Course par at the Rock is NOT 54--its 57 or 58 IMO. Holes #4 and #5 are par 4s. Hole #17 is a 4 or 5. Expecting a pair of 500' drives (or even 400' drives on #4 or #5) to set up a 50' putt is a little ridiculous.

Likewise Par on the Beast IMO is somewhere between 58 and 61 (par 3 or 4 = #9, par 4 = #4 & #10, par 4 or 5 = #16 & #18).

Can any of those holes be 3'd? Absolutely. Nolan 2'd #4 on the Beast last year with a 20-30' putt and 3'd #16.

Martin, haven't I warned you of the evils of crack?

Course par at the Rock 54?

Seek some professional help there, my man. :)

Hello the ROCK par is 58. 2 par 4's # 4 and 5 and 1 par 5 # 17. every other hole on the course has been 2'd.. and # 4, 5, and 17 have all been 3'd more than once. not sure if anyone has 2'd # 5. I know that is the only hole I have not 2'd other than 4 and 17 :)

just because a hole has been 2'd does not make it a par 3. many holes are solid par 4s even though a 2 is possible. Does someone acing a hole make it a par 2?

really ?? :D

I was thinking that same thing, Josh. Of course, with C-dubs arm, everything is a Par 2. :)

As for the lil' sidebet, I'll see your 2 beers, 2 burgers and 2 bucks, and raise you 4 beers and 3 bucks.

Call or fold?

really :cool: so nice eagle when you took a 2 on a par 4 hole!

yo anyone leaving from austin today

I was thinking that same thing, Josh. Of course, with C-dubs arm, everything is a Par 2. :)

As for the lil' sidebet, I'll see your 2 beers, 2 burgers and 2 bucks, and raise you 4 beers and 3 bucks.

Call or fold?



hehe trying to get a reaction out of a busy TD is like trying to get early payout :eek:

so we're at a 6-pack, lunch, and 5 bucks.... hmmm sounds pretty feasible to me. I call. when should i collect my winnings? let's do the beer and bucks after round 4, and lunch will be at LOSO if I can make it :D

a little more on-topic... does anyone know if there will be more FW3 playing? Deidre has been alone in that field too many times...

hehe trying to get a reaction out of a busy TD is like trying to get early payout :eek:



Now that was funny! LMAO! :D

yeah, i guess i am too used to always keeping score as 54, no matter what course par is. course par wont make a difference while i play this weekend.

what is the course record out at round rock? I thought it was -5 but that was me thinking the rock was a 54.

I want to say -5 in singles and -8 in doubles. pretty sure on the doubles but not the singles record

shannon at outlaws (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=3727#Advanced)

that was with the north and south course set-up. the 50's north and the 40's south.. come on now. you know noone shot 46 on the north. he did shoot 49 . so that is probably the record for singles

i never said 46. i said 49, which i would think is -9 on a par 58 course.

you trying to get smart? I can meet you at the bike rack if you want!!!

so aaaanyway... back north to the waco courses :-)

I'd be ecstatic shooting in the 50s at the east course. My goal for that course is a 61. any better and I'll do my happy dance

I think 40s is feasible for the olde cam course. the best I've ever shot is a 50 there (from the shorts), so I guess there's lots of room for improvement.

Joey, are all divisions playing longs at cameron? or is there going to be one short round, one long, etc? gonna change pins for sunday again like last year?

3 o'clock behind the dumpsters. :mad:

got one on the line cuz... have some faith!
sa'lisa wants to know if you know anybody that has a car dolly?
see you at the waterin' hole!!

I just hope all divisions play from the same tees. I like being able to compare my scores to the guys at the very top so I know how much I need to improve. I hate playing from shorter tees or different courses.

I HATE short TEES too :D GOOD LUCK to all the DRAGONS playing WACO

oh yea and hope all runs smooth for the TD's

I just hope all divisions play from the same tees. I like being able to compare my scores to the guys at the very top so I know how much I need to improve. I hate playing from shorter tees or different courses.


If you play advanced or open you will never ever play the short tees at W.A.C.O.

This has nothing to do with Waco, but you are both wrong. :) Par for RR is way higher than y'all state. Just take averages at the tourneys. Even for open, the average score for #4 and #5 is above 4. (Not everyone can crush like Ware.)

Good luck Martin. I don't want to hear any stories about hole 16 at the Beast. :p

I'd be ecstatic shooting in the 50s at the east course. My goal for that course is a 61.



Oh boy, do I feel another side bet coming on.

NO WAY! What's your best score there?

Move 18 deep left? That would be fun!

Hey who is the jerk-off from Gatesville that played in last years tourney at Waco that demanded his money back for him and his son? Whomever that ******* is shouldn't be allowed in the tourney. PERIOD. No offense Billy I don't remember the name but they took advantage of how nice a guy Joey is.


I remember that guy, he accused a kid of cheating on his scores. His pair was'nt big enough to correct him.

