middle of next week at the earliest.

Cool.

I think ill go up atleast 10 or more points with the rounds ill have dropped and the rounds ill have added.......Im thinking right around 970 is where I will be after this update but who knows!!! I guess we will just have to wait and see :D:D:D

Chuck, are players subject to play in their respective divisions the following weekend after a ratings update? In other words is their a grace period after ratings updates?

No grace period. That's why we update between Sunday-Tuesday. The TD gets an email from the PDGA with current members and their ratings on Thursday right before the event so they have the latest info.

When did that change?

and How can a tourney with assigned pools that are filling abide by a players new rating that comes out 4 days before the event?

It's been that way for at least five years now. And you wonder why we don't update ratings more often. This is a primary reason.

Correction. Apparently they added a grace period of two weeks for players who are preregistered for an event. It's on page 7 of the 2006 Tour Standards. So, as long as you are preregistered, you lock in your division for the two weekends following the update which would be April 22nd and April 29th regardless of the ratings update posted by the 18th.

Five years? You mean like ever since the ratings were put fully into place?

I don't buy that I am making this up out of thin air, sorry, i am young and keep my braincells in tact. If i could find the posts where you yourself have talked about the grace period I would but I am not going to search through every post you have made for years to find it.

Added in 06...lol It may have been added to the official doc. in 06 but that has been the case since as long as i can remember and I base this mostly on what YOU have said.

You okay Chuck?? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

If there were a grace period for all that time, there wouldn't be a strong reason for us to bust it and only post ratings updates between Sunday-Tuesday, and yet we do. If anything, the grace period at least helps TDs get preregistrations so that's fine.

Correction. Apparently they added a grace period of two weeks for players who are preregistered for an event. It's on page 7 of the 2006 Tour Standards. So, as long as you are preregistered, you lock in your division for the two weekends following the update which would be April 22nd and April 29th regardless of the ratings update posted by the 18th.


Does this work for AMs $$ too?
Scenario:
I play Pro in an event on, say, the first weekend of May. I take cash but have already preregistered in the AM division for a tournament two weeks later. Am I still allowed to play AM in the next event, or do I have to play Pro?

The grace period is for ratings changes not anything else. Of course, if your rating is 957 when you play pro and cash and then your rating drops to 954, you could play Am after the ratings update. Likewise, let's say you were 953 when you played Pro and cashed and then your rating jumped to 958. If you were preregistered in Am for an event within two weeks of the ratings update, you could still play Am under the grace period rule.

The grace period is for ratings changes not anything else. Of course, if your rating is 957 when you play pro and cash and then your rating drops to 954, you could play Am after the ratings update. Likewise, let's say you were 953 when you played Pro and cashed and then your rating jumped to 958. If you were preregistered in Am for an event within two weeks of the ratings update, you could still play Am under the grace period rule.


Gotcha, thanks.

The grace period is for ratings changes not anything else. Of course, if your rating is 957 when you play pro and cash and then your rating drops to 954, you could play Am after the ratings update. Likewise, let's say you were 953 when you played Pro and cashed and then your rating jumped to 958. If you were preregistered in Am for an event within two weeks of the ratings update, you could still play Am under the grace period rule.


Gotcha, thanks.



Bagger :o
:D

The grace period is for ratings changes not anything else. Of course, if your rating is 957 when you play pro and cash and then your rating drops to 954, you could play Am after the ratings update. Likewise, let's say you were 953 when you played Pro and cashed and then your rating jumped to 958. If you were preregistered in Am for an event within two weeks of the ratings update, you could still play Am under the grace period rule.


Gotcha, thanks.



Bagger :o
:D


You want to sponsor me to play Open? I'll cover the Am amount and you can pay the rest. How's that sound?

How exactly does the rating system work? Who determines this & how is it determined how many points someone receives or gets taken away for a tournament?

http://pdga.com/documents/04RatingsGuide.pdf

How about that estimate RYAN? :D

How about that estimate RYAN? :D



So here are the my predictions as they stand. These might be slightly different than my last ones because I have had more time to think about it. And I'm gonna go with a +/- 3 point scale to allow a little shifting area.

KrisAllen:...937-940
GwillimNation:...969-972
DirtyVincent:...984-987
Millz?:...963-966
Ruzicka...966-969
MattHall...998-1001

These are just predictions according to how I have followed your guys' progress. I don't have access to anymore data than you guys do so don't ask me how I came up with these, they are strictly semi-educated guesses.

