2010 South Texas Shootout in Beeville, Texas:

Tournament number 3 on the 3rd Coast Booty Tour takes us to Beeville on May 22 and 23 for the 2010 SOUTH TEXAS SHOOTOUT. This is a PDGA B-Tier event. Minimum $500 added to the Pro purse. This is one of the best event's in South Texas and we anticipate that it will fill up early so register quickly, call the boss and reserve the days off, and tell the wife/husband and kids (unless they play too) that you are going to the show! Now if ya'll don't have a wife/husband then there is no excuse. Registration can be completed at http://www.3rdcoastdiscgolf.com .
Entry Fees are as follows:

All PRO divisions: $65

All ADVANCE divisions: $55

All INTERMEDIATE divisions: $40

All RECREATIONAL divisions: $30

**Optional $5 Ace Pot not included**

THERE IS A NON-PDGA MEMBER FEE OF $10

SOUTH TEXAS SHOOTOUT FORMAT v.3.0.1.2.3 (hopefully the last change):

2 Rounds of golf with 20 Holes per round on Saturday.

1 Round of golf with 24 holes on Sunday.

Registration will begin at 7:30 and we will stop registration at 8:15, so we ask that everyone be there early enough so we can get the cards put together with in the required time frame. Players meeting will begin around 8:30 and tee off will start around 9:00. There will be an hour and a half break between rounds AFTER the last card is turned in so a prospective tee off for the second round will be 2:15. Sunday's round will start at 8:30.

We have lot's of folks already taking advantage of the online sign-up's at http://www.3rdcoastdiscgolf.com and have a great list so far. We will post the list here next Monday (4/26/10). Time to register now as this event WILL fill up soon. The course is looking great with all the rain that has been coming down the past several weeks, the City has mowed fairways throughout the front and the back is well shaded with all the tree growth. If you have any questions about the event or would like some sponsorship info please post here or contact us at info@3rdcoastdiscgolf.com . We welcome your input and comments.

If the you use Firefox or another internet browser and the form from 3c's site doesn't work for you please let us know here or PM me and I will make sure that you get on the list. We have had a lot of entries come from online and like I said a couple of days ago this one seems to be filling up. Get in early cause procrastination is going to be a killer with this one. If you haven't played one of the Shootout's yet now would be a great time.

We are getting some cool raffle prizes and of course our proceeds will go to the EDGE foundation. We have confirmed some awesome CTP stuff and a ladies ONLY CTP so come on down ladies and win some neat prizes!

when is the pdga going to have the tournament page up? i'd like to see how many are signed up and which divisions.

ladies only ctp??? come on gals get crackin'!!!!

H-town gals will be in the house!

Glad to hear that suemac. We are discussing the format, again, and might make some adjustments. I will post here when we finish making up our minds.

Ish... I will post a list on here Monday. The sanctioning agreement has not completed yet.

will there be dubs friday?

Ish... I will post a list on here Monday. The sanctioning agreement has not completed yet.

oh yeah, i read that up there... sorry got a little trigger happy

You tell'em Bill. Pay attention people.

Ironing out the details Lance?

I have it on good authority that there are some BIG birthdays over this weekend.

Gemini birthdays are the best! ;)

I have it on good authority that there are some BIG birthdays over this weekend.

Gemini birthdays are the best! ;)

indeed!

It's tuesday

He just has to draw attention to himself. You know how those Marroquin boys are.

He just has to draw attention to himself. You know how those Marroquin boys are.

you know you love me lance. i'll expect the best present from you.

Lance is just wishing his birthday was going to be that weekend. Sorry, you'll just have to wish ME a happy day! I know another famous Texas disc golfer born on May 24th, do you know who that is???

you know you love me lance. i'll expect the best present from you.

How about a blue 168 Champion Katana? I know right were you can find it.

How about a blue 168 Champion Katana? I know right were you can find it.

BAZINGA!

lance, i believe this knife is yours.

sue, i wouldn't say i'm a famous disc golfer from texas but my bday is on may 24th in the year of the monkey.

Star Katana comes out Monday. Hint hint.

Players list is up. As of this morning there are a few names missing (like 20 or so) but C-4 is on it. http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=10575

In case anyone missed out here is the format:

SOUTH TEXAS SHOOTOUT FORMAT:

3 Rounds of golf with 18 Holes per round.
We will have a Final 9 for the top half of each division.
Registration will begin at 7:30 and we will stop registration at 8:15, so we ask that everyone be there early enough so we can get the cards put together with in the required time frame. Players meeting will begin around 8:30 and tee off will start around 9:00. There will be an hour and a half break between rounds AFTER the last card is turned in so a prospective tee off for the second round will be 2:15. Sunday's round will start at 8:30 and the final 9 will begin approximately 1:15.

