Two men. Both rated at an abysmal 839. Locked in a battle for amateur supremacy and a free lunch in 2004. Who will come out on top? Place your vote now, and feel free to pontificate and prognasticate now and throughout the year.

TALL TALES OF THE TAPE

Hawkgammon
Age: 38
Height: 5-9
Weight: 180 lbs. of twisted steel and sex appeal
Hair: Salt and peppery
Eyes: Dreamy blue
Throws: RHBH
Drives: Makes a cool grunting noise/a pick-up
Putts: Deadly from 14'
Occupation: Bureaucrat
Sports HX: Football, Racquetball
Fitness: Works out 6x a week

md21954
Age: 28ish
Height: 5-11ish
Weight: 2...something probably
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Brown :confused:
Throws: Poorly
Drives: Flickmaster/a jeep
Putts: Consistent from 25'
Occupation: Financial Guy
Sports HX: Lacrosse
Fitness: Knows people who work out

personnally i don't know either one of you,but someone got to start this thing off.md21954 sounds like the underdog so he's my bet :D

My bet would be on the person who putts the best.

doh! he's beating you Hawk... makes me want to giggle :D

Well it will be worse if the voting accurately predicts the outcome. Imagine what a long 2005 I'll have then. :eek: Clearly the public is unfamiliar with my potential. I might have to put that avatar back up of me with my shirt off. :cool:

I think i speak for us all when i sady, keep the babes on there. :cool:

I've got to give Hawk the edge. Judging from tournament results, it looks like Hawk plays in more tournaments and has beaten md21954 in the tournys that they both have played in.

It also appears that Hawk is a more consistent golfer. Md21954 seems to usually have a good first round but [*****] the bed in the afternoon round. Maybe that lack of fitness Hawk pointed out? :D

Thanks for the vote Jeff! The check is in the mail. Finally perhaps the tide is turning. :)

With ratings that low, the added age/mellowness of the Hawk will raise him up.

how can a guy whose consistent from 25 feet have a 839 rating?

I'm not consistent from the distance and I'm 918

:eek:

maybe his drives are really bad?

really , really ,bad :eek:

i mean i guess if you are hittin 25 footers for five, more power to ya

yes... my drives are really bad. most say, i'd be pro if i could putt, i say, i'd be advanced if i could drive it straight consistently. i think my putt/approach is decent simply because i get more practice at it during casual rounds than most golfers :p

i drive RHBH and have almost gotten over my chronic yanks (grip lock) after switching from being a primarily RHFH thrower. distance is not an issue when i click.

my game is heating up w/ the weather and hawk will pose no threat. scrimmage set for saturday, rocburn, high noon. stay tuned...

also, my $ is on me because those rounds i bombed are having a greater impact on my rating than hawks lowest are on his (i think).

it's funny how at all the non-sanctioned events, hawk winds up on a card w/ the juniors in the second round :eek: it's ok though, i think he does it on purpose. he has a thing for little boys :D

no offense paul, but having played with you both, i think hawk is improving quicker and therefore will be rated higher. hawk has a poor putting tchnique, but lays up alot to offset his weaakness. you on the other hand, approach very well, putt streaky, and drive like crap alot, with the occaisional good one. if you kept out of trouble on your drives you would compensate for your weakness and probably beat hawk. i had a big problem early in trying to overdrive when i played with people who can throw farther than me, but i've learned that if i throw 300 accurately, that extra 50-75 feet won't help me in the bushes off the fairway!

no offense taken rich. i agree w/ most everything except the part about hawk finishing higher than me. rubbish! :D

i'm working on dropping the power mind set. when i do that, i drive more consistently. that's easier said than done.

time will tell... but tomorrow, i will give hawk lesson #1 at the roc. he's already making excuses!

i think the real question is will either of you ever catch up to me? i'm hoping this year to really improve in my decision making at tournaments and add 30 points to my rating.

it's funny, those 30 points represent about 3 dumb decisions a round, not even poor throws. like gunning a putt with a dropoff behind it and doing a blow by, so that i can't even make the come back putt. or yesterday's decision at the rock on 18. instead on conceding the 4, i tried blasting through the trees twice and hitting one both times, and taking a 5.

Maintain better focus - that is the key daniel-son :D

hawk has a poor putting tchnique



So true Rich, but that is what I have been working on during my IR stint. I will unveil the new and improved putting tomorrow and crush young Paul yet again. Feel free to join the Tour stop and witness the bloodshed in person. I'm out of shape and still ready to romp.

hawk winds up on a card w/ the juniors in the second round



Sounds like jealousy to me! :D

When the March update comes out I should already be ahead of the lacrosse player.

I'll be honest. I voted for the younger player. I think you should let us know a little bit more about your game, like what's in the bag, what course you primarily play, and what is an average score on that course.

I love gambling! I think i'm going to designate an entire thread to gambling.

Okay I'll pony up the info first, and Paul can provide his later.

My bag contains Beasts for driving, Spiders for mid-range, and Aviars for putting.

My home course is Patapsco, and my average score there is 63-65 with a personal best of 59.

You can follow details of our play on the Maryland Amateur Tour under the Other Clubs thread. First face off of the year is tomorrow.

... and my average score there is 63-65 with a personal best of 59.


From the shorts w/ all pins in the short positions in a wet dream :D
(just thought I'd lend some moral support)

(just thought I'd lend some moral support)



Thanks, I'll be sure to wear it. :D

i primarily play druid (live 2mi away) but i play a lot of different courses on weekends. at druid, average within 2 strokes of par (up or down) w/ best round -6 (mixed positions). second course would be patapsco where i am the two time am defending ice bowl champion :D personal best would be a 58 (everything in short from short) and a 63 from the pro tees to mixed positions. i average 60-63 from the shorts.

in my bag... valks, vikings, and teebirds for BH drives (170-172), i also FH the viking and a firebird, rocs also for BH drives and approach (heavy), stingrays for rollers, and aviar to putt.

hawk, how'd you do this weekend?

First face off of the year is tomorrow.



day 1 at a very windy rockburn
md21954 71
hawkgammon 74

day 2 at a slightly less windy druid hill 27 holes (including x-holes)
md 21954 101
hawkgammon 104

year-to-date, that put's me up by 6 :D

faceoff at patapsco, next saturday.

hawk, how'd you do this weekend?



Well let's see Mr. Druid at 3:45. I beat you by a stroke on your home courses actual 18 holes. I lost out on the x-holes that I was playing for the second time. For those not familiar the x-holes are nine holes in the woods (and I mean woods!!!) where you are hacking and whacking more than playing.

On Saturday you beat me by three when I played my first round in a month vs. you playing practically daily. An example...


By paul on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 09:14 am:


druid at 3:30.






By Mr. Druid on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 01:34 pm:


druid at 3






By paul on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 09:42 am:


bump!

druid, today, 1 or 2






By paul on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 07:52 am:


druid, today, 4






By paul9 on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 10:26 am:


druid, today, 3:45 or 4






By paul on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 11:35 am:


allright... have discs will travel!

see ya at 3:30.






By paul on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 07:59 am:


druid, 3:45






By paul on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 12:03 pm:


druid, today, 3:45






By paul on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 09:08 am:


yessiree, druid, 3:30ish.






By paul on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 09:18 am:


druid, today, 3:45.

blast tix for smokin' joe in my glove box.






