God, I am ready to pack my bags tonight! I just got some new CE firebird FX`s out of the stash for these monster winds everyone keeps talking about. Just 10,000 more putts and I'll be practically on my way!

Yes I did get a little off topic ;) Should have been posted under the "How do you want the future of competitive disc golf to look like" or something to that nature :)

Come to me Bowling Green. I can't wait to tear you up!!

I'll be there!! :cool:

Right on Parkntwoputt, I've been playing Hobson for several years and hole #9 I throw a Firebird. The rest are Roc's or an Aviar.

Jeff Vandemark-973

Erron Salazar-973

Overrated? Predictions?

Erron is not overated, not even close! He has only been throwing for like 18 months. He's my pick for taking BG! He probably would go pro if Am worlds wasnt so close to us this year!!!

We will just have to see what happens.

Disc Golf is a game you cannot predict.

Wouldn't it be nice if you could predict the outcome of an event soley based on the a persons player rating going into the tournament?

I heard Tiger Woods is a great golfer and I would put money on him winning every event but unfortunately that doesnt always happen ;)

What is going to happen when 600+ golfers show up. Unbelievable! 408 Already.

Am World's Bag Tags will be availble at Bowling Green. Mike Conners will have them with him. They are $25 each and all of the money goes to the players party and raffel prizes for those that bought tags. If you already have a tag, thank you for your support, if you don't have one, get one. ;)

http://www.2006amworlds.org/bagtagsm.jpg

60/203 29.5%

Looks like I slipped a little bit. Had been at 28% for a long time.

Jeff Vandemark-973

Erron Salazar-973

Overrated? Predictions?



I don't know about these guys, look at the very top of the pre-reg list, you'll find a 968 rated player, that took cash at Cross Canyon last month. How does that fly? I guess I'll tell Chad Hein he can play too.

I would question this. I believe if you accept cash and are above 950 rating you cannot play AMs. Just verified about the Canyon. The only real question is that a mistake on the canyon tourny results where this person DID NOT accept cash?

I really can't see someone going pro for $17. It's gotta be a mistake.

The ratings break is above 954 not above 950, but 968 is certainly too high if the player accepted cash and is trying to play Advanced.

my goal is to get a 3 on hole 2 at Hobson once again this year. Time for the monster air s-curve sidearm. That may have very well been my best drive in 11 years of playing.

Didnt Estenfelder win 2005? he's registered for ADV again.

Getting a three on #2 at Hobson is a birdie in the best weather conditions.

Taking a 4 you will not lose strokes to the field. Last year in my group I took a great 3 (second shot under the basket) but everyone else went 4,5,6!

At Nat's Howler this past fall I took a gimmie four because my long putt for three hit basket low. But I did not lose a stroke for taking the 4.

I would like to break par at Hobson. I have played it three times, twice in comp once in practice, each time shooting a 54!

But last year, 54 was a hot round at Hobson, driving rain, howling wind and just above freezing rain. Let's hope that Larry applied for good weather.

Someone said there is a place that shows who is registered and how many people in each division. Anybody, know where this is I've look pdga and bowling green's site.

Someone said there is a place that shows who is registered and how many people in each division. Anybody, know where this is I've look pdga and bowling green's site.



Try this
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5466

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5466

u might need to refresh...

So I guess the "awesome" player packs are gone huh.

Well looks like i'm sitting 72 out of 203 in advanced... right on the bubble I dont expect it to last pool B for me I bet

And definately whats up with last years winner playing again? haha that guy will never move up huh?

The 968 rated player you are talking about is Tod Abrahamson, he is an outstanding player, but his "cash" at the canyon was actually a disc. I know this only becasue I see him seldomly and compete against him occasionally and I asked him about it. He said he would have most certainly not accepted the prize if it was cash because he plans on attending worlds this year in Tulsa. Saying all this, yes he is eligable because it was not cash and the TD for the canyon listed it as cash instaed of cash value instead of disc.

So, he played in a sanctioned event as a Pro, and placed in the cash? Rather than accepting the cash, he accepted an alternative prize, which has a cash value equivalent to the amount of cash that he "refused"?

Sounds like he's now a Pro to me.

If he wanted to retain his "Am" status, he should have refused the disc too. I hope he didn't get a non-refundable airline ticket to BG.

Ams entering Open should be paying the discounted Trophy Only entry fee, presuming the TD is on top of that, unless the Am is planning to turn pro if he cashes. It makes little sense to enter at the full entry fee if he's not going to turn pro if he cashes because he's not allowed to receive any prizes other than Ace fund or CTPs (and the TD should know better not to award prizes in lieu of cash to Ams in the Open division who plan to remain Ams).

No, Chuck, that rule was deleted in the new rules and replaced with a standards document. The new standards document makes a player a pro only if they take "prize money" in a pro division or register as a pro. The new standard omitted the former rule language about taking prizes in lieu of cash having the same effect.

That player is fully eligible to play amateur if he took that disc in a 2006 tournament.

I started a thread in the rules section if anyone wants to continue this discussion.

Well, if that's the case, it's time to shout it from the rooftops and get more of those top Ams entering Pro and accepting merch in lieu of cash if that's allowed. We had several Ams in the late 90s in Minnesota who we encouraged to play pro for merch prizes (if they cashed) before the rule was changed. Sorry I missed that little tweak in the 2006 documents as a member of the Competition Committee.

Heck if that is the case now, I would have played the pro tournament in Atlanta instead of the Am. I just hated not getting anything for playing well. If I knew I could have taken a prize instead of nothing....well.

If this indeed another one of the brilliant rules changes by our Rules Committee, let me be the first to tell you what a stupid and horrible change it is. Thanks for nothing.

So I guess the "awesome" player packs are gone huh.



You could always play the new A tier - 2006 St. Louis Open, the May 20 and 21. We'll have a player pack valued more than your entry with an Innova disc, Gateway disc and Discraft along with a shirt minium for all AM divisions. And we also have a low entry like Bowling Green. Free beer by New Belgium Saturday and free dinner by our own Gary Suarez who is on of St. Louis' top chefs.

The'll be an ad in your player's pack with detail on the event.

The Bowling Green AMs is a great tournament, the'll be over a dozen guys from St. Louis.

So, if you don't get your fill of golf early April, come out mid May to St. Louis with 4 newly renovated awesome courses with concrete tees.

I play AM Master and I am turning pro after worlds, and this is very weak to me. You should NOT be able to accept cash or merchandise if AM in a pro tourny. I also played pro at the canyon knowing perfectly well if I cashed I would have to turn it down. Very weak arguement in my opinion.

Also what keeps an AM player from winning pro tournys and just taking merchandise and then playing AMs. Nothing according to our Lawyers!

Very sore spot in my derier!

As Bruce indicated, I believe it was an oversight in the revised 2006 Tour docs that he caught and hadn't been posted before. It will be checked next week to get the scoop. I'm pretty sure a change to allow Ams to accept merch if cashing in Open wasn't discussed on the Competition Committee. But it doesn't appear to prevent it in the 2006 docs as Bruce posted.

Also what keeps an AM player from winning pro tournys and just taking merchandise and then playing AMs. Nothing according to our Lawyers!

Very sore spot in my derier!



You would be talking about an quaranteed win in Adv versus a cashing spot in Open, or easily winning Open ?

Why would a player interested in the amount of prizes he can win play in the pro field ? The winner of the larger adv division should get more value more often winning the adv div than cashing in the open field.

Good deal, please let the AM golfer world know the outcome.

Why the #[email protected]# would you still play AM if your good enough to cash in pro? I'm a believer in playing up to help your game. Last year I stayed down in MA2 because I thought I wasn't good enough. Turns out I was right, I continually get beat on by the MA1 players. BUT...my game gets better every time I play MA1. If I knew I could cash in Open I wouldn't be playing Am. I guess some of us just have different morals.

Thanks for letting me rant...

Check out the Ams playing pro thread that Bruce started.

I think that one motivating factor is this:
Let's say you're a 956-970 rated player. You probably wouldn't be good enough to cash at a NT consistently, but definately good enough to win at local events. Under this system, a player can play open, win the event, and walk away with a cash equivalent (discs) in lieu of the winnings (cash) he can't take that would eliminate his am status. So he wins even more plastic than the 953 player that won in advanced, and stockpiles plastic, and before long, we have these guys all running the am-scams for profit. It's like saying, "Oh, you want to decline the cash, so you can still be an am? OK, here's a winning lottery ticket, just go cash it in."

And the cash can't be redistributed to the REAL pros that cashed, since the BAGGER took a cash equivalent. Who else wins? The TD---profiting from the am divisions, and now, from the ams that cash in the open divisions.