There will be Doubles on Friday. I will be running it.

Normal dubs entry fees apply

Am is 20 and Open is 30 (per Team)

Dub's Flex start around 2:00 PM with the last card going out at 6PM

Thanks to all on Facebook and PDGA PM that has asked me to put your names on the list. You are all on the list.


We have some really bad Angus plastic available for this event. This list is from our very own C-4.

Champion Boss XG (Extra Gummy)

Champion Firebird

CFR Glow Destroyer

CFR Katana

CFR Gummy Star Rhyno

R Pro Aviar

CFR Glow Xcaliber

KC Pro Aviar

Star ROC Plus

Star Mako

Echo Wraith

Echo Destroyer

Star Valkyrie

Star Boss

BAZINGA!

sue, i wouldn't say i'm a famous disc golfer from texas but my bday is on may 24th in the year of the monkey.

He's old, really old fart. The Notorious Land Baron, Randon Dillingham was also born on the 24th.

Me birthday is Saturday, 22nd. I have it on good authority that we're bringing some celebration suds from Southern Star. Can anyone say....

PINE BELT PALE ALE? :D

Players list will be updated today. Many thanks to C-4. We appreciate you more than you will ever know!

It seems that I should be available for running doubles on Friday. I have that weekend, starting Friday afternoon clear.

I will also work on a host hotel for the golfers and see if we can't have a players party there. Maybe some Texas hold'em event or something. We'll keep you posted.

C4 is a man among boys.

Put the SAN ANTONIO DISC CLUB / ALAMO DISC SERIES down as a sponsor. I'll bring a sweet CTP pack for the tourney ... just make sure to pick a cool hole for it.

Thanks Scott!!! bring a couple of car loads...
i know just the hole for your ctp...

Thanks Scott!!! bring a couple of car loads...
i know just the hole for your ctp...

I know 3 for sure. Micah, Marcos, & Chesterson. I'll see if I can get a few more lined up.

Players list has been updated, you can check it out here http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=10575

Bill,

I forgot to put Jackie's PDGA number on the form on 3C website it is 37389.

Thanks
Lance

Lesli Trahan #41434 FW3 Another one of our lovely ladies from the Houston area.

Final 9? Why not just play 3 rounds and be out by 2pm?

Either that or make it 13 holes so that ratings can be calculated for the holes........for me at least I liked the original 3C idea of three rounds and then you're on the way home or sticking around for dubs.

At the moment the final 9 adds 2 1/2 -3 hours to the day with the only benefit being that you replay 9 of the holes you have already played 3 times and it isn't even rated.

Sorry but final 9's need to be good holes and not like what we played at Ingleside. It would have been nice to have played 3 rounds then head to the beach instead of staying 3 hours longer to play 9 not-so-great holes.

It is good to see Matt griping before the tournament. I tend to agree. Sucked losing something like 7 strokes to C4 to boot.

Final 9? Why not just play 3 rounds and be out by 2pm?

Either that or make it 13 holes so that ratings can be calculated for the holes........for me at least I liked the original 3C idea of three rounds and then you're on the way home or sticking around for dubs.

At the moment the final 9 adds 2 1/2 -3 hours to the day with the only benefit being that you replay 9 of the holes you have already played 3 times and it isn't even rated.

Sorry but final 9's need to be good holes and not like what we played at Ingleside. It would have been nice to have played 3 rounds then head to the beach instead of staying 3 hours longer to play 9 not-so-great holes.

Originally I wanted to have 4 rounds and it was voted down. I like the format we have selected. The final 9 will give some folks a chance to move up the field a bit or falter. I still want the full 4 rounds though. It has been a while since I have played a full four round B-Tier. We are committed to 2 days of golf so we might as well get as much out of it as possible. Even with the final 9 it leaves room for a dubs round after awards, and it will be in the cooler part of the day. So are you looking for a big money blind draw dubs or what?

Originally I wanted to have 4 rounds and it was voted down. I like the format we have selected. The final 9 will give some folks a chance to move up the field a bit or falter. I still want the full 4 rounds though. It has been a while since I have played a full four round B-Tier. We are committed to 2 days of golf so we might as well get as much out of it as possible. Even with the final 9 it leaves room for a dubs round after awards, and it will be in the cooler part of the day. So are you looking for a big money blind draw dubs or what?

