Thanks Larry.

... 2 more days and the weather looks great :D

Can't wait , I guess 488 others can't either

Let's hope the van gets fixed before then. THe other car might not make it! :confused: rWc3523 :cool:

YES!! 22 short hours before we depart. I am bursting with excitement thinking about KY!!! Sucks it'll be raining all friday, but we will have a good time anyway. Maybe I'll have to set up a mini course around the pool! Oh man, I can almost smell the chlorine..

Packing starts tonight, I'm ready to roll!

Two questions though...

There was some talk earlier about one of the Intermediate courses not being ready, did the work finish?

Also, i know i've asked, and i've seen others ask on this thread but no one has given an answer yet. Which of the Intermediate courses would it be best to play on Friday if the weather allows? I think i'll have time for two, so i want to make it the best two.

Wow, looks like the MA1 field is going to take up all 4 main courses.

245 MA1 players

They can fit 4-somes on each hole.
4 x 72 = 288

Or with 5-somes
4 x 90 = 360

With stragglers, and people who refuse to preregister there could be more advanced players then can physically fit on the courses. This is stupid crazy.

All if favor of caps say aye......

AYE!

With stragglers, and people who refuse to preregister there could be more advanced players then can physically fit on the courses. This is stupid crazy.

All if favor of caps say aye......

AYE!



I'm more in favor of adding late registers (i.e., anybody signing up in person in the days just prior to the event or after the Online registration closes) to the bottom pool, regardless of rating.

I know Ron Huspen is registering Friday. I say put him in the A-pool! :D

So... Now I might not know where I'm playing until Sat. morning, when it will be too late to practice? I'm hoping ($300 vehicle repair bill looming before we leave) to get there about 3 p.m. Friday, but if Adv. Masters aren't playing the four main courses, I'd like to have an idea where we ARE going to play so I could at least look at one of the other three courses. Griffin I know, but the others I've never laid eyes on. A cap on advanced might not be a bad idea. rWc#3523 :cool:

There are 316 players already registered in the Advanced divisions that are slated to play the four original courses.

FA1 -- 19
MM1 -- 52
MA1 -- 245

Which means that there are only 44 spots left in these three divisions before we hit 5 players per card on all 4 coures (360 players).

I'd really hate to see considerate, early-registering FA1 or MM1 players get down-graded from the courses that they thought they signed up for to make room for some MA1 players who were too lazy or too inconsiderate to do what 488 others were able to: sign up early.

More than that, I'd hate to see the TD decide to go back to last year's 3-flights per course format.

So Larry --- what is the contingency plan in case more than 44 MA1, FA1, or MM1 players sign up between now and Saturday? I think a lot of people who have already signed up with expectations of playing a particular set of courses or a particular format (2 flights per course per day) might be curious to know before they depart on their long road trips.

I know Ron Huspen is registering Friday. I say put him in the A-pool! :D



I say put him on the DFL card in the D pool. :eek:

With stragglers, and people who refuse to preregister there could be more advanced players then can physically fit on the courses. This is stupid crazy.

All if favor of caps say aye......

AYE!



I'm more in favor of adding late registers (i.e., anybody signing up in person in the days just prior to the event or after the Online registration closes) to the bottom pool, regardless of rating.



Personally, I would cap the field at 270

There are already 82 posted entrants in the other Advanced divisions. They would have to cap Advanced at 270 and then only let 8 more players enter in the other advanced fields without moving them to the other 4 courses.

Again, I am not running the show. All I know is that I refuse to play in a 6-some, I actually do not even believe that is allowed per PDGA rules. But I have no sympathy for people registering late. I like your idea of putting late regisrants in the bottom pool. Incentive for signing up early. At my event, even though it will not fill, I am sorting starting cards by order of recieved entries per division. Don't want to start on the last hole, pregregister. It makes it so much easier on the TD.

With all these people having to check in, I am surprised they are even allowing on site sign ups.

LOL, I'd rather he be in Estenbagger's or Big Pimpin's head-game instead of a new advanced player's. :D

LOL, I'd rather he be in Estenbagger's or Big Pimpin's head-game instead of a new advanced player's. :D



It does not matter what pool you are in. We all are playing the same 4 courses. Ratings don't mean diddly when it comes to present performance.

Put him on hole 18 of D-pool for not making a decision to come until the last minute. Plus he is not even current with the PDGA, so he has no rating. D-Pool. LOL!

One of the reason BG does well is that we don't turn players away nor do we have a deadline to sign-up. Obviously with growing numbers that maybe something that happens in the next year or so. We won't be running any 3 rounds per course as we did last year. I planned it last year expecting close to the numbers we got but obviously not that many. I don't won't the hassel of the rush on us and everyone playing so we will just do the 2 rounds which gives us time to work with. With that being said we may have to move some players if need be in order to fit divisions.

This is the way it goes, once we fill the c-pool with adv men we will overflow to the d-pool tring to keep the adv. mast, and adv women in that pool. If we have to move someone to accomidate a few more players we will move the women first as they are the smallest divison. Right now no-one is havign to move but Friday night could change that.

I am sure after this year's obvious turn out that we will have to make some changes for next year. We will try our best to do what we can for everyone. There is no-way to know if we will have to move the Adv Mast, or Adv women untill we see how Friday night goes. I know we won't make everyone happy but will try to do the best we can.

So maybe I'm confused... Are advanced masters included in the "advanced," who will be playing the four "A" courses? Not that I'd have a big problem playing the other four, I'd just like to know ahead of time. But I REALLY want to play Lovers and Keriakes. Right now I'm just hoping to get up there :( rWc3523 :cool:

Uh, Larry, this advanced master wouldn't mind somewhere OTHER than White Park :DrWc3523 :cool:

Thanks Larry,

I think I can speak for everyone, when I say we all apprieciate all the hard work you are putting into this event. After all, all divisions will play the same courses as their competitors. I know that the main 4 courses are part of the draw, but we will have to just deal with all decisions you make.

A lot of us, just like spouting off. I hope you don't take us too seriously. I am running a C-Tier event that will probably only have 40-50 players. If I magnify my issues and problems by 100, I might have an idea of what you are going through. Thanks so much for putting up with all the MA1 pre-madonna's.


