sandalbagger
Aug 29 2011, 05:58 PM
So I just found out that that really pretty tent that the PDGA uses at the NT events cost $20,000!!!! I must say that that seems like quite a lot of money for a tent that only gets used a few times a year. Was this really the best idea for the PDGA? I think the tent looks really pretty and all, but $20,000. Now I know where my $10 PDGA officials test money went from last year.....and once again this year.

I have never really questioned the PDGA and what they do, but it seems like a major waste of money to me.

juanbond
Aug 29 2011, 06:21 PM
I dunno, yeah I guess that seems like a lot of money...but then again, I know nothing about large tents, perhaps this isn't all that unusual of a price for such an item. Moreover, if the PDGA is going to look professional and advance their image and the sport's image, they need professional stuff. I'd rather they splurged on good equipment than went the cheapskate route and looked less than professional. How stupid would they look with a cheap tarp strapped down to some fence poles? Or if their headquarters was a tiny shack with no disc golf courses? If it had been a $20K clipboard, I'd be ******.

Angst
Aug 29 2011, 06:51 PM
While I agree 20K seems like a lot of money to spend on a glorified tent, I must say that it really does look great and it definitely adds to the overall professionalism of NT events. Rather than question everything in it line item by line item, I'll just continue to look at the PDGA NT trailer and everything in it (radios, wi-fi hotspot, banners and the like) as additional resources for us TDs to use to make our events THAT much better. I know one thing for certain, when I found out the PDGA was bringing that tent to the Beaver State Fling it meant that I did not have to deal with the logistics of renting a huge tent and then worrying about getting it all set up. Things that make our (TDs) lives easier, are exactly the things I want to see from the PDGA.

7838
Aug 29 2011, 10:32 PM
Thats really nice for the PDGA to pony up that kinda of money for the tent not to mention for them to take it over 5000 miles back n forth at 3.50 a gallon from Georgia to Oregon. Thats really nice of them. Glad to see our money go to something good for a change. Maybe in the future they can buy some better servers or some of them $2500 toilet seats the government buys.

ninafofitre
Aug 29 2011, 11:31 PM
If it lasts 15-20 years, it's worth it. The design is nice enough that it won't look tacky in 15 years.

twoputtok
Aug 30 2011, 10:28 AM
In 5 years, they'll have 40K in it just hauling it around. Has anyone told them about UPS Ground?

DSproAVIAR
Aug 30 2011, 11:18 AM
Do you mean that just the tent was 20 grand? Or did you mean the tent, trailer, speakers, flat screen, wifi hookup, flags etc were 20 grand total? That seems more reasonable.


Does anyone know who drives that thing around? Is there 1 person dedicated or do they switch on and off throughout the season? Sounds like a fun job.

20460chase
Aug 30 2011, 12:31 PM
Funny that tidbit of info must have been left out of the horrible disc golf magazine I dont want and regret wasting my time reading.



Money is alot easier to spend when it isnt yours. Look at this awesome website...

sandalbagger
Aug 31 2011, 11:17 AM
I was told $7000 for the tent and $13000 for the graphics???

As for the tent, it is cool and does make TD's lives easier, but this tent gets used at less than 1/100 of all PDGA events. Seems that this money could have been used to help procure sponsorships, advertising, etc etc. Something that would actually help the NT events grow.

gotcha
Aug 31 2011, 11:48 AM
You gotta spend money to make money.

nez
Aug 31 2011, 01:14 PM
Sometimes it is just too frustrating to let misinformation continue . . .

The Board approved $20K for the trailer, tent, graphics on both, as well as the remainder of the equipment in the trailer, in support of our top events. This was a prototype conceptual trailer, and it has been presented on a huge number of events in 2011, from PDGA Majors, National Tour and SuperTour events. The tent with its custom graphics ran approx. $7K if I recall, and was just one piece of this prototype investment.

We will evaluate its use and expenses at the Fall Summit.

evandmckee
Aug 31 2011, 01:49 PM
Sometimes it is just too frustrating to let misinformation continue . . .

The Board approved $20K for the trailer, tent, graphics on both, as well as the remainder of the equipment in the trailer, in support of our top events. This was a prototype conceptual trailer, and it has been presented on a huge number of events in 2011, from PDGA Majors, National Tour and SuperTour events. The tent with its custom graphics ran approx. $7K if I recall, and was just one piece of this prototype investment.

We will evaluate its use and expenses at the Fall Summit.

Thanks for the info!

I really wish more PDGA leadership would take the time to communicate up front and/or clear up these kind of subjects when they arise through the D-Board, Front Page Stories and Social Media

I for one truly appreciate it :)

wsfaplau
Aug 31 2011, 01:52 PM
Sometimes it is even more frustrating to get poor communication from the PDGA that leads to misinformation among the members

sandalbagger
Aug 31 2011, 03:42 PM
Thank you for the clarification Dave. I thought that $13,000 for the graphics sounded crazy.

And it was great playing with you at the WFDF overalls.

502DG
Aug 31 2011, 09:02 PM
Thanks for the info!

I really wish more PDGA leadership would take the time to communicate up front and/or clear up these kind of subjects when they arise through the D-Board, Front Page Stories and Social Media

I for one truly appreciate it :)

Took the words right out of my mouth. Thanks for clearing that up Dave!

nez
Sep 02 2011, 10:22 AM
Thanks for the info!

I really wish more PDGA leadership would take the time to communicate up front and/or clear up these kind of subjects when they arise through the D-Board, Front Page Stories and Social Media

I for one truly appreciate it :)

We the Board realize the deficiency in communication, and we're working on improving it. It's tough, because it takes a fair amount of time to reply here or elsewhere, and we are all putting a lot of volunteer time in already. I have written an article for the next PDGA magazine talking about the Board and what is happening "behind the curtain". Note that I do watch these areas on a routine basis, and relevant topics do end up making it to our Board discussions!

eupher61
Sep 02 2011, 04:40 PM
Better still, why not post when major expenditures are put out, such as this travel rig, new computers system/software/website (ahem...), buildings, whatever, WITHOUT being goaded by complaints and misinformed muckwrackers?

audi12
Sep 02 2011, 08:59 PM
Better still, why not post when major expenditures are put out, such as this travel rig, new computers system/software/website (ahem...), buildings, whatever, WITHOUT being goaded by complaints and misinformed muckwrackers?

Or is there a place (preferably online) were the members can see the minutes from the meetings?

cgkdisc
Sep 02 2011, 09:43 PM
Like this? http://www.pdga.com/board-minutes

sandalbagger
Sep 06 2011, 11:39 AM
Thanks Chuck. Why am I not surprised that the top touring players on the board were not in attendance for the last meeting?