Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls....

As of last night, Haikey Creek has two TD's...

The Man, the Legend, the one and only Wayne Forest has asked me to come on board and get back into course-running and mini-hosting. I am excited to say that I am now part of Haikey Creek.

Things to look for on south Garnett in the coming months:

1) new tee-signs with new graphics and new nicknames AND the return of the rules sign by hole 1.
2) sleeves for "casual play" and "tournament play" on some holes, allowing the casual golfer and us tournament golfers to all enjoy the course.
3) some minis will have player-packs.. and they wont be your everyday player packs. Think back to Wise and Centennial.


I'm very excited to be back in the swing of things as far as TD'ing is concerned. If you have any suggestions for me, please let me know.

As of last night I hear there was only one new Td out there......YOU!

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well, Wayne promised he'd stay on board until i get my feet wet. Big shoes to fill, especially being in charge of a county park.

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� yes indeed � some �new blood� � a �fresh face� � actually a �blast from the past� � Bill �Slim� Moyers is taking over as your Tournament Director at Haikey Creek � it�s not that I�m going anywhere � I remain an Admin. (as Club Members would have me) -and- actively TD�ing �Flights Events Doubles� (presently �pushing-it-up� for The Oklahoma Open) � and I�ll work with Slim as a �liason� or his Assistant TD at Haikey Creek Course �

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Duff, your bad, you city wide..

No one course is enough for you. We consider you are free ranging TD!!!!

You may consider him a free ranging Td but I thinks its more of a ............

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wise. do you have any idea what that picture even means? :P i know slim does :)

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This will help...

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dkp is so vanilla wow...... :)

so my first mini will be monday, august 2nd. please come out and support the changing of the guard! :)

WE ARE ONLY

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days away from my first mini at haikey creek.

I will be there about 5:15 for sign-ups. Current TDSA members will receive a small "players pack" for entering my mini. (will be different each week) I will also have gum, air-heads, and 5-hour energy for sale (discounted prices for current members), as well as your usual disc-golf equipment. There will also be a small "twist" to each round that will vary from week to week. It will definitely be worth your while to come on out monday night. look for the gray VW. :)

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i said gRay VW........

Dam! I could have sworn you said ghey VW.

TONIGHT!! TONIGHT!! TONIGHT!!

I am running my first mini since "coming back" tonight at 6pm. We will tee as close to 6pm as possible.

Tonight's players pack... WATER! I will have a cooler with iced-down bottled water. everyone gets one when they sign up. Please be mindful of the trash, though, and use the cans the park has provided us.

Look forward to seeing you all out there!

... Ace Pot starts at $123.00 ...

... and $22 in re-seed ...

Feels good to be back in the swing of things...

We had an AMAZING turnout considering the heat. 28 players! I really appreciate everyone coming out and supporting my first mini back after a LONG hiatus. Here are your results:

PRO

Sam Nielsen 45
Devan Owens 47
Jared Pennington 48
Taylor Sears 50
Johnny Thompson 54
Ray Peterson 60
Kyle Wilkes DNF

ADVANCED

Chris Hatton 50 (chris, please PM me. i have a question for you.)
Seth Cook 50
Matt Gibbs 51 ($4 bank)
Slim 53
Adrian Gastelum 54
Phil Grandstaff 54
Ron Grandstaff 54
Nick Roesle 55

INTERMEDIATE

Nate Nelson 57 (won playoff)
Tony Houdek 57 ($9 bank)
Charlie Chung 60
Justin Lamproe 62
Justin Spencer 65
Morgan Taylor 66

NOVICE

Josh Stanley 59
Mike Morgan 60 (our newest tdsa club member! congrats!)
Caleb Sanders 63
Bobby Reed 66
Jake Trickey 70
Brittian Harris 71
Will Long 72

CTP - Hole 8 - won by Chris Hatton ($20)

Ace was NOT hit! The ace pot currently stands at $136 with a $35 reseed.

See you guys out there next Monday!

TONIGHT! TONIGHT! TONIGHT!

I will be out there around 5:20. Flex starts will begin around 5:45 (or whenever you have a foursome ready to go, regardless of division) so we dont finish in the dark.

I will be providing cold water once again as a players' pack. it's just too **** hot to do anything else.

I will have five-hour energy in "berry" flavor for sale: $2 for club members, $2.50 for non-TDSA members.

Please come on out and have some fun! we had an awesome turn-out last week, let's do better tonight!

And don't forget with Slim it's going to include....

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Thanks again for all who came out in the heat and humidity for 18 holes. I'm sorry for not placing CTP out at the start of the round, and i'm equally sorry for throwing down a small orange cone, saying "this is the ctp. here, beat this" and throwing it in from 150.

anyways, here are tonight's results:

OPEN

Sam Nielsen 43
Jared Pennington 46
Coda Hatfield 48 (has $10 coming, but drove off before he could collect)
Billy Lund 48 (also has $10, same story)
Dave Wise 50
Taylor Sears 51
Jesse Sellers 52
Ken Ward 52
Johnny Thompson 53
Billy Swanson 60
Kyle Wilkes DNF

ADVANCED

James Patton 46 (bogey-free until the last hole)
Chris Hatton 51 (banked $11, has $18 total)
Adrian Gastelum 52 ($2 banked)
Matt Gibbs 52 ($2 banked today, total of $6 banked)
Matt Razmus 53
Slim 54
Brad Evans 58
Matt Treat 58

INTERMEDIATE

Tommy Agent 53 ($1 bank)
Roger Lawrence 56
Charlie Chung 57
Victor Frescaz 58
Justin Lamproe 60
Drew Bookman 60
Jake Trickey 67 (stepped up from novice)

Ace pot now stands at $145 with $45 re-seed.

UPCOMING EVENTS:
Tuesday - Riverside (huge ace pot, dont miss it)
Wednesday - Hunter
Thursday - Chandler (I'm running it)

Thursday, August 19th -- the return of the birdie hunt at chandler. dont miss out!

sam nielsen... shredding haikey lately! nice shooting.

Everyone:

I have been listening to comments made by a multitude of people since i became haikey's TD.

What I would LOVE is to get some written feedback from the folks that play the course. What do you like?
What do you dislike?
Do you ever feel that your life is in danger on a certain hole? :)

I want to take these and any suggestions and form a small committee that will assist me in making the course better for players of all skill levels. I want to hear from novices, pros, and everyone in between. We have the land and the resources to make that course fun and challenging for all.

Please send me your input! pdga15288@gmail.com is my email address and i welcome all forms of praise and criticism.

... good stuff , Slim ...

Sklim, you have a great course now. The only suggestion that I would have is to re-pole all of the baskets and add 36 placements. This would allow you to accomodate any type of player or event, in less than 1 hour. You could go from a little easier than the current configuration to a course that would rival anything in the region. It would also allow to to address any current hole placement concerns and fix them all at once.

While the costs of this change over isn't cheap, it would make Haikey the best and most versitle course in the area.

36 anchors - $792
18 collars - $216
18 poles - $630
40 bags concrete - $115

You may even be able to get some discounts, if not, it comes to just under $1,800. AFter that for a another $22 each, you can put a hole anywhere you want.;

You may even be able to get some discounts, if not, it comes to just under $1,800. AFter that for a another $22 each, you can put a hole anywhere you want.;

great idea Wise.

if you had about 25 events at haikey per year (minis, tournaments) and had 1 or 2 mulligans available at each event for 1 dollar a piece. You could cover the cost in 2 years of running the course if not faster with mulligans alone.

That would also exclude any donations you may request, or any additional fundraising you might want to do specifically for the course.

Also, within the next two years, we may have some more options available from the OKDGF as far as funding goes.

So I think adding multiple pins would be a perfect idea for a course like haikey. Of course that is just two men's opinions.

Mohawk is another in need of the collar system. It was originaly intended to have them but we ran out of time to clear extra greens and fairways.

By changing a course to this type of set up you do not limit yourself to one layout for one type of player. For a Major event, you could have pros, jrs or ams on the same course on the same day. As soon as one division plays it, move it around. If we had 3-4 courses with multiple placements, we multiply the number of courses we have right now.

Imagine, 2 MClures, 2 haikeys and 4 Mohawks, (Black could have even more with the white tees and multiple placements.) And throw in 2 layouts at Centennial for the Am divisions.
All that and we still have Hunter, Dovillio and Chandler.

mohawk could use collar and water control and bug control and trash cans and benches and bag holders and disc divers...........yard work and tree work........

Sklim, you have a great course now. The only suggestion that I would have is to re-pole all of the baskets and add 36 placements. This would allow you to accomodate any type of player or event, in less than 1 hour. You could go from a little easier than the current configuration to a course that would rival anything in the region. It would also allow to to address any current hole placement concerns and fix them all at once.

While the costs of this change over isn't cheap, it would make Haikey the best and most versitle course in the area.

