Thank you PDGA for adding the feature of providing a number showing how many players in each division. Very helpful!!

Ganz the manz :-)

Perhaps next improvement to consider might be showing the place players are currently in while a tournament is underway and early round scores are posted. Any chance for that Steve? (BTW, good luck at the Fling.)

The place next to the players name is exactly what I was thinking too. If that's not overwhelming to do it would be great. The way I've been playing I can loose count before I get to my name to see how I finished.

The place next to the players name is exactly what I was thinking too. If that's not overwhelming to do it would be great. The way I've been playing I can loose count before I get to my name to see how I finished.
Place is calculated and published automatically once the tournament is finished and marked as complete by the tournament director.

Displaying places while the tournament is in progress is on my to-do list.

Displaying places while the tournament is in progress is on my to-do list.

Done. Places are now calculated and displayed after the completion of each round.

Thank you for programming so many small but cool improvements to the stats area. Do you think you could create a complete process for doubles tournaments? The pre-tournament display of pre-reg, the TD report and the unofficial results for doubles don't really work very well when using the singles template.

Thank you for programming so many small but cool improvements to the stats area. Do you think you could create a complete process for doubles tournaments? The pre-tournament display of pre-reg, the TD report and the unofficial results for doubles don't really work very well when using the singles template.
Absolutely. This is on the to-do list.

Steve, is it possible to go back to the way you guys used to post official results for tourneys, where you posted them every week as you processed the TD Reports? This year you switched to only updating the unofficial results to official when each ratings update comes out.

I ask because I calculate SoCal Series points for the SCDGA based on official PDGA results, and there are long waits between updates with your new process.

Thanks for considering it. :)

Steve, is it possible to go back to the way you guys used to post official results for tourneys, where you posted them every week as you processed the TD Reports? This year you switched to only updating the unofficial results to official when each ratings update comes out. The switch was made to keep the unofficial ratings up for as long as possible since that is what players care most about. On my list of things to do is incorporating unofficial ratings with official results. Best of both worlds. Not sure when it will get done, but it will happen.

The switch was made to keep the unofficial ratings up for as long as possible since that is what players care most about. On my list of things to do is incorporating unofficial ratings with official results. Best of both worlds. Not sure when it will get done, but it will happen.

That makes complete sense. :)

My problem is that unofficial results frequently contain errors when the TD or helper rushes to upload the results that the players clamor for. Then I'd have to re-do the SoCal points with the official results. If only every SoCal player were a PDGA member, then my macros and formulae would make it a trivial exercise. Unfortunately I have to manually look up a bunch of SoCal memberships, depending on the tourney. But then again, all of that is my problem. :D

What are the chances of inserting a players pix next to hi name on the Profile page?

what are the chances of inserting a players pix next to hi name on the profile page? 100%

Since we are working on the wish list...I've thought of this before, but a thread on DGCR reminded me about it. It would be nice to be able to look up a player and see not only official results, but what tournaments a player is pre-registered for. This way someone could see where their favorite player might be playing near them.

I think titles and distinctions would be a great addition to a players page.

When I see Climo, I want to see 12X World champ, 5X US Champ, 2012 Masters Champ X time PDGA player of the year.

Or when you look at a PDGA board member or State coordinator or something like that, that distinction.

Since we are working on the wish list. It would be nice to be able to look up a player and see not only official results, but what tournaments a player is pre-registered for. Done. http://www.pdga.com/player_stats/42541

http://www.pdga.com/discussion/attachment.php?attachmentid=1077&stc=1&d=1346441451

Cool, thx. Steve I think you are doing a fantastic job on the website. Thanks.

Excellent. Thank you.

Wow. That's awesome. Something I've wanted for a long time.

Steve, excellent job on the recent improvements! :D

Currently the Ratings Detail page shows all the round ratings in the timeframe that might go into a player's current rating.
The Ratings History page shows all of a player's past player ratings.

Another suggestion I have is: a complete "Ratings Detail/History" on the player pages. I'd like to be able to see all of a player's past round ratings on one page. I think it would look something like the current Ratings Detail page, with the addition of the player's player rating at the time the round was played, and, obviously, all of their rounds played. Sortable columns would be useful there. You could then quickly see a list of a player's all-time best (or worst) rounds. This wouldn't necessarily have to be a new page, it might just be an enhancement to the current Ratings Detail page.

Thanks!