By paul on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 09:16 am:


druid, 3:45






By paul on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 09:34 am:


50 degrees, sunny, windy, 3:45 @ druid






By paul on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 12:06 pm:


jimB, i will be there by 3:45






By paul on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:14 am:


druid @ 3:45






By paul on Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 12:00 pm:


druid, 3:45






By paul on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 07:51 am:


c'mon out to druid, 3:45





So upon review of these activities, and considering my inactivity, I would say that you beat me by three at Rockburn my first day back after a month, and then I beat you by one on your home course...the next day. :eek:
You practice/play several times a week to my two rounds on the weekend. I think you can throw the x-holes out as nothing sanctioned will ever go on in there! :D

As always all results available on the boards hottest thread...Maryland Amateur Tour.

i like this thread! though i suspected from the start that this would become a forum for your excuses, just not that quickly :D

it is correct that i practice/play several times a week. all the more reason that poll at the beggining indicates i will have a greater rating than you come '05! /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

ps... i had an 'off' weekend. that was the best chance you'll have to beating me for a good time to come. as a matter of fact... i don't foresee you beating me once during '04! btw... i'll be at druid today at 3:30 :D

and since when did you beat me at my home course? you said we'd play the x-holes and i beat you 101-104.

ok... if we don't count these holes and those holes over there, you might have beaten me, but that's not how you keep score. take notes hawk... you might learn something.

it is correct that i practice/play several times a week. all the more reason that poll at the beggining indicates i will have a greater rating than you come '05!




My point exactly! :DHow embarassing will it be when I finish ahead of you in the ratings for 2004? :eek:

not gonna happen-- i'm taking you down like a fat ***** in dodge ball :D

it's so easy to be confident when i don't have to sweat you making putts greater than 10'.

i'm taking you down like a fat ***** in dodge ball




This merely confirms the rumor that you have issues with women.

No need to putt greater than 10' when you keep parking the basket. You wouldn't be familiar with this since most of your drives take off at a 45 degree angle to the right.

SCOREBOARD SUCKA!!!

...and i'm 6'1'' (when i stand up straight) 230. i don't like people getting my height wrong!



Curiously Paul didn't post this corrected descriptive information :confused: but sent it to me "privately".

No need to putt greater than 10' when you keep parking the basket.



LOL!!! your scores clearly indicate that you have no problem "parking the basket". this rubbish is exemplary of the self-aggrandizement that provoked your simple mind to start this thread. it's all the more fuel for me to point and laugh while you bring up the rear w/ the juniors! :D

so what does this have to do w/ me kicking your [*****] at two different courses this weekend? :confused: :D

Just that you're "taller" than I thought. ;)

You guys suck

Isn't that really the point?

You guys suck



earth to chris... the pdga already established that w/ our 839 ratings.

Touche! It's just that Paul sucks worse.

I had to say something, you guys seemed lonely talking back and forth to eachother.

More importantly Chris, did you vote for the winner i.e. me?

when does the match occur?

The first real test Kid is Sunday at the Leap Day tourney at Seneca Creek. It's a handicap event based on ratings, so Paul and I will receive the same amount of strokes. It's also round one of the Maryland Series which is rotated among state courses.

LMAO... just noticed the new signature Hawk -
you are a troubled young man :D

Thank you! :cool:

hawk failed to mention i'm already 2 for 2 vs him for the year (at two different courses) /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

By paul on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 10:05 am:


3:45 druid





Keep working at it! It just makes your inevitable defeat more laughable. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Paul,

I believe I am narrowing the gap in the poll here. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

patapsco, 2/28, pro tees
Shark-60
Rich-61
Paul-63
Hawk-68
Kelly-69

what's up hawk? so far, i've taught you a lesson at patapsco, druid (+ x-holes), and rockburn. that's 3-0 w/ a year-to-date margin of victory of 11 strokes, about 3.7 per course.

it is unfortunate that my clutch decided to stop working somewhere of 95 on my way to seneca to beat you there also. next two-or stop, loriella.

a likely excuse paul!:)
after hawk man's showing yesterday he proved that those other rounds were practice. let see what happens in tournaments.

a likely excuse paul!:)
after hawk man's showing yesterday he proved that those other rounds were practice. let see what happens in tournaments.



BS... i'll beat you both at loriella.

Tournament Results are what count Paulie. PDGA first, then the others second. By clearly rejecting my offer to carpool this weekend, then orchestrating this charade of mechanical breakdown, and then weaving your Druid cohorts into this conspiracy, you've reached quite possibly a new low.

I finished third in Craigs handicap tourney, and you finished in Baltimore County. :D

oh, i'm so scared :eek:

does this mean you care to wager on loriella paul? i know a few places to eat down there, loser buys dinner?

you are correct to be scared rich. i barely lost to you at patapsco on saturday and i'm regaining confidence in my game, playing smarter and returning to FH on straight narrow fairways. i'll take a wager, but not dinner. still a bold maneuver for an 839 vs a 910. needs to be smaller (remember, i'm replacing a clutch this week and going on vacation next, just in case i lose, my $ will be better spent on seafood and singapore slings w/ mezcal on the side) :cool:
curious... if i'm playing better than my rating, what rating should i be? i'm shooting for 900 by year-end. the way hawk is playing, he should be shooting for his rating not to go down!

as for hawk... dodging? i think not. i even called you while i was stuck on the side of the road, asking for a lift to the event. you laughed and pointed as you drove by. a convenient way for you to avoid yet another humiliating defeat. i called everyone i had in my cell phone, hoping to catch a lift.

again, 3 courses, 3 wins, 3.7 avg strokes per victory. that's pretty dominating, no?

i even called you while i was stuck on the side of the road, asking for a lift to the event. you laughed and pointed as you drove by.



While that scenario is very plausible, the record should note that it did not happen. :D You called me at 0830 when I was already in Damascus after I had called you at 0800 telling you I was rolling out.

Rich I don't think you need to worry about Loriella since Paul is clearly content to "beat" me in practice rounds, but fearful to face me in actual tournament competition. :eek:

hawk has yet to beat me in '04.



I hate to bring this up, but with this quote Paulie is as usual wrong:

<font color="red">Rockburn Ice Bowl Results </font>


By boyd on Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 10:29 am:


box scores:
no particular order(cuz i'm lazy and STILL cold!)
hawk 70
tom 81
paul L 72
DB 66!!!! we owe him plastic..clerical error.
JG 50
glen 58
KJ 63
T2 56
JB 59
mike 66
shark 59
tom p. 65
chris 82
paul v. 73
kevin 78
srevice 71
DJ 68
blute 63
linsAy 75
will 69
sexy ski 68
beth 90
taylor 74
rhonda 79
rich 66
ray(the four disc wonder)64
chris r. 70
george 63
kelly( AKA camouflage woman)71
rachel 60
boyd 66
matt 67
boyce 59
bryan 57
craig 57
no spin 54
dub 61
PP 54(first timer!)


the final four:
JG 14 with a double circle 6, boyd screwed up neglected to remind the players of the drop zone.

no spin 12
PP 11
T2 15


thanks for an awesome turnout!


we raised $330 for the MD foodbank!





That looks like me defeating you 70-72.

And then there was this:

<font color="red">Druid Hill Ice Bowl Results </font>


By boyd on Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 10:59 pm:


only 13 miscues(ie, cursing...they were nice and set a $10 max.) the shark crushed me the second round by four strokes(probably still smiling) kudos to paul for running the druid ice bowl!!! even brought donuts and coffee.25 players.

box scores:
no spin 89
glen 92
bryan 97
JG 101
dean 102
phil d 103
shark 103
boyd 108
dub 109
boyce 109
paul w 109
tom p 110
JB 110
ski 111
blute 111
rich 114
hawk 115
matt r 119
don 120
smokin'joe 121(haha!)
paul l 123
mike k 126
rhonda 128
lindsay 133
kelly(aka skins fan) 134





Looks like me again crushing you 115-123.

Therefore Paul I believe that I am actually 2-0 against you in '04!

ok... i forgot about the rockburn icebowl. no excuse there. it's always most humiliating to lose to someone w/ as little skill as you.

the druid ice bowl is different. it was the first event i've ever td'd and was a little distracted. if you insist on counting that, at least point out that i td'd and only stepped up to play at the last minute. i'm willing to forgive any events that you td.

so... my record vs. hawk.... 3-1, year-to-date margin of victory (strokes) is 9.

