7th Annual FlynHighDiscGolf.com Pecan Park Open
Lone Star Series Qualifier
PDGA B-Tier
Hosted by Team Disaster

Tournament Information
Team Disaster is proud to present the 7th Annual Pecan Park Open, April 1st and 2nd (PDGA B-Tier Pro and AM). The Open will once again feature four rounds on the beautiful Nacogdoches, Texas courses of Pecan and Pioneer Park. Following the tournament we will have a six-hole Pro/AM skins match featuring the top 4 Pros of the weekend (lowest score regardless of division), the top 3 AMS of the weekend (lowest score regardless of division) PLUS the BIG RAFFLE WINNER! The Open is once again a full PDGA B-tier.

FlynHighDiscGolf.com Lone Star Series Qualifier
Playing in this event qualifies you for the LSS bonus added cash at the Texas States National Tour Event on April 22nd and 23rd.

Registration Information
www.TitleDisc.com (http://www.TitleDisc.com) registration will be up in the next few weeks. In the meantime, you can pre-register by mailing your name, phone number, pdga number, address, your division�s name and amount, ace pot ($5), non-pdga fee ($5) if necessary, and a check to: John Edwards, 6014 Sanford, Houston, Texas 77096 (make checks payable to John Edwards). If you do not pre-register, sign-ups conclude at 9:00 AM SHARP on the day of the event. If you are there by 9:00 AM, you are IN!

Tournament Specifics
- Field is limited to 144 players for your enjoyment.
- All player�s (Pro and AM) who register by March 30th (MONEY RECEIVED) when titledisc.com closes will receive a Tournament T-shirt (all AMS will receive a towel).
- Raffle for tons of merchandise and a spot in the Pro/AM Skins Match
- Saturday Players Party!!
- Everyone plays 4 full rounds of 18 holes (2 rounds each on Pecan Park and Pioneer Park).
- 100% payout in quality pick your plastic for AMS and cash for Pro�s.
- Full Color Framed Trophies for division winners.
- $3 to the LSS Series Bonus payout.
- Players Meeting will be at 9:30 AM.

Divisions
Open - $63
Pro Women - $53
Masters - $53
Pro Grand Masters - $53
Advanced Women - $48
Advanced Masters - $48
Advanced Men - $48
Intermediate Men - $38
Recreational Men - $33
Recreational Women - $33
Optional Ace Pot - $5
Non-PDGA Member Fee - $5

Skins!
The format will be alternating shot. This makes for some very interesting putts for our AM skins match participants. Starting on hole one the Pro member of the team will shoot first and it will alternate every shot after that. If the Pro putts out, the AM will drive on the next hole. Once a hole has been �WON� or �PUSHED� there will be no more shots from the other teams.

We will use safari holes.
The format will be best-shot doubles. All score ties to determine skins participants will be broken with sudden death playoffs. Each of the six holes will be worth $25 each (cash to Pro�s/merchandise to AMS).

Volunteer and Sponsorship Opportunities
Anyone who wants to help out either day, we can always use an extra hand! Be sure to ask one of the TD�s what you can do to help. If you would like to volunteer or sponsor, shoot me an email for more information. uncdrummer@hotmail.com

Big Money Doubles
Friday afternoon doubles will be offered starting at approximately 4:00 PM. $15 per person ($30 per team) for AM divisions (Advanced, Intermediate and Recreational Men and Women). $20 per person ($40 per team) for Pro divisions (Open only). 1/3rd of the field will cash, and you will collect payout on Saturday.

By entering a Team Disaster disc golf tournament you agree to abide by all the rules and conditions of each event. The decisions of the tournament directors will be final. The tournament directors reserve the right to refuse entry, or disqualify players for infractions to these rules and laws. All PDGA rules apply along with any conditions detailed at each players meeting. Also by entering each event you hold no liability to the host city, tournament directors, sponsors, promoters, staff or volunteers.

Questions can be sent to: uncdrummer@hotmail.com
John can also be reached at: (832) 279-8084
Check out our web page at: TeamdDisasterDiscGolf.com

Who would be a good local to talk to up there about what condition the courses are in etc etc etc - - please shoot me an email or give me a call - - uncdrummer@hotmail.com, 832-279-8084 - - THANKS!

SUH-WEET!!!! Cant Wait!!!!

Hey, at least this one's up on www.titleDISC.com. (http://www.titleDISC.com.) I may play, but I think I'll take it a little easier Saturday night. I guess '03 was the last time I played this one, too. I do love East Texas in the Spring. :)

Early Reg list

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5673#Open

I will sign up the week of. Man this is fun. :D

AMS get a towel for playing - the shirt is for pre-reg.... (pro or am)

Skins again right? If so do you know how much it will probably be?

Thanks.

"Each of the six holes will be worth $25 each (cash to Pro�s/merchandise to AMS)."

Ok thanks

I can't wait to play pioneer with no mud!!!!!!!!!

Why in the heck would you think there will not be mud this year? Has something changed with those holes?

Flesner's got a point...it hasn't rained much over the last year. However I think Gimp is right. Most of the mud out there on Pecan and Pioneer is left over from when cave men played disc golf on them.

[Let me apologize in advance to any Geico cavemen that may be offended by the previous statement.]

$1,500 guaranteed ace pot... Get your sport early :D

Will aces on #6 at Pioneer count full or half? :)

Tony you have to ace that one twice to get the ace pot.

got an ace there last year and will be back for sure this year.

They will count for the full amount but this year we will be teeing off from across the street in the back of a pickup truck (just kidding) :D

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5673#Open

15 people are in - sign up early to save your spot, get a larger players pack and take a shot at the $1500 ace pot...

[bump]


Take note -- I am in AND have signed up for the ace pot. And if I take a cut of at least 1/2 this one, I'll go ahead and pre-pay ace pots for the rest of my life!

This event is on a sweet date...we're going to come back and take Monday off, then go to Opening Day of hopefully the best Rangers season ever.

Gimp, is there a hotel deal? The hotel from last year doesn't seem to be as cheap as it was last year...

Anyone from DFW want to get in on sharing a ride/hotel room? Two of us are going and will probably stay at the Comfort Inn near Pioneer Park. We are planning on leaving very early Saturday morning if just the two of us go, but would be open to Friday night if others went with us. We'll get a two queen bed room and bring either sleeping bags or share beds.

We did not have a hotel deal last year. I will see what I can find in the next few days.

How about camping?? Is it allowed? The weather should be great, camping is alot cheaper than a room!!

Hey Derek go to priceline.com, the past 4 years i have been able to get rooms for 35.00 a night.

Where did they put you Gary? Camping is not alowed at the parks. Anyone know of a campground up that way?

you can camp at Lake Nacogdoches, I am supposed to move that weekend and I have clients coming in from California supposedly. If I renew my lease and they cancel I will be there, $1500 ace pot at Pecan and Pioneer-someones getting paid. :D

New reg. list - get your money in so you get the free shirt - Pecan: http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5673#Open

i believe it was Laquinta.

I thought it was Best Western?

Any of you non-smokers want to share a room Friday and Saturday nights? I just signed up.

What about non SNORERS :D:D:D

might be chili, cant really remember.

I've reserved a room at the Victorian Inn on Bus 59, north of SFA. Two double beds, non smoking. $65 per night base. There's room for one more. If you're alergic to dogs, this won't work for you.

So did we get a hotel deal anywhere?

Chris my dad and I may want to split a room.

There has never been a hotel deal in Nach Jerry. They just won't cut a good one based on the time I spent on it last year...

Updated list - http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5673#Open

No problem sounds likes your panties are in a wad :mad:price line is the way to go.

Not at all, just answering your question :p

priceline did not get a bite on my 45buck request. Guess I'll have to up the bid.

Screw priceline - I went direct to Days Inn and got a room for $50. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

BTW: The comfort inn has received bad reviews by patrons lately.

Anyone interested in taping some stuff from Pecan for Disc Golf TV? If so shoot me an email and I will get you the specifics. Thanks for the Days inn info - anyone stayed there recently? I still need a hotel :o

Gimp

Anyone know the best way to nach from Austin???

hwy 71 to bastrop, take 21 west to crockett, then hwy 7 to nacogdoches-4 hours

Signed up yesterday on titledisc, I'll be there again :) The best hotel deals are on priceline.com

I take 290 to 21 and such. It has more four lane roads to pass the slow pokes. Chile goes up past Whacko and then takes a right. My only advice is to avoid 79. Too many two-lane highways where it is difficult to even drive the speed limit.

Heeeerrreee caddy caddy caddy. ;)

Well 38 people are excited about the $1,500 ace pot :D

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5673#Open

Remember to sign up by March 30th to get a shirt...

The best hotel deals are on priceline.com




Let me know how that worked out. As a priceline first timer, I was not comfortable with the restrictions.

Well 38 people are excited about the $1,500 ace pot :D

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5673#Open



Crap! Still the lowest rated advanced master. Guess I'd better start working on that. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Yes the fastest way for me is ( I live north Austin) I H-35 north to Waco then a right ( I believe it's hwy 6 need to check the atlas) all the way to Nac. Just do not cancel your reservation on priceline.

:)

Hwy 7 goes to Nac from Waco.

Hwy 6 goes to Houston from Waco.

Thanks Bender, from my house 2 1/2 hours ( fast)

what kind of price did you get on priceline Jerry?? Havent booked my room yet.

The problem with priceline I experienced is that you have no say whether you get two double beds or a king; smoking or non.

Gary - I went directly to the Days Inn web site and got 2 double bed rooms for fifty each.

I beleive that Joe Torres got our rooms at 40 bucks!! a night :)

Bump for the weekend! Still time to get the shirt for signing up early and don't forget the $1500 guaranteed ace pot :D

will there be DUBS on friday ????

Pecan

Who is going to be there early and is willing to run doubles? Anyone? New job is not letting me get away early... :(

I'll chech with my fellow road warriors. But I maybe able to run them dubs

hope you can Vinnie, there are three of us leaving Dallas early Friday and wanted to play in the Dubs.

Updated list?

one of the guys coming down (Jack Tabor) will need a adv. partner if there are any takers.

What is the expected turn-out for the tournament? Has it filled in the past? I am already registered, but was wondering what to expect since this is my first time at this tournament.

2001- 73
2002-134
2003-108
2004-102
2005-102

Oddly enough the last two years have had the exact same number of Pros(23) and the exact same number of Ams(79).

2001- 73
2002-134
2003-108
2004-102
2005-102

Oddly enough the last two years have had the exact same number of Pros(23) and the exact same number of Ams(79).



And we're sitting at 50-51 right now. Wouldn't be surprised to see 80 before Friday and then hit around 110-120 by tee off.

Now then, you players reading this not already signed up, prove me right! :)

Cool!! I love both of the courses and have never shot particularly well on them, but of course it has been almost 2 years since I played either one. This is going to be a great weekend!!!!!

I think Tony is right. We should hit around 120. About the same as the past few years, plus increased hype due to large ace pot. I think there are a lot of tourney players out there that haven't played in this one yet who don't know what they're missing. I know it's a few hundred miles away, but I would think the Bowling Green event might draw a couple of players away, plus the JDGF event at Z-Boaz might do the same since Nac has a traditional good DFW pull.

As long as advanced has 25 or so players, at least there will be good competition there.

I beleive (i would have to check with Gimp) that the titledisc regs are above last years at this time. I beleive there to have been 60ish total pre-regs last year going into Friday. I think Tony is right on for about 120 players this year.

Should be a good one and I dont think the acepot can possibly go unhit out there.

I still think it could be bigger than 120 with it being the last LSS qualifier before states and tons of added cash to grab at States, esp. in AM. two very fun courses and a great city to hang out in Sat night at the players party.