I would rather have four than 3 and a Final 9 (unless the final nine is Safari or skins).

Beeville is a decent course but the final 9 won't be too exciting on the original holes.

It is good to see Matt griping before the tournament. I tend to agree. Sucked losing something like 7 strokes to C4 to boot.

That is the point!

I knew I wouldn't win after the 1st few bad breaks and since the round wasn't rated I just let it get worse knowing it didn't mean anything.


Brad wasn't happy about playing the original course either and we both would have preferred the Gold course or just a more difficult setup besides a birdie-fest.

Is there going to be any information on a host hotel? Or does anyone have a suggestion on best choice in the area.

Is there going to be any information on a host hotel? Or does anyone have a suggestion on best choice in the area.

don't know about a "host" hotel, but i still prefer http://www.americasbestvalueinn.com... from the site..."Reserve two or more consecutive nights for stays between March 15th and May 31st to receive a 20 percent discount off our Best Available Rates."

1 king bed $39.96 a night plus taxes
2 queen beds $43.20 a night plus taxes

i've stayed there twice and never had any problems.

Matt are you going to sign up for this event?

Matt are you going to sign up for this event?



I will be there with Sue and Emily.

I will be there with Sue and Emily.
Thank you Matt. We will put you on the list. See you there!

The thought with the Ingleside final 9 was that people had earned their positions through the first three rounds, and the final 9 gave people an opportunity to make a lot of birdies and hopefully jump some spots. If you were one of the top spots, it was your job to maintain your position by shooting well.

Do you think they'll be able to geta full mow on the course prior to the event? I think all the wildflowers should be just about done with dropping their seeds, at least they are in SA, as I've seen some of the park/road areas starting to get mowed around here.

Format Changed...

SOUTH TEXAS SHOOTOUT FORMAT v.3.0.1.2.3:

2 Rounds of golf with 20 Holes per round on Saturday.

1 Round of golf with 24 holes on Sunday.

Registration will begin at 7:30 and we will stop registration at 8:15, so we ask that everyone be there early enough so we can get the cards put together with in the required time frame. Players meeting will begin around 8:30 and tee off will start around 9:00. There will be an hour and a half break between rounds AFTER the last card is turned in so a prospective tee off for the second round will be 2:15. Sunday's round will start at 8:30.

If you have sent me a message via FB, PM or email and your name is not on the list please let me know.

As far as the mowing is concerned it is up to the city folks there. It is the opinion of the city that if the flowers are blooming then they stay. However, there will be fairways mowed if they cannot mow it all.

man... two weeks left.... why is it taking so long??

are we getting the island hole again?

Format Changed...

SOUTH TEXAS SHOOTOUT FORMAT:

2 Rounds of golf with 21 Holes per round on Saturday.

1 Round of golf with 24 holes on Sunday.

Registration will begin at 7:30 and we will stop registration at 8:15, so we ask that everyone be there early enough so we can get the cards put together with in the required time frame. Players meeting will begin around 8:30 and tee off will start around 9:00. There will be an hour and a half break between rounds AFTER the last card is turned in so a prospective tee off for the second round will be 2:15. Sunday's round will start at 8:30.

I like this a lot more but here is something to think about..................2 more holes (26 total) will allow you to get ratings for 2 separate rounds since the minimum is 13 holes per round.

So if you want to add 2 holes the event can have for rated rounds 21-21-13-13. Crowley does this with two 30 hole rounds broken into four 15 hole rounds.

Like that crowley format you mentioned. It is something to think about... maybe for june's wild wild west guth challenge.

21-21-13-13. Crowley does this with two 30 hole rounds broken into four 15 hole rounds.

How does that work for ratings if your first 15 holes are 1-15 and my first 15 are 9-23? Let's say I have a couple of par 4s and one par 5 but you have all par 3s.

How does that work for ratings if your first 15 holes are 1-15 and my first 15 are 9-23? Let's say I have a couple of par 4s and one par 5 but you have all par 3s.

You have to play them as distinct rounds to count as the ratings system only works if players are playing the course at the same time (one reason I argue against tee times and ratings working together). So if you had 30 holes, players should play 1-15 as one round and 16 - 30 as a second rounhd. When you are done with hole 15 you proceed to hole 1, not to hole 16. Make sense?

So, is there any hotel we are recommending players frequent? Where is the CC crew staying?