Well you were Td'ing the Druid Bowl, but don't forget you were assisted greatly by Tom Paxton, who also beat you shooting a 110! :eek: :D

If you choose to count practice rounds to pump up your sagging ego, please feel free to do so. I think I'll focus on ratings, PDGA results, and other tourney results. :)

Did you bus to work today? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

no bus. a coworker lives up the street from me, she'll be giving me rides till i get a new clutch (hopefully wednesday).

so the md am tour is strictly a "practice" venue? i might have to resign. it's nice that when i beat you (even at your "home course" from the big boy tees), you fall back on the "that was only practice" excuse (the least valid of any).

You really shouldn't resign from the tour. It seems to be the only forum you can be competitive in! :D

how about if the food is just a burrito at baja fresh? ok, i know you don't have that much confidence yet. let's go 1$/1$/1$ for both rounds and overall. who's in?

not a confidence issue. i just don't like betting money i can't afford to lose (even if losing is not likely).

well, i'm about to find out how much of my towing bill insurance will pick up. based on that, i might take your bet.

<font color="blue">LATEST RATINGS UPDATE </font>

<font color="red">Hawk-846 </font>

<font color="purple">Paul-839 </font>

Oh look. One of us has taken the lead! :eek: Does anyone want to change their vote yet? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

You're still my
lil *******...

TT

hawk, you f-ing mongoloid! so you played one extra tournament and you're bragging w/ a wretched 846? you numbskull! you have no chance!

that one extra tournament only proves your paltry rating is well deserved. when i get one more tournament (loriella), the jump will be much more grand. then i'll have two under my belt by the end of march and you'll be in my dust :D

Scoreboard.

you goobers! if you spent half the time you spend jabbering at each other trying to get a club going for patapsco it would be up and running by now. i assume you two yahoos are in since you both play there often enough. i think it would be nice to get a flyer together and maybe give a cool patapsco disc with every membership. or we could just make it free. as long as there are no rules and no censorship. right, hawk?

you goobers! if you spent half the time you spend jabbering at each other trying to get a club going for patapsco it would be up and running by now. i assume you two yahoos are in since you both play there often enough. i think it would be nice to get a flyer together and maybe give a cool patapsco disc with every membership. or we could just make it free. as long as there are no rules and no censorship. right, hawk?



Whatever happened to the Patapsco Putters?

i'm not so hot on starting a patapsco club. i do see a need for an organized association to represent dg to the park, but starting a whole new club might not be the best way to do it.

i think the calvert flyers are a very well established club that would do well as a state club, w/ commitees for each course. i know making the flyers "the state club" has been considered, i don't know if it has legs, but i'm all for it (and would most definitly join then). people could be on multiple commitees for multiple courses. the club structure and communications are there, the club's identity needs to be defined. i'd be all for working with patapsco, druid and pine grove.

if the flyers are not heading in this direction, then maybe consider multiple course specific clubs, but i think the flyers are in a perfect position to be the "mother club" for all MD courses. all about unity here. FREESTATE FLYERS!

we're spoiled at druid because the city maintains the course very well with very little hassle (as far as i can see). tony has been a great liason in that regard. they mowed the course so much last year, throwing plastic around mowers became a pain in the [*****]. <insert more mowers than crackheads joke here>. a druid club could immediately focus on more, bigger sanctioned events or regular weekend tourneys. as i see it, the patapsco club would need to focus on park relations and support for current tourneys.

now that's thread drift!

Thanks Mr. Goober to you pal! :D


calvert flyers



Now there's an obscenity! :D


now that's thread drift!



How can there be thread drift when this is nothing but stream of consciousness? :confused:

As much as this disturbs me, I have to agree with Mr. 839 over there that starting up another club is rather impractical. You have two handfuls of people in the state who are willing to do the grunt work at courses. You're just going to have the same ten people in 19 clubs. How many membership cards does Lindsay really need?

For doing work at Patapsco that should be coordinated through Jim since he is the course pro of record. Just as at Seneca it's Craig. Bill at Rockburn etc.

Rich if you want one of my old headshots for a disc those are still available. The one of me in the pirate shirt is hot! ;) If you don't like that, how about me and Ski standing back to back shirtless? I'm talking major money making potential there. Wait my cell's ringing, I think Blute is already ordering 5!

To maintain the drift...

The need at Patapsco is a core group of users who feel a responsibility to maintain and improve upon the special use area designated for Disc Golf.

I think there are many recreational players who use the park and don't know that they can be a part of helping to maintain it.

So, in part I agree... the Flyers is a great group to be a part of what happens at Patapsco. But I also see a greater need to bring the other people who use the Disc Golf course into the fold.

Paulie and Hawkster - would you have any interest in helping me & the Ranger to remove some trees at Patapsco?

Is this clean-up effort clothing optional?

The need at Patapsco is a core group of users who feel a responsibility to maintain and improve upon the special use area designated for Disc Golf.

I think there are many recreational players who use the park and don't know that they can be a part of helping to maintain it.



isn't that what i was getting at? i still think the structure and communication has been established by the flyers. wouldn't the local recs be just as attracted by a state club w/ a commitee devoted to patapsco? i still don't see the advantage of trying to duplicate something that's already there (web page, concerned dger's that communicate, consolidated knowledge of history and goings on, etc). please explain the advantage of doing this from scratch and having multiple clubs that might require "memberships". we all know the bulk of the work load will not be shouldered by the rec players, but by that handful hawk mentions. if it is the rec players efforts we should pursue, then we should focus on that w/ the tools that we have-- not starting something new that already exists.

don't you think a statewide club might carry more weight than a fledgling group of rec players?


Paulie and Hawkster - would you have any interest in helping me & the Ranger to remove some trees at Patapsco?



i'd be more than willing to help, but you need to set a date before anyone can commit. i'm going to be tight on time over the next few weeks. maybe the sunday after next?

we should carry this discussion over to the md am tour thread. :p

OK.

Paul, I think you really have something good going on in your head :confused:. I don't think it needs to be a new club. I like your idea of a statewide club and different committees with local/seperate club focus points. The communications have been re-opened with the Park by yours truly. I will work on setting a date for the tree removal - thank you for helping (if the date meets your schedule) :D

I'll hang out and watch. Maybe do some posing. :)

as far as i have been able to ascertain, the flyers as state group has no legs. they are mostly only interested in calvert, though i'm sure they could be counted on to help. i think each course needs it's own core of people, no matter how small who act as liason and work on upkeep and improvements. no matter how small the group. it doesn't even have to be official really, it could be more like the rockburn crew.
maybe a better way to go is advertising to the recreational players. i saw alot of them out there last week, i'm sure some would volunteer to help, and a list of people would at least be a start to convincing them there IS a core of regular users...

I take exception to that rhmiracle, most of the Calvert Flyer's take an active interest in other Maryland courses as well as the beloved Calvert Road course.

I am not saying that the Calvert club should be THE Maryland club or that other Maryland courses should not have their own clubs.

Rich,

You are correct that people don't rush out to do the grunt work. Last year before the Patapsco Open it was Jim, Tom, a tardy Blute and myself doing the work. 60 will show for a tourney, but not to shovel.

if you read my post, it's more that the flyers don't want to be the freestate flyers, a md umbrella club. i specifically said they could be counted on to help though. if you think otherwise, why don't you try pushing something through at a meeting about representing patapsco also.

if you think otherwise, why don't you try pushing something through at a meeting about representing patapsco also.



What are you trying to say, rh? Are you formulating a 'new business' item for the Calvert Flyers to consider at the next meeting? Something about expanding efforts to Patapsco? A possible solution or leg for MD DG to start hopping around on? I'd be interested in hearing what you have to say about how to make something like that work. :D I'm not ragging on ya - I'm serious. I just don't quite understand what you are trying to say - what's the solution? How does it work in your mind?

Paul,

Rich and I are honoring you under our names! :D

let's keep the politicos off our smack talk thread :p

do we need an MD disc golf politics thread? bleccchhhh!