The grace period is for ratings changes not anything else. Of course, if your rating is 957 when you play pro and cash and then your rating drops to 954, you could play Am after the ratings update. Likewise, let's say you were 953 when you played Pro and cashed and then your rating jumped to 958. If you were preregistered in Am for an event within two weeks of the ratings update, you could still play Am under the grace period rule.


Gotcha, thanks.



Bagger :o
:D


You want to sponsor me to play Open? I'll cover the Am amount and you can pay the rest. How's that sound?




Sure....Come on up to the KOA....That will cost you $20 for an Open spot..... :D

Info at <font color="blue"> NorCal Series Web Site (http://www.norcalseries.com) </font>

;) /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D

How about that estimate RYAN? :D



So here are the my predictions as they stand. These might be slightly different than my last ones because I have had more time to think about it. And I'm gonna go with a +/- 3 point scale to allow a little shifting area.

KrisAllen:...937-940
GwillimNation:...969-972
DirtyVincent:...984-987
Millz?:...963-966
Ruzicka...966-969
MattHall...998-1001

These are just predictions according to how I have followed your guys' progress. I don't have access to anymore data than you guys do so don't ask me how I came up with these, they are strictly semi-educated guesses.



<font color="red">Ruzicka...966-969 </font>

Nah, I think Im going higher than that...unless I just dont understand the ratings calcs :p

We will see.......... :cool:

<font color="red">Ruzicka...966-969 </font>
Nah, I think Im going higher than that...unless I just dont understand the ratings calcs :p

We will see.......... :cool:


Maybe, but I bet whatever it is I'm still higher than you :eek:
lol

How about that estimate RYAN? :D



So here are the my predictions as they stand. These might be slightly different than my last ones because I have had more time to think about it. And I'm gonna go with a +/- 3 point scale to allow a little shifting area.

KrisAllen:...937-940
GwillimNation:...969-972
DirtyVincent:...984-987
Millz?:...963-966
Ruzicka...966-969
MattHall...998-1001

These are just predictions according to how I have followed your guys' progress. I don't have access to anymore data than you guys do so don't ask me how I came up with these, they are strictly semi-educated guesses.



<font color="brown"> KrisAllen:...937-940 </font>

Yeah if we were able to take out blow-up rounds this spring, I would probably be around 948-953 for this update....but oh well. :p

<font color="brown"> KrisAllen:...937-940 </font>

Yeah if we were able to take out blow-up rounds this spring, I would probably be around 948-953 for this update....but oh well. :p

Well stop blowing up then!

<font color="brown"> KrisAllen:...937-940 </font>

Yeah if we were able to take out blow-up rounds this spring, I would probably be around 948-953 for this update....but oh well. :p

Well stop blowing up then!



Well, I never intend to blow up.

I tried a hacks version of figuring my rating based on the unofficial results of the 3 tourneys this year that are going into the ratings.

With no bump factor what so ever, I will likely drop this turn around, depending on my proper understanding of the double weighting rule. I calculated 931-934.

Only one thing to do now....practice :D

How about that estimate RYAN? :D



So here are the my predictions as they stand. These might be slightly different than my last ones because I have had more time to think about it. And I'm gonna go with a +/- 3 point scale to allow a little shifting area.

KrisAllen:...937-940
GwillimNation:...969-972
DirtyVincent:...984-987
Millz?:...963-966
Ruzicka...966-969
MattHall...998-1001

These are just predictions according to how I have followed your guys' progress. I don't have access to anymore data than you guys do so don't ask me how I came up with these, they are strictly semi-educated guesses.



If I go up that high I will send you a disc. I am thinking around 995. :D/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

next week at the earliest.



Hey Chuck, have the numbers been posted on the dev server? If so, did I hit the 980's?

No pass yet. Waiting for Roger. Not expecting anything until Thursday at least. Looks like official update will be posted Monday morning.

And you said that Bowling Green would be on the next update right? is there anywhere we could look at an estimate of what ours might be or just have to wait it out type of thing?

Justin, it has already been posted like ten times. Get you head out of your.......

I don't pay attention to the ratings that much but since I have 1 tournament going into them thats when I get wondering. If I had more pdga tournaments close then I would pay more attention to this thread

My question with Bowling Green is if they will be able to get the pools right. What a huge daunting task.

If they do not get the pools right you can basically throw away all the round ratings.

CHUCK, How is the same scores from last and this year at BG (188 before finals be 30 points different this year

1st Barry Schultz 2006 Bowling Green total before finals 188 = 1055 golf
1st Justin Bunnell 2005 Bowling Green total before finals 183 = 1037
2nd Puli Mon 2005 Bowling Green total before finals 188 = 1025 golf

05' Bunnell 183 = 1037
06' Barry 188 = 1055
05' Puli Mon 188 = 1025
06' Phil Arthur 197 =1022

The ratings are ridiculously hig this year. 9 strokes worse in score is the same ratings from last year.