I have not yet decided if we will move any of the holes at Olde. It all depends on how quickly the rounds go on Saturday. The Intermediate and Rec players will be playing from the REGULAR boxes at Olde Cameron. (don't think of them as the short boxes) The Adv players will be playing the CHAMPIONSHIP boxes. At Cameron East all Rec and Int Women will play from the short box on Hole 6. Everyone else throws from the accross the pond. :D

There were a couple of new lakes on both courses this morning due to the rain. But, I think they will probably be gone by the weekend.

Well it's off to the course to see if we can get in some groundskeeping.

Anybody going to be out there early tomorrow playing the courses. Rev when you going to be there?

I'd be ecstatic shooting in the 50s at the east course. My goal for that course is a 61.



Oh boy, do I feel another side bet coming on.

NO WAY! What's your best score there?



heh, my best to date on the east course is a 65. but it's been awhile, so I'm hoping I can do better... you want ANOTHER side bet? well, I'm always game :D

hey newbe, did ya decide if we're gonna have food out there?

The Intermediate and Rec players will be playing from the REGULAR boxes at Olde Cameron. (don't think of them as the short boxes) The Adv players will be playing the CHAMPIONSHIP boxes.



argh... short tees for MA2? crap I might just have to move up for this one. I doubt I'd cash, but at least I'd get to play from the big-boy tees. heh, my rating is 859... what happens if a solidly rec-rated player cashes in advanced? :D

hey rev, what happens to our side-bet if I play from the weenie boxes?

with all this side-betting, I think I need to make up a t-shirt that says "I don't care as long as I beat Atwood" :cool:

with all this side-betting, I think I need to make up a t-shirt that says "I don't care as long as I beat Atwood" :cool:

dude, there isn't enough cotton in the world to make enough shirts to give to all who would qualify to wear them.

Okay Baldguy, and I mean that in a loving way, *snicker*, don't get all bent. You will only play the...ahem..."regular boxes" on Olde Cameron. Our little wager is for The Beast, where you and I will be playing the same boxes. No reason to move up and get drilled just to compete with lil 'ole me. :)

As for what happens when a solidly rec rated player cashes in advanced, this is a subject I happen to have some personal knowledge of. Hit me up this weekend and I'll explain all about how it works (the joy, the pain, the triumph, the alienation - its a story that's got it all).

Now, in regards to those shirts, I can guarantee you some built in clientele all around the state. Perhaps nationwide. I can name at least a half dozen guys (and maybe one girl-ie) who'd buy one right now! Why didn't I think of that?

Of course, that could just be me being self-absorbed. Gimp? What say ye? Grandly delusional or viable humor?


:D:D:D:D

with all this side-betting, I think I need to make up a t-shirt that says "I don't care as long as I beat Atwood" :cool:

dude, there isn't enough cotton in the world to make enough shirts to give to all who would qualify to wear them.



Pat, don't forget about the growing number of folks who actually have reason to WANT to wear one. My goal this weekend is to place you among their number.

self-absorbed? surely not! :p I meant that I am considering moving up just so that I get to compete on the long boxes... not just to compete with lil' ol' you :D. I've been meaning to play one or two tourneys in advanced just to see if I play up to the level of my competitors; some say it's a good idea. As for the now infamous side bet, it'll be just for the beast, eh? total score for both beast rounds? I say that if I do move up, we play total overall score. I might need olde cam's birdie holes to help me out :o

you don't think i can shoot low 60s on the east course? heh well now i have a second goal:

1. beat atwood.
2. prove atwood wrong

:cool:

trust me i would be there but i have to work sat. Mark show up at the next tx10 and i'll show you who is skeered :D:D:D

well crud. I hate playing from the short boxes. With my home course being PTom Bass I can throw a long way...just can't shoot through trees. My rating is only 850, I know I can't hang with the big boys...heck, can't even hang with the intemediates. I'll have to think about what to do I guess

hey can u sign up for the tournament on saturday and is it full yet? just wanting some info

well.... I've thought it over... and I think I need the experience of playing advanced more than I need plastic. perhaps I'll cash in MA1, but regardless I'm sure I'll have fun. Joey, can you move me (Joshua Dann - 20737) to MA1, please? If you can, I'll give you the $10 difference early Saturday morning. If you have any questions, please feel free to call me... I'll send a PM with my cell number

-Josh

Done Joshua.

trust me i would be there but i have to work sat. Mark show up at the next tx10 and i'll show you who is skeered :D:D:D




Yeah, yeah, yeah. Skeert, skeert, skeert!!! You already know I'm not gonna be at the next ZLT10, you weenie arm, 6' putt missing old wannabe! You scheduled this alleged "work" because you are SKEERT to lose to me again on the big bad BEAST! Now everyone knows it!

Frankie's skeert of Mark, Frankie's skeert of Mark, nanny nanny boo boo.

Look on the bright side Frankiepoo, at least nobody calls you a bagger. Why would they?

Get some rest Mark. Stay away from Temple this weekend.

thanks for the help Joey.