It is not too late to pre-reg and get the free shirt as well. Let me know Vinnie 832-279-8084

This was updated last night- no clue how I did not get the link up lmfao - http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5673

51 is HIGH for this point it will be interesting to see how many we end up with...

Man, after Moody's this past weekend, PPO with be, quite literally, a walk in the park. I may not play/putt any better, but a least I won't feel like I got hit by a truck when it's over. I'm off Friday. Can't wait. I think I'll stay away from the B-52s this year. :o ;)

Updated - http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5673#Open

Oh yea - going to have some new ESP plastic at Pecan with the tourney stamp - that stuff is supposed to be sweet...

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5673#Open

Up to 74

Please spread the word that we will be meeting at Pioneer on Saturday at the big pavilion at the top of the hill. Tourney central will be at Pecan on Sunday. They changed the pavilion rules during the middle of the year and there is a birthday party at pecan around noon - - grrrrrr :cool:

Jayme and I will be there Friday. So let the local law inforcement know I will be back in town and don't want any trouble.
Attention golfers....there is no drinking allowed in the parks

Vinnie, are you playing master this weekend? It was good to see you at Moody's and again this weekend.

Looks like only a quarter inch of rain fell on the parks yesterday. Shouldn't be too muddy!

Does anyone know of any other ladies who are planning to attend who aren't on the list?

nah...I is playin open

And in a few weeks..........you'll be surrounded by girls who think you're the MAN! :D

I hope you are right......Ed and I want to see 80 ladies

Vinnie is a real man. He pees standing up. :D

ps. He tells me this all the time. I haven't actually witnessed it.

John, what is the latest time one can sign up? Sorry if it has been posted.

Nevermind John, I see that it is clearly posted as 9:00 on saturday. :p

"sign-ups conclude at 9:00 AM SHARP on the day of the event. If you are there by 9:00 AM, you are IN! "

I am Glad Vinnie will be here this year and that we will not be going up against the awesome women�s event! :)

I believe there are a few locals playing Susan, but I doubt they will be playing Advanced :(

:( Don't any Dallas ladies make this event?

New Discraft EPS Surge to the person who guesses closest to the total attendance without going over - one guess per person and you have to have your guess in by Friday night at midnight. Yes you have to play the event to be eligible for this contest :D

http://www.discraft.com/prod_surge_e.html

I�ll start 102 (the last two year�s attendance without a $1,500 ace pot :D)

139

118

106

If you know someone who is 100% going to be there but not signing up until the day of the event please post here so I will be prepared Saturday morning. (and yes to get a shirt you have to titledisc by Thursday afternoon, not just post). It will help me get the players meeting off on time and get us to the player�s party faster. We could still get a crazy number of signups on Saturday and be close to 150 � I am just not sure at this point�

Thank you for your help...

Right now I know of:
Vinnie Miller

Anyone else?

"Big Money Doubles
Friday afternoon doubles will be offered starting at approximately 4:00 PM. $15 per person ($30 per team) for AM divisions (Advanced, Intermediate and Recreational Men and Women). $20 per person ($40 per team) for Pro divisions (Open only). 1/3rd of the field will cash, and you will collect payout on Saturday."

Susan will not be taking doubles entries until around 4:00 so leave her alone to practice before then :D

123 :)

122.. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif What course will dubs be on? BTW robbie I will play.

Doubles at Pecan - tourney central on Saturday at Pioneer

jayme calis will be playin open.
Comin up with me

I take 114 for a ESP Surge Bob!!

118 and I believe Pete Lopez will be there as well

For Scott Rozanski, a confident:

Hey can't post on pdga board so i'm putting in my guess here and someone can post it for me there 127

107

121

124.5

:)

124.5+.5=125

:)

126---Yeti
130---Des

We are very excited to make it back to Pecan and Pioneer. Two very fine courses in Eastern Texas.

We will have available the best disc golf DVD produced to date with the 2005 MSDGC. 3 hours of hot disc golf action out at the private disc golf farms of the Southwicks in Massachusett's.
We will also have a very special surprise for you all to have a crack at. Lookin' forward to it..........on the road again.......... :D

Sweet! I am glad you all are making it! :D

Is Des playing with the guys? :D

No - I hear she'll be playing with the ladies - see ya'll Friday :D :p :cool::)

Yeti is right. It is a great video. Something about the way that commentator yells BIRDIE! is a little annoying, but other than that, it's a great video. :D

See you guys this weekend.

Cware I got 118, Gimp, Pete Lopez will be there, I'm gonna sign him up on titledisc.

Pete lopez count is 142.

Ware can we get a weather report? Thanks

dang it change it to 132 is that open?

weather:
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</td></tr><tr><td>Mar 31 Isolated T-Storms
</td></tr><tr><td> 82�/63� 30%
</td></tr><tr></tr><tr><td>Sat
</td></tr><tr><td>Apr 1 AM Clouds / PM Sun
</td></tr><tr><td> 83�/62� 20%
</td></tr><tr></tr><tr><td>Sun
</td></tr><tr><td>Apr 2 Isolated T-Storms
</td></tr><tr><td> 86�/60� 30%
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Sweet the Esp surges are so nice! BOOOM!!!! ill say 127 if nobody has already!!! sweet Matt lets show them Ol Folks!!!

Anybody need a doubles partner?

PT is comin down with us (Paul Testa) dont think he has one yet, I will look for you when we get there.

weather:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Fri
</td></tr><tr><td>Mar 31 Isolated T-Storms
</td></tr><tr><td> 82�/63� 30%
</td></tr><tr><td>Sat
</td></tr><tr><td>Apr 1 AM Clouds / PM Sun
</td></tr><tr><td> 83�/62� 20%
</td></tr><tr><td>Sun
</td></tr><tr><td>Apr 2 Isolated T-Storms
</td></tr><tr><td> 86�/60� 30%
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>



And little rain has fallen there this week.

Hope the grass on Pioneer got cut...

The city said they would take care of the grass, lets hope they had a chance. CFles you are playing this event now?

Through the effort of Mr. Rick Bannister from FlyNHighDiscGolf.com we have a small group of local sorority girls that are going to caddie. It will be on a first come first serve basis, $15 per round with tips accepted, so be there early to secure a caddie...

The TD staff will not be handing this, all the money will go directly to the caddies.

Titledisc will close sometime EARLY tonight so get your entries in asap. We will be taking entries the day of the event as well through 9:00, but get there early and help out the TD crew if you are going to register the day of.

If Susan is nice she will also take registrations at Friday doubles, but you better bring exact change :)

Yes, for those who will be out Friday afternoon, I'll be taking registration.

Help us, help you, and sign up Friday if you can at Pecan Park when paying for doubles and such.

Please do try to have correct change or even better, write a check.

<font color="blue"> </font> Count me N !!!!!

$15 per round with tips accepted.



I had to go back and reread that. I thought you had typed in Lips accepted :cool:

$15 per round is a little high. Are you sure it is not $15 per day?

Have you ever known any "cheap" greek gals?

It goes against everything they aspire to be. :D

Yes its expensive, but there will only be 10-14 of them, so I am sure someone will take them up on having a caddie... We shall see...

Just out of curiosity, does a round only mean a round of disc golf? I could see where $15 could be a bargain...

;)

Otherwise for $15 a round they should include a 12-pack or so.

PS Gimp, did you get my email? JT said you needed those maps and that we were possibly shifting around some of the holes so as not to play through the mud...

I think that it's part of the course! Plus since there hasn't been much rain, they shouldn't be any worse than before...but whatever you decide is cool.

****, that's a $10 per round jump from what it used to be. Good thing I'm building myself a new cart for this weekend.

Maybe we can talk them down to $10 - It will prob. be worth it. Are you sure it was only $5 a round a few years ago???

Yes thank you for sending the maps!

Hello, hello to any Austinites heading down tommorrow. Wanted to caravan, drive, or split a hotel room. Any takers? Call my house, 512-443-7942. I think Kansas is leaving tommorow for sure, but if anyone else wants this weekend to cost a little less, let's get it together.

Micah

I know that the muddy holes can be a pain, but what is the Pioneer park without slop??? If you are lookinf for a discussion, my preference would be to play it as it lies. However, if you need baskets, Tyler can round up enough for you.


PS Gimp, did you get my email? JT said you needed those maps and that we were possibly shifting around some of the holes so as not to play through the mud...

I think that it's part of the course! Plus since there hasn't been much rain, they shouldn't be any worse than before...but whatever you decide is cool.

I think it was $10 (maybe $15) a day a few years ago, but it's been a while since I've been out there. I've got to work this weekend, so I'll miss it again this year.

Wow two people say play the slop... Interesting as I have had many MANY complaints about it over the years which is why I am thinking of changing those holes around a bit. The only thing it would "mess up" imo is hole 14 which would be split. I kind of like that hole in the AM divisions. 12, 15 and 16 would be gone along with 14. Anyone else want to weigh in fast before I decide? I need to call Jeremy to line up the Tyler baskets that were offered for this project (thanks Mr. Powers for offering as well).
12 is the island hole and 15 is the hole that shoots down the hill into the trees and 16 is the hole that shoots back up the hill.

Does anyone know how deep the much is this year????

I would rather not ruin another pair of shoes this year. :( Just my two cents.

Are you playing.

Ya.

Was worried no other open players would be at Z-Boaz.

Cool see you there. :D

What do you think Matt?

Change em. They weren't that great of holes anyway :D

You bunch of whimps!!


Change em. They werent that great of holes anyway :D

I don't care but I would've liked to change 12 and 13 even if they weren't in a swamp. There is nothing wrong with a little change.

Looks like I'll be down for this one...signing up when I'm finished here. Kim

125 Speaks to me!

Anyone from Austin going tommorrow?

Micah

play it like it is so we now what the real course record is and it does not mess up ratings Olse is on FIRE /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif. :DPlease dont break holes up.

Ratings are calculated off the scores shot not the course configuration. We are not mucking though the mud this year. Is olse coming???

Updated list - http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5673#Open

PLUS 23 other people who are said to be coming plus countless others...

ma1 2
ma3 3
junior 6
mm1 1
mpm 2
mpo 8
fw1 1

$250 added in cash and over $2,000 added in merch -

Play them as is. Redesign some other time.

What are the OFFICIAL (tourney) records, anyway? I am guessing -12 at Pecan and -10 at Pioneer.

play it like it is so we now what the real course record is and it does not mess up ratings Olse is on FIRE /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif. :DPlease dont break holes up.



Bring in a bunch of hay to create a walk path and area around the basket. If you park it cool! If you don't, you get muddy feet.

BUt if you still want to change them up, I'ld be willing to offer some design suggestions Friday after 5pm.

I would rather not play in the slop.

Great to hear you'll be there Kim!

I would rather not play in the slop.



I would bet the caddies are not going to be too cool with the idea of messing up their shoes either.

While I'm on the subject. I remember the greek caddies costing $20 a day (which included the tip). Not many came back Sunday, cause they all ruinened their shoes Saturday.

Was actually $20 (tip not included) for the weekend. Gotta love the wayback machine :)

Not many caddies going to be there so if you want one find Rick Bannister EARLY... BTW THANKS Rick!

No idea on tourney records since all that was lost when apo dropped the tourney...

Thanks for the offer on helping with design, but I won�t even have left Houston by 5:00 today :( That is why Susan is running doubles. She will be looking for a qualified volunteer to mark the tee boxes.

The hole changes include the total elimination of 12 and 15 the splitting of 14 and a hole playing to 16�s baskets :)

Would anyone be willing to mark Pioneer Saturday morning that has a clue about tee box placement?

Gimp, I got in touch with George Avery, he will be bringing the stuff up for me. I'll see about making it out there Sunday to help, doubt it, but we'll see.