How does that work for ratings if your first 15 holes are 1-15 and my first 15 are 9-23? Let's say I have a couple of par 4s and one par 5 but you have all par 3s.

if the players in your division are playing the same holes/course it shouldn't be a problem. it's like the vic open this year with two courses. just need the propogators playing, that's all.

After thinking about it it doesn't matter. Everyone plays the same thirty holes and 1-15 is round one 16-30 is round two. But I agree with Scott that it works out more like tee times. Any way no one plays the same holes in the same conditions if there is any weather variances even in a shotgun start. That is just golf.

After thinking about it it doesn't matter. Everyone plays the same thirty holes and 1-15 is round one 16-30 is round two. But I agree with Scott that it works out more like tee times. Any way no one plays the same holes in the same conditions if there is any weather variances even in a shotgun start. That is just golf.

I just wanted to say that you can't really have a player start on hole 5, play 5-15, got to 16, play 16-30, then go to 1 and play 1-5. You should really seperate them out as 2 distinct rounds played at the same time by the same group (maybe use pools) so the ratings are more like for like. Who is this Scott character you speak of?

Some crazy dude from Iowa or some where.

Who cares? Why do some of you guys seem to be soooooooooooooo consumed by ratings and such? We all survived before they were around.


Can't we all just have fun and not be so worried about such shallow stuff?

Hey Lady! Some of us have not been around long enough to have played prior to ratings.

Who cares? Why do some of you guys seem to be soooooooooooooo consumed by ratings and such? We all survived before they were around.


Can't we all just have fun and not be so worried about such shallow stuff?


Because Brad and Olse are both higher than me........although one will be slipping a bit on the next update.

Some crazy dude from Iowa or some where.

WOW, he sounds like a great guy! :D

When I lived in Missouri people claimed IOWA was an acronym for "Idiots Out Wandering Around".

When I lived in Missouri people claimed IOWA was an acronym for "Idiots Out Wandering Around".

This from Missouri. FYI, A recent study ranked Iowa as the 4th "smartest state". The general rule is the further south you go the dumber the state. Isn't Corpus south of San Antonio :D

I didn't say I said it. A radio host had a contest one day for an acronym for IWOA. I remember that one and I don't why but "International Onion Workers Association". That one isn't even funny. Peope in Missouri have issues with Iwoa for some reason.

I didn't say I said it. A radio host had a contest one day for an acronym for IWOA. I remember that one and I don't why but "International Onion Workers Association". That one isn't even funny. Peope in Missouri have issues with Iwoa for some reason.

Do you know why the Mississippi and Missouri Rivers flow south from Iowa to Missouri?

Cause Missouri sucks ... hahahaha

Now back to your regularly scheduled program!

I thought it was because they were trying to get out of Iowa.

If you have sent me a message via FB, PM or email and your name is not on the list please let me know.

As far as the mowing is concerned it is up to the city folks there. It is the opinion of the city that if the flowers are blooming then they stay. However, there will be fairways mowed if they cannot mow it all.

Hey Mr. B. Can i still get on the list for open Jayson Houston 26668

Hey Bill signed up on the form if you could confirm that you still have spots available.
thanks sir

12 women.....good to see

Hey Bill signed up on the form if you could confirm that you still have spots available.
thanks sir

You are in!

Friday cant come quick enough!!!!!!!! Where is everyone staying?

Friday cant come quick enough!!!!!!!! Where is everyone staying?

The San Antonio Crew will be staying at the Best Western right by the park.

You are in!

thank you

Leslie, Joe, Matt, Aqua and me went with the cheap option. Is it Friday yet?

Cheap option? meaning camping? I doubt it. Maybe cheap as in motel 6? If so we wil see u there.

No camping, but I have camped in that park before...........in November! We're at American Best Value, as everywhere is close to the park in Beeville. Especially when you are from Houston.

don't know about a "host" hotel, but i still prefer http://www.americasbestvalueinn.com... from the site..."Reserve two or more consecutive nights for stays between March 15th and May 31st to receive a 20 percent discount off our Best Available Rates."

1 king bed $39.96 a night plus taxes
2 queen beds $43.20 a night plus taxes

i've stayed there twice and never had any problems.

See ya'll tomorrow!

Please remember to reserve your room online in order to get the discount at americas best value. If you call the front desk to reserve it will not work. Mando Marroquin will be running dubz for me as I have to work and might not make it until Saturday morning. The dubz will start around 2:30 with the last card going out at 6

The San Antonio Crew will be staying at the Best Western right by the park.