Mark you may have scared off Frank (I heard him whining at the 24-hour marathon... something about a beating from atwood...) but I'm playin with the big boys this weekend so giddyup! total score, 4 rounds, 6-pack, 2 burgers, and 10 bucks!

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You're ON! I like Ziegenbock Amber and any type of currency will do for my ten bucks. As for my burgers, I'll let you buy my lunch both days at the LOSO from the Texas Roadhouse trailer.


Thanks for coming out!


Joey, I'm headquartering outta the Temple house this weekend. Don't worry, Smacktalkers Gurl has been warned that I will need my sleep. ;)

You like all the same stuff I do, so there will be no problem remembering what you should have ready when I come to collect Sunday afternoon!

I'm going to try and make LOSO, but if for some reason we can't make the trip, you can just buy mine and Deidre's lunches next month at the Waco ZT10

;)

Move 18 deep left? That would be fun!

Hey who is the jerk-off from Gatesville that played in last years tourney at Waco that demanded his money back for him and his son? Whomever that ******* is shouldn't be allowed in the tourney. PERIOD. No offense Billy I don't remember the name but they took advantage of how nice a guy Joey is.


I think I met the dude you are talking about and he's from Jonesboro which is just north of here. He was talking to a junior player about cheating on his score. Funny thing was I had just told the kid the same thing because he was cheating every chance he got during the round. Why did the guy ask Joey for his money back?
Cuz glad to see you might soon be employed. Now go ahead and enter the tourney.
Sorry no car dolly yet but I'll look around for y'all. The sun shined all day on Thursday and more of the same is expected for Friday(today). Joey, do you think people shoud try to stay outta the Beast tee boxes to give them a chance to dry out for Saturday? Today is a holiday for me so I'll try to make it out to Waco and work on the tee boxes.

that was low :) you know if you have to worry about marsha beating you. then you might as well quit playing :D:D

that was low :) you know if you have to worry about marsha beating you. then you might as well quit playing :D:D



I'm not worried :cool:don't tell him, but I'm just trying to lull him into a false sense of security

that was low :) you know if you have to worry about marsha beating you. then you might as well quit playing :D:D



I'm not worried :cool:don't tell him, but I'm just trying to lull him into a false sense of security



I'm ignoring Francine, since she's not even bothering to show up this weekend.

As for you Baldie, you're doing an excellent job, if the above is your true goal. I can't tell you how secure I'm feeling. Good work.

anyone coming into waco late tonight from austin or from south 35 through austin? i am looking for a ride for a friend who won't be getting off till around 9 from work.

message me or give me a call on my cell: 699-6303

I'm ignoring Francine, since she's not even bothering to show up this weekend.

As for you Baldie, you're doing an excellent job, if the above is your true goal. I can't tell you how secure I'm feeling. Good work.


I'm glad you're feeling secure... it makes me not feel quite as bad about taking your money

(/volley)

anybody going to be around the course at noon for some skins?

Yeah Bill that's him. I've never heard of anyone demanding their money back because someone else cheated. That is why we have rules.

Gary, you can probably find Carson and Lance around that time for skins but I don't know if you'd want to play them for skins on their courses!

i will play them on there home course it will give some good practice. What course will they be at do you know? I am about to leave Killeen.

Gary, you've seen Olde Cameron before. You should spend your time today on the Beast. ;)

anyone coming into waco late tonight from austin or from south 35 through austin? i am looking for a ride for a friend who won't be getting off till around 9 from work.

message me or give me a call on my cell: 699-6303



WILL DISC FOR MONEY

Any free subs involved?

yes. just no more free water. check your pms nelle.

what time is players meeting

I am not PMSing!!! :D

According to Mark, that would be a first :o:D

hahahahahahahahahaha

Dumbo


Schedule:
Fri MaceMan Doubles 4 to 6
Pool A=all Adv Divisions Pool B=all Int and Rec Divisions

Sat 9am Players Meeting
Pool A................................................. ...Pool B
6/12
Cam East 9:30am Rd 1.......................Cameron 9:30am Rd 1
Cameron 2:30pm Rd 2 ......................Cam East 2:00pm Rd 2
6/13
Cameron 9:00am Rd 3.........................Cam East 9:00am Rd 3
Cam East 1:30pm Rd 4........................Cameron 2:00pm Rd 4

Awards to follow.

seeware being so helpful. even for an am tournie. is hell freezing over? :D

:DI hope not or else you aint staying with me. :p

what can I say :D

Cross your fingers, rain is moving up from Austin. Hopefully we miss most of it.

very doubtful but it only lasted here for a short while. but came down pretty hard .

GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE DRAGONS IN ATTENDANCE!!

Cross your fingers, rain is moving up from Austin. Hopefully we miss most of it.