Paul, do you need me to draw you a map to loriella? we don't want you getting lost. also i have an alarm clock and a cell phone you can borrow.

r d r r...
i've got a cell phone, no map, but i'll take care of that today. it can't be that hard to find.

and yes my cell phone has an alarm.

i like your picture, a chicken blowing up is very appropriate! ;)

if only you knew rich :p

That's only because he couldn't find animation of someone yanking a drive into some trees off a tee at a 45 degree angle. A chicken suicide was the next best thing.

check in is by 9:30 at loriella, so we better leave by at least 7am. it shouldn't take more than 1.75 hours, but we better be sure. i have the motorhead cd in the truck to pump us up for a good beat down of paul. locals are talking wind and rain, but forcast here is sunny and 65.

ooops, not enough smack talk! and then we'll give paul the beat down of all beat downs and he'll have to run off to his his vacation with his tail between his legs.

I'm digging out cleats tonight. They'll either help with the conditions, or simply for walking all over Paul. :)

i have mine also. make sure to bring a few dx discs. when it's really raining hard it's the only thing you can grip. you need to have something to throw at paul!

I'm digging out cleats tonight. They'll either help with the conditions, or simply for walking all over Paul. :)




i have mine also. make sure to bring a few dx discs. when it's really raining hard it's the only thing you can grip. you need to have something to throw at paul!



man... is that the best you guys have? that's most unnerving :o girlie talks better smack than you schlubs :D

Like I said, Lil *******!
You'll probably both DNF.

Why are you wasting my bandwidth on such [*****].
TALK SMACK or Shut the (*****) Up!

Mr. 839,

It's tough to get worked up over a rivalry when the opponent (you) doesn't present any competition. Perhaps if you actually show up this time things can get moving forward. :eek:

is _T_T_ gonna be at loriella? i'm sure he'll be easy to pick out. i found his picture to help...

http://animatedtv.about.com/library/weekly/aa050101a.htm

you haven't beaten me in quite some time, and it won't be happening tomorrow. it's just a shame i'm gonna be away from a computer for so long to rub it in :D

Fortunately I'm willing to take that chance. You can read the summary of your debacle upon your return. If I was anticipating playing as badly as you will, I would leave the state also.

Well I'll be the better sport and report that Paul won our first head to head showdown of the year today at Loriella 120-127. We tied in the first round 60-60, but he handled the big winds in the second round better for a 60-67 edge. :(

Hopefully he will go to N.C. this week and get roughed up by the locals, and again in the Azalea Tourney. :)

On the plus side the MILF in the red shirt and jeans said howdy to me as we passed after the tourney proving that I've still got that going for me...which is nice! ;)

On the plus side the MILF in the red shirt and jeans said howdy to me as we passed after the tourney proving that I've still got that going for me...which is nice! ;)



weak :p
She probably felt sorry for you, since Paulie whipped you... 7 strokes!?!?! How could you let that happen? :p

Embarassing I know! :o

on the plus side , i whipped them both into submission, tying for 6th in adv.. i think i averaged a 930 round rating or so....
blute, boyce has your calvert series winnings and will mail them to you.

what winnings are those? I was unaware that I played enough events to qualify for any rewards... I'll PM you my address...

i believe it was a metal mini and possibly a disc or two.

Ratings for rounds at Loriella:
Paul - 843/877
Hawk - 843/801
Rich - 926/931
You guys have a lot of catching up to do. Hawk, you shot worse the second round over nearly the same course! A lot of those holes were 2 easy throws and a putt. Maybe instead of working on a forehand, work on playing for a three on holes like #3 down the pine tree tunnel! Paul is just lucky he was short on money and didn�t bet dinner(at least that was his excuse�)

i am sending my pre-reg to bluemont in today. if you want to go, practice just using a spider and a putter in the middle of the woods.

My round ratings at Loriella were:
749/790

Add in my 8 stroke/round handicap against Hawk and I would have beat him up all black and blue at Loriella if we had bet...

but that will have to wait for Sherando - look out Hawk... the girlie's coming for you :D!

Women are always chasing after me. ;)

Rich it wasn't the course so much as the wind that did me in. My pre-reg for Bluemont went out yesterday.

Lindsay's betting is simply going to pay for my SE Aviar when they become available. :D

yes, then you might want to consider adding a 4th disc to your arsenal. driver,mid, putter and an overstable like a firebird or an orc. something the wind won't flip out. i threw my firebird several times on those windy holes.

smack talk is at an all time low. i figured you would be piling it up on paul for his return. you must be out practicing instead.

Mr. Miracle,
I am saddled with tag 40 numero last, can you play at Calvert today at 4 or 4:45 so I can at least win your pathetic tag?

Sharky, that was an Am Tour post :eek:. If you want to organize play dates here, you need to include at least one disparaging comment about Paul's game. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

rockburn 4:45 i think i have # 18

oh yeah, and both paul and hawk can show up, but they probably won't as they can keep the disc in the fairway...

i leave for a week and the thread becomes hawk/md21954 vs. rich?

you're on for sherando hawk! if you've recovered from the whoopin at rocburn. i played like crap and still beat you by 3 strokes!

Well sure you can claim victory after I exhausted myself working/designing tees all day Saturday while you and a gang of five played with one tee for four hours. Let's see I shoveled three truckloads of crush to your two wheelbarrows. Hmmmmm....

Well sure you can claim victory after I exhausted myself working/designing tees all day Saturday while you and a gang of five played with one tee for four hours. Let's see I shoveled three truckloads of crush to your two wheelbarrows. Hmmmmm....



:D Hawk - you got WORKED! :D

i was clearing 16 and 17 also wreckin' ball.

hmmmmm... i remember between rounds at loriella you said something like, " i don't have to worry, paul has no stamina". well...

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=3944&year=2003&include_ratings=1#Open

i'm playing above my rating, you are not :D

oh yeah... i forgot to mention that i beat you despite you trying to chop my leg off on saturday. nice try. my leg is healing well.

i know you want to beat me really bad, but resorting to those tactics is pretty low.

keep your chin up hawk, there'll be better days :D

Next time I'll have you taken out professionally! :D

<font color="pink"> i'm playing above my rating, you are not </font>



Yeah like that's going to last Team Inconsistent. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif When you play a 938 round come back and talk. ;)

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=3944&year=2003&include_ratings=1#Open


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LEAP DAY RESULTS

Played At HC Purse S Purse

Rating Rating R1S R1HC R1Ratg R2S R2HC R2Ratg Tot S Tot HC 752 363

1 John McKee 900 954 64 55.50 910 54 45.5 997 118 101.00 100 10

2 Burt Kirby 884 940 60 50.14 947 61 51.14 932 121 101.28 80 9

3 Jake Azato 994 1023 54 53.49 1002 49 48.49 1044 103 101.98 60 40

<font color="red">4 Hawk Corrick 839 898 61 47.32 938 69 55.32 858 130 102.63 50 0</font>

