Zott
Feb 08 2010, 12:31 AM
I had a discussion with Josh Anton about getting people outside disc golf to watch and thereby sponsor players and commit to advertising. He brought up an idea that needs to happen, bet more on your game... The bet is your registration, and if you want top players to play raise their bet, then the pot goes up, also more money will go in if we kill the pro players package until there is enough outside money to warrant the spending, I think the pro's would rather see the money goint the bottom line than a t shirt or whatever it is. I think Josh is right about both ideas and here is why. If you were an outsider looking at Disc Golf as a important sport where the players are putting serious money (eventually $500-1000) on their game you might want to come watch, right?

Im betting you will get more top pros playing the game and when you do, you will see companies looking at the sport more closely and wanting to throw their money into the pot, and we will see 100k tournaments and much more. So Im saying double the entry fee this year and get the Disc rolling. Let's make this sport a real sport where people are serious about their game, making Disc Golf more competitive and fun.

davidsauls
Feb 08 2010, 08:37 AM
If you were an outsider looking at Disc Golf as a important sport where the players are putting serious money (eventually $500-1000) on their game you might want to come watch, right?



If this were true, I'd be watching stock market investors.

I can't think of any sport I've ever watched that interested me because the players were gambling on themselves or investing their own money. A few are interesting because they're gambling their bodies, though.

If you tried this idea (other than the player's package part), the half the players who are unlikely to cash would drop out, reducing the payout.

The lower half of those remaining would then be unlikely to cash, and drop out.

And so on until you have a very small event.

Luke Butch
Feb 08 2010, 08:50 AM
tournaments would be the following people if they were held on the west coast: rico, josh, feldberg. Doss, jenkins, nikko, maybe champ or barry, maybe ullibari whose been playing hot, a couple random tour pros who have been doing well(say mcbeth or cale), and maybe a top local pro taking a shot.

oh and a few random well off players who want the chance to play with the top guys, and who don't mind paying $500 to do so. This is whose money they'd be playing for(in reality)

Karl
Feb 08 2010, 08:57 AM
Beside what David said, I'll add that Josh's (and your) thoughts may be centered around the "Texas Hold'em" phenomenom...where:
1. Initially, it was pay in a little and winner-take-all,
2. and then developed into a pay-in a lot, etc.
The BIG difference (between dg and poker) is that there is a chance that ANY smuck who gets lucky enough cards (and is a "decent" player) can do REALLY well - as has been born out in who has actually won some of the recent titles - guys who are totally no-names and never win again. This is NOT the case in dg - where "luck" has WAY less to do with it than it does in poker.

Karl

tanner
Feb 08 2010, 03:00 PM
i don't think that's the right idea. The hard part is creating a product with disc golf so it's understood and digestible to the general public.

Take the UFC for example...it took them $44 million and more than a few years to get off the ground, but now they have a fine tuned product that people "get".

Another point would be look at the PGA, their entry fees are tiny compared to payouts. Again, they have produced a product that TV can air and the general public understands.

cefire
Feb 13 2010, 01:00 AM
Ha, good luck with that idea. You should be the first to pony up $1000 to take on Climo.

I agree with Tanner's points about dg as a "product".

bruce_brakel
Feb 14 2010, 04:38 PM
I had a discussion with Josh Anton about getting people outside disc golf to watch and thereby sponsor players and commit to advertising. He brought up an idea that needs to happen, bet more on your game... The bet is your registration, and if you want top players to play raise their bet, then the pot goes up, also more money will go in if we kill the pro players package until there is enough outside money to warrant the spending, I think the pro's would rather see the money goint the bottom line than a t shirt or whatever it is. I think Josh is right about both ideas and here is why. If you were an outsider looking at Disc Golf as a important sport where the players are putting serious money (eventually $500-1000) on their game you might want to come watch, right?

Im betting you will get more top pros playing the game and when you do, you will see companies looking at the sport more closely and wanting to throw their money into the pot, and we will see 100k tournaments and much more. So Im saying double the entry fee this year and get the Disc rolling. Let's make this sport a real sport where people are serious about their game, making Disc Golf more competitive and fun.Two cameras could cover all the players -- both foursomes.

Poker on TV is paid for by the casinos that sponsor the tournaments. Not too many casinos have disc golf courses.

Anyone who thinks this is what the top players want should step up and run it. But not in Arizona or Louisianna.

MICHAELMART
Feb 14 2010, 08:06 PM
Sponsors pay your PGA players entry fees thus giving them air time by golfers using their products all in return meaning that there really isn't entry fees, just sponsorships to the tournament and the payout all comes from that...That's how this is all unlike disc golf. This big pro's don't use any of their pocket change to make a living. This will never work unless DG gets MUCH MUCH bigger and channels like ESPN take a liking. Also and a final note, DG must clean itself up a million times more before it will ever make $$ like others. Tell me the last time you saw a PGA tour player with his shirt off, drinking a bud light wrapped in a towel and smoking an unknown substance...This is all IMO so like it or not, somebody out there feels this way...

johnbiscoe
Feb 14 2010, 08:40 PM
Tell me the last time you saw a PGA tour player with his shirt off, drinking a bud light wrapped in a towel and smoking an unknown substance...This is all IMO so like it or not, somebody out there feels this way...

when's the last time you saw someone playing dg that way at a national tour event?

my_hero
Feb 15 2010, 08:32 PM
Tell me the last time you saw a PGA tour player with his shirt off, drinking a bud light wrapped in a towel and smoking an unknown substance...

I've been watching John Daly play since ~1987.;)

Luke Butch
Feb 15 2010, 08:51 PM
Poker on TV is paid for by the casinos that sponsor the tournaments.

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nope

pterodactyl
Feb 17 2010, 02:05 PM
...I'd imagine there would be some major rules calls being made like never before.

Just don't see it as the future of disc golf (high stakes or rules calls).