BG is my favorite place to play DG. On these courses, it is anybodys tournament. They favor nobody. Big Arms, Short Arms, power players, finesse players, Lefties and Righties can dominate. Friday cannot get here soon enough. Thankfully I am ducking work early to get out and get my arm loose from the brutality that Huntsville put on it this past weekend.

Currently the Adv Master and Adv Women will play the same courses as the Adv men. This would only change if numbers prevented us from it.

Thanks for all the support.

Russ,
I disagree, but are we not allowed to disagree.
Original 4 courses is where my mind is at!
RonSTL
16479

No problem Ron. I'm all for playing the same courses as the advanced, BUT, if we were bumped, I'd rather be bumped from White Park. Nothing against it, it's just that my arm's still recovering from Huntsville last week ;) Out of the four, White's my least favorite and Lovers is my favorite. Keriakes and Hobson come in second and third. But I'll play wherever they put me. rWc3523 :cool:

Dear Advanced Women who have pre-registered and were planning on coming into town a little early to practice the 4 courses you thought you were playing:

You might want to show up a little earlier, as there are 4 other courses you might be playing. We'll let you know for sure Saturday morning.

P.S. This might also apply to you Advanced Master guys, too.

Ron and Russ --- if you Adv. Masters guys get bumped from one of the four original courses, you will be bumped from all four original courses.

You'll instead play the four alternative courses. See how much simpler that is?

I don't like the sound of that, Rooster. ;) I'd will be playing three courses I've never seen, but likely the other 50 some odd MM1s will be in the same boat. I'll not let it bother me, but I sure hate to play an A tier on three courses I've never seen and get to play once! If I know BEFORE Friday night, I could at least play one and walk one possibly since my kid and wife will be playing those courses anyway. Oh, well, it is the BG Ams and it will be better than working! :D rWc3523 :cool:

This may of been answered earlier but how will the INT pools be detirmined? by rating right?

I have someone i can ride with but his rating is higher than mine, is there a way we could possibly get in the same pool?

YES!! 22 short hours before we depart. I am bursting with excitement thinking about KY!!! Sucks it'll be raining all friday, but we will have a good time anyway. Maybe I'll have to set up a mini course around the pool! Oh man, I can almost smell the chlorine..



O don't worry about setting up a mini course we set up some throwing off balconys ask will corey about that.

O don't worry about setting up a mini course we set up some throwing off balconys ask will corey about that.




so I should bring the mini basket? I wonder if my dad will mind
;) :p

See you guys soon..heading down in 3 hours....SWEET!!

Im taking Proto Teerexs with me. Look me up if it gets windy.

16$

Yeah, will bring the mini basket. Shoot, we'll bring the M-14 if there's room. The van's fixed ($350 I didn't anticipate) but at least we'll get there. Mini golf at the Six! :)We'll live on White Castle's, but it's BG Ams!! :p rWc3523 :cool:

I am sure we will be loaded down. I am just wondering when we will find out about where each person in our van will be playing. Sounds like that will be decided on the last day. Oh well will see you tomorrow in BG.


Icey

Looking forward to meetin' ya Beth! ;)

Sure do hope the FA1's get to play the good courses... :confused: Guess we'll see Saturday morning. Is it selfish of me to not want any more Adv men to register???

Tomorrow? :confused: We're not leaving until Friday :DSomeone's in a hurry to get there ;) rWc#3523 :cool:

That is NOT good.

RonSTL
16479

Tomorrow? :confused: We're not leaving until Friday :DSomeone's in a hurry to get there ;) rWc#3523 :cool:



we can leave tommorow thats fine ;)

I know Ron Huspen is registering Friday. I say put him in the A-pool! :D



If I have to play with the R Factor again this year I swear to god I dont know what I will do!!! :mad::mad::mad: He COMPLETELY RUINED MY ROUND AT HOBSON LAST YEAR!!!

Thanks Rooster,

Please leave what was said earilier on the thread that we were playing white, hobson, kierakas(spelling) and lovers. I set this whole trip up w/all my vacation this year taken up by golf and could not take any other days off. Change at the last minute on courses is not ok by me. I know what I was coming to play and have done so for the last 5 years to change on the last 48 hours, not ok in my book. I cannot even be there till 8-9pm friday because of no vacation because of discgolf.

Just a thought. I will be there regardless.
Ron

Russ,
Are you staying host? I could definitely bring another mini if needed.

Ron

Kelsey and I will have to withdraw from the tournament and look for a refund. We don't have a transportation plan if we are on different courses. We can't even make plans if we won't know until the players meeting. :(

Russ,
Are you staying host? I could definitely bring another mini if needed.

Ron



I'm his son , but we are at the motel 6

Kelsey and I will have to withdraw from the tournament and look for a refund. We don't have a transportation plan if we are on different courses. We can't even make plans if we won't know until the players meeting. :(



Thats disappointing, really it is. I would say with the amount of people, travel plans are easy to arrange on the spot. But I can also understand where having to do that can be a problem.

I, for one, will be willing to give someone a ride (assuming we're in the same pool--Advanced men). I'm the only one in my car, so anyone in my pool is welcome.

Yes, I realize that no one knows yet but I wanted to offer anyway...

Daniel

I also know my way around BG...lived there during college! :D

So who should I tell the DGTV crew that is heading down right now to watch for/film this weekend?? I know who the talkers are on the board here, but who's gonna show it to the camera's??
Good Luck to all, smile........... You could be on DGTV.
Timmy Gill
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All you people talking about leaving tomorrow.. geez... I'm leaving in TWO HOURS ;)

take shifts driving/sleeping, get there at sunup... and start throwing!

Its a good thing I'm still young with a rubber arm, round after round after round, w00t!

me and mills got here at 2 pm we already played hobson where playin keriakes and white park 2marrow, then doubles at lovers on friday see you guys at the top after the first round on on saturday :cool:

Bruce, If I get the vehicle, I'll give ya a ride, but the three of us will be playing differnent places at different times. I believe my son (am) will have a ride, but my wife (am women) and I (MM1) haven't decided who will get the van. If I can work it out you can ride with me. We're gonna be at the Motel 6. rWc3523 :cool:

Some of us TN Boyz will be arriving about 9am CST on friday.

HEY YO TIMMY! Any of the DGTV staff going to tape some of the Doubles Mini Tourney at Lovers Lane on Friday? 2 tee off times: one at 12pm and one at 3pm. Might be some cool footage of the festivaties associated with a big event like BGAms.