5 Pat Pitts 1005 1027 51 51.43 1029 51 51.43 1025 102 102.85 40 60

6 Steve Johnson 947 977 57 52.50 974 56 51.50 979 113 103.99 35 14

7 Tom Kim 967 990 57 54.20 974 53 50.20 1006 110 104.39 30 23

8 Bernie Burrus 850 898 64 51.25 910 66 53.25 886 130 104.50 30 0

9 Lindsay Merce 785 843 68 49.73 874 74 55.73 812 142 105.45 25 0

10 Dave Huff 923 949 60 53.46 947 59 52.46 951 119 105.91 25 10

11 Tony Weichert 935 958 59 53.48 956 58 52.48 960 117 105.95 25 11

12 Paul Wojcik 920 944 61 54.20 938 59 52.20 951 120 106.40 20 9

13 Mark Boyce 956 967 58 54.26 965 57 53.26 969 115 107.52 20 12

14 Andy Caris 968 976 54 51.28 1002 59 56.28 951 113 107.56 20 13

15 Tony Dinisio 894 917 62 52.99 929 64 54.99 905 126 107.98 20 0

16 Dave Wellborn 900 921 65 56.50 901 60 51.50 942 125 108.00 20 6

17 Tom Paxton 872 898 66 55.12 892 64 53.12 905 130 108.24 20 0

18 John Bradway 979 981 55 53.22 993 57 55.22 969 112 108.43 20 17

19 Kelly Swartz 832 866 68 53.72 874 69 54.72 858 137 108.44 15 0

20 Pete Noble 917 930 62 54.95 929 61 53.95 932 123 108.89 15 7

21 Norm Eckstein 918 930 61 54.03 938 62 55.03 923 123 109.06 15 6

22 Steve Simpson 930 940 62 56.05 929 59 53.05 951 121 109.10 15 8

23 Sean Acton 931 940 58 52.14 965 63 57.14 914 121 109.27 15 8

24 Dave DeHart 850 875 71 58.25 846 64 51.25 905 135 109.50 13 0

25 Randy Dix 886 903 67 57.31 883 62 52.31 923 129 109.62 12 0

26 Craig Gangloff 1005 995 56 56.43 984 53 53.43 1006 109 109.85 12 30

27 Tom Transtrum 945 944 58 53.33 965 62 57.33 923 120 110.65 9

28 Heather Azato 804 834 71 54.34 846 73 56.34 821 144 110.68

29 Rich Myers 910 916 60 52.35 947 66 58.35 886 126 110.70

30 James Bailey 899 908 67 58.42 883 61 52.42 932 128 110.83

31 Phil Denhardt 935 935 61 55.48 938 61 55.48 932 122 110.95 7

32 Chris Beach 847 866 69 56.00 865 68 55.00 867 137 110.99

33 Bill Underwood 944 940 61 56.24 938 60 55.24 942 121 111.48 7

34 Mark Sherwood 927 926 64 57.80 910 60 53.80 942 124 111.59 6

35 Roel Dejong 840 857 72 58.40 837 67 53.40 877 139 111.80

36 Pat Murphy 912 912 65 57.52 901 62 54.52 923 127 112.04

37 Stephen Eckstrom 872 880 66 55.12 892 68 57.12 867 134 112.24

38 Dylan Behrens 920 917 64 57.20 910 62 55.20 923 126 112.40

39 John Acton 932 926 60 54.22 947 64 58.22 905 124 112.44 6

40 John McCord 915 912 64 56.78 910 63 55.78 914 127 112.55

41 Keith Weidemann 910 907 61 53.35 938 67 59.35 877 128 112.70

42 Mike Moser 1016 990 58 59.36 965 52 53.36 1016 110 112.72 20

43 Jim Myers 1007 981 55 55.60 993 57 57.60 969 112 113.19 15

44 George Brown 927 917 63 56.80 919 63 56.80 914 126 113.59

45 Bobby Severe 934 921 64 58.39 910 61 55.39 932 125 113.78

46 Rachel Mansir 900 894 64 55.50 910 67 58.50 877 131 114.00

47 Jim Vilkaitis 861 861 66 54.19 892 72 60.19 830 138 114.37

48 Kelly Dunnavant 910 898 62 54.35 929 68 60.35 867 130 114.70

49 Tom Garber 940 921 61 55.90 938 64 58.90 905 125 114.80

50 Charlie George 829 834 68 53.47 874 76 61.47 793 144 114.93

51 John Merhi 912 898 61 53.52 938 69 61.52 858 130 115.04

52 Will Lydick 854 852 68 55.59 874 72 59.59 830 140 115.18

53 Rhonda Ritter 798 802 78 60.83 782 73 55.83 821 151 116.66

54 Chris Hysell 976 940 61 58.96 938 60 57.96 942 121 116.92 7

55 Shannon Lally 926 898 69 62.71 865 61 54.71 932 130 117.42

56 Alex Prudhomme 880 861 63 52.80 919 75 64.80 803 138 117.60

57 DJ 875 857 71 60.38 846 68 57.38 867 139 117.75

58 Peter Okorn 890 866 71 61.65 846 66 56.65 886 137 118.30

59 Vernon McCarter 905 875 67 58.93 883 68 59.93 867 135 118.85

60 Beth Rhoderick 735 742 85 62.48 718 79 56.48 766 164 118.95

61 Max Kuller 900 871 70 61.50 855 66 57.50 886 136 119.00

62 John O\'Gorman 950 907 62 57.75 929 66 61.75 886 128 119.50

63 Kevin Johnson 934 894 66 60.39 892 65 59.39 895 131 119.78

64 Tom Edwards 935 885 73 67.48 828 60 54.48 942 133 121.95

65 Linda Azato 679 682 87 59.72 700 90 62.72 664 177 122.43

66 Rick Honn 860 820 76 64.10 800 71 59.10 840 147 123.20

67 Matt Garber 849 811 75 62.17 810 74 61.17 812 149 123.33

68 Bobby Noble 904 852 70 61.84 855 70 61.84 849 140 123.68

69 Tom Traver 800 604 99 82.00 590 95 78.00 617 194 160.00




:)

hey knucklehead,

the subject is me vs you, not you vs the rest of the dg world. i'd have crushed you had my clutch not given out.

I'll explain this slowly so you can follow...

I offered that as an example of a very highly rated round that:

a. you can't achieve :eek:
b. are lucky it was unsanctioned :(

Resume money laundering.

are you going to try to pull ANOTHER tonya harding on me before sherando sissy boy? :D

(have to give credit to lindsay for the nancy kerrigan reference!)

I missed the reference. There might be a Tour Stop on Saturday depending on how much stuff I need to get done before the road trip. I can Gilooly you then! :D

Not everything SMACK makes it into this most public domain :D... Sorry if this hurts you, Hawk, but we've been talking smack behind your back, AHhh!

I simply told Paul not to let you Nancy Kerrigan him again ;)!

Exluding me from witty banter? I see how you are! :eek: That just makes me want that Sherando dollar from you even more! :mad:

That just makes me want that Sherando dollar from you even more!



Not a chance, Hawkster... not a chance /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Besides... I think Paul was really just starting to work on his list of excuses as to why I BEAT him at SHERANDO! :eek: :cool:

<font color="red"> You may want to start working on your own list... </font> :D

<font color="pink">You may want to start working on your own list... </font>



No need. I have one laminated and in my bag at all times.

Pauls list is shorter. His simply is like a flashcard that says... <font color="green">I suck </font>

I'm not worried about defeating you as I have taken out the Queen of Maryland Women (Ms. Mansir) several times recently.

the Queen of Maryland Women (Ms. Mansir)



You do know that Queeny stands for Queen of the Short Bus, right? :p

:D

Good Job, Hawk - you can beat one girl :o! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Thank you for your support. :cool:

After Sherando I will add you and Paul to my list of female victims. :eek: I believe we are giving you strokes correct? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

You are giving me 8 strokes/round.

Paul is giving me 7 strokes/round.

I won't need all of them, but I like to have a good cushion... prepare for the massacre :eek: :p :D :cool:

8 and 7 huh? Have these numbers been Gangloffed yet? :D

I guess I'm giving you an additional stroke since I'm better than Paul. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif ;)

LMAO!

Actually the Craiger method would afford us the following strokes based on our current ratings in a handicap event.

Hawk - 13.09
Paul - 13.685
Lindsay - 21.08

The difference between our handicaps is 7.99 rendering me 8 strokes per round from you and the difference between me and Paul is 7.395 rendering me 7 strokes per round. I decided to leave the decimal places off in order to avoid the difficulties in calculating final scores (you know the park closes at dark ;)) and simply round the numbers with anything .5 or over being rounded up and .49 and under rounded down.

If you would like to make any alterations to our bet, please present your suggestions prior to the start of the first round :Dand they will be discussed.


PS, I know you're scared! :p

(you know the park closes at dark )



Curiously I had a recent experience very similar to that.


PS, I know you're scared!




Never mistake fear with anticipation my dear!

I believe we are doing the standard dollar ladies bet? If we tourney together enough, Rich can eventually get desert on the way home from one of these roadtrips.