The last year it was $10 for sure (it went up) and this is not a service frat that is doing it :o

He knows it has to get there EARLY Saturday right???

Did you get hold of Jeremy about baskets?


Not many caddies going to be there so if you want one find Rick Bannister EARLY... BTW THANKS Rick!

No idea on tourney records since all that was lost when apo dropped the tourney...

Thanks for the offer on helping with design, but I won�t even have left Houston by 5:00 today :( That is why Susan is running doubles. She will be looking for a qualified volunteer to mark the tee boxes.

The hole changes include the total elimination of 12 and 15 the splitting of 14 and a hole playing to 16�s baskets :)

Would anyone be willing to mark Pioneer Saturday morning that has a clue about tee box placement?

He is bringing it up there today. I dont know if he will be there when you are though. I'll let him know to be as early as possible if he cant get it to you today sometime.

Yes, flags are in my car, and I'm headed that way within the hour.

As for a little mud, come on now, who's got virginal cleats anyway? You got to pick up a little mud to take back home anyway. :D

So are you going to change the hole layout? was a little unclear. :confused:

Gimp - if you simply need boxes flagged, I'll do Pioneer this evening. Don't think I'm playing dubs, and Sonny Boy wanted to walk through Pioneer as he has not played the course yet.

I'm leaving work now. :DReach me in route at 409/771-3212

Come on now Fuzzy how many times do I have to tell you I don't have room for them in the truck lmao :o

I will be screwed if he does not have em to me by 7:30 or so Sat. morning.

Course changes on Pioneer after 11 you will not play 12 but move to 13

Hole 14 will become two holes

Hole 15 will not be played

there will be a new tee to hole 16

"old" hole one will come back near new hole one :D

Yes, Tyler is bringing the two needed baskets - THANKS!

Well, it's the only option. If he cant get there by 7:30 sat but can get them to you today then I am sure you can find one of the 130+ people that are there to put them in there vehicle til morning...lol

Nice try at trying to get me up there though ;)

Just got off the phone with Gail Ripka from Victoria, she's packing up and heading our way.

Yes! Another Advanced Lady!

Cool is she staying with you? Rick must have given her your number. HUGE rec women's field too...

Yes, and I know this is thread drift, but we ordered the dog tag bottle opener bag tags this morning! Going to be sweet!

New Discraft EPS Surge to the person who guesses closest to the total attendance without going over - one guess per person and you have to have your guess in by Friday night at midnight. Yes you have to play the event to be eligible for this contest :D

http://www.discraft.com/prod_surge_e.html

I�ll start 102 (the last two year�s attendance without a $1,500 ace pot :D)



I am changing my guess to 145 :D

"Big Money Doubles
Friday afternoon doubles will be offered starting at approximately 4:00 PM. $15 per person ($30 per team) for AM divisions (Advanced, Intermediate and Recreational Men and Women). $20 per person ($40 per team) for Pro divisions (Open only). 1/3rd of the field will cash, and you will collect payout on Saturday."

Susan will not be taking doubles entries until around 4:00 so leave her alone to practice before then :D



Doubles at Pecan - tourney central on Saturday at Pioneer

What are the OFFICIAL (tourney) records, anyway? I am guessing -12 at Pecan and -10 at Pioneer.


It is 8 at pioneer and like 10 or 11 at Pecan

This is a hard one, since you have the $1500 ace pot and the local crowd may come out in full force, but I am going to guess that it will be closer to 132.



New Discraft EPS Surge to the person who guesses closest to the total attendance without going over - one guess per person and you have to have your guess in by Friday night at midnight. Yes you have to play the event to be eligible for this contest :D

http://www.discraft.com/prod_surge_e.html

I�ll start 102 (the last two year�s attendance without a $1,500 ace pot :D)



I am changing my guess to 145 :D

This is a hard one, since you have the $1500 ace pot and the local crowd may come out in full force, but I am going to guess that it will be closer to 132.



New Discraft EPS Surge to the person who guesses closest to the total attendance without going over - one guess per person and you have to have your guess in by Friday night at midnight. Yes you have to play the event to be eligible for this contest :D

http://www.discraft.com/prod_surge_e.html

I�ll start 102 (the last two year�s attendance without a $1,500 ace pot :D)



I am changing my guess to 145 :D





146.... :)

Up to 125 already time for guessing is over but you will have a spot if you are here before 9:00 - - EARLY please - - meet at Pioneer!

Dang, I should have played, I was one off on my guess.

147 are out there battling it out.

Only good score I heard was Jerry Powers shooting a -8 at Pioneer. Nice shootin Jerry, should help you on your quest for a mountain of plastic ;) :D

If I am around tonight Ill see if I can get a few scores to post up about.

Oh, no mention of the acepot being hit so far, but I forgot to ask.

I heard of the following Round 1 Scores at Pecan Park:

-11 Joe Torres
-7 J.D. Ramirez
-7 Vinnie Miller
-6 Robbie Bratten
-4 Jay Reading
-4 Matt Hall
-2 Dagon Owen

Those were the only scores I heard, there very well could be others scattered in between those.

Here are some rumored results (not at all official) after the 2nd round:

Joe Torres -18
Vinnie Miller -14
JD Ramirez -14
Then there is a large group at 9.

<table border="1"><tr><td> Doubles</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Adv</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Avalos Avery</td><td>43</td><td>$90.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Karsey Brigm.</td><td>46</td><td>$60.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Watts Saver</td><td>49</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Lews Paige</td><td>49</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Lockwood Jones</td><td>49</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Open</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Braten Hall</td><td>43</td><td>$100.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Owen Reading</td><td>43</td><td>$100.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Flesner Coleman</td><td>45</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Tabor Testa</td><td>47</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Burch Richardson</td><td>51</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Rec</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Adams Bardsoey</td><td>46</td><td>$90.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Gaby Chapman</td><td>50</td><td>$60.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Rose Stout</td><td>50</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Smith Scanb.</td><td>52</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Burch Lightfoot</td><td>54</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Int.</td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>McDonald Houston</td><td>46</td><td>$80.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Dorsey Garner</td><td>48</td><td>$40.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Smith Patton</td><td>49</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Dodge Siga.</td><td>54</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

I don't have the link for the tourney entry on this laptop....

<table border="1"><tr><td> Hole </td><td>Course </td><td>Div </td><td>Place </td><td>Name </td><td>Rating </td><td>R1 </td><td>R2 </td><td>R3 </td><td>R4 </td><td>Total </td><td>Payout
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>1</td><td>Joe Torres </td><td>983</td><td>43</td><td>47</td><td></td><td>90</td><td>$331
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T2 </td><td>Vinnie Miller </td><td>986</td><td>47</td><td>47</td><td></td><td>94</td><td>$265
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T2 </td><td>J.D. Ramirez </td><td>999</td><td>47</td><td>47</td><td></td><td>94</td><td>$200
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>4</td><td>Jayme Callis </td><td>979</td><td>52</td><td>44</td><td></td><td>96</td><td>$160
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>5</td><td>James McCaine </td><td>970</td><td>52</td><td>45</td><td></td><td>97</td><td>$135
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T6 </td><td>Jay Reading </td><td>1013</td><td>50</td><td>48</td><td></td><td>98</td><td>$115
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T6 </td><td>Chris Flesner </td><td>988</td><td>50</td><td>48</td><td></td><td>98</td><td>$95
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T6 </td><td>Chris Farnham </td><td>981</td><td>49</td><td>49</td><td></td><td>98</td><td>$80
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T9 </td><td>Joe Hague </td><td>972</td><td>52</td><td>47</td><td></td><td>99</td><td>$65
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T9 </td><td>Paul Testa </td><td>948</td><td>51</td><td>48</td><td></td><td>99</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T9 </td><td>Matt Hall </td><td>988</td><td>50</td><td>49</td><td></td><td>99</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T9 </td><td>John Jennings </td><td>953</td><td>48</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>99</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T9 </td><td>Steve Hemmeline </td><td>977</td><td>48</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>99</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>14</td><td>Dagon Owen </td><td>1000</td><td>51</td><td>50</td><td></td><td>101</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T15 </td><td>Michael Ynfante </td><td>939</td><td>52</td><td>50</td><td></td><td>102</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T15 </td><td>Pete Lopez </td><td>951</td><td>51</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>102</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T15 </td><td>Steven Lawty </td><td>939</td><td>50</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>102</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>18</td><td>Robbie Bratten </td><td>960</td><td>48</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>103</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T19 </td><td>Jay Walsdorf </td><td>951</td><td>60</td><td>46</td><td></td><td>106</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T19 </td><td>Chris Ware </td><td>958</td><td>52</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>106</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>T19 </td><td>Clint Hilligist </td><td></td><td>51</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>106</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>22</td><td>Kenny Truck </td><td>909</td><td>55</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>107</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>23</td><td>Wesley Burch </td><td>796</td><td>55</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>115</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPO </td><td>24</td><td>Chris Higginbothani </td><td></td><td>60</td><td>62</td><td></td><td>122</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPM </td><td>1</td><td>Jerry Perez </td><td>975</td><td>48</td><td>46</td><td></td><td>94</td><td>$200
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPM </td><td>2</td><td>Randy Greywoolf </td><td>983</td><td>48</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>99</td><td>$140
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPM </td><td>3</td><td>Russell Banks </td><td>926</td><td>50</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>102</td><td>$90
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPM </td><td>T4 </td><td>Robert Fournet </td><td>901</td><td>50</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>104</td><td>$40
</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPM </td><td>T4 </td><td>Alex Hughes </td><td>982</td><td>49</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>104</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPM </td><td>T4 </td><td>Richard Ahlgrim </td><td>931</td><td>48</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>104</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPM </td><td>7</td><td>John Taylor </td><td></td><td>52</td><td>53</td><td></td><td>105</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPM </td><td>8</td><td>Louis Hall </td><td>921</td><td>54</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>106</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPM </td><td>9</td><td>Rick Richardson </td><td></td><td>54</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>110</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MPM </td><td>10</td><td>Richard Gutzman </td><td>908</td><td>57</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>116</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>Pecan </td><td>FPO </td><td>1</td><td>Des Reading </td><td>963</td><td>52</td><td>53</td><td></td><td>105</td><td>$166
</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>Pecan </td><td>FPO </td><td>2</td><td>Emily Brown </td><td>849</td><td>59</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>120</td><td>$85
</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>Pecan </td><td>FPO </td><td>3</td><td>Laura Coffey </td><td>850</td><td>64</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>123</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>Pecan </td><td>FPO </td><td>4</td><td>Emily Lawrence </td><td>834</td><td>60</td><td>65</td><td></td><td>125</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MG1 </td><td>1</td><td>John Sullivan </td><td></td><td>56</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>112</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MG1 </td><td>2</td><td>DwightPhillips </td><td></td><td>61</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>121</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MG1 </td><td>3</td><td>Lyndon Lightfoot </td><td>839</td><td>62</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>122</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>1</td><td>Ian Hovey </td><td>957</td><td>48</td><td>49</td><td></td><td>97</td><td>$180
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>2</td><td>Paul Roman </td><td>917</td><td>49</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>100</td><td>$160
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T3 </td><td>Micah Winters </td><td>935</td><td>50</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>101</td><td>$115
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T3 </td><td>Mark Nolan </td><td></td><td>48</td><td>53</td><td></td><td>101</td><td>$100
</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T5 </td><td>Thomas White </td><td>918</td><td>50</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>102</td><td>$85
</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T5 </td><td>Scott Rozanski </td><td>925</td><td>49</td><td>53</td><td></td><td>102</td><td>$70
</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>7</td><td>Michael McBee </td><td>944</td><td>53</td><td>50</td><td></td><td>103</td><td>$60
</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>8</td><td>Brian Pearson </td><td>940</td><td>49</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>104</td><td>$50
</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>9</td><td>Brad Wells </td><td>910</td><td>53</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>105</td><td>$45
</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T10 </td><td>JT Peebles </td><td>939</td><td>53</td><td>53</td><td></td><td>106</td><td>$40
</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T10 </td><td>Guillermo Avalos </td><td>929</td><td>52</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>106</td><td>$31
</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T10 </td><td>George Avery </td><td>917</td><td>51</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>106</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T13 </td><td>Rob Engle </td><td>950</td><td>56</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>107</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T13 </td><td>Scott Coleman </td><td>944</td><td>55</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>107</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T13 </td><td>Derek Henry </td><td>941</td><td>53</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>107</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T13 </td><td>Tony Bender </td><td>945</td><td>51</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>107</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T17 </td><td>Todd Brigance </td><td>896</td><td>54</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>109</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T17 </td><td>Tim Egan </td><td>928</td><td>53</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>109</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T19 </td><td>Alan Wang </td><td>895</td><td>55</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>110</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T19 </td><td>Benjamin Raley </td><td>808</td><td>55</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>110</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T21 </td><td>Dan Page </td><td></td><td>57</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>112</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>T21 </td><td>Dan McGough </td><td>928</td><td>53</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>112</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>23</td><td>Jeremy Lockwood </td><td>911</td><td>57</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>116</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>Pecan </td><td>MA1 </td><td>24</td><td>Stephen Roe </td><td>586</td><td>60</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>118</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>Pecan </td><td>FW1 </td><td>1</td><td>De\'atra Hunter </td><td>845</td><td>54</td><td>64</td><td></td><td>118</td><td>$100
</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>Pecan </td><td>FW1 </td><td>2</td><td>Gail Repka </td><td></td><td>63</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>121</td><td>$80
</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>Pecan </td><td>FW1 </td><td>3</td><td>Megan Burch </td><td>718</td><td>65</td><td>66</td><td></td><td>131</td><td>$60
</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>Pecan </td><td>FW1 </td><td>4</td><td>Kat Bender </td><td>802</td><td>64</td><td>69</td><td></td><td>133</td><td>$33
</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>Pecan </td><td>FW1 </td><td>5</td><td>Susan Macaluso </td><td>774</td><td>66</td><td>68</td><td></td><td>134</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>Pecan </td><td>FW1 </td><td>6</td><td>Michelle Deering </td><td>740</td><td>67</td><td>71</td><td></td><td>138</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>Pecan </td><td>FW1 </td><td>7</td><td>Robin Lightfoot </td><td></td><td>70</td><td>74</td><td></td><td>144</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