P.S.: Players Party Sat. Night! w00t w00t!

Over a dozen St. Louis players are coming. I for one have been catching Disc TV on MAV TV channel 405 in St. Louis.

It's a good thing.

Thanks Brian and crew....

Kelsey and I will have to withdraw from the tournament and look for a refund. We don't have a transportation plan if we are on different courses. We can't even make plans if we won't know until the players meeting. :(



I've said it once already but I'll say it again... quit your whining and <font color="red">ask someone for a ride. </font> When was the last time you met a discgolfer who wasn't willing to help out.

Kelsey and I will have to withdraw from the tournament and look for a refund. We don't have a transportation plan if we are on different courses. We can't even make plans if we won't know until the players meeting. :(



I've said it once already but I'll say it again... quit your whining and <font color="red">ask someone for a ride. </font> When was the last time you met a discgolfer who wasn't willing to help out.



And maybe you can quite being a Richard.

You do realize that Kelsey is his daughter, right? And that most good parents are a bit reluctant about sending their children off in the cars of strangers?

Does that make sense to you?If not I can draw some pictures if it would help.

Hey my dad was readily willing to send me off in cars with total stranger and look how I turned out. :p Anyway I wish all of my Tejas Bretheren(brethren*?) the best of luck this weekend in BG. :D

Oh yeah join us for some putting Friday off the Balcony at the motel 6, if theres room :cool::cool:

Better bring some yard discs, kid. That pavement is rough on putters. :D rWc

I figured that you would just be down for the final nine. That way you are guaranteed to get some good coverage.

Don't ask me about who to watch during the first four rounds. My past statistics are too low. :D

I'd put my money on Devan Owens to be up at the top when its all said and done!!!

I'd put my money on Devan Owens to be up at the top when its all said and done!!!



And I wouldn't be surprised to see Billy on the same card with Devan at the end, either!!

I was talking to Coda this weekend at the Red Rock Show, and he said, "That Billy kid sure can throw far" (I'm paraphrasing).

Sitting at the airport in Austin right now, waiting for my flight to board (not 'til 6:35 a.m.) --- **** but it's early in the morning.

Plane lands in Nashville at 9:00, my brother's flight from Houston touches down at 9:30 --- rental car to Nashville, check into our hotel, and on the courses by noon.

Have a great trip Rooster! Say hi to my Canadian buds if ya un into 'em.

YESSS. It is here. ETA 4pm today. YESSSSSS

rip it up D!

ahh, only around 12 more peroids of school left.. school needs to speed up..

My plane leaves tomorrow morning at 6:30am then Ill be in Nashville about 10:30 got to rent the car and all that and hoping to be there about 12 can't wait to make the trip its really going to be a blast.

Nah, It's actually kinda boring! :D;) :cool:

Another day of work, off tomorrow, load the stuff, get Will and hit the road. We'll try and hook y'all up in the afternoon sometime. Y'all work that out! And yeah, it'll probably be the best tournament you've seen, Justin. Ya think SN Ams is great? Nothing tops BG AMs 'cept maybe Worlds :D rWc3523 :cool:.

Thanks for the help, hope all goes well with your tourney.

Can't wait to get there, we are leaving in 2 hours!!!!!

Cam you wuss, I can't believe you backed out at the last minute :DIs it cuz you lost your D-Hawk?

hurry up work.
Strike 5 o'clock
then it's on like donkey kong

ROOOOAAD TWIP!

24hrs and I will cross the Kentucky State Line!

I don't know if this was ever brought up but it was something I just thought of this morning. Larry, you can take it for a grain of salt but it is just a suggestion.

How about mini shuffles?

Like this, say we have 3.5 pools of MA1

A and B would both play Hobson and Keriakes, while C &amp; D would play White/Lovers.

You can shuffle the A/B pools, and then the C/D pools.

Then players would be more properly matched up on Sundays rounds.

It is just a suggestion. Heck Larry, I would even help out with the doing the shuffle if that is what it would take.

Looking forward to my last BG Am Tournament. :D I will have to save up for the Open next year, twice the pay in, ouch! :eek:

Perhaps I missed it?

What time can we start to check in? It may affect what order I play the courses when I arrive in BG.

Thanks.

Friday 6-9 p.m. according to the bgdg.org. at Cumberland Trace School. See the site for directions. Players meeting at :eek: 8 a.m.!

Guess we'll be leaving NW Ala. at about 9:30-10 a.m. tomorrow. Hope some courses are available for practice! rWc3523 :cool:

Actually that was thought of and we may still do but on the other hand all those riding together would then be split. You have to figure if things stay the way they are or were planned then A & B could be shuffled but C will only be Adv Men with no one in D pool so there would be not shuffle there.

Once we get the final numbers I will have a look at it again and see and will obviously let players know at player meeting.

can't wait

The main reason I am coming to play in Bowling Green is to get another shot at the 4 courses that kicked my tail the first time I played them a few years ago. If I am not going to be playing those four may as well save $20 on my entry fee and go eat a nice dinner and sign up for Am. Women.

I know you are tired of hearing people whine about what course am I going to play and I respect you trying to allow everyone in that wants to play. But there's a saying that maybe you have heard before something about trying to make everyone happy will end up in making no one happy.

Hey Judy, Good luck from Texas!

And we all know it's an impossible task to keep the masses happy. Most aren't happy unless they are complaining about something.

I was just looking throught the entries for the ams and so that one person has cashed in open this year and has a rating to high to play am, ha how did that happen :D

This being a Major, ratings don't matter. Pros aren't allowed to play no matter how low their rating may be.

I think this guy was granted an exemption because it was during a time where there was a miscommunication in the definition of Am's taking prizes in Pro. He took a prize, then everything was cleared up.

But heck the top 1/3rd of the players in MA1 at this event shoudl be playing Pro anyway. :cool:

I think this guy was granted an exemption because it was during a time where there was a miscommunication in the definition of Am's taking prizes in Pro. He took a prize, then everything was cleared up.

But heck the top 1/3rd of the players in MA1 at this event shoudl be playing Pro anyway. :cool:



was the player in question aware of the rules mix-up?

This being a Major, ratings don't matter. Pros aren't allowed to play no matter how low their rating may be.