You could try a dollar per round when you are both playing the same courses each round.

I don't know if she wants to lose that much money Duke. :D

Poor Paul has become an afterthought on his own thread! :eek:

I don't know if she wants to lose that much money Duke.



I have faith that she will rise to the occasion. :cool:

Actually Hawk - when you consider what gnduke is proposing... the handicap system DOES work best when applied to one round vs. multiple rounds...

So, how about $1/$1/$2?

Wait, let me break that down for you so you don't get confused :confused: :D

$1 on the First Round
$1 on the Second Round
$2 for Overall

The 8 stroke/round handicap still applies...

Get ready to lighten your wallet :D

Thanx Gary ;)!

I shall prevail!

:cool:

So let's see I win one round and a dollar. You win the second round by a smaller margin, and a dollar. Then I win $2 for the overall. Hmmmmmmmmm...I think I prefer the simplicity of $1 per round. That way you only lose two dollars.

Is Duke bankrolling you? :)

It could be a reasonable investment. We'll have to see how it plays out.

I think I prefer the simplicity of $1 per round...
Is Duke bankrolling you?



It's okay to say it, Hawk! I understand that you don't have that extra $2 to lose to me so I'll let you off the hook on that one. :) $1 per round for each round.

Shall we put an e handshake on that? :D

Well I did just get these fancy Aviars! :cool:

Okay so it's $1 for the first round, and $1 for the second round. I like that because that gives you hope to break even after halftime only to have the dream crushed. :D

i get a treat everytime i crush you girlie boys(and girlie girl). i would give you a handicap but it is obvious your handicaps aren't correct! also i will probably have to play the long course WHILE YOU GUYS ARE RELEGATED TO THE KIDDIE POOL!

True Rich. Clearly you should give us more strokes! :D

I guess I'm giving you an additional stroke since I'm better than Paul. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif ;)



you proved that real well the past umteen times we've played hawk. 801 in the second round at loriella.... nice.

smack on the board and excuses on the course \start whiny hawk voice [it's my back... but you play 6 times a week... i thought it was pretty couragous of me to start this bet]. true... i've heard it all.

i've done some calculating. fortunately for you hawk, if we were to calculate ratings right now your 801 will be dropped and we will both be 846 :mad: let's see how bad i beat you at sherando (another course i haven't played).

i've done some calculating. fortunately for you hawk, if we were to calculate ratings right now your 801 will be dropped and we will both be 846



You are BOTH in some <font color="red"> serious trouble </font>... I'm bring extra tissues so that you will have something to wipe the tears from your eyes after I wipe the floor with the 2 of you. ;)

Paul's in at Sherando and IT'S ON!

Oh, BTW Paul - the bet is now $1/$1 - best score per round. (I wanted to throw in a $2 overall as well, but Hawk was afraid to lose that much $$ to me :D)

Another course I haven't played either, so another fair challenge.

Druid at 1545 today? :D

Oh sorry I have to work. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Wow, hawk won't even do a standard $1 Nassau :confused:

I guess he just worked too hard at the Rock :D

Druid at 1545 today? :D

Oh sorry I have to work. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



hawk- don't hate the playa...

lindsay- try to back it up this time better than @ loriella :D you shot well, but not well enough /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Wow, hawk won't even do a standard $1 Nassau




I don't even know what that is! :D


I guess he just worked too hard at the Rock



Next time I'll bring the camera, and you bring the shovel Shark. :)

looks like it may be windy sunday. will hawk have the advantage with his new wind discs? will he be out all day friday(it's supposed to be real windy) practicing? will paul's talk about how he is the better wind player turn out to be hot air? it's all on the line sunday! these 1$ bets are weak. how about loser pays for gas, or first round loser buys us lunch?

hawk, between rounds at loriella, score is tied---

paul has no stamina, he'll choke like he always does


i went on to shoot seven strokes better as my near masters age adversary complained that he has no game in the wind and his back hurts.

puhlease... hawk has no skills or chance. i'm focused, my game is coming around and i will take any and all bets hawk wants to step up to. it's like taking candy from a baby :D

although 70% were proven wrong on the 'me vs. girlie' thread, 70% will be right here. how come hawk didn't see fit to announce girlie thrashing him (w/ the handicap)?

hawk-- bring that laminated excuse card and whiny voice. "my back hurts", "but you practice all the time", "i can't play in wind", "it was courageous of me to challenge you in the first place" (i'd almost agree w/ the last one sans courageous, more like foolish).

btw... the idea is for your rating to go up (nice 801!) :D

Well now if you are referring to Lindsay beating me at Seneca (w/ handicap) that didn't happen. I came in fourth, to her ninth or so. Rumors of $ exchanging between myself and Mr. Gangloff are greatly exagerrated.

Rich my windy discs aren't scheduled to arrive until Friday, so Saturday will be the test run. Though I have thrown all of them in the past, so adjusting shouldn't be to hard if I need to use them.

Very "masculine" avatar Paul. :eek:

Hawk and I did not bet a Loriella, but you are correct Paul - I would have beat him with the handicap...

Let's not bring the sham into this please. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Just another bitter defeated opponent. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Just bring your $$ to Sherando and leave your whining at home :eek:!

:p

That's a lot of tough talk coming from someone with a little girl dancing avatar! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif I seem to recall only having ever taken money from the ladies, and never having to pay out. Obviously I include Paul in that statement.

Paul have you noticed how Rich is trying to horn in on the action here?


or first round loser buys <font color="red">us </font> lunch?




Isn't he rated about 70 points higher than us? I don't hear him offering us strokes :confused:

i'll give you ladies strokes if we play the same course.if not we'll have to base it on how many points above(or below in your case) we are, based on our rating i guess. if you think i'm afraid of you girls, think again!

Lindsay, I believe Rich is speaking to you! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Hawk, Paul and I have determined handicap strokes by the Craiger method... (1000-PR/10).85

Want to lose another $1/$1 Rich? I already got you at Seneca :eek:...

If you give me 13 strokes per round (based on your 910 vs. my 752), you're on! One dollar for best score (with handicap) per round (for as many rounds as we play the same tees :D).

The other girls can speak for themselves :o:p :D :cool:

Rich you're being called out! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

i'm going to beat up on rich today at rocburn.

carpooling w/ hawk and rich to sherando presents hawk plenty of opportunity to pull ANOTHER tonya harding on me.

off to the roc... be prepared to hear hawk whine about me practicing too much.

I've seen you play. You could never practice too much.

you're on girlie. btw, your tag is 34. which after today is better than sherwood AND paul. the only thing paul whipped up on was the trees!

Rich no box scores on the Tour thread? :confused:

rich - 60
shark - 62
paul - 66

not positive these are actual and correct as shark had the card. shark put on a hard run to try to close at the end, carding like a 75ft putt for a duece on 16. then i put my second shot on 17 behind a tree and missed a forehand lean putt. shark smelt blood and called long on 18. but i matched him 4 for 4 and snuffed his valiant comeback attempt. paul beat the hell out of some trees with some really shanked drives , but kept fighting and i think finished at a very respectable 66.

Wrong thread :( Geeesssshhhh :p

Today at Sherando Paul squeaked out a narrow two stroke win over me in even worse winds than we experienced two weeks ago at Loriella. It appears that the pressure is getting to Paul. This would explain his unprovoked physical assault on me during pre tourney putting warm-ups where he attempted to re-injure my sprained throwing wrist with some sort of karate chop. :eek: It was also amusing to watch him frantically calculate the scores every two holes on the second round back nine to see where things stood. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Kudos to Paul though for winning the CTP on hole #4 in the second round. :D

didn't he also win the women's ctp?