Steve, is it possible to go back to the way you guys used to post official results for tourneys, where you posted them every week as you processed the TD Reports? This year you switched to only updating the unofficial results to official when each ratings update comes out.The switch was made to keep the unofficial ratings up for as long as possible since that is what players care most about. On my list of things to do is incorporating unofficial ratings with official results. Best of both worlds. Not sure when it will get done, but it will happen. Unofficial Results with unofficial ratings will now display until Official Results have been officially rated. This will enable us to officially process results more frequently while still displaying unofficial ratings.

If you're like Rhett and you want to see the Official Results as soon as they're available prior to the next ratings update, just append '/official' to the end of the URL.

Example:

Unofficial Results
http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/78334

Official Results
http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/78334/official

If you append '/official' to the end of a URL and the results still say 'Unofficial Results' that means the results have not been officially processed yet.

http://www.pdga.com/announcements/the-pdga-tournament-manager

Steve, do you have any visibility into whether or not the availability of this tool will change the existing process where the membership spreadsheet is delivered to TDs the week of their event? This tool should be great when handling pre-reg before the event, but the morning of the event I'm taking registrations off-line and need to be able to do these checks off-line. I don't have net access again until the event is over.

btw I really like the way you handled the results unofficial/official-pending/official dilemma. Good job.

Steve, do you have any visibility into whether or not the availability of this tool will change the existing process where the membership spreadsheet is delivered to TDs the week of their event? Yes, it's a time consuming process we'd like to eliminate.
The morning of the event I'm taking registrations off-line and need to be able to do these checks off-line. I don't have net access again until the event is over. Fair enough, let's work together to figure out a solution for you and those in the same situation. How about printing it out or saving as PDF to take with you? Would that suffice?

Currently, I have my laptop with me at an event and import the data into a spreadsheet so that I can do automatic lookups. As I add a player to the TD report by their PDGA #, Their name, membership status and ratings/age eligibility is instantly filled in. (I know I have shared these tools with you before.) If I have to manually look up this information in a PDF, it will slow down registration. There are other TDs in our area that are doing something similar so I know I am not the only one.

From an office point of view, how would generation of a PDF save time over generating a spreadsheet? I don't really care if the data is in Excel or a CSV file, but I don't want to have to scrape the data out of a PDF and transform it into something usable in Excel.

What if there was an option in the Tournament Manager to generate and download a membership csv file for the event? This would off-load the office staff, but still allow me to do day-of tournament registration off-line.

btw Since I don't have a current event pending, is there a way I can do a test event with the new tournament manager? I'd like to see what you've done. Send me a PM if this is possible.

From an office point of view, how would generation of a PDF save time over generating a spreadsheet? I was suggesting the tournament director could save the web page as a PDF and print it out. The process of generating the spreadsheet and sending it to every tournament director who is running an event that weekend is a time consuming process.

What if there was an option in the Tournament Manager to generate and download a membership csv file for the event? This would off-load the office staff, but still allow me to do day-of tournament registration off-line. Yep. This is definitely doable but it would just be the same data that the Players page generates. Would that work for you?

I don't think that page has all of the fields that were in the spreadsheet. Furthermore the player page won't show the ratings of non-current players. As a TD, I need the ratings of non-current players to make sure they are in the correct division. The spreadsheet as currently delivered has these fields:
Current
First
Last
PDGA
State
Birthdate
Div
Rating
RatingDate

The fields I need are
PDGA#
First
Last
Current
Div
Rating
I only need the BirthDate if the coding for MS1s has not been fixed in the database.

When the the spreadsheet is delivered, I get my state plus the surrounding states. That is helpful since we usually draw players from three other states at our bigger events.

I don't think that page has all of the fields that were in the spreadsheet. Furthermore the player page won't show the ratings of non-current players. As a TD, I need the ratings of non-current players to make sure they are in the correct division. The spreadsheet as currently delivered has these fields:
Current
First
Last
PDGA
State
Birthdate
Div
Rating
RatingDate

The fields I need are
PDGA#
First
Last
Current
Div
Rating
I only need the BirthDate if the coding for MS1s has not been fixed in the database.

The Players page has all that information and more, including the ratings of players who are not current. It checks division eligibility based on rating and age and also highlights members who haven't passed the officials test in the case of NTs and Majors.

When the the spreadsheet is delivered, I get my state plus the surrounding states. That is helpful since we usually draw players from three other states at our bigger events. I'll look into making this data available inside the Tournament Manager for you to download.

Just wanted to chime in to say I'm in the same boat as krupicka, using a spreadsheet into which I import the membership file I'm sent by the PDGA. So he's definitely not alone in preferring the data be available in an Excel or CSV format. A way to do that through the tournament manager would be great.