WOW! That next ratings report I should expect to see Barry around 1070?????.... :confused:

Look at the rest of the NTs and A-tiers around the nation. I can't wait for Tx states. Heck I may hit the rest of the Nts just to boost my rating.

I don't have access to change the online unofficial calcs. I've mentioned before that it needs to be fixed. Official ratings will be lower than what you see. Wasn't the weather better at BG this year than last for the Pros also?

If it was better then it should go DOWN even more because that would mean JB beat them last year in BAD weather.

I wasn't there this year, it was just amazing that Barry and myself both finished 188 before finals and his rating was 30 points higher....I guess i don't understand the official/non-official ratings thing.

JB's 183 last years should have been >1050 golf

I wasn't there this year, it was just amazing that Barry and myself both finished 188 before finals and his rating was 30 points higher....I guess i don't understand the official/non-official ratings thing.

JB's 183 last years should have been >1050 golf



More like >1060

The ratings have taken a cue from baseball and decided to get JUICE on ROIDS...The ratings are going SKY HIGH why I'm busy working :mad:

I'm sure it will all get fixed after Worlds so my rating will remain puny :(

The ratings have taken a cue from baseball and decided to JUICE...The ratings are going SKY HIGH why I'm busy working :mad:

I'm sure it will all get fixed after Worlds so my rating will remain puny :(



Yeah because soon 1017 will barely put you above the 1015 Intermediate cutoff line. At least you will be able to play ADV again Kevin. :D

Chuck keep the current rating system for the MA1 and bring back the 2005 rating system for the PROS...maybe we can trick a few of those MA1's :D

At least you will be able to play ADV again Kevin.



OH TRUST ME, I CANT WAIT! The same kind of anticipation like I was waiting for X-Mas to come when I was 8.

As long as I decline cash until next year I can move back right?????

Is that the rule. Well if the ratings keep going so high you will be able to petition the PDGA for you AM status again.

OK, here's a mini contest. The prize is that I'll tell your new rating before it's posted online and you'll be the only one(s) this time.

Brian Skinner threw an unbelievable round of 41 at the Virginia Open the end of last May that was rated 1101. Unfortunately, it wasn't calculated correctly because the Ams played a different course than the pros. Roger is in the process of correcting that rating while doing this April update. Skinner's rating went up. Everyone who can guess the new record round rating for Skinner will get the early scoop on their new April rating. One guess per person.

OK, here's a mini contest. The prize is that I'll tell your new rating before it's posted online and you'll be the only one(s) this time.

Brian Skinner threw an unbelievable round of 41 at the Virginia Open the end of last May that was rated 1101. Unfortunately, it wasn't calculated correctly because the Ams played a different course than the pros. Roger is in the process of correcting that rating while doing this April update. Skinner's rating went up. Everyone who can guess the new record round rating for Skinner will get the early scoop on their new April rating. One guess per person.




1121 BTW that is NOT fair. :DDid I reach 995?

You said you would tell the "rating" and i am just asking for a general idea :D

I would guess 1125

1114

I already know that my rating is going up three points so I don't care. If it turns out to be four points, I'll dance a little happy dance. I might get a little bounce in July when my bad lefty rounds age out and everyone else's juiced rounds start to age out. When you were all getting juiced, I was playing a lot of bad lefty rounds, and some of them got juiced enough to count! :D

I have two lefty rounds in my rating. Heck one is over my rating. :D

1111

Just changing the title so people know this is happening.

1108

1122

1113

1102

1099

1140

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=obsessed

1110

1112!

1118

1128

he gave you the answer
9-less
so I'll go 1092

1117

1121

1111

1115

OK, here's a mini contest. The prize is that I'll tell your new rating before it's posted online and you'll be the only one(s) this time.

Brian Skinner threw an unbelievable round of 41 at the Virginia Open the end of last May that was rated 1101. Unfortunately, it wasn't calculated correctly because the Ams played a different course than the pros. Roger is in the process of correcting that rating while doing this April update. Skinner's rating went up. Everyone who can guess the new record round rating for Skinner will get the early scoop on their new April rating. One guess per person.



I was the one who pointed out this error. I should get my rating before anyone! :D

1116

1109

1111

Post deleted by Puli_Mon

1187

When does the contest end?

If Barry's 45 at White in BG =1098 then Skinner's 41 at the Grange has to be

<font color="blue">2112 </font>

<font color="red"> RUSH! </font>

Best rock album evva!

