gokayaksteven
Dec 21 2009, 10:34 PM
i throw dx and star teebirds, and consistently throw them 380, more if i crank on them. how do the striker, stalker, and power driver compare? is the stalker available in any other plastic than Z

thx

Furthur
Dec 22 2009, 01:17 PM
The stalker is like a long buzz. Meaning that if you throw if flat, it's going to fly straight. It doesn't have a lot of fade at the end of it's flight. It's only available in Star, but there are some Z that are floating out there, as well as some Glow, which are supposed to be more LS overstable (so it's got some fade).

The PD is a disc that's been in my bag for about a year now. People often throw out the term "longer teebird" about a lot of discs, but for the PD, it's true. Very HS stable with LS stability somewhere between a Teebird and Firebird. It's in the 9-10 speed range with good glide. The pro beat into be great hyzer flip discs with very little finishing fade. In Star it's like an ESP Pred; very straight with a slow, deliberate fade. I feel it's easier to turn over a Pro than a dx teebird.

I have not throw the Striker but a handful of times, but I believe it's got a little less HSS and LSS. It's more akin to the OLF than the PD.

ibgollie
Dec 22 2009, 02:53 PM
Champ 11x TeeBird vs. Gold Line Striker

I just did this test yesterday. In various wind conditions (into, with, cross) they flew almost exactly the same. The striker was consistently slightly longer, but I think it's probably likely to the wider wing which I can grip more comfortably and can snap the disc harder more consistently. My teebird was slightly less HSS, but once the gold plastic breaks in I think these two will fly very similar.

Just for reference I threw the TeeBird a max of about 375 and the striker about 390.

I briefly used a Z stalker instead of my teebird for a while as well. I ended up putting the teebird back in my bag b/c the stalker didn't have as much D or glide as the teebird. I liked the stalker, but it just doesn't fly far enough for me. Especially in low ceiling circumstances.

msbatka
Dec 25 2009, 03:45 PM
The stalker is like a long buzz. Meaning that if you throw if flat, it's going to fly straight. It doesn't have a lot of fade at the end of it's flight. It's only available in Star, but there are some Z that are floating out there, as well as some Glow, which are supposed to be more LS overstable (so it's got some fade).

The PD is a disc that's been in my bag for about a year now. People often throw out the term "longer teebird" about a lot of discs, but for the PD, it's true. Very HS stable with LS stability somewhere between a Teebird and Firebird. It's in the 9-10 speed range with good glide. The pro beat into be great hyzer flip discs with very little finishing fade. In Star it's like an ESP Pred; very straight with a slow, deliberate fade. I feel it's easier to turn over a Pro than a dx teebird.

I have not throw the Striker but a handful of times, but I believe it's got a little less HSS and LSS. It's more akin to the OLF than the PD.

Correction...The Stalker is readily available in Elite Z and Elite Z Glo plastics. I have seen it in ESP plastic, but only in the form of PDGA custom stamped that new members receive (similar to the ESP Stratus).


Mike

20460chase
Dec 26 2009, 01:48 PM
For me:

Striker= Avenger

Stalker= Less predictable Leopard

PD= Beefy Valk or Orion LF