36 anchors - $792
18 collars - $216
18 poles - $630
40 bags concrete - $115

You may even be able to get some discounts, if not, it comes to just under $1,800. AFter that for a another $22 each, you can put a hole anywhere you want.;


I have been giving serious thought to this since day one when Wayne and I had to move hole 5 200 feet shorter to keep the joggers from griping about people throwing their discs too close to the path. That hole used to be a tough 3 that required two well-placed shots.. now it's a hyzer-birdie for anyone who can throw 300 feet.

Some holes wouldn't need to be moved at all, and some holes could benefit greatly by having more than 2 placements, very similar to what we have in Owasso.

Hole 1 - have the current pin be "long", and put another pin about 50 feet closer but guarded by a tree.
Hole 2 - current pin = "short", put a pin around the corner to the north.
Hole 3 - relocate basket to be better guarded by trees
Hole 4 - possible relocation of teepad, but most likely leaving this hole alone.
Hole 5 - current pin = "short", place sleeve where the hole originally went, possibly closer to the bush, for the "long"
Hole 6 - current spot = "short", add sleeve deeper into woods bringing the wall of trees to the right of the current pin placement more into play.
Hole 7 - current pin = "short", add another pin 40-50 feet further back and possibly away from the trail.
Hole 8 - Possibly add a second sleeve about the same distance from the pad as the current one, but harder to get a straight shot through the tree line.
Hole 9 - current pin would be "long" and add a "short" by those two giant trees about 80 feet closer.
Hole 10 - adding 1-2 extra sleeves to allow for different routes, all about the same distance.
Hole 11 - I personally think this hole is awesome and doesnt need to be changed. :)
Hole 12 - add a second pin on the edge of the hill, guarded by trees.
Hole 13 - lengthen by 60-80 feet for a "long", leaving current spot the "short"
Hole 14 - Add 1-2 extra sleeves all in a row, so you still have to shoot through the tree line, you just have to aim left, right, or center.
Hole 15 - only thing i see to add here that would be beneficial is a concrete oval "drop zone" for those people who lose a disc and use their 3 minutes.
Hole 16 - current pin = "short", add a long pin further down and to the right, allowing for shots to travel straight down the ditch. would be interesting with a lot of water on the course. :)
Hole 17 - LONGER TEE PAD, first and foremost. also adding a couple of extra pins scattered throughout the trees.
Hole 18 - leave as-is for the most part, maybe a slight relocation of the basket to the left or right. maybe add a second pin really close to the road for big tourneys to make OB a big concern when going for a long putt.


These are what the 900-rated golfer (me) thinks would be cool. I wanna hear from the 800s and the 1000s, too though. and more 900s. Haikey will be very different in a year.

one thing I would like to stress when contemplating making new pins or new changes to ANY of the courses in town.

one thing the "pros" or higher rated players do not really like are baskets that to increase scoring variation are placed in the middle or close to groups of trees. in my personal opinion, and that of other players I know and have talked to while traveling is... you want to do your best to make a course difficult, without adding a "luck" factor.

Say player 1 drives your new pin placement perfectly down the fairway, and within 20 feet of the basket that you just moved right next to a bush, and he has no putt, the next player throws almost an identical shot, that lands 5 feet shorter and has a straddle putt around the bush. This kind of variation in scoring is extremely unfair and brings in a lot of luck. A major complaint I heard from the AM worlds courses, and some courses I have played is when you put as basket behind a wall of trees halfway down the fairway, it brings in luck, because not even kenny climo can pure a 4 foot gap 200-250 feet down the fairway every time, too much luck is involved.

Blackhawk is a great upper level course because it has LINES and gaps that are open all the way down, or require the gap to be hit off of the teeshot, not half way or all the way down the fairway.

This is just a general input from me, because it is a pet pieve of mine and a common complaint of other "pro" players.

not trying to criticize your options for hole changes, just giving you the input you asked for

EDIT: Just to make sure I am creating some constructive ideas as well, another option to make a hole more difficult would be to make another teepad further back (like Blackhawk). This is of course only applicable to certain locations, but it creates an entirely different hole without even moving the basket.

This would be a good way to keep from moving baskets behind trees etc, and having a new teepad inside of a grouping of trees that you had to hit a gap off of the teepad instead of trying to pick which 3 foot gap you were going to hit 200 feet down the fairway

my goal isnt to make a hole "un-puttable", because believe me, i hate that too. (my general rule of thumb is allow 8-10 feet clear space between the bucket and any obstructions.)

Take hole 3 for example. you can throw a gentle turnover with your putter and have a chance to ring it every time, or throw a hard hyzer to the right (for a right handed player) and have it cut and skip hard to the left for the same shot. moving that basket 10 feet to the right, for example, doesnt "close off" a line, it just "alters" it. like hole 8 right now --- it's a 140 foot placement shot through a tree line. righties have a 7-8 foot gap to hit, and if they hit it with an overstable midrange, they can ace it. if you simply slide the bucket 30 feet to the right, it could possibly bring the OB road into play, and also make hitting that 7-8 foot gap in a turnover harder to do. its still doable, but you can still take a 3 on an easy hole just the same as now.

hole 15 kinda fits the mold of what youre talking about right now with that bush. you can pure a drive and not have any look at the bucket that is "within the circle" because you hyzered into the jungle wall.

mitch park in edmond had a lot of holes like that, where you could be in the circle but not have a clear putt.



my ideal course setup would be to have 6 holes that give a "moderately easy" chance to birdie, have 6 holes that are very "tough but birdie-able", and have 6 holes that require two very well-placed shots to have a chance at 3, like holes 1, 9, and 17. i have gotten 3's on all those holes with my limited skill, but usually take 4's and sometimes 5's on them.

yeah, I wasn't meaning to criticize your placements individually, because if you moved hole 8 to the right more, there is still a reasonable gap to hit, that is totally cool. Initially I can't think of many places at haikey that have what I am talking about, you aren't too at risk there.

hole 15 at haikey is fine! that bush requires you to throw a shot around it to be rewarded with a birdie, not many who just blast the bush are given a break by being clean on the other side. You can get a putt from the left side of the bush, but the turnover around the bush is still a very executable type shot.

my beef is with holes you walk up to and go, what is the line here? where are you supposed to throw? meaning it is wide open off the tee and then a basket blocked by a mass of trees. you see where I'm coming from. That's why haikey is good! there isn't much of that even available at haikey because the trees are so far apart, fair lines. so excuse me for chiming in on your haikey post, but I just wanted to throw that out there for people to think about and read

Hole 5 at hunter, if you choose to go across the water in the summertime is honestly pretty silly, am I correct? You have to really hit a tiny line in order to even be rewarded with a chance to get the birdie, FORTUNATELY there is the alternate route to the left side, that gives the option of an executable par opportunity and you can avoid being lucky going for a 3 or 4 foot gap in the middle, 250 feet away from you. I am not saying there isn't a possibilty of you trying to hit one of those gaps and actually make it up there for a birdie, but if everyone was forced to play a MANDO up the middle on that hole, and throw across the water, it would be a silly hole because then you bring so much luck into play. But that opening on the left side makes that hole great! If you NEED to try for a birdie, basically the only way is to rip it up the middle, but there is an option for a well executed par there.

if i make a pin placement, you are gonna be able to see the line to throw (maybe two lines) from the pad. i dont like "plinko" holes where you walk up, close your eyes, and pray that you find some obscure line. Remember, i am a 900 rated guy and i think like a 900 rated guy. i wanna have a pretty good idea of what to do when i step on the pad.

and dont worry about ruffling me! this is exactly what i was asking for! i really appreciate your input! makes the whole thing more fun if you ask me.. :)

OK, Kids....

Mini tonight at Haikey. I will be there as close to 5:00 as traffic will allow. Please take advantage of the "flex starts" option tonight and every other monday through september. I WILL BE THE LAST CARD TO TEE OFF, AND I WILL BE TEEING OFF PROMPTLY AT 6:00. WE DONT HAVE ENOUGH DAYLIGHT TO WAIT AROUND. PLEASE BE THERE BEFORE 6:00!!!

I will have bottled water for your player pack as well as "bubble gum mulligans" for sale. Max of 3, and you may get them for free! proceeds go to the haikey creek course improvement fund (this is what will buy the sleeves and concrete to make haikey better! please come out and support it!)

only 3 days late posting these.. better late than never i guess. my bad everyone.

OPEN

Sam Nielsen 49
Cris Hicks 50
James Patton 50

ADVANCED

Adrian Gastelum 51 (also won CTP)
Chris Hatton 53
Tommy Agent 53
Slim 54
Matt Gibbs 58

INTERMEDIATE

Corbin Capages 53
Roger Lawrence 55
Justin Lamproe 55
Jason McDaniel 55
Drew Bookman 58

NOVICE

Kelly Watkins 60
Jeff Volz 62
Paul Thomas 65
Daniel Brooks 65

Next events:

Friday - 10:00 AM -- Haikey -- Hosted by Rick Neil -- try and make it if you can!
Sat/Sun - OKIE DUBS - Get your lodge on......
Monday - Haikey -- last card leaves at 6:05.