(I've played both courses)

AMEN!! :cool:

When does the contest end?




When the April update is considered reviewed, corrected and ready for posting which might be Saturday. Posting is still planned for Monday regardless.

1105.

1119

Who cares? :)

Is my middle number a 5? :D

Who cares? :)



No one really, I think Chuck is trying to get the message board server to crash with everyone throwing up guesses and overloading the processor.

It's the disc golf version of guessing the number of jelly beans in the jar for Easter. :)

It's the disc golf version of guessing the number of jelly beans in the jar for Easter. :)



I won that in 6th grade. Hit the number right on the money. :D

Chuck,

Has this been implemented yet? And what about the new factor that was added to the ratings calc?


So, we have dropped the boost factor (per hole) from .045 to .02.

The April ratings include the reduced boost. Dave will change it in the online unofficial ratings display software when he has time to find where it is. It's included in the revised SSA League spreadsheet but he hasn't made it available online yet for download.

With the boost change, all bets are off, but I believe his rating will come in at about 1112 without changing the boost. But then again I am pretty sure I already know what my next rating will be anyway.


The April ratings include the reduced boost. Dave will change it in the online unofficial ratings display software when he has time to find where it is. It's included in the revised SSA League spreadsheet but he hasn't made it available online yet for download.

1113

1104

1118

I'm in...1116

1117.

1384

1119

Chuck, did i go up more then 20 points? :D

Yes, your rating is over 20 :D

1111

Well that is much better then I have played all month then.... :D

I think it's 1117

1117

i'll pick 1117 too

(suckers :D)

ahh crap...you pulling a riddle out on us???..if so i found the mis-direct in your post to lead people astray....too bad i already guessed even though the chances of getting it right are pretty slim

So far 5 people are correct...

"skinner's rating went up" leads me to believe that the round rating went down..

1099!

You are wrong, five people have guessed it correctly.

Rats

1117

6 people are now correct. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

1117

7 are correct now :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

1117

Just put the new ^%^%$#^%$ ratings up already :p

I just gotta know!

1117 :D

i think im changing my guess to 1117

1117...just to be like the others...and I am curious to know what my rating is changing to since I actually have rounds played since 2004...if I am correct all those old ones got dropped since I have 8 or more in the last 12 months...correct?

Rounds only get dropped if you have newer rated rounds more than 12 months after the ones you want dropped. They don't drop just because the clock moves, only if you "move."

OK..so my last rated rounds before this last update were in 2004. I have played 8 rated rounds in 2006. So the old should pass away and my new rating will be based on the last 8 rounds with the last 2 (25%) will be double wighted?
I am new to this whole rating discussion but have been working with numbers all week so why not try to decipher one more Rosetta Stone... :)

Correct. Since you didn't play in 2005 and you now have at least 8 rounds in the most recent 12 months, only your new 8 will be involved in your new rating with the most recent 2 rounds double weighted.

Cool and thanks..that will help me out a lot to have some very bad (but fun :) ) rounds dropped. My rating should go up considerably. Thanks for the answers and I can't wait till Monday to see if my idea of my new rating will be is right.

Chuck did I continue my streak of my rating never doing anything but go up?

aging wanna-be pro master with a horrible first round at memorial..will i be able to play advanced at the end of the month? :eek:



still counts as first time since i qouted my post and didn't ask again in a new post :D
it's been over a week now :eek:

Chuck... out of curiosity... when a tournament is officially entered into the system and the "Unofficial Ratings" become "Official" do they tend to rise or fall?

Just curious because I've been calculating mine out all year so far (prognosticating a nine point jump if they all stay the same, lol) and I'm wondering which direction I'll be off in.


-Chris.

Once the online formula gets corrected (downward) they will be close but will always potentially be unreliable based on several TDs either not understanding how to set course layouts for each division or not taking the time to do it for the unofficial online calculations. At this point, if all of your online ratings were done properly and your calculations are correct, you are still probably 5-6 points too high due to the 2005 factor boost still being in there.

Once the online formula gets corrected (downward) they will be close but will always potentially be unreliable based on several TDs either not understanding how to set course layouts for each division or not taking the time to do it for the unofficial online calculations. At this point, if all of your online ratings were done properly and your calculations are correct, you are still probably 5-6 points too high due to the 2005 factor boost still being in there.


It is baffling why anyone cares about ratings. The ratings system is has a different formula every update (boosts, corections, etc...) and there are most likely a lot of scoring problems such as the Skinner round. I also believe there isn't nearly enough data (rounds) for PDGA players to handicap their play. Ratings are a cool novelty, but they are about as accurate as the old Player Degree Rating. I don't care what Skinner's rating is going to be, I don't care what my rating is going to be, I don't care what MTL's rating is going to be. Maybe it's just me. Let's go play some golf.