<table border="1"><tr><td> 5</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>1</td><td>Erik Soete </td><td></td><td>51</td><td>47</td><td></td><td>98</td><td>$115
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>2</td><td>Rob Dawson </td><td>914</td><td>53</td><td>49</td><td></td><td>102</td><td>$100
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>3</td><td>Shaine Power </td><td>905</td><td>52</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>104</td><td>$90
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>4</td><td>Josh Garner </td><td></td><td>55</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>106</td><td>$80
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>T5 </td><td>Steve Dodge </td><td></td><td>53</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>107</td><td>$65
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>T5 </td><td>Bobby Siritanapivat </td><td></td><td>53</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>107</td><td>$54
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>T7 </td><td>Neal Martinez </td><td>906</td><td>56</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>108</td><td>$47
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>T7 </td><td>Casey Guthrie </td><td></td><td>54</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>108</td><td>$41
</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>T9 </td><td>John Edwards </td><td>875</td><td>55</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>109</td><td>$37
</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>T9 </td><td>Derrick Stout </td><td></td><td>54</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>109</td><td>$34
</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>11</td><td>Brian Sudderth </td><td></td><td>56</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>110</td><td>$32
</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>12</td><td>Brad Brooks </td><td>894</td><td>55</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>112</td><td>$30
</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>T13 </td><td>Cody Smith </td><td></td><td>58</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>113</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>T13 </td><td>Ron Thompson </td><td>853</td><td>57</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>113</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>T15 </td><td>David Stallman </td><td>912</td><td>57</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>114</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>T15 </td><td>Tracy Wilson </td><td></td><td>55</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>114</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>17</td><td>Billy Williams </td><td>868</td><td>58</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>115</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>18</td><td>Tim Dorsey </td><td>884</td><td>60</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>116</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>19</td><td>Jerrod Seth Dougles </td><td></td><td>59</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>118</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>T20 </td><td>Eric Chapman </td><td></td><td>60</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>121</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>T20 </td><td>Adam Stallman </td><td>892</td><td>59</td><td>62</td><td></td><td>121</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>22</td><td>Ken Roycroft III </td><td>894</td><td>63</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>123</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>T23 </td><td>Doug Garner </td><td>880</td><td>63</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>124</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>T23 </td><td>Wesley Morrison </td><td></td><td>61</td><td>63</td><td></td><td>124</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA2 </td><td>25</td><td>William English </td><td></td><td>67</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>128</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>1</td><td>Keith Guest </td><td></td><td>53</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>111</td><td>$80
</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>T2 </td><td>Mike Gaby </td><td></td><td>59</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>113</td><td>$72
</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>T2 </td><td>Shawn Rose </td><td></td><td>54</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>113</td><td>$65
</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>4</td><td>Lance Steck </td><td></td><td>54</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>114</td><td>$55
</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>5</td><td>Gregory Winn </td><td></td><td>56</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>116</td><td>$45
</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>6</td><td>Brian Noriega </td><td></td><td>57</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>117</td><td>$37
</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>7</td><td>Brad Korando </td><td></td><td>59</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>118</td><td>$32
</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>8</td><td>Rick Bannister </td><td>806</td><td>58</td><td>62</td><td></td><td>120</td><td>$27
</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>9</td><td>Zac McDonald </td><td></td><td>59</td><td>62</td><td></td><td>121</td><td>$23
</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>10</td><td>Jerrold Killingsworth </td><td></td><td>62</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>122</td><td>$20
</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>11</td><td>Kenney Kosina </td><td></td><td>62</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>123</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>12</td><td>Justin Hurst </td><td></td><td>61</td><td>63</td><td></td><td>124</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>13</td><td>Derrick Pauli </td><td></td><td>60</td><td>65</td><td></td><td>125</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>T14 </td><td>David Lightfoot </td><td></td><td>65</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>126</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>T14 </td><td>Brad Lederer </td><td></td><td>59</td><td>67</td><td></td><td>126</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>T16 </td><td>Dustin Endsley </td><td></td><td>72</td><td>60</td><td></td><td>132</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>T16 </td><td>Jarred Martinez </td><td>735</td><td>69</td><td>63</td><td></td><td>132</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>18</td><td>Bobby Shepherd </td><td></td><td>68</td><td>67</td><td></td><td>135</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MA3 </td><td>19</td><td>Joe Conner </td><td></td><td>77</td><td>76</td><td></td><td>153</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>FW3 </td><td>1</td><td>Kim Kosina </td><td></td><td>64</td><td>72</td><td></td><td>136</td><td>$70
</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>FW3 </td><td>2</td><td>Patricia Stallman </td><td>722</td><td>68</td><td>72</td><td></td><td>140</td><td>$55
</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>FW3 </td><td>3</td><td>Bridget McDonald </td><td></td><td>72</td><td>69</td><td></td><td>141</td><td>$45
</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>FW3 </td><td>4</td><td>Nicole Cazares </td><td>642</td><td>76</td><td>67</td><td></td><td>143</td><td>$30
</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>FW3 </td><td>5</td><td>Sarah Buchanan </td><td></td><td>73</td><td>71</td><td></td><td>144</td><td>$16
</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>FW3 </td><td>6</td><td>Courtney Malek </td><td></td><td>70</td><td>78</td><td></td><td>148</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>FW3 </td><td>7</td><td>Chreyl Veech </td><td></td><td>73</td><td>80</td><td></td><td>153</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>FW3 </td><td>8</td><td>Kelly Barber </td><td></td><td>76</td><td>86</td><td></td><td>162</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>xxx </td><td>Pioneer </td><td>FW3 </td><td>9</td><td>Gail Gutzman </td><td></td><td>103</td><td>999</td><td>999</td><td>999</td><td>3100</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>1</td><td>Jerry Power </td><td>943</td><td>46</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>97</td><td>$180
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>2</td><td>Barton Taylor </td><td>926</td><td>51</td><td>49</td><td></td><td>100</td><td>$140
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>3</td><td>Jack Tabor </td><td>935</td><td>52</td><td>50</td><td></td><td>102</td><td>$105
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>4</td><td>David Vance </td><td>924</td><td>52</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>103</td><td>$80
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>5</td><td>Steven Parker </td><td>926</td><td>54</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>106</td><td>$70
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>T6 </td><td>Ed Morgan </td><td>920</td><td>54</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>108</td><td>$55
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>T6 </td><td>Cecil Larkin </td><td>932</td><td>51</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>108</td><td>$45
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>8</td><td>Gary Watts </td><td>908</td><td>51</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>109</td><td>$27
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>T9 </td><td>Steve Dufrane </td><td>910</td><td>59</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>110</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>T9 </td><td>Robbie Schroeder </td><td>904</td><td>54</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>110</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>11</td><td>Richard Rasch </td><td>928</td><td>57</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>111</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>T12 </td><td>Kent Bray </td><td>880</td><td>58</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>112</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>T12 </td><td>Lawrence Nance </td><td>924</td><td>55</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>112</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>14</td><td>John Hovey </td><td>929</td><td>57</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>114</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>15</td><td>Richard Lewis </td><td>886</td><td>58</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>115</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>16</td><td>Jake Walsdorf </td><td>914</td><td>59</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>116</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>17</td><td>AJ Jensen </td><td></td><td>58</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>119</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>Pioneer </td><td>MM1 </td><td>18</td><td>Brent Marcom </td><td>911</td><td>58</td><td>62</td><td></td><td>120</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Lunch </td><td></td><td>FJ1 </td><td></td><td>Reanna Schroeder </td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Lunch </td><td></td><td>FJ1 </td><td></td><td>Kayla Schroeder </td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Lunch </td><td></td><td>FJ1 </td><td></td><td>Holly Schroeder </td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Lunch </td><td></td><td>FJ1 </td><td></td><td>Kayleigh Trayler </td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Lunch </td><td></td><td>FJ1 </td><td></td><td>Sara Trayler </td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Lunch </td><td></td><td>MJ1 </td><td></td><td>Tim Scott </td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table> Juniors are playing 9 during lunch and I did not get the card yet.

149 total - There were some errors in pool assignment reporting. I'm sorry for the mistakes... The courses listed above are correct and there will be added time for everyone who has bad information to make it to the correct course in the morning. The 8:30 start time will likely be 9:00 after everyone gets to the right course.

One ace today by Bagger Sote - He will claim $1,600 if no one else scores Sunday :o

I think 1st prize in INT needs to be a PDGA membership :DThat dude beat me in INT at GCCS Finale like 3 years ago by like 5 strokes to take first. Maybe you could hold the PDGA membership fee out of his acepot :D:D

Heck, he would be in 2nd in MA1 - move up :D

Nice shooting by Jerry Power..looks like Tabor, Watts and Parker will have do do some quality shooting tomorrow to catch up to him

Stay in there PT..keep moving forward!

I know the PDGA has flattened payout etc but can Gimp please post how these payouts are done. Where was the $250 added put? 1st place Open seems very low for the amount of entry and the number of players.

