Congrats David to getting into Team Innova. I am very glad you were the next person to be able to be signed. Hope to see ya sometime and can't wait to play some more rounds with ya!!!! :D

there's a superb player re-emerging in the western kentucky area. always a threat on the advanced masters lead card in EVERY tournament he plays, ernie small is by far the best candidate for team innova. no one has any idea of how powerful and dominant of a golfer this retired psychologist is, but believe me when i say that this man truly puts the "GA!!!" in gazelle. coming to a course near you, ern dog will simply "dog" all of the competition with his breathtaking 200' cobra shots, impressive thumber rollin' rhynos and most of all his RIDICULOUS luck. too bad he putts exclusively with SOFT MAGNETS???

A 935 golfer being signed to Innova?

Don't think so.

ernie small is by far the best candidate for team innova.



By far?, Hmmmm maybe a little bias? I am the "Hottest golfer not sponsored" according to MS World Rankings...Everyone ahead of me is a sponsored player.

Time for TanK to get a little love...

Plus, Innova wants people that travel and play tournies and to be a face out there. I played 4 more santioned tournies last year, 25, than he has in the past 7 years...

This year will be more....

Did I mention, I plan on winning Worlds?

ernie small is by far the best candidate for team innova.



By far?, Hmmmm maybe a little bias? I am the "Hottest golfer not sponsored" according to MS World Rankings...Everyone ahead of me is a sponsored player.

Time for TanK to get a little love...



Yeah but the rankings are biased towards big events. You can be way up on the list with only one event.

I know Matty-O, we're not counting my 2 wins either. by the end of April, I will have 15 tournies in already...

I know Matty-O, we're not counting my 2 wins either. by the end of April, I will have 15 tournies in already...



That's a lot of events big fella. :DThe reason the ranking system is iffy with me is that the field size is such a huge factor. I took 3rd at a b-tier this weekend but dropped on the list because the two guys that beat me were ranked and the other guys don't count.

Funny, I took 3rd a B teir this weekend too...

I'm not sure exactly how it works, but to me it seems that if you take care of business, you move up; otherwise, you don't. Sounds pretty fair to me.

Funny, I took 3rd a B teir this weekend too...



You keep shooting rounds like the 47 at Pickard it won't be long....That was a smokin score

yeah, you been doing real good these days, Franks. Real good.

Thanks Kevin and Matt, Avery really worked with my driving this last winter and I'm feeling very good this year...

The Innova team page has been updated finally.
http://www.innovadiscs.com/team/index.html

How do I get on team scout as an advanced player. How did Billy get on there? I am going to turn pro after am worlds. If I win am worlds do I have a chance? I was just wondering.

How come Steve Brinster's Player Gear and Division are from Angela Tschiggfrie's page?

thanks for catching that, bigs, a lot of pages to update and change all at once. I imagine there are more little errors. I am positive Steve is not playing Pro Womens this year. updated.

Matt

The captions for Brinster's pictures when you click on them say "Angela" at...

THIS IS A JOKE GOOD SIRS! i'm just poking fun at my goofy old man.

Weird to see Jernigan on the scout team when he earned more than many of the innova sponsored men.

yea they also have mine and Moser's info half combined

It could be that he switched to Discraft for a short time. :confused:

It could be that he switched to Discraft for a short time. :confused:


exactly.

How do I get on team scout as an advanced player. How did Billy get on there? I am going to turn pro after am worlds. If I win am worlds do I have a chance? I was just wondering.



Have you seen that sick video (http://www.foilfreaks.com/Misc/Billy-BnC-7-7-04.wmv) on Billy's scout page?

That ball and chain receives an unofficial rating of 1088!!!

:eek:

The fact that Innova has JJ who has won a super tour in open and finished 2nd in an NT in open and has cashed at every USDGC he has played (inlcuding being the only person to ever deny cash in the event) and won an am worlds by 19 strokes on the same team with someone who has never finished higher than 3rd in advanced should answer everyones question when they ask me "why do you not want to sponsored by Innova?"

Like you see in that video, he is a world class hydrofoiler (and kneeboarder too). I think his experience will carry over in a way that will benefit Innova: He has the drive (pun intended), physical tools, and mind to be a top player; and (he mentioned this to me this morning) is that he has ideas on how to use his experience and exposure from his "fame"/reputation (my word, not his) in that niche to help grow the sport of DG into new areas.

How many times has INNOVA asked to sponsor you MTL?

How many times has INNOVA asked to sponsor you MTL?



Innova has not contacted me, nor have I contacted them

I am pretty vocal in my desire to not be sponsored by one of the three disc companies, that is what I was referring to.

Why would you deny Gateway or Discraft, and how many times have they asked to sponsor you?

I have talked more with Gateway than anyone.

I at one point was briefly talking with Discraft too.

I just do not want to be limited in what discs I throw. I hear too many Innova players talk about how much they wish they had the Buzzz and the Wizard and I hear too many Discraft players talk about missing the Roc and the Teebird.

Not being sponsored, I have the option to throw any disc I so choose, and I personally like it that way. Not saying that my decision is by any means the majority, in fact it is the extreme minority, but it is just what I feel is best for me.

Like you see in that video, he is a world class hydrofoiler (and kneeboarder too). I think his experience will carry over in a way that will benefit Innova: He has the drive (pun intended), physical tools, and mind to be a top player; and (he mentioned this to me this morning) is that he has ideas on how to use his experience and exposure from his "fame"/reputation (my word, not his) in that niche to help grow the sport of DG into new areas.



