Technically, if you accept cash you are no longer an AM...you can still play AM (rating under 955) but you are still considered a pro which IS contradicting.

I don't think the obelisk rules are published anywhere. If I wanted an amateur obelisk and I was a contender it might occur to me to ask before taking pro cash. I think most people who win an obelisk have the same reaction, "Me? I'm getting a what? What am I getting it for? Really?"

Agreed.

I still think it's a bum deal though, but if I had as many points as Chad I would have inquired with the PDGA first before playing pro and accepting cash...

I can say this, I know some pros who play advanced sometimes and they NEVER get any points for playing AM but they get paid out in plastic...so basically, pros who play am get paid out but get no points :confused: :confused: :confused: I am a little puzzled by all this.

A clarification is definately needed by someone.

FlyinHigh: That signature is hilarious!

Thanks. Pleeeenty more, also. Id love to put a few up, but I dont think Rhett would allow them.

Woo Hoo

55/4848

Guess that is good for something.

About as good as being
694/5143 in ratings.

:p

Because points me a whole heck of a lot.

I look at PDGA Amateur points from a romantic point of view...I luv em and can't get enough!! :cool:

So is the Am points title comming to Wisconsin with my buddy Monroy Gowens at 6180 pts.????? :o:o

Go Monroy! :eek: :eek:

So is the Am points title comming to Wisconsin with my buddy Monroy Gowens at 6180 pts.????? :o:o



Possibly, yes.

That is until the last batch of tournies are calculated...

you got a few extra coming eh Conners? ;)

Just one tournament has not been processed...we will see how it plays out.

So did Chad's points get erased? Does anybody know what happened and if it is finalized?

I know Mike Robinson has inquired with the PDGA, as most everyone knows if you email the PDGA you may or may not get a reply :confused:

Chad accepted $793 in Pro cash this season -AFTER- accumulating a butt load of points. Mike accepted a total of $80. Both of these guys were killing the entire AM field in points, maybe Chad and Mike accepted cash cuz they were not serious about the points title...a lot of people could care or less about points.

Im pretty sure they were both going after it, and didnt know that playing pro and accepting wipes out their points. Mike can probably clarify.

If that is the case, I'd be kicking myself right now :mad:

yeah, we both were going for the points title. We said we'd start playing open when one of us had the title wrapped up. We both thought the am points stayed after you took cash. D. Gentry said he'd get back to us on that situation after the new year. So we'll know then.

Maybe the rationale for the Rookie Season rule could be applied by analogy to the amateur season points obelisk where the player has brought it to the PDGA's attention?

In other words, 2005 is not your year of eligibility for Pro Rookie of the Year honors because you turned pro after Worlds. That's the Rookie Season Rule. The reason for the rule is so you don't have to wait four more months for going pro to avoid scruwing yourself out of a chance for a cool trophy. By the same rationale, when the PDGA knows there is this am out there who was leading the Am points thing after Worlds and went pro, he should still be eligible for the am points award, or otherwise he has to wait another four more months before turning pro.

It all boils down to ACCEPTING the cash...I'm sure the PDGA has some sort of rule in place for these type of circumstances.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL BAGGERS!!!! :D

Happy Holidays you baggin' mullets.

I see Mills bagged and played a couple more adv. tourneys
Monroy all the way good luck in pro buddy I'll enjoy taking your money as I'm sure Cobus is. Too bad MI baggers will not see any of your money, :eek:

What happend to monroys points?

Might want to ask Dave Gentry, I would reccommend calling him rather than email.

Chad isn't able to get on the board for whatever reason, but here's Dave Gentry's response to the question at hand:


Chad,

You are still eligible for end of year awards. We have a problem created by
"Pros playing Am" that we are working hard to fix. Hopefully this can be
resolved in the next week but don't worry your points will be restored.

David Gentry
PDGA Tour Manager

Well I'm glad for whoever wins it then. If you were trying for it, it would be bitter to win it and then lose it because you decided to quit bagging and move up! Whoever gets it, it will always remind him of a lot of good times the year he drove all over the country playing A-tiers, meeting new people and all.

Does this mean I can accept cash in a tournament next month and for the rest of the season play Advanced to gain AM points? This makes no sense :confused: if this is the way the PDGA handles AM points this means I can play pro and not worry about my AM points going away.

Cool, thanks for clarification.

No, it means that if you rack up enough points this month to win the obelisk and accept cash next month, you remain eligible. Once you take pro cash, you quit accumulating am points.

Because of database programming problems the PDGA was not tracking that automatically. Pros playing in amateur divisions, like Sarah Demar playing Men's Rec, were still earning amateur points even after they took pro cash.

I'm pretty sure the 05' season is over for accumulating points, Bruce.

That's all I needed to know, I'm playing some pro events this year while racking up AM points again....Hah, this is great!!

I'm pretty sure you aren't understanding a word i'm saying so I'm giving up trying to explain it to you. Have fun, whatever you do!

Try not to be a tool, whatever you do.

Bruce, I always have fun...you must be a cranky old man.

Quote: Pros rated < 955 may compete in select amateur divisions at PDGA events, for which they qualify.Points are not awarded to Pros playing AM.

Taken off the 2005 PDGA Tour Divisions, Ratings & Point Factors Table.

Take cash at a sanctioned event, playing Pro and your AM career is over, unless your <955, which right now you are, but you get no points.

Very cranky. Very old.

Congrats go out to Chad, great job this season...you should fare well in the Open division.

I wonder if they ever put Devan and I back in the <16 division? :confused:

Better check before the PDGA tallies up the points and gives the obelisk to someone else....You should call Dave Gentry, do not attempt to email him cuz you might get let down :o

Hey Conners I was reading the new DGWN..... NICE TATTOO!!! ;)

I can't believe you did that, ****** BAG!!