This is not a major, just an A-tier. Pros can play if they are rated low enough. The majors are Worlds, Mid Nationals and the USXDGCs. If the Players Cup got M-tier status, it too.

I know this is going to be a stupid question but i can't find it and I know its on here. My parents told me today they didnt have directions to the course from the host hotel. I know that the directions are on here but can someone give me them again.

ATX in da HOUSE! Safe and ROWDY!!! BG is sweet! We'll represent :D:D:D

They will have a program with maps of the course at check in, but as far for friday, I'd hate to try and give you directions. rWc3523 :cool::cool:

Good luck everyone.

Anyone need a dubs partner friday. atx roller anhyzer thumber guy in need of a partner 512 557 7428 shout. :cool:

Boobs,
There is a fricken loop hole in the rule this year. Check this thread out. It was started because I knew the same thing, being at the Canyon this year and I was not happy.

http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=523503&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=12#Post526825

RonSTL
16479

This being a Major, ratings don't matter. Pros aren't allowed to play no matter how low their rating may be.

This is not a major, just an A-tier. Pros can play if they are rated low enough. The majors are Worlds, Mid Nationals and the USXDGCs. If the Players Cup got M-tier status, it too.



Sorry, too many threads open at the same time. I was wondering where this post went. :cool:

Gonna miss ya this year, Gary! rWc3523 :cool:

were aboot to leave, see everyone in BG!

Boobs,
There is a fricken loop hole in the rule this year. Check this thread out. It was started because I knew the same thing, being at the Canyon this year and I was not happy.

http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=523503&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=12#Post526825

RonSTL
16479



John Chapman, the PDGA Competition Director, replied to this on the PDGA Announcements thread on March 21st:



Note to all amateurs:

Amateurs still may NOT accept prizes, other than trophies, in lieu of cash if they place in professional divisions, else they will forfeit their amateur status.

This line was previously contained in the PDGA Rules Book, and was inadvertantly omitted from the Tour Standards this year. This will shortly be corrected in the online documents and all the documents sent to future tournament directors.

Amnesty notice: Any amateur who accepted prizes in lieu of cash in a PDGA event during the dates January 1, 2006 to March 20, 2006 will not lose their amateur status with PDGA, due to the accidental omission of the policy in our documents.

John Chapman
PDGA Competition Director

Wow, now that's a good one.

Good ole Chappy, still the Man in MO.

Leaving 2 hrs cannot wait to get on the road.

scores?"?????

A little Thrusday action is up on DGTV. Check back daily for the action! Under the MISC tab.
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sweet!!thnx , will there be daily coverage?

In bowling green right now, weather couldnt be better and will only get better for the weekend... sat... 5-10mph and 70's :) sunny !!!!

Hey there everyone.

My name is Terry Miller and I'm one of the two marshals that will be at the event this weekend. I was running the PDGA booth at check in tonight.

Out of over 500 people there was about a handful of people that slipped by me and the PDGA and it needs to get fixed before you can compete.

I don't anticipate that these actual people will necessarily see this post before tomorrow. However, if you know some or any of these people, please let them know that they will NOT be able to compete until they find me at the player's meeting and square up with me for their PDGA dues.

Unless you can prove otherwise, I am missing PDGA dues from the following people:

Wil Ennis
Dianna Greenwell
Johnny Greenwell
Brent Elliott
Brando Wilson


Thanks - Terry Miller

represent for the ATX baby. You got this!! Pass it on to the Coopers as well. Text me some scores tomorrow.

Final player count ?

The total is 559!
Player list to be posted later.

Some Friday Action here:
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Stay tuned, more to come.......

Not that there is anyone else up wanting to see the list but it is now updated with all the players that are scheduled to play.

Everything I think went real well for as many as we had. I am glad to say we won't have to move the Adv Mast. division but as of right now will have to move the Adv. Women.

Wow is all I can say to jump up another 110 players over last year is just incredible. I know all those that got in on the first 400 were really happy with there player package. We still gave all the other 155 players a disc and mini. I know lots of players wanted XX shirts but hey we are at the mercey of are sponsors on that and they used a majority of XL. Anyway time to get off here and get some final things doen before the big day starts.

Just for all you score hounds - I will get them posted as soon as I can - please don't start asking to early - remember there are 550+ players here and it takes some time but I promise to get them up as soon as possible.

The total is 559!
Player list to be posted later.


Scroes!There's only 550 or so come on :D
LOL!

559 total players 282 ma1
Pool C Lovers hot round -8
White Hot round -2

Mark "bagger" last year winner -2 for tourney......what stories....claimed hadn't played in a month! never plays!!!lol!!!! saw 3.....35 foot putts with his ce firebird!!!!!!!! PUTTING!!!!!! bagger!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow........seemed genuine.....but such a bad liar!!!! :p :p :p :p :p :p


This is ParRoll posting.........not Rooster!!!!!!

Hope you have not been put on any hit list yet. :) :) Go you Austin boys. Make you Dad proud. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Will we have all of the scores tonight????

Well the scores just got posted. Might of missed one but will get it caught up by tomorrow.

First day highlights were that I know "A" pool had 4 aces. 2 @ Hobson #18 , Kereiakes @ 11 and Kereiakes # 9. All went real good from what I could tell. This was probably the best weather I can remember for the AM event. It was mid 70's and very little wind. They couldn't of asked for much better weather. Well off to get some stuff done will get the finals in tomorrow night as soon as I can. See you all

where may we view the scores?

Mark "bagger" last year winner -2 for tourney......what stories....claimed hadn't played in a month! never plays!!!lol!!!! saw 3.....35 foot putts with his ce firebird!!!!!!!! PUTTING!!!!!! bagger!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow........seemed genuine.....but such a bad liar!!!! :p :p :p :p :p :p




actually Estenfelder is just that good. he picked up his bag last week after not playing since last year and then played a few rounds before heading to BG. imo, if he played everyday i think he could give Climo trouble -- but with his family priorities that doesn't seem likely. if this were another era and disc golf paid serious cash it wouldn't surprise me a bit if Marc were one of the very, very best...

the guy is great in DDC too!

where may we view the scores?



SCORES!!!!! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5466)

Go Ben Go!!! Nice to see a Wisconsin rep on top there.

Right now scores don't mean a lot because we don't know who played which courses. Keriakis, for example, has an SSA 3 to 6 throws lower than White, depending on the weather.