That is awesome :D. I was just asking. So I'll get back to you when I turn pro.

The fact that Innova has JJ who has won a super tour in open and finished 2nd in an NT in open and has cashed at every USDGC he has played (inlcuding being the only person to ever deny cash in the event) and won an am worlds by 19 strokes on the same team with someone who has never finished higher than 3rd in advanced should answer everyones question when they ask me "why do you not want to sponsored by Innova?"



1st, I'd like to say that I like JJ.
With that being said,... MTL, IF YOU were to sponsor a player and they left you for a competitor, then came back, Would you be just a little bit worried he might just leave again? Maybe, (this is just conjecture on my part) Innova is just testing the waters, so to speak. Like a trial run, just to see if he will stay around, then maybe they'll move him up. I think he's pretty lucky that Innova took him back. Hopefully, everything will work out for the best.

He is my Roc throwing Idol. He never should have left. He should give Harold a hug. :D

Just in case, Innova, if your watching these boards, Thats 3 wins this month for TanK.

With my last one this last weekend in a 2 hole playoff over one of Discrafts' finest, Mr. Cale Leiviska...

Watch for it on DGTV, coming to a PC near you...

Just thought I would throw that out there...

Long like the Max!

Nice shootin, other Kenny.

Where was it? No results yet?
Congrats.

Gotta give Tank prop's. The tourney had some mad wind. It took some serious golf to win it this past weekend.

Dont forget to add flip cup to your resume' tank...O6 Usdgc flip cup champions!!!

Tank, if you move back home, the sponsorship will follow! :D

It was in Lamoni Iowa, They take forever to post results...

Thanks Joe, That was the windiest I have ever played in. God bless the Max

Flip cup champions is right. We must revisit that this year. No more Yeti as the anchor though, ;o)

I am still contimplating the move back home my man, I sure miss the queen city and Hornets in my back yard.

Patience my friend...

I know of the newest addition to the team...

I know of the newest addition to the team...



Does his name rhyme with Fen Kranks? :D

Nice shootin, other Kenny.

Where was it? No results yet?
Congrats.



http://pdga.com/tournament/tournament_re...eRatings=1#Open (http://pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6838&year=2007&incl udeRatings=1#Open)

This guy? (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=2607)

Nice shootin, other Kenny.

Where was it? No results yet?
Congrats.



http://pdga.com/tournament/tournament_re...eRatings=1#Open (http://pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6838&year=2007&incl udeRatings=1#Open)


Wow, those are some seriously crappy payouts for a B-tier of that size! Congrats on the win other-Kenny.

Nice shootin, other Kenny.

Where was it? No results yet?
Congrats.



http://pdga.com/tournament/tournament_re...eRatings=1#Open (http://pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6838&year=2007&incl udeRatings=1#Open)



THose results look like a doubles tourney with all those ties.

Nice win! Beating a top player like that must feel good. Did you park a Max for the win?

No, I used the Max to finish par-par-par-par-par, when everyone else was going bogey-double bogey-par-bogey-bogey...

The D-craft guys were flipping brand new Preds, OB, into that 40mph heady. The Max released nice and flat carring 400+, INBOUNDS...

It was so windy, I was laying up from 30-35 feet with a Champion Firechicken and setting in my AVIAR to get all my pars...

I won't tell you how the playoff went, I'll won't ruin for you guys that will watch it on DGTV.com.. It was suspenseful tho...

I agree, I wasn't happy with the payouts either... 31 pros at 57 bux a head...thought I should've brought home at least 5 hungy

http://pdga.com/tournament/tournament_re...eRatings=1#Open (http://pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6838&year=2007&incl udeRatings=1#Open)



Looks like the tournament director or whoever uploaded those tournament results didn't know how to add course layouts into the PDGA Live Tournament Administration so that par would be correct. Looks like SSA was around 60 in the first round at the first course and 63.5 in the second round at the other course.

Did an Advanced player really a shoot a score in the first round from the same tees as the Pros that was two strokes better than the best Pro score?!?

No, I used the Max to finish par-par-par-par-par, when everyone else was going bogey-double bogey-par-bogey-bogey...

The D-craft guys were flipping brand new Preds, OB, into that 40mph heady. The Max released nice and flat carring 400+, INBOUNDS...

It was so windy, I was laying up from 30-35 feet with a Champion Firechicken and setting in my AVIAR to get all my pars...

I won't tell you how the playoff went, I'll won't ruin for you guys that will watch it on DGTV.com.. It was suspenseful tho...



Your lucky no G-way guys were there because they can throw big s-shots into the wind at least 420'.

Did an Advanced player really a shoot a score in the first round from the same tees as the Pros that was two strokes better than the best Pro score?!?



yeah, I don't think the wind was as bad as when we (pros) played it.

Tanner was throwing the Spirit all day with 5 degree anhyser...

I belive the accurate statement was, "Gateway's lucky they didnt send a rep to lose to a non-sponsored golfer..."

No, I used the Max to finish par-par-par-par-par, when everyone else was going bogey-double bogey-par-bogey-bogey...

The D-craft guys were flipping brand new Preds, OB, into that 40mph heady. The Max released nice and flat carring 400+, INBOUNDS...

It was so windy, I was laying up from 30-35 feet with a Champion Firechicken and setting in my AVIAR to get all my pars...

I won't tell you how the playoff went, I'll won't ruin for you guys that will watch it on DGTV.com.. It was suspenseful tho...



Your lucky no G-way guys were there because they can throw big s-shots into the wind at least 420'.