Im going to go with 1117 Chuck and I think my rating is going to be 965 or better and I believe my standard deviation will change as well so I wont have any rounds in my rating below 900 :D:D:D

Am I correct???

1117 for me please. There is a +-12 point deviation for this vote (to make sure I get the correct score. :) )

I voted 1117 before reading the last 5 pages! Do I get best psychic guess?

While I am at it, I'm gonna guess that George Bush will not get voted president next election. :)

I will have no ratings under 900, not because of Standard Deviation, but because I haven't shot an 800 round in a year. I predict I am going up at least 4 points, possibly 6.

And I predict I'm gonna STILL be ahead of MTL.

I have a sub-900 round of 842 that is staying I beleive :( Badly wrapped 4 week old broken ankle that round(i should get simpathy points on that round :) ) i could barely walk after about 7 holes....shot 90 points better the second round with no wrap at all....helps to play with circulation and not being nearly in tears after each throw, or step for that matter...lol. Still my rating should go up more then 20 points, I am thinking to about 935. Am I close Chuck? + or - ?? :D

1117 (Hi Ryan G and Dave V!)

One event showed up in our latest pass with several Rec players posting rounds in the 1050 neighborhood so Roger will need to make another run.

Hey Chuck, you think the ratings might be out Sunday :D.

Once the online formula gets corrected (downward) they will be close but will always potentially be unreliable based on several TDs either not understanding how to set course layouts for each division or not taking the time to do it for the unofficial online calculations. At this point, if all of your online ratings were done properly and your calculations are correct, you are still probably 5-6 points too high due to the 2005 factor boost still being in there.


It is baffling why anyone cares about ratings. The ratings system is has a different formula every update (boosts, corections, etc...) and there are most likely a lot of scoring problems such as the Skinner round. I also believe there isn't nearly enough data (rounds) for PDGA players to handicap their play. Ratings are a cool novelty, but they are about as accurate as the old Player Degree Rating. I don't care what Skinner's rating is going to be, I don't care what my rating is going to be, I don't care what MTL's rating is going to be. Maybe it's just me. Let's go play some golf.


I am statistics obsessive. If there is a way to get a statistic I want to calculate it out, figure out its meaning, and examine it inside and out. That's what I do. Thats why I love baseball and basketball so much. I wish there were more statistics I could muck around with in Disc Golf.


-Chris.

Dave won't be into the office until Monday to do the setup work to post them. So Roger may not have the rerun until late Sunday or Monday morning.

Cool. Thanks.

TICK , TICK , TICK .......
I am waiting with baited breath !
( singing ) AN-TIS-I-PAAA-TION , AN-TIS-I-PA-AA-TION , is making me wait . ( with all due respect to carly simon )

I hear that mints can help that. It might also help if you quit eating worms... :p


TICK , TICK , TICK .......
I am waiting with baited breath !
( singing ) AN-TIS-I-PAAA-TION , AN-TIS-I-PA-AA-TION , is making me wait . ( with all due respect to carly simon )

Mints , well I can tell you peeps dont work to well , neither does hershey kisses or peanut butter cups . ;)
mints I will try next , there are a hole bunch of them in a plastic rap in the basket thanks for the idea .

ETA? Common gives a time :D

http://www.worldofnumbers.com/2112.jpg

Just stay away from the large green ones in the porcelain bowls or baited breath will be the least of your problems.... :cool:


Mints , well I can tell you peeps dont work to well , neither does hershey kisses or peanut butter cups . ;)
mints I will try next , there are a hole bunch of them in a plastic rap in the basket thanks for the idea .

Reminds me of one of my favorite lines of all time in the movies . Roadhouse ( with Patrick Swazye and Sam Elliot )
They are bouncers at different bars talking on the phone
Sam says to Patrick , " this place is so tough we have a sign above the urinal that says " dont eat the big white mint "


:D :D :D LMAO

Jack Smalls, EOG, MTL, and Olsen go up, Hatfield goes down. Mills will get to the low 960's, Scooter will get to the low 990's, and one of the Frizzaks will be 1000 even.

How about some bonus rating points as a birthday gift, I won't tell anyone.

What's my new rating gonna be????? :D :D

Jack Smalls, EOG, MTL, and Olsen go up, Hatfield goes down. Mills will get to the low 960's, Scooter will get to the low 990's, and one of the Frizzaks will be 1000 even.



One of these days my ratings gonna drop - it's just got too.