Ratings on the other hand don't mean a thing because everyone is getting rated off all pools playing all courses.

Marshal Terry Miller checking in here:

Today I watched action in the A-Pool in the morning (Hobson) and then I saw most of the G-Pool's round at Miller park.

I saw an ace on hole 18 at Hobson and then a few minutes later watched a guy skip ace that same hole.

I saw some great action by the G-Pool at Miller also. No surprise to see Frazer and Garland up on top. Should be a great showdown for the Advanced Women.

Let's pray for good weather tomorrow so that everything doesn't take forever during the rounds, extra holes, ceremonies, etc.

Ter

Does anyone know if the intermediate player named Ben Askren. from Colombia, MO (University of Missouri) is the NCAA National Champ in wrestling at 174lbs?

Sorry, I am a huge wrestling fan, and I had to ask.

I bet that's true! He looks like a wrestler. He and about 3 or 4 other guys are traveling around on their spring break to tournaments. They had T-shirts made with all the courses they are playing. They played in the Alabama Amateur Open here last weekend. He's got an arm!!!

Don't forget to watch Karen J also in Advanced Women!!! She's awesome!!! Keep focused Karen!!!! We're rooting for you!!!! :cool:

Is this what he looks like?

http://mutigers.cstv.com/sports/m-wrestl/mtt/askren_ben00.html

Yep. That's him.

Does anyone know of there will be live scoring for the final nine?

If there is, it's not set up online yet. When an event plans to do it, there's a Live scoring link just above the scores even if it's not time to start yet. Nothing there so far.

any results from the 3rd round?

Rooster and ParRoll--

Did I meet you guys at the Microtel on Saturday night? (I met some guys there from Austin...I'm not sure.) I'm the one with the bum ankle...

Hope you guys tore it up! :)

Daniel

3rd round scores?

Yep. That's him.



Awesome - Apparently wrestlers like to play disc golf in their off time as we always saw a couple national champions playing in Stillwater, OK. Mr. Askren may know them :) (They were the reason he was growing his hair out)

Good luck to him, and watch out if his disc golf game resembles his wrestling abilities. It would be funky and spectacular.

I know Karen J was still in 3rd going into the final 9...(Jenny still in first going into the finals.)

Zach E got an ace at White today finishing there with a -6 and a -6 at Kereiakes....Marla L got 8th in Adv. and Aidan Sullivan was 11 strokes outta cash in AM.... but that's just my Rocket City Chain Gang info for ya!! :D

Rooster and ParRoll--

Did I meet you guys at the Microtel on Saturday night? (I met some guys there from Austin...I'm not sure.) I'm the one with the bum ankle...

Hope you guys tore it up! :)



Yeah, that was us. Sorry about your ankle.

Today was a much better day for us --- my brother shot the hot round at Hobson --- probably for the entire tournament (-8) today (after shooting a -1 at Kerieakies). He moved up from 236 position yesterday to cash today in 71st.

Wil "I got 'er done" Ennis (local BG guy) won MA1 and I've never seen a guy more excited or happy to have won a tournament.

+6 was the cash cutoff for MA1 (~100 players cashed). The leader before the final 9 was at -15.

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For you hords of Texans --- Marty was the top Texan (+2 for the tournament), Erron Salazar was +5, myself +8, Guy Boyan was +20 --- Albert from Corpus Christie cashed in 23rd in MA2. Not sure about the other couple of Texans.

Thats all I know.

Go Rooster. Did Guy burn the ankle? :D:D
Glad you guys had a good time. Lets go partner
Am World Doubles Wimberley, TX Be there.

Did Guy burn the ankle? :D:D



Nah...a guy that we met last night at the hotel tore his ankle up. Guy will not be able to use a bum ankle as an excuse :D :eek:

ParRoll here......no injuries......just glad I got my fingers down to one bleeding this week......ready for world dubs!.......DAD! Team Cooper not playing....meow....meow!!! I shot poo poo today ! 900 golf...barf...barf

Guy Boy :D

Hey guys just got home. I will try and get final scores up as soon as I can. I have to enter 550+ and it will take a bit.

Congrats to Will and to all the othe winners. Thanks all for coming. I know the weather made things get a little delayed today and I am sorry if I upset any of those guys trying to check out scores, it just makes it hard to do when players are looking over and standing around. Anyway time to get entering so I can get to bed tonight.

See you guys next year and don't forget look for my email link on our homepage in the next day or so and let me know all your thoughts good or bad so I can help improve.

Looks like we are in for some nasty weather so I hope my electric will stay on.

Till later

Congrats to Team Sun King member Ron Howell from Clearwater, FL for coming on strong, especially during the final 9, and finishing 3rd. Not bad for his 3rd Advanced event!

Larry,

Thanks so much for all the work you put into the tournament. I thought the event was a success and I was suprised at how smoothly everything went considering there were 550+ people.

Simon Carr
26496

looking to see how the oklahoma crew did ?

looking to see how the oklahoma crew did ?



Billy Lund was on the second card starting the final 9. Not sure how he finished (started -10, I believe before the Final 9)

i wouldent wanna be in BG right now, Tornado warning for their county
on our way back thru TN there were some powerlines down on a highway, had to take a little detour.

All I'm gonna say about the results is...LOL!

oh probally tommorow I'll get some pics from the advanced final online :D

looking to see how the oklahoma crew did ?



Billy Lund was on the second card starting the final 9. Not sure how he finished (started -10, I believe before the Final 9)




I had the oppurtunity to play with Billy on the second card during the final nine. We were tied at -10 going into the finals and we both got into some trouble on hole 5 on our approach shots and we both took a circle 5. we then both carded some birdies down the stretch and I was able to sneak up and take a tie for 3rd, but Billy hit an OB sand bunker on the last hole and lost a few strokes.

I had a great time playing the final 9 with those guys. Mike Robinson was putting for birdie after crushing one about 500 ft on the 560 ft hole. I was only able to get one out there about 450, but wasnt dissapointed by any means.

Overall, there was great weather, an awesome run tourney and some killer courses. It was awesome meeting and playing with all you guys, hope I get an oppurtunity again sometime.

Billy, when I see BOOBS I'll tell him you send hugs and kisses! :eek: HAHA

Best of luck in your future tourneys man, great to play with you.