Hey now, I was there... there was no going 420 into these winds. Inferno with the tailwinds are a different story.

try 4 shots better than the Open hot round... but they had substantually less wind....

15-18 mph in the morning, 25-40 mph in the afternoon...

No, I used the Max to finish par-par-par-par-par, when everyone else was going bogey-double bogey-par-bogey-bogey...

The D-craft guys were flipping brand new Preds, OB, into that 40mph heady. The Max released nice and flat carring 400+, INBOUNDS...

It was so windy, I was laying up from 30-35 feet with a Champion Firechicken and setting in my AVIAR to get all my pars...

I won't tell you how the playoff went, I'll won't ruin for you guys that will watch it on DGTV.com.. It was suspenseful tho...



Your lucky no G-way guys were there because they can throw big s-shots into the wind at least 420'.



Hey now, I was there... there was no going 420 into these winds. Inferno with the tailwinds are a different story.



Nothing like Pleasure Island last year! I could get 200ft if I was luck into the headwinds and that was with the most overstable Speed demon I have ever thrown.

Tanner was throwing the Spirit all day with 5 degree anhyser...

I belive the accurate statement was, "Gateway's lucky they didnt send a rep to lose to a non-sponsored golfer..."



<font color="red"> </font> BURN!! (Kelso's voice)

Oh Ya, sorry Mikey, I forgot about you brotha...I guess one of my favorite Gateway sponsored guys were there....

and If Mike tells you, "Theres no throwing 420 out there", than's theres not.

If you guys haven't ever seen MDR throw a disc, your missing out, He's a freak!

Oh Ya, sorry Mikey, I forgot about you brotha...I guess one of my favorite Gateway sponsored guys were there....

and If Mike tells you, "Theres no throwing 420 out there", than's theres not.

If you guys haven't ever seen MDR throw a disc, your missing out, He's a freak!



Agreed! :D

Yea that crazy MF put his drive up on the hill on this hole (http://www.local101dg.com/Toboggan-hole13.htm) in 2005.

Yea that crazy MF put his drive up on the hill on this hole (http://www.local101dg.com/Toboggan-hole13.htm) in 2005.



Do you mean on top of the hill? That hole is listed at 505 feet and looks like about 200' to the base of the hill and then another 300' up the hill and back to the edge of the woods where the polehole is.

This guy? (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=2607)



??? :D

Yea that crazy MF put his drive up on the hill on this hole (http://www.local101dg.com/Toboggan-hole13.htm) in 2005.



Do you mean on top of the hill? That hole is listed at 505 feet and looks like about 200' to the base of the hill and then another 300' up the hill and back to the edge of the woods where the polehole is.



Yessir. We were teeing on the next hole, and we heard a "fore" and laughed, because obviously noone could make it to top. He did.

MDR?

That's sick to get one even halfway up that hill. especially when you are wiped out after hiking the tobog. I managed some good drives and never got a 3. that hole kicked my butt once I got on the hill. May deceptive to figure out where to throw your second shot... that and I swear I hit these 2 skinny poles on my upshots.

Yea that crazy MF put his drive up on the hill on this hole (http://www.local101dg.com/Toboggan-hole13.htm) in 2005.



Do you mean on top of the hill? That hole is listed at 505 feet and looks like about 200' to the base of the hill and then another 300' up the hill and back to the edge of the woods where the polehole is.



Yessir. We were teeing on the next hole, and we heard a "fore" and laughed, because obviously noone could make it to top. He did.

MDR?



Yeah, I still remember the shot, only because someone on your card yelled, "Are you serious!?"

Still makes me laugh.

So when did you turn all gateway mike?

So when did you turn all gateway mike?



Since the beginning of this year.

Ken Franks!!!!!!! Playing lights out, one of the top 10 putters I have ever seen, and taking down the best in the midwest.

WOW...Thanks AO for the compliment.

It means alot...

I work hard on it, everyday...

WOW...Thanks AO for the compliment.

It means alot...

I work hard on it, everyday...



Team Unemployment kicks [censored]....ahhh, I miss those days.

Team Unemployment kicks [censored]....ahhh, I miss those days.



Don't you have some work to do Tanner? ;)

I keep waiting to see your post about being on the team tank..

Patience is a virtue, my fellow FriZZbee Flicker...

hey tank...you might as well just go ahead and qualify at the DGLo so you could head east to the ZZ open...Good times guaranteed. No joke...It is kept real out here...previous offer still stands...

Thanks bro, I appreciate the offer, I don't know who I'll be on the road with than, but I will definately keep it in mind...

You should IM me your number...

ps. I don't plan on leaving the Majestic without the DGCQ... ;)

Dallas Albright #31173 has cashed all 7 events he played. 7th place was his worst finish yet. This is his second year playing open, never played advanced. Has one of the best thumbers out there.This kid has just a tiny bit of talent. Oh yeah, he's tied for third in the Masters Cup right now! NORCAL!!

yeah, who is he? he just started playing and, in one of what seems like the toughest regions, is cashing every time, and big! How do you just start out on top like that? Crazy!

He doesn't travel outside of California to play!

Dallas is the real deal. I was in the group behind him yesterday and got (had) to watch on a couple of holes. He's super smooth a solid putter and can match the big guns shot for shot. If he keeps up this rate of improvement, Cali's gonna have another top 10 player.

I am the 1000th view here...

Just wanted to share that...

I am the 1000th view here...

Just wanted to share that...



you left out a zero... :D

Dallas is the real deal. I was in the group behind him yesterday and got (had) to watch on a couple of holes. He's super smooth a solid putter and can match the big guns shot for shot. If he keeps up this rate of improvement, Cali's gonna have another top 10 player.