I'm bringing cleats and water socks just in case... I learned my lesson in Athens :-)

Well we just decided to experience the torture that is the Beast about an hour ago. Just signed up on Titledisc...
Here is hoping no rain for this one... I haven't had this happen yet all year :mad:


Tammy (Women Int) & Brandon (Int)

Can anyone give me directions to where the Course(s) are?
Also, I am planning on driving down in the morning and was wondering if anyone has some extra sleepping space for saturday night or if there are sponsored motels?

the right rev posted directions back a few pages on this thread, but here's a link:

http://www.pdga.com/courses_by_city.php?id=855

it's really pretty easy :-)

Edit: also, Motel 6 North (belmeade) is pretty cheap, i think $36 a night if you reserve it online

Those courses don't hold water like Athens or Houston. Muddy, maybe. Swimming, not likely.

Chris got to call someone dumbo without p'ing them off! :D

Is the players meeting for everybody at the beast?

:D

<font color="red"> </font> The courses are located west of I-35 on the west and east side of the Brazos river. Find the river and you'll find the courses inside Cameron Park.

Is the players meeting for everybody at the beast?

<font color="red"> </font> The players meeting is at the redwood shelter in Cameron Park.

Boy you guys are slacking :D SCORES.......total players...any info of any kind :D:D:D

yea Joey what jason said!! :D

the only info I know right now is after first round from the lead card which was at beast. Then 2nd round at old cameron

Gary C. 57 51
Tim E. 58 54
David T. 59 i think 53
Blair N. 60 54
Charles C. 60 50

That should be accurate for the lead card in MA1

Hope that helps u cware

Come on Gary, you may as well give yourself a BIG lead!

Good luck everyone. I just spoke with Joey and he said all is going well.

Results are posted.
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4010

hey Joey there seems to be some scores in the 3rd already amd is making the score back to par look a little crazy :)

how about the lifer ADV guys. Getting TORE UP :D:eek:

how is a 57 at the beast rated as a 948 round?

first day sure did run very smooth. Big thanks to the spotters on the Beast. The spotters sure did get a workout on hole 6. :cool: We watched the card in front of us submerge 5 discs and then we had to finish on the hole. It was my first time playing the course and it is a very challenging course.

Man I wish that I could be there tearing the Advanced players up!!!!!!! Will definately be at the Big Arms on the Brazos. Good luck to all

LOL i wish you would have been here too.

LOL no you don't cause you would be in 2nd place..hahaha J/K, keep up the good shooting, are you going to be at the BAB

Coda, Why didn't you play Waco?

Wow, Chris you're right! Adv for life indeed. ;)
Troy, DFL? Are you playing with a broken arm? :o

Joey said prego Patty Justice hit her first ace ever yesterday!

nice shooting gary , good luck all austin area golfers!!!

c'mon 3 cox I mean cox III :D

curious minds want to know!!!! :D:D

**** **** tim e. :D53 on the beast.smokin (53 =982 no way)

not sure if Troy posts here, but just so you guys know, he and Jeff O. were a little late because Jeff got in a pretty nasty accident. He and his better half were fine, but his vehicle... not so fine. Anyhow, they missed 3 holes so 7x3 to start out... DFL isn't hard to reach.

As for myself, I made the mistake of playing in 95 degree heat while on medication (Mucinex) that apparently is bad about dehydrating whomever is lucky enough to take it. Even Atwood beat me (double or nothing in July?). :-)

Kat, Mark found your disc, see you in Waco for the Texas 10,

53 on the beast.smokin (53 =982 no way)



no poop... a 57 Pro Weekend in march with no leaves or other foliage was an even 1000. the wind was the same speed, just a different direction... go figure...

Results are up if you go to the pdga tour link (listed above). The ratings look to be put in like everyone played the same course at the same time which would account for the strangely high intermediate ratings and the strangely low advanced ratings...

The ratings are messed up. Looks like the ADV and INT were calculated as playing the same courses in the same rounds.

Need to get them separated on the event info page.

Charles Cox takes 4th in advanced, Claydog wins adv masters with Don Q 2 strokes off in 3rd......Way to go to all of the Arlington crew!!! Sorry to hear about your heat/medication experience Josh, it's bad enough out there without something else screwing with you. I'm sure it was a great tourney, just wish we could have made it down. Hats off to Joey and the Waco crew ;)

Charles Cox takes 4th in advanced,



and you didn't tie Mr Miller..no shootout today :D

and we so enjoy those charles...see you at the TX10.

how is a 53 on the beast only a 983 rating?

when i played the NT at Waco this year I shot a 56 which was rated over 1000.

Very nice shootin Tim on that last round. You deserve the win especially after that hot round. Very well run tourny Joey. Hope to play next year. :cool: If I am still in the country.

Results are up if you go to the pdga tour link (listed above). The ratings look to be put in like everyone played the same course at the same time which would account for the strangely high intermediate ratings and the strangely low advanced ratings...

Congrats to all the WINNERS!! where was Go Big Rogers this weekend?? sure did not have the rounds he was having in lago vista :)

Awesome tournament.