It appears that the pressure is getting to Paul. This would explain his unprovoked physical assault on me during pre tourney putting warm-ups where he attempted to re-injure my sprained throwing wrist with some sort of karate chop. :eek:



LOL... it was a brush on the wrist, maybe those refs from the MD/SU b-ball game would have called it a foul, but that's a stretch. nonetheless, i'll be more careful when goofing off w/ peeps of your advanced age. at least you didn't use it for an excuse.

somewhere buried in that sad post is the fact that i beat hawk again, and my rating is climbing higher and faster :D

Bored Review: 3-22-04


By paul on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 09:18 am:


let me know if you'd like me to help w/ scoring, calculating payouts, counting cards, whatever. i can bring a laptop and have a nice program written to make things easy.

thanks





Hmmm... Sounds like Paul is laying the ground work for the excuse he used for his Druid Ice Bowl defeat.

"I was running the tourney. My play doesn't count!"

hawk,

excuses? what's that excuse you laid on me when i beat you by 8 strokes at patapsco on saturday and 2 strokes despite an "off" performance yesterday. refresh my memory please.

if i were you, i'd find a corner and keep my mouth shut w/ my tail between my legs until i actually had something to back it up OR head out to patapsco and start practicing ASAP.

my rating will be higher than yours after the release (even w/ your 7 pt head start). 70% can't be wrong (except on the girlie thread :D).

70% can't be wrong (except on the girlie thread )



Come On, Paul! We all know that was a popularity contest :eek: and that I WON :D!

But you did manage to beat me at Sherando... my 74 + 89 = 163 was a pitiful showing in the wind and snow... I'll get you my pretty! And you're little Hawk, too!

Next trial - the Patapsco PRO/AM on April 3rd :cool:

Next trial - the Patapsco PRO/AM on April 3rd :cool:



you're on! i've been playing real well at PAULTAPSCO as of late. but there is a date correction methinks...

Tentative Pro Am Schedule
WHERE: Patapsco Valley State Park/McKeldin Area
WHEN: Saturday, April 10th, 2004
TEE TIME: 10:00am
WHAT: 2 ROUNDS OF 18 HOLES /PDGA "C" TIER
ENTRY FEES:
All Pro Divisions $40
Advanced Am $30
Intermediate Am $25
Recreational $15
*A minimum of 3 participants are required to host a division
All Am/Recreational divisions will receive a players package of a T Shirt and Mini

My bad! You are correct, Sir.

Next trial is the Patapsco PRO/AM
April 10th

(I'm getting ahead of myself and forgot that I won't be able to make Bluemont. Good Luck to all who compete at Bluemont!)

patapsco work day 3/27(hope you guys can help)
bluemont 4/3(if paul registers real quick!)
patapsco 4/10(wonder if the gnome will show?)

Hey, Hawk or Paul- can you help me out here? I can't seem to find the thread with the post that reads:

Woman rated 835 wins dollars from men (boys?) with 839/846 ratings in straight-up, non-ratings-based competition!

Ahhh... I think this is the beginning of a beautiful year of upsets. Dollar says I have a better rating than BOTH of you by the end of the year! :D <font color="green"> </font>

I would take that bet simply because it would save me money on all those individual dollar bets! :)

Awww, you didn't understand. I'm taking the "End of the Year" dollar IN ADDITION to the individual dollar bets.

Sorry for the confusion... :D

That's vicious! :D

Vicious? I'll tell you what's vicious- my star rating went from 5 to 1, in the last hour... I have to blame Paul.

I think I'm gonna cry. :D

Don't cry!

I just rated you 5 stars! :D

Good luck in the Team Event this weekend... I know if Paul and Hawk were going to be there - you would beat them both to a bloody pulp in the cow patties. :cool:

Thanks, Girlie! (sniff, sniff)

Here is my attempt at making up with Paul, by stroking his ego. (an unfortunate side-effect will be the bruising of Hawk's ego, but that just can't be helped.)

Bored review: posted By Mark S on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 02:05 pm:


Paul nipped the hawk to remain unbeaten in 04 by the hawk. (Like that is something to brag about)




Feel better, Paul? Do you forgive me? GIVE ME MY STARS BACK! (sniff, sniff)

Sounds to me like you are begging for 5 stars.

Again I would have to point out that I defeated him at both the Druid and Rockburn Ice Bowls this calendar year. That would make us 2-2 in tournament action so far.

I can't believe Lindsay has four to my two. Time to trash Gangloff I guess! :D

Oh you little biotch :eek:!

I had four stars long before the Leap Day Sham! :D

Well it's either that, or I'm going to start playing in sandals! :)

Now that's a good idea :D!

You can find some great sandals here (http://www.chacousa.com/jsp/products/performance2.jsp?sandal=z2#) .

:cool:

Vicious? I'll tell you what's vicious- my star rating went from 5 to 1, in the last hour... I have to blame Paul.

I think I'm gonna cry. :D



i never touched your stars!

i never touched your stars!


... You're going to let that remark slide, Hawk? There are so many different directions this could go... let's start with:

Relax, Paul- touching another girl's stars is only a sin AFTER you are married! :o:D

But seriously, Paul- I'm sorry I blamed you for taking my stars. I should have known it was Hawk from the get-go. When he gave me the dollar at Sherando he was shaking... I had thought it was the cold but now I know it was rage. :D

At least I wasn't begging for someone to rub BenGay on my backside! ;)

Don't confuse rage with a desperate need to visit the mens room! :D

That wasn't Ben-***.

Relax, Paul- touching another girl's stars is only a sin AFTER you are married! :o:D



i'll touch your stars if you touch mine :D

:D And make Hawk jealous? No way! :o:D

All star-touching aside, you have managed to sidestep the real issue... dollar says my rating is better than yours at the end of the year! :D

i'll take that bet (only because it's just 1 dollar :D)!

funny thing is, i'm actually worried about that bet because it'll probably be close. what's that say about hawk's game? i'm worried about losing to kelly, but not hawk. /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

i was practice putting yesterday for a good while (200x) and emptied my bag a few times. let's see if i can top my 5 TNT wins this year (only twice w/ myers).

I too would accept Kelly's year long ratings bet, but clearly she views me as more of a threat than Paul since it wasn't offered to me. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiight...

i'm sure that's the case :p it's kind of amusing to see the BS smack you've tried to lay down on this thread, and have yet to back it up.

i'm almost starting to feel bad about leaving you in the dust so bad hawk. maybe you'll find your niche at the olympics you seem to be so excited about. you know... those "special" ones you're looking forward to so much?

what's that excuse you laid on me at paultapsco last saturday when i beat you by 8 strokes?

is there such a thing as an "age" handicap? i'll consider giving that one to you, if you want it.

Posted by Hawkgammon on 03/23/04 02:25 PM
I would take that bet simply because it would save me money on all those individual dollar bets!


Ahhh, how quickly you forget! I thought our wager was already locked and loaded- do I have to beg? :D

And, to clear up any confusion- I see neither one of you as a threat... I see you as being EASY MONEY :eek: :D

In my case I am both...

Easy & Money /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

you were pretty familiar w/ sherando and loriella right? nice wins... i know you're getting better fast, but let's see what happens at paultapsco! what did we shoot last time we played there?

don't worry, i found the scores....

Shark-60
Rich-61
Paul-63
Hawk-68
Kelly-69
(from the big boy tees)

even hawk beat you /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif now THAT is bad! :D

Loriella, yes- but it was only my second time playing Sherando. If you want to draw swords regarding winning at home courses, wouldn't that explain how you won at Paultapsco? I've played there a total of 5 times, twice from the big boy tees. Just wait until I get some more practice there, you'll be sorry... :D

Big deal- so you beat me by 6 strokes from the long tees. :p Care to post the Sherando results, for our viewing pleasure? :eek: :D

actually, hawk is the one who lists paultapsco as his home course, LOL :D i just happen to play well there (relative to other courses). druid is my homie course, and i don't play as well there as i used to :(

keep your chin up hawk, there'll be better days! :D

I find Paul's self destructing avatar sooooooooo ironic. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I find Paul's self destructing avatar sooooooooo ironic. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



how so? who's been self destructing?

let's see...
loriella-- paul shoots a 60/60-120, hawk shoots a 60/67-127.

sherando-- over 2 windy 20 hole rounds paul shoots a 71/77-148 but put on the afterburners after falling behind by 4 strokes on the first 5 holes of the second round to take the round by a stroke, hawk shoots a 72/78-150 to lose, again. :confused:

i think the record speaks for itself. keep livin' in that dreamworld hawk :D

<font color="pink">my forehand is back, hawk. you have no chance at paultapsco!
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boy... i could throw left handed and you'd still have no chance at paultapsco!

you still haven't reminded me what that excuse was when i beat you by seven strokes last time... refresh my memory please :confused:

off to practice at druid again today, super nine if not too crowded.