Last week in Ingleside there were 12 Pro's paying $40 and 1st place was $350, 2nd $220. This had the same added $250 as a B-tier.

Not trying to start anything but I am sure I am not the only one asking the question. It is also good feedback for the new PDGA payout schedules?

Go get em Joe Torres :D

Hey Jerry Power I guess you decided to win some plastic this weekend and not cash. :eek: Good shooting.

Skins Match money is not in the payout totals above.

These are estimated round ratings....

<table border="1"><tr><td> Hole</td><td>Place</td><td>NAME</td><td>ROUND</td><td></td><td></td><td>TOT</td><td>EST. RATING</td><td></td><td>Points
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Ian Hovey</td><td>48</td><td>49</td><td></td><td>97</td><td>992</td><td>985</td><td>180
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Paul Roman</td><td>49</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>100</td><td>980</td><td>962</td><td>172.5
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Micah Winters</td><td>50</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>101</td><td>968</td><td>962</td><td>165
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Mark Nolan</td><td>48</td><td>53</td><td></td><td>101</td><td>992</td><td>939</td><td>165
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Thomas White</td><td>50</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>102</td><td>968</td><td>951</td><td>150
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Scott Rozanski</td><td>49</td><td>53</td><td></td><td>102</td><td>980</td><td>939</td><td>150
</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Michael McBee</td><td>53</td><td>50</td><td></td><td>103</td><td>934</td><td>973</td><td>135
</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Brian Pearson</td><td>49</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>104</td><td>980</td><td>917</td><td>127.5
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Brad Wells</td><td>53</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>105</td><td>934</td><td>951</td><td>120
</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>JT Peebles</td><td>53</td><td>53</td><td></td><td>106</td><td>934</td><td>939</td><td>112.5
</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>Guillermo Avalos</td><td>52</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>106</td><td>945</td><td>928</td><td>112.5
</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>George Avery</td><td>51</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>106</td><td>957</td><td>917</td><td>112.5
</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Rob Engle</td><td>56</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>107</td><td>899</td><td>962</td><td>90
</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Scott Coleman</td><td>55</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>107</td><td>911</td><td>951</td><td>90
</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Derek Henry</td><td>53</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>107</td><td>934</td><td>928</td><td>90
</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Tony Bender</td><td>51</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>107</td><td>957</td><td>905</td><td>90
</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>Todd Brigance</td><td>54</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>109</td><td>922</td><td>917</td><td>60
</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>Tim Egan</td><td>53</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>109</td><td>934</td><td>905</td><td>60
</td></tr><tr><td>19</td><td>Alan Wang</td><td>55</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>110</td><td>911</td><td>917</td><td>45
</td></tr><tr><td>19</td><td>Benjamin Raley</td><td>55</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>110</td><td>911</td><td>917</td><td>45
</td></tr><tr><td>21</td><td>Dan Page</td><td>57</td><td>55</td><td></td><td>112</td><td>887</td><td>917</td><td>30
</td></tr><tr><td>21</td><td>Dan McGough</td><td>53</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>112</td><td>934</td><td>871</td><td>30
</td></tr><tr><td>23</td><td>Jeremy Lockwood</td><td>57</td><td>59</td><td></td><td>116</td><td>887</td><td>871</td><td>15
</td></tr><tr><td>24</td><td>Stephen Roe</td><td>60</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>118</td><td>853</td><td>882</td><td>7.5
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Hole</td><td>Place</td><td>LAST NAME</td><td>ROUND</td><td></td><td></td><td>TOT</td><td>EST. RATING</td><td></td><td>Points
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Jerry Power</td><td>46</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>97</td><td>1022</td><td>961</td><td>135
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Barton Taylor</td><td>51</td><td>49</td><td></td><td>100</td><td>966</td><td>984</td><td>127.5
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Jack Tabor</td><td>52</td><td>50</td><td></td><td>102</td><td>954</td><td>973</td><td>120
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>David Vance</td><td>52</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>103</td><td>954</td><td>961</td><td>112.5
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Steven Parker</td><td>54</td><td>52</td><td></td><td>106</td><td>932</td><td>950</td><td>105
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Ed Morgan</td><td>54</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>108</td><td>932</td><td>927</td><td>97.5
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Cecil Larkin</td><td>51</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>108</td><td>966</td><td>893</td><td>97.5
</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Gary Watts</td><td>51</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>109</td><td>966</td><td>881</td><td>82.5
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Steve Dufrane</td><td>59</td><td>51</td><td></td><td>110</td><td>876</td><td>961</td><td>75
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Robbie Schroeder</td><td>54</td><td>56</td><td></td><td>110</td><td>932</td><td>904</td><td>75
</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>Richard Rasch</td><td>57</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>111</td><td>898</td><td>927</td><td>60
</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>Kent Bray</td><td>58</td><td>54</td><td></td><td>112</td><td>887</td><td>927</td><td>52.5
</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>Lawrence Nance</td><td>55</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>112</td><td>921</td><td>893</td><td>52.5
</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>John Hovey</td><td>57</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>114</td><td>898</td><td>893</td><td>37.5
</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>Richard Lewis</td><td>58</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>115</td><td>887</td><td>893</td><td>30
</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>Jake Walsdorf</td><td>59</td><td>57</td><td></td><td>116</td><td>876</td><td>893</td><td>22.5
</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>AJ Jensen</td><td>58</td><td>61</td><td></td><td>119</td><td>887</td><td>847</td><td>15
</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>Brent Marcom</td><td>58</td><td>62</td><td></td><td>120</td><td>887</td><td>836</td><td>7.5
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Hole</td><td>Place</td><td>LAST NAME</td><td>ROUND</td><td></td><td></td><td>TOT</td><td>EST. RATING</td><td></td><td>Points
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>De\\'atra Hunter</td><td>54</td><td>64</td><td></td><td>118</td><td>922</td><td>814</td><td>52.5
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Gail Repka</td><td>63</td><td>58</td><td></td><td>121</td><td>818</td><td>882</td><td>45
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Megan Burch</td><td>65</td><td>66</td><td></td><td>131</td><td>795</td><td>792</td><td>37.5
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Kat Bender</td><td>64</td><td>69</td><td></td><td>133</td><td>807</td><td>757</td><td>30
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Susan Macaluso</td><td>66</td><td>68</td><td></td><td>134</td><td>783</td><td>769</td><td>22.5
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Michelle Deering</td><td>67</td><td>71</td><td></td><td>138</td><td>772</td><td>735</td><td>15
</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Robin Lightfoot</td><td>70</td><td>74</td><td></td><td>144</td><td>737</td><td>701</td><td>7.5
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

<table border="1"><tr><td>NAME</td><td>PDGA #</td><td>ROUND</td><td></td><td>TOT</td><td>EST RATING</td><td></td><td>Points
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Joe Torres</td><td></td><td>43</td><td>47</td><td>90</td><td>1049</td><td>1008</td><td>180
</td></tr><tr><td>J.D. Ramirez</td><td></td><td>47</td><td>47</td><td>94</td><td>1003</td><td>1008</td><td>172.5
</td></tr><tr><td>Vinnie Miller</td><td></td><td>47</td><td>47</td><td>94</td><td>1003</td><td>1008</td><td>172.5
</td></tr><tr><td>Jayme Callis</td><td></td><td>52</td><td>44</td><td>96</td><td>945</td><td>1042</td><td>157.5
</td></tr><tr><td>James McCaine</td><td></td><td>52</td><td>45</td><td>97</td><td>945</td><td>1030</td><td>150
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Flesner</td><td></td><td>50</td><td>48</td><td>98</td><td>968</td><td>996</td><td>142.5
</td></tr><tr><td>Jay Reading</td><td></td><td>50</td><td>48</td><td>98</td><td>968</td><td>996</td><td>142.5
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Farnham</td><td></td><td>49</td><td>49</td><td>98</td><td>980</td><td>985</td><td>142.5
</td></tr><tr><td>Joe Hague</td><td></td><td>52</td><td>47</td><td>99</td><td>945</td><td>1008</td><td>120
</td></tr><tr><td>Paul Testa</td><td></td><td>51</td><td>48</td><td>99</td><td>957</td><td>996</td><td>120
</td></tr><tr><td>Matt Hall</td><td></td><td>50</td><td>49</td><td>99</td><td>968</td><td>985</td><td>120
</td></tr><tr><td>John Jennings</td><td></td><td>48</td><td>51</td><td>99</td><td>992</td><td>962</td><td>120
</td></tr><tr><td>Steve Hemmeline</td><td></td><td>48</td><td>51</td><td>99</td><td>992</td><td>962</td><td>120
</td></tr><tr><td>Dagon Owen</td><td></td><td>51</td><td>50</td><td>101</td><td>957</td><td>973</td><td>82.5
</td></tr><tr><td>Michael Ynfante</td><td></td><td>52</td><td>50</td><td>102</td><td>945</td><td>973</td><td>75
</td></tr><tr><td>Pete Lopez</td><td></td><td>51</td><td>51</td><td>102</td><td>957</td><td>962</td><td>75
</td></tr><tr><td>Steven Lawty</td><td></td><td>50</td><td>52</td><td>102</td><td>968</td><td>951</td><td>75
</td></tr><tr><td>Robbie Bratten</td><td></td><td>48</td><td>55</td><td>103</td><td>992</td><td>917</td><td>52.5
</td></tr><tr><td>Jay Walsdorf</td><td></td><td>60</td><td>46</td><td>106</td><td>853</td><td>1019</td><td>45
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Ware</td><td></td><td>52</td><td>54</td><td>106</td><td>945</td><td>928</td><td>45
</td></tr><tr><td>Clint Hilligist</td><td></td><td>51</td><td>55</td><td>106</td><td>957</td><td>917</td><td>45
</td></tr><tr><td>Kenny Truck</td><td></td><td>55</td><td>52</td><td>107</td><td>911</td><td>951</td><td>22.5
</td></tr><tr><td>Wesley Burch</td><td></td><td>55</td><td>60</td><td>115</td><td>911</td><td>860</td><td>15
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Higginbothani</td><td></td><td>60</td><td>62</td><td>122</td><td>853</td><td>837</td><td>7.5
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>NAME</td><td>PDGA #</td><td>ROUND</td><td></td><td>TOT</td><td>EST RATING</td><td></td><td>Points
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Jerry Perez</td><td></td><td>48</td><td>46</td><td>94</td><td>992</td><td>1019</td><td>75
</td></tr><tr><td>Randy Greywoolf</td><td></td><td>48</td><td>51</td><td>99</td><td>992</td><td>962</td><td>67.5
</td></tr><tr><td>Russell Banks</td><td></td><td>50</td><td>52</td><td>102</td><td>968</td><td>951</td><td>60
</td></tr><tr><td>Robert Fournet</td><td></td><td>50</td><td>54</td><td>104</td><td>968</td><td>928</td><td>52.5
</td></tr><tr><td>Alex Hughes</td><td></td><td>49</td><td>55</td><td>104</td><td>980</td><td>917</td><td>52.5
</td></tr><tr><td>Richard Ahlgrim</td><td></td><td>48</td><td>56</td><td>104</td><td>992</td><td>905</td><td>52.5
</td></tr><tr><td>John Taylor</td><td></td><td>52</td><td>53</td><td>105</td><td>945</td><td>939</td><td>30
</td></tr><tr><td>Louis Hall</td><td></td><td>54</td><td>52</td><td>106</td><td>922</td><td>951</td><td>22.5
</td></tr><tr><td>Rick Richardson</td><td></td><td>54</td><td>56</td><td>110</td><td>922</td><td>905</td><td>15
</td></tr><tr><td>Richard Gutzman</td><td></td><td>57</td><td>59</td><td>116</td><td>887</td><td>871</td><td>7.5
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>NAME</td><td>PDGA #</td><td>ROUND</td><td></td><td>TOT</td><td>EST RATING</td><td></td><td>Points
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>John Sullivan</td><td></td><td>56</td><td>56</td><td>112</td><td>899</td><td>905</td><td>22.5
</td></tr><tr><td>DwightPhillips</td><td></td><td>61</td><td>60</td><td>121</td><td>841</td><td>860</td><td>15
</td></tr><tr><td>Lyndon Lightfoot</td><td></td><td>62</td><td>60</td><td>122</td><td>830</td><td>860</td><td>7.5
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>NAME</td><td>PDGA #</td><td>ROUND</td><td></td><td>TOT</td><td>EST RATING</td><td></td><td>Points
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Des Reading</td><td></td><td>52</td><td>53</td><td>105</td><td>945</td><td>939</td><td>30
</td></tr><tr><td>Emily Brown</td><td></td><td>59</td><td>61</td><td>120</td><td>864</td><td>848</td><td>22.5
</td></tr><tr><td>Laura Coffey</td><td></td><td>64</td><td>59</td><td>123</td><td>807</td><td>871</td><td>15
</td></tr><tr><td>Emily Lawrence</td><td></td><td>60</td><td>65</td><td>125</td><td>853</td><td>803</td><td>7.5
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