My wager is that a lid gets put on this-------real soon.

The reason people do that is the same reason some people stay in intermediate until they win multiple tournaments before theyre sand baggin' behinds decide to step it up and play with better players. I started playing about a year and a half ago and I played intermediate in 4 tournaments in which I never got first, then I decided to move up to advanced and then won my first advanced tourney so it worked out well for me. Back to Bowling Green............................................. .

Im stoked about doubles at Lovers Lane, Im not exactly sure how it is going to work out with a million people there, but Im sure Mike Barnett (sun king discs) will explain it to me on the long drive up from FL since he is runnin' doubles.

I agree w/you. BTW there has been another thread opened to discuss this throughly.

http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Rules&Number=523503&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=all

I will discuss this on the above thread but leave the Blowing Green thread to the wind. Blow wind blow.

See you all in less than 2 weeks.

Kelsey and I are getting game ready. She threw a round at Stoney in the wind on Saturday that would rate at 905. If she thinks to pack that game, she'll give Nicole a run for first.

I'm looking forward to this tournament. This will be my first tourney playing Advanced. Can't wait to meet Kelsey.

Wow, Nicole is not even the top rated woman. Jenny Garland has her by a few points. There are a lot of good advanced women playing this year.

Good luck to all. See you in ten or eleven days.

Hello All!

Just dropping a line regarding the doubles event on Friday at Lovers Lane:

Lovers Lane Doubles
~Part of The 2006 Bowling Green Amateur Championships~

When:
March 31st, 2006
Where:
1 Round of 18 Holes, Best Shot/Bring Your Own Partner, Doubles at Lovers Lane Park, Bowling Green, KY
Times:
Choose Your Tee Time:
1st Tee Time: 12 Noon, 2nd Tee Time: 3:00pm
Entry Fees: $30 Per Team, $15 Per Individual (If you don't have a partner, we will help find you one)

Players Package Limited To The First 100 Players!
Choose from CryZtal Buzzz, Elite Z Flash, Clear "Ice" Elite Z Wasp or Semi-Opaque White Elitze Z Wildcat. All discs are "ghost"-stamped with the artwork pictured at the online regsitration page!

Bonus: There Will Be (1) CA$H CTP & (4) Merchandise CTP's Up For Grabs For Both Tee Times!

Contact: Mike Barnett, [email protected], 352.212.3845

To register a TEAM click HERE (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=9100-LLDET&Category_Code=9100)

To register an INDIVIDUAL click HERE (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=9100-LLDEI&Category_Code=9100)

Sounds awesome Mike, I like the idea of the bring your own partner. Joe Viger just called me and we are teaming up. How much you think the cash CTP is gonna be worth?

Mike B-Is this going to be cash or plastic payout? I assume there are no pros, so are there even divisions?

Long range Accuweather forecast is for 60s and showers Saturday, 60s and cloudy Sunday.

$1 from each entry goes into the Cash CTP, so the more, the merrier. As for the payout, it will be split - prizes will be half in cash and half in a Sun King Discs voucher so that players can choose their own merchandise.

Thanks!
Mike

Well, at the very least, "60s and some rain" would be a vast improvement from the "40s and some rain" we had for the first round last year.

Long range Accuweather forecast is for 60s and showers Saturday, 60s and cloudy Sunday.



I am glad the shell of my jacket is teflon coated.

I know that I will be dry. :D

Just wondering if there is a cap on the number of Men's Advanced, Women's Advanced, and Advanced Masters players?

According to the BG Web site, these three divisions are playing the traditional four courses, with all other divisions playing the alternate courses.

If that is so, then 4 courses x 18 holes = 72 holes.
4 players per card x 72 holes = 288 players
5 players per card x 72 holes = 360 players.

So, it seems that 360 would be the cap on MA1, FA1, and MM1 total players, right?

If so, then there are already 267 total players registered in these three divisions (and I'm betting Larry has more since this number hasn't been updated in several days).

Sound like you better get registered if you haven't already.

Are these going to be two seperate events?
Or are you taking scores from the 12:00 tee time and 3:00 tee times and determining the winner that way?
Can a person play both tee times?
I'm playing the 12:00 one for sure, but would like to play the 3:00 tee time with a different person.
Thanks,
Jon

Rooster-They will most likely have different tee times for different pools, there are no caps for any division at BG.

Lefty-Lovers is only 18, I'm sure a doubles round wouldn't take more than 3 hours. So there would be 2 different competitions, and 2 sets of CTPs. You could play twice.

Rooster-They will most likely have different tee times for different pools, there are no caps for any division at BG.



I'm not so sure that's true. Larry stated that the reason to go to the additional 4 courses was to eliminate having three flights like we did last year (three tee times per course).

As it is, if there are 360 players, two complete flights will be filled for each course (Pools A&B would occupy two courses for two rounds each day, while Pools C&D would occupy the other two courses for two rounds each day).

To add more than 360 players to the existing 4 courses would require adding an additional flight, bringing us back to the three flights that Larry said they were trying to eleminate this year.

I am just wondering where you got your information from?

Personally if I was Larry, I would cap advanced at 270 and leave the other course to allow for the Advanced Master and Women to play.

But I am not Larry. We might have Advanced players on all four courses at once.

I didn't realize Larry was trying to eliminate the different flights. I have no solid information, but BG has never been capped, and I was suspecting that it never would be. I sure hope there's no cap, I was planning on competing with 300 AM1's. If there was a cap, I would think that the tourny flyer would state this. I feel sorry for Larry when I say this (knowing the all-nighters some TDs pulled last year) but, if the flyer doesn't define a cap #, there will probably be a need to do different flights, because 550+ golfers are probably planning this trip. I don't really care tho, all I know for sure is that I'm registered.

edit: Actually I know something else for sure- The supercolor design from Dcraft for this tourny looks sweeet.

I think that the reason Larry added the four courses was for the lower divisions. (Intermediate, jrs) I think that advanced will be divided into 4 pools. If there are 250 players in advanced, you'd need four pools with players on every course to accommodate all the players, unless you like playing in 7somes.

250 players divided by 72 holes (four courses) = 3.47

That leaves room for spacing out foursomes, at the 250 mark. Once (if) we pass 288 players, there will be 5somes, but not any 6 somes till we pass 360 players in the division, and I don't think that'll happen. We're only at 417 total, now. And that's all divisions.

I bet there will be 4 pools, probably mostly around 60 people in each. (for advanced)

Doubles at Lovers? I'm there!

Yo Lund, you down?

There is a capacity of 720 golfers.

That is putting 5-somes on everyhole.

This has to be split evenly between all Advanced and all Am's. Leaving a capacity of 360 total advanced players. Or else Adv Masters and Adv Women will have to play on the JV courses too. That is if there is enough room, the division splits may not be enough.

I will not play in a tournament that has 6-somes. That is ridiculous. I am sure Larry has taken care of it and has everything planned out, he is a good TD.

Personally, I would cap all events at 4/hole. If players cannot manage to preregister then why should they play? Plan ahead and get in, procrastinate and wait until next year. (this last paragraph is not directed in anyway towards the BG Am tournament, the Bowling Green Disc Golf Club, or any official or volunteer of the BG Am Championship).

I think I have the winning team for the doubles. Do you guys want to place any bets on who my team mate is??? Ill give you a clue. He is one of only a handfull of people at DG who will be able to throw farther then I do :eek: :eek: :eek:

Are Grandmasters and Seniors on the Advanced courses? Anyone know?

I think I have the winning team for the doubles. Do you guys want to place any bets on who my team mate is??? Ill give you a clue. He is one of only a handfull of people at DG who will be able to throw farther then I do :eek: :eek: :eek:



I will be at Hobson and Keriakes getting practice where it counts. :p

I think I have the winning team for the doubles. Do you guys want to place any bets on who my team mate is??? Ill give you a clue. He is one of only a handfull of people at DG who will be able to throw farther then I do :eek: :eek: :eek:



Mills, we need to meet up at Lovers for the dubs round...me and my partner should be ready for the 3pm tee time :cool:

I think I have the winning team for the doubles. Do you guys want to place any bets on who my team mate is??? Ill give you a clue. He is one of only a handfull of people at DG who will be able to throw farther then I do :eek: :eek: :eek:




Mike Robinson? :D

I didn't think you'd be there Mills, saw you played open pretty well in Phoenix, and didn't see your name on the pre-reg list. Or are you just coming down to heckle like Chad Hein is? :D

He is one of only a handfull of people at DG who will be able to throw farther then I do :eek: :eek: :eek:



Yeah but you still cannot play the wooded holes. :D

Oh SMACK!