Even better would be the ability to choose the states/regions from which the member info gets pulled. Info for 3-4 states might work for krupicka out in the midwest, but up here in the northeast, we're pulling players from 7-8+ states for the bigger events. One generic range might not work for everyone.

While I do usually have internet access from tournament central, so I could operate solely out of the Tournament Manager, our events are often NEFA-sanctioned as well as PDGA, so my spreadsheet is checking for NEFA membership info as well. It would certainly be preferable to keep using the all-in-one option.

Not sure if Covered above.

I like the new feature on the Players page.

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Just wanted to chime in to say I'm in the same boat as krupicka, using a spreadsheet into which I import the membership file I'm sent by the PDGA. So he's definitely not alone in preferring the data be available in an Excel or CSV format. A way to do that through the tournament manager would be great.

Even better would be the ability to choose the states/regions from which the member info gets pulled. Info for 3-4 states might work for krupicka out in the midwest, but up here in the northeast, we're pulling players from 7-8+ states for the bigger events. One generic range might not work for everyone.
The dataset that the Tournament Manger is checking against consists of the entire PDGA membership, past and present. It's performing all the checks you need automatically based on the tournament your running.

Jerry, I'll send you a PM with information on how to get set up to test the new Tournament Manager so you can check it out first hand.

Is there an issue with the new uploader? Tried entering live scores to my event (http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/79400/1817348731) at lunch and it registers them in the admin portal, but nothing updates on the results page, it still shows the registration details. Tried after round two, same problem, and have just uploaded from the spreadsheet, same problem

According to the schedule, your event is not supposed to begin until tomorrow, September 16th. If that was just an error made during the sanctioning process, I can fix that for you by changing the date to September 15th. Let me know.

Yes please, it's a 2 day, today and tomorrow. Thanks for the quick response!

Yes please, it's a 2 day, today and tomorrow. Thanks for the quick response! Fixed.

You're a star, much respect :)

Fixed.

Mr. Ganz,

This one may be a harder fix, but maybe you could put it on your list?

If you hover on Membership, click on Player Ratings, and then click on Am Men or Am Women, the amateur results usually include pros who registered as amateurs but have taken pro cash. If you hover on Membership, click on Player Statistics and then select any amateur division to sort by points, the list usually will include pros who have amateur points from having competed under the Pros Playing Am rule.

It would be nice if these searches only pulled up amateurs.

Mr. Ganz,

This one may be a harder fix, but maybe you could put it on your list?

If you hover on Membership, click on Player Ratings, and then click on Am Men or Am Women, the list is always populated with amateurs and pros who registered as amateurs but have taken pro cash. If you hover on Membership, click on Player Statistics and then select any amateur division to sort by points, the list usually will include pros who have amateur points from having competed under the Pros Playing Am rule.

It would be nice if these searches only pulled up amateurs.

Statistics will get a major overhaul in the future. It will take some time to get it to where we want it to be, but it will be well worth the wait.

Steve also made it so you can mouse over a player's name to see their hometown and state/country. Nice additions.
Is that supposed to still be working? It used to work for me, but no longer.

Win7pro w/ Firefox.

Is that supposed to still be working? It used to work for me, but no longer.

Win7pro w/ Firefox.

Still works for me. Win7Home with Firefox 15.

Still works for me. Win7Home with Firefox 15.
I don't get the PDGA Tourney page player location tool tips with Win7Home w/ Firefox 15, nor Win7Home w/ IE9.

However I do get tool tips for other things... like when composing a reply to this vBulletin forum post if I mouse over this guy: :confused: in the Smilies panel I get the tool tip "Confused". Or when viewing the thread, if I mouse over Steve's pic I get the tool tip "steveganz's Avatar".

Is that supposed to still be working? It used to work for me, but no longer.

Win7pro w/ Firefox.

I can see it on this one - http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/96448

Maybe its only working for events that are still unofficial?

I can see it on this one - http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/96448

Maybe its only working for events that are still unofficial?

That's correct. I originally implemented this just for events "in progress" aka "Unofficial Results". At some point this feature will be enhanced so that you'll get a mini-profile of the player.

That's correct. I originally implemented this just for events "in progress" aka "Unofficial Results". At some point this feature will be enhanced so that you'll get a mini-profile of the player.
Ah ha, that's it. I'm guessing if it were easy to do for "Official Results" as well you would have already done it.