We are planning to BBQ at the Hotel (Best Western). I guess they have a grill right near the pool so if any of fellow disc golfers want to come over to the BW to BBQ & Beer they are welcome. We'll have some games (Kan Jam, & Flashflights) going too!

Over 500 discs will be at the event. Innova and Discraft......shirts, towels, hats, baskets......The higher the finish the better.

WOOOHOOOOO!

gametime baby....

Not much to say at this point.....

Discs are in, scorecards are being printed, GRASS WAS MOWED, C4 is starting to freak out, dubz start shortly....all is normal for 3rd coast

We have a couple of spots left...

I am gonna try and make it in the morning if there's any spots left

directions to course???

Man a lot of 3CDG shooters ratings have gone up... I haven't been following it lately, but Mando, Bruce, Albert, Joel, Abel, Jose (holy crap, 951!!!), Statue, Mike S. and I'm probably forgetting a few or not properly recognizing names. Seems like there has been a collective jump in 3CDG ratings/play lately. Well, except mine.

directions to course???
From Hwy 59; go north on Minnesota to a left just past the middle school into the park (there is a large park sign that you drive under). Pass the ball golf course, 1st tee near pavilion across from ball diamond.

thanks Jerry

anyone looking to share a room sat nite???

oh i see how you are Jamie. cant go to my event but can go to arkansas and beeville.. nice GOOD luck

offthis wknd, and put in for Little Rock a looonng time ago, tried last nite to get someone to cover my shift fot Solo, but didnt happen

1st round over. Will try to get scores up on twitter.com/3cdg/ soon.

Windy & South-Texas Hot second round, most of the scores I heard about went up a stroke or two even though I though the two alternates 2nd round were slightly easier than the two alternates during round 1. FUN! Looking forward to tomorrow.

taken from the very first post on this thread...

2010 South Texas Shootout in Beeville, Texas:

...
Entry Fees are as follows:

All PRO divisions: $65

All ADVANCE divisions: $55

All INTERMEDIATE divisions: $40

All RECREATIONAL divisions: $30

**Optional $5 Ace Pot not included**

THERE IS A NON-PDGA MEMBER FEE OF $10

...

we got charged $100. I'm intermediate men -- $40 plus $5 ace pot = $45
Joni is rec Women $30 non-member $10 ace pot $5 = 45

that should be $90

sorry just thought about this and wanted to see why i was confused about it. these prices are even listed on the 3rdcoastdiscgolf.com page.

not trying to cause problems.

Hopefully payout reflected the discrepancy.

We had an unplanned CTP for $1. I had no idea how to end it but David Chapa hit it and made it stick to win $79.

So what happened with the other CTPs mentioned above?

We had an unplanned CTP for $1. I had no idea how to end it but David Chapa hit it and made it stick to win $79.

So what happened with the other CTPs mentioned above?

that was a blast! should do that more often.

We had an unplanned CTP for $1. I had no idea how to end it but David Chapa hit it and made it stick to win $79.

So what happened with the other CTPs mentioned above?

I was supposed to bring one from SADC and totally spaced on it :mad:.

I'll make it up at Gonzo.

Hopefully payout reflected the discrepancy.

maybe i did the math wrong, but i'm showing int. men to be short $56-$88 (one player who dnf) and rec women short $16.

is there a breakdown of how payout is calculated or entry fees are divided (pdga fee/players' pack and such)?

maybe i did the math wrong, but i'm showing int. men to be short $56-$88 (one player who dnf) and rec women short $16.

is there a breakdown of how payout is calculated or entry fees are divided (pdga fee/players' pack and such)?

Here's a link to the tour standards:
http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/TourStandards.pdf

Basically take the entry fee less the ace pot ($40) and subtract the PDGA fee ($3), less the player's pack ($10) for a total of $27. Then multiply that by the number of poeple in the division (19) for a total of $513 is the minimum that can be paid out under the tour standards. They appear to have paid out $520 (per the website), so technically they overpaid or added $7 to the payout.

We has an interesting discussion about a ruling and weather a disc resting on the out side of the cage is considered in. See below, looks like the correct ruling was make.

http://www.pdga.com/files/u5379/Hole_Outs.jpg
All discs but the yellow one will complete the hole once the owner gets to the basket and removes it before it possibly falls down and out.

Enjoyed it much, thanks to everyone who had a hand in the tourney

Enjoyed it much, thanks to everyone who had a hand in the tourney

Nice shooting Jaime. Was rooting for you to slay Matt, but the youngster prevailed.