He is one of only a handfull of people at DG who will be able to throw farther then I do :eek: :eek: :eek:



Yeah but you still cannot play the wooded holes. :D

Oh SMACK!


You only need about 375 of D, and be able to hit a put anyone can shoot an easy 40 with a partner.
I also don't think a 40 will win either time.

You only need about 375 of D, and be able to hit a put anyone can shoot an easy 40 with a partner.
I also don't think a 40 will win either time.



A good advanced pair at Lovers with winds normal for Lovers Park could easily shoot 17 down. There is only one hole that is unreachable.

I think I have the winning team for the doubles. Do you guys want to place any bets on who my team mate is??? Ill give you a clue. He is one of only a handfull of people at DG who will be able to throw farther then I do :eek: :eek: :eek:




Mike Robinson? :D

I didn't think you'd be there Mills, saw you played open pretty well in Phoenix, and didn't see your name on the pre-reg list. Or are you just coming down to heckle like Chad Hein is? :D



Ill be there and will be playing!!! Im playing some Open this year to get expierience and try to qualify for USDGC and 2007 Pro Worlds. I got my eye on a Major this year and an ROY nomination next year :D:D:D

Maybe I can BRIDE Hein with plastic and beer to caddy for me :eek: :eek: :eek:

He is one of only a handfull of people at DG who will be able to throw farther then I do :eek: :eek: :eek:



Yeah but you still cannot play the wooded holes. :D

Oh SMACK!



I hate to break it to you but Ive learned how to play those since last year ;) ;) ;)

Have fun in the B Pool though :eek: :eek: :eek:

OH SNAP!!!

You and I know a few of the same people, look me up if possible in BG. PandP watch the weather. It is very key to your mind frame. All is good.

For all those concerned I have just updated the list and we just about have as many pre-registered as we had for the tourney last year. We expected over 500 and figured with the mentioning of the first 400 getting a great players package the majority would pre-register. I sure hope most due to help with scheduling and decisions to be made.

As far as cap we don't plan to have one. We do have some things that can be done if they have to. One would be to move the Adv Masters and Adv women to the other courses to allow for more Adv. Men

As for these being JV courses they are not. They are different than the others but by no means crappy courses or I wouldn't play them at all. They are intended for your lower skill levels. That being said I don't mean to say the Adv Masters are a lower skill level just a smaller # and would be easier to move. (Not final yet)

As for player per group those that have played here before can tell you most of our courses play pretty quick even with 5'somes so that is what we plan for.

The current break down looks like this.
Adv - A, B , C (39 left to fill it)
Adv Masters and Adv Women - D ( 26 to fill it)
All others - E, F ( 20 left to fill it )

I have already made plans for a 7th pool to be used however it needs to be done. I know we have taken on a big challenge this year by not capping but figure the players would want that. We will see how it goes and may go to a cap or even pre-register only next year. Anyway the time is counting down I hope you all the safest of travels here and back.

Are there only 400 players packs or did you get as many as you had players last year and just say that so that everyone would pre reg and not just show and reg the day before??? A PMed responce would be cool and I would keep the info to myself. I just wondered since I was one of the 55 to register after 400 because of some finacial problems as of late and I was wondering what to expect and wish I had the money earlier cuz your players packs are always awesome.

Thanks again for busting your butt and running such a great event year after year.

Thanks for the update, Larry.

Myself (Chris Wojciechowski) and Brian Shoemaker are preregged for the Doubles round, we'll be there for 3:00PM!

Should be a good time, can't wait!

I think I have the winning team for the doubles. Do you guys want to place any bets on who my team mate is??? Ill give you a clue. He is one of only a handfull of people at DG who will be able to throw farther then I do :eek: :eek: :eek:



I'm guessing Jamie Mosier :eek:

I think I have the winning team for the doubles. Do you guys want to place any bets on who my team mate is??? Ill give you a clue. He is one of only a handfull of people at DG who will be able to throw farther then I do :eek: :eek: :eek:



I'm guessing Jamie Mosier :eek:



And you are the MI state Coordinator. From that statement you obviously know nothing about MI disc golfs inner workings :eek: :eek: :eek:

I hate to break it to you but Ive learned how to play those since last year ;) ;) ;)

Have fun in the B Pool though :eek: :eek: :eek:

OH SNAP!!!



Yeah, Jon and I will be bringing it from the B-Pool. No worries here. I just feel bad for your car mates to have to put up with your sobbing all the way back to Michigan because you got beat by people in the B-Pool. :eek:

At least we'll get to play head to head in the finals.

PS. Did you get my email about worlds?

Are there only 400 players packs or did you get as many as you had players last year and just say that so that everyone would pre reg and not just show and reg the day before??? A PMed responce would be cool and I would keep the info to myself. I just wondered since I was one of the 55 to register after 400 because of some finacial problems as of late and I was wondering what to expect and wish I had the money earlier cuz your players packs are always awesome.

Thanks again for busting your butt and running such a great event year after year.



So Larry, what's the answer?

Anyone in BG know this Golfer?
Phillip Leedy
1629 Curd Dr
Bowling Green, KY 42101-3505
(270) 842-8483
I'm trying to get ahold of him and the phone # is out of service. If anyone there is close to this address, I'll give ya $10 to go by and get his contact info so I can reach him. Tell him Cam Schwartz/Joe Rotan from OK are trying to contact him. Send me a pm if anyone can go by there, and I'll give you my contact info. I would appreciate this GREATLY. Thanks,
Cam

There are only 400 of the sweet packages. Others will get a mini and a disc.

Glad we got in early again, all three of us :D

Lookin' forward to it. russ3523 :cool:

As for these (MA2 courses) being JV courses they are not. They are different than the others but by no means crappy courses or I wouldn't play them at all. They are intended for your lower skill levels. That being said I don't mean to say the Adv Masters are a lower skill level just a smaller # and would be easier to move. (Not final yet)



I'm playing MA2, I'm going to try to arrive on Thursday/early Friday. Could you recommend which courses to play assuming i only have time for two of them?

Thanks again!

Are there only 400 players packs or did you get as many as you had players last year and just say that so that everyone would pre reg and not just show and reg the day before??? A PMed responce would be cool and I would keep the info to myself. I just wondered since I was one of the 55 to register after 400 because of some finacial problems as of late and I was wondering what to expect and wish I had the money earlier cuz your players packs are always awesome.

Thanks again for busting your butt and running such a great event year after year.



Didn't you see the flyer? It reads "Players pack for first 400 pre-registered. And Steve Mills."

Didn't you see the flyer? It reads "Players pack for first 400 pre-registered. And Steve Mills."



Yeah I heard that the group Steve is riding down from Michigan with had to tell one of the other players they couldn't go because Steve's ego was taking up an extra seat in the car. :o

Are there only 400 players packs or did you get as many as you had players last year and just say that so that everyone would pre reg and not just show and reg the day before??? A PMed responce would be cool and I would keep the info to myself. I just wondered since I was one of the 55 to register after 400 because of some finacial problems as of late and I was wondering what to expect and wish I had the money earlier cuz your players packs are always awesome.

Thanks again for busting your butt and running such a great event year after year.




Nice reference to the butt you're kissin'. :p
:D
I guess I'd be in some financial difficulty too if I just got back from two A tiers in Vegas and Phoenix with no cash to show for it. :eek: :eek: :eek: :D:D

Yeah if Steve gets one of the special players packs even though he did not preregister in time, then I should be able to play in A-pool, even if I do not make the ratings cut. ;)

Sorry dude, only your mommy thinks your special. :D

And I thought YOU were his partner, Chris, after that failed attempt to get into the SN doubles last year :DSo where you staying? We're at the Motel 6. What about you Justin?
rWc3523 :cool:

What about you Justin?



I'm with Kris....I have no idea where we're staying.

And I thought YOU were his partner, Chris, after that failed attempt to get into the SN doubles last year :DSo where you staying? We're at the Motel 6. What about you Justin?
rWc3523 :cool:



We are at the Microtel right next to Cracker Barrell off the interstate.

No, I am not playing the organized doubles at Lovers. I really don't need the practice there. Hobson and Keriakes is where it is at. I will be at Hobson at 11am, followed by Keraikes at 3pm on Friday.

Plus Steve would get bored with me carrying him for the entire doubles round, he would be dissapointed because we would not be using any of his drives or putts. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

We tried to get Steve into the SN Am Championship. Hanan Browning from Birmingham was my partner for SN Dubs. But good thing Steve did not go because he probably would have beaten the stuff out of the guys doing the payout. Especially traveling all the way from Michigan for a skill shot, or was it a DB-5?