I'll probably get up to the mid 950's....had hoped for higher at the beginning of the year, but I guess I'm not practicing enough.....Should crack the 960's in time for TULSA<------------

chanting to
" we want a pitcher not a belly itcher "

"We want the new ratings
not another day of waiting "

Dave says he's on track to post them sometime before he heads home from PDGA HQ today.

does that mean the other frizzaks went down?

what about JJ

Not as good as QQ, KK, or AA, but still good.

whats QQ, KK, and AA?

come on man, it's POKER!

You got a good hand, but Anthony Adinolfi would have you beat on the flop. :)

Thanks for thr rating Chuck, I went up a whole 5 points. :D

1117

So if Chain Chinger got his rating, does that mean 1117 was correct? if so, I wanna know!

You can thank Sandalman for busting the contest. Anyone who guessed 1117 after his post is DQ'd. Chain Chinger was the only one to get it right with a legit guess before the bust. Dave has the final pass being reviewed now. If all goes well, we'll have the new update in an hour or so.

I'm guessing I went from 904 to 909 :D

If all goes well, we'll have the new update in an hour or so.



Great and I won't be back on for three hours. :D

Hey, David. I think I'm gonna be right there with you around 910 or so. I am playing Advanced only now, though. I'm dropping around 6 sub 900 rounds this update and around 10 more the next update!!!

That's an excellent guess :D

Great and I won't be back on for three hours.



Well, you'll have your new one for about 1728 more hours.

Youth is wasted on the young... :D

You can thank Sandalman for busting the contest

thats a pretty unfair accusation, chuck. especially coming from someone who deliberately falsified the ratings last time to prevent an unknown with few rounds from being ranked #1 in the world.

I'm blaming sandalman for global warming

Great and I won't be back on for three hours.

Well, you'll have your new one for about 1728 more hours.

I can't wait that long. How about if you tell me now what my rating will be then? :D

I've got my fingers crossed that I can drop to 955

I've got my fingers crossed that I can drop to 955



954 would be a lot better for you.

I've got my fingers crossed that I can drop to 955



just say your name is efrain salazar #21173 and bingo your there!! :D:D:p

I'm blaming sandalman for global warming

it was me, but how'd you ever figure it out? i thought i had it pretty well pinned on the republicans and Big Oil :eek:

JimG, you don't call, you don't write... we never see you anymore. Just confess that you've found a new city to call home so H-town can try to move on,,,,,

It's all those **** disc golfers driving their SUVs to tournaments.

in that case H-town is gonna positively bake this weekend!

JimG, you don't call, you don't write... we never see you anymore. Just confess that you've found a new city to call home so H-town can try to move on,,,,,



I was at Tom Bass on Saturday. I'll be there quite a bit this coming weekend.

ratings are up

I didn't drop....

Although I did not go up, I did not drop either.

man, only 1 point. and I dropped a 904 rated tournament and replaced it with a 965 rated tournament. and I only have like 11 tournaments...

oh well, got trumped by MTL.... curses.

Dang. Added a 1000 round and a 1024 round and didn't move a lick. :(

my standard deviation went down!!!

Dang. Added a 1000 round and a 1024 round and didn't move a lick. :(



My rating hasn't moved 10 points since July 1 2001

Is my game really that boring :confused:

Nice edit, Kev! :)

Did anyone else notice that 4 of the top 5 rated ams have 0, 1, or only 2 tournaments to their credt? And what's up with #1 not having any tournaments but a huge rating.

The last one of the top 5 played pro in his last tourney after winning three to start the season.

Yay! 14 point jump! And I had myself calced out to only jump 8!

*cheers*

Did anyone else notice that 4 of the top 5 rated ams have 0, 1, or only 2 tournaments to their credt? And what's up with #1 not having any tournaments but a huge rating.



That's a bad query. It only shows rounds this year, not all rounds that go into the rating.

Hmm, but I don't see any rounds for #1 even going back through the last several years.

#3 (Martino) also played Pro in his last tourney.

Sweet! I jumped up 28 points :)

yeah i wouldnt even be rated in the top 10 of AMs

I'm down a point on light trading and a disappointing quarterly earnings forecast. All in all, that's o.k. :D

yeah i wouldnt even be rated in the top 10 of AMs



What makes you think you would be anyway?? :p

yeah i wouldnt even be rated in the top 10 of AMs



Yeah but you have won more money then they have playing this game.

I guess 5 points is ok but I figured averaging 17 points above my rating at that time shooting 1005 golf and with the double weighted thingy would move me up a few more points. Oh well I have my worst rounds of last year dropping over the summer. :D

My rating hasn't moved 10 points since July 1 2001




You peeked and are piqued that you've peaked?