Scott, that is a cool picture and educational device.

Great times 3rd Coasters! Glad SADC was able to come down a represent (at least some of us where able to represent) and we'll be there in full effect for Gonzo for sure. Probably at least twice as many SADCer's will be down for Gonzo.

Also, good to meet some new people and to put some faces to MB names. El Jaffe, your hat is classic and I expect to see you wearing that on the course from now on!

Oh and how about Shannon's Ace? That was classic, not sure who looked happier, her or Bret!

James, we're gonna teach you how to read, you're as bad as Ware--it's J A M I E, I thought you had this down before, but apparently not. ;)

besides, I beat him last weekend, and he was a little upset over that. Didn't want to hurt his feelings two weekends in a row

huh I SPELL KORRECTLEE

Jamie, this is what happens when you get masters age. Spelling declines right before the game does. :)

you whipped his donkey last weekend? Nice

I never see those results. Non-PDGA and all.

Does anyone use Jaime, or is that the espanol version of James?

Mostly the females use it and it's the espanol version---and in Ware's case, didnt the game decline before the spelling?????????

go to the Double R everything else thread and there is a link there to scores from Ark

"and in Ware's case, didnt the game decline before the spelling"

watch it I still have your nuke!!!!!

I thought SteveO had it

he forgot it in my truck when we got it from Jeff...

We has an interesting discussion about a ruling and weather a disc resting on the out side of the cage is considered in. See below, looks like the correct ruling was make.

http://www.pdga.com/files/u5379/Hole_Outs.jpg
All discs but the yellow one will complete the hole once the owner gets to the basket and removes it before it possibly falls down and out.

Unless the yellow disc is leaning enough to tough the chains at which point you can argue it is being supported by the catching device

Unless the yellow disc is leaning enough to tough the chains at which point you can argue it is being supported by the catching device

Not according to the PDGA. This came right of their website from the rules tutorial.

Here's a link to the tour standards:
http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/TourStandards.pdf

Basically take the entry fee less the ace pot ($40) and subtract the PDGA fee ($3), less the player's pack ($10) for a total of $27. Then multiply that by the number of poeple in the division (19) for a total of $513 is the minimum that can be paid out under the tour standards. They appear to have paid out $520 (per the website), so technically they overpaid or added $7 to the payout.

your math is good, the entries were advertised 40 for intermediate. but they raised the price 5 bucks a player for int. and rec, that morning. i even saw the player check-in sheet and the entry was crossed out with 45 over it. so that makes the payout 32 per player, $608. which puts the $520 payout $88 below the requirements.

the same went for the rec men and women as well.

Not according to the PDGA. This came right of their website from the rules tutorial.

If the disc was supported in any way by rthe chain (meaning that if you moved the chain the disc would also move) it, in the past, had been able to skim by although I have never seen it happen.

A disc on the top (hanging or not) is different than one hanging and touching the chains/

"$88 below the requirements." HUH your kidding right?

"$88 below the requirements." HUH your kidding right?

my math could be wrong, which is why i was looking for some kind of breakdown. or maybe i just pay too much attention

I am confused on the fees all the way around. I thought I paid $40 plus $5 in Int. Jackie paid $60 plus $5 for $110. Which ever way you look at it we paid $5 extra some where over the advertised prices.

I am confused on the fees all the way around. I thought I paid $40 plus $5 in Int. Jackie paid $60 plus $5 for $110. Which ever way you look at it we paid $5 extra some where over the advertised prices.
Everyone ion your division paid the same as you. The wrong prices advertised for MA2 were my bad and my bad alone. You paid the TD correctly. It DOES reflect in payout. When we were asked by Jackie to give the $5 back we told her that it was already calculated in payout and the entry fee is correct. I apologize for any inconvenience that may have caused. We will ensure that the correct entry fees are advertised for the MA2 division next time.

my math could be wrong, which is why i was looking for some kind of breakdown. or maybe i just pay too much attention

I even took my shoes off to figure this out and INT men underpaid $88 exactly. Women advanced payout is $55 less $13 fees and players pack $42.


INT men should be $45 less $13 fees and players pack $32. 19 players $608. Y'all paid $520.

Tell me my math is wrong.

Everyone ion your division paid the same as you. The wrong prices advertised for MA2 were my bad and my bad alone. You paid the TD correctly. It DOES reflect in payout. When we were asked by Jackie to give the $5 back we told her that it was already calculated in payout and the entry fee is correct. I apologize for any inconvenience that may have caused. We will ensure that the correct entry fees are advertised for the MA2 division next time.

It DOES NOT reflect in the payout.

$608 vs. $520 In INT
$374 vs. $295 In REC
$66 vs. $50 In Rec Ladies.

So you are off by $180

This is why I limit my visits to this website, R U SERIOUS???

we work with everyone the way we do, hook people up, make the raffle phat, etc... and you guys are putting all this time and effort into what? If a mistake was made, Ken R. will correct it and make it right, GUARANTEED!!! It may be more appropriate to give him a call rather than make such a huge issue of it on this website , considering you are "Third Coast" and all...
Lance, Ish- if you are owed another half disc we will take care of you...

Thanks to everyone else this weekend! Had a great time, no major issues... No water on saturday- was made right on sunday. Lots of Water and Beer!

Learn to accept criticism, be accountable when you make a mistake and put on your big boy pants.

It wasn't personal.

Thanks to everyone else this weekend! Had a great time, no major issues... No water on saturday- was made right on sunday. Lots of Water and Beer!


And the Island hole's Drop Zone was painted as well..........not so much for hole 1.

And the Island hole's Drop Zone was painted as well..........not so much for hole 1.



Well, I must give you credit, you waited three days to bring it up. EVERYONE knew it was coming

I was wondering what the ruling on the island hole was if you hit the island and then rolled OB.

I was wondering what the ruling on the island hole was if you hit the island and then rolled OB.

Go to the DZ........if you miss from the DZ but crossed IB you take it from where you went out but if it never came IB you must throw from the DZ again.

Well, I must give you credit, you waited three days to bring it up. EVERYONE knew it was coming

That 4-4-6 finish will sting for a while but I have to bring it up when the two other DZs are marked and the only one that isn't also happened to be the least likely hole to place a DZ.

IMO the DZ on 1 made it too easy of a hole where you might as well go for it and at worst you will be able to layup for a 4. There would have been NO issue had someone marked the pole with paint or even just a FLAG

This is why I limit my visits to this website, R U SERIOUS???

we work with everyone the way we do, hook people up, make the raffle phat, etc... and you guys are putting all this time and effort into what? If a mistake was made, Ken R. will correct it and make it right, GUARANTEED!!! It may be more appropriate to give him a call rather than make such a huge issue of it on this website , considering you are "Third Coast" and all...
Lance, Ish- if you are owed another half disc we will take care of you...


i'm not owed anything. i didn't even make payout... I always had fun at 3rd coast events and will continue to. I do what i can to make as many 3c events as i can, and that won't stop. This is the ONLY time something didn't make sense to me. i'm just trying to observe and learn as much as possible. As lance said it was not personal. And yes... i had a blast as usual. I THANK YOU and I'm SORRY if this caused problems between us. You'll still have my support at your events.

You shouldn't feel the need to apologize Ish. The error was pointed out prior to payout twice. You can't help those that don't want your help.

You shouldn't feel the need to apologize Ish. The error was pointed out prior to payout twice. You can't help those that don't want your help.

my apology wasn't for pointing out a mistake. Those happen. It was for making them think it affected me all that much. I plan on eventually running my own events and am just trying to learn how things are done.

Hey all. I talked to Lance yesterday & he told me that my payout was wrong for Beeville. I checked & he was right. The payout was wrong for the Intermediate, Rec men, & Rec women divisions. The Advanced & Pro divsions were correct. Here is the breakdown:

Intermediate payout was: It should have been:
1st-$110 $130
2nd-$85 $100
3rd-$70 $80
4th-$55 $70
Tie for 5th-$45 each $50 each
7th-$35 $40
8th-$30 $35
Tie for 9th-$23 each $28 each

Rec men payout was: It should have been:
1st-$65 $85
2nd-$50 $65
3rd-$40 $55
4th-$35 $45
5th-$30 $35
6th-$25 $30
Tie for 7th-$18 each $23 each
9th-$15 $20

Rec women payout was: It should have been:
1st-$30 $40
2nd-$20 $25

This means I owe the following people the listed amounts:
Intermediate:
1st-Adam Metz: $20
2nd-Joel Santrock: $15
3rd-Andrew Wright: $10
4th-Lance Hankins: $15
T5th-Big Lou Torres: $5
T5th-Smokey Valdez: $5
7th-George Rivera: $5
8th-Mike Ketchum: $5
T9th-Travis Chittim: $5
T9th-Chris C4 Craig: $5