[QUOTE]
"As far as cap we don't plan to have one. We do have some things that can be done if they have to. One would be to move the Adv Masters and Adv women to the other courses to allow for more Adv. Men"

If at all possible, please allow the Adv. Women to play the courses that have been planned on. Could we play fivesomes or have extra pools? All of the Adv. Women will probably fit on four to five cards! I know that we have all been looking forward to playing these great courses!

Thanks for all of the work that you are doing. I'm looking forward to the tournament!!!

My bad, Kris. I'd forgotten which SN event it was. Yeah, Mills wouldn't have liked that much at all from what I know about him :DAnd I think the winners got DB-5s while us second place finishers got the wonderful DGA M-14, which is not a bad basket, but it's not a portable Mach 2. We should try and get together for breakfast maybe one morning. We want to arrive Fri. in time to play a round or two, just depends. rWc3523 :cool:

Nicole, if they move the Advanced Women and Advanced Masters into different pools, can Kelsey ride with you and your mom?

This stuff is hillarious. Keep it coming guys!!!

Anything to inflate your ego and give you a false sense of confidence..... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Seems to me your the one displaying all the CONFIDENCE about making a run at the final 9 from the B POOL!!!

Who's your partner illz? Either way my partner (http://www.sunnybeachdesign.com/DG/DG-Pages/Image10.html) can throw farther than both of yous.

You obviously dont know who my partner might be then. The guy I might be partnered with beat Coda Hatfield in a Distance competition :eek: :eek: :eek:

So NOW whos partner throws farther???

Mind you might team is not official yet but if it becomes official you guys better LOOK OUT!!!

If we're talking Bowling Green courses, I think I'd rather have a partner who could putt (accurately) farther than me...

Seems to me your the one displaying all the CONFIDENCE about making a run at the final 9 from the B POOL!!!



Well, not many of the people who beat me last year are back this year. And Bowling Green is one of my favorite places to play. As well, you thinking your sitting pretty on the A-pool may not play as agressive thinking that no one from the B-pool can do anything to beat you. Remember, pools are only based on ratings, and last year I placed high with an 867 player rating.

I have a nice cradle of players in the same boat as me playing in the B-pool. It's kinda the same mentality from entering the final round of a tourney on the second card only a few shots out of the lead. Anything goes man.

Plus, it's all fun anyways right. Every touranment is just practice for Worlds.

Well I guess since you don't have a partner, mine throws farther. :DBut I guess we'll see In 9 days. I think Bob's got extra space in his car and room if you need it.

Seems to me your the one displaying all the CONFIDENCE about making a run at the final 9 from the B POOL!!!



Well, not many of the people who beat me last year are back this year. And Bowling Green is one of my favorite places to play. As well, you thinking your sitting pretty on the A-pool may not play as agressive thinking that no one from the B-pool can do anything to beat you. Remember, pools are only based on ratings, and last year I placed high with an 867 player rating.

I have a nice cradle of players in the same boat as me playing in the B-pool. It's kinda the same mentality from entering the final round of a tourney on the second card only a few shots out of the lead. Anything goes man.

Plus, it's all fun anyways right. Every touranment is just practice for Worlds.



Its all in good fun man. Im not all into trash talking as much this year. Im just going to show up play and let my scores do that talking. See you in a week man. Maybe we will throw some practice rounds together.

I believe I posted my practice schedule a few pages back for the day before the event. I will practice rain/wind or warm/dry calm.

Hobson Grove ~11am
Lunch
Keriakes ~3pm

Your more then welcome to join up with me at Hobson. I will PM you my cell phone #.

Yeah anything I say on this forum has nothing to do with the tournament. It's all about going out and making the throws.

I found out the hard way that too much confidence is deadly in this game. Reserved quite confidence is the way to go. Cockiness worked well for me in distance running, not in disc golf.

anybody interested in playing doubles with the lowest rated player in adv?

larry.. u spelled my last name wrong againf or the 2nd year in a row.. haha.. its FORGY... thanks..

(dont let my rating fool you..)

don't feel too bad, I was listed as #$*&$! Greenwood. :D

Check out some of the flack I caught on the QC forum:
http://www.qcdiscgolf.com/cgi/blah/Blah.pl?b-13/m-1136300465/s-225/

you have to scroll down a bit to see the post.

That is HILARIOUS.

There are only 400 of the sweet packages. Others will get a mini and a disc.




That SUCKS , I had to be one of the first pre-regs over 400.

Is there going to be Dubs at any of the other courses? I rememberd reading something about Mace running dubs somwhere too, or maybe that was a dream i had :confused:

M_C_

Where can I find you to get a Worlds Bag Tag in Bowling Green?

Great, now it will be hard for me not to call you that during the rounds.

But that does not beat when I was in high school I received invites to compete in the Miss Teen USA pagent series. :eek:

Dang parents, and their desire to give me a creatively spelled name. There are actually a lot of boys named Kris born in 1978-1979. Weird phenomenon.

Is there going to be Dubs at any of the other courses? I rememberd reading something about Mace running dubs somwhere too, or maybe that was a dream i had :confused:



Erron, a small group of guys and I are half attempting to get in a cheap no more then $5 per person casual round of random draw dubs at Keriakes at 3pm.

Not trying to compete with Sun King. We just wanted practice on Keriakes. I will be playing it regardless of doubles or not.

That's funny, we just hired an IT guy names Kris with a K. Probably a little younger than you, not much though.

http://www.bgdg.org/maceman.html
Found it, Is this still happening or has there been a change of plans?

Actually I did not hear about that.

Basically Jon Milay, Dain Sivak and I were talking at the Atlanta tournament two weeks ago and wanted to get something together. Justin Main from Mississippi is going to join us when he gets into town. I am guessing we are going to have to sneak through the doubles competitors, man all this to get in a practice round.

Instead of spending $30 for doubles, I will be at Hobson at 11am. Trying to get Mills to join me for that casual (no score) round, your welcome to join in too.

This tournament is only 10 days away!!
Who's gonna be in the final 9 in Am 1?

Hey...I was engaged to a girl named Kris who was born in 1978...weird...

Just as long as you said you didn't have some "changes" made, we'll be oooook. :eek:

This tournament is only 10 days away!!
Who's gonna be in the final 9 in Am 1?



16 people who shoot better then the others during the first four rounds. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Hey...I was engaged to a girl named Kris who was born in 1978...weird...

Just as long as you said you didn't have some "changes" made, we'll be oooook. :eek:



Nope, born a male, will stay a male. I think my wife would have some issues if I changed my mind.

M_C_

Where can I find you to get a Worlds Bag Tag in Bowling Green?



TopDog: I figured I would attend the fly mart and sell the world tags there, probably hold a sign up or something while walking around.

Just look for me, I'm the guy on the right in this pic. (note: my hair is about 5 inches longer now):

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a34/scidflog/JakeandMike.jpg

u be riding with dain? awesome.. i think he is staying in my hotel room..

anyways.. i have found a partner for doubles at LL.. wheee

i may be the lowest rated player of the adv players.. but i guarantee you i wont be in last place..

No, I am not riding with Dain, he is coming in from Atlanta and going up through Chattanooga, much faster then coming out to Birmingham.


Mike, hair 5 inches longer?? Do you have a fro now?

Mike, hair 5 inches longer?? Do you have a fro now?



Only in the morning :D

Erron, a small group of guys and I are half attempting to get in a cheap no more then $5 per person casual round of random draw dubs at Keriakes at 3pm.

Is open to anyone.

Yeah of course.

But with the Maceman thing going on, I do not know how logistical that would be. We can try, I doubt that Maceman will take up all 18 holes, we should be able to do our own thing.

PM me if your interested I can give you my Phone #, or look for the guy with the Tan Prius in the parking lot/cornfield.

There will be two doubles events on Friday at Kereiakes hosted by Mace Man. The first event will have a flex start from 10 AM to 11 AM, and the second event will also be flex start between 3 PM and 4 PM. These events are Pick Your Partner Best Shot Doubles. The payout will be 100% and you will pick your prizes as is the case at every event we run. Mace Man will be at Kereiakes all weekend so you will be able to collect your prizes at your convince.

Parkntwoputt,

Do not sweat dubs unless you absolutely need gas money. Any course can be played, knowing, you know, big T town. The course that you can really slip on is Hobson. I have shot +6 and -1 in the old man division. Do NOT take this course lightly. Then, I absolutely love Keriakes. 40 ft. high and 20 ft. wide disc catchers are everywhere. If you play Keriakes look for the over route. Over the disc catchers. You can score very well by going over. Do not sweat it. White LONG and open(Period), Lovers more trees, kind of like Haikey w/tad more elevation and not quite as long. You can knock scores there w/accurate hyzers.