I am soooooo crushed .
I played in a PDGA in Oklahoma in late march and it must not have made the cut in time . I was hoping to have my player rating adjusted to reflect it . :(

but I figured averaging 17 points above my rating at that time shooting 1005 golf



Remember that the inflated online ratings gave you a false view of what you were really shooting.

but I figured averaging 17 points above my rating at that time shooting 1005 golf



Remember that the inflated online ratings gave you a false view of what you were really shooting.



No I did that using my current stats.

You have me by one point !!!!!

You have me by one point !!!!!



Score!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought I was a bit more than that but , maybe next time !!!! :D

Hey Chuck I can't post this under announcements but what do you do if you didn't receive your worlds invite in the mail yet? My dad and I were both invited but nothing in the mail yet. :confused:

So Barry has averaged 1057 since the beginning of Feburary! wow . . . .

My dad and I were both invited but nothing in the mail yet.




Contact PDGA HQ.

Ok thanks

My rating hasn't moved 10 points since July 1 2001




You peeked and are piqued that you've peaked?



Hey Chuck,

What were the bracket for events used? :p

If events up to 3/30/06 made the update then why do I still have poo-poo rounds from March '05 figured into my rating? :p

10 points is fine BUT I figured more.. :D

Everyone's personal 12 months counts back from the date of their most recent round. If your most recent round was the Memorial, that's what counts, not March 30th. Count back 365 days before the actual dates of the Memorial and you'll see why mid-March 2005 events are still in there.

Chuck how did Epi ramirez get a 990 rating when his only event in his stats averaged 980?

With three rounds at one event, the best round gets double weighted. Double weighting starts at three rounds. Then, one more round gets double weighted at 7, 11, 15, etc.

I just noticed no one from Australia had their ratings updated. Do you update international ratings at different times? or was it that none of the TD's down here sent results in on time?

In that case I need to stop playing PDGA events for a while and come back and play one event with three rounds because I always play good in the last round. :D

Thanks chuck.

It doesn't even have to be your last round, just your best round if it's just three in the same event.

You can click on the Australians, look at their ratings details and see whether any new events got entered since the last update.

the ratings detail says the current ratings are as of 14th of feb 2006 for the Australians. While everyone elses says 18th of april.

Does this mean that these numbers are not going to be updated? I know we had a few tournaments since the start of the year.

There was 1 event in AUS but the results weren't turned in.

Everyone's personal 12 months counts back from the date of their most recent round. If your most recent round was the Memorial, that's what counts, not March 30th. Count back 365 days before the actual dates of the Memorial and you'll see why mid-March 2005 events are still in there.



Oh, I see now where I once was Blind /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
:D

There was 1 event in AUS but the results weren't turned in.



Really???

I thought there was two :confused:

Can't wait to see that sub-900 crap drop off! But it'll be a while till that last one goes. Oh wheeelll.

There was 1 event in AUS but the results weren't turned in.



Really???

I thought there was two :confused:



Look it up yourself on the Tour page. I only saw 1.

Another steady increase for the DiscPimp :D:D:D Man I cant wait till those freakin sub 900 rounds go away..........I think I might be the only player rated in the 960s with MULTIPLE sub 900 rounds counted in his rating :eek: :eek: :eek:

Oh and as for Orc and Park and 15 Putt...........I love when people talk crap about how much there ratings are going to go up and then they DONT ROFLMFAO!!!

Im shooting for 980 by next update :D:D:D

See you guys around

Man I cant wait till those freakin sub 900 rounds go away..........I think I might be the only player rated in the 960s with MULTIPLE sub 900 rounds counted in his rating

MULTIPLE huh? you have 2 sub 900 rated rounds counted... WOW. try having 7 or so before you start whining.

Man I cant wait till those freakin sub 900 rounds go away..........I think I might be the only player rated in the 960s with MULTIPLE sub 900 rounds counted in his rating

MULTIPLE huh? you have 2 sub 900 rated rounds counted... WOW. try having 7 or so before you start whining.


Dude, you need to play more tournaments.

if there were only more weekends... last year will probably be the pinnacle of tournament play

Oh and as for Orc and Park and 15 Putt...........I love when people talk crap about how much there ratings are going to go up and then they DONT ROFLMFAO!!!



The number on the card does not dictate how I am playing. My blow up rounds were terrible enough to off set the good rounds I have been having. Take away the rounds were I felt were completely off base, and I would have increased to 945. But since we cannot do that, oh well.

All that matters is the order of finish in the tournament at hand. I have stopped worrying about what my rating means a couple of months ago. Now I just focus on what lies ahead of me.