Rec Men:
1st-Sean Johnson: $20
2nd-Mike Burgess: $15
3rd-Chris Dudney: $15
4th-Robert Britt: $10
5th-James Grahmann: $5
6th-Tim Traut: $5
T7th-Fernando Perez: $5
T7th-Tyler Metz: $5
9th-Jerry Coleman: $5

Rec Women:
1st-Joni Smith: $10
2nd-Lesli Trahan: $5

I am sorry this was not caught at the tournament. I apologize for any inconvenience or problems or hard feelings this may have caused, but it was an honest mistake. It was not intentional. I have a few options for making this up to everyone.
1. Give credit toward your entry to the next 3rd Coast event you play in.
2. Give credit toward 3rd Coast merchandise.
3. Give a cash refund

I have already talked to a few people on the list & I appreciate those who have been so understanding. I will be trying to contact the rest of the people on the list, but I could use a little help. Some people I don't know how to reach, so if you know anyone on the list, please have them contact me through email at crzbuldog@yahoo.com or by phone at 361-945-0280. Once again, sorry for any inconvenience this has caused.

Ken "Statue" Ratliff

Ken,

Thanks. When Smoke, Jax and I messed up payout at the Last Cash tournament in Victoria Dec. '08, no one told us about it. I found the error and carried envelopes of money around for months fixing it. I wouldn't recommend that it was a pain. This should not be a stain on Third Coast's reputation but an indication of character. If we can help in any way we will.

Lance

props ken!! coming out and addressing, being eager to correct it, publicly, shows charachter and responsibility. you're awesome

If you think about it, there is only one stain in third coast...

Just to let everyone know, Lance brought this up to Ken on Tuesday nite and then started his ranting on here about it wedesday... WHAT? You never mentioned you had spoke with Ken in the midst of your bashing and ranting....

I am offended that you think our reputation is in question considering all the damage you have caused the club in the past 6 years!

That 4-4-6 finish will sting for a while but I have to bring it up when the two other DZs are marked and the only one that isn't also happened to be the least likely hole to place a DZ.

IMO the DZ on 1 made it too easy of a hole where you might as well go for it and at worst you will be able to layup for a 4. There would have been NO issue had someone marked the pole with paint or even just a FLAG
Matt- u are still going on about the drop zone on 1? Big red pole in the middle of the fairway is not your issue, its the fact that we didnt put a flag to the left or right of the pole? Thats my fault, I thought we were to throw from the right side when there is a teebox pole or drop zone...my bad...

Mike,

If you want to look at the time stamps on my posts you will see they are from Tuesday. I was responding to Mr. Cartwrights post that the payout was correct. You really need to learn how this internet thing works. It would be awesome if you found the character to admit when you are wrong. Not just throw out sarcastic garbage. Matt has every right to complain since he had already headed to hole two when the drop zone was announced by Chapa. Fact is it wasn't marked. If you can find a rule that says anything about throwing to the right of a post or mark I 'd love for you to point it out.

Peace
Lance

I wasnt the td, i didnt figure payout. I said if it was wrong Ken would make it right.
Not everyone sits at their computer 20 hours a day.
Regardless of your excuses, you didnt handle any of this properly. You always do this exact thing... you bring up errors and mistakes to cover up the real issues. You jump on every bandwagon that happens to go by you.

YOu are sad...

yah let dogs lie

You weren't the TD...So why do you even have anything to say at all? Ken is a stand up guy no doubt about it. I have told you time and again Mike you would be better off just ignoring me since you can't understand anything I say.

some interesting reading

http://www.pdga.com/faq/rules-questions-answers/mando-drop-zone-not-marked

Not one word about right or left. Focus is on responsibility. Boggles the mind.

some interesting reading

http://www.pdga.com/faq/rules-questions-answers/mando-drop-zone-not-marked

According to that you throw from near the Mando area and in that case I did what was necessary according to that write-up by taking my shot from behind where my disc "missed the mando or went OB". Also with missing a mando one assumes a DZ is in place although that was not the case with my going OB since nobody had a clue there was a DZ and the day before in dubs we played our shot from where it went OB on the same exact hole.

Even Birdshot marks their DZs.

you guys gotta stop with the "mando" talk. i keep thinking you guys are talking about me.

you guys gotta stop with the "mando" talk. i keep thinking you guys are talking about me.

Even this Mando was marked in a Red shirt!