Peace and good luck at the biggest AM tourny in the Country.
Definitely see earilier post. I will be there in the old man division.

RonSTL

You obviously dont know who my partner might be then. The guy I might be partnered with beat Coda Hatfield in a Distance competition :eek: :eek: :eek:

So NOW whos partner throws farther???

Mind you might team is not official yet but if it becomes official you guys better LOOK OUT!!!



I didn't know "The Freak" was going down...

Can't wait to see you guys down there I'll be giving it my best effort to join you in the finals Millz :D

Thank Ron, this is my thrid tourny to Bowling Green in a year. I know Hobson and Keriakes pretty well.

As for an informal doubles at Keriakes, I am only half interested. I am playing Hobson first, then Keriakes. Either way I am playing both courses on Friday, doubles or not. The doubles thing is more of a social event then competition or money raising. $5 just makes it interesting. I have a hybrid so the BG round trip will only cost me $30 in gas, so I don't need gas money.

I am excited to play white with the OB. But Lovers and White don't need practice.

Thanks man.

You obviously dont know who my partner might be then. The guy I might be partnered with beat Coda Hatfield in a Distance competition :eek: :eek: :eek:

So NOW whos partner throws farther???

Mind you might team is not official yet but if it becomes official you guys better LOOK OUT!!!



I didn't know "The Freak" was going down...

Can't wait to see you guys down there I'll be giving it my best effort to join you in the finals Millz :D



Its not The Freak either. You guys prolly havent even heard of this guy........lol

I'd pick Hobson and Kereiakes too, but ...White is totally different with the OB. You think you know the distances to cross the walking path or stay between the walking paths, etc. That hyzer you take for hole #13 looks a lot scarier when you have to keep it between the paths...not to mention the bunkers on Hole #3! Don't underestimate the power of White!! :D;)

Does anybody know just WHAT the play pack is? I'm really curious. I was one of the first 400... so I know I'll be getting whatever it is... but... I'm realllly curious lol.

I've heard the packs are absolutely awesome :)

i wonder when the list of already registerd players for lovers lane doubles will be up?

Parkntwoputt,

Right on, I had no idea. I also am ready to play white w/ropes. It also reminds me of swope. It will take the boys that can throw the disc 2 miles and make them throw 2 miles w/accuracy. Peace and kill AM1.

Do to the overwhelming number of players there isn't room to do anything at the Host Hotel. All players party stuff will be held at the Knight Of Columbus which is about 3 miles from the Host Hotel on Lovers Lane.

Current pre-registered list has all entries up till Feb 23 by online and snail mail. We are almost at 200 pre-registered so make sure and let your buddies know if they want the main players package that they need to get it in, as only the 1st 400 to pre-register get it.

This years players package will have:
Innova Starline (wraith or teebird)
Discraft full color Spectra ( I think )
Gateway Element
DGA ghost stamped Squall
Custom stamped tee-shirt
Mini
and what ever else we can get between now and then.


Should answer your question.........

There's a pic of a full color BG AMS stamp on the BG disc golf Web site, so hopefully that's a good sign.Check it out here
http://www.bgdg.org/

This just in....

Sun King Discs will have the new Limited Edition ESP Avengers available starting at the Lovers Lane Doubles on Friday. March 31st. Only 600 were produced (we have 50 coming). Expected available weights are between 160g-169g and just a few in the low 170's.

Thanks!
Mike Barnett

sweet - avenger's my fave disc - i'll be sure to get a couple.

Frog - I'll partner up with you - lowest rated ADV player or not - let's have fun and a couple aces :o)

Signed up for 12 noon,Lovers, to give you afternooners something to strive for.

Its official. Me and Billy Lund are doubles partners for Lovers Lane doubles. You guys better watch out!!!

Its official. Me and Billy Lund are doubles partners for Lovers Lane doubles. You guys better watch out!!!



Don't use him all up, we still have to win AM WORLD DOUBLES the next weekend. :D:D:D

I was just wondering if anyone that pre-registered in the first 400 is not going to be able to make it to the tourney. If that is the case could I somehow get your players pack if I register in your place?? (I hope this is doable.) I just found out about this tourney a week ago and really want to go but I have no chance of cashing in Advanced and it would be nice to get something for going. It is sad but whether or not I go his hinging on the players pack. (I am very poor Iowan.) Not a big deal, but I thought I would at least throw it out there. I hope to hear from someone that can't make it........PEACE. :o<font color="red"> </font>

must blow to be such a bagger....oooohhhh...I'm lund.....i don't wanna go pro yet....my prediction...he won't win world am's ...my money is on Salazar....new thunder.....striking!!!!! :D oh and no offense.....just having a little fun! :cool:

Lund would be an idiot to turn pro right now...he is one of the top contenders for 06 Worlds.

Looks like our doubles team for BG is 2 of the Top contenders for AM Worlds then :eek: :eek: :eek:

OK here we go. :D

whatever dude, that's what Coda said a couple years ago, we all know how that turned out. Nearly every tournament last year was a top 5, and in the top 50 at am worlds in '04! :eek: I'm sure McCoy agrees with ya too. (that was sarcasm, I'm not sure how to use the tags for that :D)
How much gratification in the advanced division does one person need? :confused:

I'm glad there's 16 making the finals. The top card or two should get bags of sand and I'll applaud the real am winners, 8th-16th. :D

whatever dude, that's what Coda said a couple years ago, we all know how that turned out. Nearly every tournament last year was a top 5, and in the top 50 at am worlds in '04! :eek: I'm sure McCoy agrees with ya too. (that was sarcasm, I'm not sure how to use the tags for that :D)
How much gratification in the advanced division does one person need? :confused:

I'm glad there's 16 making the finals. The top card or two should get bags of sand and I'll applaud the real am winners, 8th-16th. :D



I called Billy Lund a top contender not a for sure LOCK for the win. Shut your man pleaser and take your adolescent whining to another thread.

Remember when Coda started that thread about himself?

Billy is not that guy.

Whoa, fella, all in good fun, Mike! I sure didn't have intentions of upsetting you. :D Just having some fun!

I missed that Coda thread, though.

Looks like our doubles team for BG is 2 of the Top contenders for AM Worlds then :eek: :eek: :eek:



I think your team has an unfair advantage for this doubles event.

Isn't three players against the rules?

-Steve Mills
-Billy Lund
-Steve's Ego

Or is Steve's ego going to play singles against everyone else and Billy and Steve will caddy? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Jackson not to burst your bubble but there are 60 or so people ahead of you that would get first dibs at players packages when someone drops out. I have 2 that did and they have already been claimed. Sorry to say but someone can't allow others to take there spot.

Looks like our doubles team for BG is 2 of the Top contenders for AM Worlds then :eek: :eek: :eek:



Did you let someone else take your place in dubs, and are just caddying? :eek:

Larry I also sent you an e-mail about this.

Had 2 people back out on be for going to bowling green. If i have to backout when would be the last day to get a refund? or has it passed?

: ) :

Looks like our doubles team for BG is 2 of the Top contenders for AM Worlds then :eek: :eek: :eek:



Did you let someone else take your place in dubs, and are just caddying? :eek:



Your joking right???

Gotta hand it to ya' Steve you are quick.

This is GREAT!! Man I cant wait to meet everyone up in BG...putn' faces with the names on here is always fun....keep the smack talk comin'!!! :D

Looks like our doubles team for BG is 2 of the Top contenders for AM Worlds then :eek: :eek: :eek:



Did you let someone else take your place in dubs, and are just caddying? :eek:



Your {sic} joking right???



No. I'm not joking.

Nice Robbie. You rule.

Maybe I can BRIDE Hein with plastic and beer to caddy for me :eek: :eek: :eek:



I would think about it if you could get me something other than Discraft! But hopefully you'll be on the top card with Mike and Chase so I can get some great footage.

Looks like our doubles team for BG is 2 of the Top contenders for AM Worlds then :eek: :eek: :eek:



Did you let someone else take your place in dubs, and are just caddying? :eek:



Your {sic} joking right???



No. I'm not joking.



See there is a difference here. There are two personas. It is just like MTL and Robert Leonard. Here we have Big_DG_Pimpin and Steve Mills

Big_DG_Pimpin is a smack talking mofo who is going to clean everyones clocks at Bowling Green, win every other A-Tier on the circut, and go uncontested at Am Worlds with a nice wrap up taking first second and third at USADGC. After that Big_DG_Pimpin might consider dabbling in the Open division, but he has some goals he would like to meet first.