On day 1, second round at the Beast for the Int. men�We started on Hole 5, but watched the Littlest-Man-with-the-Biggest Arm (Marcus Lujan) put 3 consecutive shots into the pond on #6 before finally carding out with a 10. Not to be outdone, Thomas �Kansas� White on our card put his first two shots into the pond�and then grip-locked his next shot, which did not go over the pond, but instead landed on the boat ramp near #5�s tee box. But at least it was dry and not another penalty stroke. But, his throw from the boat ramp also found the pond. Kansas finally made the green on his next throw, but missed two putts to finally card an 11.

Also, while waiting for the awards ceremony, the inevitable �Throw a Disc Across the Brazos� spectacle started. I stopped counting after the 70th disc was thrown into the river (probably about 525-550� across according to most people). I even witnessed a couple of CE Valks get sacrificed to the muddy brown water.

After about 20 attempts, 14 year old (or is he 15 yet?) Matt Hall finally unleashed a DX Beast that held its line just long enough to find the opposite shore. It was the only one I saw get across�although, Intermediate player Blake Stratdman came within about 10 feet of reaching the other side, also with a DX Beast.

Hey Rooster i saw the same thing before my card walked up to 6. I saw last years adv. champ through 3 discs in the water before carding a triple circle 8. It was a rough hole. The beast was good to me one day and bad to me on the other.

isn't that amazing last years ADV CHAMP was playing ADV again this year. WOW :D

He might like playing adv. :)

Thanks Joey and crew for a great tournie. I had a blast and came home with only a couple chiggers. Thanks to all the ladies who played, we had fun. See you Pros next year!!!!! :D

Yes Gary I have noticed a BUNCH of Guys from around Texas that will be AMS for LIFE. I guess it is the FAT PAYOUTS that keep them from moving up.

Having played sanctioned tournaments in 12 states, i have to admit they are bigger here in TX.

isn't every thing BIGGER IN TEXAS :cool:

:)

Yes Gary I have noticed a BUNCH of Guys from around Texas that will be AMS for LIFE. I guess it is the FAT PAYOUTS that keep them from moving up.


I choked on my home course, hope to see you at Z10 Waco and Temples 2nd Birthday Bash that following sunday. I'll be playing OPEN.

you right about big payouts!
Am for life....I think they should get a players package with no payout. :DBut then the T.D.S would have even a bigger problem with the the ams paying for the pro turnout. :oMaybe....just maybe the T.D.'s that can raise money for their event through sponsorship should be the only ones running tournaments.... all the rest stop running events. There are way to many events in Texas between non sancationed events to events that only draw 35 or 40 people.
If you can't draw more than 40 people, stop holdiong your event and support a event that has a big draw. Nothing wrong with a small Dallas event giving its support to something like Texas States.Look at it this way if there was only 20 event in Texas a year and each of them had 120+ players with $2000 added to each, as a players you would enjoy this events more than you would at some 40 player event that can't even supply food. If someone wants to run a sancationed event in their little town, they should be expected to meet a large amount added. Bottom line if a event has 10 pros with no added money and 40 ams .....you better belive the T.D. is make some GOOD money. Belive me the T.D. should get paid for his efforts. But making the house payment off the events ams turn out is WRONG! The schedule should have 5 or six non sancationed event and 20 or so big sancationed. All the rest be one day minis.

But I like running 170 player mini's Vinnie :D

Harlan, where do you see the 2nd annual temple B-day bash tourney info?

I hear you ....them events benefit all!
I wonder if you changed it to the Texas 5 and held your events on 4 courses how many people would show. you would have so much more fun running your mini :Dthat had 300 players

I spoke with Psyco over this weekend and said he will post it this week under other clubs.There is to be over a $200 ace pot. Psyco I opened your big mouth for you.

I like the number 10. Oklahoma will have a different number however /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Back to Waco....thanks to Joey and all the locals. Waco is always a great place to play, work, and spend time around disc golf.

Notice Troy (I try to throw distance) Soules is very quite. He gave me an old putter on Saturday afternoon and challenged me to throw across the river. I landed just 40 or 50 feet short of making it across. You should have seen the look on the poor little guy :D Some TD's can throw remember that Troy. Oh wait you will never play against me because you hide in Adv. :)

Thanks
Chris

A putter? wow! that would have been sweet to see! Did you throw anything across? Rooster (i think) posted somwhere only one disc made it over...I thought Troy cold get it over...

Oh wait you will never play against me because you hide in Adv. :)



OH, SNAP!!!!!!!!! :D

OH and I forgot this whole REC division is a joke!
according to Websters its
refreshment of strength and spirits after work; also : a means of refreshment or diversion : HOBBY
And yes its a hobby but if you are trying to make something off it, it becomes a sport and with all sports you are only allowed to make something off it if you are a pro

Saturday Night - Troy threw one across (disc?) and so did Matt Hall (dx beast). I almost got a JLS over, but it wasn't stable enough to turn back towards the bank, landed maybe 10-20 short. Perfect downriver wind for a lefty...

Only 1 made it over which was Matt. I gave him 6 brand new discs that are swimming with the fish now.