My rating has not hindered my plans for moving up. See you in Tulsa man.

I may be nieve to ask, or may be missing a post someplace, but i am new to the whole ratings game etc...
Just wondering why mine as an AM didnt change even with me playing a 2 rd. single day tourney on March 18th.

I know ratings wont go up much if any, but it still says:
as of 15-DEC on my ratings.

Just curious if it should have posted or if it might just be no Am's have posted yet??

Just wondering why mine as an AM didnt change even with me playing a 2 rd. single day tourney on March 18th.



The TD probably didnt turn in the report in time for the update.

Got my rating up two more points to 996, just 4 to go. Unfortunately, I up and moved to Boulder colorado, the land where it's **** near impossible to get 1000+ rated tournament rounds because of the severe lack of propagators. I guess I'll never hit that elusive 1000 mark.

Pretend I'm 3 years old...what's a propagator?

A propagator is a PDGA member rated over 800 with enough recent rounds that they can be used to generate ratings for other players. Chuck could tell you how many rounds they have to have and how many propagators you have to have.

A shortage of propagators would have no bearing on the difficulty of getting a 1000 rated round any more than it would on the difficulty of getting ratings generally. Either you have enough gators and every member gets a rating or you don't and no one gets a rating. Either way you have to shoot a 1000 rated round relative to the average score and average rating of the propagaors.

A propagator is a current PDGA member who has a rating over 799 based on at least 8 rounds. At least 5 must play a round in order for everyone to get a rating that round. That's why it's important for TDs to take this into consideration when they have lower divisions play different layouts if they want to make sure these players will get ratings.

A propagator is a current PDGA member who has a rating over 799 based on at least 8 rounds. At least 5 must play a round in order for everyone to get a rating that round. That's why it's important for TDs to take this into consideration when they have lower divisions play different layouts if they want to make sure these players will get ratings.



Isn't propagator one of those banned words?

Since I haven't played any tournaments that would have reported there results in time, My rating would have stayed the same anyways; Correct or Incorrect?

I turned In my PDGA membership at my first tournament this year and it went through today, two days after the ratings update.

I figured either way I was staying within a couple of points of what I had, but I was curious.

A propagator is a current PDGA member who has a rating over 799 based on at least 8 rounds...

i thought you rounded down. is a 799.01 rated player a propagator now?

Since I haven't played any tournaments that would have reported there results in time, My rating would have stayed the same anyways; Correct or Incorrect?




Correct. It won't change until you play another event that gets reported in time for the next update.

I think I might be the only player rated in the 960s with MULTIPLE sub 900 rounds counted in his rating :eek: :eek: :eek:




Yes, I think it's true . . . you MUST be the worst 963 rated golfer in the world! :p

Or at least the most inconsistant. :D

Or at least the most incontinent. :D

Or at least the most incontinent. :D




Or at least the most incompetent.

I think I might be the only player rated in the 960s with MULTIPLE sub 900 rounds counted in his rating :eek: :eek: :eek:




Your prolly right Chris!!! :D

Yes, I think it's true . . . you MUST be the worst 963 rated golfer in the world! :p

There was 1 event in AUS but the results weren't turned in.



Booking a trip to Australia ? :D

Is the update on schedule so far?

Everything processed and passed to Roger EXCEPT the monster BG Am event. We have to wait for Dave to get back from Japan to do all of the virtual pools required to get that in the mix. Still on track for June 27.

Thanks Chuck.

Ok well I predicted 997-998 but since a few events never were turned in it will be like 995. :confused:

My prediction for myself is 976

My rating will only go from a 908 to about a 913. It really sucks that my 1st ever sanctioned tourney last year bombed my rating. I have only 2 rounds below my rating in the last 8 months. My round rating average over the last 6 months has been about a 935.
I'm not complaining about the system, I just think I am a much better player than my rating. I have improved exponentially this year.

Im gonna PLUMIT :(

I should have DNF'd after tearing my Tricep in the 1st Rd at Golden State........ /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

But, then I wouldnt have played that AWESOME course.....
though it sure hurt..... :p

:D

I am pretty sure I dropped this time.

i think i might actually go back up a little

I think I may get a rating.

I am thinking 945 for me...I get some crud dropped off and some more consistent rounds put in so my SD should drop too.

Where are Dirty and Gwillim with the predictions???

i should get to 964...

looks like i have some work to do if i am going to hit 1000... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

i woulda gone over 940, but COTO and WATERLOO did not get the results in on time :confused: :( :mad:

Waterloo wont count anyway because of the maligans :D