Now Steve Mills is just like everyother good amateur player. On a good day, he is as good as every other pro. On a bad day, you think he just started playing. He has good rounds and bad rounds, and is actually humble. And like any other good advanced player, if he has a solid week at Am worlds, he can be in contention to win, one bad round and he is out of the finals but still a top finisher, however it is lilkely possible for Steve, like all top ams to have a bad tournament and not even cash.

On the forums, Big_DG_Pimpin likes to speak for Steve and talk up his skills. Just ignore Big_DG_Pimpin. He is a bafoon.

:eek: :p :D

humble!?!?

humble!?!?



Yeah, about as humble as I am. It's all relative right? :cool:

Looks like our doubles team for BG is 2 of the Top contenders for AM Worlds then :eek: :eek: :eek:



Did you let someone else take your place in dubs, and are just caddying? :eek:



Your {sic} joking right???



No. I'm not joking.



You must be on drugs if you dont think im a contender for AM Worlds!!! Want to bet on rounds at BG???

I thought you were working towards an MBA parkintwo, not a psych degree :D rWc#3523 :cool:

Whoa, fella, all in good fun, Mike! I sure didn't have intentions of upsetting you. :D Just having some fun!

I missed that Coda thread, though.




Yo Greenwood: It's all good, I can come across like a &amp;%$#* sometimes but in all realness I'm just bored at work.

I do like reading and talkin some smack though...Let the SMACK continue!! :D:D

The funny thing is, Steve Mills is not the best Am 1 in Michigan.

I didn't see Ratman or Frame on the list? What r they up to? rWc#3523 :cool:

The funny thing is, Steve Mills is not the best Am 1 in Michigan.



Who is?

Andrew Pola. Is the highest rated.

I thought you were working towards an MBA parkintwo, not a psych degree :D rWc#3523 :cool:



Interesting you say that.

I have many degrees. Not only a Bachelors in Biz MGMT, but a Minor in Psych, and a Minor in Organizational Leadership and Supervision. And in 4 weeks I will have my MBA. During the commencement ceremony I will be playing Idlewild at the Blue Grass Open.

People are interesting subjects to study.

Andrew Pola. Is the highest rated.



Is Andrew Pola the nemesis of Steve Mills????????

And yer just a kid! :D;) :)
I'll see ya this weekend in H'town. rWc#3523 :cool:

Larry,

A couple of questions for you...

Will the track at Keriakes be OB this year? As well, are 1, 2, 10, and 15 the only holes in the long position?

Is #13 at Hobson going to be played in the long position?

Thanks,

Daniel

PS--Hobson looks really good with the work that you guys have done. It's obviously been cleaned up a bit! :)

Let's set this MI record straight---
Andrew Pola, although he may be a good golfer, has only 1 rated tourny. As do most of MI's top rated golfers. The best accurately-rated AM in MI right now is Benny Calhoun.
And I know, you'd expect things to change when you speak to him face to face, but Mills is about the same person as you hear now. Actually the only real change in person is that he's much louder. If he wanted to accurately relay his personality, he would use 16-18 pt type, ALL CAPS, and bold on every statement he makes.

You must be on drugs if you dont think im a contender for AM Worlds!!! Want to bet on rounds at BG???



No, drugs in this body, I assure you. Anybody who knows me knows my firm anti-drug stance.

This is the worst thread ever. Who cares how high your rating is? Am world Contender. OOHH.. Why is it that before every big event the same big mouth a holes have to say " see you in the final's or " I bet I can hit I65 from lovers lane with my mini.

Get over yourself. its just discgolf

Who doesn't care what their rating is? How else would I have the proof to say "I'm better than you" if you live in NC and I live in MI? :DJ/K

Thats the same as saying " I have more money than you. So, i guess im better than you.

You Mullet

Woops. It's true, having a better rating would in no way make me a better person. What I meant was "I'm better at shooting higher rated rounds than you." But even then, it is still a joke.

I freely admit that many, many, many disc golfers are better than I am at the sport of disc golf. Yet, that simple fact does not diminish my absolute enjoyment of the sport in the least.

There are countless other things in my life that give me equal or more enjoyment. Few, if any, of those things have a ratings system. And I take disc golf less seriously than almost all of those other things.

____________________

Back to the topic at hand --- I can't wait to get to BG on Thursday. Although, you might want to bring your rain gear:

http://static.flickr.com/35/117230281_d9e70ea304_o.jpg

This is the worst thread ever. Who cares how high your rating is? Am world Contender. OOHH.. Why is it that before every big event the same big mouth a holes have to say " see you in the final's or " I bet I can hit I65 from lovers lane with my mini.

Get over yourself. its just discgolf



There is nothing wrong with a person claiming they will be on the leadercard at worlds. Why do you have to bash people when they are just talking smack?

Kozak, you might want to stay on the Equipment thread if you don't want to read any smack talk from Amateur a holes.

Rooster.......many don't have the wide range of talents and hobbies like us....let them be....therefore we are! :D:D

A true professional is genuinely humble or has learned to hide his ego about his teaching and playing ability. A true professional does not talk incessantly about all the world-class players they have worked with. They do not name-drop, nor do they go on about whom they have beaten as a player. Rather they focus on their progress. This is not to suggest that a true professional doesn�t have an ego. There is a distinction between a strong ego (good thing) and a big ego (not such a good thing).

Eat it !

Did you read that thread where Barry and Kenny were talking all that smack before the big NT tournament?

Me either.

A true professional



"Bowling Green AMATEUR Championships"

A true professional



"Bowling Green AMATEUR Championships"



Ok, then how about a "true sportsman"?

Oh, and I also missed the AMATEUR threads where Marc Estenfelder, Jack Schmalfeld, Kim Scott-wood, Adam Olsen, or Kevin Tomasaitis talked all that smack.

What? There was no such thread?

Wow, I hope to see some of this competition up close at the Friday Doubles at Lovers Lane!

We have (10) teams pre-registered (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=9100-LLDET&Category_Code=9100) and I know of 3 or 4 teams from Florida that have yet to register, bring the total to around (15) teams. With the amount of smack talk and shots across the bow, I figured we see some of these folks registered.

The 3:00pm Tee Time has the most entries so far but I know some teams had talked about playing both the Noon and 3:00pm rounds. Also, we will have "rolling" tee times for both rounds (12 Noon-1pm & 3:00pm-4:00pm) to accomodate players that are arriving in town for the weekend.

So far, the CryZtal Buzzz is the hot item being picked for the players packages with the "Ice" Z Wasp right behind it.

It's all fun. If Mills wants to pump up all this pressure for him to do well then that is just fine. As for me, I know I have the potential to do well again this year, and actually even better, so yes it is a possibility for me to make the finals. Will I? Who knows? I wish I could predict the outcomes of Disc Golf tournaments. Heck you can not even base the outcome off the first round. I have won tournaments coming from the last card during the second round, and I have finished on the last card after only being a few shots off the lead during the second round.

Anything can happen. And as for me, I enjoy giving Mills a hard time for all the smack he talks.

I am looking forward to this event. I will be starting off in the B-pool, so since my PDGA assigned arbitary number says I will not place in the top 1/3, then there is no pressure on me. Because Erron Salazar is now expected to win because his PDGA assigned arbitary number is the highest.

Best of luck everybody, and make the best statistic win!

And I know, you'd expect things to change when you speak to him face to face, but Mills is about the same person as you hear now. Actually the only real change in person is that he's much louder. If he wanted to accurately relay his personality, he would use 16-18 pt type, ALL CAPS, and bold on every statement he makes.



Reading that just made my day

Jamie,

Your signature on your posts is great and true.

I had to learn that the hard way two weeks ago in Atlanta.

The tracks are never OB for any division at Kereiakes. The long tees there are as follows. #1, #2, #3 has long pin, #5 long pin, #6, #10, #12, #15, #16 has long pin. We will move 3 if we can find the key.

Hobson #13 has been moved long and will be played just as the Pro's will play it. We will use long #10 as well.

Preston Miller - we are working to get this course playable, will know more after this weekend. If it isn't playable then we will use Bassil Griffin Park twice for those pools having to play here.

I will update the list later with the online entries. Are treasurer is gone till Tuesday so I won't be able to udate any mail entries till then. I will ge them updated on Wed.

I had a bad round a Keriakas last year, 2 hangers on my last 4 holes really screwed me. I still managed to squeak in the top 20...hopefully I'll fair a little better this year.

Can't wait to play BG again.

Wow, I hope to see some of this competition up close at the Friday Doubles at Lovers Lane!

We have (10) teams pre-registered (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=9100-LLDET&Category_Code=9100) and I know of 3 or 4 teams from Florida that have yet to register, bring the total to around (15) teams. With the amount of smack talk and shots across the bow, I figured we see some of these folks registered.