Ah ha, that's it. I'm guessing if it were easy to do for "Official Results" as well you would have already done it.
I just never got around to it for some reason. It's done now.

I tried to check on the dates for Pro and Am Worlds using the Tour Schedule but it would not go to 2013. I was not sure if that was a feature of a bug. :) Maybe nothing has been put on the schedule for 2013 yet.

I'm sure I'll find the dates some other way. The girls and I are planning a late December trip to KC and we thought we'd check out the Emporia courses if we could find any information.

A little Google action finds the 2013 Pro Worlds dates on PDGA.com as Aug 3-10 with 2013 Am Worlds in Emporia on July 7-14.

http://www.pdga.com/2013-major-events-announced (http://www.pdga.com/2013-major-events-announced)

I tried to check on the dates for Pro and Am Worlds using the Tour Schedule but it would not go to 2013. I was not sure if that was a feature of a bug. :) Maybe nothing has been put on the schedule for 2013 yet.

Nothing has been posted to the schedule yet.

A good place to start for information on Major Events is:

http://www.pdga.com/pdga-major-events

For World Championships:

http://www.pdga.com/world-championships

Both available under the site navigation menu under PDGA Tour. See attached screenshot.

2013 Majors and NTs have been posted to the schedule. Here's a handy link for you:

http://www.pdga.com/tour_search_results?page=0&start=2013-01-01&end=2013-12-31&tier[M]=M&tier[NT]=NT

Steve - any way to get all the Rules School articles linked to from the PDGA Rules page (http://www.pdga.com/rules)? Also, it'd be nice if they were available in a version formatted for printing.

I need to update the previous ones that are out-of-date and those old ones should not be linked in if not correct due to rule changes.

I need to update the previous ones that are out-of-date and those old ones should not be linked in if not correct due to rule changes.
Chuck, if you could compile a list of links to articles that are appropriate for linking, I will make sure they are referenced appropriately from the Rules section.

Steve - any way to get all the Rules School articles linked to from the PDGA Rules page (http://www.pdga.com/rules)? Also, it'd be nice if they were available in a version formatted for printing.
Eric, are you talking about a printed version of the Rules School articles or the Rules themselves?

Steve, I've got a few more Rules School updates to complete before we do this. We dont want to refer players to outdated info. I think Eric wants PDFs so maybe we should just have those as Rules School doc links somewhere on the Rules page? You have the latest one on Mandos to get started.

Steve, I've got a few more Rules School updates to complete before we do this. We dont want to refer players to outdated info. I think Eric wants PDFs so maybe we should just have those as Rules School doc links somewhere on the Rules page? You have the latest one on Mandos to get started.
Take your time, Chuck.

Every page published on PDGA.com, including the Rules School articles, are automatically formatted for printing. Try it for yourself.

I printed the article from the website to PDF. It's not too bad but the PDGA header and ads are included. Is there a way to print just the story content to PDF? It sounded like Eric just wanted to download a formatted PDF for offline use and printing.

I printed the article from the website to PDF. It's not too bad but the PDGA header and ads are included. Is there a way to print just the story content to PDF? It sounded like Eric just wanted to download a formatted PDF for offline use and printing.
I just made an adjustment to exclude the ads and the right hand column to allow the content to take up the entire width of the page. It should be formatted very nicely for printing now.

Generally speaking, we're trying to get away from creating PDFs for everything and let web pages serve as the source from which we can format documents dynamically for whatever device you want to output to, including printers.

Excellent, Steve. That makes those docs much nicer for offline reading.

Eric, are you talking about a printed version of the Rules School articles or the Rules themselves?
The actual Rules School articles.

Printing them from the website often results in the pictures & diagrams breaking across page boundaries:

http://www.pdga.com/discussion/attachment.php?attachmentid=1128&stc=1&d=1363113234

I usually print out the rules Q&A at 2 or 4 pages per sheet to have a nice compact version to put in my DG bag... I thought it'd be useful to have the Rules School articles as well.

Glad to see the Forum is back on-line. :-)

yep, but its pretty quiet

Very sad to see!

Has anyone else noticed that the forum is no longer marking threads as unread and giving a link to the latest unread post in the thread? Or is this just behavior I'm seeing?

Attached is what I see.

It used to be that in the left hand column the threads/boards with new posts would be marked with an icon that was orange. They all stay the same steel grey for me even when new posts show up.

I'll take a look at what might have changed. There was a software update I made recently that may have something to do with it.

Mike, I think I figured out what the problem was. Let me know if things are working the way you expect them to now.

They are working. That's how I noticed this post. :-)