I must have jinxed him. At least I got to play with him though. Great player and easy to play with. I look forward to going up to Ukiah and trying out the three courses they have up there.

Next playa...

Start throwing Discraft TanK! :)

how do you get on innova scout team (http://www.innovadiscs.com/team/scout.html#wally)???

win am worlds by a record 19 strokes, win a super tour, finish 2nd in an NT, only miss cash once in pro career, be the only person to ever deny cash at USDGC.

That seems to work.

or win your junior division at worlds by 99 strokes... TWICE! And have a few world records under your belt...

you left out quit the team and move to discraft, come back to innova.

that seems to work beTTer

that is definetly how you get on the "Scout Team" /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I tied a player on the scout team this past weekend at the Virginia Open. Does that mean I'm good enough to be on the team???? :eek: :confused: :eek:

And speaking of the Virginia Open, Innova needs to take a look at Nick Schneider...

And speaking of the Virginia Open, Innova needs to take a look at Nick Schneider and jacob loper



agreed
/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif





lol

i had a long time top pro last weekend tell me nick has the "best backhand (he) has ever seen"

win am worlds by a record 19 strokes, win a super tour, finish 2nd in an NT, only miss cash once in pro career, be the only person to ever deny cash at USDGC.

That seems to work.





you left out quit the team and move to discraft, come back to innova.



Those were business decisions. LOL. :D

Next playa...


Congrats, Sjur!

Sjur has been on the team 4 a year

TTrue...but thanks nonetheless....

Mr. LaGrassa, don't jump to erroneous conclusions without knowing the facts.

First of all, I uploaded the results, and I know exactly what I'm doing. The wind was blowing anywhere from 20 to 50 mph that day, so the courses were playing unbelievably tough.

I didn't bother uploading the par, because frankly, I just wanted to get the results up, it's not my event, I was doing a favor for the TD, and I had limited free time to do so. Secondly, there aren't that many true par 4s on these courses....the conditions were just THAT brutal.

Lastly, the conditions were much more difficult in round 2 than in round one. Average sustained winds in round 1 were about 18-20 mph, with gusts up to 30 mph. Round 2 saw averages sustained winds at 30mph, with gusts up to 55mph.

Actually, that 55 (at Graceland University) was FOUR strokes better than the best Open score on the same course. The Advanced played Graceland in the morning, pros played it in the afternoon in much tougher conditions as previously stated.

Chap

My bet is Ken Franks.

MC

though i made a really funny post about my dad, ernie small, a while ago about getting picked up by innova, i now know the most eligible candidate for the team. ken franks definitely deserves a shot. though i've still never seen the guy play, results don't lie. keep it up franks, i feel that it'll come very soon with the kind of year you're having.

http://www.pdga.com/stats.php

My bet is Ken Franks.

MC



Matt - that like betting on a race after it's over. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Ken announced his Innova sponsorship earlier on Nebdisc.

I was contacted by Sam Ferrans last weekend and was offered a spot and Team Innova's scout team and accepted. Next update, 1000+ rating and hopefully make the Sponsored Team.

Thanks for all the love guys and gal. It's really gratifying to see my hard work pay off. It's good to check off another '07 goal ( final 9 in a Supertour and join Innova).

Now onto top 25 at my first ever World's.

Thanks to all my Team Star and Team Champion friends, even some Discraft "Z" team members that called innova, that are in my corner that backed me up, You all know who you ARE!

Congratulations.

Thanks to all my Team Star and Team Champion friends, even some Discraft "Z" team members that called innova, that are in my corner that backed me up, You all know who you ARE!



AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO!

You da man, Tank...a sponsored man!!! :cool:

Way to go TanK!!! It's about time they figured it out! You deserve it D O double G!

YEAH! CONGRATS! good luck at worlds!

Thanks to all my Team Star and Team Champion friends, even some Discraft "Z" team members that called Innova, that are in my corner that backed me up, You all know who you ARE!



AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO!



;)

Thanks everybody...

time to update the sig line! :D

Congrats Tank!!! Hey werent you sitting at my computer when you got this wonderful news??? I may not know how to play very well but **** I do know how to host the best players in the world!!!

Welcome to the ranks Ken!

Congrats Tank!!! Hey werent you sitting at my computer when you got this wonderful news??? I may not know how to play very well but **** I do know how to host the best players in the world!!!



Yes you do MF MillZ, Your a great host!

Thats again for putting us all up for the DGLO. Tell your mom, again, thanks for putting up with a bunch of disc golfers and I look forward to her cooking, again...

PS. Did I leave my USDGC invite at your house?

PS. Did I leave my USDGC invite at your house?




DOH! :D

How picky is picky. It can't be just on ratings . how'd u do it.

Congrats Tank!!! Hey werent you sitting at my computer when you got this wonderful news??? I may not know how to play very well but **** I do know how to host the best players in the world!!!



Yes you do MF MillZ, Your a great host!

Thats again for putting us all up for the DGLO. Tell your mom, again, thanks for putting up with a bunch of disc golfers and I look forward to her cooking, again...

PS. Did I leave my USDGC invite at your house?



Not that I have found but if you did im filling it out and sending it in as my own!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Im sure your new sponsor can find a way to get you in :D:D:D

I expect Innova to pick up Nicole Frazer soon -- she already throws all Innova plastic and should be in contention for Rookie of the Year...