The 3:00pm Tee Time has the most entries so far but I know some teams had talked about playing both the Noon and 3:00pm rounds. Also, we will have "rolling" tee times for both rounds (12 Noon-1pm & 3:00pm-4:00pm) to accomodate players that are arriving in town for the weekend.

So far, the CryZtal Buzzz is the hot item being picked for the players packages with the "Ice" Z Wasp right behind it.





Yeah Mills. Get on your bike and get registered. It wont be worth it to you unless you get the free disc, as you will be leaving with nothing. ;)

Wow, I hope to see some of this competition up close at the Friday Doubles at Lovers Lane!

We have (10) teams pre-registered (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=9100-LLDET&Category_Code=9100) and I know of 3 or 4 teams from Florida that have yet to register, bring the total to around (15) teams. With the amount of smack talk and shots across the bow, I figured we see some of these folks registered.

The 3:00pm Tee Time has the most entries so far but I know some teams had talked about playing both the Noon and 3:00pm rounds. Also, we will have "rolling" tee times for both rounds (12 Noon-1pm & 3:00pm-4:00pm) to accomodate players that are arriving in town for the weekend.

So far, the CryZtal Buzzz is the hot item being picked for the players packages with the "Ice" Z Wasp right behind it.





Yeah Mills. Get on your bike and get registered. It wont be worth it to you unless you get the free disc, as you will be leaving with nothing. ;)



Haha. Thats hillarious. Ill see you down there man. Cant wait to play some poker and drink some beers with you guys. See you in a week!!!

A true professional



"Bowling Green AMATEUR Championships"



Ok, then how about a "true sportsman"?

Oh, and I also missed the AMATEUR threads where Marc Estenfelder, Jack Schmalfeld, Kim Scott-wood, Adam Olsen, or Kevin Tomasaitis talked all that smack.

What? There was no such thread?



Hang on a second. NONE of those guys are even on here except for Jack and I can assure you that KT and Kim Scott like to talk smack because last night at 425 AM I got a VOICE MAIL from KT telling me he can whoop me all over the place and him and his boy can take me and Slater in doubles on ANY course in the world!!! And whenever I see Kim Scott we are always talking smack back and forth. Just because they dont do it on here doesnt mean they dont do it in person or on the phone. Plus its all in good fun man. You think everyone on here is being serious and really has ill will toward others and as far as I can tell your the ONLY one on here with ill will toward anyone. Cuz I know that Conners 2Putt Chase, DSPro, Myself and some others I cant name are all just on here having a good time and pumping ourselves up for this tournament. I dont see anything wrong with any of that and im sorry its offends you but I have a great Idea if it does. Dont read it or put ALL of us on IGNORE!!!

Thanks and have a great day. :D

We hit town Thursday afternoon, and are planning on Hobson, dinner and cards. We are staying at the 6. Mike and I tee off at noon.

I'll be sure to let you know when I 'm ready to start taking advice from you Mills.

Hint: It won't be any time real soon.

This thread is hilarious
IMO smack talking is just a distraction, dont worry about the other players, or anything else u can't control, just focus on the course but it will be interesting to see who can back it up.

who can back it up.



Predicition: Noone that posted on this thread.
But it is hilarious!

I am really looking forward to playing the same courses that I have played for the past three years at B.G. in the Advanced Masters division. Hopefully that division won't be sent other places. www.beatmurphy.com. (http://www.beatmurphy.com.)

475 players... WOW..

Will this be the disc golf event on earth ever? Wasn't this the biggest event last year?

The more players, the more points the baggers get.

All I know is that I come here just to read the smack talk! I don't know any of these guys except for DS... But even I can tell its all just fun and games, and overall pretty **** funny.

I look forward to a year from now when I've put together a rating and game good enough to talk a lil smack before BG Ams ;) And yes, I'm certain that in a year I'll have enough game to talk!


-Chris.

Where is everybody?

I think there are 246 AM1s. What are hot rounds going to be?
Last year-
Keriakes 45
Hobson 49?
Lovers 45?
White 49 Pimpin It
Man if 49 was hot at Hobson, that's funny. Cause White is like 1000' longer.

Yeah, except that Hobson has these things that White doesn't. They're called trees.

I think there are 246 AM1s. What are hot rounds going to be?
Last year-
Keriakes 45
Hobson 49?
Lovers 45?
White 49 Pimpin It
Man if 49 was hot at Hobson, that's funny. Cause White is like 1000' longer.




It rained at Hobson. Slight wind also. It did effect scores, Id expect higher this year.

I shot -4 at White with a double and a single. However, we werent playing paths OB, and the wind wasnt all that bad.

Where is everybody?



I was busy experimenting with how you can blow a solid second place standing in the thrid round. :mad:

What happened? That third round looked pretty rough for the top card?

Yeah my strategy going into the 3rd round was very simple. I was 8 shots behind first, and 4 ahead of third. So I just wanted to play solid, smart, and maintain. I wasn't trying anything risky to catch up to 1st. Obviously that did not happen. :mad:

3rd and 4th round were on the same course.

3rd was long, 4th was "shorter"

#8 featured a 1167ft hole winding 50ft fairway between a pine grove and thick shule. The fairway was as narrow as 20ft for the last 150ft to the pin. 6 was PAR! On the lead card, in respective of 1st thru 4th at the time, the scores were 7,7,6,9! It took us 25 minutes to play that one hole.

Birdies were very hard to get out there.

My putt was off on Sunday, combined with all birdie putts were outside 50ft, and all par putts were inside 10ft. Redstone Arsenal (3rd/4th rounds) is very unforgiving. My buddy who played his second tournament ever sandbagged MA2 in his first PDGA event ever and finished 2nd. He beat me on 3 out of 4 courses and would have finished 2nd in Advanced. Needless to say this was his last MA2 tournament. And yes, MA2 and MA1 played the same configuration. Just check his round ratings (Jeremy Drake).

Unfortunately he cannot afford to go to Bowling Green Am's. He also has soccer practice as he is the starting goalie for the UAB Soccer Team. Disc Golf is secondary to him, we are trying to change that.

Yea, must be a tough course. Those ratings made it look like you had some strong winds or rain.

Round 1 - UAH Par is really 59. Course record is 50.
Windy ~15mph and cold, tee off was 37 degrees

Round 2 - Brahan Springs, par 54.
Tight and wooded, winds picked up near 20mph
Temperature reached high of 45 degrees

Round 3 - Redstone Long par 58 (did not change on TD report)
light winds, sunny and warm. Just a brutal course.

Round 4 - Redstone short par 54
Ideal conditions, 55 degrees.

UAH is very comparable with White Park in Bowling Green. Long, usually very windy, but there is two holes throwing long over water, four that envolve a creek, lots of OB pavement. And heavy thick shule on 5 of the holes.

It really was a good warmup event for Bowling Green.

I think there are 246 AM1s. What are hot rounds going to be?
Last year-
Keriakes 45
Hobson 49?
Lovers 45?
White 49 Pimpin It
Man if 49 was hot at Hobson, that's funny. Cause White is like 1000' longer.



I count 240 Am1's pre-registered. Larry will be updating the totals tomorrow. Do you guys think it is possible for 300+ Advanced?!?! Should be quite the gallery to watch 5 or more of us Michigan players in the Final 9. :D

I think there are 246 AM1s. What are hot rounds going to be?
Last year-
Keriakes 45
Hobson 49?
Lovers 45?
White 49 Pimpin It
Man if 49 was hot at Hobson, that's funny. Cause White is like 1000' longer.



I count 240 Am1's pre-registered. Larry will be updating the totals tomorrow. Do you guys think it is possible for 300+ Advanced?!?! Should be quite the gallery to watch 5 or more of us Michigan players in the Final 9. :D




Im surprised you didnt say that there were going to be 9 Michigan players in the final 9. I think everyone from Michigan that is going to Bowling Green has said they will make the finals, with the exception of Brad Brundage. I know he is capable.... he played in a B tier at my home course in Clearwater, FL where he shot an 8 down the same round I shot 9 down. I guess it will only be a matter of days until we find out.....

I think everyone from Michigan that is going to Bowling Green has said they will make the finals


You thought wrong! Not me. But there will be 15 MI players in the final 9.

You thought wrong! Not me. But there will be 15 MI players in the final 9.



Wow. Just goes to show you that the stereotype about people in the south being dumb and bad at math is just not true.

I know its still a few days away But..
from weather.gov:

Friday: Showers and thunderstorms likely. Cloudy and breezy, with a high around 69. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

Friday Night: A 30 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy and breezy, with a low near 51.

Saturday: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 66.

Saturday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 47.