TONIGHT!! TONIGHT!! TONIGHT!!

Mini at Haikey Creek. Flex starts from 5:15 till 6:00.

THE LAST CARD(S) WILL TEE OFF AT 6:05. SORRY IF YOU GET THERE AFTER I'VE STARTED.

ace pot starts at $152.

Tonight we're going to change it up a little bit. everyone is going to play hole 8 to 18's basket and hole 18 to 8's basket. Hole 8 will have a mando between two trees with a marked drop zone.

haikey creek course improvement fund "bubble gum" mulligans will be offered. $1 apiece, max 3. draw a gum for a chance at a discount!

Not a big turnout tonight, looks like a lot of folks stayed home recovering from Okie Dubs. Thanks to all of you who did make it out tonight.

Tonight we played 3 holes differently: 18 to 8's basket, 8 to 18's basket with a double-mando, and hole 14's tee-pad was moved about 120 feet back. I left all of the flags and yellow tape out there if you want to try this format the rest of the week. It was fun! on 14, however, be careful of the tree limbs that were cut down over the past week. they can "git-cha" :)

OPEN

Paul Dorries 49 (also won the #1 tag)
Devan Owens 51
Josh Crowl 53
Kris Morita 56
Johnny Thompson 62

ADVANCED

Slim 53 (woohoo!)
Phil Grandstaff 55 (banked)
Chris Hatton 55 (banked)
Charlie Chung 56
Chris Stine 57 (also won CTP)
Tommy Agent 60
Justin Lamproe 62

Tuesday = River
Wednesday = Hunter
Thursday = Chandler, bear's lair (ace pot starts at $95!!!)

A friendly note from your haikey Creek TD...

What a month! Thanks to all who came out and supported the minis at Haikey and at Chandler when I was there. Additionally, thanks to all who participated in the "bubble gum mulligan" program. My goal is to raise $400 by the end of September, and so far we're at $167. My plans with the monies raised are to retro-fit baskets 2, 5, and 6 with locking collars and sleeves and make them changeable. I'm also planning on reconfiguring those three holes, as well as holes 7, 8, 14, and 18 between now and the Oklahoma Open.

That being said, September minis run by yours truly will still offer mulligans, but will be a different format than the "bubble gum".

Have I piqued your curiosity?

See you Thursday. :)

Labor Day results

OPEN

Abraham Barbour 53
Gary Harrison 59
Johnny Thompson 61

ADVANCED GRANDMASTERS

Martin Norris 58
Charlie Chung 59
Wayne Forest 61
Mike Harris 64

ADVANCED AMATEUR

Tommy Agent 57
Corbin Capages 57
Lee Joshua 58
Bill Moyers 60
Chris Hatton 62

NOVICE

Kevin Adams 59
Chris Cervantes 73

JUNIORS

Dustin Tibbens 78

ace pot not hit -- currently sits at $164

NEXT EVENT - TUESDAY, 6:00PM RIVERSIDE

Mini @ Haikey tonight. i'll be there between 5:00 and 5:15. last cards will tee off promptly at 6:00. please try and be early.

ace pot starts at $164.

Haikey Creek Park

OPEN

Kyle Wilkes 46
Devan Owens 46
Jared Pennington 46
Ricky Vasquez 52

ADVANCED AMATEUR

James Patton 51
Tommy Agent 51
Lee Joshua 53
Drew Custer 56
Bill Moyers 57
Morgan Taylor 58
Justin Lamproe 58
Drew Bookman 60
Willie Spoon 60
Matt Treat 64

GRANDMASTERS

Charlie Chung 54
Mike harris 64

NOVICE

Chris Conner 66
Peter Collorafi 69
Ben Oglesby 73
Andrew Steindl 80

Closest-To-Pin = Drew Bookman

NEXT EVENT -- TUESDAY, 6PM AT RIVERSIDE.

Thanks for running the mini. Are you sure there is mini at Riverside today? The schedule says there isnt. Huh

... here ya go , Kyle ... (copied from schedule) ...

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EVERY Tuesday : at Riverside Park 6:00pm*
*get there early ; �flex-start-tee-times� may be available


EVERY Wednesday : at Hunter Park 6:00pm*
*get there early ; �flex-start-tee-times� may be available


EVERY Thursday : at Chandler Park (B.Moyers)
� all �flex-start-tee-times� from 5:15pm until 6:00pm �
Sept. 2, 16, 30 = Bear�s Lair � Sept. 9, 23 = Moose Run
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BIG PROPS to Wayne for getting the rules sign repaired and reposted out there by hole 1!!

... here ya go , Kyle ... (copied from schedule) ...

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EVERY Tuesday : at Riverside Park 6:00pm*
*get there early ; �flex-start-tee-times� may be available


EVERY Wednesday : at Hunter Park 6:00pm*
*get there early ; �flex-start-tee-times� may be available


EVERY Thursday : at Chandler Park (B.Moyers)
� all �flex-start-tee-times� from 5:15pm until 6:00pm �
Sept. 2, 16, 30 = Bear�s Lair � Sept. 9, 23 = Moose Run
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Haikey Creek Park
Sept. 27, 2010

ADVANCED AMATEUR

James Patton 51
Matt Razmus 52
Bill Moyers 53
Sam Nielsen 53
Tommy Agent 55
Charlie Chung 56
Joel Woody 57
Jacob Myers 58

NOVICE

Kelly Watkins 56
Mike Harris 62
Chris Conner 62
Peter Collorafi 62
Nick Stophel 63
Zack Holderness 64
Andrew Steindl 64
Daniel Brooks 72

CTP - Bill Moyers

Next Event - Tuesday, 6:00 pm at Riverside

I am going to be spending the next two weekends out at Haikey re-vamping the course for the tournament. I need all the help I can get. Help consists of, but is not limited to: able bodies, shovels, wheelbarrows, and pickup trucks. If you can miss the awesome events being held the next two weekends and can provide any or all of the aforementioned items, please leave me a message here on the board or send me a text with your name to my cell number , 918-852-6543 918-852-6543 . I will coordinate times with you by the end of the week.
I am changing holes 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, and 18 for this tournament. That's an awful lot of hole-digging, equipment-moving, dirt-tamping, and grunt-labor. Thanks in advance for your help.

I am going to be spending the next two weekends out at Haikey re-vamping the course for the tournament. I need all the help I can get. Help consists of, but is not limited to: able bodies, shovels, wheelbarrows, and pickup trucks. If you can miss the awesome events being held the next two weekends and can provide any or all of the aforementioned items, please leave me a message here on the board or send me a text with your name to my cell number , 918-852-6543 918-852-6543 . I will coordinate times with you by the end of the week.
I am changing holes 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, and 18 for this tournament. That's an awful lot of hole-digging, equipment-moving, dirt-tamping, and grunt-labor. Thanks in advance for your help.

Say When Please :D

weather permitting, i'm going to be starting work around 9am saturday morning and working until dark, then rinsing and repeating on sunday, and the following weekend until i get the equipment where i need it. i'm borrowing my buddy's truck because shovels and wheelbarrows dont fit well in a jetta. :)

then comes my wife and i walking the tape (stretching a tape over a non-smooth terrain will provide more accurate distances than a rolling wheel) we will walk every hole to get accurate footages, as well as get footages to certain trees and other items on the course that will help judge distance.

then i create the new tee-signs, complete with all-new nicknames, and get them laminated and re-installed in the frames. this will be done after work one day.

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... ya know : Jerry Stacey can "laser" those targets in-a-snap ...

I have one also.

I have one also.
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... there ya go Slim ... bada-bing ...

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... ya know : Jerry Stacey can "laser" those targets in-a-snap ...

hole 2 is going back around the corner and cannot be seen from the tee, so we'll have to laser to a tree. i was planning on doing this with the tape anyway, and then including small numbers on the signs showing distances to large trees that are easily identifiable on the course.

hole 6 will be in a heavily wooded area, meaning the laser could easily target a tree instead of the basket.

plus, if two people are using the tape and pulling it tight, then it will give an accurate reading. the laser will give you an accurate reading, but it doesnt tell you precisely what you're measuring to. with the tape i know that one edge of the tape is toughing the front of the teebox and the other end is touching the pole. thats the only reason i wanted to do it that way.

Brad HOI also called me and said he has an easy method to use his truck to yank the baskets out of the ground. if it works and doesnt tear the baskets up, then our work will be cut down significantly.

Brad HOI also called me and said he has an easy method to use his truck to yank the baskets out of the ground. if it works and doesnt tear the baskets up, then our work will be cut down significantly.
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... a word of caution about that method , Slim : I wouldn't do it ... it can (not always) tear-up or bend your equipment ...
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Slim the laser will work better than the tape. Its just like sighting in a traget with a gun. Plus it is much quicker and is accurate to about 2-3ft.

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... the laser will work better than the tape.
... Plus it is much quicker and is accurate to about 2-3ft.
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Yeah laser is the way to go, have your wife stand at the basket with a board or something flat, this will ensure your targeting the right object...


I am busy all week getting ready for my tournaments but I will be free next week if you need some help...

Also thanks for all that you're doing Slim

i'm more worried about digging up and moving baskets and tee signs right now. measuring (and the tape vs laser vs rolling wheel debate) is something i'll worry about after we get all the baskets re-planted.

in other news, whaddaya think about this earthquake business?

Hopefully we wont be spending half the time getting someone unstuck out of the mud. :)
I think its pretty dry out there right now, even in the swampy areas.
Im going to try to be there around 1:30 or so. I might have my dads truck with me.

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Im going to try to be there around 1:30 or so.
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... good ol' Abe ... always showing-up for Haikey volunteer tasks ... very-dependable (for a "non-old" guy) ...

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lol, hopefully all those old guys will leave some work for me :) it sounds like all the hard work will be done before i even get there.

this time ill listen to the help!!!!!!

i'm going to do my best to be there by 8:00 so i can walk the course and flag the areas i want equipment moved to, that way i become a laborer instead of a superintendent.

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thanks to everyone who is working haikey into their weekend itinerary. I will be in the parking lot by hole 5's teepad by 9:00am. see you then. if you make it out later in the day, just look for us on 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13, 14, or 18.

just look for us on 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13, 14, or 18.

Will we even recongnize this course when we're done moving all of these baskets around? :) Man, thats a lot of work to take on with only a couple weeks away from the OO. I hope it turns out as good as it sounds.
It sounds like my morning plans will make me a little later than expected. I'll be showin up around 2 or 2:30.

Will we even recongnize this course when we're done moving all of these baskets around? :) Man, thats a lot of work to take on with only a couple weeks away from the OO. I hope it turns out as good as it sounds.
It sounds like my morning plans will make me a little later than expected. I'll be showin up around 2 or 2:30.

<font size=4>BIG BIG THANKS</font> goes out to the following people for helping out this morning:

Wayne 'rust' Forest
Gary '1000 rated photographer' Nail
Paul 'detonation' Dorries
Brad HOI (and Gabriel with his rake)
JT 'bankrobber' Torbert
Wade 'automatic' Largent
Michael 'papa' Treat
Chris Hutchinson 'the crutch'

Hole 2 is now around the corner to the North.
Hole 5 has a new tee location and a new basket location. 509 feet.
Hole 6 has a new tee location and a new basket location. 404 feet.
We have a new Hole 7 in the trees just north of Hole 6. 201 feet.
Hole 8 has a pro tee and an amateur tee. 456 / 354 feet, respectively.
Hole 9 was stretched back to the west. 280 feet. Mando removed.
Hole 13 plays from old 12's tee. Basket moved to the west. 606 feet.
Hole 14 has a pro tee as well as the current amateur tee. pro tee plays 691 feet.
Hole 18 was shortened a bit to make room for 9's lengthening. 325 feet.

all of these footages were rolled off and will be verified by laser sighting during the next few days (meaning they are subject to change.) Number plates between holes 7-12 are inaccurate and will be updated within the next week as well. New tee signage wll be in place by 10-24-10.

If you are playing this new, much more difficult layout in the next few days and have ANY comments or suggestions, please text them to me at 918-852-6543 (tell me who you are) or send me an email to pdga15288@cox.net (and thanks for your input)

Haikey's SSA went up quite a bit today. :-)

Thanks everyone for helping create the new Haikey layout! I can't waite to try out the new course. I've been watching Slim and I think I will just throw a Stealth on the new course:)

sorry slim. I completely forgot you had that going on. Wanted to help, my bad. Maybe next time.....

"Hole 13 plays from old 12's tee. Basket moved to the west. 606 feet."
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... a NICE , long Hole thru the old "Halls Of Montezuma" ... you might(?) re-think that Basket location a tad ... recommend it slightly longer toward the Garnett ditch ... where you have it now will draw second-shots toward that picnic-table and park-lot area : a shady-spot where many times there can be volleyballers , badmitton , pic-a-nickers , etc. ... IF Basket were set along-the-crown toward that ditch , it also adds more skill-required for near-basket-shots with a sloping green ... just my opinion ...

"Hole 13 plays from old 12's tee. Basket moved to the west. 606 feet."
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... a NICE , long Hole thru the old "Halls Of Montezuma" ... you might(?) re-think that Basket location a tad ... recommend it slightly longer toward the Garnett ditch ... where you have it now will draw second-shots toward that picnic-table and park-lot area : a shady-spot where many times there can be volleyballers , badmitton , pic-a-nickers , etc. ... IF Basket were set along-the-crown toward that ditch , it also adds more skill-required for near-basket-shots with a sloping green ... just my opinion ...

It is a tough hole to find a good placement. I am also a little concerned about the current placement. The reasons you mentioned Wayne, plus... it is an enticing play for a righty to throw a big hyzer down 11's fairway, skipping over towards hole 10's basket, leaving a wide open shot to the basket and less risky than going through the low ceiling middle gap.

The only problem with leaving the basket on the side hill as you are suggesting wayne, it makes the hole easier to try to throw down into the ditch on the left, and then throw an open shot to the basket, avoiding most of the trees on the way to the basket.

I'm not sure of the best solution. I love the pin where it is, but it seems like it might cause some problems? Maybe it is worth just trying out for a couple weeks until the OO is over.

all excellent ideas. and paul nailed it right on the head. it's never "permanent." If we find issues with certain aspects of the new layout, we tweak it until we find the right spot. It's like drilling holes in your slab at home to find the water leak, only without the domicile carnage. :)

keep the comments / ideas / suggestions flowing, peeps! it only makes it better!

also, i wanna hear some scores being shot on the new layout. anyone breaking 50?

I'll head out there for lunch and check out the new layout.

I'll head out there for lunch and check out the new layout.
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also, i wanna hear some scores being shot on the new layout. anyone breaking 50?


mordecai shot a 51 on our first time through, and that was without playing a birdie hole #7 (we forgot about it and just turned around and went to hole 8). The new layout is definitely tougher.

my favorite of the new additions/changes is definitely hole 6, awesome hole.

Well, I got to play the new Haikey this afternoon. I enjoyed the course as a whole. It's definitely tougher by a stroke or two. I was able to pop off a 49 with a silly bogey on the new hole 9. I would say the course is playing around 3 strokes harder than it was before. I think there will be an 7 or 8 in the OO.

Opinions:
Hole #2 - Great. There will now be few birds on this guy and a few bogeys too.
Hole #5 - Good choice on teeing area and pin location. I like the options of the right-lefty lines.
Hole #6 - I like this hole. Tough tee shot and a tougher green.
New Hole #7 - This is a should be birdie, but there are gonna be a few folks that don't throw a good drive and are upset about missing it. But I'm glad we were able to get a couple holes utilizing those trees at the end of the park.
New Hole #8 - Solid. This is a drive that you have to get on to get a birdie.
New Hole #9 - This hole is blah to me. I'm glad there is not a mando on this hole.
New Hole #13 - This is a good 3. This hole does have issues as stated by others.
Hole #18 - I don't like the change. It was a solid birdie, and now it is a must get birdie.

Now for my opinions as a whole. The course is better. It is harder overall. And as a pro in the open division, I want our courses to be as difficult as possible. The front 9 is much better. Some really good holes and couple must get birdies. But now #7 is a must get with pucker factor. The back 9 is mostly the same which I thought was a really tough back stretch to a course. If you hadn't gotten your birdies already, you were going to have to throw some really good shots to get any more.

The new hole 9 isn't a bad hole, I just like having a the old 18. 18 is now dinker hole. I would take out hole 9 completely and put back in holes 12 and 13. These two holes were difficult birdies that were rewarded with good tee shots. Now you have a par 4 that has issues. The low ceiling off the tee isn't really an option if you are going to try and throw a 400+ foot shot off the tee. So that means you are either taking the left line(rollers for a righty) or you are taking the right line. This is an issue, like Paul has already pointed out. Once you get off the tee, you are in the best part of the hole. The pin location creates a very difficult second shot, which I really like. But as Wayne stated, there will be issues with 'pic-a-nickers', etc. You don't want to move the pin to the ditch because then you can play the ditch all the way and it makes for a simple birdie 3.

But like I said, the course is more difficult than before, and I like that. Great job Slim and crew! Y'all did an outstanding job and I'm excited to use this course for the OO!

I think the things brought up need to be taken seriously, Wayne, Josh, and Paul have seen many courses and Josh and Paul have seen some of the best courses in the country just this year and it was during top tier events, the OO is huge for us and we want to make sure all of the courses are ready and all of the holes make sense...

Yea, like he said. Also I want 8,9, 10 and 16 changed at Blackhawk, I want 8,9 and 10 to go counter clockwise as oppsoed to the way they are now.:cool: Take that McCoy!:D

Thanks for your work boys. Are the new OKDGF signs up yet?

Thanks for your work boys. Are the new OKDGF signs up yet?

i'm going to be out there one evening this week getting final measurements for the holes in the current placements, and i should have signs on the posts this weekend. I'm skipping be-fest just so i have ample time to get all my last minute stuff taken care of.

I would take out hole 9 completely and put back in holes 12 and 13.

That's actually not that bad of an idea. wont happen between now and the 30th, but it's definitely a possibility.

My thoughts behind 18 being where it is was mainly to get the 140-foot hole off the course, and moving it westward caused it to encroach on current 18.

I have several ideas for things to do next spring to tweak this and fix the issues:

- move the tunnel hole's basket to the east a few feet and moving 18's tee position backwards, making a similarly-distanced hole than the 18 i took out. reason for moving tunnel's basket would be to scoot the "main" fairway of that hole away from where folks would tee for 18. it would also be moving the tee for 18 closer to 17's basket.

also, think of how many holes are "deuce or die" now: 3, 7, 9, 16, 18.
how many holes are >500' now: 1, 2, 5, 13, 14, 17.

i tried to balance it out. you can still easily goof up and take 3's on the "birdie" holes, and you can make the same mistakes on the long holes and walk away with 5's.

but once again, i am not regis philbin, and this is not the final configuration. :)

Played the new layout for the first time today. Finished in pitch black last 3 holes though. I like it! Shot a bogey free 50. Not bad.

Played the new layout today, shot a 48, Devan shot a 46.

My thoughts;

I've always been a fan Haikey and always will. It's one of the courses where I learned to play... I think we need to differentiate between the everyday course and tournament or "championship" layout.

Hole 2 - I like it, but it would be better if it was brought 50 feet closer or pushed back 150-200 feet. Closer would net a few more deuces and farther would put a lot more importance on the first shot. It's a pretty easy 3 where it is unless you throw it in the trees on the left.

Hole 5 - Fine, not a very exciting hole, but not much to work with. I would make the permanent teepad closer and have a "championship" tee where it is at. This will prevent casuals from yanking it over the path on the right.

Hole 6 - Cool hole. Once again, this hole needs a shorter teepad or shorter pin to prevent the everyday player from pulling their drive into the path on the right.

Hole 7 - Hmmm... I could do without this hole, but it's alright.

Hole 8 - This hole is fine, but it is way to enticing to throw over the path/road on the right side. Maybe a mando left on the first tree to right would help? ... Permanent pad should be short and the current pad should be "championship" with a mando.

Hole 9 - I'm not a big fan of this hole. I actually think it was better in the short position because it forced you to go through the trees. Now a thumber, big lefty hyzer and the righty hyzer of the road are all doable. My biggest frustration with the change is it took away 18. 18 was a great hole, now it sucks. The old hole, plus old 18 is a much better combo than the new hole, plus new 18.

Hole 13 - Okay hole. Hyzer into the ditch, two-finger or turnover to the pin. Old hole 12 and 13 were great holes, new 13 is mediocre in my opinion.

Hole 18 - This went from being a hole I really liked to being a hole that I would rather not play. Before you had to put some distance on it, but if you went long or left you ended up o.b.. Great finishing hole! Now it's just a gimme birdie.

That's what I think, take it or leave it. I appreciate all the effort everyone is putting in!

Adam -- THANKS for the input!

Played the new layout today, shot a 48, Devan shot a 46.

My thoughts;

I've always been a fan Haikey and always will. It's one of the courses where I learned to play... I think we need to differentiate between the everyday course and tournament or "championship" layout.

Hole 2 - I like it, but it would be better if it was brought 50 feet closer or pushed back 150-200 feet. Closer would net a few more deuces and farther would put a lot more importance on the first shot. It's a pretty easy 3 where it is unless you throw it in the trees on the left.

Hole 5 - Fine, not a very exciting hole, but not much to work with. I would make the permanent teepad closer and have a "championship" tee where it is at. This will prevent casuals from yanking it over the path on the right. ***future plans are to leave the tee where it is and retrofit the basket with sleeves and put a "short" pin placement in the approximate spot of the old basket***

Hole 6 - Cool hole. Once again, this hole needs a shorter teepad or shorter pin to prevent the everyday player from pulling their drive into the path on the right.***same thing, gonna retrofit the basket and have a very birdie-able short placement.***

Hole 7 - Hmmm... I could do without this hole, but it's alright. ***have had mixed reviews. it reminds me of a moose run-esque hole. i just wanted to utilize all those trees.***

Hole 8 - This hole is fine, but it is way to enticing to throw over the path/road on the right side. Maybe a mando left on the first tree to right would help? ... Permanent pad should be short and the current pad should be "championship" with a mando.***this is the one thing i am still gonna have to fix between now and the 30th. What i should've done was plant the tee-sign at the "am" pad and when i get the tee signage completed, put a note on the sign that instructs you to play the pro pad if desired. the OO will have these areas flagged and painted with a fresh coat of paint, too.***

Hole 9 - I'm not a big fan of this hole. I actually think it was better in the short position because it forced you to go through the trees. Now a thumber, big lefty hyzer and the righty hyzer of the road are all doable. My biggest frustration with the change is it took away 18. 18 was a great hole, now it sucks. The old hole, plus old 18 is a much better combo than the new hole, plus new 18. ***did the best i could with the land i was working with. i really, REALLY like Crowl's idea of building 12 and 13 back the way they were and removing this hole altogether.***

Hole 13 - Okay hole. Hyzer into the ditch, two-finger or turnover to the pin. Old hole 12 and 13 were great holes, new 13 is mediocre in my opinion.

Hole 18 - This went from being a hole I really liked to being a hole that I would rather not play. Before you had to put some distance on it, but if you went long or left you ended up o.b.. Great finishing hole! Now it's just a gimme birdie.

That's what I think, take it or leave it. I appreciate all the effort everyone is putting in!

one thing i should have mentioned to everyone... hole 14 will be teeing off from the old pad that we used for hole 11. Forest has the distance from the current pad at 375, and i rolled off another 316 back to the concrete pad, meaning this hole is roughly 691 feet. rest assured it will be clearly marked in the OO.

Slim if you want I can come out early this evening and laser them for you.

...good stuff ... great input and observations , fellers ...

Slim if you want I can come out early this evening and laser them for you.

Thanks Dave!

Sounds good. Can you provide a date that golfers can go out and practice when all changes have been made?

the minute i'm done out there and everything is posted, i will let everyone know on here. probably going to be saturday or sunday.

... Baskets are all re-numbered ... last nite ...

Thanks Wayne.

Tee signs are installed as of yesterday evening.

Papa Treat and/or myself will be installing rubber fly-pads for holes 5-6-7-8 sometime this week. You will have 14 concrete tees and 4 rubber tees.

I will re-paint all markers on the ground directing players on Friday morning. I will also be installing the stakes for temporary tee-signs and next-tee markers.

I really appreciate everyone pitching in to help me get this course in shape for the tournament this weekend.

im loving the new haikey, but i gotta say hole.. 11? 12? the one right next to the tunnel, should really be moved if at all possible, the danger/slowdown those holes cause is very high. even just say, bagging the basket and putting a portable deeper or even shorter and slightly right? as it stands now i could have an in the circle putt on the tunnels tee pad.. slowing everything down and maybe KO'ing someone driving :P

BVA is going to drop the pads off tomorrow..

draw dubs at haikey today. 2pm. pro/am format. drawing cards.

$7 entry. $3 for 3 mulligans (optional)

20 hole format, including two "mini" holes.

ca$h payout to everyone.

buy a disc from Seth Cook and get two free mullies. (thats a possibility of 5 mullies)

Due to the phone call i just received from Daryl Maxville, the haikey creek maintenance director, the 2/2 mini scheduled for saturday the 27th will now be a 10am work day, 2pm mini.

everyone bringing tools and helping in the work day will receive free entry into the mini at 2:00.

The County Parks Department has received complaints about some of the holes from casual players. The course is now "too hard".

Here is a list of changes that will be made:

Hole 2 - will be moved back to where it was.
Hole 5 - will be shortened approximately 100 feet.
Hole 6 - will be placed just before the densely wooded area.
Hole 8 - tee sign will be moved up about 100 feet.
Hole 9 - basket will be moved further away from both park roads, roughly 20-25 feet.
Hole 13 - basket will be moved closer by about 100 feet.

DO NOT WORRY! these winter-time changes will be quasi-permanent. I plan on retrofitting all of the aforementioned baskets with new center poles and a sleeve / collar apparatus to allow the course to be "changed" back to the Haikey that it is right this minute.

Monday night minis will start back as soon as we get daylight savings time back in March of 2011. Be looking to see these changes happening as soon as April.

but as far as changing it in the meantime, i'm afraid this has to happen.

... I feel ya , Slim ... I'll be there with gloves-on ...

let me be the first to say that this really sucks. I got so much input from you guys and thought we had made a really kick-@$$ course out there. It'll be back just the way it is now, it's just going to take a few months.

thanks in advance to all who can make it out to help. i know it's the saturday after thanksgiving and the day after "black friday"... :)

Haikey Creek, the course that changes like the seasons.:cool:

Hey Slim, I only need one volunteer to change the Owasso course.:D:D:D


So, come on out to Haikey everyone..............................

Lets move those baskets!
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And when Spring comes around again,
can you say ONE MORE TIME!!

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Monday Night Minis are almost here!

My first "scheduled" monday mini will take place on Monday, March 14. More details will soon follow.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls -- we have arrived at the start of another after-work mini season. ace pot starts at $177 tonight!

Tonight is the first Monday Night Mini at Haikey Creek. Signups are at the south end of the park, over by hole 13's basket and hole 14's tee. Look for the gray volkswagen.

All pro divisions - $10 entry (payout in cash)
All am divisions - $5 entry (payout in merchandise)

ace pot - $1
ctp - $1
mulligan tickets will return in 2011! 3 mulligans for $3.

there will be a small giveaway for those with tickets at each mini. save your tickets though -- the more minis you play, the more chances you have to win each week. Must be present to win!

there will be something BIG given away at a mini this year!

as always, my phone number is on the tdsa schedule. feel free to give me a call with any questions.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls -- we have arrived at the start of another after-work mini season. ace pot starts at $177 tonight!

Tonight is the first Monday Night Mini at Haikey Creek. Signups are at the south end of the park, over by hole 13's basket and hole 14's tee. Look for the gray volkswagen.

All pro divisions - $10 entry (payout in cash)
All am divisions - $5 entry (payout in merchandise)

ace pot - $1
ctp - $1
mulligan tickets will return in 2011! 3 mulligans for $3.

there will be a small giveaway for those with tickets at each mini. save your tickets though -- the more minis you play, the more chances you have to win each week. Must be present to win!

there will be something BIG given away at a mini this year!

as always, my phone number is on the tdsa schedule. feel free to give me a call with any questions.

Tee time?

gonna try to get everyone kicked off by 5:30 or 5:45.

Great, thanks!

I will be there to play...

First mini of the year, I can't wait!

I will also have everyone's prizes from GCD if they did not pick them up at the event.

there will NOT be a mini at haikey creek tonight. Everyone needs to go out and support Wayne at the river (and get dibs on a poker chip that could be your key to plastic bliss)

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Monday Night Minis are back! I will be in the south parking lot (13's basket / 14's tee-area) at 5:00 pm taking sign-ups. Will need to start between 5:30 and 5:45 to get the round finished before dark. BE ON TIME! last card will tee at 5:45 sharp.

Pro - $10
Am - $5 (all divisions offered)

Ace Pot $1 ($181 and rising)
CTP $1
Mulligans $1 each, limit 3 (tickets are back!)

as always, call me with any questions. 918.852.6543

Results for 3-28-2011

PRO

Adam Hunt 50

ADVANCED

Chuck Williams 51
James Patton 52
Ken Ward 53
Rodney Carpenter 54
Slim 54
David Batchelder 55
Nik Stophel 56
Matt Razmus 56
Jeremy Pfannenstiel 57
Tommy Agent 60
Bryan Hinds 61

INTERMEDIATE

James Garcia 58
Alex Gavrilov 62
Kelly Watkins 63
Daniel Brooks 69
Seth Harcrow 70

CTP - Hole 3 - Rod Carp, 11 inches

Next Event - Friday night flights, 4-1-2011

Great Am turnout Slim. I hope they can all make it out to the Am Jam May 14th and 15th (shameless plug). And Chuck is looking like our next new star in town. Just look at his score and the guy has been playing less than a year (and he returns lost discs)!

yeah he sure came out of nowhere last night! i was hoping for 3rd place until he walked up and handed in the 51 bomb on us. must have been the returned disc karma :)

he won't be under anyone's radar next week! he played well and is a nice guy to boot.

shameless plugs are awesome. come out to a mini and feel free to plug away :)

You guys are just a bunch of sweethearts...that or you're drinking at work. I was happy to finally score well at Haikey, it's frustrated me many times before, ha. Those 3 mullies didn't hurt anything either :D

Cris, I've already gotten off work for the Am-Jam and looking forward to it! Any ideas what courses we'll be on for the tourney yet?

You guys are just a bunch of sweethearts...that or you're drinking at work. I was happy to finally score well at Haikey, it's frustrated me many times before, ha. Those 3 mullies didn't hurt anything either :D

Cris, I've already gotten off work for the Am-Jam and looking forward to it! Any ideas what courses we'll be on for the tourney yet?

Chuck I should have the flyer out in the next couple of days, but the courses will be in this order (same as last year) Haikey & Hunter on Sat and Dovillio and McClure on Sunday. Glad to hear you are going to make it out to the Am Jam.
Playing like you are playing, you might not be an Am for long (no smiley face needed).

Is today flex start?

you ~can~ flex start, but i will be doing the ticket drawings and sending out the stragglers around 5:40 - 5:45. last week with a foursome we started at 5:50 and finished just as it got dark. with you fancy pros and your fancy long shots, i figure you'd be able to finish well before dark.

with that being said,

MINI AT HAIKEY TONIGHT!

I will be there around 5:00. Last card(s) will tee at 5:45. If you get a group together and want to tee prior to that, feel free. Ticket drawings are always "need to be present to win" since i dont know who has what tickets.

Ace pot starts at $188. We will be playing 8 from the short and 14 from the short.

Tonights ticket drawing is a best buy gift card of mystery value! could be $1, could be $100!

Thanks for the running the mini.

glad to do it kyle. John Barton delivered the hardware to retrofit three of the baskets today, so there will be a major workday on the horizon....

and with that being said, here are last night's results. (wouldve posted sooner but i was a moron and left my laptop running during the round, thus rendering the battery nearly dead when we finished.)

PRO

Kyle Wilkes 52
Zach Lund 56
Ken Ward 56
Johnny Thompson 62
Taylor Sears dnf

ADVANCED

James Patton 55
Matt Razmus 59
Tommy Agent 60
Chuck Williams 61
Joe Felder 62
Gorden Hall 63
Bill Moyers 65
Drew Custer 66
Corbin Capages 66

INTERMEDIATE

Aaron Calvert 55
Lee Joshua 58
Kelly Watkins 59
Ian Finch 60
Jason Mays 65
Garrett Mobley 66
Shaun Murphy 66
Joe Deere 67
Tyler Gallamore 67
Tom Reese 72
Cameron McManus 72

CTP - Hole 3 - Johnny Thompson

No aces hit (but Tommy Agent hit dead center on hole 3 and spit out)

Ace pot is now $198, re-seed $98.

Tuesday Riverside
Wednesday Hunter
Thursday Chandler (bag tags for sale if you dont have yours yet)
Friday, Saturday, Sunday - CHANDLERSTOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!

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... but Tommy Agent hit dead center on hole 3 and spit out ...

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... "Too Close For Aces . . . Switching To Birds" ...

he hit the chains so hard that when they reverberated it kicked the disc back out.

he hit the chains so hard that when they reverberated it kicked the disc back out.
that means he needed a havier disc, used to happen to me with a 150 class putter but not with the 175 I use now.:)

aaaaaaand i'm an uber-slacker.

Monday 4-11-11 mini results:

ADVANCED
Gary Harrison 54
James Patton 56
Brandon Peak 56
Matt Gibbs 58
Tommy Agent 60
Chuck Williams 60
Aaron Calvert 61
Rodney Carpenter 62
Slim 63

INTERMEDIATE
Kelly Watkins 61
Joe Felder 62
Chris Conner 70

RECREATIONAL
Adam Gibbs 63
Biggie Williams 68

CTP - Hole 3 - Adam Gibbs
Ace Pot now $210 / $100

Mini tonight at Haikey. I will arrive between 5:00 and 5:15 to take signups. cards and ticket drawings between 5:45 and 5:50.

Ace pot starts at $210

playing 8 from the short and 14 from the short.

as always, we meet at the far south end of the course.

Great job...thanks Slim! It's nice to see all the players interested in playing the minis!

yea good job Slim... Park was packed (cops and all) and everyone seemed to have a great time. The lighting will work itself out...

First off - i want to say SORRY to everyone who made it out that we got started so late, and SORRY that i jumbled all the groups together hastily at the last minute, and SORRY that we had to finish in the dark. Next week i WILL BRING HELP!

I've been averaging 10-15 players at haikey on monday nights -- tonight i had 35.

Kelly Watkins is your CTP Winner.

PRO

Josh Crowl 48
Abe Barbour 50
Scott Wilkinson 51
Mark Vasicek 51
Jesse Sellers 52
Aaron Triska 53
Terry Vasicek 54

PRO WOMEN

Teresa Duff 71

ADVANCED

(totally listing my name first)

Slim 56
Drew Custer 56
Brandon Peak 56
Corbin Capages 56
Bryan Hinds 57
Adrian Gastelum 59
David Batchelder 59
Brandon Langston 59
Bobby Barnes 61
Dough Duff 65
Victor Frescaz 67

INTERMEDIATE

Rob Davis 56
Austin Thornton 56
Michael Wright 58
Joe White 60
JoJo Gunn 60
Mike Woodard 62
Joe Felder 62
Justin Lamproe 62
Ryan Nance 64
Kelly Watkins 64
Doctor Doom 65
Jesse Nelson 65
Josh Stanley 66
Tom Reese 67
Dustin Maxwell 68
Dustin Lee 70

Next - Tuesday 6:00 Riverside

Nice turn out. Sorry we had to play early. Busy night. Shot a mulligan free 48 though!! I hope to see you next Mon. Nice rd Josh!!

i'm going to put it this way:

the mini for tonight is not cancelled, but i strongly encourage folks to skip this one. Haikey is known to have flooding issues and i'd be willing to bet that lots of spots will have a lot of standing water. I will be in my normal spot at 5:00 to take signups, but i am not playing tonight.


also, with the work-day being next weekend, if there are lots of muddy footprints in areas we need to have "smooth" for possible teepad transpositioning, then playing tonight will possibly just mean more work for us this weekend.

i hate to sound like johnny raincloud, but it's nasty out there.

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Come on Slim it ain't that bad.........Don't be a......................

http://thisisthestoryof.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/cats-do-not-like-water.jpg?w=410&h=276


A little wet shouldn't upset you.......

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i'm going to put it this way:

the mini for tonight is not cancelled, but i strongly encourage folks to skip this one. Haikey is known to have flooding issues and i'd be willing to bet that lots of spots will have a lot of standing water. I will be in my normal spot at 5:00 to take signups, but i am not playing tonight.


also, with the work-day being next weekend, if there are lots of muddy footprints in areas we need to have "smooth" for possible teepad transpositioning, then playing tonight will possibly just mean more work for us this weekend.

i hate to sound like johnny raincloud, but it's nasty out there.

I called Darryl, the maintenance supervisor for Haikey, and he said that several fairways, teepads and tee-areas are under 3-6" of standing water. keep in mind the ditch you cross to get to 14's basket and 15's tee will probably have a small river in it. the ditch by 15's basket wont be much fun, either. hole 9 could eat some discs thrown by someone who goes through the trees and doesnt get through cleanly.

Yadda yadda yadda.........deal with it! Still way better than 21" of snow.

... so ? ... wanna borrow my Dragon ? ...

� one of my old Paul Simon favorites � dedicated to my old DX RAM golf-discs : �Still Hyzer ; After ALLLLL These Years� �

� er another Paul Simon ditty : �there must be ; Fifty Ways to Heave Your Putter� �

� and then again : �Goodbye VALLLLL-Kyrie � Queen o� the Roller � singin� Me and NUKE-eeyo , Down By The School-Yard� �

Yadda yadda yadda.........deal with it! Still way better than 21" of snow.

dont even know why you're talking -- you'll just not play the mini like you did last week.

Was planning on playing the mini, but had things to take care of before dark.

What time was it when you finished last week?

... little "cut-n-paste" job from our Mini-Schedule ...
... after our "CENTENNIAL SATURDAY" , the following is on tap for this Sunday, May 1 ...
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" > Sun. May 1 �Haikey Get-A-Lot-Done Day� Special
> > > WorkDay Volunteers requested from 9:30am and up
> > > Afternoon Special Mini-Tournament at 3:00pm
> > > Early Helpers receive free Ace-Pot entry , free CTP entry ,
> > > two free mullies , and double-tickets ! "
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... sounds like some good, productive Fun ... earns good Course Karma ...

due to the huge amount of water we've received over the past few days and the tendencies for Haikey to hold water, sunday's workday will consist solely of trash and debris cleanup and converting holes 2, 5, and 6 into "sleeved" baskets. we had hoped to rent some equipment and attempt to move the teepads from the woods to the new holes across the street. i have prepped the sleeves to be buried and have the remaining hardware to convert the baskets onto new center poles. the afternoon mini will run very similar to my monday night minis in format with tickets, giveaways, and mulligans.

if centennial kicks your butt tomorrow, come get some revenge at haikey on sunday! get some good course mojo by helping us dig holes and pick up trash on sunday morning!

... diggin' those spots-for-sleeves should be "easy-breezy" ... nice time to excavate 'n' cultivate ...

How was the mini tonight??

Was there a mini at Haikey last night??

Slim, are you out there?

"Hello,

Is there anybody in there?

Just nod if you can hear me

Is there any one at home??"

1. getting your password retrieved from your desk at your former employer..... sucks.

2. i have results from the last two minis that i will be getting posted up here in the next couple of hours.

3. there is a mini at haikey tonight and the ace pot starts at $280.

4. going to move 5 and 6 short and play 8 and 14 short just to give everyone more chances to make chain music. :)

Glad to see you back Slim..

Big ace pot and some shorter holes, sounds like a good combo to me...

BOOM goes the ace pot! Stay tuned for more details!

ok, lets catch up on results, shall we?

again, sorry for the delays. if you dont know already, i was laid off on april 29th. i did all of my posting from work, and my password was saved onto that computer.

5-2-11

OPEN
Adam Hunt 48
Mark Vasicek 54
Nick Roesle 57

ADVANCED
Chuck Williams 52
Bill Moyers 55
Corbin Capages 55
Roger Lawrence 56
Matt Shipley 56
Matt Gibbs 58

INTERMEDIATE
Bobby Barnes 57
Dr. Doom 60

NOVICE
Ty Rainey 55
Shane Wiedemann 58
Zack White 59
Adam Gibbs 61
Colton Nevel 62

5-9-11

OPEN
Gary Harrison 49
Cris Hicks 50
Ken Ward 53
Jesse Sellers 55

ADVANCED
Brandon Peak 50
Nick Roesle 50
Victor Frescaz 52
Corbin Capages 56
Joe Felder 57
Drew Custer 57
Eric Rainey 58
Justin Lamproe 58
Bill Moyers 59
Austin Thornton 59
Phil Grandstaff 60
Chuck Williams 62
Tommy Agent 66

INTERMEDIATE
Anson Adams 57
Charlie Chung 60
Kelly Watkins 60
Dr. Doom 64
Patrick Hair 69

and now,

5-16-2011

OPEN
Sam Nielsen 49
Scott Sable 50
Ken Ward 57

ADVANCED
Drew Custer 51
Chuck Williams 51
Gary Harrison 54
Bill Moyers 55
Corbin Capages 56
Rob Davis 56
Steve Harney 56
Tommy Agent 57
James Patton 57
Victor Frescaz 60
Nicody Tucker 60

INTERMEDIATE
Kelly Watkins 55
Bobby Barnes 55
Dr. Doom 61

NOVICE
Alex Mayfield 59
Dustin Miller 61
Calvin Frank 62
Jesse Nelson 62
Brandon Denton 63
Daryn Cowan 64
Ryan Hill 67
Jim Latta 71

CTP - Hole 3 - Steve Harney
ACE - Hole 8 - Bobby Barnes, taking home $303!!!!!!! Congrats Bobby!

NEXT EVENT: Tuesday Nite Flights, 7:30pm, Riverside - get yo' self a poker chip with the Forest!

Unless some reeeeallly nasty storms percolate between now and 6pm, we will be having a mini tonight. However - if bad stuff pops up, i will not be afraid to pull everyone off the course.

see you at haikey!

Atta boy. Way to stay strong. Same rules as last week to speed up the mini?

yes. baskets 5 and 6 are "short", play holes 8 and 14 from the "short" pads. ace pot is $100 plus half of tonight.

Thanks for running it. Outside of a sprinkle or two,the conditions were perfect. Another solid round by Mr. Hunt.

Scores?

There is a mini, as scheduled, tonight at 6:00. I will be out there at 4:30 with entry forms for state championships as well as mini schedules.

If you played last week, you have a free CTP this week due to us not throwing it off in the pouring rain last monday night.

hopw to see you all out there!

Had fun tonight, nice night for golf for sure.
congrats to Zack for the ACE!!

Results from 5-30-11:

OPEN
Devan Owens 47
Paul Dorries 48
Abe Barbour 49
Chris Hutchinson 52
Zach Lund 52 (Aced Hole 3, $115) (newest TDSA member)
Gary Harrison 53

ADVANCED
Brandon Peak 51
Tommy Agent 52
Slim 53
Liz Lopez 55
Corbin Capages 56
Matt Goode 57
Caleb Sanders 59
Victor Frescaz 60
Tyler Gallamore 60
Roger Lawrence 61

INTERMEDIATE
Adam Gibbs 59
John Gray 60
Anson Adams 62
Brandon Merrill 64
Chris Cervantes 65
Max Gray 66
Tim Owings 81

Ace - Zach Lund, Hole 3
CTP - Abe Barbour, Hole 6

Tuesday - Riverside, 6pm

So my sister gets a phone call on Monday night at 10:08pm from a guy who says he found her disc. The only one she remembers even losing in Oklahoma is a teal colored Star Beast I gave her that she loved and lost it at Haikey during a practice round at the Oklahoma Open last year. This guy left her a voicemail since she didn't answer and said he found her disc, threw it and loved it, and said she won't be getting it back. Now I can understand if someone found it and decided to keep it. But to call and tell her she won't be getting it back is Bullsh*t! Here is his number 918-237-0488. So I am asking everyone reading this to look in your phones and see if you know who this guy is. I just want his name. Thanks

Its a SWB land line. located near downtown. I think we should all just start blowing up his phone, since he thought it was SO cute to call her and rub it in.

I'll start now.

Give him a call, he will answer just talked to him and told hims since that was a chitty thing to do, we are going to repay the favor. BLOW IT UP PEOPLE! Take a moment, give the guy a call and tell him he is a DICK!

918-2370488

This guy is a TOOL! I called him and he texted me back........

"I have your number and your wife's too. If you wanna start this game then go ahead. I was drunk and we were laughing about it, thinking were giving you guys a story to tell...sorry, didn't know it would bother u.. But go ahead and make your move if you want....."

There you go guys an open invitation to screw with him.

I told him, I'm about the last person he wants to screw with, call my wife and find out.


SCREW WITH HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

918-237-0488

Received another text from him.....

"Are you serious bro calling me at 8:45 in the morning over a $6 dollar disc?? I'm not going to bother you, or your wife.. I promise. But if I start getting random calls, its game on. your move wierdo"

Let him have it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ring him off the wall.............

I told him, "Well it seemed okay for you to call them at 11pm so I picked 8am to call you and I'm probably only the first in a long long line."

Anything left in the poor little ace pot?

thanks for the lead-in, Kyle. :)

MINI AT HAIKEY TONIGHT! We will start around 6:10pm. Please try to be there by 6:00.

I will be bringing a cooler with bottled water because it's so friggin hot outside.

Ace pot has been beaten up pretty bad in recent weeks, so I will be moving baskets 5 and 6 back to the "long" pins until after the state championships. It will start at.. hold on to your seats.. $14!! woo! git you some!

Tonight's raffle giveaways will be gift cards to Marble Slab Creamery located by the bass pro shops, and at least one CFR "glo" disc with your 2011 state logo on it.

I WILL HAVE ENTRY FORMS WITH ME FOR THE TOURNAMENT TONIGHT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRE-REGISTER.

What are the pins gonna look like at the mini tonight? Same course as this weekend???

Thanks for fixing the basket Gumby!! It was a scary little guy

i moved 5 to the longs tonight. i will be moving 6 back to the longs tomorrow after work. gonna lay out the preliminary "island" as well for this weekend.

if you are wanting to pre-register and cannot sign up online, feel free to give me a call.

Scores? Thanks

� by necessity , the standing Reward situation has been re-invoked , and refreshed � as the official Law Enforcements and County-Parks-Legal-System have been notified and recorded (by your TD Bill Moyers) ; the DGA Basket in location # 15 Haikey Creek was dug-up and stolen last Friday night 6/17/2011 � between the hours of 10:30pm Friday and 5:00am Saturday � the suspect(s) have size 9 tennis-shoe-with-a-cross-hatch-pattern (photographed) -and- a size 11 tennis-shoe-with-non-intersecting-circles-on-the-tread (also photographed) � if you see this shoe-type (OR they may now switch to NEW footwear upon hearing this) , keep mental-notes � the Mach-III style with upper-number-plate would have had the concrete-ball still-on-center-pipe at least Saturday � remember those details and whereabouts � might spark a memory �
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� ANY information leading to arrest and conviction would net you the TDSA reward of $300.00 cash � PLUS the added-by-Forest amount of $300.00 cash � PLUS the added-by-Geurin amount of $400.00 � total CASH reward for good info to catch-a-thief = $1,000.00 �
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� this IS officially a FELONY THEFT in Oklahoma � Authorities involved are READY-TO-PROSECUTE in Criminal Court � depending on any-past-record(s) , this may net someone-caught a new-orange-jumpsuit at Big-Mac � what a risk by these bozos �

� side note � just yesterday , 6/20/2011 : some information was received about a �possible� sighting � that was checked-out within a two-hour-period � that Basket situation turned out to be legit � but KUDOS for sharp-eyed tips like that � keep your Radar on ; eyes and ears open wide �

Me and my friend came up to Tulsa from norman on Monday and leaving in the morning. We wanted to play all the courses we haven't yet and played haikey this morning. That course is awesome it may be my favorite we've played ever. The only bad thing is that I lost my champion 1st run xcaliber. It's yellow with a rainbow stamp. I threw it on 14 and it went left towards the the creek/river it should be shorter than the tree that is out over the water. We looked as much as possible in the jungle grass and didn't have luck and when I was about to get in the water we saw a water moccasin take off which changed my mind since we weren't even sure it was in the water. After the major storm last night it was flowing pretty bad so I was scared anyway. Were only 16 so my mom most likely wound of been mad if I got in with the water moving like it was. Any way so it may be in the tall grass between the old pad and that tree or may be about 5 miles down the river thanks to the flood last night. I will give an award or discs or something if somebody found it. And if you do and I get it back I will guarantee you it'll be a good reward..say a CE valkryie?

Bill or anyone. It looks like I left my stool at the State Championships. It was a Camp Time with an orange LSDisc sticker on the seat and a gold Twisted Flyer tornado outline sticker on one leg. If anyone found it. Please let me know.

The only bad thing is that I lost my champion 1st run xcaliber. It's yellow with a rainbow stamp. I threw it on 14 and it went left towards the the creek/river it should be shorter than the tree that is out over the water.

I looked around yesterday for your disc, as I had lost my champion xcal myself on monday. After 15 minutes I finally found mine. I couldn't locate yours though, but could you be a little more specific on which tree it was? Was it the first tree, which is on the bank, or the second set of tree, which is literally right on the water down at the bottom of the ravine?

It was the 2nd one right on the water. And congrats on finding yours! Their great discs!

Bill or anyone. It looks like I left my stool at the State Championships. It was a Camp Time with an orange LSDisc sticker on the seat and a gold Twisted Flyer tornado outline sticker on one leg. If anyone found it. Please let me know.

your stool is safe and sound in my trunk. i am playing alma on saturday - if you are going to be there, i will have it with me. if not - is there anyone going who i can trust to give your stool to and return it to you?

and i run a lost-n-found out of my car and have not seen any xcal's. but i will keep my eyes peeled for it. glad you liked the course.

Okay thanks. And whens the next tournament at haikey. Id like to play it

Is tommorrow the last 10am mini that was to be Rick's ?
Haikey Creek 10am I might be there.
D.P.

Okay thanks. And whens the next tournament at haikey. Id like to play it


We have a Haikey mini every monday night at 6:00. as far as sanctioned events, you are looking at the 2012 haikey creek classic.

Chuck Williams called me last night and was asking about the mini this morning. with my newfound employment, i can no longer run friday morning events. he said he would run $5 draw doubles this morning. so look for his black jetta.

thanks chuck.

Is tommorrow the last 10am mini that was to be Rick's ?
Haikey Creek 10am ...


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Slim couldnt make it.
Chuck ran it as promised with a little help from me. Cards, Pencils, Advice.
We played Dubs. With a 7 some and a 4 some :(
You will me missed Rick. :(
D.P. . . .

i really, really, REALLY appreciate everyone stepping up to help out covering these.

be looking for something big in the near future.

see you all out there tomorrow night.

Mini at Haikey tonight. tee at 6:00.

my selection of discs is very limited after state. i will be making a disc order thru innova and discraft sometime this week.

if you show up tonight, tell me what kinds of discs you would like to see in my stash so i can make an intelligent order. or, just tell me on here. thanks for your help, and see you tonight!

Hey Mr. Slim..

I see you are sending Haikey results to the Tulsa World..

Any chance of getting them posted on here and or facebook??

Just checking. I know I like to see how everyone played and I assume others do as well..

yeah i have slacked big-time about posting scores since i got the new job.

i called the winners into the paper on my way home last night just so they'd have a chance of making it.

got home, showered, crashed. i have ZERO free time on an average day at work, especially for the next 3-4 weeks.

i'll fire up the laptop tomorrow night and post everything that i'm lacking on here and on FB.

you still in BOS?

Thanks for running the mini Slim. Sad ace by new guy. Not in ace pot.