Congrats Tank! :D

I think they need to give some serious consideration to "Roady", Eric Roadhouse. He's won 2 NTs in masters and has won some open tourneys too.
Roady's stats (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=10017&amp;year=2007)

I think they need to give some serious consideration to "The Terminator", Dallas Albright #31173. He went from playing at our local courses ( Ukiah, Ca ) to skipping all divisions and jumping right in to pro tournys this year and is doing well.
Hes a Young (22) year old from NORCAL innova throwing discgolfer. Kid is poor but good and needs to get a sponsor. He even once was on the street with a sign that said "will work for new plastic" because he couldnt afford a new innova disc.

How long has that guy been playing? I seen that he took second to Anthon by one stroke...pretty impressive.

He hasn't been playing for much longer than four or five years. In the PDGA about two years. He's the top sixty rating wise right now, and he's not slowing down! If Innova sponsored him, I am sure he would tear it up on tour.

Shaolintrained, Jumpin Jonah is right. Dallas Albright #31173 has been playing for about 4/5 years and started playing tournys just recently. "If Innova sponsored him, I am sure he would tear it up on tour. "

Dallas Albright #31173

Marshall Street Pro ratings (6/26/07)
http://www.marshallstreetdiscgolf.com/discgolfinfo_ranking_2007.html
Ranked #35

2007 Marshall Street Player of the Year
http://www.marshallstreetdiscgolf.com/discgolfinfo_ranking_6.html
Ranked #22

PDGA Pro Open rating (national)
http://www.pdga.com/player_ratings.php?offset=10&amp;division=MPO&amp;order=ra ting
Ranked #54

PDGA Pro Open rating (califorina)
http://www.pdga.com/player_ratings.php
Ranked #10

On PDGA's last rating update(6/26) PDGA did not factor in 3 current tournys That he has placed. The tournys are

12th Annual KOA Pro/Am Jam (B) Willits, CA Sat-Sun, Jun 2-3, 2007
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6530#Open
PLACE = 1st

5th Annual "Steady Ed" Birthday Memorial (B) Lakeport, CA Sat-Sun, Jun 9-10, 2007
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6748#Open
PLACE = 3rd

King of the Lake (C) S. Lake Tahoe, CA Sat, Jun 23, 2007
http://www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=6661
PLACE = 1st

on the Norcalseries tour his place (not up to date)
http://www.norcalseries.com/2007/points.htm
Place = 3rd

LOL! Dallas, when did you learn how to use the internet? :D

I agree though. Dallas would make a great addition to the Innova team. I dare anyone to challenge his thumber. :D

I DARE

:D I knew you would comment on that one Schweb. :D

Here is the ultimate thumber showing!!! Billy Crump........Schweby..........My boy KT and maybe this Dallas kid but id love to see those 4 in a thumber contest!!!

Tank...you coming to Osky this weekend?

I got a big one as well boyz....

No Joe, I'm heading to Norfolk for the Big Bang Boom, of course after Roger Waters tonight.

Good Times had by all...

^bump

^bump


??

Monty Koz--ex-pro catcher, lives in Denver...will out throw anyone with a thumber; guarenteed (Discraft only)

And Jeff Layland 1010 rating...can throw 500 with 2 steps; got offered a spot on Innova's scout team a few days ago..

Just a little CO update

Monty Koz will out throw anyone with a thumber; guarenteed (Discraft only)



Is that because your scared of one of Innovas finest, Schwebby?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/191/452241344_d1f876468b_m.jpg

Im not Monty...I just wanted to state he was a Discraft man being this is an Innova thread...I thought it would insight an interesting response...and it did. I got nothing but love but for the dark side (Innova).

Also curious if your going to be at Call to Arms? I'm an Omahan born and raised and was thinking about coming back and seeing if I can throw discs at sea level. Is Hummel really getting a course or is that rumor???

Im not Monty...I just wanted to state he was a Discraft man being this is an Innova thread...I thought it would insight an interesting response...and it did. I got nothing but love but for the dark side (Innova).

Also curious if your going to be at Call to Arms? I'm an Omahan born and raised and was thinking about coming back and seeing if I can throw discs at sea level. Is Hummel really getting a course or is that rumor???



Ya, I will be at the 14th annual ACTA. You should definately come east for it and bring some friends. You will enjoy how DG is changing here in Omaha and surrounding areas.

Actually, Hummel is one of our next option sites for a new course, We are in the final stages of installing a new course in Bellevue at Jewell park also.

I'm impressed. Sound like you did a little homework :D

I actually ran into Aaron Martin at the High Plains Challenge and we chatted a little...I also get on the nebdisc web site every now and then. Congrats also!! even though I don't live there anymore or know you, Its good to see some Omaha love coming down finally...

A local blaster Jeff Layland from out here also just got offered a spot on Innova's scout team and the next day Monty Koz the thumber maniac got offered a Discraft spot

I have played a bunch of rounds with Monty Koz...Koz's thumber is more accurate than it is long...he even prefers thumbers for most upshots. "Koz golf" as he puts it is: 300' thumber off the tee, low 150' thumber to the pin, tap out...pretty effective at generating pars and getting the birdies that are reachable with a thumber. I haven't seen Schweb's thumber but I have seen a few people with comparable thumber distance to Koz (myself included). Koz sure wins for accuracy with it though. Thread drift...

Remembering the actual thread topic, Innova's website says they sponsor top "regional pros"...what does this mean, and are there any examples people can think of? Seems like they mostly just sponsor the best players, location irrelevant...I just made it to 1000 and being from Montana I'm sure I'd count as a top "regional" pro, but probably wouldn't be considered for Innova if I lived in an area with better disc golf...just curious.

I'm a top regional player. Sorta.

Monty Koz will out throw anyone with a thumber; guarenteed (Discraft only)



Is that because your scared of one of Innovas finest, Schwebby?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/191/452241344_d1f876468b_m.jpg

Alot of people throw thumbers farther than me but most do not use it in as amny different ways that I do. I will go accuracy in the woods against anybody, probably even with my eyes closed.

<font color="blue"> "best TThumber in the WORLD"

-BC- </font>

BC son...

Wow...I don't really care who can throw thumbers better. I just through that in there b/c he and Jeff got offered sponsorships b/c that is what this thread is about. I'm not surprised at all that you can throw a better thumber; you are a world class player,hes been playing for 3 years; I am proud of you. Also I wouldn't really brag too much about the easiest shot to throw in all of disc golf anyways...I have a 11 year old cousin that can throw a thumber 400 feet.

Monty Koz will out throw anyone with a thumber; guarenteed (Discraft only)



Is that because your scared of one of Innovas finest, Schwebby?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/191/452241344_d1f876468b_m.jpg



I've played with both Koz and Schwebby...

Yes, Schwebby is the best thumber in the world.

I honestly think that Billy Crump is the most accurate and I really think that Koz can throw it farther than schweb, but Schweb is by far the best combination of the two.

Wow...I don't really care who can throw thumbers better. I just through that in there b/c he and Jeff got offered sponsorships b/c that is what this thread is about. I'm not surprised at all that you can throw a better thumber; you are a world class player,hes been playing for 3 years; I am proud of you. Also I wouldn't really brag too much about the easiest shot to throw in all of disc golf anyways...I have a 11 year old cousin that can throw a thumber 400 feet.


if its so easy why arent more players throwing it, and why do so many people get mad when we approach a thumber hole. And BTW, the hyzer is the easiest shot in DG

Maybe ya'll should read my posts...I never said he had the best thumber in the World, just the farthest. You guys are really looking for an arguement and I just don't give a **** :)

400 foot thumber by an 11 year old?!?!?!?! Thats some [edited due to profanity] if I ever heard any!!!!

your right...its more like 390. Oh and sorry, he's 11 and a half not 11

You may want to give that boy a football instead....

He's an amazing pitcher. He'll be in 7th grade coming up is already throwing near 70

your right...its more like 390. Oh and sorry, he's 11 and a half not 11



I'd have to see it to believe something like that. Thats freakish if its true, but it just sounds like a gross exaggeration to me...

I am guessing it was probably a 400 ft wind aided, downhill thumber, that happened once.


either way I bet the kid can't putt, otherwise he would have been winning tournaments by now. throwing far means nothing if you miss the 15 footer for birdie(god do I know this)

Well with all this discussion about thumbers and tommy's i think they should just have an overhand distance competition without epics. That way we can see who has the best thumber or tommahawk.

Distance does not define the best TThumber or Tomahawk.

Schweby how far have you thrown a thumber??? AND, what disc do you throw for a thumber? Firebird???

I have thrown over 400 a couple times. But for basic thumbers and wooded thumber shots I use a Firebird and a Leopeard , both Champion. I have been experimenting with the Stae Whippet X and it is definitely going farther with much more ease than my Firebirds. At least 20 more feet.

but is the whippet as accurate?

Out in the open yes, but not in the woods

And BTW, the hyzer is the easiest shot in DG



correction- the easiest shot in DG is the airball :confused:

Out in the open yes, but not in the woods



is that because you need a wider "line" to throw it?

btw... i have gone to the thumber for hole 6 at HH now. ;)

Out in the open yes, but not in the woods



is that because you need a wider "line" to throw it?

btw... i have gone to the thumber for hole 6 at HH now. ;)

Correct Mr Biscoe, it takes a long time for it to pan out. Hole 6 at TThe Hollow is a perfect TThumber hole. Has anybody aced iTT but me yet?

nope, just you, only 3 aces to date at HH, 2 on hole 1 and yours.

...and jay gobrecht's 3 on hole 7 which is as good as an ace.

Out in the open yes, but not in the woods



is that because you need a wider "line" to throw it?

btw... i have gone to the thumber for hole 6 at HH now. ;)

Correct Mr Biscoe, it takes a long time for it to pan out. Hole 6 at TThe Hollow is a perfect TThumber hole. Has anybody aced iTT but me yet?



it really is.

Even I throw a thumber on it.

<font color="blue"> "best TThumber in the WORLD"

-BC- </font>

Any new signings after USDGC?

There was a rumor of a top Dcraft Pro switching, but I did not get that confirmed...

yeah well drop some name daemon

someone should pick up on Koontz

There was a rumor of a top Dcraft Pro switching, but I did not get that confirmed...



Cam Todd...re-switching back??? :eek:

NOTE: Prior to reading this post please familiarize yourself with the little emoticons some of you hate so much. This MAY prevent needless confusion and rumor mongering. Or not. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



There was a rumor of a top Dcraft Pro switching, but I did not get that confirmed...



Cam Todd...re-switching back??? :eek:



I heard it was Nate Doss.... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif ;) :D :D

My 8 year old got signed to Innova scout team after winning Am Worlds. He's also a World record holder for distance and already hit his first ace. He doesn't have much of a thumber though! He'll be one to watch for!

Nice! I saw the ace article in DGWN. Congratulations to you and Nick.

Thanks, he'll be playing in Las Vegas in a couple of weeks then Phx Halloween Classic, then the So. Cal Championships in Nov.at La Mirada. California will be his 30th tournament in 3 years! Wow, and he's only 8!

i can confirm that geoff bennett did not switch and is still rockin' the big D.

There was a rumor of a top Dcraft Pro switching, but I did not get that confirmed...



hmm... sounds fishy to me ; /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

i can confirm that geoff bennett did not switch and is still rockin' the big D.



Did you have him arrested and interrogated?

nope. I'm sure you read on the EMDG site that i actually saved someone from arrest this past weekend. maybe rooster has changed his ways?

Kris Orrick or Will Schusterick

Kris Orrick or Will Schusterick



Will Schusterick will definitely be a real contender for the top titles in a few years. I play with his dad at tournaments sometimes, but talk to Will in between rounds and he's a really cool kid.

Also, whenever Blair Bose goes pro in a few years he'll be a tough player as well. He transitioned to advance after winning the Rocket City Super Tournament, and he is always a threat to any player at a tournemtn.

And I have to say my friend Justin Moore will be a huge threat when he goes pro after next years BG Ams. His stats are amazing. Check them out here! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php)

Although when he goes pro he'll more than likely go for Discraft sponsorship since that is mainly what he throws, but who knows?

Blair and Will are both cool kids. I remember a year and a half ago watching them play in Intermediate at BG Ams. I believe someone from my area asked Will for his autograph and told him it'd be worth something one day, Will said it was the first time he'd ever been asked for an autograph. :)

With the way his rating has rocketed up I have a feeling he's going to make it worth something one day in disc circles.

If Nate Doss signed with Innova, that'd be a huge hit for Discraft...

It's me as of about twenty minutes ago...

posted by Dave D

Frank did real well at USDGC and showed he has the right stuff. I imagine he will be moved up as soon as Sam Ferrans can get to it.

He technically was moved up at USDGC, but our site doesn't show it because we are still getting the profile information.



<font color="blue"> YEAH TTANK!!!</font>

It's me as of about twenty minutes ago...



Team Champion already? Nice work.

I'm pretty sure "innova champion" is just the name of the company...

uhm no they have multiple levels of sponsorship
Team champion star
team champion
sponsored
scout
you not having won a worlds or the USDGC will probably be on sponsored w/ the likes of jay yeti reading, JoJo, JJ and a whole host of other great golfers congratualtions!!

If Nate Doss signed with Innova, that'd be a huge hit for Discraft...



The guy won 2 world titles with Discraft.

Him leaving would be stupid.

Innova picks up the phone saying "Innova Champion." Everyone who's sponsored by innova thanks "Innova Champion," including people who are on Team Star...you've never heard anyone thank "Innova Scout," have you? The name of the company is Innova Champion Discs. Of COURSE they have multiple levels of sponsorship, and as an inexperienced and newly sponsored player I'll be starting at the bottom of the ladder (and rightly so...I wouldn't have a shot at being "champion" of the scout team!) What, like I didn't know that Innova has different levels of sponsorship?

Welcome to the team Christian.

Congrats!!

Congrats to Ken "Tank" Franks for making Team Innova!

I second that,never met Tank but I think he deserves to be on Team Champion and earned his way there playing some good golf here lately especially at the USDGC.Congrats Tank!

Count it!
Christian is a great player and very cool. Glad to see Innova pick you up..

Welcome to the team Christian!

Congrats. to TTank on moving up the ladder. If your out there TTank, you can still keep posting now that you are a star!

dude look at their site. dave wiggins is not sponsored by innova champion neither is Justin Jerrnigan or Mike hofmann good freinds of mine. if you are gonna be on the team learn a little bit. and they do not thank innova champion they thank innova but if you want to make your self look worse keep beeting this dead horse you are not doing yourself any good arguing on this message board

Yeah Boi! :D

I knew it was just a matter of time before they picked you up.

Welcome to the Team, Christian!

BTW- It is Innova-Champion Discs.

Count it!
Christian is a great player and very cool. Glad to see Innova pick you up..



Brent needs a sponsor. The dude throws rocs like nobody's business.

BTW- It is Innova-Champion Discs.


Trotter and Christian. i am not trying to make a big deal about this and i know the company is called innova champion. my post previoulsy was to address the post submitted above christians post that stated he was already on team champion. there is a Champion team that i am assuming you being sponsored by innova know about and i am sure that the "Champion" sponsorship is a little sweeter and different than You trotterj ust being on the sponsored team. there is a different level of sponsorship and while you and christian being much better golfers than i am (and i am stoked for both of you for being on one of the greatest teams in the sport) you are not on "Team Champion" if you where your name would be in the "Team Champion" Box on this web site Sponsored Players (http://www.innovadiscs.com/team/index.html) No ill will meant guys and sorry to rain on Christian's parade i was only trying to clarify a statment made on the previous page. This should not be a hard concept to grasp it seems pretty cut and dry to me but i could be wrong Congrats to all!!

Count it!
Christian is a great player and very cool. Glad to see Innova pick you up..



Brent needs a sponsor. The dude throws rocs like nobody's business.


Seconded. Where's the Koontz love?

I'm sure it's a matter of time for Mr. Koontz...especially when the PDGA rookie of the year nominations and awards come out! Being a nice guy and a class act should seal the deal...

nice false advertising

Let. It. Go.

Big props to Schusterick for making the Scout team.

whatever

Team Champion Scout!

team scout whipped my butt this weekend that is for sure :D man when little wiggens is on that kid is good. i can't wait to see just how good that kid is going to get

Count it!
Christian is a great player and very cool. Glad to see Innova pick you up..



Brent needs a sponsor. The dude throws rocs like nobody's business.



I will be sending them my disc golf resume soon. Daemon I'm using you as a reference if you keep talking like this. 101 rocs!!

Trust me BWD, Christian isn't trying to "Front" anything...he's got game. I know the name catchup with the team level is misleading to readers in the signature...

carter come on buddy, where on here does it say that i do not think christian has game? i know he is from your home state montanya but lets try to stick to the facts. Game or not the kid is not on Team Innova Champion period. at least not yet. i hope one day he is there so he can say "see big wave i told. ya!!" man this message board is funny sometime

heck maybe all my ranting will make dunnipace or whoever the team manager is put him on the champion team just to spite me. if that is case then who else do i need to start ranting on :D

Who cares if he is on the scout team, champion team, or whatever. He is Sponsored, and thats all that matters. Why do you really care so much, and keep arguing about it.

if you don't care why did you take the time to post. are you really that concerned about what i am typing. and the reason i typed to day was my freind carter allen posted so i replied. and jsut for the record if my post is commented on i will reply. if you want me to shut up change the subject.

So....how 'bout them Indians?

They have scouts, stars and champions, too...

So....how 'bout them Indians?



It's not the Indian, it's the disc :D

Innova Champion! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

BWD, all I was trying to say was, in Christians signature I highly doubt his motive was trying to fool anyone into believing he's on Team Champion.

carter no worries homie and his signature i think is a outcome of this malee. either way buddy i am not sweatin anyhting going down here and i hope no one else is either.

Team Champion Scout!

Congrats to the new member Christian Dietrich, a YALE graduate.....the first ivy league grad sponsored by Innova.

Congratulations on making the scout team Christian, You are a great player and handle yourself with class on and off the golf course. Glad to call you a team member...

Yah brotha! Good work CD, keep slayin it in Montana!

Tank,

Did you get the pics from USDGC I sent you?

Rob sandrick. winning 4 out of 5 last tournaments.One being non sanctioned. The other one losing a playoff to chris sprague in a 4 hole play off for the win. he throw all innova except his putters which are all gateway. He just won Homie's againt 53 open players including michigans top player geoff bennett and lots of other 1000 rated players.

Tank,

Did you get the pics from USDGC I sent you?



Yes sir Mr. Craiger, I did. Thanks my friend...

Talk about a picture being worth a thousand words...! ;)

post em.

Dallas Albright
2007 NORCAL series champion

Koontz's name is on the scout team page now, congrats BK!

dont you mean team champion!? ;)

and why isnt your name up yet? thought you got picked up too!

Congrats to all to get the call :)

Illinois could use an Innova Sponsored player- maybe Brett Comincioli http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=19325&amp;year=2007
Rating is creepin to 1k and he is a great figure in the sport!

I played 2 rounds with Brett at worlds - great guy!!

Thanks Christian. The round I played with you, The Whip, and Randolph was one of the best cards I ever played on.

I owe it all to the boys back home who keep me excited about playing everyday. Thanks to all who have supported. Peace.

Congrats Brent, you are more than deserving! Looking forward to playing with you next year a bit more....

Atta Boy Koontz, Congrats bro...!!!

Rob sandrick. winning 4 out of 5 last tournaments.One being non sanctioned. The other one losing a playoff to chris sprague in a 4 hole play off for the win. he throw all innova except his putters which are all gateway. He just won Homie's againt 53 open players including michigans top player geoff bennett and lots of other 1000 rated players.



David,

I have to 2nd this. If Rob went on tour he could do some damage. From August to October he's been super hot. Adding the Homie and Channy results he's probably played 1020+ golf thru that stretch. He seemed to tone it down a little this year and had more of a positive attitude. It really showed on the course and his putting is as good as anyone when he's relaxed. That 01 Roc is a deadly weapon for him.

I wish we had a disc golf reality show. Throw Rob with the top players in the world and we have some real entertainment :D.

That's for sure - he's been playing strong golf and seems "made for TV"

Rob did throw in some huge shots in the two tournaments I played with him. But being dialed on 40ft putts because you leave alot of 40ft putts is probably his achille's heel. Sorry Rob

- bring it on next year! :)

Rob is a good player, but in the past his attitude and sportmanship left something to be desired.

I know of a few sponsored players with the attitude and sportsmanship thing not figured out yet.

Don't we all...

Ye

Rob is a good player, but in the past his attitude and sportmanship left something to be desired.


Played with him a few times and this is an understatement. Still dont understand how some people can get so angry over an off shot or missed putt. Its disc golf peeples.

Thats where mental strenth comes into play. That's the toughest part for most golfers that have the good physical game...

A good mental game takes you to that other level...

I know of a few sponsored players with the attitude and sportsmanship thing not figured out yet.

ssshhhhhhh, I Know I am still working on mine.

I play 20 or so league rounds with Rob Sandrick every year. I've seen Cam Todd play a lot and there are similarities. If Rob were on tour he would win a lot. His mental game has improved a bit with time....

ssshhhhhhh, I Know I am still working on mine.

huh I know you got to be kidding :D

ssshhhhhhh, I Know I am still working on mine.

huh I know you got to be kidding :D




You should play with him sometime seeware! :0

:D;)

mos def, that would mean I was in Texas, cause Cware aint geTTin ouTTa Tejas that often.

one day you Mullet I hope to play some NC golf one day...... :)

that would be cool

I'll believe it when I see it C-Ware?

Be good to see ya though...