Sunday: Partly cloudy, with a high near 66.

i hope it stays like that :D

Don't worry too much about the weather. Adverse weather levels the playing field and actually shows who the real golfers are.

If it rains, just grab your grippy plastic, umbrella and extra towels and show the course who's boss.

If it rains, just grab your grippy plastic, umbrella and extra towels and show the course who's boss.



had to that last year, didnt show the course though :(

Don't worry too much about the weather. Adverse weather levels the playing field and actually shows who the real golfers are.

If it rains, just grab your grippy plastic, umbrella and extra towels and show the course who's boss.



Friday, rain n howling wind = +15 @ hobson/keriakes
Saturday, sunshine = -3 @ lovers/white

The weather sure spanked me.

Who cares what the weather is like. The good golfers will prevail no matter what the conditions are. Cant wait to get down there wednesday and start preparing for the tournament. See all you guys soon :D:D:D

I care about weather. Playing in 65 and sunny sounds alot more fun than playing in rain and cold. I guess I'm just crazy like that /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif And from my past experience, bad weather often just bunches up the amateur ranks.

Welcome to, anything that can happen!
Blowing Green is normally blowing and rain.
RonSTL

[email protected] IT!!! Playn B-ball this past friday and went up for a dunk, came down on my ankle sideways and CRUNCH!! Great timing to be acting like a fool, iced it all weekend and now the swelling is down but its still tender.....hopefully it will be good by this weekend!!!?

Hey all-played bg last year for the first time and had a great time (Kereiakes was my favorite). Still playing in AM II though...but we have four different courses to shoot this year . I am going to have time on Friday to play probably two of the new ones...any recommendations as to where my time would be best spent preparing, would be appreciated! Aren't they-Griffin, Miller, Edmonson, &amp; Franklin? Thanks! Bernie-Michigan

Sorry to hear that Billy. I can sympathize, though. At a tournament this weekend, during the first round I broke a bone in my throwing hand (on the top of the hand, just below the pinkie finger) when I smacked a tee sign on my follow through.

I was able to finish the next three rounds, but my hand is swollen and throbbing.

Hey Robbie, sorry to hear that man, u still comin up?? Hopefully it heals enough....by then...if not we can have an ICE party after the rounds for our bumps and bruises... :D

ouch!!

Hey Robbie, sorry to hear that man, u still comin up??



Oh, yeah. I'll still be there. Non-refundable airline ticket and all that...

DO NOT USE WEATHER CHANNEL. Always use the local forcasters predictions. They live there and know what to look for easier and more predictably.

http://www.bgky.org/weather/hw3.php?config=&forecast=zandh&place=bowling+green&state=ky&zipcode=&country=us&maxdays=7&daysonly=2

FRIDAY: Thunder Storms Hi: 70�F Lo: 51�F Pop. of Rain: 60%

SATURDAY: Partly Cloudy Hi: 69�F Lo: 45�F

SUNDAY: Partly Cloudy Hi: 69�F Lo: 49�F

Now....a little no rain for the Friday Doubles at Lovers Lane and it will be some dankness

You are laying out standards for True Professionals to people that have an aversion to becoming professional. This is an Am Thread.

I am looking forward to seeing all of you this weekend.

I want to play some cards, count me in.

No way. Where is the Blowing? 10mph on Saturday? 7 on Sunday WTF!? And I retract my prediction. There will be 10 Michiganders in the final 9. 15 is just not realistic, it's true.

And I think if this Tstorm on Friday comes true, I might have to skip doubles. Me and my partner will still win, but we'll be playing a different game. (http://www.winjaz.net/16huntington/600%20Cup%20Beirut%20Game%2011%5B1%5D.9.2002%20009 .jpg)

That is a lot of work. DO you plan on making it on Saturday...that is if it rains on Friday.

Friday. Wanna play?

DO NOT USE WEATHER CHANNEL. Always use the local forcasters predictions. They live there and know what to look for easier and more predictably.

http://www.bgky.org/weather/hw3.php?config=&forecast=zandh&place=bowling+green&state=ky&zipcode=&country=us&maxdays=7&daysonly=2

FRIDAY: Thunder Storms Hi: 70�F Lo: 51�F Pop. of Rain: 60%

SATURDAY: Partly Cloudy Hi: 69�F Lo: 45�F

SUNDAY: Partly Cloudy Hi: 69�F Lo: 49�F

Now....a little no rain for the Friday Doubles at Lovers Lane and it will be some dankness



Thats why i use National weathr service :D

Or as you said, a Local TV station: http://www.wbko.com/weather
http://gray.ftp.clickability.com/wbkowebftp/extended.jpg

There will be 10 Michiganders in the final 9. 15 is just not realistic, it's true.



Well, ****, only 1/6th of the entire ADV field is from Michigan (40 of the 240 so far, and 74 in all divisions out of 475 players of the entire tournament).

Hell, even Kentucky...the freakin' host state...only has 26 ADV players (50 overall).

Somebody remember to turn out the lights when ya'll hit the state line on your way South.

dunno which hotel u staying at.. but would like to watch ya all play that game.. never seen b.pong that HUGE! heh

my college days of partying hard are over..

Golf? Yes....drinking games? No :o. I havn't even practiced golf enough to hang with most of you of late let alone drinking games. I would watch and sip on the sidelines though. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I was once played beer pong after Crew practice during the world series in 2000. Drank 48 beers and had the beer #$*&$! the next day. Add to that it was Natty Ice and you have one dumb college story. :p

In case you're curious as to where everybody is coming from:

<table border="1"><tr><td>State</td><td>Number
</td></tr><tr><td>MI</td><td>74
</td></tr><tr><td>TN</td><td>67
</td></tr><tr><td>IL</td><td>57
</td></tr><tr><td>KY</td><td>50
</td></tr><tr><td>OH</td><td>31
</td></tr><tr><td>MO</td><td>22
</td></tr><tr><td>IN</td><td>21
</td></tr><tr><td>WI</td><td>21
</td></tr><tr><td>AL</td><td>19
</td></tr><tr><td>Unknown</td><td>17
</td></tr><tr><td>IA</td><td>15
</td></tr><tr><td>OK</td><td>11
</td></tr><tr><td>FL</td><td>9
</td></tr><tr><td>MS</td><td>8
</td></tr><tr><td>TX</td><td>8
</td></tr><tr><td>WV</td><td>8
</td></tr><tr><td>VA</td><td>7
</td></tr><tr><td>NC</td><td>6
</td></tr><tr><td>Ontario</td><td>6
</td></tr><tr><td>GA</td><td>5
</td></tr><tr><td>PA</td><td>4
</td></tr><tr><td>MN</td><td>3
</td></tr><tr><td>CA</td><td>2
</td></tr><tr><td>SC</td><td>2
</td></tr><tr><td>NH</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Thanks Rooster.

Nice to see so many Michigan Players registered. We are all eager to get down there!

Daemon, count me in for a game or two of beer pong. Host Hotel?

Heading down in 28 hours!

Yessir, I will most likely be in the hot tub on thursday. Where's the big Thursday night poker game being played?

I have got to get in on this Beer Pong never seen it let alone played it. somebody call me... I'd be down for some poker also. Not getting in until late Thursday though.

George Sturm 23933
(586)292-6178

Not sure about Thursday night, Friday night's at the 6.

What's the buy in? I'll be at the Six Friday night, that is, if our vehicle gets repaired in time. rWc3523 :cool:

probably just $5 or $10, depends on how many people, and who wants to play for more, or less. More about the hangin' out, having a good time. :D

I just updated the list of pre-registered with everything we have to date. The online is closed so if you signed up that way and don't see your name you will need to contact titledisc.com and see why they haven't sent your info on to me. As for snail mail I wouldn't recommend sending any more that way because if we don't have it by Friday then you will be required to pay again.

For those wondering there is still room left for registration on Friday night. Those wondering about pools and courses you will play, that info will be given at the players meeting Sat. morning. The reason for that is due to numbers coming in on Friday we may have to move divisions or even pools to different courses.

Those car pooling let us know on Friday night when you check-n and try to check-n together so we can make sure and get you all in the same pool. We will do what we can to help you.

Time is counting down - see you all this weekend.

Friday. Wanna play?


HELL. YES.

Aren't you a lil young Mr. Stahlin? Thought you were still an underager ;) An underager kicking my #$*&$! every tournament, but still... hahahaa

I'm in for some beerpong, Shoey (Brian Shoemaker) and Dupler (Brian Dupler) and Isaiah (Gonzalez) are probably in too unless somethin happens. I know one thing is for sure... Sunday night after its all said and done... i am going to be absolutely *GONE* since Dupler is driving Monday all the way back hahaha