Saturday Night - Troy threw one across (disc?) and so did Matt Hall (dx beast). I almost got a JLS over, but it wasn't stable enough to turn back towards the bank, landed maybe 10-20 short. Perfect downriver wind for a lefty...



Only 1 made it over Sunday didnt see saturday. Good finish Bender. Way to move on up. 10-20 ft. short was Matt throwing your disc. :)

A putter? wow! that would have been sweet to see! Did you throw anything across?



Troy didn't have anything else for me to throw. He did say he threw a driver way into the trees earlier. Just don't ask him how far his putter went when he tried that :D

Only 1 made it over which was Matt. I gave him 6 brand new discs that are swimming with the fish now.



Saturday afternoon Troy put an archangel over, and it had at least another 80-100 feet to go. It hit the trees up about 40 feet. That was the first disc to make it over, and there must have been another 12-15 that got within 30 feet or so. I wasn't able to hang around to watch Sunday's display :(

Funny Gary. :)

No, I know how to use the wind to throw. I only threw it halfway, the wind did the rest.... ;)

Nice finish T-Bend, I think that there is something in the water @ the round rock area :Dfiesty

Nice finish PuppyDog, Charlies and Don Q. Good representation of the ADGA.

anyone know what tim's final round should have been rated?

nice golfing bender!

1 550 Ron Russell 9999 1023 53 1025 50 996 48 1036 61 1005 .

It appears Ron Russell's 53 got him a rating of 1025

I don't know if it will be that high but I bet it beaks 1000.

c-ware both escbedo bros will be moving up later this year or early next. You know they only play a couple of tourneys per year.Can't wait to see what they can do playing 20+ a year..

I know those kids are great for the sport. and already kicking their Dad's ***!! :)

I wish I would have started during my developing years .start them young!!!!!!!!!!!!

1 550 Ron Russell 9999 1023 53 1025 50 996 48 1036 61 1005 .

It appears Ron Russell's 53 got him a rating of 1025



You gotta be careful with these types of comparisons, especially given the wind during the pro weekend. That being said, Tim's round was such a relative [*****]-kicking over a solid field, that it probably deserves a similar rating.

the wind was from a different direction in March, and only slightly stronger. helps on some holes, hurts on some others. comparitively, it didnt matter.

Many lines that were available Pro weekend were double the size they are now, especially on the Beast. there's things called leaves and underbrush that really choke off 10-17 in June compared to March.

The lane on Olde #9 is now about 1/3 - 1/4 the size it was in March. Combined with the bamboo gone behind the pin, that hole now requires a damnnear perfect shot or you're in serious trouble. The lane reduction on Olde #15 is similar. Maybe thats why Joey had 15-18 short all weekend.

Some of the locals said it was perfect weather for a hot round. That round should be atleast 1000

You can not compare scores on olde cameron,the baskets were all in the long spots. # 17 is at least one amybe two shots longer.#16 is a shot longer,#18 is on the hill,try to ace that.

You can not compare scores on olde cameron,the baskets were all in the long spots. # 17 is at least one amybe two shots longer.#16 is a shot longer,#18 is on the hill,try to ace that.

the real comparison is the beast.

mostly i agree with you regarding the Olde side. however, long #16 should not be a shot longer for advanced and above. #17 Pro-long is arguably a par-4 for the Pros, and it was short all Am weekend, which should yield 50% birdies. as far as #18 goes, it was a challenging headwind Am weekend and a favorable tailwind pro weekend. At 350' or so, a decent sidearm (which most pros have) gets a rightie up the hill, especially with that wind. As a lefty, i was drooling for a shot at the hill position this weekend, even with the headwind. (had to settle for a drop in birdie thanks to a beeline drive with a Flash.)

Sandalman, get over the am. division.ssshhhhhhhhhhtttttttt..

hey chile bro, with a 10month old at home i gotta play when i get the chance :p

You can not compare scores on olde cameron,the baskets were all in the long spots. # 17 is at least one amybe two shots longer.#16 is a shot longer,#18 is on the hill,try to ace that.

the real comparison is the beast.

mostly i agree with you regarding the Olde side. however, long #16 should not be a shot longer for advanced and above. #17 Pro-long is arguably a par-4 for the Pros, and it was short all Am weekend, which should yield 50% birdies. as far as #18 goes, it was a challenging headwind Am weekend and a favorable tailwind pro weekend. At 350' or so, a decent sidearm (which most pros have) gets a rightie up the hill, especially with that wind. As a lefty, i was drooling for a shot at the hill position this weekend, even with the headwind. (had to settle for a drop in birdie thanks to a beeline drive with a Flash.)


The wind was blowing harder the fourth round pro weekend at East vs. am. It was unarguably the worst wind I've seen at East. I was doing the live score for the second card. I kept saying " I'm glad I'm not playing". As for am weekend you could'nt ask for better conditions.

Did anyone else take a 3 on #16(east course) this weekend? :D

Just because you shanked your drive so far left you could throw out over the river.... :D

Seriously though, nice 3.