Once again, congrats to Wil. Great person and a great player!
Im glad I played with him at Keriakes, I got to see all the local routes. Good luck if you play next weekend buddy, TEAR IT UP!

Are some of the SSA's above 54 for these courses? Why did the winner shoot in the 40's only once and still end up with a -40 total score? I'm cun-fused. :confused: :p

Did the intermediate and advanced play different courses or something, because the winner of intermediate finished -15 with a 4 round average of 986 (bagger to the nth degree) and the advanced winnner shot -40 with a 4 round average of 986.6 (are the round ratings wrong for intermediate or did they play different courses?)

Someone accidentally left the par for the finals at 54 instead of 27. Otherwise, all other rounds are shown as par 54.

Congrats to Michael Frame. Smokin' final round!
My buddy Mark Muren gave him a run for his money.
Excellent tournament Mark!
The battle for the 2006 PDGA Advanced Masters crown will be something to see. :)

Different Courses
Advanced - Hobson, White, Lovers & Kerikas?

Intermediate - Preston Miller, Franklin, Chalybeate & Franklin

Great weather with one 30min storm delay on Sunday Morning. Wind really picked up with some crazy gusts during the final 9. Players driving with lightning way off in the background.
Congrats to Drew Z for holding onto 2nd in Advanced behind Ennis.
And there were definitely many baggers in Intermediate.

MA1 and MM1 played one set of courses. All other divisions played another set of courses.

The -40 is not an accurate reflection of the total score, because 21 MA1 players played an additional 9 holes. Wil shot a 29, the scoring reads that as a -25 round (which it's obviously not), and added to his 4 full round total of -15, it looks like a -40. They'll all be adjusted after the TD report is completed and sent in.
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We were standing at the bottom of the hill on #6, and Mike Robinson's crush in the Final 9 was truly impressive --- the distance (about '500), the accuracy (the fairway was about 125' wide, with OB on both sides the entire length of the fairway), and the wind (tailwind of about 25-30 mph when they were throwing).

Zach Easterling had a crush in the fairway that was just a few feet shorter on the same hole.

Congrats on the come back Zach, way to represent Alabama with Arnette. -12 for the day at White and Lovers, incredible! Salazar, Mills, Conners and I brought up the back of the short bus this weekend :mad:. Instead of going out with a bang, went out with a bust. Thanks Larry for the great weekend. Billy's skip Ace was awsome considering we had just witnessed the guy ace the same hole right in front of us.

The weekend was fun. Holes #6 and #9 at White were a blast with that tail wind. It is fun to still hit the big five double zero with heavy fades on those holes! :eek:

I checked the SSA's on the four main courses for last years BG Open.

Hobson 49
Keriakes 50
Lovers 47
White 52

That is the order the A-Pool played. Of course we had 20mph winds for the 4th round at White, so SSA may increase. Good luck to Chuck and Larry figuring out the ratings for all those pools.

Congrats to Wil, I played with him at last years BGAm and in the fall at Nats. He deserved it, great shooting.

And to Bob from MI..... I am not changing my name to Parknfourputt despite what I did at hole #1 at Keriakes. Golfers nightmare is all I have to say.

Way to Go Karen Jaskolka. Took a 3 on the 560ft #9 at White, if anyone saw that she was pin high 30-35 left of the basket on her second shot and nailed the putt. The whole Gallery could proably be heard across the course. The womens final nine for 2nd came down to having Karen park her second shot and forced Nicole to hit a 25ft putt for the tie. Great shooting girl, I would like to hope my caddying helped out. :cool:

Thanks to the BGDGC for running another great event! My wife, son and I had a great time even though none of us cashed! :( Still good. We came home with some nice stuff, some treats from the flymart and lots of good memories. :D

Thanks for an easy check in, prompt tee offs and a great party.

It was great to see all those players I'll only see about once a year, Mike Frame, Mark Muren, didn't play with y'all this time but good shooting! Had fun playing with Steve Utley, Roy Vuichard, Mike Lang, Al Babbe, Jim Bassett, Mike Smith, Mike Merry, Dana Lanahan (great finish), Chris Kinsella and all those who's names I can't remember

Wish I could change my survey answer to read cap the field next year so there's no chance of people being moved to other courses AFTER they've paid and arrived. Thanks for keeping the MM1s on the advanced courses.

Hope to see y'all again next year! Russ3523 :cool:

What happened to Mills?!? :o

What happened to Mills?!? :o



Looks like he threw 550' more often than planned. :)

What happened to Mills?!? :o



I can think of a handful of people that went home completely P.O.ed after the 4th round. Sometimes it seems the best way to handle a great finish at a big tournament is to never come back again. Some of us were able to silence the calls of sandbagger. :p

What happened to Mills?!? :o


I heard he kept tripping over his lip every time he went to throw :D

Here are the pics I took, most are of the advanced final 9 (leader group)

http://stickitdg.com/gallery/bg06


To see a slideshow of those pics Click Here (http://stickitdg.com/gallery/slideshow.php?set_albumName=bg06)

enjoi

I don't know what happened to all of the big arms from MI... but it was great to see Jon Dobberstein and Mark Lawrence both finish well, JUST missing the final nine for both of those guys! Neither guy talks alot, and neither is hyped as much locally as an amazing player, both are just very good and deserved their solid finishes :)

Thanks to EVERYBODY that was there for an excellent time, the doubles round put on by Sun King was a great time, very relaxed and fun... the players party was awesome... in general great time, lots of disc golf, poker, and partying it up in the Best Western pool area!

Thanks everyone who helped put on this tournament. It was most defentily the best weekend I have had so for with a tournament. Even though my scores aren't like I wanted well my round at White I'm happy with but thats really it. I had a lot of fun got to meet a lot of cool people. At least the rain held off on Sunday it was looking pretty bad there the first round with the winds picking up the 2nd but thats still no excuse for shooting a 3 up at lovers. I wanted to say congrats to Nikko also for 3rd way to go man.

I woke up this morning and thought the weekend was just one bad dream and honestly was convinced that I never was in bowling green... I think I will stick with that... Probably the worst weekend of golf I have ever played in my life, made me feel like I had just picked up a frisbee for the first time.