<font color="pink"> boy... i could throw left handed and you'd still have no chance at paultapsco! </font>



:D

still won't pony up that excuse? :D

Final scores were:

Glen-64
Jim B.-66
<font color="red">Hawk-68</font>
<font color="yellow">Paul-74</font>






<font color="pink">fans, please rest assured. i will do much better when it counts on saturday.
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Curious how Paul always wanted to stress the importance & value of these casual rounds in the past, but now that he got spanked...while I was testing a new disc mind you...he changes his tune. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I guess we now know why he didn't show at Bluemont. ;)


<font color="green"> none of us smoke cigarettes (anymore) </font>



Well you started huffing away about seven holes into the round yesterday. :DWas the pressure getting to you? :eek:


<font color="purple">didn't keep a card, but it's a safe bet i beat your 73 </font>



Please see above. Note this was from the shorter tees yesterday. This was also after Paul received a one round private lesson from local pro Glen.


<font color="blue"> my forehand is back, hawk. you have no chance at paultapsco!
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I assume you mean to defeat you by double digits. :D


<font color="orange"> breaking news!!! unable to talk smack w/ md21954, hawkgammon resorts to picking on a 752 rated girlie!
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Well since Lindsay took your tag from you at Patapsco last year, I figured I'd find someone to compete with.

hawk finally eeks out a casual victory and the flood gates open! how long have you been planning that one? when was the last time you beat me before sunday? :confused:

so i had a bad day. i didn't make any excuses. learn from that! let's see how we do when it counts on saturday. again, you have yet to beat me in any single round at any event that matters to this thread. ya know? ratings wise, i mean.

i might not have kept a card last time i played paultapsco, but i know for sure my pro tee score was under 70.

btw... you can't come up w/ anything better than paula? i used to think you were wittier than that :(

Well how can I beat you at an event when you keep ducking me? :confused:

Though to your credit, unlike Raines, you knew the correct day of the Bluemont event! :D

After your narrow victory at Sherando, you've decided to play two divisions above your rating in a desperate attemtpt to avoid a head to head battle.

Your margin of victory lately runs something like:

-6 strokes better over two rounds at Loriella.
-2 strokes better over two rounds at Sherando.
+6 strokes worse in one round at "Paul"tapsco. :D

no ducking at bluemont. you even admitted yesterday that you are lucky i couldn't make it. and besides, in this contest, there is no ducking on an event by event basis. the real event is boosting ratings all year long. showing at bluemont would have only helped me. if you placed second there, i certainly would have won!

again, please figure this one out-- when was the last time you beat me, anywhere, anytime, before sunday? months ago?


After your narrow victory at Sherando, you've decided to play two divisions above your rating in a desperate attemtpt to avoid a head to head battle.



again, even though i've beat you at all events we've played head-to-head at, i'm more concerned about boosting my ratings. is this your way of trying to get me to wimp out like you and play in the lil kids division again at paultapsco? not gonna happen. i'll be pointing and laughing when you get stuck on the card w/ the juniors in the second round (like you always do).

i've raised the bar. i DARE you to follow! :D

you even admitted yesterday that you are lucky i couldn't make it.



Curiously I don't recall saying that. I do recall saying you should have come.

Well there are those two Ice Bowl victories over you that you oh so conveniently forget about all the time. Then let's see I had surgery, and was out of action for a month, and now after being back in action for a month, the noose tightens. ;)

I would think that a person in your occupation would be horrified at the trend here. If you were a mutual fund wouldn't you advise a client to get out? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

what about saying it was such lefty/short flick course and you were worried that it suited my game?

we'll settle this yet AGAIN at paultapsco.

you playing up sissyboy? :D

I would think that a person in your occupation would be horrified at the trend here. If you were a mutual fund wouldn't you advise a client to get out? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



i don't advise and can't comment.

Saying that it suited your "game" is not the same as being worried. You and worried don't enter the same sentence for me.

Can you still claim the course name after finishing a distant fourth in a four man field? :confused:

Playing up would only eliminate any defense you could make for your failure. I feel the need to give you an out in the name of sportsmanship! :D

rrrrrrrright... explain to me exactly how playing above my rating is wimping out? :confused:

obviously, based on results this year that will be updated here at pdga.com soon, you are not challenging me in intermediate. i need to seek out a challenge to get better.

I too am looking for the next challenge above you...I guess that would be Kelly.

I too am looking for the next challenge above you...I guess that would be Kelly.



could very well be. kelly is good and getting better, but i suggest you keep your sights set on me until you beat me when it counts towards ratings:D

i need to seek out a challenge to get better.




Well, buddy boy - you've found me :D!

$1 says I beat your *** at Patapsco :eek: - and I am playing advanced so we will be playing the same tees. Oh, and I don't need no stinkin' handicap :p.

I've got that good karma going for me because I DID SHOW for the work day last Saturday. :p And I plan on taking you DOWN this Saturday... (plus, I have beaten you down there before and my game has improved since so I'm really not concerned)

Oh, a word of advice... when you say you're "playing up" I hope you don't mean to the PRO level, because then you will be competing against Schweb and Mad Cracken (opps, I meant to say that you will be adding cash to the purse for the Caro boyz :o).

See you all on Saturday!

<font color="pink">$1 says I beat your *** at Patapsco </font>



Check out Ms. Potty Mouth! :D

Now I believe she's talking to you Paul. Apparently your rep is so bad now, that she doesn't want the eight strokes! :eek: :o

Lucky for you Paxton is offering a recreational division.

Oh, a word of advice... when you say you're "playing up" I hope you don't mean to the PRO level, because then you will be competing against Schweb and Mad Cracken (opps, I meant to say that you will be adding cash to the purse for the Caro boyz :o).

See you all on Saturday!



i'm not that dumb. that's awesome that they are coming though!

sorry for not making it out on saturday. i had every intention to, but i woke up saturday morning to find myself out-of-state and not in the condition to help much. the course looks great!

i'm playing advanced and (though i feel weird saying this to someone who has yet to beat me this year even with a BIG handicap) you're on! thanks in advance for the dolla!

who's off on friday and heading to paultapsco to practice all day? i'll be out there a couple times this week also. i love daylight savings time! :cool:

Paul, go easy on the practice the day before a turney, save that arm!

Paul claims he can play 72 holes on Friday no problem.

Getting worried about your horse in the race Professor?

You got it Hawk, my horse looks good on paper but get him out of the barn and he seems to lack good judgement. Anyone have any ideas on how I can raise Pauls' disc IQ :confused:

i appreciate the advice, and i'm glad you care shark. it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy

i'll worry about wearing my arm out when i approach your advanced age (the professor and hawkgayman! here on giligan's isle!).

Anyone have any ideas on how I can raise Pauls' disc IQ




Good question, Shark!

I plan on schooling Mr. Paultapsco on Saturday - you are welcome to watch :D...

"remember the sherando!"

I remember a lot of huffing and puffing like from a big bag of wind :confused:. Oh never mind I get the comparison now! :D

Ah yes... I do remember the Sherando.

That was the very tournament where after you saw my performance in the first round you indicated to me that you no longer wished to grant me handicap strokes for future bets :p.

Well, bring your dolla 'cause I'm going to pry it from your grubby little claws after I beat you on Saturday :eek:!

:cool: