westvirginiaopen.com/PDF/14thIIWVOflyerfront.pdf

AM-
http://www.westvirginiachampionships.com/PDF/1stWVCflyerfront.pdf

Enjoy...

Props Tone!!! The web pages look great, and the survival guide is hill-arious :D

Thanks and sheesh how hard was that :D

Yeah, Sorry we couldn't get that to you sooner!

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Looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the rock!

I guess I too dumb to actually get a picture to show up on this bored.

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Birdie Hole!!!!

Happy Birthday TeeScum - Our Wooden Mini Man ..

See I do care!

happy birthday mark. :)

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122 days till the 2007 (WVO) West Virginia Open - 52 Days till the First (WVC) West Virginia AM Championships

This weekend is the 10th Anal Annual-ver-city tournament out in Paw Paw, WV. Saturday will be singles play with a round on each course cost will be $20 per registrant for Saturday's event.

Sunday's premier event MIXED ALTERNATE SHOT DOUBLES, bring your own partner of the oposite sex or maybe yopu will be on the disc next year in all of your cross dressing glory cost for Sunday is $20 per team.

hoo-wee we gonna have a hoot-n-nanny! don't be skeerd...cross dressing is a WV form of relationship counseling...after seeing all those untanned hairy beer guts, your wife and/or girlfriend (Baaaa) starts looking reel good!

bring your sunglasses and wheel see ewe there

You all would rather write a 1 word story, than talk about Cross dressing in WV...I'm losing faith in this constituency!

You all would rather write a 1 word story, than talk about Cross dressing in WV...



Huh?

:D

don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about!!!

I for the first time will be cross dressing as my women have abandonded me for this tourney...I was looking forward to trying to break 100 with my 6 year old daughter. But alas there is a mother daughter banquet on Sunday.

Anyone who would like to view the courses before the WVC or WVO should come on out this weekend.

Just a quick note to the few people waiting on WVO mini's (gary and ray)...I'm in a state of flux right now...I just finished building a three car garage, which one of the bays will be my new shop. We just passed final inspection on Tues... and now I need to move my shop out of the basement and into the garage...so a couple more weeks and I'll get them done.

There are two other besides Ray and Gary waiting...don't worry I haven't forgot about you...I just don't remember the names

What, me worry??

I am just bummed out that I won't be able to make the WVC, I was going to come down, camp out, and let Tony use me for whatever he wanted. But it ends up being the same weekend as the PA State School Bus Rodeo, and seeing that I took 1st place in the local competition, I have to go up to State College and get qualified for nationals that same weekend!

let Tony use me for whatever he wanted.



that's a scary thought... :eek: :o

Anyone who would like to view the courses before the WVC or WVO should come on out this weekend.



So.....

Who won the Anniversary tournament? Who won Doubles? :confused:

Bryan, Bryan &amp; Rachel

the real contest is "who will be on next yeer's stamp!"

And who won that, remains to be seen!

I dressed (or lacked there of) as a Burton's Girl. If fact I'm still trying to get "Eat at Burton's" off my toucas...those sharpies are pretty darn permanent!

I dressed (or lacked there of) as a Burton's Girl. If fact I'm still trying to get "Eat at Burton's" off my toucas...those sharpies are pretty darn permanent!



DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON

INFORMATION OVERLOAD

MY SENSORS DO NOT COMPUTE

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^^^^Tony is saying "how hard you gonna make me pull?"

No telling what he's raffling off. Or maybe he's not raffling off.....

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Moser on the Woodshed's hole #2 during last yeer's WVO finals.

Virginia HAM...I mean SPAM!

7th SHENANDOAH SHAG
SIGNAL KNOB DGC in Strasburg Virginia
JUNE 17th 2007 PDGA C-TIER

ENTRY FEES:
ALL OPEN DIVISIONS $40
ADVANCED AM $35
INTERMEDIATE $25
RECREATIONAL $20
(ALL Intermediate and Recreational Divisions receive disc+mini+sticker with entry)

TIMES:
9:00 CHECK-IN 9:45 PLAYERS MEETING 10:00 START
(Pre-Registration is suggested and will be updated on the PDGA site daily)

CONTACT:
Brandon Bailey
703.401.4616
baileyx@adelphia.net

INFORMATION:
Added CASH in OPEN divisions�Ace-Pot�CTPs�Trophies
2 rounds of 22 holes @ SIGNAL KNOB DGC

DIRECTIONS:
Call or e-mail Landon Furlong at 540.465.4907 - theductor@yahoo.com





Checks Payable to - Brandon Bailey - 20344 Burnley Square - Sterling VA 20165

Thank you for supporting the SHENANDOAH SHAG !!!

I heard a rumor that J Gary Dropcho is going to be at this yeer's WVO... :D

Brandon can you post directions here to Landon's course?

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81 days 'til this yeer's WVO!

DIRECTIONS&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

FROM Route 66.....take 81 South, for about 2 miles...Exit 298 for Route 11...take RIGHT onto Route 11....go about 500 yards and take LEFT onto Quarry RD....about 100 feet take LEFT onto Oranda RD...go about 2 miles and take RIGHT onto OLD FACTORY RD. (gravel / dirt road)....follow road straight to course....*(stay RIGHT of large tree)...

problems, or lost ??.....call Landon at 5404654907

Brandon

Also....there is a Shenandoah Shag thread available.....in the PDGA Tournament Info section...

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I case you missed it on the front page:

The city of Port Arthur has voted to destroy a big piece of disc golf history.
I grew up playing this park and would like to go back and share it with my kids one day.
There are 10,552 current PDGA members, lets get 10,552 signatures.
Just sign it!!

http://www.petitiononline.com/cetb175g/petition.html

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The Woodshed or the Whippin' Post?

SAve Paw PAW...send us money so we can break even! It bothers me that the PDGA is "on Board" to save a DG course!

I sure hope they stand behind US when the going gets real tough.

i just sent you'uns some money. that dawg on the left looks like mine, the other one sure is fetching too. are they cousins? (insert toothless grinning emoticon here)

SAve Paw PAW...send us money so we can break even! It bothers me that the PDGA is "on Board" to save a DG course!

I sure hope they stand behind US when the going gets real tough.



mark- you know we will stand behind you- that's what cousins are for.

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60 days and counting... :)

What are you counting on? Most of us caint count higher than 19...(all the fingers and toes!)

My count is based on the total number of trees I think Dave Olcott will hit during his two Saturday rounds at this yeer's WVO. :eek:

What are you counting on? Most of us caint count higher than 19...(all the fingers and toes!)



I thought a West Virginia handful was 6? Maybe I don't want to see thier toes! :p

45 days!

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Woo Hoo....I'm in!

and you are already in the usdgc...well done.

feel free to beat me.

Thanks for the permission this year Ronnie! :D

The is NO better place to be then in Paw Paw, West Virginia on Laborday Weekend!! Competing for the last USDGC Spots available

We just wanted to inform you there is only 36 days till we celebrate the 2 Annual 14th West Virginia Open - PRO event held in Paw Paw, WV. All you Boys if you don't register in the next 6 days you will not save 20 bucks.

Our field will be 144 total players playing in Foursomes, Currently we only have 82 Spots available 35 for OPEN PRO Players and 47 Babes, Old Men and Really OLD MEN.

Friday August 31st BYOP Doubles will be held on Friday starting at 10:00 am $50.00 per team Two Rounds one on each course

Friday August 31st Night Time Barn Music by Trappasso Grange All Stars

Player check in is REQUIRED at Woodshed by 8:30 am Saturday Morning September 2nd. As soon as you arrive locate your player card on score board sign it give the card to staff. 8:31 the waiting list is opened any player not checked in will receive a refunded only if a player on waiting takes their spot.


Saturday Night Barn Music Trappasso will open up the music followed by Jack

Please don't use online mapping services ie (yahoo,mapquest,google) they are not correct, use linked PDF map with written directions http://westvirginiaopen.com/PDF/MaptoPawPaw.pdf

www.wvo.eventbrite.com (http://www.wvo.eventbrite.com)

one day i will get back to the hillbilly fest...