I was lucky to witness Mitch's trey. There was a guy who got it first round. I dont recall his name.

the tee shot was not like I had planned...but very effective :p...the 30 on the back nine saved the weekend :o

harlen i recall his name.. It was LUCKY..

Mitch shanked his drive far left into the revine. He wasn't happy with it until he threw a cake within 20 feet of the basket and milked it. Great shot Mitch. The dudes name I think was David Tomilson.

Marcus (little guy with the big arm) had the same 3. Shanked the drive out to the ravine, great upshot to about 30 feet. That seems to be the way to play that hole!

Great weekend Joey and the Guys from Waco rock.Had a great time playing with the old guys way more relaxed and fun.would love to know who took my 60.00 pile of winnings of the back of my truck.dont know who you are but karma is real and it will be with you.O yea congrats Nelle on pulling it back together after a tough start.

WHAT??

sombody ganked your winnings???

Man that really blows! I used to think all my gear was safe around fellow golfers, but it is becoming more and more apparant that we have some real A-Holes amoung us...

You are right about Karma, though...
Still sorry to hear that happened!
-Nix

Karma will come back and bite them big time. Possibly this weekend. I wonder if they ganked them and tried there luck throwing across the Brazos. Speaking of Karma did anybody find a White CE Valk with a 2001 Bowling Green stamp on it on #12 at the Beast. Saturday morning before the round it hyzered out to the right and never found it. It was never turned into the lost and found.

Billy, Sorry to hear somebody nabbed your winnings. If you need a disc with the Waco stamp let me know and I'll send one. Had fun playing with all the OMBs. Thanks to Joey and all the volunteers that helped out.

Himing, I will throw for distance against you anytime, and for money at that. So bring it!

I did throw one across, it was over half way up the trees when it reached the other side and it was still on line. I did skip one off the water onto the bank. But I don't count that since it was not in the air.

and yes Chris did out drive me with a putter. I am not afraid to admit that. but lets throw drivers and see who the best is. at that lets throw drivers, mid range and putters and see who can throw the longest in each. I will be waiting for your responce Himing. Just let me know?

It was a great weekend thanks to Joey and all that helped him run an always wonderful tourney, I had a great time. and had some great cards to play with. See ya'll next time.

Well, you need to add a degree of accuracy to the distance contest.

Put a line down the driving area and subtract the distance off the line from the distance thrown.

Sounds good to me mate. I think the "Where's My Red Widcat Distance Competition" at the LOSO event will be a good deal.

I wish I had of seen the one to hit the trees that high, that is BIG.

One last question :D If you can throw that far why aren't you playing pro? Can you putt?

See you at the Team E vs Team R match in Waco. I will be there heckling and laughing.

Chris

Joey, thanks again for the great tourney!!! Waco is definately one event i look forward to every year. Hope to see you on the Z10 weekend.

thanks to all the spotters and <font color="orange">volunteers </font> that helped out this weekend. and a big "<font color="brown">whoop!</font>" goes out to my brother-in-law for housing all 7 of us golfers this weekend. thanks aggie!! :D

Don and I want to say thanks to Joey and all the other volunteers. We both had a great time. We enjoy both the Waco courses.
Dang, Billy, I thought your bad luck had started to change. That is sad, sad indeed that someone took your winnings.

One last question If you can throw that far why aren't you playing pro? Can you putt?



Have you looked at my wonderful rating (911) Yes that is my rating and Yes I do call 911 during most of my rounds.

I have not been known as a putter. But it is getting better and when I reach Pro level I will play Pro. I think that Playing Pro should be a Privilege. I don't think just anyone should be able to play Pro. Why you ask, just think about this, when you are play casual its fine to play with newbie�s and lower skilled golfers, but during a tournament where you want to do your best and you have a joker that thinks that he can play pro on your card and he is all over the place. Slowing down the flow of the round and then the pro's on the card get ****** and have a bad round. I don't want to be the reason why a pro plays bad. I have played in a pro tourney and I did have a good round when I played with some of the top pros, but the thought was there. I fully agree with the PDGA adding a pro 2 division and I can't believe that no one is supporting it. I say move all the lower pro's that are self proclaimed PRO'S and move them down and make them earn their way into the BIG BOYS division. and make it a year process, i.e. you have to play this many tourney�s and you have to have a rating that is this high and you have to have placed this high in so many of the tourneys. I don't know, but that is my Opinion. And no one has to like it.

And thats all I have to say about that.

once again another story book ending to a fabulous weekend tourney. thanks joey and crew for doing a great job in running a fab event and keeping us all hydrated. looking forward to my next go round with the beast in the not so distant future...... :cool:

Well, I didn't have the best round, but I bet I got the best case of poison ivy. Eye lids, arms, hands, chest and legs. Haven't had it in a long time, but I got it now. I know it couldn't have been from having to go into the woods for any of my drives (since I didn't ever throw any off the fairway :D). It must have been from having to look for everyone elses :D.
I had a great time and will remember this one for a while, at least until the itching stops :D.
Thanks to everone involved for all the hard work and thanks to all the other players on my card for a great weekend.

I bet I got it worse Posion Ivy every where ,I had to go get a shot from the Doctor .Not real sure how happy I am going to be going back next week.But I will be there. :D

anyone out there smart enough to fix the player ratings :p

Sorry to hear about all your bad luck, Billy. Not a good way to end a successful tourney for you. See you soon. Don't scratch! :)

JOEY and CREW doin right again....what a surprise!
way to set the bar...... now if we can just get everyone else on the same page. All events should be like this NO MORE HALF ARSE EVENTS If you can't do it like them stop and help someone else get it done!
Joey so you know Round Rock had some ivy issues and with a phone call the city came out spraid something and it GONE!

V...in Austin they will not spray that close to the water...I think Waco has the same issue...the Ivy is to close to the river...I have poison ivy on my chiggers :o

I got a mix of poison ivy/chiggers, but only on my ankles and feet under my socks and shoes...wierd...hope all you guys that got it worse heal well and quickly. Nice to meet your wife Jimbo.

Big thanks to all involved in this tourney. Joey , Chris, Staff etc. Awesome courses, Awesome tourney! Now I know why they call that course the Beast. Kicked my @ss both rounds. Didn't get any poison ivy(and I was in it alot I'm sure). Texas is a great place for golf. The people are very cool as well. What's up with that water in Waco though? yuck!!!!! :DHope to make it back next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Laura, this is Ginger... I enjoyed playing together again! We will not be at the Texas 10 saturday :( I guess we will see you in WACO.
We found some discs in the water, one was yours Laura, an LS Also found GARY DUKE ORC, not from this weekend
John Hovey Ace Run 2003
"Cheif" Orc
We will have these at the Waco Texas 10, If you are not there we will give them to Chris, plus any we find before then if we have to find ours.

"CHEIF" Orc

Thank You Very Much.

I lost that Orc playing/testing the Gold layout, and it has been sorely missed.

Can you get it to Lubbock for this weekend? jk

I'll be sure to bring something interesting to Waco for your trouble.

Oh, for Gary Watts (who found my FX Firebird on #5) get with Chris in Arlington for your reward.

mitch the highlight of the torney uh nice that is the shot on that hole i did it both rounds on purpose 30 feet both times for par missed em both man my putting was all kinds of this weekend oh well though my higlight was 10 on the shorter coures skiped an orc down the road 20 feet from basket still missed putt though thats all good i'll be feelin alot better soon as i get to lubbock fri mornin peace boys going to see how i fair at BAB

Thanks Ginger. See you in July

Thanks Gary but you did not have to do that.. I was looking for my TBird that did not make land fall, never found it..

My better half lost a few discs as well... if anyone happens to find them, please let me know. They will have "Deidre Struchen" on the back, and possibly "24804". I will reward those who turn them in :). Thanks to the spotters on #6 East we already got one of hers back. Spotters rock

-Josh

I know I don't have to do that, but it's already done. Get with Chris and pick up your disc when you get there.

Josh, Good playin with you Man! Hit me up if you ever come out to Cali!

right back at ya. I had no idea you were from Cali :-) Of course my head was pretty obviously not with me on the course. I'm sure I missed alot of stuff that round (including putts)

-Josh

wish I could have been there!!!!!

wish I could have been there!!!!! :D

yea yea you should have been no excuses homie. anyway you playin doubs today at the hollow not i said the cat ill be at circle c workin with the putter hey did i leave my chair in your truck dosent matter i bought one last night but it might be there alright dude give a halla i'll talk to you when i get back from lubbock peace homie

call me

Yes we did find one of Deidra. A red Viking, I think.. We will have them at the Waco Texas 10
Also a White CE Eagle Marcus Lujan

awesome! what kind of beer do u like? :cool:

Like the person earlier said we were in there already fishing out My QJLS and found it!!! We usually find others instead of our own. We are glad to get them back to their owners.

Mark/Ginger - Thanks! Did you get Kat's floating Teebird or was it one from #6?

did yall find a green champion eagle that says b.w.p on the back

Yes, I put that on the board after the tournament you must have been on the road. Mark found it still floating!!!! I did see 2 guys one named Leonard out in the water in the other pond, he found one with a K inside. It wasn't till I got home and Mark said that was her mark. I told them since it was light weight and a "K" I probably knew the person, They said they return discs.

I would love to see my SE Leopard with the first "Atwood" dye. I lost it in Temple, The Island . It is white with a blue spin dye.

Sorry no Champion Eagle. Where was it lost?

"chief" orc= Scott Carter ...Austin

I did not see AM weekend on the schedule. Can anyone shed some light here? Will there be an AM weekend? If so, when and what tier?
Thanks for any help...Trying to nail out my schedule for 05

I think it's June 11-12.

Straight from the LSDGA.com schedule
Pending
Jun 11-12
B-Tier
Waco Charity Open - Am
Cameron
Joey Harrell
254-752-4737