<table border="1"><tr><td>Place</td><td>NAME</td><td>PDGA #</td><td>ROUND</td><td></td><td>TOT</td><td>EST. RATING</td><td></td><td>Points
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Erik Soete</td><td></td><td>51</td><td>47</td><td>98</td><td>966</td><td>1007</td><td>150
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Rob Dawson</td><td></td><td>53</td><td>49</td><td>102</td><td>943</td><td>984</td><td>144
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Shaine Power</td><td></td><td>52</td><td>52</td><td>104</td><td>954</td><td>950</td><td>138
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Josh Garner</td><td></td><td>55</td><td>51</td><td>106</td><td>921</td><td>961</td><td>132
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Bobby Siritanapivat</td><td></td><td>53</td><td>54</td><td>107</td><td>943</td><td>927</td><td>126
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Steve Dodge</td><td></td><td>53</td><td>54</td><td>107</td><td>943</td><td>927</td><td>126
</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Neal Martinez</td><td></td><td>56</td><td>52</td><td>108</td><td>909</td><td>950</td><td>114
</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Casey Guthrie</td><td></td><td>54</td><td>54</td><td>108</td><td>932</td><td>927</td><td>114
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>John Edwards</td><td></td><td>55</td><td>54</td><td>109</td><td>921</td><td>927</td><td>102
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Derrick Stout</td><td></td><td>54</td><td>55</td><td>109</td><td>932</td><td>916</td><td>102
</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>Brian Sudderth</td><td></td><td>56</td><td>54</td><td>110</td><td>909</td><td>927</td><td>90
</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>Brad Brooks</td><td></td><td>55</td><td>57</td><td>112</td><td>921</td><td>893</td><td>84
</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Cody Smith</td><td></td><td>58</td><td>55</td><td>113</td><td>887</td><td>916</td><td>78
</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Ron Thompson</td><td></td><td>57</td><td>56</td><td>113</td><td>898</td><td>904</td><td>78
</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>David Stallman</td><td></td><td>57</td><td>57</td><td>114</td><td>898</td><td>893</td><td>66
</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>Tracy Wilson</td><td></td><td>55</td><td>59</td><td>114</td><td>921</td><td>870</td><td>66
</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>Billy Williams</td><td></td><td>58</td><td>57</td><td>115</td><td>887</td><td>893</td><td>54
</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>Tim Dorsey</td><td></td><td>60</td><td>56</td><td>116</td><td>865</td><td>904</td><td>48
</td></tr><tr><td>19</td><td>Jerrod Seth Dougles</td><td></td><td>59</td><td>59</td><td>118</td><td>876</td><td>870</td><td>42
</td></tr><tr><td>20</td><td>Eric Chapman</td><td></td><td>60</td><td>61</td><td>121</td><td>865</td><td>847</td><td>36
</td></tr><tr><td>20</td><td>Adam Stallman</td><td></td><td>59</td><td>62</td><td>121</td><td>876</td><td>836</td><td>36
</td></tr><tr><td>22</td><td>Ken Roycroft III</td><td></td><td>63</td><td>60</td><td>123</td><td>831</td><td>858</td><td>24
</td></tr><tr><td>23</td><td>Doug Garner</td><td></td><td>63</td><td>61</td><td>124</td><td>831</td><td>847</td><td>18
</td></tr><tr><td>23</td><td>Wesley Morrison</td><td></td><td>61</td><td>63</td><td>124</td><td>853</td><td>824</td><td>18
</td></tr><tr><td>25</td><td>William English</td><td></td><td>67</td><td>61</td><td>128</td><td>786</td><td>847</td><td>6
</td></tr><tr><td>Place</td><td>NAME</td><td>PDGA #</td><td>ROUND</td><td></td><td>TOT</td><td>EST. RATING</td><td></td><td>Points
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Keith Guest</td><td></td><td>53</td><td>58</td><td>111</td><td>943</td><td>881</td><td>114
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Mike Gaby</td><td></td><td>59</td><td>54</td><td>113</td><td>876</td><td>927</td><td>108
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Shawn Rose</td><td></td><td>54</td><td>59</td><td>113</td><td>932</td><td>870</td><td>108
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Lance Steck</td><td></td><td>54</td><td>60</td><td>114</td><td>932</td><td>858</td><td>96
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Gregory Winn</td><td></td><td>56</td><td>60</td><td>116</td><td>909</td><td>858</td><td>90
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Brian Noriega</td><td></td><td>57</td><td>60</td><td>117</td><td>898</td><td>858</td><td>84
</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Brad Korando</td><td></td><td>59</td><td>59</td><td>118</td><td>876</td><td>870</td><td>78
</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Rick Bannister</td><td></td><td>58</td><td>62</td><td>120</td><td>887</td><td>836</td><td>72
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Zac McDonald</td><td></td><td>59</td><td>62</td><td>121</td><td>876</td><td>836</td><td>66
</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>Jerrold Killingsworth</td><td></td><td>62</td><td>60</td><td>122</td><td>842</td><td>858</td><td>60
</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>Kenney Kosina</td><td></td><td>62</td><td>61</td><td>123</td><td>842</td><td>847</td><td>54
</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>Justin Hurst</td><td></td><td>61</td><td>63</td><td>124</td><td>853</td><td>824</td><td>48
</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>Derrick Pauli</td><td></td><td>60</td><td>65</td><td>125</td><td>865</td><td>801</td><td>42
</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>David Lightfoot</td><td></td><td>65</td><td>61</td><td>126</td><td>808</td><td>847</td><td>36
</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>Brad Lederer</td><td></td><td>59</td><td>67</td><td>126</td><td>876</td><td>779</td><td>36
</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>Dustin Endsley</td><td></td><td>72</td><td>60</td><td>132</td><td>730</td><td>858</td><td>24
</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>Jarred Martinez</td><td></td><td>69</td><td>63</td><td>132</td><td>763</td><td>824</td><td>24
</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>Bobby Shepherd</td><td></td><td>68</td><td>67</td><td>135</td><td>775</td><td>779</td><td>12
</td></tr><tr><td>19</td><td>Joe Conner</td><td></td><td>77</td><td>76</td><td>153</td><td>674</td><td>676</td><td>6
</td></tr><tr><td>Place</td><td>NAME</td><td>PDGA #</td><td>ROUND</td><td></td><td>TOT</td><td>EST. RATING</td><td></td><td>Points
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td></td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Kim Kosina</td><td></td><td>64</td><td>72</td><td>136</td><td>820</td><td>722</td><td>54
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Patricia Stallman</td><td></td><td>68</td><td>72</td><td>140</td><td>775</td><td>722</td><td>48
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Bridget McDonald</td><td></td><td>72</td><td>69</td><td>141</td><td>730</td><td>756</td><td>42
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Nicole Cazares</td><td></td><td>76</td><td>67</td><td>143</td><td>685</td><td>779</td><td>36
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Sarah Buchanan</td><td></td><td>73</td><td>71</td><td>144</td><td>719</td><td>733</td><td>30
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Courtney Malek</td><td></td><td>70</td><td>78</td><td>148</td><td>752</td><td>653</td><td>24
</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Chreyl Veech</td><td></td><td>73</td><td>80</td><td>153</td><td>719</td><td>630</td><td>18
</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Kelly Barber</td><td></td><td>76</td><td>86</td><td>162</td><td>685</td><td>562</td><td>12
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Gail Gutzman</td><td></td><td>103</td><td>999</td><td>1102</td><td>382</td><td></td><td>6
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Awesome! Thanks Jerry :)

So nice to get some feedback from �Mr. added Cash� himself lmfao

I guess I need to post the full PDGA report in order to post some scores for people to see Saturday night. Team Disaster is adding a ton to this event so I hope people who made it out are having a great time�



<table border="1"><tr><td> Pecan Park Added</td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Shirts for early sign ups to pros and ams</td><td></td><td></td><td>$1,485.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Added to the AM players pack</td><td></td><td></td><td>$770.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Added Cash to MPO and FPO</td><td></td><td></td><td>$141.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Added Cash to skins for pros (not in totals above)</td><td></td><td></td><td>$150.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Added Merchandise to ams in the skins match</td><td></td><td></td><td>$150.00
</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Total cash added</td><td></td><td></td><td>$291.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Total added merch</td><td></td><td></td><td>$2,405.00
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

So nice to get some feedback from �Mr. added Cash� himself lmfao

I guess I need to post the full PDGA report in order to post some scores for people to see Saturday night. Team Disaster is adding a ton to this event so I hope people who made it out are having a great time�




Relax there Gimp. As I said I was simply interested and was not the only one.

I have played 2 Pecan Park Opens and loved it there, and have won my fair share of money and skins.

Thanks for the stats. That is great because you can give the numbers, unlike some others that want to hide them. Good job.

By the way that tournament in Ingleside had nothing to do with me, I was simply a player, so bite me. :D

As I said I was to be there but my LAF commitments got in the way this time. Have fun.

Chris :cool:

Scores are up - skins money is not in these...

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5673&amp;year=2006&amp;incl udeRatings=1#Open

GOOD TIMES!
Had a great time....thanks to momma Norma! She is awesome.
Thanks Rob for running the skins...you did good boy!
I hope the T.D. staff is not playing the upcoming N.T.
I want to thank Jerry Power.....That feller was having a good time.
And if you guys need some help....don't be shy ASK FOR IT.
Texas's N.T. better run smother than NACH did.
Scott you took on some tuff questions and you handle yourself very well. John thanks for your drive to make something happen in Texas. Now lets do it right!

How did the skins turn out?

Gimp, just a suggestion but MARK the Drop Zone with some paint. So the flags dont get picked up and walked away with,

let me try to recall
JD and lottery winner EL CHILI got 1 skin
Jamie and Ian got 1 skin
Joe T and not sure of his name got 1 skin
And team skin head Jerry p and I got 3 skins

He did fail to mention that the team that got 3 skins had a combined age of over 90. (Thanks Vinnie for the carry)


let me try to recall
JD and lottery winner EL CHILI got 1 skin
Jamie and Ian got 1 skin
Joe T and not sure of his name got 1 skin
And team skin head Jerry p and I got 3 skins

You guys be kind...Gimp had 3 of his regular v-teers back out at the last minute at an event that far exceeded expected turnout.

I am being kind...this guys worked hard with what they had!
I know what it is to be a T.D.,and I am the first to tell someone don't come here complaining unless you have a solution.

I wasn't talking about anyone in particular not being kind. I just know how sometimes these threads can take a terrible turn and I feel guilty as one of the v-teers that backed out on him :(

�Thanks Rob for running the skins...you did good boy!�

Yes, way to go on running the skins well Rob � this part of the event went MUCH smoother than last year. Can someone please list what teams took the skins holes. Rob? Vinnie?

�I hope the T.D. staff is not playing the upcoming N.T. Texas's N.T. better run smother than NACH did.�

There will be PLENTY of non-playing staff at the National Tour, which has absolutely nothing to do with the Lone-Star series except that the added payout from LSS will be paid at States. The National Tour will have tons of added cash and will far exceed NT standards. There will also be one of the best players packs I have seen. I�m not sure what the parking lot chat circles will find to complain about this time.

By the way, feel FREE to ASK a head of time or at the event if you want to know about added cash etc. Last year we added $150 and it was all in the skins. We had a nice pro field so I though it would be nice to bump that up over $250 and make it a b-tier. Nowhere was it advertised that this event would exceed B-tier standards on the Pro side. I�m still not sure how $291 added to pro including the skins, plus shirts for the pros who sign up early is something to complain about.

There were more mistakes made at this event and bad luck scenarios than any other event I have run. I believe starting at Pioneer because of the recent rule change on the pavilions by the city (you could never reserve them before, they were first come first serve) was a set back. I was also very disappointed in myself for not getting the �written� OB�s on the map correctly and for some misinformation on the starting courses for Sunday morning. One change for sure next year will be longer lunch breaks. The scores can not get into the system any faster than I can get them in there and I absolutely HATE that people had to wait to get their hole assignments longer than advertised.

�John thanks for your drive to make something happen in Texas. Now lets do it right!�

Honestly, Vinnie, we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Even with the mistakes, I think this was a fun, well run event. If I had not been playing (I do scorekeeping for those that do not know), NOTHING would have run any differently. There is no more time between rounds if you play or not play, and it was not like I was sitting around relaxing during lunch lmao. A HUGE pick your plastic payout in AM, a large chunk of change in pro, a significant raffle and a skins match ran very smoothly after the 4th round. The courses were mowed and we were not forced to tromp through the mud on the lower Pioneer holes (thanks again for the baskets Tyler boys!), maps were in hand for everyone to find their way. We had great weather and a hospitable police force lmao�

All the LSS sponsorship money and raffle money goes directly back to the players. Look above to see the retail cost of the merchandise given away. The only events where there is advertised added pro cash that Team Disaster runs are Pecan Park (taken over when it was dropped by APO) and States where a large crew of volunteers gives their heart and soul EVERY year to make a great event happen with everything going back to the players.

(This part is NOT directed directly at Vinnie)

I just don�t get where people get lost on how Team Disaster events are run. Most of the players have played a Team Disaster event or two over the years. Things do not change from event to event. Some things get added here and there as we grown. It was unfortunate that most of our other volunteers could not make this one, but all you can do is do the best you can do. For the bumper chat circles, here is some food for thought�

- If you don�t like the way these events are run, and you are not the type to want to help, shop around and find some events you do like and patronize those. Anonymously #$*&$! in the parking lot will not change the way TD�s run their events.

- If you are the type to want to volunteer to make events stronger, volunteer to help do a significant task at the event, volunteer to raise money for whatever division you would like to have added cash or prizes added to (I will honor your request to put it where you want it), or even start and run your own event. It can be very rewarding running your own event when things go well.

- Sack up and ask what is going on. Do it before the event for any little thing, ask DURING the event for MAJOR things, send an email to me after the event (uncdrummer@hotmail.com) volunteering to help, offering suggestions etc. Call me if you don�t know how to type (832) 279-8084. In all honesty getting the second hand information through others is very hurtful and cowardly.

I hope most people had a great time at the event. I apologize for the mistakes I made, trust me it was NOT fun being the TD this time�

Gimp

GOOD TIMES!
I hope the T.D. staff is not playing the upcoming N.T.

Texas's N.T. better run smother than NACH did.
Scott you took on some tuff questions and you handle yourself very well. John thanks for your drive to make something happen in Texas. Now lets do it right!



Word! :mad:

GOOD TIMES!
I hope the T.D. staff is not playing the upcoming N.T.

Texas's N.T. better run smother than NACH did.
Scott you took on some tuff questions and you handle yourself very well. John thanks for your drive to make something happen in Texas. Now lets do it right!



Word! :mad:



NICE Jake - You were such a joy to deal with this weekend - a real pleasure taking your complaints. Your hint that I was not interested in hearing you cry should have been when I walked off, but no you had to complain more before the next round. Thanks buddy...

You were the 2nd card off the course partially because we spread people around to keep things moving. I suppose slower divisions should be not allowed to play. Or maybe I should have made your division full of cards of five, we would still be playing�

Here is a little food for thought for you since you decided to pile on - try playing yourself off the bob card if you want to have leader card treatment�

25 Women including 5 Juniors.

Way to go ladies.

Ace pot was hit by two folks. Eric S. in round one and Barton T. in round 4. They both got $800 each :o Nice shots :)

nicely said gimp!
I like how you made sure my feeling were hurt and so you know I knew it wasn't direct at me..
If I got a problem I'll bring it to you. And that is why I hope you are not playing....I look for you a few times.
You all did good!
The words TEXAS STATE means great not anything less! And I got faith in you...you can do it....so do it!

GOOD TIMES!
I hope the T.D. staff is not playing the upcoming N.T.

Texas's N.T. better run smother than NACH did.
Scott you took on some tuff questions and you handle yourself very well. John thanks for your drive to make something happen in Texas. Now lets do it right!



Word! :mad:



NICE Jake - You were such a joy to deal with this weekend - a real pleasure taking your complaints. Your hint that I was not interested in hearing you cry should have been when I walked off, but no you had to complain more before the next round. Thanks buddy...

You were the 2nd card off the course partially because we spread people around to keep things moving. I suppose slower divisions should be not allowed to play. Or maybe I should have made your division full of cards of five, we would still be playing�

Here is a little food for thought for you since you decided to pile on - try playing yourself off the bob card if you want to have leader card treatment�



No need for me to pile on Gimp, appears to be more players then me who want to say something.

A joy to work with A? Next time I will not ask how I can help laying out extra holes for you before the event.

My complaint seemed to be a simple request but you used that simple request as a source to vent. But as I thought about it more I still didn't understand why you would take the last card of 3 ADVANCE masters players and place their card behind the 4 player rec. women card. Did you think they would hold up players behind them. 3 players? LOL

But I get it now. Beware Players. The order of which you bring your card in is how the cards will be let out; so don't dilly dog around handing that card in.

I'm posting this situation because in all the years I've played masters, I've never heard nor experienced being disconnected from your divisional group for the sake of flow. Well, Mr.TD, I'm here to tell you, go back to UNC and study Hydraulics. Cause that #$*&$! couldn't flow down hill.

Gimp, if you are so sure that my situation is pure whinning; post the tee assignments up for Sunday's AM pool and show the world what sort of card alignment/shuffling you do for the sake of flow. Was the volunteer would organizes card placement one that bailed?

Jake take it off line!
you may have a valid issue.
but this is not the place for it

The placement of cards seems to be something that challenges Gimp at many events. I've been in your shoes too many times Jake, so I feel your pain.

However, I do think that overall, things went well. Just think, it could have been much, much worse. Didn't we all leave at a reasonable hour?

And more and more I've come to realize we've got some <font color="red"> "cronic complainers" </font> in our ranks who are just not happy unless they are stirring the pot.

As for the NT, we've got TONS of extra volunteers lined up to make it one of this year's best events! So, don't use PPO as an excuse to hide behind for not supporting the NT. (apples and oranges) Just come see, I don't think anyone will be disappointed in how this event will be conducted.

Gimp, just for the record, the first time I read the payout I was wondering why they seemed so low. I though maybe there was a mistake too.

But then I guess that is what is going to happen with low entry fees.

You know I really wanted to be there this weekend, but on a good note, I caught the biggest bass I have ever caught. I caught 4 bass to be exact. I learned how to fish with plastic worms this weekend. Even my son Dallas caught 2 bass, both were 16". then to top it off, Sunday we played Athens and Crawford (well the holes we could find at Crawford)

I had a great time this weekend John. It was the best tournament I have ever played, scorewise, until the end. I would love to come back again! Just take this as a learning lesson, you can only trust yourself to let everyone know the special conditions. Thank you for your time put into this tournament! I would not have wanted to be in your shoes this weekend, but you and Scott did the best you could with what you had to work with. I'll be back "Boo"!

Moon

good shooting Micah!!

I have a suggestion for the skins match. How about rotating who tees off first. For example, let the pros tee off on hole 1 and then let the ams and Jerry tee off on hole 2, and then flip-flop back and forth. What this will do is to eliminate the inequity of having the pro hit a three footer to push, while the pro that would have hit the two footer doesn't have to finish, and can then tee off the next hole.

Just a suggestion. I am one whiny spectator. ;)

GOOD TIMES!
I hope the T.D. staff is not playing the upcoming N.T.

Texas's N.T. better run smother than NACH did.
Scott you took on some tuff questions and you handle yourself very well. John thanks for your drive to make something happen in Texas. Now lets do it right!



Word! :mad:



NICE Jake - You were such a joy to deal with this weekend - a real pleasure taking your complaints. Your hint that I was not interested in hearing you cry should have been when I walked off, but no you had to complain more before the next round. Thanks buddy...

You were the 2nd card off the course partially because we spread people around to keep things moving. I suppose slower divisions should be not allowed to play. Or maybe I should have made your division full of cards of five, we would still be playing�

Here is a little food for thought for you since you decided to pile on - try playing yourself off the bob card if you want to have leader card treatment�



No need for me to pile on Gimp, appears to be more players then me who want to say something.

A joy to work with A? Next time I will not ask how I can help laying out extra holes for you before the event.

My complaint seemed to be a simple request but you used that simple request as a source to vent. But as I thought about it more I still didn't understand why you would take the last card of 3 ADVANCE masters players and place their card behind the 4 player rec. women card. Did you think they would hold up players behind them. 3 players? LOL

But I get it now. Beware Players. The order of which you bring your card in is how the cards will be let out; so don't dilly dog around handing that card in.

I'm posting this situation because in all the years I've played masters, I've never heard nor experienced being disconnected from your divisional group for the sake of flow. Well, Mr.TD, I'm here to tell you, go back to UNC and study Hydraulics. Cause that #$*&$! couldn't flow down hill.



Tee assignments changed EVERY round because of players dropping and not letting me know. There was no reason to have an empty hole when we had 149 players on two courses. Team D events have always spread divisional fields all the way back to the very beginning (30+ sanctioned events I believe). I do the best I can to spread it so we don�t have backups or leave at an unreasonable time. I believe ALL eight assigned courses flowed and finished within a reasonable time. No matter HOW you slice the field, someone is going to have to play behind the slower divisions.

I did not vent on you the first couple of times you talked to me right after the round. Yes, I did indeed vent when you came up to me to complain AGAIN right before two mins of the next round. I thought it was more important to get the round going than to take more time to rearrange the holes because of a player who wanted a more favorable hole assignment from a low card. The sheets had literally just printed within the past few mins. I�m sorry that it was your card this time.

BTW I did thank you for your help in the players meeting and it was greatly appreciated. I also apologized after the fact to you and I thought the issue was dead � Try showing some class next time by not piling on and venting YOUR frustrations for not living up to your own playing expectations. Are you saying the Rec ladies should not have played � or they can play just as long as it does not get in your cards way during a competitive round? They obviously did not play too slow because your card finished very fast. I can�t create another player to make your card a foursome either. Should have I made the leader card a three and made the bob card a four?

BTW � you know good and well that I can not recreate hole assignments for all the rounds as they change every time�.

Some complaints are legit and I apologize � things did NOT go perfectly.

nicely said gimp!
I like how you made sure my feeling were hurt and so you know I knew it wasn't direct at me..
If I got a problem I'll bring it to you. And that is why I hope you are not playing....I look for you a few times.
You all did good!
The words TEXAS STATE means great not anything less! And I got faith in you...you can do it....so do it!



I hope you do understand that was not directed at you or intended to be a smack on you Vinnie, I think that was just a typo in your post.

I could not be at both courses at the same time, playing or not playing. Scott did the best he could as he was in charge of the other course.

Gimp, just for the record, the first time I read the payout I was wondering why they seemed so low. I though maybe there was a mistake too.



I paid deeper in this event because of the new PDGA guidelines. I am not and likely never will play pro, but I personally think we are paying too many places now. I recommend that Pros write the PDGA if they do not like the new deeper flatter payouts. In Pro 100% of entry fees minus the B-tier $3 and the LSS series $3 +the added cash was the payout.

I have a suggestion for the skins match. How about rotating who tees off first. For example, let the pros tee off on hole 1 and then let the ams and Jerry tee off on hole 2, and then flip-flop back and forth. What this will do is to eliminate the inequity of having the pro hit a three footer to push, while the pro that would have hit the two footer doesn't have to finish, and can then tee off the next hole.

Just a suggestion. I am one whiny spectator. ;)



I never get to watch the skins because I am busy making the tournament happen, but the point of the format which is a little odd and very unique in my opinion is to add pressure. The AM teeing off against three pros for instance and making the amazing shot. It all just depends on how you look at it. I would love to hear other thoughts on the format because we can certainly change it.

Jake take it off line!
you may have a valid issue.
but this is not the place for it



Vinnie - I do have a valid issue and I tried to fix it or at least understand it Saturday morning and Saturday afternoon. And was hammered by the TD, labeled a whinner, and generally insulted.

This is not the place? (Well dealing with the TD face to face was not either)

I'm just wondering why a group would be disconnected from their division.

If this is common practice throughout the PDGA community of TD's then let's see it and I will be able to move on and this thread can be graced with the props it deserves.

Istart:
1. The courses looked great.
2. The weather was great.
3. The people that attend this event are great.
4. The town is a great place to host a 2 day tournament

Plenty others, my head is still foggy from the issue I'm whinning about and the lame attemp of explaining I got.

Jake I think if you have an issue this is the place to bring them up. if not than how will we learn to improve. thanks for flagging or setting up temps.

Congrats to the Winners. Good Victory JD.

yes a typo "were" supposed to be "wern't"

I think the Skins format, the way it is, is the most exciting. If it wasnt for that format I may not have gotten to see the 60+yr. old skins winner bang the putt for like 4 skins when he played with Olse in the GCCS Finale. Also we wouldn't have gotten to see Keith bang the miracle shot that won him a Jim the skins. I wasn't at PPO last year but I believe the most talked about thing was Robbie out blasting the pros on the Final hole by a 100+ feet.

The format is a keeper in my opinion.

you just like disagreeing!!!
If you would put as much effort into your game as you do posting. there is no telling how good you "WOOD" be :D

Robbie played with Olse last year. He's not quite 60, but you did mention 4 skin and Olse in the same sentence, so I will give you props for that one. :D

What do you not understand about my explanation? There is no way I would have hammered you online if you had not piled on online. And lets be fair here Jake � I was VERY nice and gave some VERY real hints that I did not think your complaint was legit when you complained before anyone else was off the course after round three. When you put your foot in your mouth AGAIN before round 4 right before two mins just to I guess make yourself feel better and go off on a TD running a 149 person division, yes I called you on it because it was BS. Nothing could change when we are calling two mins.

There was an empty hole and I filled it for flow purposes with the division where the most players were crammed in the least amount of holes.

Now back to MY question Jake. Rec ladies are fine as long as they are not in front of you right. So if you were on the leader card and the bottom rec ladies card was in front of you, you would have no problem with that right? I still believe this is about JAKE and not about hole assignments�

Player�s watch out for this MEAN TD who will go off on you at the event LMAO

As I said..."the 60+ yr.Old ...at the GCCS Finale". Was great to watch and I am sure it was something he will never forget as long as he lives.

I can believe me eyes! I never seen SO many open players CRY and WHINE all weekend :mad:Please don't show up next year, you all know who you are :D:DGimp the way skins was played is the correct way any other way is backward arse. See you all at Texas States :cool:

Gimp, I had a great time and can't wait for next year. I'm gonna try for 6 time Master Champ. You all did a great job. :cool:

What do you not understand about my explanation? There is no way I would have hammered you online if you had not piled on online. And lets be fair here Jake � I was VERY nice and gave some VERY real hints that I did not think your complaint was legit when you complained before anyone else was off the course after round three. When you put your foot in your mouth AGAIN before round 4 right before two mins just to I guess make yourself feel better and go off on a TD running a 149 person division, yes I called you on it because it was BS. Nothing could change when we are calling two mins.

There was an empty hole and I filled it for flow purposes with the division where the most players were crammed in the least amount of holes.

Now back to MY question Jake. Rec ladies are fine as long as they are not in front of you right. So if you were on the leader card and the bottom rec ladies card was in front of you, you would have no problem with that right? I still believe this is about JAKE and not about hole assignments�

Player�s watch out for this MEAN TD who will go off on you at the event LMAO



This issue is not about rec. women playing the sport. This issue IS about NOT following a known and practiced layout of card sequencing(sp). Your trying to mask my issue by playing the women card. As far as who plays behind them in the layout seqence(sp); that statement tells me right there of the problem. You don't know!!!

When have you ever heard me complain about anything or be MEAN??? As my friends who know me can contest, I'm a mellow guy who has love for everyone. Why I'm so #$*&$!? I brought the issue up Sunday morning and voiced my dismay cause I thought it was an oversite. Who would disconnect divisions like that? I figured you would fix it by the afternoon round. Wrong I was. See, I go to these $300 mini vacations to see family, friends and to compete with the competion of my division. When the card I'm on gets pulled from the rest of the com (18 players) card seqence (sp) I was simply playing (in view) with only 2 others.

I can understand if people don't show, and holes have to be filled.

I can understand when odd numbers of players in a division cause cards with players in different divisions.

But what I don't understand is pulling the last card of a division out of sequecial (sp) layout and putting them on hole 15 not hole 5 where they should have been because they handed thier card in late Saturday. Or better yet, because of flow. I guess I don't understand your reasoning.

Sigh. Wow.

Given what he had to work with, John did a good job. Scott did a good job. Laura has the patience of a saint.

One complaint from me: the phrase "and beyond" is small and needs to be used more often. John is not the only TD who's missed that boat in printed rules. :)

handed a card in late??? did they get stroked!!!

I'm surpise you cant remember his name it was on the side of his walker :o:D

Scott, you are right about most of your remembrances of the skins at the finals last year. It was a 60+ year old man (now 62) that was playing with poor Mike Olse. The only difference was,it was Mike's drive and my upshot for Mike to putt it in for the four skins that day. You were also right about this old man never forgetting the experience and how he got in that situation. He will also never forget the positive attitude of Mike and his classiness and especially his amazement when he found out he was paired with 61 year old recreational player. It was great. I find it amazing someone would even still remember this moment except for me.

It was Jim Yount...i had a brainfart and couldnt remember his last name when I posted that earlier :)

Jim,

I was there and remember it, you were easily the crowd favorite!! I also remember Keith hitting that big putt on the next hole to get us a little extra loot as well.

Jim,

I was there and remember it, you were easily the crowd favorite!! I also remember Keith hitting that big putt on the next hole to get us a little extra loot as well.

DOh!! Sorry for the mess up. Anyway, it was great to see you get a key shot in there on that hole to give Olse the drop in ;) And I may screw up the story in your favor on occassion but I wont ever forget that skins match thanks in big part to you :)

I don't know what the hand a card in late comment is about. No cards were turned in late during the entire tournament. I don�t believe the PDGA mandates where cards play on the course. If they do that is a rule that I have missed and I need to change the way I do things. When the course is full you are not always going to be behind a fast card. These rounds finished up very fast with only one minor backup at hole 3 on Pioneer which is unavoidable.

I am sorry that I changed your hole Jake and that you had such a bad time. If I had it to do over again I would still plug a card in on an empty hole since I had extra time Saturday night. There was no time to change it around between rounds even if I wanted to, and your complaints right before the two min. warning are not justifiable no matter how you spin it. I apologized to you the day it happened that I got irritated at you about the last complaint. I had taken your complaint while collecting the cards and made the decision not to slow the tournament down to change it around.

Every decision at a tournament is made with the INTENTION to keep competition fair and all the players happy. Most of these decisions will make at least one person mad. The decision to move the last mm1 card made you mad, but I am sure the REST of that pool was pleased at finishing a little bit early.

I sure wish I was getting railed for one of the things I feel I actually messed up instead of an issue like this�

Disc golf is supposed to be fun and many times people take it WAY to seriously. This issue should NOT have affected you as much as it did. Once again, please accept my apologies.

handed a card in late??? did they get stroked!!!



Not late enough to get stroked.

I remember it as well - the only skins match at one of the LSS events that I have followed. I have not heard anything about yesterdays match except that Eric hit a long putt for a skin...

It is great to know others got almost as much enjoyment out of the experience as I did. That is what it is all about, having a good time and enjoying the moment, whether it is your moment or someone elses.

You think that is why your card was moved? Filling each hole with players is a pretty standard TD move when you have 149 on two courses...

I hear that I would like to see how some other TD's would handle 149 discgolfers. yes it can get crazy.(I would like to sell my t-shirt to the ams and add the money to the pro payout.) I have a bunch of tournament t-shirts already. ;) See all of you 148 discgolfers next year. :)

DEAR GOD, is everyone going to remember I missed a little 10 foot dinker?? :confused:

Will anyone remember that I was the only one not to throw a drive into the creak bed on the hole Vinnie nearly skips a disc in on the up shot?

No, it will be the dinker, sigh,,....


I think the Skins format, the way it is, is the most exciting. If it wasnt for that format I may not have gotten to see the 60+yr. old skins winner bang the putt for like 4 skins when he played with Olse in the GCCS Finale. Also we wouldn't have gotten to see Keith bang the miracle shot that won him a Jim the skins. I wasn't at PPO last year but I believe the most talked about thing was Robbie out blasting the pros on the Final hole by a 100+ feet.

The format is a keeper in my opinion.

Gimp, thanks to you and your helpers who run these tournaments. Jarred and I always have a blast. Jarred put up some great rounds there, didn't he! :DVery proud of him! I think there was some confusion on Jarred's card that last round but I think they got it worked out. I just go to whatever hole I'm assigned and play golf. I could care less about anything else! Well, except for my cruddy putting!

That was really, for real, my last Intermediate tournament. So you baggers with higher rated rounds than 906, MOVE UP!!!

Watch out Advanced cause there's young blood (or in my case not so young blood) coming for ya. :)

Neal

i agree with Jerry. Gimp works hard to put on good tourneys and does his best to take care of all the players. I have played on a card with him before behind some slow players. It didn't bother me this much. I don't see how it could bother you this much if you were on the DFL card anyway. Come to think of it I don't remember playing any PDGA tourneys without having to wait on the card in front of me.

149 players, sweet! Give it a rest guys, TD'ing is a beotch and no TD sets out to screw their players, ka ka just happens. Wow, 149, nice!! Make that 150 for next year, I need to stop el chile's streak :D