The event was run very well again, awesome to see the large numbers, had fun with those I got to play with, fly mart was great, thanks to the TD's and helpers, Best Western is the worst Hotel I have ever had the displeasure to stay at, Little Squirrels that follow you around and crawl on and nip at your shoe rock, weather was great all weekend, great players packs, thanks to the sponsors of the event, and I am glad that I came home and found my game that I had forgot for the weekend.

What happened to Mills?!? :o



All I have to say is I had A LOT on my mind all weekend other then golf that made it difficult to keep my mind on the task at hand.

That on top of the fact that I missed 10 10 footers and 20 15-20 footers in 4 rounds might have something to do with it.

None the less it was fun cuz I finally got to meet Billy "The Gun" Lund and some other Tulsa people I will be hanging with at worlds. Thanks again Larry for running a AMAZING tournament and hey who knows if I havent casshed big by this time next year maybe ill pull a Mike Robinson and come down and play again next year (oh wait im sorry Robinson has ALREADY cashed big in Open) :eek: :eek: :eek:

Millz,
You should have came up to me, I didn even know you were there.
Were you around on friday when Billy was throwing the Odysseys and spirits at lovers?

Come to St Louis on the 20 and 21st, its only 1/5th putting1/ 1/5th approaching, 2/5ths driving and a 1/5th in your head, sounds like a good fit for your game :D:DI now it is for mine :cool:

I was way to busy looking for the 16 different Michigan players in the final 9, or all the Am Worlds contenders to be worried about sandbaggers. :D

Much respect for the TDs at Bowling Green. Nice Work. Everything was pretty decent, weather wise till about 9 pm Sunday when all the sirens started going off. There were Tornado sigtings and touchdowns all over and I was pretty sure Id be dying in the shitter at Motel 6.

The most impressive player in BG wasnt the "baggers", it was Nikko. When he gets it all together, all the time he will be a force in this game. Nice Job Nikko.

Thanks to everyone who stopped by or had good vibes to pass along for Iron Lion. Your support and feedback was greatly appreciated.

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None the less it was fun cuz I finally got to meet Billy "The Gun" Lund and some other Tulsa people I will be hanging with at worlds.



I thought it was Billy"Bubble Gum" Lund. The fact that he accessorized his Pink Revo with a Pink Nalgene bottle is hilarious.

It was a tough decision not to stay and hang with you, MC, and Billy for Sunday night. But the wife would have killed me, and I had someone riding with me. I am definately going to take up Conners on taking me to that "show" while we are in Tulsa. It might take me longer to remove them with my teeth, and I am willing to prove it. ;)

Billy was begging me to give him my pink microfiber towel that I got in my player's package!

Sunday night was fun...you missed out!

What a sweet tournament...thanks to all the staff for keepin it smooooth.....it was good getting to meet all the discussion board JUNKIES!!! It was good to finally meet my TWISTED teammate Erron Salazar..you better get ready for World Dubs...hey parkntwoputt the pink Nalgene bottle is SWEET!! Dont hate... :cool: and Mills good shootin at dubs friday..oh wait a minute you didnt SHOW!!! ..... :D...j/k it was fun hangin out this weekend, will be lookin forward to havin all ya'll come to TULSA for worlds.....

**** Mills, You skipped doubles? Before or After you heard what was needed to win? ;)

Hey Dave...those Spirits are sweet!!! Cant wait til the odyssey is finalized...those things GLIDE forever....

Hey Chase good shootin this weekend!!

Congrats to the finalists! I had a sweet weekend, even tho I didn't play so well. Every round was enjoyable and I was always grouped up with some chill players. James Sherwin, Billy, Dustin Fee (and Dustin's caddie), Jeremy Bogan and Zach Lambrecht are all classy dudes and great players, I hope to shoot with all of you again sometime. Good times. Now I just need to learn how to drive...

B-Ho;

How can the guy with the Flamin' Gator hate on the Pink Nalgene?

Real men throw <font color="pink"> PINK </font>.

See ya in Tulsa!

Hey Chase good shootin this weekend!!



Thanks Billy. I wish I had done better in the morning rounds, then maybe I could have carded with You. There will be more chances though Im sure. Good Shoootin to you as well.

The most fun I had was at White on Sunday. Playing, and watching people shoot into the devlish wind on Hole #5 was great! I took my 4, and graciously walked away....

The most fun I had was at White on Sunday. Playing, and watching people shoot into the devlish wind on Hole #5 was great! I took my 4, and graciously walked away....



I tried to play safe with a firebird on that hole off the teebox, but I let go with hyzer and went OB.

But Karen J. in the Womens final took a 4 on hole #5 at White, and a 3 on hole #9. How does that make you feel? She beat me on both those holes. :(

The most fun I had was at White on Sunday. Playing, and watching people shoot into the devlish wind on Hole #5 was great! I took my 4, and graciously walked away....



I tried to play safe with a firebird on that hole off the teebox, but I let go with hyzer and went OB.

But Karen J. in the Womens final took a 4 on hole #5 at White, and a 3 on hole #9. How does that make you feel? She beat me on both those holes. :(


I tied her on those holes, but you should feel like less of a man.

Bowling Green was a great time! I played very "par" all weekend and still got 12th in Intermediate. Looks like I need to move up. Thanks to the Iowa guys for the great weekend.....Dustin Fee (28th), Steve Whitson (51st), Chris Anspach (???), and Aaron Lindsley (caddie).

Billy and Melissa..... It was nice beating you in HORSE on Thursday night at the 6. ;)

Yeah, it was nice meeting you guys. HORSE was one of the highlights of the trip for me. Heck, if I would have putted that good during the tourney, I could've placed!

And BTW, only two guys can say they beat me!

The most fun I had was at White on Sunday. Playing, and watching people shoot into the devlish wind on Hole #5 was great! I took my 4, and graciously walked away....



I tried to play safe with a firebird on that hole off the teebox, but I let go with hyzer and went OB.

But Karen J. in the Womens final took a 4 on hole #5 at White, and a 3 on hole #9. How does that make you feel? She beat me on both those holes. :(


I tied her on those holes, but you should feel like less of a man.



I was her caddy during the final nine so I helped her strategize those holes....so no I don't. My OB and chained out putt are just happenings of the game.

I was her caddy during the final nine so I helped her strategize those holes....so no I don't. My OB and chained out putt are just happenings of the game.