Saturday Night Barn Music Trappasso will open up the music followed by Jack





Just Jack!!! ?

Sorry.... and Friend!

oh and inbetween doubles Friday and "Jack &amp; Friend" come down to the pond..there's going to be a wedding :D:D come on down for cake and champagne :D

Who's getting hitched?

i'll be there for the celebration...just got married myself 3 days ago.

congrats ron!! :D

you too, secret couple!! ;) :D

Tis no secret...Craig and I...I know everyone already thinks we are married...but now it will be official :D:D CONGRATS RONNIE TURNER woohoooo

Congratulations, Beth! :)

(you too, Ronnie...)

thanks guys....congrats to you too beth and craig.....

off to florida wednesday for the honeymoon...couldn't quite convince her that highbridge would be a good destination ;)

I Googled "Paw Paw West Virginia" and found this. (http://www.exmsft.com/~seanse/pawpaw/)

:)

http://img3.glowfoto.com/images/2007/08/03-0239091536T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=03-023909L&amp;y=2007&amp;m=08&amp;t=jpg&amp;rand=1536&amp;srv=img3)

Jerry that used to be our website...that guy (Sean) works for Micro-Soft and was in town about 10 years ago...played the Woodshed and feel in love with it...he created and dedicated a website to it's glory.

we then contacted him and we using the site as our website until we got our stuff together and created one.

I noticed on his web site he referred to "letter" holes. Am I correct in assuming those where additional Woodshed holes which eventually became the 18-hole Whippin' Post?

Yes those were first 9 of the Whippin Post.

The site still exists...but I don't think he has made any changes in several years.

http://img5.glowfoto.com/images/2007/06/12-0835195825T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=12-083519L&amp;y=2007&amp;m=06&amp;t=jpg&amp;rand=5825&amp;srv=img5)

24 days 'til the 2nd 14th Annual
West Virginia Open!

as of today looks like about 30 or so spots left for the LAST USGDC Qualifier before USDGC!!!!!

Plus this guy makes these really cool trophies!!!

This thing actually has a chance to fill at 144. When we switched to the PRO only format...we figgured we would have plenty of space for 144 pros....but whod-a-known?

sign up now...as we will not tolerate whiny procrastinators!!!

Currently we have ONLY 8 available for Open Pro players competing for the remaining USDGC Spots, 29 spots are still available for Really OLD, Somewhat OLD and the Very VERY Lovely Ladies. Our full field will be 144 total players split into foursomes playing opposite courses.

www.wvo.eventbrite.com (http://www.wvo.eventbrite.com)

Dog Days! http://www.sharkysshots.com/albums/userpics/10002/IMG_2262.JPG

is des really playing with the men?

Is Biscoe really going to attend the WVO this year? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :)

Give that dog some water!

Biscoe, Yes for now but she may switch division at a later date.

...as long as the back holds up for a few more weeks... for some reason i have always seemed to hurt myself in august...

Congrats on what looks to be a great turnout for the event.

http://www.wusa9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=61595

And you thought that we were rednecks!!!! Check out what they do in Texas!!!!

PS. we may DO the same...we just don't get caught!

http://www.wusa9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=61595

And you thought that we were rednecks!!!! Check out what they do in Texas!!!!

PS. we may DO the same...we just don't get caught!



I can easily imagine that dude in the photo (er, Redneck in the photo) doing a belly-flop into the Woodshed pond!

Redneck? http://www.sharkysshots.com/albums/userpics/10002/wvaopen20060061.JPG

wrong pond... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

http://img5.glowfoto.com/images/2007/08/11-0325277659T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=11-032527L&amp;y=2007&amp;m=08&amp;t=jpg&amp;rand=7659&amp;srv=img5)

http://img4.glowfoto.com/images/2007/02/12-0723004580T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/user_imageredirect.php?iid=1185007)

http://www.sharkysshots.com/albums/userpics/10002/normal_IMG_2281.JPG