Maybe you should quit playing and be a full time caddie.. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Maybe you should quit playing and be a full time caddie.. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



Yeah, being the caddy to one of the best Adv Women's players in the world is not such a bad gig. I will probably caddy for her during the finals at Worlds too. :D

Had a great time!

Mad props to Theresa Smith who volunteered to interpret (sign language) for us deaf competitors!

Keep up the good work Larry!

Congrats to Dain Sivak for being the top deaf disc golfer with 58th.

2004 had 2 deaf disc golfers
2005 had 4 deaf disc golfers
2006 had 8 deaf disc golfers
here's to 16 or more deaf disc golfers in 2007!

We're fortunate to always have numerous deaf disc golfers at our tournaments here in Texas.

The Texas School for the Deaf here in Austin has their own Disc Golf course on campus, and I believe that Disc Golf is a part of their PE curriculum. So many of their alumni become active tournament players around the state.

I'm not sure if being deaf is a benefit because you are less distracted by noise around you, or if it's more of a distraction if you have "loud voices" in your head. :)

I'm looking at Lover's Lane ratings, and man, they have gotta be off! I shot terrible and was rated 990! Like, if I had displayed those skills on any other course, it'd be about a 930-940. And I saw someone in my group shoot a supposed "1027" round at 8 under. 1000 maybe, but those ratings are wayyyy high. Anyone else think so? I would say SSA on that course should be like 44.

All the ratings are way off right now, they are shown as if all 555 players played the same course at the same time, so all the official ratings will change quite a bit. It was good playing with you at lover's Daemon, im sure we'll see ya at some of the other big tourneys around the midwest. Take it easy.

Ah yes, that makes sense. Dustin, I definately had a good time playing with you. And hopefully we will be seeing each other on the lead card for some of the big events!

, or if it's more of a distraction if you have "loud voices" in your head. :)



I have occassional bouts with Tinnitus and those sounds in your head are tormenting. I rarely hear them during the day because the exterior noise masks them, but at night while trying to sleep it's enough to drive you mad.

Thread drift off.

I'm looking at Lover's Lane ratings, and man, they have gotta be off! I shot terrible and was rated 990! Like, if I had displayed those skills on any other course, it'd be about a 930-940. And I saw someone in my group shoot a supposed "1027" round at 8 under. 1000 maybe, but those ratings are wayyyy high. Anyone else think so? I would say SSA on that course should be like 44.



Check the ratings threads about Bowling Green.

SSA at Lovers is actually 47
Hobson 49
Keriakes Long 50
White 52 (53 if you played it the 4th round)

Yo Kris, it was great meeting you and playing our first round together...good luck with the rest of your season.

These little guys were adorable:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/squirrellbag.jpg

Ticklish??

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/squirelltickling.jpg

Billys Tulsa hat!!!

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/BillySquirellonhat.jpg

had an idiot not pay attention and step on one in my group. not sure if he was okay or not. just ran and hid while we finished the hole

: ) :

Wow what a great tournament!!! Played like ***** but i had a blast....
559 people and everyone i met was super cool, Im glad i got to meet my TWISTED teammates (Billy, Conners, Mellisa,& Devan) Looking forward to seeing all you guys in Wimberly next weekend...

Erron, it was GREAT meeting you too. Don't forget about Justin...he's TWISTED too! Not to mention the 14 year old placed 17th!!!

had an idiot not pay attention and step on one in my group. not sure if he was okay or not. just ran and hid while we finished the hole

: ) :



What a jerk.

Erron, it was GREAT meeting you too. Don't forget about Justin...he's TWISTED too! Not to mention the 14 year old placed 17th!!!


I wasn't sure if he was on the team yet, He definitely played solid all weekend!!!

Thanks Mike, my wife loved these pictures. I told her about them once I got home. She made me save them to the PC.

:cool: .....KEEP IT TWISTED...... :cool:

Thanks Mike, my wife loved these pictures. I told her about them once I got home. She made me save them to the PC.



No prob Kris, I wish I had taken more pics before some jerk off stepped on one of them. :mad:

Justin Bougher was real fun to play with at White. He had some bad luck at first but kept a great mindset and finished strong. I would've blown up early if I was him. He's got a great head game, especially for a freshman in HS!! Definately going to be a sweet player in a couple of years.

Sorry for the delay. We have been overwhelmed with the awesome response from the masses that getting the footage ready took an extra day. Hope you enjoy, watch for more music videos showing alot more of the action!!!
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Hey larry just wanted to say that the am tourney was awesome and the courses where really nice to play. i had a blast and i wanted to say that you and all your helpers did a fantastic job keep up the good work

i am looking forward to next year

chrisopher banks
# 28704
davenport iowa

This was a great tourney, once again. It was my fourth year playing in it and I already can't wait until 2007. It was really good to play the same courses for the last four years being an Advanced Masters player. I just couldn't hang with the really talented players mentally in the last round. I would hate to see that division moved to other courses next year if the number of Ams get too big. Just my two cents worth. Thanks Larry and Ernie and all the rest behind the scenes.

I was just wondering if the player ratings are going to be updated. I know they are way off right now in the Intermediate Division and I was just curious to see how I actually shot. I also don't want to have an inflated rating......

Even more dumb, you pet them and the mom will not have anything to do w/them anymore. Sad but probably will end up dead.

Even more dumb, you pet them and the mom will not have anything to do w/them anymore. Sad but probably will end up dead.



So the SMARTer thing to do is step one them right so there not cast aside :p I think your talking about birds, These little cute squirles would come up to anyone and climb up your leg, i doubt the mothers would abandon them for smelling like a disc golfer... :D

Plus they werent like BABY BABY squirrels. These little guys could take care of themselves.....They were running around and had no problem climbing on my shoe while I was trying to throw my drive on hole 4!!! So in all reality they were touching US!!! **** it now my mommy wont take care of ME anymore :mad::mad::mad:

**** it now my mommy wont take care of ME anymore :mad::mad::mad:



Is that why you did so poorly? Your mommy was not there to hold your hand? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif LOL j/k

Does anyone know if the final 9 is going to be rated also?

I don't know if he's playing it but Justin Bougher should be the favorite for the under 16 title.
Final 9's dont get rated

If i was him i would play JR. 16under..But he will probably play Advanced Just because he lives in Tulsa

Done.... Over...... 2007